The first church I attended as an adult was Hilliard’s church. Needless to say, I didn’t stay long. I’m thankful I didn’t. When he was asking for money for a jet or ✈️ plane, I was out. I was like 21. Thank God I know better today.
I remember the sad day when I discovered our minister of music was in an adulterous relationship with his wife’s friend. He doubled down and refused to take counsel from my Bishop. I foolishly thought they would repent but no the adulterous couple married and it caused so much pain. I am thankful the church did not ignore the sin and it’s effects. The man wanted to lead the choir during a funeral but he was told it would not happen.. I love the man like my brother but the fact that he refused to publicly repent has affected his ministry. The Bible says pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall, sadly many pastors demonstrate a level of arrogance that should never be.
That's what I said about Tdjakes! He's back out there on these videos like nothing happened. He has not repented or asked God for forgiveness. He thinks he's above reproach!🛐👺🔥
Doc, you telling the truth! Never liked either of them. Very arrogant and materialistic. I can't sit under leadership like this. They were running a church, but hadn't spoken to their daughter in 24 years. Neither of them can tell me anything. Thanks for your transparency.💕
@@AB_1211 She got on my nerves the most because of her speech. I always felt as if she needed elocution lessons. It was hard for me to listen to her, but I felt he pushed her out there a d didn't care of she was prepared or not.
You can’t lead people if your house is not in order. I truly believe that. Your family comes before the church. Bishop Hilliard did a webinar on forgiveness about a month ago. I said to myself how can he talk about forgiveness if you don’t forgive your own child. I read that book. I know you are right. I could feel she was telling the truth. My prayer is that God expose all that is hidden so that true healing and reconciliation can happen.
Some pastors are very arrogant after their indiscretions. They say all they have to do is ask God for forgiveness and then they move on and the people are left confused, angry, and not satisfied.
My founding Pastor now Bishop had an affair with a church ( female) leader in 1998. He/Church has NEVER recovered. He retired 6 yrs ago with the selection of his replacement. We had about 4000 members @ the time of his sin. Today, the number is about 1000. When Leadership sins the body suffers. I know this well.
@@JoyceESample My college pastor in Chicago married his mistress. That church would be so full on Sunday nights, literally thousands of people would come thru there. That decision ended up ruining his legacy, and by the end of his life, you could drive 2 semi trucks in there. That's how empty it was. I don't know why these men don't learn from the m mistakes of others and take heed.
@@charchar7897~ b/c they [we] seem to ignore the SPIRITUAL Fact that we are No match for the wiles of satan and he is laser sharp. He knows Exactly what our weaknesses are and crafts it just right b/4 presenting it to us. Without guardrails in place, or, disregarding them, we fall right into his trap. Happens every time (along with Pride, his calling card to keep you/us frozen in it)... The war is real and that alligator is laying low... waiting to see who’s gonna jump....
@@charchar7897Wow. I know about this situation and what an amazingly gifted and anointed pastor. The devil and flesh will mess up anything. We definitely have to have a relationship with God for ourselves.
Excellent Sir Walter sharing your family issues that were solved, to show that we’re all subject to the same Sins,🙏🏾that all men called by God to pastor his sheep would humble themselves by putting God first and stop deeming themselves to be untouchable.
Very few churches/ Pastors have made the space for anyone to be vulnerable. We are in a time where trust/love is in short supply, in the church. ⛪️ Its very hard to watch.
Jesus said “ Upon the rock 🪨 of who He is, He would build His Church”! (Matthew 16:18). God is still God, and He’s dealing with His people. All is still going to be well.
I LOVE watching SWJ. I often pray that the words I speak would be seasoned with love even when I have to say hard things. SWJ is my unofficial mentor on how to do this. ❤
I loved this, which was very helpful to me. Thank you so much . The SPIRIT of GOD is truly with you. May God continue to bless you. Family is so important!!
We have to keep the church in prayer because the church does have God fearing, people loving, doing a good work pastors. It is horrible when these type of pastors overshadows the good ones. People have to realize these pastors and leaders are human and is capable of error. This is where God grace is sufficient. It is time out arrogance, self-centerness and self-serving, we have to get it right.
He literally said, his private life has nothing to do with the church and the vision of the church. I didn’t know what’s was going in and still don’t, but what I do know is, every believers private life should be their personal ministry, their witness. How in the world can you compartmentalize your life apart from your mantle as a shepherd? That ain’t even scripture. I knew then there was a bigger issue.
Non of us are humanly qualified to lead God’s flock. However, it’s all done by grace. We must learn to have faith in God’s grace. Thanks for sharing brother. I have a couple of accountability partners around the church that’s very helpful.
That is one powerful, powerful title going to church to catch hell because there’s so many people going through that today. Bishop had the audacity to say that he loves his wife Bishop love don’t hurt Katt Williams was right, this is the year of exposure in the churches with leadership in politics and in the world music industry. COME LORD JESUS COME🙌🏽🙌🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Prayer will heal all things and common sense and professional help also is needed. I’m not familiar with this family and as a therapist I’ll reserve any personal and professional dogma until I learn more and or read the book.
So sad. Pastor Jones did you see the video she made about her parents and what’s going on. I saw it on one of my other pastor friend page, and it is very heartbreaking to hear. Many prayers for their families 🙏🏽❤️
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I went to one annual conference at their church I personally saw people line up giving checks for 100,000 dollars Pictures of them in the sanctuary look like king and queen of the world I just couldn’t believe my eyes He’s arrogant and she has been very mean They need prayer 🙏🏼
I’m a former member of the church. He can’t be removed because he created a structure where there are no checks and balances. No deacons, no elders, no trustees. All the power rests with the three Hilliards: I.V, Bridgette, and Irishea. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@@lorettajeanmasterpiece6446It’s actually a corporation with the three Hilliards as the board members. It’s called a church but it operates like a tightly-held family business, as described in their daughter’s book. The way they have treated her is unscriptural, ungodly, and nothing like Christ.
I don't usually listen to your podcast. But this morning, 23:10 I was drawn to it. I would like to commend you on such a tasteful and tacticful podcast. But most of all you made the parties involved more human to us. And then you brought in around to us so we could learn some valuable points for our lives. And even in your own transparency I found so much value in it. Thank you.
This is my first time hearing your broadcast. Without going into detail, I will just say "thank you and amen," especially to things you have said regarding scripture and our pastors. Needless to say, I've now subscribed. Respectfully...
GOD told me it's reaping time! I have been seeing it, saved and unsaved! Galatians 6:7-8. Also 9 for the fire baptized saints walking in holiness. Repenting, loving GOD, worshipping GOD, and living for GOD!🙏🏾
We shepherds and sheep need to understand and walk in the FEAR of the Lord.No one who is anointed is exempt from this FEAR, REVERENCE.God is no respector of person.
Her book is a great read. It's sad. What we fail to realize is that some are not who we think they are. Those who know them well, are those the live with them every day. I recommend this book to those who want to see who things work behind the scenes of some ministries. I do look forward to your discussion on spiritual parents/ sons and daughters.
Excellent word Brother Walter Jones thank you, I wish I could get my siblings to heal and my family this way and let the past go. Unfortunately it may never happen in my situation and I have made peace with it all, given it over to God and God said to my spirit let it go and he has it in his will now. I just wrote 4 books, and all of them are about family, marriage, children brokenness, Overcoming etc. They will be out my books by December this year. I know where this young lady is coming from the pain is real, betrayal and abandonment is real. 😢
IV Hillard turned the church over to his daughter years ago. But he needs to leave the pulpit to whom he put in its place so that he can take this time to heal his family. And I pray he does exactly that. ❤🙏🏼
It was about 10 or 11 years ago, my cousin played high school ball and I went to one of his games and I sat in the bleachers about 4 rows up from I V & Bridget, and throughout the whole 4 quarters of that game they never interacted with each other. I mean nothing. No sharing popcorn, or nachos. I'm talking about nothing. No looking at each other. My wife and I attend events all the time and we look at each other, we touch, smile, giggle, high 5, cheering the players on, holding hands, whispering in one another's ear. We interact. You know normal things that couples do in a relationship, but they sat there, lifeless, just staring straight forward on the field. And a good friend of mine attend their church. I asked him what's up with his pastor and wife. I told him what I witnessed at the game. He just shrubbed his shoulder and said I don't know but I thought that was very weird back then, and now it's being manifested.
With that been said, he haven’t been qualify to ministry because his daughter was estrange from the family ministry because she disagreed with things they were doing, therefore She was fired from the minister team some 20 years ago.
I didn't think he was pastoring anymore his daughter is the lead head pastor of the church now and honestly they have been living in Florida for the past 2 years
We just need to pray for them , we don’t need to know what going on with them or judge them that God job let just pray no matter what is going on on , just pray
I think this is between this family and there Church let God Handle this He can handle way better than I can so let do what the word of God say do pray that we don't fall in thus say trap.God see!!!!
The first church I attended as an adult was Hilliard’s church. Needless to say, I didn’t stay long. I’m thankful I didn’t. When he was asking for money for a jet or ✈️ plane, I was out. I was like 21. Thank God I know better today.
Very informative. Thank you.
I remember the sad day when I discovered our minister of music was in an adulterous relationship with his wife’s friend. He doubled down and refused to take counsel from my Bishop. I foolishly thought they would repent but no the adulterous couple married and it caused so much pain. I am thankful the church did not ignore the sin and it’s effects. The man wanted to lead the choir during a funeral but he was told it would not happen.. I love the man like my brother but the fact that he refused to publicly repent has affected his ministry. The Bible says pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall, sadly many pastors demonstrate a level of arrogance that should never be.
Many of these pastors wont repent publicly because of pride and the fear of the cash flow stopping after decades of raking it in.
That's what I said about Tdjakes! He's back out there on these videos like nothing happened. He has not repented or asked God for forgiveness. He thinks he's above reproach!🛐👺🔥
@@senorahemphill7414 And so many are still supporting him. Smh
Doc, you telling the truth! Never liked either of them. Very arrogant and materialistic. I can't sit under leadership like this. They were running a church, but hadn't spoken to their daughter in 24 years. Neither of them can tell me anything. Thanks for your transparency.💕
💯💯💯Same thing I said. >>>They were running a church, but hadn't spoken to their daughter in 24 years. Neither of them can tell me anything."
@@AB_1211 She got on my nerves the most because of her speech. I always felt as if she needed elocution lessons. It was hard for me to listen to her, but I felt he pushed her out there a d didn't care of she was prepared or not.
It's two sides to a Story and it's nobody business, too much at state just foolery
@charchar7897 I said the same thing. I would ask people what's wrong with her voice.
You can’t lead people if your house is not in order. I truly believe that. Your family comes before the church. Bishop Hilliard did a webinar on forgiveness about a month ago. I said to myself how can he talk about forgiveness if you don’t forgive your own child. I read that book. I know you are right. I could feel she was telling the truth. My prayer is that God expose all that is hidden so that true healing and reconciliation can happen.
KING DAVID DID
@@mosestyson2705 I WAS about say the same thing! SO DID Moses so did Abraham and others.
Some pastors are very arrogant after their indiscretions. They say all they have to do is ask God for forgiveness and then they move on and the people are left confused, angry, and not satisfied.
But people keep following them. That's the problem.
My founding Pastor now Bishop had an affair with a church ( female) leader in 1998. He/Church has NEVER recovered. He retired 6 yrs ago with the selection of his replacement. We had about 4000 members @ the time of his sin. Today, the number is about 1000. When Leadership sins the body suffers. I know this well.
@@JoyceESample My college pastor in Chicago married his mistress. That church would be so full on Sunday nights, literally thousands of people would come thru there. That decision ended up ruining his legacy, and by the end of his life, you could drive 2 semi trucks in there. That's how empty it was. I don't know why these men don't learn from the m mistakes of others and take heed.
@@charchar7897They don't care
@@charchar7897~ b/c they [we] seem to ignore the SPIRITUAL Fact that we are No match for the wiles of satan and he is laser sharp. He knows Exactly what our weaknesses are and crafts it just right b/4 presenting it to us. Without guardrails in place, or, disregarding them, we fall right into his trap. Happens every time (along with Pride, his calling card to keep you/us frozen in it)... The war is real and that alligator is laying low... waiting to see who’s gonna jump....
@@charchar7897Wow. I know about this situation and what an amazingly gifted and anointed pastor. The devil and flesh will mess up anything. We definitely have to have a relationship with God for ourselves.
@@charchar7897most of the time pride comes into play
Excellent Sir Walter sharing your family issues that were solved, to show that we’re all subject to the same Sins,🙏🏾that all men called by God to pastor his sheep would humble themselves by putting God first and stop deeming themselves to be untouchable.
Great Unplugged Series, Elder! So many leaders in the church, need to come and sit on the couch. Blessings to you and your family. God night 👍🏾😍🙋🏾♀️
Very few churches/ Pastors have made the space for anyone to be vulnerable. We are in a time where trust/love is in short supply, in the church. ⛪️ Its very hard to watch.
Whoo 😳 these preachers are falling left and right
Jesus said “ Upon the rock 🪨 of who He is, He would build His Church”! (Matthew 16:18). God is still God, and He’s dealing with His people. All is still going to be well.
Judgement must FIRST begin at the house of God. The remnant must pray, fast, rule & reign. Gen.1:28
Never heard of him/them. I pray they get it all figured out.
@@nashfordtx Hello, the Hilliard’s has a huge TV ministry years ago highlighted prosperity. Included Conferences, books/tapes etc.
THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANSDO PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER BLESS YOU
Thank you, for your truth❤
I LOVE watching SWJ. I often pray that the words I speak would be seasoned with love even when I have to say hard things. SWJ is my unofficial mentor on how to do this. ❤
We may agree or disagree with Elder Jones but please be respectful in your comments. Respect him the way you want to be respected.
Communication so important in the times we are living. Thank you for your emphasis on this matter. 🙏
I loved this, which was very helpful to me. Thank you so much . The SPIRIT of GOD is truly with you. May God continue to bless you. Family is so important!!
We have to keep the church in prayer because the church does have God fearing, people loving, doing a good work pastors. It is horrible when these type of pastors overshadows the good ones. People have to realize these pastors and leaders are human and is capable of error. This is where God grace is sufficient. It is time out arrogance, self-centerness and self-serving, we have to get it right.
Thanks for unraveling all this. So true!
Brother Jones this is Family Secrets Part II. Deep brother. Loved this. This is teaching. This is how we heal. Stop the lies!!! Lies destroy everyone.
He literally said, his private life has nothing to do with the church and the vision of the church. I didn’t know what’s was going in and still don’t, but what I do know is, every believers private life should be their personal ministry, their witness. How in the world can you compartmentalize your life apart from your mantle as a shepherd? That ain’t even scripture. I knew then there was a bigger issue.
Thank you for the beautiful testimony after your mother’s lump discovery. Thank you.
Non of us are humanly qualified to lead God’s flock. However, it’s all done by grace. We must learn to have faith in God’s grace. Thanks for sharing brother. I have a couple of accountability partners around the church that’s very helpful.
That is one powerful, powerful title going to church to catch hell because there’s so many people going through that today. Bishop had the audacity to say that he loves his wife Bishop love don’t hurt Katt Williams was right, this is the year of exposure in the churches with leadership in politics and in the world music industry. COME LORD JESUS COME🙌🏽🙌🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Prayer will heal all things and common sense and professional help also is needed. I’m not familiar with this family and as a therapist I’ll reserve any personal and professional dogma until I learn more and or read the book.
Omgoodness! Good show Sir! You were talking good!! Yes, catch them before they mess up er'thing and embody! SMH
Thank you Sir for sharing… ❤️
So sad. Pastor Jones did you see the video she made about her parents and what’s going on. I saw it on one of my other pastor friend page, and it is very heartbreaking to hear. Many prayers for their families 🙏🏽❤️
Great show as always Mr SWJ and Bunker Family. Good night ❤❤❤❤❤
Hello Dear, here watching and supporting, thanks for posting this content, here to encourage you to keep going, keep pushing forward, thumbs up and blessing to you
I went to one annual conference at their church
I personally saw people line up giving checks for 100,000 dollars
Pictures of them in the sanctuary look like king and queen of the world
I just couldn’t believe my eyes
He’s arrogant and she has been very mean
They need prayer 🙏🏼
He does not qualify according to scripture not at all, he should be removed as the leader period.
I’m a former member of the church. He can’t be removed because he created a structure where there are no checks and balances. No deacons, no elders, no trustees. All the power rests with the three Hilliards: I.V, Bridgette, and Irishea. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@@gwenrichardson9394 Wow, how is it even a church then?.
@@lorettajeanmasterpiece6446It’s actually a corporation with the three Hilliards as the board members. It’s called a church but it operates like a tightly-held family business, as described in their daughter’s book. The way they have treated her is unscriptural, ungodly, and nothing like Christ.
I started reading the book , it’s so heartbreaking.
I read it too. You are so correct.
I don't usually listen to your podcast. But this morning, 23:10 I was drawn to it. I would like to commend you on such a tasteful and tacticful podcast. But most of all you made the parties involved more human to us. And then you brought in around to us so we could learn some valuable points for our lives. And even in your own transparency I found so much value in it. Thank you.
I also agree we need to Talk to our Pastors now! Praying that they listen to some Wise advice! Thank you Sir Walter Jones for Wisdom!
Hey pastor how are you doing I am well watching live we love you water is fine smile great advice wisdom thanks for sharing blessings 🙏❤️
The body of Christ is hurting. Thank for The SWJ Unplugged. Awesome word. Praying for the body of Christ.
Amen
Lord, help us to want You!
This is sooooo needed thk U
This is my first time hearing your broadcast. Without going into detail, I will just say "thank you and amen," especially to things you have said regarding scripture and our pastors. Needless to say, I've now subscribed. Respectfully...
I love this Sir Walter!!! Thank you
This is so true. Thank you so much for sharing this information and message with the body of Christ.
Founding Pastor?????? The body of Christ was never lost. The Church belongs to Jesus. Not Man🙌🏾
This was good commentary. Part three please.
GOD told me it's reaping time! I have been seeing it, saved and unsaved!
Galatians 6:7-8. Also 9 for the fire baptized saints walking in holiness. Repenting, loving GOD, worshipping GOD, and living for GOD!🙏🏾
Such wisdom spoken here
Must be an underwood or royal typewriter. I used to love that sound of the keys.
We shepherds and sheep need to understand and walk in the FEAR of the Lord.No one who is anointed is exempt from this FEAR, REVERENCE.God is no respector of person.
Thanks for telling the truth about this
Her book is a great read. It's sad. What we fail to realize is that some are not who we think they are. Those who know them well, are those the live with them every day. I recommend this book to those who want to see who things work behind the scenes of some ministries. I do look forward to your discussion on spiritual parents/ sons and daughters.
I read the book. You are 💯. It’s a good read but a hard one.
@@alig9540 Yes.
Praying for all these GOSSIPING MEN IN THEIR LIVING ROOM 911
Excellent word Brother Walter Jones thank you, I wish I could get my siblings to heal and my family this way and let the past go. Unfortunately it may never happen in my situation and I have made peace with it all, given it over to God and God said to my spirit let it go and he has it in his will now. I just wrote 4 books, and all of them are about family, marriage, children brokenness, Overcoming etc. They will be out my books by December this year. I know where this young lady is coming from the pain is real, betrayal and abandonment is real. 😢
IV Hillard turned the church over to his daughter years ago. But he needs to leave the pulpit to whom he put in its place so that he can take this time to heal his family. And I pray he does exactly that. ❤🙏🏼
We don’t expect the man to be perfect. But we expect the man to be HOLY. What church is living by the Bible
It was about 10 or 11 years ago, my cousin played high school ball and I went to one of his games and I sat in the bleachers about 4 rows up from I V & Bridget, and throughout the whole 4 quarters of that game they never interacted with each other.
I mean nothing.
No sharing popcorn, or nachos.
I'm talking about nothing.
No looking at each other.
My wife and I attend events all the time and we look at each other, we touch, smile, giggle, high 5, cheering the players on, holding hands, whispering in one another's ear.
We interact.
You know normal things that couples do in a relationship, but they sat there, lifeless, just staring straight forward on the field.
And a good friend of mine attend their church.
I asked him what's up with his pastor and wife.
I told him what I witnessed at the game.
He just shrubbed his shoulder and said I don't know but I thought that was very weird back then, and now it's being manifested.
Great lesson 🙏
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Can you place the Bible verses in your description please.
Wonderful down to earth issues 😢😂❤
With that been said, he haven’t been qualify to ministry because his daughter was estrange from the family ministry because she disagreed with things they were doing, therefore She was fired from the minister team some 20 years ago.
Good evening, I have my ears on. Unplugged SWJ
He was NEVER qualified... "a Bishop then MUST be blamless, the husband of ONE wife". Bridget is I.V's SECOND wife.
Amen
thank you so much very wise, sayings,
Thank you
I was there when it happened I was there when they excommunicated her out of the family and the church. It was a sad day for us because we knew her😢
Hello Chicago Illinois
Sir Walter Jones a wholeheartedly agree
Good evening
And yet there is only one side of the story…the daughter! We don’t know the back story of that relationship.
I enjoyed watching this video. It was very informative. Thank you. 😊
God is well pleased with you Elder. This live was monumental! Believe me read my text(lol) I will not miss another! God bless you sir!
Correct according to scriptures
Nothing to do with me! Pray for them!!!
This was a very great show sir
I meant Thank God for The SWJ Unplugged. God bless and continue to keep you.
Thank you for good information.
The messy church house.💀💀
Thank you so much for sharing your story. Your Mother continue Responding in Peace. God bless you Mr SWJ.
I came from a church and first family that mirrors her book and many ways, bit he's a bishop in cogic so he's protected.
They should have restored their relationship with the daughter. Unforgiveness will stop progress. By now, she probably matured.
Amen and amen 🙏🏽 🙌🏽 👏🏽 ❤️
I didn't think he was pastoring anymore his daughter is the lead head pastor of the church now and honestly they have been living in Florida for the past 2 years
They never relinquished the power. Their daughter is merely a figurehead.
Good evening everyone's. Mr SWJ and Bunker Family
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When they fall they fall hard!!
His and hers Roll Royce in a poor neighborhood..No..
How does this apply to women deaconesses in the church??
I can't find anything that prohibits deaconness' functioning in the Bible. Therefore ,it probably would fall into the ministry of helps.
It’s happening
I would like to know what interpretation is this? I like it
My God…
We just need to pray for them , we don’t need to know what going on with them or judge them that God job let just pray no matter what is going on on , just pray
If you don't want us to know what's going on with you or your family, don't bring it to social media. Once you do that, people can say what they want.
Amen
Alright tell tg truth 👏🏾 😢😮
Cause Pastors, the Church is the Bride of Christ. Deuteronomy 4: 24.
I think this is between this family and there Church let God Handle this He can handle way better than I can so let do what the word of God say do pray that we don't fall in thus say trap.God see!!!!
People should not put the pastor high as that only God!!
Hidden figures... Nice one.
Man, get to the point
Go watch B.E.T. and you’ll be more entertained… or maybe buy the ENQUIRER
😂😂😂😂😂
Im not sure if he is unfaithful but you can tell he unbearable. I only listened to him a couple of times and he’s very self absorbed.
Her book was very good