Timestamps: 0:00 | Introduction 4:44 | Dr. Jud Lake: All modern SDA critics are D.M. Canright parrots?! 16:33 | SDA Scholar Claim 1: Steve Daily used to praise Ellen White, what happened? 26:06 | SDA Scholar Claim 2: Steve Daily is a bad historian who selectively cites sources? 37:40 | SDA Scholar Claim 3: Ellen White's plagiarism issues have already been dealt with? 49:14 | SDA Scholar Claim 4: Steve Daily wrongfully judges inner motives? 53:56 | SDA Scholar Claim 5: Steve Daily is bitter and bias? 1:00:07 | SDA Scholar Claim 6: Steve Daily's book has a dark shadow over it? 1:05:51 | What was Ellen White's "Big Lie?" 1:08:33 | Ellen claimed time would never again be a test and Steve is lying? 1:17:57 | Who was D.M. Canright? 1:31:36 | Ellen White's claim about Canright... 1:38:07 | Who was Carrie Johnson and was was her "Big Lie?" 1:56:09 | SDA Apologist: "All of Steve's claims are easily refuted?" 1:59:22 | Strongest evidence Carrie Johnson never even knew Canright? 2:08:39 | Who was Norman Douty? 2:16:25 | Post-1888 Adventism is grace focused and not legalistic? 2:32:55 | Arthur & Willie White's role in the "Big Lie" 2:37:11 | What was the 1919 Bible Conference 2:43:27 | The Bible writers plagiarized so it's ok Ellen White did?! 2:49:15 | What role did F.D. Nichol play in covering up the "Big Lie?" 2:53:37 | SDA Claim: "Contemporary Ellen White critics never engage F.D. Nichol!" 3:00:54 | SDA Claim: "Dale Ratzlaff doesn't understand post-1888 Adventism!" 3:10:50 | D.M. Canright's view of the Law 3:13:56 | What is Ellen White's legacy? 3:17:22 | Final thoughts & Sign off
Frankly I don't even know why the straw man, I am challenging your lie at timestamp 1:18 about the euphemism. You have inserted your opinion at the beginning of the stream and imposed an opinion on over 22 million plus people and want to pretend you have evidence that has nothing to do with your opinion. You also attempt to obfuscate the issues surrounding that nonsense being challenge and pretend is now pretending that there is a dichotomy between being rational and experiencing emotion. Was Jesus' assertion in Matt 21:12-13 untrue because he was experiencing an emotion? Fool others not me, I am seeing the resentment from both you and Mr Daily and violation of the 9th commandment from you.
@@terrygreenman1540 I don't follow EG White neither do I follow John or Luke, I follow Jesus who they are suppose to lift up. I do accept the scripture as authoritative as taught in the Bible 2 Timothy 3:16-17
@@iteradveritatis4233 You kind of repeated yourself in 2 different messages. Do you know there is over 177 years of disappointment going on? And still counting.
Just came out in December, was only in for two years. I found it to be very mentally abusive. EGW writings were awful in not being able to live up to all the demands. So glad to be free.
Truth is not meant to be a threat. It is an invitation and an offer of victory. The threat is our fallen nature. God promise is an invitation and an offer to total victory. If the Holy Spirit comes to show me my true condition. It is not to condemn me. But to offer to change me. We all need to see what needs to change. I praise God when he shows me my condition. For I know He is doing that at the same time as He is offering me victory.
I was raised in this evil cult. Let me tell you, it's still very much connected to the Freemasons and destroyed my life.They worship egw, nothing else.
43:50 Ford tried to do the exact same thing and change the church, but unless the writings of Ellen G White are disregarded, the church will never be reformed, it will never be revised, or put in question to be reasoned with. Just look at how Timm is tap dancing his way while defending his "prophetess". Its embarrassing. No honest Christian will look critically at her writing and objectively deal with both accusations and defenses and conclude she was a prophet of God.
It is now obvious that 7th day Adventists I left after completing my grade 10 back in 1985, even at my younger age I realized that scriptures seems to be misrepresented. Thanks so much for opening up the Cann of warms
Im so glad that there are a few people like you out there talking about the falsehoods of the 7th day Adventists i left about 3 years ago and have lost my entire family and is hard to find a church to go to because of the trama i experienced from this church please keep up the lords work no matter what the advinists who are still lost say you are actually helping people find the truth and the way out
Ellen G. White never claimed to be a prophet she would get inspiration and instructions from her trances her wrings were mostly about healthful living and abstinence from common practices back then that were harmful for you like sugar smoking other things I can't remember right now her work was pleadgerised not what these people are saying that guest with all his degrees to read the Bible all those degrees and expertise Don't mean anything against G-D's word she only had a 10th grade education but she was ins pired by G-D thus host and guest need to read the 10 commandments sunday is the 1st day of the week read also Genesis G-D rested on the seventh day a and sansantify it and made it holy the sabbath was changed by Romans not by G-D I urge those people who commented to go back to the Bible not somebody with all those degrees if i was him id throw them in the trash😂
University Degrees do not impress me as a matter of fact all these universities are the ones responsible for the chaotic and stupidity that is flourishing in our day Amen😢
@@yonasiseth2631Someone ask a good question and yes, before anyone ask yes I'm an Adventist and I wasn't always a sda. I didn't grew up in the church. But I just wish I had found this church earlier in my walk to find truth in God's word. The sda are very nice people, I had my critics before about this church and ask a lot of why's?? I see the pattern here just like in my local church, and that's because some were not spending deep time in the word of God..Jesus is coming guys to take his bride home and I believe everyone should be ready. But when someone ask the q what has the church done to you? I had to comment and say something about my own experience: 1. Members who left the church left it because they were hurt by someone in the church. 2. Many did not experience the love from others as they should....as the bible states "to love one another❤" 3. Others just didn't study the bible.."here a little and there a little" to understand the words God of for themself..they just relied on there own thinking of the bible and didn't ask the Holy Spirit to lead them to all truth. 4. When I came I didn't know much about Ellen White, but I was fascinated about how she knew the word of God so well when they quoted her..one day I told a member of sda church who also was taking the same bible class... to show me this woman Ellen White, tell me where she's at so that I can go and visit her..yes I literally said that. Never knew that she died many years ago. I saw this lack of understanding of some members in the sda of how to study her writing which was inspired by God. There is no way a child with a grade like her would know the thinks she knew and write books in health that helped many people with cancer, blood pressure, sugar problems here in my country Suriname. Humanly is not possible unless she was inspired by God. What I'm saying is if you study the bible you will understand her writings which simply points or magnifies the greater "light" the Word of God...I came to understand more about things like: -The character of God -How someone can be saved. -State of the death I had a different view of Gods character before I started studying his word with sda and I also had a different view of the state of the death You must understand that I came from a dark place, from necromancy group, from ancestors worship, fromcliving for Satan. Untill I was saved by Christ Jesus. All the above is my own experience..I thank God for revealing this to me by the power of his Holy Spirit. HH
Good luck in finding a church outside of the SDA Church ! They're pretty much all apostate churches who believe and teach that we only need to keep nine of God's 10 commandments. They also accept spiritualism by believing that , when we die , we either go to heaven or to hell . The Bible, however, clearly teaches that we rest or sleep, unconsciously, in the grave until the second coming . Also, the Lord tells us , in Leviticus , that certain foods such as pigs are unclean ; but pork is a big delicacy on the tables of most Christians outside of the SDA Church ! So we need to compare the lifestyle of the church's teachings with the church of the first century. There are also many other teachings that will identify a false church as well.
The biggest problem affecting Adventism is spiritual pride. A reluctance to accept the fact that our pioneers were wrong on some major biblical issues. Instead, we stonewall, do theological gymnastics, and text bending, in order to fit the word of God into Adventism, rather than fit Adventism into the word of God. Adventism is ruled by eisegesis. There's a spirit of intellectual dishonesty amongst our theologians; not all, but too many. All the lies, deceptions, cover-ups and dishonesty will one day come to nought. May God help the genuine truth seekers in Adventism to find the true Gospel.
Praises and glory to the lamb,thank you Myles and Steve to keep the true gospel flame continues on... Myles I'm impressed by your courage to be on the Frontline to protect the gospel of Jesus Christ and support the foundation of 5 epistles of apostle Paul given by revelation of Jesus Christ to clarify the new covernant gospel,grace and faith,the true spiritual connection we have with Christ Jesus.. Jesus Christ has already summarized it in John 14:6 IAM the way the only truth and the life no man goes to the father but through me....NO MAN GOES THROUGH THE WORKS OF THE LAW SHALL BE SAFE,BUT ONLY THROUGH THE WORKS OF JESUS CHRIST, SALVATION IS FOUND THROUGH HIM JESUS.... CONDEMNATION IS FOUND THROUGH THE WORKS OF THE LAW...SDA MUST UNDERSTAND.... AND STOP MIXING UP GOSPEL AND THE LAW..
I left SDA nearly 2 years ago. My husband is a Lutheran and when I told him all the crazy things about EGW and the false doctrine of this church he immediately called it out. He called them charlatans. It’s hard when you’re raised into this cult because you are programmed into believing without any questioning all the things they teach. God bless all to find the true Jesus.
Well, they do not let it come so far to be critical. If you criticize you are on the wrong path. And the members are talking behind held out hand about you. I grew up in SDA in the 1960th in Europe. Austria/ Vienna. EG White and the Bible were used to bring us on track, even as small children. I left them when I was about 19 years old. It is still making me uneasy, and I think I am traumatized. There was nobody all this years I could talk about it.
Sorry you feel that way. Definitely not a cult ..You can critical but I've been observing them for years as orthodox. I can't find any evidence that they are cult.
We do not need EGW nor her interpretations of Scriptures to know God and find salvation in Christ. Remember this our salvation is the work of God the Father, the Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. Thats is all you need.
I grew up in the church. I was beat up with egw sayings the whole time. It's not easy to break away from the sda church. I question everything now. Is it biblical or is it a egw thing. Plus you can not take your questions to pastors or other sda. I just want Bible truth. I have had conversations with people and every comment is ew says this or that. What does the Bible say. I guess my question is where to go to church?
Hi Dorothy-I relate to your question of where to go to church after leaving the SDA church-I visited numerous churches and attended a Baptist church for awhile. Now I’m 85 and my”church “ is some excellent TH-cam pastors messages and learn a lot! God bless you in your journey!❤
I know Nancy and have listened to her directly about some of her experiences as a child regarding her grandmother. I find it abominable that my own family members still believe these lies told about Canright and how they hold the EGW family in such esteem. They need a good lesson in logic, although I don't know if that would even help, because they don't want to believe they have been believing a lie all this time.
What about the pope, isn't it the same thing. Nobody is calling them a cult or calling them out on their lies even though they claimed that Sunday worship was their doing. People like to believe what they believe. SDA are being attacked because they closer to bible truth than anything else.
@@gagongflip389 Closer to bible truth than anything else??? Wowww, what an assumption. There's a greater disappointment coming for SDAs. I am an Adventist. I've not left the church, and I'm not planning to. However, I'm baffled as to the reason why so many SADs always seem to think that anyone who disagrees with the teachings of the church and states those disagreements are attacking the church. So, if we reason it out like this, then it's quite right to say that SDAs are the greatest attackers of Catholicism, Mormonism, Pentecostalism and anything that is not Adventist then? I shake my head.
2:21:32 is absolutely spot on about so many subjects in adventism. The amount of ignorance is very concerning. I think a lot of young adventists actually think Daniel was having fri-chik at Passover. Deuteronomy says to put a prophet to the test, and Christ warned that false prophets would deceive many, but adventists are told over and over again not to question things.
@@lewwilliams3191 Steps to Christ was most likely written by Fannie Bolton. She was a whistleblower on Ellen White's plagiarism. I recommend the channel "Test the Prophet" for more evidence on this. The Great Controversy has a conclusion that Satan is the scapegoat, and the world's sins will be placed on him.... which contradicts 2,000 years of Christianity (1 Peter 2:24, John 1:29). She claims Michael the archangel is Christ (Daniel 10:13... Michael is "one of...", Christ is the only begotten, he is not one of anything... John 3:16 .... see also Jude 1:9) Deuteronomy 18:22 gives the test of a prophet and Ellen White fails this test more than once.
I don't know where you're coming from but the Adventist I know question things all the time. Are you aware that Jesus said, Salvation is of the Jews and scripture teaches that the New Covenant is with the House of Israel and Judah? Adventist don't base their salvation on Ellen White.
@@mitchellosmer1293 Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. SPIRITUAL JEW IS ONE INWARDLY: 28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Romans 2:28-29 King James Version A Spiritual Jew is someone that has accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
I loved Steve Daily's psychobiography of Ellen White and I've been waiting for his new book. I'm eager to read it and just ordered it 🤓 Thanks for the great episode!
Wow! Dr Daily is amazing! He’s knowledge about the SDA’s history is remarkable. I so much enjoyed this interview. You need to have him back again. I read the Psychobiography of EGW. I’m having the new book now as well, just started reading it. Thank you both for all you do!
That was long and deep. As the saying goes “a leopard can’t change it’s spot’s”. This is also true of sda, they can’t change their methods of defending themselves and they can’t accept any criticism of their system, as soon as they are cornered they either change the subject or go for character assassination. I’m watching the comments and not a single sda will defend or refute the subject presented in this post. Now someone prove me wrong.
Why should Adventists defend themselves whey they're to busy winning souls for Jesus Christ? The "three angels' messages" is an interpretation of the messages given by three angels in Revelation 14:6-12. The Seventh-day Adventist church teaches that these messages are given to prepare the world for the second coming of Jesus Christ, and sees them as a central part of its own mission.
@@mitchellosmer1293 The interesting thing is in the list of the positions in the church and the gifts of the Holy Spirit I can't find ACCUSER anywhere. I guess that's part of Satan, the accuser of the brethren and the father of lies list.
@@itsspiritual8645 Satan disguises himself as a beautuful angel of white light.. Soul sleep ? Eschatology way off Your human pride + arrogance is sick Jesus Saves by the. Precious Blood shed His Mercy His Grace alone Being born again.the Holy Spirit comes to reside within every child of God.
@@eddietomasi6164 SDA doctrine is a lot better than Catholic and the rest of Protestants, It's just that the SDA preachers are poorly trained at their seminaries.
Run, don’t walk, run away from the disciples of EW, they teach each other to be “wise as serpents and harmless as doves” but the truth is horrendous. Soul stealers.
@@eddietomasi6164that’s the same way I felt for 4-5 years until I saw how they operate in boards and meetings. The final heresy was when two 70+ year old men, lifelong adventist, simultaneously point to a EW book and call it the bible, twice, and we’re willing to argue about it until I stopped the Bible study in my house. They were beside themselves that they couldn’t make me believe like them…
@@eddietomasi6164 the Holy Spirit doesn't say that the second Goat in Leviticus 16:10 (is the devil )which is (Jesus Christ!!) When you became a member of SDA !!you said that was the truth !!!it's part of your confession of Faith written in the investigative judgment! Guess where that puts you!
@@eddietomasi6164Brother, I left SDA after 50 years. I know I did the right thing. Don’t be desperate to join a denomination. Pray for truth. God Will give it. Be careful. These people are insidious. God bless you. Please read Steve’s book. Very eye opening!
The Great Controversy by Ellen G White is a book about Historicism. It starts out with the Destruction of Jerusalem and takes us to today. We're living in the last nine chapters. Ellen G White, herself, never claimed to be a prophet. I believe, she said that she was a messenger of God and she was a lesser light to lead to the greater light. If you claim to be a Christian, couldn't you claim to be the same?
No, the Great Controversy is a fiction. Trying to claim it is a historical work is a disgrace to history. “Ellen G White herself never claimed to be a prophet.” If you listened to this stream, we talked about this quote. You are misrepresenting it to claim she said the opposite of what she actually said. Which is that she didn’t accept the title of prophet because her work entailed MUCH MORE than that name signified. She was more than a prophet. “During the discourse, I said that I did not claim to be a prophetess. Some were surprised at this statement, and as much is being said in regard to it, I will make an explanation. Others have called me a prophetess, but I have never assumed that title. I have not felt that it was my duty thus to designate myself. Those who boldly assume that they are prophets in this our day are often a reproach to the cause of Christ. My work includes much more than this name signifies. I regard myself as a messenger, entrusted by the Lord with messages for His people. When this work was first given me, I begged the Lord to lay the burden on someone else. The work was so large and broad and deep that I feared I could not do it. I have been weak and feeble physically much of my life, but by His Holy Spirit the Lord has given me ability to perform the work entrusted to me. God has made plain to me the various ways in which He would use me to carry forward a special work. Visions have been given me with the promise, “If you deliver the message faithfully, and endure unto the end, you shall eat of the fruit of the tree of life, and drink of the water of the river of life.”-Letters & Manuscripts, Vol. 20 (1905), par. 8-11 (20LtMs, Lt 55, 1905, par. 8-11) Furthermore, no, we’ve looked att statement after statement of her own words on this platform, where she is claiming the Holy Spirit authored ALL of her writings, she never wrote one sentence of heresy, to go against her writings was to go against the Spirit of God, the words in her books are barricaded by a thus saith the Lord, rejecting her writings eventually leads to atheism and rejection of the Bible outright, and on and on and on. No, Christian’s don’t claim to be inspired by the Holy Spirit. Inspiration is not motivation. Inspiration is where God himself is speaking. No, every Christian doesn’t have God dictating revelation to them to reveal to the world as truth one is held accountable to. Yet this is precisely what Mrs. White claimed about herself. Adventists can try and downplay her, dismiss her, and every other excuse we’ve heard, but it doesn’t change any of these plainly clear statements that are either twisted or downplayed because I think deep down Adventists know they are indefensible.
@@answeringadventism Are anything you write fiction, come from you or inspired from God. Calling the Great Controversy fiction is all I have to know about you. I'll let people read it themselves and decide. As I said before it's historicism. Do you know what historicism is, you should. Are you aware of the Left Behind books being written as fiction?
@@itsspiritual8645 Adventists are quick to recommend all kinds of books an literature written by their apologists and often hand them out to others, but SDAs rarely read material that counters their own narrative. This is insular thinking. If you are willing to hear some counter-point arguments to The Great Controversy narrative, please check out Dirk Anderson's *_The Fake Controversy_* .
@@answeringadventism I don't really care one way or another about it. I've never based my belief on a person. I'm more concerned that people understand that salvation is by coming a Spiritual Jew. Salvation doesn't come from a church or organization. Salvation is of the Jews - John 4: 21-23; the New Covenant is with the House of Israel and Judah. - Hebrews 8: 8-12 We have a Jewish Savior John 14:6, Jesus Christ. The substance of the New Covenant is the Ten Commandments - Ex 20: 1-17. We have a Sabbath keeping God - Ex 20: 8-11, not Sunday! We need to become a Spiritual Jews to enter the New Jerusalem Romans 2:28-29. There’re twelve gates into the New Jerusalem, named after the twelve tribes of Israel. - Rev 21: 12 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. A Spiritual Jew, not literal Jew. A Christian is a Spiritual Jew! There’s no covenant with the gentiles.
@@answeringadventism What's fiction about The Great Controversy? The Catholic Church has a problem with it. Is the Secret Rapture fact of Fiction? It appears that you've become a Catholic.
Hey SDA members--I know you are disappointed and/or embarrassed by SDA nonsense associated with leaders and pastors. I get it. I've been going to church for 70 years. SDA Dan & Revelation seminars are basically religious BAIT & SWITCH programs to get people to join SDA Laodiceans and after they are in church they are criticized, by inept, poorly trained SDA pastors, for being tithe robbing, sabbath slacking, love-lacking, lazy, lousy lukewarm Laodicean LOSERS! Then after they have been berated, they are told to "finish the work" and tell everyone the "3 angels messages" to scare them with mark of the beast, Sunday law, close of probation, time of trouble, death decree and last plagues. Soooo do you really care if the SDA denomination CRASHES & BURNS??? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?? HUH??...
@@juligraham7319 Not only did Fannie Bolton know it was wrong (one of Ellen White's "assistants" who was told to "put on the polish"), there were laws since the late 15th century. These laws included making money off of plagiarism. The history of American copyright law originated with the introduction of the printing press to England in the late fifteenth century. As the number of presses grew, authorities sought to control the publication of books by granting printers a near monopoly on publishing in England. The Licensing Act of 1662 confirmed that monopoly and established a register of licensed books to be administered by the Stationers’ Company, a group of printers with the authority to censor publications. The 1662 act lapsed in 1695 leading to a relaxation of government censorship, and in 1710 Parliament enacted the Statute of Anne to address the concerns of English booksellers and printers. The 1710 act established the principles of authors’ ownership of copyright and a fixed term of protection of copyrighted works (14 years, and renewable for 14 more if the author was alive upon expiration). The statute prevented a monopoly on the part of the booksellers and created a “public domain” for literature by limiting terms of copyright and by ensuring that once a work was purchased the copyright owner no longer had control over its use. While the statute did provide for an author’s copyright, the benefit was minimal because in order to be paid for a work an author had to assign it to a bookseller or publisher. Since the Statute of Anne almost 300 years ago, US law has been revised to broaden the scope of copyright, to change the term of copyright protection, and to address new technologies. For several years, the US has considered and acted on copyright reform. The Canadian government is considering copyright reform as well. 1787: US Constitution According to Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 of the US Constitution, “the Congress shall have power . . . to promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries.” 1790: Copyright Act of 1790 The First Congress implemented the copyright provision of the US Constitution in 1790. The Copyright Act of 1790, An Act for the Encouragement of Learning, by Securing the Copies of Maps, Charts, and Books to the Authors and Proprietors of Such Copies, was modeled on the Statute of Anne (1710). It granted American authors the right to print, re-print, or publish their work for a period of 14 years and to renew for another fourteen. The law was meant to provide an incentive to authors, artists, and scientists to create original works by providing creators with a monopoly. At the same time, the monopoly was limited in order to stimulate creativity and the advancement of “science and the useful arts” through wide public access to works in the “public domain.” Major revisions to the act were implemented in 1831, 1870, 1909, and 1976.
What I can't get my head around is how one woman bullies and pushes around such a large number of strong intelligent leadership-type men. This despite seeing the track record that she was mentally ill. Why did all these people allow themselves to be dictated to by all these false visions? Like the story with some Mayor named Gage, this guy basically according to the story did nothing to defend himself against any of her attacks against him. According to the story, he seem to just have sat quietly while this woman bullied him for no apparent reason apart from the fact that people saw it fit to vote him in as mayor. Why didn't he take her to court or something for writing all those horrible things about him? Instead, he took the letter that she wrote with all the humiliating things about him and read it before the church congregation. It makes no sense. It sounds like she was some kind of mafia boss or something who could have you whacked if you didn't do as she told you to. All these doctors and educators just basically bent over and allowed themselves to be taken advantage of by a feebled-minded old woman. I don't believe it, there is something more to this story. My instinct tells me that maybe these people were connected to some kind of mafia or secret society capable of assassinating people or something. I'm sorry I can't believe fake visions alone would cause men of this kind of stature to behave in such a sheepish submissive manner.
Man, that beeping was driving me nuts. Doing kitchen work and trying to figure out which of my devices is doing that and finding no reason for any to beep. Took me at least 5 beeps to figure out that it's not me 🥲
I was reading Steps to Christ, then toward the end the whole tone of the writing changed, as if a different person took it over writing. Makes you wonder
Jeremiah 23:30-32. “Therefore,” declares the LORD, “I am against the prophets who steal from one another words supposedly from me. Yes,” declares the LORD, “I am against the prophets who wag their own tongues and yet declare, ‘The LORD declares.’ Indeed, I am against those who prophesy false dreams, ” declares the LORD. “They tell them and lead my people astray with their reckless lies, yet I did not send or appoint them. They do not benefit these people in the least,” declares the LORD.
"The Angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear Him,and delivereth them. O taste and see that the Lord is Good: blessed is the man that trusteth in Him." Paslm34:7-8
lol how absurd I would be willing to bet most critics did not learn about Cannright till after they got into researching SDA heresy. I certainly did not know about him, till you mentioned him in one of your videos maybe 9 months ago.
I just recently finished reading 'Ellen G White a phycobiography ' .... Wow every Adventist should read it. Looking forward to reading this next book. I left the church 30 years ago. Still grieving the loss of friends. My heart breaks for those who are still influenced by her lies. Generational curse. John 5:24
The explanation of the 'daily' of Daniel Ellen White copied from Barnes: Ellen White (1827-1915): “Then I saw in relation to the “daily” (Daniel 8:12) that the word “sacrifice” was supplied by man’s wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the “daily”; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed” (EW, pp. 74, 75, 1882). Albert Barnes (1798-1870): “The word which is rendered “daily sacrifice” - the word “sacrifice” being supplied by the translators… [the Hebrew word Tamid]…. means, properly, continuance, prepetuity, and then what is continuous or constant - as a sacrifice or service daily occurring. The word sacrifice is properly inserted here” (Barnes’ Notes on The Whole Bible, 1834).
I am under the impression that only God ultimately pulls one out from under the veil, but I also think that one has to be willing to be pulled out from under the veil when God shows ya. Cognitive dissonance kicks in and it is painful, not only emotionally but it causes physical pain as well and it is this cognitive dissonance one must work through, keep going above and over it with prayer for strength to find the real Jesus Christ and His full Gospel within Scriptures as a whole. It is a battle but the work of finding Christ and the finished Work he accomplished at the cross for us is sooo very worth it. The New Covenant is so much better over any of the old as well as completely different, but again it takes work and study and research to discover it over and above the indoctrination of Adventism's Ellen and the men surrounding her.
Hello. I've been watching your videos, due to them and other sources. I have left the SDA church. I was baptized into the SDA back on November of last year. I barely heard about EGW then, but little by little they've been pushing her books about her. They never sat well with me. There's just too much stuff that you can't find in the Bible. I have a specific question. Where is the writings that she said Jesus had to go into God's Throne room to convince Him to send him to save humanity? I'm currently trying to argue the elder.
I appreciate the link. And I agree with it 1000% this doctrine places doubt in God's omniscience. But I still don't see which of her writtings has that quote. I would like to show it to the elder of the SDA church that I was attending
@@j.williamfernandez2910after just reading the comments if you follow the link given the there are parts which are highlighted purple which give direct links to each of the EG teachings as given in the answering adventism website. i hope this helps with navagating the website in the future
In fact the entire book reads like a Sci fi movie. I found the Great Controversy very entertaining reading as a sheltered SDA teen( A bookworm,yes!😂) I was told the reason this information was not found in the Bible was that EGW was given special enlightenment from God that no one else had, that’s why she was a prophet. 🤨 Oh really?
@@ronaldchong yup. What he went on to explain is from his book and it’s littered with footnotes and sources. This wasn’t exhaustive as-Steve didn’t want to spoil his book for people.
I started coming to the Adventist Church when I was 3. I was adopted by the McCalla family. Ethline was my stepmother. She was a narcissist like Ellen White, and very abusive to me. When I started to read the Bible at 8 years old I was confused when I was reading Ellen Whites's books, because I could not find anything that matched with the Bible. So I stopped reading her books. Now if I need to understand something in the Bible I use TH-cam or Google. She should have had Psychiatric help. But narcissist don't admit anything is wrong with them
I’ll refer you to Myles own website, Answering adventism. Check out each article, take your pick. 💁♀️. I’m a new subscriber, unfamiliar with this aggressive exchange and it appears I’m stepping in it with both feet! But bear with me, I’m up for the challenge, so bring it on❤
Thanks brother the light you shed clears my mind, I have been contemplating the transition of Moses and Joshua and actually God showed a work based approach isn’t enough for salvation.
Fantastic program! And thanks for the shout out!! Can’t wait to come there soon! Oh and Every time I hear you (Myles) or Steve, I am amazed at all the new insights I pick up. New perspectives and even new info! Eg, Did you say Hiram Edson had said things about certain races of ‘man’ that he felt confirmed they were not god created? Did I hear that right? And that James had endorsed the pamphlet or magazine it was said in? Once again - Did I hear that correctly?!??!? Anyway. Keep up the GREAT work! Both of you!
Thanks Peter! Not Hiram Edson, Uriah Smith. He put together a pamphlet regarding EGWs statements on amalgamation (and other things) and stated that any person who looks at these races-the wild Bushman of Africa, the Hottentot Tribes and the Digger Indians of North America-would clearly agree they are not what God intended humanity to be. An obvious by product of man and beast mixing. Ellen and James then sold roughly 2000 copies at camp meetings. The sources for all of that are here: answeringadventism.com/was-ellen-g-white-a-racist/
It’s sad that someone is dedicating their life to discrediting Adventist after being Adventist. Satan is working hard on your soul. I 100% above the mindset that anyone of any religion should do their own homework, and never take the teachings of someone else except the Bible , as truth. There are false teachers in every religion and as an Adventist I have experienced it. That however does not mean that Adventist isn’t the remnant church. We all should remain vigilant of false teachers, even within our own ranks.
Sorry you feel that way. I've been an Adventist since 1994. Studying the Bible through Sabbath school has strengthen my faith in Christ. I invite you to truly study the Word. Negativity and attacks do not come from God's Spirit. Be at peace.
Unfortunately studying the Bible through SDA Sabbath School means you are studying through EGW’s lense. It’s not Biblical. I was raised SDA, my grandfather was a pastor of SDA, I’m 4th generation, and Jesus saved me out of this false religion. Read Galatians, Romans and Hebrews (without sabbath school lessons) and ask God for guidance to show you the truth. God bless ❤
I'm very sorry to have to say this to you,But you do NOT KNOW THE HOLY SPIRIT! YOU WILL NOT FIND THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ANY CULT! OR IN RELIGION! PERIOD! MAY THE LORD OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH OF HIS WORD!
"Negativity and attacks do not come from God's spirit"? Are you sure about that? Jesus verbally 'attacks' the pharisee's and was 'negative' in the Gospels. Are you saying that Jesus was not of God? Your logic does not hold up. Your response is typical of those in cults or high control groups such as Mormonism, Islam, and Jehovah's Witness. Reinforcing your beliefs in a comment section does not make it true. I pray that you embrace the true Gospel of Jesus Christ and reject your idols and false prophetess.
2:55:40 ""Amalgamation men and the beast" Actually, Ellen White understood the main reason of the global Flood better than you or evn adventists then and now. However, in her time it was impossible and unimaginable, so in her writings there is a more edible theory - the Sethite theory about mixed marriages of believers and non-believers. The theory is completely incorrect in biblical, historical and logical terms. In conclusion, her statement had nothing to do with racism, and her contemporary apologetics did her a disservice with their stupid apologetics. Please do your homework on "Genesis 6 Experiment". I recommend materials of Rob Skiba, Steve Quayle, L.A. Marzulli and others and the book "The Omega Conspiracy" by I.D.E. Thomas
Chimeras, the mix of human and animal DNA, are becoming a reality just as they were before the flood. Today scientists are working on ways to grow human transplantable organs inside of pigs. Before the flood man was more than capable of creating supposably mythical monstrosities like the Minotaur (half-man, half-bull), the Centaur (half-man, half-horse), the Satyr (half-man, half-goat), and others. Remember, that God repented that he made not only man, but the beast also: "...it repenteth me that I have made THEM" Gen 6:7. As far as man, before the flood, being capable of amalgamation of man and beast, remember that every previous generation was genetically superior, both mentally and physically. See the work by Dr. John Sanford "Genetic Entropy and the Mystery of the Genome" on TH-cam.
There is a movement called "the present truth." Have you had videos about this. It's an Adventist off shoot. I've listened to a few sermons by emmanuel nougaisse, and it seems way off in doctrine. Pastor David House exposed this pastor I mentioned above in a video he made on you tube called, " six wives in six years." I'm an evangelical but find it scary that adventist follow mr Nougaisse... it would be interesting your take on these present truth ministries.
I was shunned by one of the Elders which I used to look up to so much . He became a pastor now . His name is Dr. Encil Brown . All I was doing showing him all the videos I had seen and the questions I had about Ellen white . He did not have any answers for me and shunned me , so sad ! As I got closer to our Father in heaven I had asked our father to lead me to the truth and to righteousness and what happened he did he opened my eyes and I started seeing all these videos exposing Ellen white . Now the you tube video with John Ankerberg and Walter.Martin . Walter Martin pulls out a quote that Ellen white had never borrowed anything from anyone and that it came straight from the Holy Spirit ! Another thing is that no one from the sda conferences had the courage to go on John Ankerberg show to defend Ellen white . They knew well they could not defend their dogma ! I think that was so cowardly from the sda conference ! I bet if anyone that would put Ellen white through the test and have Ken samples , Steve Daily , Gillian Ford , and any other theologians. Debate them they will not show up ! So what’s there excuse ?
In my understanding EG White was not a scholer to read other authors, because she was only a class 3 student, but what she wrote about something especially about christian reformation they fall inline with what others have written, what i can say is that just because they reveal the same fact it does not mean that she copied from other authors.
Truth is always bring out criticisms. At least when they attempt to do so, it is good advertisement for those who wish to know both side of the coin. The fact that they do so publicly is my first red flag. The Bible says if you have an issue with someone. Go to them privately and with love, care and prayer deal with the issue. The Bible says those who seek to publicly humiliate someone is linked to the accuser of the brethren. Red flag.
Myles has tattoos all over his body: a Red flag. He is agent of the accuser of the brethren or the accuser under the veil of flesh. Myles is funded by the Catholic Church to accuse the SDA church members/believers.
It is said from James White, the husband of EGW, that he once said (when his position was questioned): "James White to contradict is to contradict the Holy Spirit!" No more words needed! But we also find a similar text in the bible in the Acts of the Apostles 15,28: 'For it pleases the Holy Spirit and us not to burden you except these necessary things:...' - for me this sounds like blasphemy!
Since Ellen saw the elders engaging in having some "me time" instead of attending the meeting, did she ever see any of the sisters using some kitchen implements on themselves in their bedroom or was it just men who were engaging in "secret vice"?
Miles, this is off-topic, but EGW and James, and possibly others, often use the phrase 'lovely Jesus'. Have you done any digging into this phrase? Is there any ontological significance of this adjective? Is this a reference to his 'personality' aka materialism?
Philippians 4:8 KJV Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Claiming to be compelled by the Holy Spirit to rebuke people of their sins and claiming to convict people of sin isn't the same thing. Also, legalism can exist in any church, Adventists aren't a special case
Regarding her “more than a prophet” quote. I’m sure y’all know that’s what Jesus said about John the Baptist in Matt. 12:9. Sickening. Her self aggrandizement is nauseating.
Not that you have any control over this, but the LDS is advertising on your videos. I think they messed up on the analytics! This audience is probably the least likely to go to an LDS church! (It could be related to my location - very high LDS population here.)
I keep getting thrown off by the "beep beep" during the video. I kept going to my kitchen to see if my microwave or refrigerator was in an alert condition. I finally figured out it was a sound from in the video.
Mr Myles, This is my opinion to your ministry.. It took honest men and women in adventism, leaded by the spirit through prayers, faith, and sacrifices to preach the bible truth adventism is preaching today My question to you: would you please stop attacking the beliefs system of the SDA and start a foundation of your version of truth so that people will choose by themselves whether to believe in your version of truth or not? It seems you have many churches down the line to criticize and "expose" because they don't align with your belief system, such as Catholic, Methodist, evangelical etc... And it may take your lifetime on earth to criticize rather than to preach whatever truth you believe is true.
You’re a part of a movement that is definitionally an accuser of the brethren, that preaches a false gospel and a false christ. On top of that, you comment a bunch of niceties and falsities that have been addressed on this platform over and over and over again showing the evidence. Primary sources. Not Joe blow SDA with his own personal opinions. No, SDAism wasn’t started by honest men and women just searching for God. You sound extremely ignorant of SDA history and have only ever read it how they have told it to you. Then you use the classic “if you address us you have to address everyone” excuse. Umm, no, you don’t. People can either be sharp and on the ball really well in one area of be mediocre across the board. I’ve talked about why I felt called to this specific focus-because I was equipped to do so and no one else was doing it. I have a unique relationship to Adventist, not just a random outsider that decided to address Adventistm. Did you bother to look into any of this? There’s already plenty of outlets out there addressing Catholicism, Mormonism, etc. I started this platform with a specific cause and focus. Which you are obviously in the dark on and didn’t even bother to look into. Go read the mission statement of the platform. This platform obviously isn’t for you. It isn’t about you. It’s about Christian’s. This is your first comment (we can see). When you don’t even bother to look into what you’re criticizing your opinion means very little. You also dealt with no a single thing discussed here which is typical with some of you.
@@answeringadventism Yes Mr Myles, I did not deal with a specific thing stated in this video, after watching many of your videos I got confused and decided to ask this here knowing that I do not have any means to reach out to you. Above all you do I personally find anger in the many presentations, you are not being patient (please show love) with SDAs.
the "honest men and women" you speak about dont exist.You come off as a sincere believer and im not trying to pick on you at all friend. However myles is right. Your people have a follow us or go to hell mentality with EGW as your god with the real God left to the side. When she gets questioned for the most part ive personally gotten nothing but aggrivation, rudeness, and have literally been laughed at in groups. You people dont deserve love until you can give it yourselves. Adventist arent loving, you just want people to join your fake religion.
Still watching/listening to the video. This Jud Lake, Adventist Apologist who talks about how Adventism reformed in 1888 needs to learn the concept of "the Fruit of the Poisonous tree". You cannot completely erase the effects of a heretical theology when that heresy frames the other doctrines of the group. Besides this there is a lot of double mindednesses in Adventism when it comes to their reforms vs. staying true to their founders. It really reminds me of the parable of the foolish and wise builders, as well as the verse about a man "serving two masters". Adventists are always flip flopping around on issues. When it comes to things like the importance of Sabbath sometimes it seems like a passive aggressive bait and switch. Because on places like certain Christian internet forums they have to agree on certain beliefs like the Sabbath does not pertain to salvation etc. but that is obviously problematic when it comes to their official theology.
i am not an sda member but know something of their history and theology and can only think this guy is but one more frustrated, angry ex-adventist with an axe to grind...'the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus'....compare EVERYTHING to those two truth statements and the background texts verifying their truthfullness and quit the childish contests of personalities...
Then get Steve’s book and refute the primary sources like SDA scholarship has failed to do but instead has attacked him personally. What difference does it make? You guys have a doctrine of Ellen White being divinely inspired and correcting of inaccurate interpretations of scripture. She’s supposedly the identifying mark of the remnant church because Jesus is speaking through her writings. Yeah, if that’s not true, it’s kind of a big deal. It means Ellen doesn’t pass the biblical sniff test and you aren’t the remnant. Which brings the whole house of cards down because it’s a system and it’s all dependent upon other doctrines. As G.I. butler rightly admitted-Ellen is to the SDA Church what the keystone is to the St. Louis arch.
Wow!! Thank God for giving such knowledge. And thanks for doing this video and all others that feature. I pray for you. God bless and protect you and your family.
Matthew 7:1-5 King James Version 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Hey! A popular TH-camr named Jideon recently deleted all his prank videos and turned Christian, now his channel is GiDeon where he makes only Christian content, but he has a whole video of the Sabbath endorsing it, worried he will convert down the SDA pipeline and bring a lot of young unassuming people with him
@@juligraham7319just because someone attends church on sundays, doesn't mean they "hate" the sabbath. As a matter if fact, I love resting on saturdays.
@@eddietomasi6164 Revelation 12 is not a written to you.!. you destroyed Daniel 9:27.. to come up with that foolish thinking!. There's no Sabbath connected to Revelation 12 in the first place...
@@juligraham7319 That so many people in the world 'hate' the Sabbath is irrational SDA hysteria. Have youconsidered that many Jewish people observe their Sabbath and that it isn't an issue with: 1. Over 2 billion Christians 2. 1.9 billion Muslims 3. 1.16 billion Hindus 4. Over half a billion Buddhist 5. The billions of people in other religions. Source- World Population Review- internet Most people don't know and/ or aren't interested in who SDA's are and confuse SDA's with Jehovah's Witnesses. Anyhow there are people in the world who not only don't go to a job on Saturday but they worship God everyday. But what the SDA church means by observing Sabbath is supporting their version and SDA's are not consistent at all as there are those high up in the church who make all kinds of interest and financial profit every day including Saturday. I know that SDA's are waiting for Ellen White's version of Revelation to happen where after some spiritualism and false miracles that the SDA church will suddenly be the central focus of the world. I am glad to be living in the days where knowledge is increasing and many are learning that Ellen White was involved in spiritualism like so many others in her time, and that the SDA church teachings are based on Ellen White and not on the bible that is the inspired Word of God.
Andrew, I've been in Gideon's discord server a bit the last month, and his "pastor" brother Josh is really gatekeeping Gideon. There's been lots of debates in voice chat and people trying to get Gideon's ear to get away from the Sabbath and other judaizing ideas, as well as get him to look at a proper view of the Trinity (bro. Josh believes only the Father and son are God, the Spirit is just an energy to him, so it's a dyad instead of triad). The rules have massively changed this past month to not allow any discussion outside of what's accepted. In a way it's helped some people question "wait, why isn't this allowed to be discussed?" And they come to other servers to talk, but others just submit and accept the rules. It's very hard to set up discussions with Gideon to connect him with somebody that has a different viewpoint. It is sad and dangerous.
Enjoyed the video, but was disappointed that Dr. Daily was not able to address his critics statements without attacking them personally and name calling. There is no way for me to know, but I wonder if there is still some residual SDA in him.
Steve responds to the critics in his books which, the paper by Alberto Timm was in response to. It was Timm who resorted to name calling and when Steve was asked about it, he simply said he wasn't impressed and they entirely missed the mark by not actually addressing the criticisms, but attacking him personally. I think Steve simply recognizes this and stands by his homework. Saying this as someone who they have done the same thing to.
@answeringadventism it is natural for those who've left the Adventist church to feel hurt by how their former friends and colleagues treat them. Timm may have started the name calling, but in my opinion, Steve stooped to a similar level in this interview.
There is a pastor by the name of Ivor Myers. You will find him on TH-cam. He does not identify as Adventist, but if you look on his site you will see that he is. Very charismatic and can pull people into the church by deceit. Check him out. I entered a comment on one of his videos which was promptly removed.
I’m making my way through this lengthy video. What a wonderful fascinating interview! Mr. Daily I’m looking forward reading your new book. I knew about Nancy’s story of her grandmother but I got a lot of new information from your interview. Thank you.❤
SDA's are people like you and me - what did you expect - little gods? Hmmm - just use common sense: they all miss something for rightousness and justification. I was raised in an SDA family in Germnay - not very conservative, but i questioned everything they told me when i grew up. I compared doctrines to other believes and denominations and some hold true others obviously wrong. Things that are completely messed up and wrong is the whole story about 1844 (expected Jesus second coming to earth), afterwards promoted as re-establishment of the Holy Sanctuary in heaven! Its all ridicoulous. Also i never agreed to E.G.White as beeing a prophetess (she didn't either claim that ever) - and i am aware that je had stolen lots of her writings from other autors without giving proper respect or even mentioning that. Thats not only unfair, thats massively lying imho. Nevertheless all others have their own problems - you can be absolutely sure! ;-)
This is priceless. Someone loose their leg in a hay accident. I thought hay way supposed to be soft 😅😅😅😅. Steve dont you mean amputee. Not the man had a peg leg 😂😂😂😂😂😂
And the Catholics claim to have changed the Saturday, Sabbath to Sunday, the first day, as a day of worship. The Sabbath is Saturday, the 7th day of the week. The Sabbath is the Lord’s Day of the Bible.
Catholics didnt CHANGE the Day of REST . The Early EARLY church did. Paul even mentioned churches meeting on SUNDAY . Plus. Sabbath " Sabbaton" in the greek isn't seen after Colossians 2 ( where GOD tells us not to judge people on things like New moon , Sabbaths and others)
@@ScottFrye000111222 So you're trying to tell me that the church changed what God Sanctified and made Holy, by who's authority? Acts 13: 42-44 KJV - 42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. 43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God. 4 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
@@ScottFrye000111222 Apparently, Adam and Eve were under grace and sinless when God created, sanctified and made the Sabbath a holy day. Do you prefer the Catholic Sun Worship on Sunday?
@@itsspiritual8645 I agree with you brother good point. What are they really getting here in this channel? Other than criticising White. Don't understand where his going here ?
Infact they are trying do the same with marriage. The marriage God blessed between man and woman, its now slowly being converted in some churches. Same sex is now being blessed to attract gay couples into the church, soon will be promoted heavily. Then much later, in about 200 years to come, find verses in the Bible to support the same. Just like they did change the sabbath with the aim of attracting pagans into the church. Then we shall find it hard, explaining to the world that God only blessed marriage between man and woman just like we do with sabbath
@1:35 xD xD xD You FUNNY Myles! xD Anyway, I _CANT BELIEVE_ she went THAT FAR!!!'' The _public accusation_ is way worse than the act in my opinion, and that's not taking into account she was a false prophet.
And what are you doing right now yourself. Are you not picking on someone yourself. Did not Jesus say “Whosoever is without sin themself let them cast the first stone.” Yes He did.
Who threw any stones here? You realize that wasn’t about metaphorical word stones right? The law called for adulterers to be stoned…literally. With real stones. Not critiques with “word” stones. Care to actually deal with the facts presented instead?
The bible tells us to fight for the faith... that's what this man is doing...it also tells us to Expose the Darkness... that is also what this man is doing... blessings in Jesus 🙏
1:35 @answeringadventism Bless your heart. Your entire premise is based on the assumption that you are correct. It’s not bearing false witness if you happen to be on the wrong side of an argument. The “euphemism” you elude to is based on your misunderstanding and misinterpretation of Protestant Theology. This was established at the conclusion of the Council of Trent: “Tradition, not Scripture, is the rock on which the church of Jesus Christ is built.”-Adrien Nampon, Catholic Doctrine as Defined by the Council of Trent, p. 157 “Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God... The Church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” -Catholic Record, September 1, 1923. As I continually point out to you, your “New Creation” theology is Catholic, not Protestant. It’s tradition, not Scripture.
Your entire premise is based on your assumption you are. Correct!! (Your own words.)!. you can't get there without believing the( first lie).. in in the first place. subtract 457 from 2300.. you had to believe that was 1844 in the fall to believe the rest of the lies.. a true Prophet can't lie. Leviticus 18. She puts you in Galatians 1 you're not going to come out! You can't! . .
@@jimbob1644 Jimbob do you ever make any sense? Do you have a learning disability or something? I see you are still parroting the same ol’ nonsense in every comment section. Try to stay with the actual statement I make and stay away from the tangents. One thing at a time Jimbob. Nothing in what I posted here has anything to do with SDA theology. I learned it as a Baptist, my friend. Long before I even set foot in an SDA Church. So what I believe about Sabbath doctrine is irrelevant to what you believe about the SDA Church. You would already know this if you understood anything about the Church Council outcomes, specifically the Council of Trent. Since it predates Adventism, it has zero to do with EGW or the SDA Church. So instead of the nonsense you just posted, how bout tell us what the outcome of Trent says about Sabbath vs Sunday? Which is Biblical and which is purely Catholic Tradition?
To the extent of the alleged plagiarism by Ellen White, it would seem that an individual with limited education would have to read insurmountable amounts of others writings to incorporate them into her own writings, that is unless she had several individuals assisting her in doing so. It appears from all the books and articles she wrote, that throughout her life she was consistently reading, copying, and writing. Quite amazing! Any thoughts?
😮A "True" prophet's prophecies will come true ; so that's the only valid criteria to use except , also, the prophet will not speak contrary to the Scriptures.
Timestamps:
0:00 | Introduction
4:44 | Dr. Jud Lake: All modern SDA critics are D.M. Canright parrots?!
16:33 | SDA Scholar Claim 1: Steve Daily used to praise Ellen White, what happened?
26:06 | SDA Scholar Claim 2: Steve Daily is a bad historian who selectively cites sources?
37:40 | SDA Scholar Claim 3: Ellen White's plagiarism issues have already been dealt with?
49:14 | SDA Scholar Claim 4: Steve Daily wrongfully judges inner motives?
53:56 | SDA Scholar Claim 5: Steve Daily is bitter and bias?
1:00:07 | SDA Scholar Claim 6: Steve Daily's book has a dark shadow over it?
1:05:51 | What was Ellen White's "Big Lie?"
1:08:33 | Ellen claimed time would never again be a test and Steve is lying?
1:17:57 | Who was D.M. Canright?
1:31:36 | Ellen White's claim about Canright...
1:38:07 | Who was Carrie Johnson and was was her "Big Lie?"
1:56:09 | SDA Apologist: "All of Steve's claims are easily refuted?"
1:59:22 | Strongest evidence Carrie Johnson never even knew Canright?
2:08:39 | Who was Norman Douty?
2:16:25 | Post-1888 Adventism is grace focused and not legalistic?
2:32:55 | Arthur & Willie White's role in the "Big Lie"
2:37:11 | What was the 1919 Bible Conference
2:43:27 | The Bible writers plagiarized so it's ok Ellen White did?!
2:49:15 | What role did F.D. Nichol play in covering up the "Big Lie?"
2:53:37 | SDA Claim: "Contemporary Ellen White critics never engage F.D. Nichol!"
3:00:54 | SDA Claim: "Dale Ratzlaff doesn't understand post-1888 Adventism!"
3:10:50 | D.M. Canright's view of the Law
3:13:56 | What is Ellen White's legacy?
3:17:22 | Final thoughts & Sign off
Frankly I don't even know why the straw man, I am challenging your lie at timestamp 1:18 about the euphemism. You have inserted your opinion at the beginning of the stream and imposed an opinion on over 22 million plus people and want to pretend you have evidence that has nothing to do with your opinion. You also attempt to obfuscate the issues surrounding that nonsense being challenge and pretend is now pretending that there is a dichotomy between being rational and experiencing emotion. Was Jesus' assertion in Matt 21:12-13 untrue because he was experiencing an emotion? Fool others not me, I am seeing the resentment from both you and Mr Daily and violation of the 9th commandment from you.
@@iteradveritatis4233 Do you follow Ellen G. White as the messenger of God?
@@terrygreenman1540 I don't follow EG White neither do I follow John or Luke, I follow Jesus who they are suppose to lift up. I do accept the scripture as authoritative as taught in the Bible 2 Timothy 3:16-17
@@terrygreenman1540 I do not follow anyone, my beliefs and practices and informed by the scriptures as is recommended in 2 Timothy 3:15-17
@@iteradveritatis4233 You kind of repeated yourself in 2 different messages.
Do you know there is over 177 years of disappointment going on? And still counting.
Just came out in December, was only in for two years. I found it to be very mentally abusive. EGW writings were awful in not being able to live up to all the demands. So glad to be free.
Well, when you don't love something that is what happens dear
Sad to hear that you left. What mental abuse did you get?
Amayzing what makes you so glad makes me so sad. My greater concern is that the day will come when the glad and sad will change place.
Truth is not meant to be a threat. It is an invitation and an offer of victory. The threat is our fallen nature. God promise is an invitation and an offer to total victory. If the Holy Spirit comes to show me my true condition. It is not to condemn me. But to offer to change me. We all need to see what needs to change. I praise God when he shows me my condition. For I know He is doing that at the same time as He is offering me victory.
I was raised in this evil cult. Let me tell you, it's still very much connected to the Freemasons and destroyed my life.They worship egw, nothing else.
43:50 Ford tried to do the exact same thing and change the church, but unless the writings of Ellen G White are disregarded, the church will never be reformed, it will never be revised, or put in question to be reasoned with. Just look at how Timm is tap dancing his way while defending his "prophetess". Its embarrassing. No honest Christian will look critically at her writing and objectively deal with both accusations and defenses and conclude she was a prophet of God.
It is now obvious that 7th day Adventists I left after completing my grade 10 back in 1985, even at my younger age I realized that scriptures seems to be misrepresented. Thanks so much for opening up the Cann of warms
Im so glad that there are a few people like you out there talking about the falsehoods of the 7th day Adventists i left about 3 years ago and have lost my entire family and is hard to find a church to go to because of the trama i experienced from this church please keep up the lords work no matter what the advinists who are still lost say you are actually helping people find the truth and the way out
What did the church do to you?
Ellen G. White never claimed to be a prophet she would get inspiration and instructions from her trances her wrings were mostly about healthful living and abstinence from common practices back then that were harmful for you like sugar smoking other things I can't remember right now her work was pleadgerised not what these people are saying that guest with all his degrees to read the Bible all those degrees and expertise Don't mean anything against G-D's word she only had a 10th grade education but she was ins pired by G-D thus host and guest need to read the 10 commandments sunday is the 1st day of the week read also Genesis G-D rested on the seventh day a and sansantify it and made it holy the sabbath was changed by Romans not by G-D I urge those people who commented to go back to the Bible not somebody with all those degrees if i was him id throw them in the trash😂
University Degrees do not impress me as a matter of fact all these universities are the ones responsible for the chaotic and stupidity that is flourishing in our day
Amen😢
@@yonasiseth2631Someone ask a good question and yes, before anyone ask yes I'm an Adventist and I wasn't always a sda. I didn't grew up in the church. But I just wish I had found this church earlier in my walk to find truth in God's word.
The sda are very nice people, I had my critics before about this church and ask a lot of why's??
I see the pattern here just like in my local church, and that's because some were not spending deep time in the word of God..Jesus is coming guys to take his bride home and I believe everyone should be ready.
But when someone ask the q what has the church done to you?
I had to comment and say something about my own experience:
1. Members who left the church left it because they were hurt by someone in the church.
2. Many did not experience the love from others as they should....as the bible states "to love one another❤"
3. Others just didn't study the bible.."here a little and there a little" to understand the words God of for themself..they just relied on there own thinking of the bible and didn't ask the Holy Spirit to lead them to all truth.
4. When I came I didn't know much about Ellen White, but I was fascinated about how she knew the word of God so well when they quoted her..one day I told a member of sda church who also was taking the same bible class... to show me this woman Ellen White, tell me where she's at so that I can go and visit her..yes I literally said that. Never knew that she died many years ago.
I saw this lack of understanding of some members in the sda of how to study her writing which was inspired by God. There is no way a child with a grade like her would know the thinks she knew and write books in health that helped many people with cancer, blood pressure, sugar problems here in my country Suriname.
Humanly is not possible unless she was inspired by God.
What I'm saying is if you study the bible you will understand her writings which simply points or magnifies the greater "light" the Word of God...I came to understand more about things like:
-The character of God
-How someone can be saved.
-State of the death
I had a different view of Gods character before I started studying his word with sda and I also had a different view of the state of the death
You must understand that I came from a dark place, from necromancy group, from ancestors worship, fromcliving for Satan.
Untill I was saved by Christ Jesus.
All the above is my own experience..I thank God for revealing this to me by the power of his Holy Spirit. HH
Good luck in finding a church outside of the SDA Church ! They're pretty much all apostate churches who believe and teach that we only need to keep nine of God's 10 commandments. They also accept spiritualism by believing that , when we die , we either go to heaven or to hell . The Bible, however, clearly teaches that we rest or sleep, unconsciously, in the grave until the second coming . Also, the Lord tells us , in Leviticus , that certain foods such as pigs are unclean ; but pork is a big delicacy on the tables of most Christians outside of the SDA Church ! So we need to compare the lifestyle of the church's teachings with the church of the first century. There are also many other teachings that will identify a false church as well.
The biggest problem affecting Adventism is spiritual pride. A reluctance to accept the fact that our pioneers were wrong on some major biblical issues. Instead, we stonewall, do theological gymnastics, and text bending, in order to fit the word of God into Adventism, rather than fit Adventism into the word of God. Adventism is ruled by eisegesis. There's a spirit of intellectual dishonesty amongst our theologians; not all, but too many. All the lies, deceptions, cover-ups and dishonesty will one day come to nought. May God help the genuine truth seekers in Adventism to find the true Gospel.
Praises and glory to the lamb,thank you Myles and Steve to keep the true gospel flame continues on... Myles I'm impressed by your courage to be on the Frontline to protect the gospel of Jesus Christ and support the foundation of 5 epistles of apostle Paul given by revelation of Jesus Christ to clarify the new covernant gospel,grace and faith,the true spiritual connection we have with Christ Jesus..
Jesus Christ has already summarized it in John 14:6 IAM the way the only truth and the life no man goes to the father but through me....NO MAN GOES THROUGH THE WORKS OF THE LAW SHALL BE SAFE,BUT ONLY THROUGH THE WORKS OF JESUS CHRIST, SALVATION IS FOUND THROUGH HIM JESUS.... CONDEMNATION IS FOUND THROUGH THE WORKS OF THE LAW...SDA MUST UNDERSTAND.... AND STOP MIXING UP GOSPEL AND THE LAW..
I left SDA nearly 2 years ago. My husband is a Lutheran and when I told him all the crazy things about EGW and the false doctrine of this church he immediately called it out. He called them charlatans.
It’s hard when you’re raised into this cult because you are programmed into believing without any questioning all the things they teach. God bless all to find the true Jesus.
I was a Lutheran, it's one step out of the Catholic Church. I wouldn't be surprised if they rejoin them pretty soon.
@@itsspiritual8645 You sound very judgmental. That’s not Christian. 👋 ✌️ Bye Bye! Not interested.
Well, they do not let it come so far to be critical. If you criticize you are on the wrong path. And the members are talking behind held out hand about you. I grew up in SDA in the 1960th in Europe. Austria/ Vienna. EG White and the Bible were used to bring us on track, even as small children. I left them when I was about 19 years old. It is still making me uneasy, and I think I am traumatized. There was nobody all this years I could talk about it.
Sorry you feel that way.
Definitely not a cult ..You can critical but I've been observing them for years as orthodox.
I can't find any evidence that they are cult.
God bless all in this journey as well as those still lost and stuck and blind to the truth, but its right in front of them.
We do not need EGW nor her interpretations of Scriptures to know God and find salvation in Christ.
Remember this our salvation is the work of God the Father, the Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.
Thats is all you need.
I grew up in the church. I was beat up with egw sayings the whole time. It's not easy to break away from the sda church. I question everything now. Is it biblical or is it a egw thing. Plus you can not take your questions to pastors or other sda. I just want Bible truth. I have had conversations with people and every comment is ew says this or that. What does the Bible say. I guess my question is where to go to church?
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Hi Dorothy-I relate to your question of where to go to church after leaving the SDA church-I visited numerous churches and attended a Baptist church for awhile. Now I’m 85 and my”church “ is some excellent TH-cam pastors messages and learn a lot! God bless you in your journey!❤
Dr. Daily is a treasure in the pursuit of truth and myth busting.
I know Nancy and have listened to her directly about some of her experiences as a child regarding her grandmother. I find it abominable that my own family members still believe these lies told about Canright and how they hold the EGW family in such esteem. They need a good lesson in logic, although I don't know if that would even help, because they don't want to believe they have been believing a lie all this time.
What about the pope, isn't it the same thing. Nobody is calling them a cult or calling them out on their lies even though they claimed that Sunday worship was their doing. People like to believe what they believe. SDA are being attacked because they closer to bible truth than anything else.
@@gagongflip389from the back woods
@@gagongflip389 the Catholic Church is more hated than the SDA church worldwide.
@@gagongflip389 Closer to bible truth than anything else??? Wowww, what an assumption. There's a greater disappointment coming for SDAs. I am an Adventist. I've not left the church, and I'm not planning to.
However, I'm baffled as to the reason why so many SADs always seem to think that anyone who disagrees with the teachings of the church and states those disagreements are attacking the church. So, if we reason it out like this, then it's quite right to say that SDAs are the greatest attackers of Catholicism, Mormonism, Pentecostalism and anything that is not Adventist then? I shake my head.
2:21:32 is absolutely spot on about so many subjects in adventism. The amount of ignorance is very concerning. I think a lot of young adventists actually think Daniel was having fri-chik at Passover. Deuteronomy says to put a prophet to the test, and Christ warned that false prophets would deceive many, but adventists are told over and over again not to question things.
Just read her book for yourselves... Steps to Christ, Desire of Ages...
@@lewwilliams3191 Steps to Christ was most likely written by Fannie Bolton. She was a whistleblower on Ellen White's plagiarism. I recommend the channel "Test the Prophet" for more evidence on this. The Great Controversy has a conclusion that Satan is the scapegoat, and the world's sins will be placed on him.... which contradicts 2,000 years of Christianity (1 Peter 2:24, John 1:29). She claims Michael the archangel is Christ (Daniel 10:13... Michael is "one of...", Christ is the only begotten, he is not one of anything... John 3:16 .... see also Jude 1:9) Deuteronomy 18:22 gives the test of a prophet and Ellen White fails this test more than once.
@@lewwilliams3191 ..They won't. They love their lies. Pray for them. I would have been there but for the grace of God and my mothers prayers.
I don't know where you're coming from but the Adventist I know question things all the time. Are you aware that Jesus said,
Salvation is of the Jews and scripture teaches that the New Covenant is with the House of Israel and Judah? Adventist don't
base their salvation on Ellen White.
@@mitchellosmer1293 Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
SPIRITUAL JEW IS ONE INWARDLY:
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Romans 2:28-29 King James Version
A Spiritual Jew is someone that has accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
Such a great stream! Dr. Steve Daily is extremely knowledgeable & frank but also gracious in his delivery,
I loved Steve Daily's psychobiography of Ellen White and I've been waiting for his new book. I'm eager to read it and just ordered it 🤓
Thanks for the great episode!
I’ve read Steve’s Psychobiography book TWICE. There’s that much information in it. Unbelievably comprehensive. So well done.
Wow! Dr Daily is amazing! He’s knowledge about the SDA’s history is remarkable. I so much enjoyed this interview. You need to have him back again. I read the Psychobiography of EGW. I’m having the new book now as well, just started reading it.
Thank you both for all you do!
Thank you Mylers and Steve - I really appreciate this discussion.
D.M. Canright knew that Ellen White and Adventism was not teaching biblical Christianity.
That was long and deep.
As the saying goes “a leopard can’t change it’s spot’s”.
This is also true of sda, they can’t change their methods of defending themselves and they can’t accept any criticism of their system, as soon as they are cornered they either change the subject or go for character assassination.
I’m watching the comments and not a single sda will defend or refute the subject presented in this post.
Now someone prove me wrong.
Why should Adventists defend themselves whey they're to busy winning souls for Jesus Christ?
The "three angels' messages" is an interpretation of the messages given by three angels in Revelation 14:6-12. The Seventh-day Adventist church teaches that these messages are given to prepare the world for the second coming of Jesus Christ, and sees them as a central part of its own mission.
@@mitchellosmer1293 Dan 8:14 days = (Strong's) H6150; dusk:- day, even(-ing, tide), night.
It Is Not Years
@@mitchellosmer1293 The interesting thing is in the list of the positions in the church and the gifts of the Holy Spirit
I can't find ACCUSER anywhere. I guess that's part of Satan, the accuser of the brethren and the father of lies list.
@@itsspiritual8645
Satan disguises himself as a beautuful angel of white light..
Soul sleep ?
Eschatology way off
Your human pride + arrogance is sick
Jesus Saves by the. Precious Blood shed His Mercy His Grace alone
Being born again.the Holy Spirit comes to reside within every child of God.
@@mitchellosmer1293
See you cannot either
The MAIN problem with SDA is the institutional promoting, inept, shallow , ambiguous, abstract, obscure teaching methods.
@@eddietomasi6164a new member?
Tell me, did Jesus have older brothers?
Consider that Mary was a virgin when Jesus was born.
@@eddietomasi6164 SDA doctrine is a lot better than Catholic and the rest of Protestants, It's just that the SDA preachers are poorly trained at their seminaries.
Run, don’t walk, run away from the disciples of EW, they teach each other to be “wise as serpents and harmless as doves” but the truth is horrendous. Soul stealers.
@@eddietomasi6164that’s the same way I felt for 4-5 years until I saw how they operate in boards and meetings. The final heresy was when two 70+ year old men, lifelong adventist, simultaneously point to a EW book and call it the bible, twice, and we’re willing to argue about it until I stopped the Bible study in my house. They were beside themselves that they couldn’t make me believe like them…
@@eddietomasi6164 the Holy Spirit doesn't say that the second Goat in Leviticus 16:10 (is the devil )which is (Jesus Christ!!) When you became a member of SDA !!you said that was the truth !!!it's part of your confession of Faith written in the investigative judgment! Guess where that puts you!
@@eddietomasi6164Brother, I left SDA after 50 years. I know I did the right thing. Don’t be desperate to join a denomination. Pray for truth. God Will give it. Be careful. These people are insidious. God bless you. Please read Steve’s book. Very eye opening!
The Great Controversy by Ellen G White is a book about Historicism. It starts out with the Destruction of Jerusalem and takes
us to today. We're living in the last nine chapters. Ellen G White, herself, never claimed to be a prophet. I believe, she said that she was a messenger of God and she was a lesser light to lead to the greater light. If you claim to be a Christian, couldn't you claim to be the same?
No, the Great Controversy is a fiction. Trying to claim it is a historical work is a disgrace to history.
“Ellen G White herself never claimed to be a prophet.”
If you listened to this stream, we talked about this quote. You are misrepresenting it to claim she said the opposite of what she actually said. Which is that she didn’t accept the title of prophet because her work entailed MUCH MORE than that name signified. She was more than a prophet.
“During the discourse, I said that I did not claim to be a prophetess. Some were surprised at this statement, and as much is being said in regard to it, I will make an explanation. Others have called me a prophetess, but I have never assumed that title. I have not felt that it was my duty thus to designate myself. Those who boldly assume that they are prophets in this our day are often a reproach to the cause of Christ.
My work includes much more than this name signifies. I regard myself as a messenger, entrusted by the Lord with messages for His people.
When this work was first given me, I begged the Lord to lay the burden on someone else. The work was so large and broad and deep that I feared I could not do it. I have been weak and feeble physically much of my life, but by His Holy Spirit the Lord has given me ability to perform the work entrusted to me. God has made plain to me the various ways in which He would use me to carry forward a special work. Visions have been given me with the promise, “If you deliver the message faithfully, and endure unto the end, you shall eat of the fruit of the tree of life, and drink of the water of the river of life.”-Letters & Manuscripts, Vol. 20 (1905), par. 8-11 (20LtMs, Lt 55, 1905, par. 8-11)
Furthermore, no, we’ve looked att statement after statement of her own words on this platform, where she is claiming the Holy Spirit authored ALL of her writings, she never wrote one sentence of heresy, to go against her writings was to go against the Spirit of God, the words in her books are barricaded by a thus saith the Lord, rejecting her writings eventually leads to atheism and rejection of the Bible outright, and on and on and on.
No, Christian’s don’t claim to be inspired by the Holy Spirit. Inspiration is not motivation. Inspiration is where God himself is speaking. No, every Christian doesn’t have God dictating revelation to them to reveal to the world as truth one is held accountable to.
Yet this is precisely what Mrs. White claimed about herself. Adventists can try and downplay her, dismiss her, and every other excuse we’ve heard, but it doesn’t change any of these plainly clear statements that are either twisted or downplayed because I think deep down Adventists know they are indefensible.
@@answeringadventism Are anything you write fiction, come from you or inspired from God.
Calling the Great Controversy fiction is all I have to know about you. I'll let people read it themselves
and decide. As I said before it's historicism. Do you know what historicism is, you should.
Are you aware of the Left Behind books being written as fiction?
@@itsspiritual8645 Adventists are quick to recommend all kinds of books an literature written by their apologists and often hand them out to others, but SDAs rarely read material that counters their own narrative. This is insular thinking.
If you are willing to hear some counter-point arguments to The Great Controversy narrative, please check out Dirk Anderson's *_The Fake Controversy_* .
@@answeringadventism I don't really care one way or another about it. I've never based my belief on a person. I'm more concerned that people understand that salvation is by coming a Spiritual Jew. Salvation doesn't come from a church or organization. Salvation is of the Jews - John 4: 21-23; the New Covenant is with the House of Israel and Judah. - Hebrews 8: 8-12 We have a Jewish Savior John 14:6, Jesus Christ. The substance of the New Covenant is the Ten Commandments - Ex 20: 1-17. We have a Sabbath keeping God - Ex 20: 8-11, not Sunday! We need to become a Spiritual Jews to enter the New Jerusalem Romans 2:28-29. There’re twelve gates into the New Jerusalem, named after the twelve tribes of Israel. - Rev 21: 12 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. A Spiritual Jew, not literal Jew. A Christian is a Spiritual Jew! There’s no covenant with the gentiles.
@@answeringadventism What's fiction about The Great Controversy? The Catholic Church has a problem with it.
Is the Secret Rapture fact of Fiction? It appears that you've become a Catholic.
The point was not 1897 or 1898, it was/is the fact that she Plagiarised, Tim was acting smart
@@juligraham7319 Yes plagiarism did exist in the time of Ellen. - she got her ideas from copying others and following her 'angel' of light.
Hey SDA members--I know you are disappointed and/or embarrassed by SDA nonsense associated with leaders and pastors. I get it. I've been going to church for 70 years. SDA Dan & Revelation seminars are basically religious BAIT & SWITCH programs to get people to join SDA Laodiceans and after they are in church they are criticized, by inept, poorly trained SDA pastors, for being tithe robbing, sabbath slacking, love-lacking, lazy, lousy lukewarm Laodicean LOSERS! Then after they have been berated, they are told to "finish the work" and tell everyone the "3 angels messages" to scare them with mark of the beast, Sunday law, close of probation, time of trouble, death decree and last plagues. Soooo do you really care if the SDA denomination CRASHES & BURNS??? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?? HUH??...
@@juligraham7319 Not only did Fannie Bolton know it was wrong (one of Ellen White's "assistants" who was told to "put on the polish"), there were laws since the late 15th century. These laws included making money off of plagiarism. The history of American copyright law originated with the introduction of the printing press to England in the late fifteenth century. As the number of presses grew, authorities sought to control the publication of books by granting printers a near monopoly on publishing in England. The Licensing Act of 1662 confirmed that monopoly and established a register of licensed books to be administered by the Stationers’ Company, a group of printers with the authority to censor publications. The 1662 act lapsed in 1695 leading to a relaxation of government censorship, and in 1710 Parliament enacted the Statute of Anne to address the concerns of English booksellers and printers. The 1710 act established the principles of authors’ ownership of copyright and a fixed term of protection of copyrighted works (14 years, and renewable for 14 more if the author was alive upon expiration). The statute prevented a monopoly on the part of the booksellers and created a “public domain” for literature by limiting terms of copyright and by ensuring that once a work was purchased the copyright owner no longer had control over its use. While the statute did provide for an author’s copyright, the benefit was minimal because in order to be paid for a work an author had to assign it to a bookseller or publisher.
Since the Statute of Anne almost 300 years ago, US law has been revised to broaden the scope of copyright, to change the term of copyright protection, and to address new technologies. For several years, the US has considered and acted on copyright reform. The Canadian government is considering copyright reform as well.
1787: US Constitution
According to Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 of the US Constitution, “the Congress shall have power . . . to promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries.”
1790: Copyright Act of 1790
The First Congress implemented the copyright provision of the US Constitution in 1790. The Copyright Act of 1790, An Act for the Encouragement of Learning, by Securing the Copies of Maps, Charts, and Books to the Authors and Proprietors of Such Copies, was modeled on the Statute of Anne (1710). It granted American authors the right to print, re-print, or publish their work for a period of 14 years and to renew for another fourteen. The law was meant to provide an incentive to authors, artists, and scientists to create original works by providing creators with a monopoly. At the same time, the monopoly was limited in order to stimulate creativity and the advancement of “science and the useful arts” through wide public access to works in the “public domain.” Major revisions to the act were implemented in 1831, 1870, 1909, and 1976.
This is from the association of research libraries.
@@juligraham7319is plagerism stealing, yes or no?
What I can't get my head around is how one woman bullies and pushes around such a large number of strong intelligent leadership-type men. This despite seeing the track record that she was mentally ill. Why did all these people allow themselves to be dictated to by all these false visions? Like the story with some Mayor named Gage, this guy basically according to the story did nothing to defend himself against any of her attacks against him. According to the story, he seem to just have sat quietly while this woman bullied him for no apparent reason apart from the fact that people saw it fit to vote him in as mayor. Why didn't he take her to court or something for writing all those horrible things about him? Instead, he took the letter that she wrote with all the humiliating things about him and read it before the church congregation. It makes no sense. It sounds like she was some kind of mafia boss or something who could have you whacked if you didn't do as she told you to. All these doctors and educators just basically bent over and allowed themselves to be taken advantage of by a feebled-minded old woman. I don't believe it, there is something more to this story. My instinct tells me that maybe these people were connected to some kind of mafia or secret society capable of assassinating people or something. I'm sorry I can't believe fake visions alone would cause men of this kind of stature to behave in such a sheepish submissive manner.
That or and plus
Strong Jezebel spirit.
Existed 2000 years ago still prevalent.
She is very strange
Man, that beeping was driving me nuts. Doing kitchen work and trying to figure out which of my devices is doing that and finding no reason for any to beep. Took me at least 5 beeps to figure out that it's not me 🥲
Same! But I was in the car so I was going crazy trying to figure out why my car was making this weird noise.
Same
🤔 strange was it at a special part of the video?
@@ruthwelterlen9776 Yeah, some time into it, I think after the first half somewhere, don't worry it stopped after a little while
Thank you Dr. Daily!
Your ministry is great because all falsehood must be exposed to save people, and lead them to salvation in Lord Jesus Christ. Amen
I’m watching this video online. I hadn’t heard of Dr Daily, but I just ordered his book. Thank you for all of your work!
I was reading Steps to Christ, then toward the end the whole tone of the writing changed, as if a different person took it over writing. Makes you wonder
Jeremiah 23:30-32. “Therefore,” declares the LORD, “I am against the prophets who steal from one another words supposedly from me. Yes,” declares the LORD, “I am against the prophets who wag their own tongues and yet declare, ‘The LORD declares.’ Indeed, I am against those who prophesy false dreams, ” declares the LORD. “They tell them and lead my people astray with their reckless lies, yet I did not send or appoint them. They do not benefit these people in the least,” declares the LORD.
"The Angel of the Lord encampeth
round about them that fear Him,and
delivereth them.
O taste and see that the Lord is Good:
blessed is the man that trusteth in Him."
Paslm34:7-8
One suggestion: could you put all this lengthy stuff in a summarize of 5 min., please?
lol how absurd I would be willing to bet most critics did not learn about Cannright till after they got into researching SDA heresy. I certainly did not know about him, till you mentioned him in one of your videos maybe 9 months ago.
@@eddietomasi6164 you paid! you just don't know what you paid yet..
I just recently finished reading 'Ellen G White a phycobiography ' .... Wow every Adventist should read it. Looking forward to reading this next book.
I left the church 30 years ago. Still grieving the loss of friends. My heart breaks for those who are still influenced by her lies. Generational curse. John 5:24
The explanation of the 'daily' of Daniel Ellen White copied from Barnes:
Ellen White (1827-1915): “Then I saw in relation to the “daily” (Daniel 8:12) that the word “sacrifice” was supplied by man’s wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the “daily”; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed” (EW, pp. 74, 75, 1882).
Albert Barnes (1798-1870): “The word which is rendered “daily sacrifice” - the word “sacrifice” being supplied by the translators… [the Hebrew word Tamid]…. means, properly, continuance, prepetuity, and then what is continuous or constant - as a sacrifice or service daily occurring. The word sacrifice is properly inserted here” (Barnes’ Notes on The Whole Bible, 1834).
@@eddietomasi6164 if she was( ever wrong)!... And she is accepted as a a true Prophet by SDA..( means she is straight from the devil)!
I am under the impression that only God ultimately pulls one out from under the veil, but I also think that one has to be willing to be pulled out from under the veil when God shows ya. Cognitive dissonance kicks in and it is painful, not only emotionally but it causes physical pain as well and it is this cognitive dissonance one must work through, keep going above and over it with prayer for strength to find the real Jesus Christ and His full Gospel within Scriptures as a whole. It is a battle but the work of finding Christ and the finished Work he accomplished at the cross for us is sooo very worth it. The New Covenant is so much better over any of the old as well as completely different, but again it takes work and study and research to discover it over and above the indoctrination of Adventism's Ellen and the men surrounding her.
Hello. I've been watching your videos, due to them and other sources. I have left the SDA church. I was baptized into the SDA back on November of last year. I barely heard about EGW then, but little by little they've been pushing her books about her. They never sat well with me. There's just too much stuff that you can't find in the Bible. I have a specific question. Where is the writings that she said Jesus had to go into God's Throne room to convince Him to send him to save humanity? I'm currently trying to argue the elder.
answeringadventism.com/did-jesus-have-to-convince-the-father-of-the-crucifixion/
I appreciate the link. And I agree with it 1000% this doctrine places doubt in God's omniscience. But I still don't see which of her writtings has that quote. I would like to show it to the elder of the SDA church that I was attending
@@j.williamfernandez2910after just reading the comments if you follow the link given the there are parts which are highlighted purple which give direct links to each of the EG teachings as given in the answering adventism website. i hope this helps with navagating the website in the future
Great Controversy Chapter 4😉
In fact the entire book reads like a Sci fi movie. I found the Great Controversy very entertaining reading as a sheltered SDA teen( A bookworm,yes!😂) I was told the reason this information was not found in the Bible was that EGW was given special enlightenment from God that no one else had, that’s why she was a prophet. 🤨 Oh really?
2:33:47 you ask about evidence and he says there's evidence but subsequently doesn't provide any. is evidence provided in the book?
@@ronaldchong yup. What he went on to explain is from his book and it’s littered with footnotes and sources. This wasn’t exhaustive as-Steve didn’t want to spoil his book for people.
Thanks Dr. Daily! Excellent job Myles! Keep it up!
If Jesus can break the sabbath , then I can break the sabbath ! If you have a problem with this then take it up with Jesus !
I started coming to the Adventist Church when I was 3. I was adopted by the McCalla family. Ethline was my stepmother. She was a narcissist like Ellen White, and very abusive to me. When I started to read the Bible at 8 years old I was confused when I was reading Ellen Whites's books, because I could not find anything that matched with the Bible. So I stopped reading her books. Now if I need to understand something in the Bible I use TH-cam or Google. She should have had Psychiatric help. But narcissist don't admit anything is wrong with them
Myles, Sir you and your team have my prayers in your monumental task of reaching out to new and questioning Adventists to give them truth.❤
I’ll refer you to Myles own website, Answering adventism. Check out each article, take your pick. 💁♀️. I’m a new subscriber, unfamiliar with this aggressive exchange and it appears I’m stepping in it with both feet! But bear with me, I’m up for the challenge, so bring it on❤
@answeringadventism I’m starting a Christian podcast and would love to get you on to talk on this topic… how do I get in touch?
Thanks brother the light you shed clears my mind, I have been contemplating the transition of Moses and Joshua and actually God showed a work based approach isn’t enough for salvation.
Fantastic program! And thanks for the shout out!! Can’t wait to come there soon! Oh and Every time I hear you (Myles) or Steve, I am amazed at all the new insights I pick up. New perspectives and even new info! Eg, Did you say Hiram Edson had said things about certain races of ‘man’ that he felt confirmed they were not god created? Did I hear that right? And that James had endorsed the pamphlet or magazine it was said in? Once again - Did I hear that correctly?!??!? Anyway. Keep up the GREAT work! Both of you!
Thanks Peter!
Not Hiram Edson, Uriah Smith. He put together a pamphlet regarding EGWs statements on amalgamation (and other things) and stated that any person who looks at these races-the wild Bushman of Africa, the Hottentot Tribes and the Digger Indians of North America-would clearly agree they are not what God intended humanity to be. An obvious by product of man and beast mixing.
Ellen and James then sold roughly 2000 copies at camp meetings.
The sources for all of that are here: answeringadventism.com/was-ellen-g-white-a-racist/
@@answeringadventismyes I read that pamphlet and even showed it to someone and yet they still continued to defend EGW.
Wonderfull presentation and interview praise God
It’s sad that someone is dedicating their life to discrediting Adventist after being Adventist. Satan is working hard on your soul.
I 100% above the mindset that anyone of any religion should do their own homework, and never take the teachings of someone else except the Bible , as truth.
There are false teachers in every religion and as an Adventist I have experienced it. That however does not mean that Adventist isn’t the remnant church.
We all should remain vigilant of false teachers, even within our own ranks.
I feel it's fantastic that finally the truth is being revealed about this toxic 33rd degree eastern star freemasonry witch.SDA destroyed my life.
58:30 what's the deal with arthur white and the six-volume biography? this is news to me.
found it 1:46:25
Sorry you feel that way. I've been an Adventist since 1994. Studying the Bible through Sabbath school has strengthen my faith in Christ. I invite you to truly study the Word. Negativity and attacks do not come from God's Spirit. Be at peace.
Unfortunately studying the Bible through SDA Sabbath School means you are studying through EGW’s lense. It’s not Biblical. I was raised SDA, my grandfather was a pastor of SDA, I’m 4th generation, and Jesus saved me out of this false religion. Read Galatians, Romans and Hebrews (without sabbath school lessons) and ask God for guidance to show you the truth. God bless ❤
I'm very sorry to have to say this to you,But you do NOT KNOW THE HOLY SPIRIT!
YOU WILL NOT FIND THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ANY CULT!
OR IN RELIGION! PERIOD!
MAY THE LORD OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH OF HIS WORD!
"Negativity and attacks do not come from God's spirit"? Are you sure about that? Jesus verbally 'attacks' the pharisee's and was 'negative' in the Gospels. Are you saying that Jesus was not of God? Your logic does not hold up. Your response is typical of those in cults or high control groups such as Mormonism, Islam, and Jehovah's Witness. Reinforcing your beliefs in a comment section does not make it true. I pray that you embrace the true Gospel of Jesus Christ and reject your idols and false prophetess.
Ellen White was a false prophet and Adventism is based on a lie. Get help.
Thanks for writing these books
2:55:40 ""Amalgamation men and the beast" Actually, Ellen White understood the main reason of the global Flood better than you or evn adventists then and now. However, in her time it was impossible and unimaginable, so in her writings there is a more edible theory - the Sethite theory about mixed marriages of believers and non-believers. The theory is completely incorrect in biblical, historical and logical terms. In conclusion, her statement had nothing to do with racism, and her contemporary apologetics did her a disservice with their stupid apologetics. Please do your homework on "Genesis 6 Experiment". I recommend materials of Rob Skiba, Steve Quayle, L.A. Marzulli and others and the book "The Omega Conspiracy" by I.D.E. Thomas
Chimeras, the mix of human and animal DNA, are becoming a reality just as they were before the flood. Today scientists are working on ways to grow human transplantable organs inside of pigs. Before the flood man was more than capable of creating supposably mythical monstrosities like the Minotaur (half-man, half-bull), the Centaur (half-man, half-horse), the Satyr (half-man, half-goat), and others. Remember, that God repented that he made not only man, but the beast also: "...it repenteth me that I have made THEM" Gen 6:7.
As far as man, before the flood, being capable of amalgamation of man and beast, remember that every previous generation was genetically superior, both mentally and physically. See the work by Dr. John Sanford "Genetic Entropy and the Mystery of the Genome" on TH-cam.
Absolutely appalling about the book by Canright’s “secretary”. It’s like Islamic dawah, willing to lie just to get a one up on your opponents.
There is a movement called "the present truth." Have you had videos about this. It's an Adventist off shoot. I've listened to a few sermons by emmanuel nougaisse, and it seems way off in doctrine. Pastor David House exposed this pastor I mentioned above in a video he made on you tube called, " six wives in six years." I'm an evangelical but find it scary that adventist follow mr Nougaisse... it would be interesting your take on these present truth ministries.
I was shunned by one of the Elders which I used to look up to so much . He became a pastor now . His name is Dr. Encil Brown . All I was doing showing him all the videos I had seen and the questions I had about Ellen white . He did not have any answers for me and shunned me , so sad ! As I got closer to our Father in heaven I had asked our father to lead me to the truth and to righteousness and what happened he did he opened my eyes and I started seeing all these videos exposing Ellen white . Now the you tube video with John Ankerberg and Walter.Martin . Walter Martin pulls out a quote that Ellen white had never borrowed anything from anyone and that it came straight from the Holy Spirit ! Another thing is that no one from the sda conferences had the courage to go on John Ankerberg show to defend Ellen white . They knew well they could not defend their dogma ! I think that was so cowardly from the sda conference ! I bet if anyone that would put Ellen white through the test and have Ken samples , Steve Daily , Gillian Ford , and any other theologians. Debate them they will not show up ! So what’s there excuse ?
In my understanding EG White was not a scholer to read other authors, because she was only a class 3 student, but what she wrote about something especially about christian reformation they fall inline with what others have written, what i can say is that just because they reveal the same fact it does not mean that she copied from other authors.
Truth is always bring out criticisms. At least when they attempt to do so, it is good advertisement for those who wish to know both side of the coin. The fact that they do so publicly is my first red flag. The Bible says if you have an issue with someone. Go to them privately and with love, care and prayer deal with the issue. The Bible says those who seek to publicly humiliate someone is linked to the accuser of the brethren. Red flag.
Myles has tattoos all over his body: a Red flag. He is agent of the accuser of the brethren or the accuser under the veil of flesh.
Myles is funded by the Catholic Church to accuse the SDA church members/believers.
God Bless
It is said from James White, the husband of EGW, that he once said (when his position was questioned): "James White to contradict is to contradict the Holy Spirit!" No more words needed! But we also find a similar text in the bible in the Acts of the Apostles 15,28: 'For it pleases the Holy Spirit and us not to burden you except these necessary things:...' - for me this sounds like blasphemy!
Lord, please open the eyes and understanding of your people
Thank you, Steve. I received your book today
Since Ellen saw the elders engaging in having some "me time" instead of attending the meeting, did she ever see any of the sisters using some kitchen implements on themselves in their bedroom or was it just men who were engaging in "secret vice"?
Miles, this is off-topic, but EGW and James, and possibly others, often use the phrase 'lovely Jesus'. Have you done any digging into this phrase? Is there any ontological significance of this adjective? Is this a reference to his 'personality' aka materialism?
Philippians 4:8 KJV
Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are
lovely,
whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Beautiful interview! Truth all the way. Thank you.
Truth, is it really?
Yes! Liberating and Spirit filled.❤. I'm still reading Steve's book and slowly going through it.
From Seventh-day to Seven days Adventist in Christ.
Claiming to be compelled by the Holy Spirit to rebuke people of their sins and claiming to convict people of sin isn't the same thing. Also, legalism can exist in any church, Adventists aren't a special case
Regarding her “more than a prophet” quote. I’m sure y’all know that’s what Jesus said about John the Baptist in Matt. 12:9. Sickening. Her self aggrandizement is nauseating.
Not that you have any control over this, but the LDS is advertising on your videos. I think they messed up on the analytics! This audience is probably the least likely to go to an LDS church! (It could be related to my location - very high LDS population here.)
Steve, don't you respond? He can't stop you. There are ways to get it read.
🤔😒🤕🤕🤕 Disgusted with the crooked cash cow that my sda church is in reality. The level of cowardice and mean hypocrisy ! Unacceptable !
I keep getting thrown off by the "beep beep" during the video. I kept going to my kitchen to see if my microwave or refrigerator was in an alert condition. I finally figured out it was a sound from in the video.
Yes, I think Steve’s smoke detector battery was going out 😅
The woman had no boundaries lol 😅😅😅😅
Mr Myles,
This is my opinion to your ministry..
It took honest men and women in adventism, leaded by the spirit through prayers, faith, and sacrifices to preach the bible truth adventism is preaching today
My question to you: would you please stop attacking the beliefs system of the SDA and start a foundation of your version of truth so that people will choose by themselves whether to believe in your version of truth or not?
It seems you have many churches down the line to criticize and "expose" because they don't align with your belief system, such as Catholic, Methodist, evangelical etc... And it may take your lifetime on earth to criticize rather than to preach whatever truth you believe is true.
You’re a part of a movement that is definitionally an accuser of the brethren, that preaches a false gospel and a false christ. On top of that, you comment a bunch of niceties and falsities that have been addressed on this platform over and over and over again showing the evidence. Primary sources. Not Joe blow SDA with his own personal opinions. No, SDAism wasn’t started by honest men and women just searching for God. You sound extremely ignorant of SDA history and have only ever read it how they have told it to you.
Then you use the classic “if you address us you have to address everyone” excuse. Umm, no, you don’t. People can either be sharp and on the ball really well in one area of be mediocre across the board. I’ve talked about why I felt called to this specific focus-because I was equipped to do so and no one else was doing it. I have a unique relationship to Adventist, not just a random outsider that decided to address Adventistm. Did you bother to look into any of this?
There’s already plenty of outlets out there addressing Catholicism, Mormonism, etc. I started this platform with a specific cause and focus. Which you are obviously in the dark on and didn’t even bother to look into.
Go read the mission statement of the platform. This platform obviously isn’t for you. It isn’t about you. It’s about Christian’s. This is your first comment (we can see). When you don’t even bother to look into what you’re criticizing your opinion means very little.
You also dealt with no a single thing discussed here which is typical with some of you.
@@answeringadventism Yes Mr Myles, I did not deal with a specific thing stated in this video, after watching many of your videos I got confused and decided to ask this here knowing that I do not have any means to reach out to you. Above all you do I personally find anger in the many presentations, you are not being patient (please show love) with SDAs.
the "honest men and women" you speak about dont exist.You come off as a sincere believer and im not trying to pick on you at all friend. However myles is right. Your people have a follow us or go to hell mentality with EGW as your god with the real God left to the side. When she gets questioned for the most part ive personally gotten nothing but aggrivation, rudeness, and have literally been laughed at in groups. You people dont deserve love until you can give it yourselves. Adventist arent loving, you just want people to join your fake religion.
Still watching/listening to the video. This Jud Lake, Adventist Apologist who talks about how Adventism reformed in 1888 needs to learn the concept of "the Fruit of the Poisonous tree". You cannot completely erase the effects of a heretical theology when that heresy frames the other doctrines of the group. Besides this there is a lot of double mindednesses in Adventism when it comes to their reforms vs. staying true to their founders. It really reminds me of the parable of the foolish and wise builders, as well as the verse about a man "serving two masters". Adventists are always flip flopping around on issues. When it comes to things like the importance of Sabbath sometimes it seems like a passive aggressive bait and switch. Because on places like certain Christian internet forums they have to agree on certain beliefs like the Sabbath does not pertain to salvation etc. but that is obviously problematic when it comes to their official theology.
Please when you invite a guest on, allow the guest to do most of the talking.
Steve did do most of the talking. I have separate audio tracks to validate. And my talking was to facilitate and lead us through the presentation.
Thieves don't get to heaven.
Thank you for these presentations. God is Good and God is faithful. And full of grace. Adventism is falling has fallen
Why no mention of Walter Rea?
i am not an sda member but know something of their history and theology and can only think this guy is but one more frustrated, angry ex-adventist with an axe to grind...'the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus'....compare EVERYTHING to those two truth statements and the background texts verifying their truthfullness and quit the childish contests of personalities...
Assuming this is true. These are serious accusations. What difference would it make to the doctrines of the church that come from the bible?
Then get Steve’s book and refute the primary sources like SDA scholarship has failed to do but instead has attacked him personally.
What difference does it make? You guys have a doctrine of Ellen White being divinely inspired and correcting of inaccurate interpretations of scripture. She’s supposedly the identifying mark of the remnant church because Jesus is speaking through her writings.
Yeah, if that’s not true, it’s kind of a big deal. It means Ellen doesn’t pass the biblical sniff test and you aren’t the remnant. Which brings the whole house of cards down because it’s a system and it’s all dependent upon other doctrines.
As G.I. butler rightly admitted-Ellen is to the SDA Church what the keystone is to the St. Louis arch.
I’ve noticed you don’t speak against the Sabbath doctrine
We’ve done entire segments dedicated to the subject.
Amen
Viewing 12/10/24 excellent interview ❤
When you leave adventism you get hit with the mind whip pen from men in black
Wow!! Thank God for giving such knowledge. And thanks for doing this video and all others that feature. I pray for you. God bless and protect you and your family.
Matthew 7:1-5 King James Version
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Application of the quote, please?
Egw judged non-stop.
Hey! A popular TH-camr named Jideon recently deleted all his prank videos and turned Christian, now his channel is GiDeon where he makes only Christian content, but he has a whole video of the Sabbath endorsing it, worried he will convert down the SDA pipeline and bring a lot of young unassuming people with him
Is he referring to Saturday as the Sabbath, because if not, I’m not that worried. Also, Seventh-Day Baptists are actually Christians unlike SDAs.
@@juligraham7319just because someone attends church on sundays, doesn't mean they "hate" the sabbath. As a matter if fact, I love resting on saturdays.
@@eddietomasi6164 Revelation 12 is not a written to you.!. you destroyed Daniel 9:27.. to come up with that foolish thinking!. There's no Sabbath connected to Revelation 12 in the first place...
@@juligraham7319
That so many people in the world 'hate' the Sabbath is irrational SDA hysteria. Have youconsidered that many Jewish people observe their Sabbath and that it isn't an issue with:
1. Over 2 billion Christians
2. 1.9 billion Muslims
3. 1.16 billion Hindus
4. Over half a billion Buddhist
5. The billions of people in other religions.
Source- World Population Review- internet
Most people don't know and/ or aren't interested in who SDA's are and confuse SDA's with Jehovah's Witnesses.
Anyhow there are people in the world who not only don't go to a job on Saturday but they worship God everyday.
But what the SDA church means by observing Sabbath is supporting their version and SDA's are not consistent at all as there are those high up in the church who make all kinds of interest and financial profit every day including Saturday.
I know that SDA's are waiting for Ellen White's version of Revelation to happen where after some spiritualism and false miracles that the SDA church will suddenly be the central focus of the world.
I am glad to be living in the days where knowledge is increasing and many are learning that Ellen White was involved in spiritualism like so many others in her time, and that the SDA church teachings are based on Ellen White and not on the bible that is the inspired Word of God.
Andrew, I've been in Gideon's discord server a bit the last month, and his "pastor" brother Josh is really gatekeeping Gideon. There's been lots of debates in voice chat and people trying to get Gideon's ear to get away from the Sabbath and other judaizing ideas, as well as get him to look at a proper view of the Trinity (bro. Josh believes only the Father and son are God, the Spirit is just an energy to him, so it's a dyad instead of triad).
The rules have massively changed this past month to not allow any discussion outside of what's accepted. In a way it's helped some people question "wait, why isn't this allowed to be discussed?" And they come to other servers to talk, but others just submit and accept the rules. It's very hard to set up discussions with Gideon to connect him with somebody that has a different viewpoint. It is sad and dangerous.
its a self serving analogy .. my friend it doesnt make sense
Enjoyed the video, but was disappointed that Dr. Daily was not able to address his critics statements without attacking them personally and name calling. There is no way for me to know, but I wonder if there is still some residual SDA in him.
Steve responds to the critics in his books which, the paper by Alberto Timm was in response to. It was Timm who resorted to name calling and when Steve was asked about it, he simply said he wasn't impressed and they entirely missed the mark by not actually addressing the criticisms, but attacking him personally.
I think Steve simply recognizes this and stands by his homework. Saying this as someone who they have done the same thing to.
@answeringadventism it is natural for those who've left the Adventist church to feel hurt by how their former friends and colleagues treat them. Timm may have started the name calling, but in my opinion, Steve stooped to a similar level in this interview.
There is a pastor by the name of Ivor Myers. You will find him on TH-cam. He does not identify as Adventist, but if you look on his site you will see that he is. Very charismatic and can pull people into the church by deceit. Check him out. I entered a comment on one of his videos which was promptly removed.
We will be responding to him January 18, 2024.
Why is your church membership in decline? You can't grow your church with your theology and expect us to fall for it?? Go do something worthwhile.
Can't fault EWhite her books ..
Not born adventist ...
She only leads you to jesus ..
What are you trying to get here?
All talk but no bible study
I’m making my way through this lengthy video. What a wonderful fascinating interview! Mr. Daily I’m looking forward reading your new book. I knew about Nancy’s story of her grandmother but I got a lot of new information from your interview. Thank you.❤
0:05 rude coffee worship..
SDA's are people like you and me - what did you expect - little gods? Hmmm - just use common sense: they all miss something for rightousness and justification. I was raised in an SDA family in Germnay - not very conservative, but i questioned everything they told me when i grew up. I compared doctrines to other believes and denominations and some hold true others obviously wrong. Things that are completely messed up and wrong is the whole story about 1844 (expected Jesus second coming to earth), afterwards promoted as re-establishment of the Holy Sanctuary in heaven! Its all ridicoulous. Also i never agreed to E.G.White as beeing a prophetess (she didn't either claim that ever) - and i am aware that je had stolen lots of her writings from other autors without giving proper respect or even mentioning that. Thats not only unfair, thats massively lying imho. Nevertheless all others have their own problems - you can be absolutely sure! ;-)
This is priceless. Someone loose their leg in a hay accident. I thought hay way supposed to be soft
😅😅😅😅. Steve dont you mean amputee. Not the man had a peg leg 😂😂😂😂😂😂
And the Catholics claim to have changed the Saturday, Sabbath to Sunday, the first day, as a day of worship. The Sabbath is Saturday, the 7th day of the week. The Sabbath is the Lord’s Day of the Bible.
Catholics didnt CHANGE the Day of REST . The Early EARLY church did. Paul even mentioned churches meeting on SUNDAY . Plus. Sabbath " Sabbaton" in the greek isn't seen after Colossians 2 ( where GOD tells us not to judge people on things like New moon , Sabbaths and others)
@@ScottFrye000111222 So you're trying to tell me that the church changed what God Sanctified and made Holy, by who's authority? Acts 13: 42-44 KJV - 42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. 43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God. 4 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
@@ScottFrye000111222 Apparently, Adam and Eve were under grace and sinless when God created, sanctified and made the Sabbath a holy day. Do you prefer the Catholic Sun Worship on Sunday?
@@itsspiritual8645 I agree with you brother good point.
What are they really getting here in this channel?
Other than criticising White.
Don't understand where his going here ?
Infact they are trying do the same with marriage. The marriage God blessed between man and woman, its now slowly being converted in some churches. Same sex is now being blessed to attract gay couples into the church, soon will be promoted heavily. Then much later, in about 200 years to come, find verses in the Bible to support the same. Just like they did change the sabbath with the aim of attracting pagans into the church. Then we shall find it hard, explaining to the world that God only blessed marriage between man and woman just like we do with sabbath
@1:35 xD xD xD You FUNNY Myles! xD Anyway, I _CANT BELIEVE_ she went THAT FAR!!!'' The _public accusation_ is way worse than the act in my opinion, and that's not taking into account she was a false prophet.
Great work
And what are you doing right now yourself. Are you not picking on someone yourself. Did not Jesus say “Whosoever is without sin themself let them cast the first stone.” Yes He did.
Who threw any stones here? You realize that wasn’t about metaphorical word stones right? The law called for adulterers to be stoned…literally. With real stones. Not critiques with “word” stones.
Care to actually deal with the facts presented instead?
@@answeringadventism they had words alright. Yes just like we do and you and everyone else. They told Jesus, remember?
The bible tells us to fight for the faith... that's what this man is doing...it also tells us to Expose the Darkness... that is also what this man is doing... blessings in Jesus 🙏
Your "stop and go" speech is very annoying.!
1:35
@answeringadventism
Bless your heart.
Your entire premise is based on the assumption that you are correct.
It’s not bearing false witness if you happen to be on the wrong side of an argument. The “euphemism” you elude to is based on your misunderstanding and misinterpretation of Protestant Theology. This was established at the conclusion of the Council of Trent:
“Tradition, not Scripture, is the rock on which the church of Jesus Christ is built.”-Adrien Nampon, Catholic Doctrine as Defined by the Council of Trent, p. 157
“Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God... The Church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.”
-Catholic Record, September 1, 1923.
As I continually point out to you, your “New Creation” theology is Catholic, not Protestant. It’s tradition, not Scripture.
Your entire premise is based on your assumption you are. Correct!! (Your own words.)!. you can't get there without believing the( first lie).. in in the first place. subtract 457 from 2300.. you had to believe that was 1844 in the fall to believe the rest of the lies.. a true Prophet can't lie. Leviticus 18. She puts you in Galatians 1 you're not going to come out! You can't!
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@@jimbob1644
Jimbob do you ever make any sense? Do you have a learning disability or something?
I see you are still parroting the same ol’ nonsense in every comment section. Try to stay with the actual statement I make and stay away from the tangents. One thing at a time Jimbob.
Nothing in what I posted here has anything to do with SDA theology. I learned it as a Baptist, my friend. Long before I even set foot in an SDA Church. So what I believe about Sabbath doctrine is irrelevant to what you believe about the SDA Church. You would already know this if you understood anything about the Church Council outcomes, specifically the Council of Trent. Since it predates Adventism, it has zero to do with EGW or the SDA Church.
So instead of the nonsense you just posted, how bout tell us what the outcome of Trent says about Sabbath vs Sunday? Which is Biblical and which is purely Catholic Tradition?
To the extent of the alleged plagiarism by Ellen White, it would seem that an individual with limited education would have to read insurmountable amounts of others writings to incorporate them into her own writings, that is unless she had several individuals assisting her in doing so. It appears from all the books and articles she wrote, that throughout her life she was consistently reading, copying, and writing. Quite amazing! Any thoughts?
Please explain what imorality Ellen G White did?
😮A "True" prophet's prophecies will come true ; so that's the only valid criteria to use except , also, the prophet will not speak contrary to the Scriptures.
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