Stephen Perkins "Who Are You" at Guitar Center Sessions

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  • @danwest9900
    @danwest9900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Stephen Perkins' technical skill with percussion is amazing to watch, but it is his joy and passion that kept me glued to his performance.

  • @mattmallecoccio8378
    @mattmallecoccio8378 7 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    He plays it in the spirit of Keith Moon, just going freakin' insane behind the kit. Love it!

    • @wlcrutch
      @wlcrutch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s cuz Perkins is fuckin awesome

    • @latentsea
      @latentsea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Perky influences; Bonham, Neil, Kieth... All wrapped up into one...

    • @SpeedyCanuck
      @SpeedyCanuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think it's possible to play it in any other fashion.

  • @stap68
    @stap68 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Once a week I come home from a hard day's work grab a beer and sit and watch this video it validates all

  • @williammitchell7321
    @williammitchell7321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Just recently came across this video and I was stunned by this performance. I am a huge Who fan, I have listened to "Who are You" thousands of times since 1978 and had no idea Moon had this much going on during this track. The album itself is uneven but this song is a masterpiece and a nod to Moon's genius, albeit waning by the time of this recording. Thank you Stephen Perkins for illuminating and breathing new life into this majestic and underrated work.

    • @closinginonclosure
      @closinginonclosure 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Woah, bud. I understand you enjoyed the video, but was it really necessary that you "came across it". That's a bit homoerotic and just straight weird. Nasty boy.

  • @russofris
    @russofris 10 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    Great job. It's extremely difficult to play parts composed by someone that's certifiably insane.

    • @anthonymontoya5565
      @anthonymontoya5565 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LMFAO :)

    • @johnnystek6900
      @johnnystek6900 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      not so much insane but borderline genius

    • @mjbfree906
      @mjbfree906 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spaz

    • @theimprovedbore550
      @theimprovedbore550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Johnny Stek no Keith Moon IRL was batshit crazy. He blew up hotel toilets with cherry bombs

    • @Gabrielarbizazuluaga
      @Gabrielarbizazuluaga 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well he got bored... what do u do? Hehe

  • @dank5285
    @dank5285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Never thought any drummer would be brave enough to take on Keith Moon, but that was incredible! I thoroughly enjoyed that. This guy is freaking awesome!

    • @mattrogers1946
      @mattrogers1946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What about Zac Starkey?

    • @plasticoflamingo2952
      @plasticoflamingo2952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out Sina, of Sina Drums, on YT. She does quite a killer job of Moon covers.

    • @andrewablett1712
      @andrewablett1712 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattrogers1946Zac is hopeless

    • @chrislaustin
      @chrislaustin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattrogers1946 Zac is a very solid drummer, and is easily the best fit since Moon died, but he's solid with the 60+ year old band. Of course I'm talking hypothetical here, but I don't see Zac fitting in when the band was young like Moon did. When he joined up, the band was still good, but not pre 80's good, so he could be better and just tones it down because of the band hes currently got, and not the one they once were?

  • @maltman36
    @maltman36 8 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Stephen is up with the best. What makes him great is his pure passion and excitement when he plays.

  • @G-Fi-High
    @G-Fi-High 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The parts are one thing, the feel is entirely another thing. He nailed it.

    • @jeffreytalbot3431
      @jeffreytalbot3431 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/video/6zWGlOEysK0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cfoif_dUVM39YdWo

  • @stevearbogast8556
    @stevearbogast8556 8 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This dude is just amazing at percussion, and just making you feel his passion. Highly skilled.

  • @bobbydroback8994
    @bobbydroback8994 8 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    absolutely gifted.one of the top 5 drummers of my generation.

  • @NigelT57
    @NigelT57 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I saw the man himself at Charlton Stadium in 1976. Even though the two prima donnas did not even try, he was his manic self and on top form. This is the nearest I have heard to the man himself - well done sir.

  • @veerchasm1
    @veerchasm1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Probably the best drummer I’ve ever seen in my life. The perfect balance of chops, taste, performer and entertainer. Saw Jane’s in 1990, blew me away

    • @kevinn.5066
      @kevinn.5066 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember the first time I saw Jane’s live. Stephen was so good and the way he played I swear I thought he had six arms, LOL!

  • @dosanchoas
    @dosanchoas 9 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    RARELY do I sit through listening to entire "bash fests" of today's so-called GREAT drummers.......
    instead, this time I hung in there w/Stephen's performance! I appreciate his formidable TALENT & DILIGENCE in reproducing work of master MOONIE! thanks for posting!

    • @georgestetson5572
      @georgestetson5572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol ok 👌 😂 no one cares what you RARELY do snob let’s see your cover of that song since your such a pro and a drum aficionado 😂 I’m glad it was up to your standards.....and I’m sure he gives a shit if you appreciate his TALENT & DILIGENCE

    • @dosanchoas
      @dosanchoas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@georgestetson5572 ouch...

    • @lzasyr
      @lzasyr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@georgestetson5572 bruh he was just complimenting him

    • @ianmason2003
      @ianmason2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perkins is far from today’s great drummers. His prominence was before millennials knew what a drum solo was.

  • @Defmusicman1
    @Defmusicman1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow! Just wow! That’s all I can say. As a deaf bassist, this has always been one of my favorite songs. I had no idea that the drum part was so hard. Outstanding job, sir. Bravo!

    • @kylewinward8847
      @kylewinward8847 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Im a bassist (well, very amateur) and this is also one of my favorite drum lines. May I ask have you always been deaf and are you totally deaf? I'm just curious for when you are listening and playing do you go by the feel of the sound vibrations. Do you play a lot of Who? I'd like to be able to. Best to you fellow bassist.

  • @AccuracySpeaks
    @AccuracySpeaks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Stephen Perkins just killed it right here!! This is how you give it your all, I've always loved this guy's work, the joy, enthusiasm, and technicality he plays with are immeasurable! Throw in that he seems like just an all-around great dude, and that makes for an amazing individual!

    • @kevinn.5066
      @kevinn.5066 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can tell you from first hand experience that Stephen is a really great guy. He was good friends with my cousin back in the day. The two of them came to my apartment one day and Stephen brought a cassette with the rough mixes of some of the songs for Ritual. It was so cool to hear those songs (I was already a huge Jane’s fan). Shortly after that I recorded him on drums for a couple of demo songs for my cousin. And being a drummer myself it was a really awesome experience watching him play on my drum kit. Stephen is a great guy! He’s friendly, kind, funny, and generous. I hadn’t seen this video until now. He’s an incredible drummer! One of the all time greats.

  • @adimeadozen23
    @adimeadozen23 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This guy deserves more attention!

  • @tomusher6093
    @tomusher6093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So wow. Whole new appreciation for Moon for his composition and Perkins for the amazing cover. Powerful. So much variation.

  • @jp0blues04
    @jp0blues04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    FINALLY.....A GUY WHO ACTUALLY HAS THE ABILITY AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE ARTIST. THIS IS..... what Kieth Moon played like. Hint.....chops...passion....recreation.

  • @Ash_Hudson
    @Ash_Hudson ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This dude's probably been jamming to this song since he was a kid. You don't play this song that well if you haven't. Captured the essence of it.

  • @pjoker1000
    @pjoker1000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    All these years and not watch this amazing performance of this Great Song

  • @KKMcK1
    @KKMcK1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This cat is a great freaking drummer!!! Not too many in the world can capture the magical spirit of Moonie!!!

  • @williamjay8715
    @williamjay8715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Holy shit that was amazing. Best who cover I've heard. Perkins is an outstanding drummer. Saw Jane's live in 90 and 91 and he blew me away.

    • @kevinn.5066
      @kevinn.5066 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw him play a bunch of shows in 88’ and 89’ and could swear he had six arms, LOL!

  • @modulor
    @modulor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    SPECTACULAR! What an awesome performance!

  • @ZipSnipe
    @ZipSnipe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    would never have been Jane's Addiction without him !!!!!!! A legend no doubt !!!!

  • @jeff8117
    @jeff8117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A great drum cover for sure! I always love when a great drummer gives Keith Moon props. Some don't like his antics but he is easily one of the most important musicians in rock/pop music history. Like the other three members of The Who, a true trailblazer.

  • @russellwarr3791
    @russellwarr3791 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fan-bloody-tastic, the moment I hear the unmistakable intro of this song on FM radio I turn up the volume.

  • @eray9934
    @eray9934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn! Just watching this I have even more appreciation for both Stephen and Keith.

  • @joeharvey5556
    @joeharvey5556 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12 out of 10... superior job of an insanely difficult piece to ever master. Superior job.

  • @fess04
    @fess04 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    very, very nice.....love the energy...and plays the music the way it should be played....with snap, energy,taste, and most of all...conviction!!!

  • @hedrinklz
    @hedrinklz 9 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Sweet jesus Perkins is good

  • @davidjacksonjackson3212
    @davidjacksonjackson3212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW, that was a great piece. of drumming, I do not know what those people in the background where watching but I could not help smiling throughout that session,

  • @HamsterDude5150
    @HamsterDude5150 10 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    i got to meet this guy today and i got a signed drum head from him!!!!!

    • @michaelgeinopolos6911
      @michaelgeinopolos6911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Alberto5150 it’s 2020 now but this comment is still awesome.

  • @Aerospacer77
    @Aerospacer77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Best cover I ever saw of this tune. Steve Perkins is one of the best.

  • @guitargeorge1964
    @guitargeorge1964 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was amazing. One of my favorite songs.

  • @ChunkyMonkaayyy
    @ChunkyMonkaayyy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I think a 1,000 of those views are from me.

    • @electricworrier
      @electricworrier 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      no kidding. found it at 2:00am and it's now 2:30

    • @Smacctown
      @Smacctown 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hugh Jafro 5,000 from me

    • @ChunkyMonkaayyy
      @ChunkyMonkaayyy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Still watching this vid. Just great!

    • @robvegas9354
      @robvegas9354 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ChunkyMonkaayyy same here mate!!! This great!

    • @ChunkyMonkaayyy
      @ChunkyMonkaayyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ayyyyy back again

  • @NicoleEhrhardt-y5w
    @NicoleEhrhardt-y5w 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant!!!!

  • @michaelacri2875
    @michaelacri2875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing cover!!! This should have more views!!

  • @clogsdon72
    @clogsdon72 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I will never hear this song the same way again. Astounding. I love Perkins but apparently have vastly underappreciated Kieth Moon.

  • @SteveJones379
    @SteveJones379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One of the GREATEST drummers ever....and Keith Moon too!

  • @litgamer6205
    @litgamer6205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You don't realize the energy put into this until you see it played in front of you

  • @matcoffidis1135
    @matcoffidis1135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I revisit this video on occasion. It NEVER disappoints. WHAT....A... PERFORMANCE.....
    And how can you not smile while watching it? 😁

  • @sebastian993
    @sebastian993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thing about Moon is he always made it look effortless. you listen to the outro of who are you on the original and it's amazing

  • @mattyc.9332
    @mattyc.9332 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I hope someone handed him a beer after that performance! Wow! Inspiring...🤘

  • @veloman59
    @veloman59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Terrific job - kit sounds absolutely amazing!

  • @kirkluettke5310
    @kirkluettke5310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    absolutely outstanding!!!!

  • @bruces6347
    @bruces6347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve never seen such a wooden crowd, they are devoid of all emotion. You sir are amazing. Near the insane brilliance that was Keith. But holy hell, tough crowd, we’re they awake.?

    • @myadetroit
      @myadetroit หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe they weren’t allowed to bring in phones and had no idea what to do with themselves. 😉

  • @martinclark8162
    @martinclark8162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome Steve -- have been watching and listening to 'Who are You' for over 40 years, you channeled Keith like no other I've ever seen, the only thing missing was the gaffer tape headband holding his headphones on. Privileged to have witnessed this clip - thank you Stephen and the Guitar Center -- from an old fart British 'ed banger living in Sydney.

  • @jhensley1974
    @jhensley1974 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could just sit and watch him play this for hours over and over again. So good and so dynamic. Kudos to the great Keith Moon for this astonishing work and Stephen Perkins for playing it equally astonishing.

  • @slanderbob415
    @slanderbob415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the MOST if not the MOST underrated drummers of all time. Steve!! You're fucking other wordly.

  • @int53185
    @int53185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As close as you could get to Moon's insanity. Great job!

  • @Carpythesharky
    @Carpythesharky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It was a pleasure to hear the extended version of this song. You rocked it! And at 3:13 you were going so hard you lost a cymbal :) Loved your reaction when it got put back up and you immediately showed it some more love.

  • @drummerup0012
    @drummerup0012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🤘 Cymbal Stand fallin over brought it ALL home for me!!!🤘🤘🤘
    Phuk YHA!!

  • @mattyboyscott
    @mattyboyscott 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HOW is this only watched 107,887 times!!??

  • @mygoodnessdarlin
    @mygoodnessdarlin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg be still my heart. The spirit and ethos of his drumming is epic.

  • @drummadave
    @drummadave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About 20-25 years I lived near the Hollywood Guitar Center. Went in to watch the Guitar Center drum-off competition. Perkins was one of the judges- i stood right behind him. We struck up a convo about drums, he even looked at me for my opinion a few times (just out of curiousity)....I cannot overstate what a supercool guy he was

    • @kevinn.5066
      @kevinn.5066 ปีที่แล้ว

      I knew him back in the day and you are absolutely correct, Stephen is a really great guy!

  • @stonesurfdog420
    @stonesurfdog420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first time I saw Jane's was in 1987 opening up for Love & Rockets. Perkins immediately caught my attention then and has not lost a step since. Dude is amazing!!! TOTALLY UNDERRATED AND UNDER APPRECIATED BY ROCK FANS.

    • @kevinn.5066
      @kevinn.5066 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw Jane’s a bunch of times in 88’ and 89’ and I could swear he had way more than just two arms, LOL!

  • @benitoguerrero3574
    @benitoguerrero3574 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the energy of Keith 🎉
    Wonderful!

  • @mike4619
    @mike4619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stephen Perkins has an intensity that is unmatched.

  • @mattalford389
    @mattalford389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yep. Stephen Perkins. One of the best

  • @gregorydamian4802
    @gregorydamian4802 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed!! Stephen Perkins is an incredible talent

  • @robsgarage4746
    @robsgarage4746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely brilliant performance! It was lunatic just like Mooney. Exciting drummer to watch perform.

  • @waynedickinson2096
    @waynedickinson2096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All I can say is AWESOME......

  • @stratboy518
    @stratboy518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fanf*ckingtastic. Perkins nailed it. Pandemic watching July 4 in Hawaii. Cheers all.

  • @Smknnfshn
    @Smknnfshn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goosebumps...great job Mr. Perkins.....Mooney goat

  • @5drum5
    @5drum5 12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Stephen rips!! Just saw him in concert with Jane's Addiction in Bakersfield, Ca. Awesome stuff!! The new album is nothing short of great! As it should be, different from old Jane's.

  • @muppetjnr2301
    @muppetjnr2301 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simply the most influential drummer. He shaped my approach to drums. Ego-free, creative, experimental original and technically brilliant

  • @jeffvan3632
    @jeffvan3632 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the best drummers out there!!!

  • @johnnymossville
    @johnnymossville ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Knocked over a cymbal and ripped your shirt. Yep, that's Keith Moon drumming!!!! Made my day!!!

  • @chrislaustin
    @chrislaustin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hell, I'm 13 years late to the party, but damn, what a party it was, dude, you F'ing killed it and then some. I've seen tons of Who covers over the years, and while some may get close on vocals, guitar, and even in some rare cases the bass, I've NEVER seen anyone come close on drums. And not just close, but to capture the ferociousness that was The Who in their prime, this clip will now be in my regular rotation.

  • @univox100
    @univox100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To be that deep inside of a skill where you can play with deadly precision while pouring on emotion that's absolutely feral has to be the greatest feeling on earth.

  • @Oogadoog
    @Oogadoog 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In my book, the greatest drummer that ever lived. As an entirety of a person and skill, and understanding, and feeling the music and driving it beyond what is often even comprehensible. All I can see from his playing is straight up love it and a brilliance of space and timing. F'ing redicuous.

  • @SmokedTails
    @SmokedTails 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy freakin' crap! I'm sweating at the end. Great job, Mr. Perkins. What a jam...

  • @davehaller6477
    @davehaller6477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Killed it! Love Perkins tribal drumming.

  • @weenss
    @weenss 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this guy feels the music. what an interesting drummer, both in presence and play style; i could watch him rocking out for hours

  • @jamisbillson4872
    @jamisbillson4872 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great drummer. His Porno for a Pyros drumming is insanely good.

  • @michaelgeinopolos6911
    @michaelgeinopolos6911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perkins will definitely go down as one of the greatest to ever live

  • @rodolfojamesdebarros2263
    @rodolfojamesdebarros2263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amo the who!!!!
    Melhor banda de rock do mundo!!!
    Tenho 63 anos de idade, curto o The who desde 1970, portanto, tem só cinquenta anos q eu assisto The Who!!!!
    Eu não canso de ouvir everyday!!!!!
    Cedo, à tarde e à noite!!!!
    FUI NO ROCK IN RIO!!!
    Baba O'riley
    A quick one....
    Behind blue eyes!!!
    Magic bus...
    Who are you...

  • @InService77
    @InService77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perkins playing Moon... bliss

  • @aliza9608
    @aliza9608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic

  • @garse70
    @garse70 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Moon did everything backwards. He really follows the vocals throughout the song. Lots of fills in the verse, tightens up the chorus, when most drummers do the opposite. I think this video shows how complex this drum part really is.

  • @peytongivens5223
    @peytongivens5223 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I listen to this video every week

  • @ignatiusjk
    @ignatiusjk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent, awesome energy and technically very sound.

  • @hammurds
    @hammurds ปีที่แล้ว

    This may be the best cover of this song I have ever heard

  • @demiris65
    @demiris65 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! Fabulous performance!

  • @NicksMovieMix
    @NicksMovieMix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    every hit....serves...the tune.....Bravo !!

  • @5drum5
    @5drum5 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a life!! You can feel that Stephen loves drumming!! "Passion" pass it on!

  • @XPHALCON
    @XPHALCON 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hats off (no pun intended) to you for covering the "lost verse" version. Maestro.

  • @Platos-Den
    @Platos-Den 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a big MOON fan🤪.Very well done.! 🇨🇦

  • @biff0101
    @biff0101 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Moon would love it! Great job on a real classic!

  • @GearGasms
    @GearGasms 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this drum part so much - I always think how much more killer playing he could have gifted us with. Nice job!

  • @HarryGambardella
    @HarryGambardella 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing!! Great job!

  • @harrykadaras9459
    @harrykadaras9459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This guy is fantastic...what's amazing is Moon played those drums when he was in the worst shape of his life - and still played his a$$ off...

  • @mikearguello6604
    @mikearguello6604 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are great and made it way better! You did miss however the feel of him. Not bad not good. It works for me because I hear exactly what you played and respectfully good! Cheers!

  • @phylodude
    @phylodude 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow... You killed this!!!!!! I just saw this and dayhem.

  • @guanoguy4800
    @guanoguy4800 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeez that's badass. I paid attention to both of these guys back when I drummed. So good.

  • @jameswood4344
    @jameswood4344 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I love -- apart from Perkins' drumming -- is that even as he's doing his rolls and going crazy, you can hear, underneath, that Moonie's doing twice as many rolling fills on his toms.

  • @javiervargas9392
    @javiervargas9392 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why I love drums👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @jamesdunlevie3362
    @jamesdunlevie3362 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that was phenomenal. Total commitment to the part. I am a new fan

  • @valerieannshort7109
    @valerieannshort7109 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His discussion highlights his in-depth insight into music theory and listening. He’s very in tune with his surroundings.

  • @yomamma88
    @yomamma88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw him do a clinic in '99 or '00 and was very inspired. Very cool guy and amazing drummer!