Sage Mode I always have a fondness for this form because that was when I found Naruto Shippuden at its peak. A power-up that made sense in supplementing Naruto's capabilities(also smartly utilizing Shadow clone development) and also very much fitting Naruto thematically as gaining more insight about the world/ being entrusted by Jiraiya's will. Also, I'm not going to lie; that red jacket was always badass and wished that Naruto could have had a variant of that as an adult.
It showed how much Naruto had become Jiraya 's perfect pupil unlike Pain,I really wish he kept the cape too, apparently kishimoto got tired of drawing it so it disappeared,at least kcm 2 brought it back somewhat temporarily.
Yeah the cape was pretty awesome & his hokage cape should've kept the same look honestly. I really don't know why they decided to shorten it & make it look like that. Not that it looks bad. It's just that the minato & sage mode capes look awesome. Oh and actually i have no idea why they decided to switch the flames at the end of his hokage cape with triangles. Along with his short hair, it just feels like they want to make him look his worst in boruto. Anyways cheers from Egypt.
sage mode was definitely a peak for Naruto Shippuden, it enhanced his abilities and added depth to his character. and yeah, that red jacket was undeniably badass. it would've been cool to see Naruto with a variant of it as an adult.
I always thought Naruto wasn't literally fighting the Nine-Tails. The "fight" was taking place in his mind, and was just a visual representation of a mental struggle.
He was?, Naruto's mind scape isn't explained well but basically something that happens in his mind is also physical,like when Sasuke went into his mind to suppress the kurama chakra in the tenchi bridge arc.
I more so see Naruto talking to karuma when we see them on the water similar to when sasuke enters Naruto’s mind to see the nine tails. Another good example probably most iconic is when Naruto pushes those massive gates open to free karuma and work alongside him.
I think naruto absorbing his "hatred side" was one of the biggest power amps in the series. He became a much more mature ninja and understood better his capacities and limits through this fight. He became more efficient
Sage mode Naruto is the “peak” Naruto in my opinion... It barely change appearance-wise, but you can see the sage mode actually develops Naruto’s mind as well. I find post-sage Naruto started being more mature and not as reckless and stupid as before...
yeah, Naruto gained experience from his fight against Pain, trained in between, and received help from Kushina and Bee. All those factors contributed to his growth and improved performance.
There is a simple answer to the speculation. Naruto was sitting and absorbing nature energy so he had unlimited sage energy when battling the nine tail. Meanwhile against pain he had a limited amount of sage energy
@@Danger-Zone848 Kurama's chakra saved Naruto when he was fighting Pain, but when Naruto fought Kurama, his chakra almost corrupted Naruto's but Kushina intervened
I feel like people overrate Naruto’s performance against the nine tails just because until then we’ve never seen anybody step up to the nine tails like that. He didn’t actually do any lasting damage, needed Bee to save him from a TBB that would’ve cooked him, in a fight in the real world he would’ve gotten washed AND he can enter Sage mode while moving because his physical body is still, that’s a lot of advantages and that he wouldn’t have Irl. Sage mode is also my favorite transformation of Naruto’s, too bad it got power cliffed
If Naruto didn't spam the rasengan barrage there he would have been squished bad,an example of rasengan spamming working in his favor,imagine if Naruto somehow could use summons in his mind scape?
Naruto vs pain. Ichigo vs Byakuya/aizen/juha and Luffy vs kaido. Many times the anime community just forget how the fight went. If not for a last minute save from something else they would have died after that fight. Heck same with Goku vs Vegeta. Vegeta wrecked Goku and if not for so much help from everyone left they would have lost. Those are the best reverse power creep moments where the enemy is just that powerful
Two things, imagine how much Chakra Naruto is usually using to hold back the nine tails. When we're inside his astral projection, we get to see him use the entirety of his Chakra pool, not just his extra. Six tails in the Pain fight is probably as strong as it is because Naruto is willingly assisting it to a degree. In every other instance, he's fighting against it but losing. Thirdly, I bet getting the extra seal from his Dad, probably made Naruto's use of Chakra much more efficient because he didn't have to use as much to hold back the nine tails.
Except when Naruto hurt Sakura as four tails,so he definitely wasn't holding back then during the orochimaru fight,with the pain fight he was only focused on Pain.
that's an interesting perspective, Naruto's astral projection allows him to tap into his entire chakra pool, giving him access to more power. And you're right, when Naruto willingly assists the Six Tails, it becomes stronger. Getting the extra seal from his dad likely made Naruto's chakra usage more efficient, reducing the amount needed to control the Nine-Tails.
Its a dream sequence notice he can instantly enter sage mode (something he couldn't do in the real world at the time). Everyone overlooks that it was in his mind hell even the 8 tails was nerfed because he was a 3rd party invading another mental space Naruto is stronger because its his own mind and its more their wills battling than their actual power
Naruto's mind scape could be both physical and mental, it's not really explained how his mind scape thing works so I don't really know, this mind scape ability/world seems to only be for Jinchuriki since he was able to conversate with the other tailed beasts while imprisoned by obito and switch on and off between himself and Kurama to talk to someone during the war.
yeah, it's a dream sequence, so Naruto can instantly enter Sage Mode there. It's often overlooked that it's in his mind, where he's stronger and battling more with willpower than actual power.
I think it is also worth noting how Naruto uses most of his chakra restraining the 9 Tails normally, so he could have been using that chakra while fighting it instead.
Something i dont understand of boruto is when sakura tells kage naruto oh you lost kurama you cant use to many shadow clones or rasengans and teen naruto had this fight with his own chakra and sage mode and kage naruto cant do anything against code
Naruto was sitting still during that whole exchange, which is why he was able to continuously build up nature chakra. I remember them explaining that in the anime, he basically had unlimited sage mode. Plus he had a ton of help from Kushina.
This is true but there are also other factors that could be relevant: Jinchurikis are stronger than their tailed beasts, meaning that Naruto with 8 tails could actually physically stronger than Kurama Also Pain was fatigued at the end of the battle, meaning that the nine tails isn't necessarily stronger than him
Actually at that point - when the 9 tails Naruto was fully transforming - Pain was actually going to finish them by making the Chibaku Tensei bigger (as he said) before Minato appeared out of nowhere to save the day, resetting the seal and allowing Naruto to resume in Sage Mode ........ Yet these fanatics keep saying: Nine tails is stronger than Pain; Pain struggled to seal 1/2 of Kurama; Ha HA, Sasuke at end of War arc is stronger than Pain because he sealed all Biju with ease (which makes no sense btw, where'd he get all that chakra from and how'd they learned to do multiple simultaneously in less than a day too but OK) and they didn't come out. To address the last common claim, it clearly was different in Sasuke's case (it was ridiculous but still there is reason for the difference - besides 'PLOT'). Sasuke's Chibaku Tensei orbs/ 'black holes' made direct contact with the Bijus before anything else was pulled-in hence the Bijus were at the very core (much more difficult to escape) but in the Pain vs Jinchuri 9 tails, the 9 tails & Naruto were sealed closer in the outer region (& they still struggled with all their might to get out)
@@Ach1mWtailed beast are weaker in their pure forms. They are just huge Chakra tanks but with destructive power. Even the Akatsuki (Deidara I think) said it’s easier to catch a tailed beast than a jinchuuriki. Naruto has surpassed Kurama in the war arc. Adult Naruto even has more chakra than Kurama. And Sasuke easily sealed the tailed beast with Chibaku Tensei because Sasuke suppressed them with a rinnegan genjutsu.
It's much more easy to believe in this scene that, because it's kinda of a mental realm, the laws there are different. Or else it would be one more plot hole or excessive plot strech to the collection.
I think that why sage mode Naruto vs pain is weaker than when he was fighting kurama because of that he was holding back for kurama not having a chance to get out just like we see on the training of sage mode
Something that I always believed is that the Bijuu's power cannot be used fully, because it is still sealed, so it is likely that the Kyui did not use its real power. Surely if the fight had been in Naruto's real world, it is more likely that Naruto would lose.
I always thought that if the botched seal orocimaru did on him disrupted his chakara so the 8 trigram seal could also do something similar and unlocking the gate in order to fight the nine tails probably unlocked some more chakra control/reserves. That plus staying still while just constantly stockpiling energy seems like it could explain it.
He had home advantage when in his yin world. Plus he got stronger and purified his darkness. Minato just stalemate Kurama causing a big explosion that probably only effected Kurama. Minato wasnt really there to receive the blowback from the explosion, he was in the hospital because V2 Kushina impelled him with that toxic chakra.
also kushina..... and also it is all happening in naruto´s mind not in the real world. naruto has instant sage mode and way more chakra at his disposable
It’s like the phantom zone he wasn’t really discharging any energy but on the contrary he was still gathering more and more energy. In phantom projections you can do anything you can do in real life without the energy depletion so he wasn’t actually using any chakra whilst his nature chakra pull was just growing
Yeah, same thoughts. But I just kinda ignored it before XD Since Kushina also helped him, and Naruto was like sitting down so he can take nature energy continuously or something. That was my headcannon before XD
They were battling in the mindscape. Same as when Minato beat the nine tail’s tail beast bomb with a basic, fresh, brand new rasengan. It’s not the ninetail’s body they’re in. The host has an advantage.
It's not mindscape because Naruto outside body went Sage Mode THEN he used the jutsu. That was obviously a real battle period and was not advantage due to who is the host
@@Slyrock-1000true even killer bee got damaged when he tried to help naruto so it's not like a dream it's like an alternate dimension where tailed beast is inside naruto.
i mean, after this, naruto literally did the giant resengan barrage in the war even after expending tons of chakra already. safe to say he just has a shitload of chakra and maybe unlocked it through healing his darkness completely and also being in his mindscape where kurama cant sneakily take his chakra away or whatever, he'd probably have full control of his own chakra at that stage while inside the seal
Naruto surpassed kakashi in terms of ninjutsu with his rasanshuriken alone. But there’s not much else reason he would beat kakashi 1v1 at that point. His iq, reactions and versatility was much lower than kakashis and being generous naruto would at Most be relative speed wise. I would say he’s at least high jonin maybe low kage from endurance and ap wise. He’d beat any of the kage body guards imo.
Strengthwise he was a jonin level shinobi like Kakashi. Skill and intelligence wise he was chunin level at best. Narutos taijutsu skill and feats became as great as Nejis or Rocklee's after Pain arc.
@@JoGoat20 naruto definitely wasn’t as good as neji nor rock lee in taijustsu. If naruto was on par with lee he would be able to open the chakra gates. And nejis taijustsu would always be better than naruto because of his byakugan. When neji was just a kid, guy, kakashi, and some other Jonin had to stop neji from killing hinata.
I am at 7:54, but so far my theory is.: After Minato appeared he reconstructed the seal which boosted Naruto chakra pool by A LOT. As it was stated by Kakashi, Naruto was being drawn back by kurama as he had to use his chakra to keep Kurama inside, hypothetically if he was using about 50%-70% of his chakra pool to keep kurama inside with a weaker by the day seal, after having the seal reconstructed he didnt have that hassle anymore as ge could keep Kurama inside way easier and at the same time he didnt have to exhaust so much chakra for that, which would explain the sudden chakra pool increase and explain why naruto came out of the 8 tails kurama transformation rested and not heavily tired/wounded as the time he fought orochimaru with 4 tails
Why do people always say “Sage” naruto lost a fight to pain when he wasn’t even in sage mode at the time of losing ….i can’t believe this is still a thing, i personally believe people are just repeating the same thing they here others saying in the community especially since they use the same moment of Naruto on the ground with Rods in his body
I think the sage mode Naruto vs nine tails figt was about a boy confronting his deep darknesss and fears and conquering them, but keep in mind when Naruto fought Pain, he only had three days of training, when in his fight with nine tails, he had much more time to practice his new form.
True, I mean kages very in strengths a lot, u get there by name and belief, with also strength. Naruto has the strength point better than alot of kages throughout time at that point.
Fight the tail beast is easier than fight a person that think up strategy all the nine tails have is tails, feet or tail beast bom for blast, it’s a huge target.
Naruto was boosted in his battle against the nine-tails because he always able to keep his real body completely still, and therefore constantly suck in nature energy during the whole fight
An easy answer is probably just plot armor. In story I see it as Naruto being able to maintain his sage mode due to having a still body which gives him a longer time of use and better control over sage mode as the pain fight was his first outing with the power and we see how Naruto isn't perfect with it and has to be ready for anything Though the love boost and heal from his parents makes the difference as that is also a power up in anime just not used as much. Naruto used rage when Hinata died while Ichigo in bleach had the confidence from orihime and went from getting beat to using his hand to hold back grimjow. Though honestly I liked sage mode way more than his cloak as its way cooler and powers with restrictions are more hype
If you think about it, throughout naruto's life most of his chakra was used to contain the nine tails so when he undid the seal he could use 100% of his chakra.
I found that naruto was able to use that much power because he was stationary so he could continually draw nature energy to use. Allowing unlimited shadow clones spamming
my understanding of it was that nature chakra was necessary to beat pain because he would just absorb normal ninjutsu. In Naruto's fight against the nine-tails he was able to use his massive natural chakra reserve for jutsu. I think its definitely possible to combo regular chakra with nature chakra, as we see plenty of times where Naruto mixed different chakra natures into his rasengans. He was stronger because he was made weaker in his fight against Pain. And the debut of sage mode minus naturos natural chakra gave the illusion that he had gained an unreasonable amount of power in his fight against Kurama when he had it all along.
Well, when kurama took over narutos body in the fight against pain, all the shadow clones that amassed nature chakra, got destroyed. Where does this nature chakra go? If we assume it returned to naruto, then pain actually fights a six tailed kurama, amped with nature chakra. Which would explain the power difference.
He was sitting still thus not losing power. And the fight was in a home advantage, in his mind.... The dude could fly up to the seal and ripped it off, flying is like a jutsu in naruto which naruto had no access to then. Jaraiya sucked or the flogs giving him infinite chakra output was very low, when kurama was doing it for naruto, it was insane This video is just a search for content to publish
I always see that "fight" as symbolism for their wills clashing. Naruto didn't beat Kurama in a clash of strength, but more so on a spiritual level. The whole thing takes place inside his mind palace ffs!
We all know prime Nagato could have soloed Naruto since he would be able to wield all the powers of the six paths simultaneously along with having mastered all five nature transformations. Now... that begs the question, why didn't Nagato just absorb parts of the captured jinchuriki's chakra to regain his maneuverability? Like in the war arc, we all saw Nagato regain his health and vitality by absorbing some of Killer Bee's chakra, and it barely did anything to Killer Bee, or at least there were no side effects. Why did he never think to do that?
Yup that’s a better question and he touched on this in other videos. Nagato or pain never uses this chakra for life and energy absorption besides that fight when he’s brought to life by kabuto with itachi. I mean nagato had to keep the gedo Statue up without the tailed beast chakra till they got all them so it explains his constant drain plus managing the paths of pain.
Naruto using sage mode plus all of his latent chakra with 2 people supressing the nine tails. Bee/Gyuki were supressing it and kushina also suppressed the nine tails. Naruto probably would've lost to the nine tails if it wasn't for the both of them. We wouldn't need them or those statements if Naruto could beat the nine tails by himself.
my theory is that when Naruto beat his Yami half his chakra was no longer split between dark and light. and it became more balanced because he was now at peace within himself. This then made his chakra stronger and denser. Then on top of him being able to go into sage mode while sitting allowed him to beat the fox. I would also say that thanks to Kushinas love he also gained the focus and strong will to beat Kurama also. there is also the fact that Naruto was able to use his whole chakra pool instead of half of it due to not holding the fox back any more in the seal.
A latin youtuber once said: Sage mode seems to improve sinpases in Naruto´s brain, since his fighting prowes is not limited to streng, while Kurama mode seems to fry his brain cells cause he forgets every but raw power.
Remember the very first episode of Naruto? Where this kid who is bad at all Jutsu ESPECIALLY the CLONE jutsu, ends up using a multishadow clone jutsu the likes of which shouldn't have been possible, to save Iruka? Yeah thats what the Giant Massive Rasengan MultiShadow clone barage against the nine tails was. It was Kishimoto saying, yeah he can do this because he's the main character and has one of the largest chakra pools in Shinobi history.
I would imagine that Naruto basically had infinite sage mode because his body was stationary the whole fight in the real world. Sage Naruto was humiliating the paths of pain as long as Sage mode was active. Not sure if Dygo brings that up in the vid
People don’t seem to get that Naruto’s deal works USING his chakra. If Naruto were to ditch Kurama he’d have much more spare Chakra and have an easier time building nature energy. Naruto lost to pain not because he was weaker, but because his emotions were taken advantage of.
Nah he kinda did cheat cause he had to use Mommy’s Adamantite chains which is cool but if Kushina’s consciousness wasn’t sealed inside Naruto he wouldn’t have won that fight against Kurama
What ppl never take into account when scaling power and comparing is FREAKING battle xp. I mean, I get the logic behind using the Pain arc to scale the power of Sage mode, but that was Naruto’s second fight in Sage mode and first full battle against arguably one of the most powerful characters in the ninja world. A better sense of Sage mode’s power amplification is Hashirama against Madara and Kurama clad in Susanoo armor. He decimated both just in Sage mode. Battle xp and maturity also matte
Well first of all he had help from Mishima, who was using her chains to retrain kurama so you have to take that into account , but Naruto was able to keep up with and even equal the nine tails in power because A he was sitting still in that state and therefore could constantly mould sage chakra and B it was stated by kakashi that if Naruto wasn’t suppressing the nine tails (which at this point he had released the seal) he would have 100 times the amount than himself.
well, it was only half of nine tails, plus Naruto must have gotten stronger from the waterfall of truth in the mindscape and he had Kushina's chakra which held 100 percent of nine tails before she died as well. So if Naruto inhereted some of her chakra he'd have more overall chakra. Keep in mind Naruto was rushing to learn sage mode so after Pain was defeated he had more time to fully take time to better train it.
My theory us that kurama said he is fighting the sage chakara so naruto has a harder time gathering chakara. During thid fight kurama is distracted fighting Naruto so hes able to gather the chakara easily. Thus a power boost.
No doubt learning sage mode put Naruto on another level. KCM 1, KCM 2, sage of 6 path are great but I feel Naruto learning sage mode put him in the level to easily achieve those . And clearly sage mode Naruto can beat ms sasuke, even obito state that.
Without the 9 tails naruto looses to genjutsu spam. He also can't do anything about amatrasu. Sauskes also much faster with way more battle experience. Tbh naruto didn't stand a chance until kcm 1.
@@bobbob-zc1nxeven with any kcm naruto loses. If I remembered correctly, any uchiha with mangekyou sharingan is able to completely control the 9 tails or just any tailed beast. Or if it was just a special gengutsu that only Obito and madara could use cause they are the only two shown controlling Kurama.
@@balloonb0y677 it's implied you need a strong genjutsu for the sharingan specifically but let's be honest every nation controls thrir tailed beast somehow. So it's probably a clan thing. Thought if not the sharingan it was 1 of those methods
Is Sage Mode Naruto Multi-Continental?
I personaly think sage mode Naruto IS multi continental
Can probably destroy a hidden village relatively easily, in a single attack? Probably a tiny hill.
I mean the multi-shadow clone jutsu along with some Rasen Shuriken should do the job and ofc a sprinkle of izanami level ASS pull
@@nostalgiagamer9452 - What the?! You do know how big a continent is, yes?
Hey @dygoknight do you think hiruko from the will of fire movie could defeat pain seeing he was stronger than kakashi there
Sage Mode I always have a fondness for this form because that was when I found Naruto Shippuden at its peak. A power-up that made sense in supplementing Naruto's capabilities(also smartly utilizing Shadow clone development) and also very much fitting Naruto thematically as gaining more insight about the world/ being entrusted by Jiraiya's will. Also, I'm not going to lie; that red jacket was always badass and wished that Naruto could have had a variant of that as an adult.
It showed how much Naruto had become Jiraya 's perfect pupil unlike Pain,I really wish he kept the cape too, apparently kishimoto got tired of drawing it so it disappeared,at least kcm 2 brought it back somewhat temporarily.
Yeah the cape was pretty awesome & his hokage cape should've kept the same look honestly. I really don't know why they decided to shorten it & make it look like that. Not that it looks bad. It's just that the minato & sage mode capes look awesome. Oh and actually i have no idea why they decided to switch the flames at the end of his hokage cape with triangles. Along with his short hair, it just feels like they want to make him look his worst in boruto. Anyways cheers from Egypt.
After pain arc shouldve been a timeskip. Adult naruto for war and final battle lol
sage mode was definitely a peak for Naruto Shippuden, it enhanced his abilities and added depth to his character. and yeah, that red jacket was undeniably badass. it would've been cool to see Naruto with a variant of it as an adult.
Agreed Pain Arc was peak Shippuden. It went really down hill afterwards for me.
I always thought Naruto wasn't literally fighting the Nine-Tails. The "fight" was taking place in his mind, and was just a visual representation of a mental struggle.
I thought that's not even 20% of half of nine tails 😂
He was?, Naruto's mind scape isn't explained well but basically something that happens in his mind is also physical,like when Sasuke went into his mind to suppress the kurama chakra in the tenchi bridge arc.
I more so see Naruto talking to karuma when we see them on the water similar to when sasuke enters Naruto’s mind to see the nine tails. Another good example probably most iconic is when Naruto pushes those massive gates open to free karuma and work alongside him.
Same but they keep switching from inside his head or soul or outside 😂
I don't think it's a mental struggle.
There wouldn't be a way for him to gather nature energy in his mind
I think naruto absorbing his "hatred side" was one of the biggest power amps in the series. He became a much more mature ninja and understood better his capacities and limits through this fight. He became more efficient
Sage mode Naruto is the “peak” Naruto in my opinion... It barely change appearance-wise, but you can see the sage mode actually develops Naruto’s mind as well. I find post-sage Naruto started being more mature and not as reckless and stupid as before...
1. He got experience while he fought pain
2. He trained between the pain fight and this fight
3. Kushina and bee helped him
And he was sitting still. And could fly in his mind like I do all the time.
Sage mode rules
And it was only half Kurama
yeah, Naruto gained experience from his fight against Pain, trained in between, and received help from Kushina and Bee. All those factors contributed to his growth and improved performance.
Naruto=Rasengan, change my mind
There is a simple answer to the speculation. Naruto was sitting and absorbing nature energy so he had unlimited sage energy when battling the nine tail. Meanwhile against pain he had a limited amount of sage energy
Also he was winning until he was poisoned by kurama's chakra
This one, right here, this is it.
I always finded it evident, that was the reason
@@SuperBlueGamer9000kuramas chakra actually saved him. He had chakra rods in his back but the nietails freed him from that
@@Danger-Zone848 Kurama's chakra saved Naruto when he was fighting Pain, but when Naruto fought Kurama, his chakra almost corrupted Naruto's but Kushina intervened
Technically kushina helped him against the 9 talis
Yep!
Yep, Kushina did lend a helping hand against the Nine-Tails. Teamwork makes the dream work.
Bro watch the video before commenting
I feel like people overrate Naruto’s performance against the nine tails just because until then we’ve never seen anybody step up to the nine tails like that. He didn’t actually do any lasting damage, needed Bee to save him from a TBB that would’ve cooked him, in a fight in the real world he would’ve gotten washed AND he can enter Sage mode while moving because his physical body is still, that’s a lot of advantages and that he wouldn’t have Irl. Sage mode is also my favorite transformation of Naruto’s, too bad it got power cliffed
If Naruto didn't spam the rasengan barrage there he would have been squished bad,an example of rasengan spamming working in his favor,imagine if Naruto somehow could use summons in his mind scape?
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“If naruto didn’t win, he would’ve lost”
@@maalikserebryakovit's. More that inside his mind battle are most of the time none represtative of power
@@justinarzola4584 If Naruto didn’t have Bee helping him he would’ve lost, period. That rasengan barrage spam actually did 0 damage to Kurama
@@hobbyhorse5848frl. If his mom didn’t literally demobilize Kurama, naruto wouldn’t even be able to land a hit.
Naruto vs pain. Ichigo vs Byakuya/aizen/juha and Luffy vs kaido. Many times the anime community just forget how the fight went. If not for a last minute save from something else they would have died after that fight.
Heck same with Goku vs Vegeta. Vegeta wrecked Goku and if not for so much help from everyone left they would have lost. Those are the best reverse power creep moments where the enemy is just that powerful
Naruto fighting kurama could regen Infinite sage chakra, cause he wasnt really moving
Two things, imagine how much Chakra Naruto is usually using to hold back the nine tails. When we're inside his astral projection, we get to see him use the entirety of his Chakra pool, not just his extra.
Six tails in the Pain fight is probably as strong as it is because Naruto is willingly assisting it to a degree. In every other instance, he's fighting against it but losing.
Thirdly, I bet getting the extra seal from his Dad, probably made Naruto's use of Chakra much more efficient because he didn't have to use as much to hold back the nine tails.
Except when Naruto hurt Sakura as four tails,so he definitely wasn't holding back then during the orochimaru fight,with the pain fight he was only focused on Pain.
that's an interesting perspective, Naruto's astral projection allows him to tap into his entire chakra pool, giving him access to more power. And you're right, when Naruto willingly assists the Six Tails, it becomes stronger. Getting the extra seal from his dad likely made Naruto's chakra usage more efficient, reducing the amount needed to control the Nine-Tails.
And also unlimited nature charka absorption.
@@Suto_KoAlso, remember what he said at the before he entered his mindscape.
that's a cool ability.@@nameless_moon
Naruto is sitting in his own mindspace while being perpetually filled with Sage chakra. Of course he was omega-amped
His main body was sitting still giving him infinite sage chakra. He was not that strong with just sage mode even in the war arc
Minato fought the entire 9 tails, while Naruto only fought half of it
Its a dream sequence notice he can instantly enter sage mode (something he couldn't do in the real world at the time). Everyone overlooks that it was in his mind hell even the 8 tails was nerfed because he was a 3rd party invading another mental space Naruto is stronger because its his own mind and its more their wills battling than their actual power
Naruto's mind scape could be both physical and mental, it's not really explained how his mind scape thing works so I don't really know, this mind scape ability/world seems to only be for Jinchuriki since he was able to conversate with the other tailed beasts while imprisoned by obito and switch on and off between himself and Kurama to talk to someone during the war.
yeah, it's a dream sequence, so Naruto can instantly enter Sage Mode there. It's often overlooked that it's in his mind, where he's stronger and battling more with willpower than actual power.
It’s a subconscious state, achieved by meditation.
The best naruto explaination channel :
I think it is also worth noting how Naruto uses most of his chakra restraining the 9 Tails normally, so he could have been using that chakra while fighting it instead.
1:30 One of the greatest panels in manga history. I still get chills every time i see it
so true
Mind you, Minato defeated full Nine Tails with the rasengan, where as Naruto defeated only half
Bro forgot he can use shadow clones charge sage mode Naruto 🤦♂️
Amazing analysis I can now understand how he got this power
Something i dont understand of boruto is when sakura tells kage naruto oh you lost kurama you cant use to many shadow clones or rasengans and teen naruto had this fight with his own chakra and sage mode and kage naruto cant do anything against code
Sage mode was one of the best things Naruto has
I like Naruto but Kurama could’ve beat him but plot armor Kushina and Killer Bee help him to keep up with Kurama
Naruto was sitting still during that whole exchange, which is why he was able to continuously build up nature chakra. I remember them explaining that in the anime, he basically had unlimited sage mode. Plus he had a ton of help from Kushina.
This is true but there are also other factors that could be relevant:
Jinchurikis are stronger than their tailed beasts, meaning that Naruto with 8 tails could actually physically stronger than Kurama
Also Pain was fatigued at the end of the battle, meaning that the nine tails isn't necessarily stronger than him
Actually at that point - when the 9 tails Naruto was fully transforming - Pain was actually going to finish them by making the Chibaku Tensei bigger (as he said) before Minato appeared out of nowhere to save the day, resetting the seal and allowing Naruto to resume in Sage Mode ........ Yet these fanatics keep saying: Nine tails is stronger than Pain; Pain struggled to seal 1/2 of Kurama; Ha HA, Sasuke at end of War arc is stronger than Pain because he sealed all Biju with ease (which makes no sense btw, where'd he get all that chakra from and how'd they learned to do multiple simultaneously in less than a day too but OK) and they didn't come out.
To address the last common claim, it clearly was different in Sasuke's case (it was ridiculous but still there is reason for the difference - besides 'PLOT'). Sasuke's Chibaku Tensei orbs/ 'black holes' made direct contact with the Bijus before anything else was pulled-in hence the Bijus were at the very core (much more difficult to escape) but in the Pain vs Jinchuri 9 tails, the 9 tails & Naruto were sealed closer in the outer region (& they still struggled with all their might to get out)
@@Ach1mWtailed beast are weaker in their pure forms. They are just huge Chakra tanks but with destructive power. Even the Akatsuki (Deidara I think) said it’s easier to catch a tailed beast than a jinchuuriki.
Naruto has surpassed Kurama in the war arc. Adult Naruto even has more chakra than Kurama.
And Sasuke easily sealed the tailed beast with Chibaku Tensei because Sasuke suppressed them with a rinnegan genjutsu.
It's much more easy to believe in this scene that, because it's kinda of a mental realm, the laws there are different. Or else it would be one more plot hole or excessive plot strech to the collection.
I think that why sage mode Naruto vs pain is weaker than when he was fighting kurama because of that he was holding back for kurama not having a chance to get out just like we see on the training of sage mode
I think that the answer is that Pain has so much hack abilities
That's correct. He doesn't want to admit that hence the reason why he made this video, giving every other 'explanation' and opinions
i just think kishimoto used the fact that it all happened in his psyche or in the relm thingy where they can talk in that he exaggerated a bit lol
This was epic. I love how Naruto has grown to the point where he has the strength to tame kurama. Well.. at least at this point of the series
I love when characters actuaklly run out of their power resource in fights
Something that I always believed is that the Bijuu's power cannot be used fully, because it is still sealed, so it is likely that the Kyui did not use its real power. Surely if the fight had been in Naruto's real world, it is more likely that Naruto would lose.
You forgot that months passed between Naruto vs Pain and the turtle island. Naruto had been training off panel.
He wasn’t stronger he was semi relative tho and had help with eight tails and kushina I thought
I always thought that if the botched seal orocimaru did on him disrupted his chakara so the 8 trigram seal could also do something similar and unlocking the gate in order to fight the nine tails probably unlocked some more chakra control/reserves. That plus staying still while just constantly stockpiling energy seems like it could explain it.
Pretty insane that you are able to do new naruto content even after its been beaten to death
He had home advantage when in his yin world. Plus he got stronger and purified his darkness.
Minato just stalemate Kurama causing a big explosion that probably only effected Kurama. Minato wasnt really there to receive the blowback from the explosion, he was in the hospital because V2 Kushina impelled him with that toxic chakra.
When you realize kurama was totally right to be pissed at naruto who was basically a parasite.
Same things for other jinchurichu
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Bee helping to suppress some of Kurama’s power so Naruto could fight him?
also kushina..... and also it is all happening in naruto´s mind not in the real world. naruto has instant sage mode and way more chakra at his disposable
He did,Kushina helped him with her chains too.
could nine tails kill king ghidorah from godzilla king of monsters easily?
Naruto's fight against the 9 tails happened inside naruto so his actual body was still and constantly bringing in nature chakra
It’s like the phantom zone he wasn’t really discharging any energy but on the contrary he was still gathering more and more energy. In phantom projections you can do anything you can do in real life without the energy depletion so he wasn’t actually using any chakra whilst his nature chakra pull was just growing
Yeah, same thoughts.
But I just kinda ignored it before XD
Since Kushina also helped him, and Naruto was like sitting down so he can take nature energy continuously or something. That was my headcannon before XD
They were battling in the mindscape. Same as when Minato beat the nine tail’s tail beast bomb with a basic, fresh, brand new rasengan. It’s not the ninetail’s body they’re in. The host has an advantage.
It's not mindscape because Naruto outside body went Sage Mode THEN he used the jutsu. That was obviously a real battle period and was not advantage due to who is the host
@@Slyrock-1000true even killer bee got damaged when he tried to help naruto so it's not like a dream it's like an alternate dimension where tailed beast is inside naruto.
i mean, after this, naruto literally did the giant resengan barrage in the war even after expending tons of chakra already. safe to say he just has a shitload of chakra and maybe unlocked it through healing his darkness completely and also being in his mindscape where kurama cant sneakily take his chakra away or whatever, he'd probably have full control of his own chakra at that stage while inside the seal
Naruto was not low-Jounin before sage mode. It is stated multiple times that he had surpassed Kakashi prior to his senjustsu training.
It was also stated Sakura caught up to So6p chakra Naruto and Sasuke
Naruto surpassed kakashi in terms of ninjutsu with his rasanshuriken alone. But there’s not much else reason he would beat kakashi 1v1 at that point. His iq, reactions and versatility was much lower than kakashis and being generous naruto would at Most be relative speed wise.
I would say he’s at least high jonin maybe low kage from endurance and ap wise. He’d beat any of the kage body guards imo.
Strengthwise he was a jonin level shinobi like Kakashi.
Skill and intelligence wise he was chunin level at best.
Narutos taijutsu skill and feats became as great as Nejis or Rocklee's after Pain arc.
@@JoGoat20 in shippuden kakashi with just base sharingan is kage level
@@JoGoat20 naruto definitely wasn’t as good as neji nor rock lee in taijustsu.
If naruto was on par with lee he would be able to open the chakra gates.
And nejis taijustsu would always be better than naruto because of his byakugan.
When neji was just a kid, guy, kakashi, and some other Jonin had to stop neji from killing hinata.
I am at 7:54, but so far my theory is.:
After Minato appeared he reconstructed the seal which boosted Naruto chakra pool by A LOT.
As it was stated by Kakashi, Naruto was being drawn back by kurama as he had to use his chakra to keep Kurama inside, hypothetically if he was using about 50%-70% of his chakra pool to keep kurama inside with a weaker by the day seal, after having the seal reconstructed he didnt have that hassle anymore as ge could keep Kurama inside way easier and at the same time he didnt have to exhaust so much chakra for that, which would explain the sudden chakra pool increase and explain why naruto came out of the 8 tails kurama transformation rested and not heavily tired/wounded as the time he fought orochimaru with 4 tails
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Why do people always say “Sage” naruto lost a fight to pain when he wasn’t even in sage mode at the time of losing ….i can’t believe this is still a thing, i personally believe people are just repeating the same thing they here others saying in the community especially since they use the same moment of Naruto on the ground with Rods in his body
True he literally just ran out of chackra before he was beat he even tanked an almighty push to his face in sage mode
Hey I would love you to talk about naruto the will of fire movie. Could hiruko defeat pain
I think the sage mode Naruto vs nine tails figt was about a boy confronting his deep darknesss and fears and conquering them, but keep in mind when Naruto fought Pain, he only had three days of training, when in his fight with nine tails, he had much more time to practice his new form.
Imagine if Kushina had a sage mode
Naruto was already Kage level before sage mode
True, I mean kages very in strengths a lot, u get there by name and belief, with also strength. Naruto has the strength point better than alot of kages throughout time at that point.
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Love this Naruto has been saved by plot armor as much as sasuke
Its pretty obvious what happened they plot armored tf outta Naruto 😂
Fight the tail beast is easier than fight a person that think up strategy all the nine tails have is tails, feet or tail beast bom for blast, it’s a huge target.
Naruto was boosted in his battle against the nine-tails because he always able to keep his real body completely still, and therefore constantly suck in nature energy during the whole fight
Naruto used sage mode in the five kage summit arc, he used it after he escaped from yamato
An easy answer is probably just plot armor.
In story I see it as Naruto being able to maintain his sage mode due to having a still body which gives him a longer time of use and better control over sage mode as the pain fight was his first outing with the power and we see how Naruto isn't perfect with it and has to be ready for anything
Though the love boost and heal from his parents makes the difference as that is also a power up in anime just not used as much. Naruto used rage when Hinata died while Ichigo in bleach had the confidence from orihime and went from getting beat to using his hand to hold back grimjow.
Though honestly I liked sage mode way more than his cloak as its way cooler and powers with restrictions are more hype
Let's be real. Naruto won, because Kurama had half of power.
Oh wait i forget about that damm if i was kurama i would cry bro he was in so much disadvantage
Is that Guile's theme from Street Fighter 14:11?
If you think about it, throughout naruto's life most of his chakra was used to contain the nine tails so when he undid the seal he could use 100% of his chakra.
I found that naruto was able to use that much power because he was stationary so he could continually draw nature energy to use. Allowing unlimited shadow clones spamming
my understanding of it was that nature chakra was necessary to beat pain because he would just absorb normal ninjutsu. In Naruto's fight against the nine-tails he was able to use his massive natural chakra reserve for jutsu. I think its definitely possible to combo regular chakra with nature chakra, as we see plenty of times where Naruto mixed different chakra natures into his rasengans. He was stronger because he was made weaker in his fight against Pain. And the debut of sage mode minus naturos natural chakra gave the illusion that he had gained an unreasonable amount of power in his fight against Kurama when he had it all along.
Well, when kurama took over narutos body in the fight against pain, all the shadow clones that amassed nature chakra, got destroyed.
Where does this nature chakra go?
If we assume it returned to naruto, then pain actually fights a six tailed kurama, amped with nature chakra.
Which would explain the power difference.
Let's be honest kurama knows Naruto heart and didn't go all out on him
Ah yes naruto getting that nice plot amps
He was sitting still thus not losing power. And the fight was in a home advantage, in his mind.... The dude could fly up to the seal and ripped it off, flying is like a jutsu in naruto which naruto had no access to then.
Jaraiya sucked or the flogs giving him infinite chakra output was very low, when kurama was doing it for naruto, it was insane
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I always see that "fight" as symbolism for their wills clashing.
Naruto didn't beat Kurama in a clash of strength, but more so on a spiritual level. The whole thing takes place inside his mind palace ffs!
We all know prime Nagato could have soloed Naruto since he would be able to wield all the powers of the six paths simultaneously along with having mastered all five nature transformations. Now... that begs the question, why didn't Nagato just absorb parts of the captured jinchuriki's chakra to regain his maneuverability? Like in the war arc, we all saw Nagato regain his health and vitality by absorbing some of Killer Bee's chakra, and it barely did anything to Killer Bee, or at least there were no side effects. Why did he never think to do that?
Yup that’s a better question and he touched on this in other videos. Nagato or pain never uses this chakra for life and energy absorption besides that fight when he’s brought to life by kabuto with itachi. I mean nagato had to keep the gedo Statue up without the tailed beast chakra till they got all them so it explains his constant drain plus managing the paths of pain.
Naruto using sage mode plus all of his latent chakra with 2 people supressing the nine tails. Bee/Gyuki were supressing it and kushina also suppressed the nine tails. Naruto probably would've lost to the nine tails if it wasn't for the both of them. We wouldn't need them or those statements if Naruto could beat the nine tails by himself.
my theory is that when Naruto beat his Yami half his chakra was no longer split between dark and light. and it became more balanced because he was now at peace within himself. This then made his chakra stronger and denser. Then on top of him being able to go into sage mode while sitting allowed him to beat the fox. I would also say that thanks to Kushinas love he also gained the focus and strong will to beat Kurama also. there is also the fact that Naruto was able to use his whole chakra pool instead of half of it due to not holding the fox back any more in the seal.
I’m like 99% sure it was just because Naruto had limited sage chakra in the Pain fight but had infinite sage chakra against Kurama.
another reason might be because he can actually use ninjutsu in the kurama fight but can't use it in the pain fight because they absorb the jutsu
A latin youtuber once said: Sage mode seems to improve sinpases in Naruto´s brain, since his fighting prowes is not limited to streng, while Kurama mode seems to fry his brain cells cause he forgets every but raw power.
Lmao
Hikaku Uchia would’ve stomped the ninetails in base. Just saying.
Obviously
who's that?
Yeah thats has no concept of diff ofc
Negative difficulty
Whos that?
Best form in series
where can I read the minato and kushina manga?
Remember the very first episode of Naruto? Where this kid who is bad at all Jutsu ESPECIALLY the CLONE jutsu, ends up using a multishadow clone jutsu the likes of which shouldn't have been possible, to save Iruka?
Yeah thats what the Giant Massive Rasengan MultiShadow clone barage against the nine tails was.
It was Kishimoto saying, yeah he can do this because he's the main character and has one of the largest chakra pools in Shinobi history.
Those Minato manga spread spoilers came in full throttle
Fun fact: naruto fans have never watched the show
I would imagine that Naruto basically had infinite sage mode because his body was stationary the whole fight in the real world. Sage Naruto was humiliating the paths of pain as long as Sage mode was active. Not sure if Dygo brings that up in the vid
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Unleashing nine tails is a part of his toolbox
why didnt nagato succ naruto's chakra if he was so starved?
Because plot.
He could've sucked paper girls chakra before naruto got there too but he didnt
People don’t seem to get that Naruto’s deal works USING his chakra. If Naruto were to ditch Kurama he’d have much more spare Chakra and have an easier time building nature energy.
Naruto lost to pain not because he was weaker, but because his emotions were taken advantage of.
Nah he kinda did cheat cause he had to use Mommy’s Adamantite chains which is cool but if Kushina’s consciousness wasn’t sealed inside Naruto he wouldn’t have won that fight against Kurama
I hope you do it better in your rewrite.
What ppl never take into account when scaling power and comparing is FREAKING battle xp. I mean, I get the logic behind using the Pain arc to scale the power of Sage mode, but that was Naruto’s second fight in Sage mode and first full battle against arguably one of the most powerful characters in the ninja world. A better sense of Sage mode’s power amplification is Hashirama against Madara and Kurama clad in Susanoo armor. He decimated both just in Sage mode. Battle xp and maturity also matte
Well first of all he had help from Mishima, who was using her chains to retrain kurama so you have to take that into account , but Naruto was able to keep up with and even equal the nine tails in power because A he was sitting still in that state and therefore could constantly mould sage chakra and B it was stated by kakashi that if Naruto wasn’t suppressing the nine tails (which at this point he had released the seal) he would have 100 times the amount than himself.
Do you think if Naruto comes back with Hinata he’ll be even more stronger and able to unlock six paths sage mode without the nine tails
Now that Naruto doesn't have kurama, he can move in sage mode using toads
The fight with pain was the first naruto fight in sage mode. He got better faster stronger.
It's like super saiyan it's a multiplier
well, it was only half of nine tails, plus Naruto must have gotten stronger from the waterfall of truth in the mindscape and he had Kushina's chakra which held 100 percent of nine tails before she died as well. So if Naruto inhereted some of her chakra he'd have more overall chakra. Keep in mind Naruto was rushing to learn sage mode so after Pain was defeated he had more time to fully take time to better train it.
His mama jumped in 😅😅😅😂
My theory us that kurama said he is fighting the sage chakara so naruto has a harder time gathering chakara. During thid fight kurama is distracted fighting Naruto so hes able to gather the chakara easily. Thus a power boost.
Mama and daddy jumped in 😢😢😢
To be fair. That Kurama was at half of its true power since Minato has the other half.
No doubt learning sage mode put Naruto on another level. KCM 1, KCM 2, sage of 6 path are great but I feel Naruto learning sage mode put him in the level to easily achieve those .
And clearly sage mode Naruto can beat ms sasuke, even obito state that.
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Yes if they fought in his mind too but irl nope.
Without the 9 tails naruto looses to genjutsu spam.
He also can't do anything about amatrasu. Sauskes also much faster with way more battle experience.
Tbh naruto didn't stand a chance until kcm 1.
@@bobbob-zc1nxeven with any kcm naruto loses. If I remembered correctly, any uchiha with mangekyou sharingan is able to completely control the 9 tails or just any tailed beast. Or if it was just a special gengutsu that only Obito and madara could use cause they are the only two shown controlling Kurama.
@@balloonb0y677 it's implied you need a strong genjutsu for the sharingan specifically but let's be honest every nation controls thrir tailed beast somehow. So it's probably a clan thing. Thought if not the sharingan it was 1 of those methods