I think the Farina shape was from Italy/France. Great motoring history. Forget the faults and shape etc. It’s part of our motoring history and should be cherished. Can you watch this and not envy those wonderful times and people?
It was from Italy. Farina is from the Italian design house “Pininfarina” It only became a “French” shape in the Peugeot 404 after the BMC cars came out.
Great cars those Farina designed models. In the early 1960s they were very popular as taxis around here. They could take five passenger's and the driver of course. Great family cars as well I would imagine.
To Bruce Gibbons. Our family had the choice in the 60's, at a used car dealer , between the MG and the Morris Oxford versions. We all wanted the even more stylish MG, with its separate looking rear seats, so 4 armchairs, to look at. But, although only 5 years old, the MG already had serious rust issues. (They just didn't have enough experience in those days, of finding what anti rust measures worked best). So it was the Morris, then. THAT turned out to be a SUPREMELY comfortable car - in the FRONT. THAT had a BENCH seat, with padding that was TWICE as deep, as on separate seats, because there were only 2 seat runners - one at either end of the bench, not 4 in total, on 2 separate seats. This allowed more unrestricted depth to the base if the seat, right down to the floor. Most comfortable car we ever owned! And these medium sized Farina cars ALL had distinct appearances, to reflect being a pooled effort between the different makers.E.G. traditional Wolseley, and more contemporary Austin's. The 1100/1300 series ALSO had distinct looks, on the MG, Wolseley, Riley models. HOWEVER, the Austin and Morris versions, just looked like each other! "COULD TRY HARDER", as their "school report" might say!
The Farina bodies were originally sold here in Austin, Morris and Wolsey versions. Then a 6 cylinder version of the B series engine was designed and put into the old bodies - but this time without the Morris version. The 6 cylinder version was introduced to compete with Holden, Ford Falcon and Chrysler Valiant. Never a big seller, as the styling was old-fashioned compared to the others.
I'm 18 and am buying a Wolseley 1500 from 1958 tomorrow. Don't worry it'll be in good hands I already own and maintain a JBA falcon as my daily drive, and I plan to slowly restore the Wolseley while working through my motor sports degree at university.
Lochlandb. Well, I myself am not 18 now - but I USED TO BE, if that's any good! Around the time of such cars. I think you show great individuality in buying something different, of your OWN choosing!
Never did like the Farina shape. At the moment I am in the process of renovating one of the last pre Farina's , a 1958 Wolseley 14/56 . Replacing the tired 1500 B series with a later 1800 twin carb from a MGB, along with the front clip to uprate the brakes and steering, but I am keeping the body and interior as original as possible. The colour will be Jaguar Regency red, with cream leather. This old car is a labour of love.
@@Mr-millen He was thinking of selling but we’ve decided not to. It’s in decent condition and we don’t need any parts at the minute. Thanks for asking though! 👍
Farina was only putting a little US style into what was popular at the time, I'm Aussie born 1951 my dad was really proud of his English heritage and only drove pommy cars, I liked the big US cars & still do, now I would like to admit some of his cars were great, Rover 100, Austin a95 Westminster, Wousally 99 with overdrive..
more reliable than the stuff they make now, with their stupid engine managment computers that keep going wrong, annoying EGR valves that stick causing you to stall at the lights etc. Give me a Wolsely any day!
@@nygelmiller5293 EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) valves recirculate exhaust gases at certain times to re-enter combustion cylinders to reduce production of nitrogen oxides and also keep combustion temperatures lower. But over time they get clogged up with soot and carbon causing them to fail which can result in the valve being stuck open causing engine to stall at low RPM or when you take your foot off the gas pedal. This can be dangerous at busy junctions and roundabouts suddenly stalling and losing all power including steering. They’ve been used in cars (petrol and diesel) from about the mid 1990s.
To Elpaso from Nygel Miller.Thanks for replying! I agree with you about engine design, the engine bay, even years ago, on my Vauxhall Carlton, was packed out with gadgets. It's not JUST the engine anymore, like on the first Mini. The bonnet of the Carlton was surely long ENOUGH without all the gadgets, that made servicing/repairing a long haul effort - trying to reach everything - WITH SPECIAL TOOLS. Engines are no longer designed to function AS ENGINES, there are other considerations such as pollution. The two things are at loggerheads! Roll on electric and hydrogen cars, that won't need all the gadgets to pass emission tests!
I am a serious vandal! A murderer even. Certainly one who's cringing from the crime! I raced a Wolseley 1500 in banger racing at Pott Row Norfolk in the 1970s. There was nothing wrong with it. It was a lovely little car in perfect condition. I shall take the guilt to my grave! Why on earth couldn't I have found a bloody FORD!!
That Farina shape has dated badly. Far too upright and way too narrow. Put a contemporary Jaguar next to one and you’ll soon see what I mean! Sir William Lyons’ natural sense of line and style worked, while these Farinas were a fad that faded...
You have to keep in mind, though, that Jaguar cars were considered to be for "spivs" back then. The same set that would buy a BMW or an Audi today. The Farina saloons (especially the Vanden Plas version) were meant for someone who just wanted a quality, dignified car without all the flash. That appeals to me much more.
MG MAGNETTE FARINA -- one of M Go's most stylish cars!
I recall as a child that these cars looked old to me even when they were new.
good programme , remember watching it, when it came out .
I think the Farina shape was from Italy/France. Great motoring history. Forget the faults and shape etc. It’s part of our motoring history and should be cherished. Can you watch this and not envy those wonderful times and people?
It was from Italy. Farina is from the Italian design house “Pininfarina”
It only became a “French” shape in the Peugeot 404 after the BMC cars came out.
Doesn't miss the gate post by much at 1:12.
Beautiful and touching vedio on a british car with bmc..brgds
Great cars those Farina designed models. In the early 1960s they were very popular as taxis around here. They could take five passenger's and the driver of course. Great family cars as well I would imagine.
To Bruce Gibbons. Our family had the choice in the 60's, at a used car dealer , between the MG and the Morris Oxford versions. We all wanted the even more stylish MG, with its separate looking rear seats, so 4 armchairs, to look at. But, although only 5 years old, the MG already had serious rust issues. (They just didn't have enough experience in those days, of finding what anti rust measures worked best). So it was the Morris, then. THAT turned out to be a SUPREMELY comfortable car - in the FRONT. THAT had a BENCH seat, with padding that was TWICE as deep, as on separate seats, because there were only 2 seat runners - one at either end of the bench, not 4 in total, on 2 separate seats. This allowed more unrestricted depth to the base if the seat, right down to the floor. Most comfortable car we ever owned! And these medium sized Farina cars ALL had distinct appearances, to reflect being a pooled effort between the different makers.E.G. traditional Wolseley, and more contemporary Austin's. The 1100/1300 series ALSO had distinct looks, on the MG, Wolseley, Riley models. HOWEVER, the Austin and Morris versions, just looked like each other! "COULD TRY HARDER", as their "school report" might say!
Lovely lovely people 😌
The Farina bodies were originally sold here in Austin, Morris and Wolsey versions. Then a 6 cylinder version of the B series engine was designed and put into the old bodies - but this time without the Morris version. The 6 cylinder version was introduced to compete with Holden, Ford Falcon and Chrysler Valiant. Never a big seller, as the styling was old-fashioned compared to the others.
I'm 18 and am buying a Wolseley 1500 from 1958 tomorrow.
Don't worry it'll be in good hands I already own and maintain a JBA falcon as my daily drive, and I plan to slowly restore the Wolseley while working through my motor sports degree at university.
How did it go with the Wolseley?
Good on ya!
Lochlandb. Well, I myself am not 18 now - but I USED TO BE, if that's any good! Around the time of such cars. I think you show great individuality in buying something different, of your OWN choosing!
BMC and British Leyland are much important.
Never did like the Farina shape. At the moment I am in the process of renovating one of the last pre Farina's , a 1958 Wolseley 14/56 . Replacing the tired 1500 B series with a later 1800 twin carb from a MGB, along with the front clip to uprate the brakes and steering, but I am keeping the body and interior as original as possible. The colour will be Jaguar Regency red, with cream leather. This old car is a labour of love.
fred grove sorry your car is not a 14/56 they were 1930s cars
Luckily enough Morris marinas all came with a complimentary bus timetable,,
Alan O'Connor. Well many cars in those days were of a less thorough standard in those times. Our Marina and Morris Ital WERE okay!
Banger Racing; lowest common denominator.
They were the cars to have in banger racing along with the bigger 6 pot farina- but I always
Preferred the P5 rover and still do to this day
My dad has a P5B
@@freddieparrydrums does he want to sell it or does he need any bits for it 😎
@@Mr-millen He was thinking of selling but we’ve decided not to. It’s in decent condition and we don’t need any parts at the minute. Thanks for asking though! 👍
@@freddieparrydrums Ive got 11 of them but I race the ones that can’t be saved 👍
@@Mr-millen Wow, that’s a lot of P5’s! At least the ones that can’t be saved are still enjoyed 👍
Boomers and their wonderful memories of the swinging sixties. I guess we’ll never see another generation that had so much “enjoyment”…..
Farina was only putting a little US style into what was popular at the time, I'm Aussie born 1951 my dad was really proud of his English heritage and only drove pommy cars, I liked the big US cars & still do, now I would like to admit some of his cars were great, Rover 100, Austin a95 Westminster, Wousally 99 with overdrive..
No, indeed. Smart ass racing off down the road in their BMW while texting no doubt!
GJG 655 Morris Oxford is sorn'ed hope it sees the road again soon
more reliable than the stuff they make now, with their stupid engine managment computers that keep going wrong, annoying EGR valves that stick causing you to stall at the lights etc.
Give me a Wolsely any day!
Oh hell yeah!! Would love to own a Wolseley Hornet (Mini) but with Riley Elf's gorgeous decorative wooden dashboard!!
To EL PASO what does EGR valves mean?
@@nygelmiller5293 EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) valves recirculate exhaust gases at certain times to re-enter combustion cylinders to reduce production of nitrogen oxides and also keep combustion temperatures lower. But over time they get clogged up with soot and carbon causing them to fail which can result in the valve being stuck open causing engine to stall at low RPM or when you take your foot off the gas pedal. This can be dangerous at busy junctions and roundabouts suddenly stalling and losing all power including steering.
They’ve been used in cars (petrol and diesel) from about the mid 1990s.
To Elpaso from Nygel Miller.Thanks for replying! I agree with you about engine design, the engine bay, even years ago, on my Vauxhall Carlton, was packed out with gadgets. It's not JUST the engine anymore, like on the first Mini. The bonnet of the Carlton was surely long ENOUGH without all the gadgets, that made servicing/repairing a long haul effort - trying to reach everything - WITH SPECIAL TOOLS. Engines are no longer designed to function AS ENGINES, there are other considerations such as pollution. The two things are at loggerheads! Roll on electric and hydrogen cars, that won't need all the gadgets to pass emission tests!
The fins on the Farina models remind me of the Peugeot 404. : )
It was designed by the same man
VinnyDaQ ...and came later. Bloody good car though the 404
my late dad had the Morris Marina Estate
I don't know when the original programme was made but good to see that GJG655 is still recorded by DVLA as being taxed.
burman and still now in 2019!!
It was sold recently at auction.
I am a serious vandal! A murderer even. Certainly one who's cringing from the crime! I raced a Wolseley 1500 in banger racing at Pott Row Norfolk in the 1970s. There was nothing wrong with it. It was a lovely little car in perfect condition. I shall take the guilt to my grave! Why on earth couldn't I have found a bloody FORD!!
Poor car :(
Does anyone know the name of the piano piece that starts at 1:26?
Morris Minor 100 forever!
Cant by a British saloon now!!!
wonderfull
Hmm. 1516FD the Wolseley 1500 is now registered to a Porsche 911. Sad.
Did that lady get into the front of that car with her baby?
What a strange accent this man has. Sounds English with a touch of Italian or something. Listen carefully.
Neil Aspinall which? The chap with the 1500? It’s the southern coastal Welsh accent. Ironed out with a fair bit of English living...
That Farina shape has dated badly. Far too upright and way too narrow. Put a contemporary Jaguar next to one and you’ll soon see what I mean! Sir William Lyons’ natural sense of line and style worked, while these Farinas were a fad that faded...
You have to keep in mind, though, that Jaguar cars were considered to be for "spivs" back then. The same set that would buy a BMW or an Audi today. The Farina saloons (especially the Vanden Plas version) were meant for someone who just wanted a quality, dignified car without all the flash. That appeals to me much more.
More reliable than modern stuff, you must be buying the wrong stuff! No way.
Ah BMC,shiny new box,same old crap under the bonnet.
Old? Yes. Crap? No, not by a long shot. That A-series lump was produced as long as it was for good reason.
@@jakekaywell5972 except its a B series lump
All very ugly cars
In your opinion. I happen to think most of them are good designs.