@@MikeJones-oe3do Indeed Mike, but as apple merges the ipad and desktop world more and more over the next few years I don't think they'll have as much of an issue with it in the future as they might now.
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I use Ipad pro and cubasis 3. U can’t have as many tracks as with computer it start to crash but for me it is good to not have over 14 tracks it makes mixing very hard anyways but I think the power is not enough for real pros. But usability and workflow is good when travelling. Apps are getting better every day also.
What is the best one to use for me I am on Ios 14.4. I have got final touch. although it works alright apart from the odd crackling sound. I can't download it again as I wanted to reinstall it again. as it's not on the app store anymore.?
@@MobileMusicPro that was a quick reply lol. that's a shame because I think final touch is probably really the best one out there. I haven't tried that one yet but I will give it a go. Thank you 👍
Hey man, just getting into recording with the Cubasis and your vids are a massive help. One thing I don’t think you’ve covered is about using multiple outputs. Say I want to be able to send a mix to a set to headphones or a monitor while recording the main mix.For instance a guitarist might want to hear themselves and the base more with less of the drums and vocals. Is there a way to do this? I’m guessing it might have something to do with groups but can’t get my head round it 🙄 I’m waiting on a 8 track interface thats got plenty of outputs so want to make use of them :)
Hey dave. That's correct we haven't covered that yet as my interface is only a 2i2. But yes you can certainly output specific tracks to multiple stereo outputs but I don't think you can output the entire mix to multiple outputs from just within Cubasis. You may have to use a combination of Cubasis and AUM, it would take some experimenting with inputs and outputs but it should be possible, and fun :)
Well these are mastering apps. The mastering process is the very last step after the project has been mixed. The best mixing plugins can be found in mixbox and fabfilter apps.
HEY BRO!!! Ive been using final touch for a couple of years now and the app is not working! i dont know why but it closes for no reason.... do you know if is just me or is a common thing? Cheers!!
Sadly the best app Final Touch is no longer available to us who updated our devices! Which we’ve been told to do, but I went to the site and they are no longer updating the app
These stand alone mastering apps are meant to replicate the real mastering process so therefore if you are planning on using them you'd need to prep your production accordingly which means removing any master strip and limiter plugins on the master channel in cubasis and giving yourself a good -6db of headroom.
It's really all in how you use the app, some would argue some of these might be better than the master strip but I could probably find someone that could use the master strip better than someone else might be able to use one of these apps. Mastering is very subjective.
Because if you work on just making the quiet parts loud then the loud parts will end up being too loud, so you want to first always start with the loud parts.
@@MobileMusicPro i don't know much about mastering, so anything I say is just my brain guessing. If you do it in parts then I would Imagine having to go back and forth to not have jumpy volume. Isn't that what compressors are for. I am confused about that. Also it's not only about loudness. One question I have is what about when you want uneven loudness. You might want a certain part to get louder and louder for effect. I suppose the musician can not just send the song to be mastered without explaining his/her ideas for the tracks. What the mastering guy thinks might screw up the goal,if the musician as far as what the song is supposed to sound like. That's why mastering engineers have to be very smart. You don't just follow simple mastering rules. Every song is different.
@@perrypelican9476 That is correct you'd have to go back and forth between quiet and loud but not too much, if you get the loud right then the quiet should be fine IF the production was good. If there are uneven parts that's not fixed in the mastering process that's fixed in the production process.
@@jess_palm Well the M4A is the compressed version kind of like an mp3, so at some point you'll still need the high quality WAV version if you want to upload it to a streaming site.
@@MobileMusicPro sir what i mean to say is this: all the apps you have told in the video, all these apps in our mi note 9pro mobile Can I download and whenever I click on your links then there is no download option sir please tell me how to do mix mastering in my mobile please tell me any app Apart from this, I have Fl studio mobile, tell me any other app that can do mix mastering. Please sirr please
@@sejalmalhotra5245 Hey Dheeraj, it sounds like you have an android device and this entire channel and all the apps we talk about are for iOS because android devices were not designed to process real time audio and are not compatible with apples AUv3 standard. So the first step is to get an iOS device, then I'd recommend using Cubasis as it is capable of production, mixing and mastering :)
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Very good info- im a firm believer that ipads are taking over
Thanks! Totally agree :)
Only if Apple allows it, it’ll cut into their Mac revenue
@@MikeJones-oe3do Indeed Mike, but as apple merges the ipad and desktop world more and more over the next few years I don't think they'll have as much of an issue with it in the future as they might now.
I use Ipad pro and cubasis 3. U can’t have as many tracks as with computer it start to crash but for me it is good to not have over 14 tracks it makes mixing very hard anyways but I think the power is not enough for real pros. But usability and workflow is good when travelling. Apps are getting better every day also.
They have the best work flow
Hey Vortex, just checking on you, hope you’re well!
Appreciate you! Had to step back due to family obligations.
@@MobileMusicPro all good family first prayers man
Final touch hasn’t been updated in three years. Is it dead? Tried today with IOS15 and it had constant crashes.
I haven't tried it with iOS 15 just yet, this video was made with iOS 13 or 14 I believe.
Mine just started crashing also.. have you heard anything?
@@hittlabb Sadly, no.
@@hittlabb Seems to me, it’s been removed from the Appstore now. I guess that’s it, then.
Let's go!
I adore final touch. Unfortunately it is no longer supported for iOS 16 devices and it looks like Positive Grid has no intention of updating the app.
Ahh sorry to hear that. Personally I'm not fond of apps that don't support AUv3 so I've moved on to Grand Finale 2.
What is the best one to use for me I am on Ios 14.4. I have got final touch. although it works alright apart from the odd crackling sound. I can't download it again as I wanted to reinstall it again. as it's not on the app store anymore.?
Grand Finale has gotten an awesome upgrade in the form of Grand Finale 2, it's now AUV3 so it can use it directly in your DAW on the master track.
@@MobileMusicPro that was a quick reply lol. that's a shame because I think final touch is probably really the best one out there. I haven't tried that one yet but I will give it a go. Thank you 👍
Hey man, just getting into recording with the Cubasis and your vids are a massive help. One thing I don’t think you’ve covered is about using multiple outputs. Say I want to be able to send a mix to a set to headphones or a monitor while recording the main mix.For instance a guitarist might want to hear themselves and the base more with less of the drums and vocals. Is there a way to do this? I’m guessing it might have something to do with groups but can’t get my head round it 🙄 I’m waiting on a 8 track interface thats got plenty of outputs so want to make use of them :)
Hey dave. That's correct we haven't covered that yet as my interface is only a 2i2. But yes you can certainly output specific tracks to multiple stereo outputs but I don't think you can output the entire mix to multiple outputs from just within Cubasis. You may have to use a combination of Cubasis and AUM, it would take some experimenting with inputs and outputs but it should be possible, and fun :)
Great video. As I mainly focus on mastering, now I am thrilled to try it on the iPad. Cheers.
Thanks RJ!
Are these good for mixing vocals?
Well these are mastering apps. The mastering process is the very last step after the project has been mixed. The best mixing plugins can be found in mixbox and fabfilter apps.
HEY BRO!!! Ive been using final touch for a couple of years now and the app is not working! i dont know why but it closes for no reason.... do you know if is just me or is a common thing? Cheers!!
Not sure on that one you'd have to contact the dev.
@@MobileMusicPro thanks bro. I just did that. I hope they can fix it! Cheers and thanks for the response.
Thanks Vortex...
This is a well done comparison. A big thanks from Hamburg Germany.
You're very welcome Mario! Lots more content on the channel like this :)
Damn, you can start talking without moving your mouth 😁
Hah trying out some new video editing techniques but turns out after the final render I'm not much of a fan of this technique.
Final touch doesn’t show on my App Store for iPhone 🤔 maybe you can help me how ever I did also like grand finale as for lurss not so tuff
Highly recommend Grand Finale 2 as it's now AUv3.
Sadly the best app Final Touch is no longer available to us who updated our devices! Which we’ve been told to do, but I went to the site and they are no longer updating the app
So, when you use one of these stand alone mastering apps, would you then still apply the master strip in cubasis prior?? Thanks.
These stand alone mastering apps are meant to replicate the real mastering process so therefore if you are planning on using them you'd need to prep your production accordingly which means removing any master strip and limiter plugins on the master channel in cubasis and giving yourself a good -6db of headroom.
Do you think the Cubasis 3 master strip is as good as these other Apps ?
It's really all in how you use the app, some would argue some of these might be better than the master strip but I could probably find someone that could use the master strip better than someone else might be able to use one of these apps. Mastering is very subjective.
Excellent video Vortex, keep it up brother 🙂
Thanks Alan!
Great comparison video. 👍🏾
Thanks Gladys :)
yeah but how do I put music in a folder so i can pull it up on the app so i can use the iphone app to edit mixes in my car?
You would use the files app in the iPhone or iPad to import, copy and delete files on the device.
We do have a video on importing files here :) th-cam.com/video/4Dt4JOo1tg0/w-d-xo.html
Lovely video, Vortex!
Thanks Emiel :)
Curious, why only take loud parts of songs?
Because if you work on just making the quiet parts loud then the loud parts will end up being too loud, so you want to first always start with the loud parts.
@@MobileMusicPro i don't know much about mastering, so anything I say is just my brain guessing. If you do it in parts then I would Imagine having to go back and forth to not have jumpy volume. Isn't that what compressors are for. I am confused about that. Also it's not only about loudness.
One question I have is what about when you want uneven loudness. You might want a certain part to get louder and louder for effect.
I suppose the musician can not just send the song to be mastered without explaining his/her ideas for the tracks. What the mastering guy thinks might screw up the goal,if the musician as far as what the song is supposed to sound like. That's why mastering engineers have to be very smart. You don't just follow simple mastering rules. Every song is different.
@@perrypelican9476 That is correct you'd have to go back and forth between quiet and loud but not too much, if you get the loud right then the quiet should be fine IF the production was good. If there are uneven parts that's not fixed in the mastering process that's fixed in the production process.
Finaltouch. Not in usa account appel. ❓
I’m trying to use grand finale, but when I export it as a WAV, there’s either nothing in the file, or I get “audio render error.” Any tips?
Oh wow that's a tough one, have you recently updated your iOS?
@@MobileMusicPro I'm on version 15.3.1
@@MobileMusicPro never mind I figured it out! It works if I export from Cubasis as an m4a instead of wav, if you wanted to know the fix.
@@jess_palm Yah that's a tough one, you may have to report that to the developer directly, here's their email: support@klevgrand.se
@@jess_palm Well the M4A is the compressed version kind of like an mp3, so at some point you'll still need the high quality WAV version if you want to upload it to a streaming site.
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Can i download in mobile (means app)???
Not sure what you are asking but we have the links to each one of these apps in the description.
@@MobileMusicPro sir what i mean to say is this: all the apps you have told in the video, all these apps in our mi note 9pro mobile Can I download and whenever I click on your links then there is no download option sir please tell me how to do mix mastering in my mobile please tell me any app Apart from this, I have Fl studio mobile, tell me any other app that can do mix mastering.
Please sirr please
@@sejalmalhotra5245 Hey Dheeraj, it sounds like you have an android device and this entire channel and all the apps we talk about are for iOS because android devices were not designed to process real time audio and are not compatible with apples AUv3 standard. So the first step is to get an iOS device, then I'd recommend using Cubasis as it is capable of production, mixing and mastering :)