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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ม.ค. 2019
- First look at the new Dualtron 3 high performance electric scooter from Minimotors. I provide my impressions after putting on the first 100 miles.
The electric scooter industry is in its infancy. There are lots of choices out there (most are toys) but only a few are truly high performance...meaning speed, range, and a chassis that holds up. It appears that Dualtron is positioning themselves as a top contender in the performance electric scooter market.
Please post your comments and questions and I'll try and get back to you. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
That was a good review, and high praise for the company that sold you the product, well done to both and you have a good friend to loan you his scooter for an extended period of time.
Welcome in Dualtron club ! :) And great job Minimotors USA, this is how proper customer service should look!
Good review and looking for more :)
Great review. Looking forward to the update. 👍
Very nice job on the review, it was extremely detailed.
Thanks! Love your channel as well.
@@DIYMark what is the P setup for reneg brakes? or is it automatically on?
That was nice review for Dualtron Thunder. That's wright.
A deeper review will be much appreciated! Thanks for the video.
You sound like a loose women. It was deep enough mmmmkay?
The only serious review on TH-cam !👍
What a review mate! Great work! Thank you.
Wow! what an awsome review, top notch down to every tight little editing and grammer detail. all camera shots very professional and high quality as with sound. how is this not a review from a huge professional youtube channel? DUDE you NEED to start doing car reviews you are so easy to listen to and informative. loved the detail about play in the barring most people wouldnt even notice. Keep up the awesome videos man I would love to see you just start doing car reviews on whatever you can test drive alone brand new and people WILL watch. Good luck in life my friend.
Thanks for the kind words! It’s a pleasure when someone gets
value from the videos. I’m still learning but I do try to put some critical
research into my reviews. It’s really nice to get such positive feedback. There
are a lot of naysayers out there and sometimes I have a hard time not taking it
personally when they throw rocks. So really appreciate you taking the time to
give me a boost. Cheers!
Please make another vid! Im close to purchasing the DT3 and your vid is basically the only intelligent one i could find that really talks in depth about the 3. In english that is. Tons of vids in french and russian tho for some reason. So yes, pls, follow up!
Love the honest review.
I like the Dualtron Thunder.
Not for top speed, but miles per charge.
Thanks brother!
Best review about the dualtron.
He just compared the bird© type scooters to your average 4door sedan and the dueltron to a supercar that's a bit of a stretch exaggerating is a form of lying lol
BAYAREA RAISED its not a stretch once you have tested and compared them both. It’s superior in design, quality of materials and performance by a long-shot.
@@bayarearaised1894 he is absolutely right in the comparison!
KITKIKO11 id
75 miles per charge!?!?! Thats INCREDIBLE! Best scooter ive researched yet. Great review.
Who told you that?
Nice review, made me think of owning one. thank you
Thanks for the review. That steering column movement is a deal breaker. My friends Inokim OX has no such play.
Excellent review! Just bought an Emove Cruiser but this is my next one for sure!! Cant wait to get this scooter!!!
Same here. I love the Emove Cruiser range and I've gotten mine to 30mph. It's awesome but can you imagine 50mph??
@@jrwaugh72 I bought a Veteran Sherman electric unicycle and its top speed is 50mph! Its so fun my scooter collects dust now 😆
You're video isn't the fanciest but you do a really great job of covering all aspects of the scooter. I think we tend to lean toward the higher end productions and favor them for their visual appeal. You are very thorough and very detailed. There is no doubt your videos will only get better and better if you continue to produce them. It's a good reminder to stay focused on important information. Thank you.
Thanks for the kind words Ken. I am a one man band...but you're right I want to focus on the details rather than the fluff.
Very nice review! My brother and I just received our dualtron spiders last week. Lots of power and a little easier to lift at 44 pounds.
Thank you for the great review.
Now this is a Quality, NON-hurried. Steady Paced. Relevant. Seasooned Intro Review from someone who has lived life. No crazy, annoying offbeat music in the background, no sponsored material (it's inherently eternally conflicting - you want to provide "good" reviews for free goods/ad dollars). In 10 minutes, you've given more insights than 90% of high octane 2 minutes "features" overviews (they call it a review, I call it advertising) by most youtubers. 👍
Best review about the duatron
Very nice review!!
EXCELLENT review 👏
More more! The crowd demands more
Very informative and entertaining as well.
I’d like to know why the wheels locked up, and whether that could be expected again with the new replacement or how soon?
Great video!!
Wow. Would love one of them. Awsome
Great review. I have been using dualtron for about 3 years now. Think you were very unlucky with the motor. Mine have been flawless and the batteries are top quality. Can’t imagine not owing one now I take it everywhere. Just trying to work out how to send battery overseas when I take holidays because dualtron has to come with me everywhere 😁
Don't come to the UK, they're illegal here.
canturgan I don’t take notice of those silly Laws. Sometime have to make own sensible decision. Ride safely and not flat out. Way better for environment, less cars causing traffic jams and lots more fun for rider. I been riding WAY over powered scooter and bikes for years and never any trouble because always sensible
@@samrichards8251 The British have a strange attitude towards scooters, they hate them even though they are very rarely seen. There is an American company trying to get the law changed so it might be different in a couple of years but at the moment you could attract a large fine if you're caught using one on the road. Imbeciles running things here, just look at Brexit.
canturgan thats very annoying. These types of scooters are the perfect solution for most cities. So pathetic they are not allowed. Makes you wonder what drives that sort of madness. Maybe oil $
Please can you do a review of the Dualtron Spider - your review of the D3 is great!
Great review
Hey! I had the same problem but managed to fixed it. When your motor vibrates at a Low speed, it’s motor cable are not connected properly or it could also be burned. When I took out my cover my cables was totally burned and when I unplugged the burned cable the motor didn’t have a resistance to turn and was perfectly fine. So if you ever came across this problem, I would advise you to either change connecters or just have a look if the wires are burn.
Now that I come to think of it, I have had several folding scooters, kick and electric, and I eventually realized in each case that it was rarely necessary to fold them. I prefer the idea of no fold and no wobble.
I got lucky and bought a solid stem Segway Ninebot Max. Perfect.
very good review, i wish i could make this same sort of review for peter and jonas from another company.
Did have the steering head slop on the replacement scooter ?
Thanks for this!
Nice review
Thank you for this review, been a great help! Were you able to address the steering column play issue? In your video, there seems to be quite a lot of play.
Hi Bruno, glad you found the video helpful. Regarding the steering play....since I had two of them (failed and current) both have the same amount of play. Hence it is baked into the design. It definitely could be better but it doesn't affect the operation or control much.
Great Video, great company also...⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
You may want to look at turning on the cruise control feature. My girlfriend has a lot of hand discomfort as well and engaging cruise control is a good way to make longer rides more comfortable for her. We have a Dualtron 2 Limited
Sorry to hear about the hub motor failure, I never heard of them going bad like that so early.
@@Duf Yeah. Hopefully just a manufacture defect. No issues with the replacement.
The best review never before make ever
Do they ship to the great white north eh?
I have been so impressed with the email service provided by mini motors USA. I could easily be a window shopper as far as they know but they still go to great lengths to answer every annoying little detail for me. I even got an immediate reply on a Saturday! This is unheard of amongst our lazy ass bogan retail outlets here in Australia. I look forward to making the purchase of my own Dualtron. Thanks for the review.
Great concise thorough review much enjoyed and hipping me to Mini Motors!
Planning to get the Dualtron eagle pro, any opinion on that?
Won't regret buying a Dualtron
Good review. Have you had a chance to test top seed, yet?
Also, have you had a chance to adjust some of the settings, such as the Regen Braking and acceleration at start up?
Yeah but the jury is still out. Top speed wise I hit 40 mph. Still messing with Regen. Right now I have it off...but just started testing with it off. Even on setting 1 it is quite pronounced and takes some getting used to. I have it set for no accel at start...just seems safer. Have got nearly 200 miles on the new one (replacement) with no issues so far.
Hi picked up a Thunder 3 last night I ordered from
a NYC shop, charged it all night & wanted to lift
stem to find metal part that hold silver locking
pins & set screws missing metal on both sides,
does Minimotors have a return policy, this looks
extremely dangerous???
Great review. Did the set a limit on the speed? I know MMusa has a resistor cable to slow down the scooter
JustNeL
It’s a grey wire clip that controls the speed limit. If you unplugged the grey wire, you will have unlimited speed. Drive Safe
This might be my next scooter. My current one is Zero 10x which I chose mostly for suspension. I don't know if this one is as good. Anyways I love mine and will hopefully go many years with it. Was just curious what's the hype about with the Dualtron.
How to sitting it to make top speed of 100 km/h 75 mph ? I'm asking this because if you siting it from the screen it will make over 82 km/h
57 mph, So did I have to instal app for phone to sitting it or there is another way? And if you can siting it from phone then which app we should use? Sorry for the long message I just really need to know how to fix it. And I think that everyone wants to know this.
So overall what was the issue with the 🛵
Thanks for the review. You'd mentioned about your finger getting tired, I thought the DT3 had cruise control
Hi Rick. Yes it does. But the rides I typically do it's of little use...hilly terrain with lots of speed ups and stops. Kinda like trying to use cruise control in city traffic.
diymark I see, in that case I’m really hoping they’ll change the stem to allow for adjustable height and fix the issue with the “play”, haven’t heard that brought up on any other review but seems might be an issue over time.
I was already planning on buying a dualtron 3. But your experience with customer service although I am sure that he can't visit everyone all around the country has made me give it a definite. I can't wait to take that ride. Thank you for sharing
Great you guys over there don't need to register it
Don't know if yoyr a salesman...but the service itself got me...definitely gettin one
Nice job. Appreciated no background music and factual content. And agree that stem flex and one finger throttle are areas that need improvement on most scooters.
Is the suspension quiet on the 3? Is it compliant? I considered the Spider, but opted for an eMove Cruiser for water resistance rating because I'm in the rainy Northwest. It has coil springs in front and they rattle quite a bit. And 10" wheels on poor road surfaces quite jarring. Yeah, one handing is to be done only with extreme care. Too bad as it would be nice to be able to use hand signals.
Thanks for the kind words. Interesting about noisy coil springs. Not an issue on the dualtron. I just posted a 10 month update on the scooter and highlight what I've learned. And talk a bit more about the suspension.
th-cam.com/video/nSNRhm3XtKE/w-d-xo.html
great video dude, im planning on getting one of these overpriced monsters soon
Is it possible to switch the brakes so that the right brake is for the rear tire & the left is for the front tire?
Hi Victor. I'm sure it is possible, as the brake lever perches are independent. But not trivial....the cable routing would likely be a bit of work.
The finger throttle doesn't give the precise and controlled power I'm accustomed to on my electric unicycle. You're spot on, gotta have a twist throttle on future models.
That's why I held off on buying an electric scooter. I don't understand why they don't put a regular grip twist throttle on the scooters. Kawasaki Ninja 1000 rider here.
That sealed the deal. Minimotors customer service. Anyone can sell you (whatever) but to stand behind it with no B.S.? I'm not easily impressed but that was good. Very good.
Excellent vid. I have the nanrobot d4+ and I noticed that your scooter and mine shared some of the same components. Was it hard to take the top cover off to the battery compartment? I can't figure out how to take mine off. I think it might be glued or something.
Hi Danny, I agree it seems many of parts are shared across scooter brands. My friend Gary's apocalypse has identical switches. Making me think they are sourced from the same Chinese vendor.
The deck covering the battery compartment was ez on the Dualtron. But again Gary's apocalypse was sealed with silicon caulk. We had luck releasing it by using a heat gun on low and patience.
@@DIYMark You got me thinking of replacing or modifying the throttle. My hand cramps a little during long rides
Hi there do you still have your D3? and if so what's your view now on the ABS? I just picked mine up today, cheers Mat.
Hi Mat. Welcome to the Dualtron family! I could not get the ABS to work well for me. Or the Regen brake setting. I have turned off both and just run normal brake mode (setting in the controller...you'll see it in the manual). If you have not seen it, I did do an update video where I go over some things I've learned in the last year. Including some maintenance items.
th-cam.com/video/nSNRhm3XtKE/w-d-xo.html
This looks amazing but I was thinking about getting the qiewa q1 hummer as it's much lighter, despite the speed and range being lower. It still goes 30-35mph and has a really long range. If i have to carry the qiewa into my place of work every day, it will be much easier to do so. Plus it's significantly cheaper. If i were to get a scooter solely for any other reason besides work, I'd probably look at getting yours instead. The lower speed in the qiewa isn't a huge drawback either being as I would be riding it in an urban city anyways.
No my friend, the Qiewa Q1hummer wont get close to 30 Mph. I had it and the top speed i got was 26 Mph. Measured With GPS, thats why i got the QPower instead.
Please be aware that with the dualtron 3 the electric brake and the acceleration from the start can be adjusted in 5 steps each. You may very well want to tune both down to the middle setting to get a smoother ride. Being able to finetune this is one of the biggest strenghs of the minimotors scooter.
You only got that replacement so quick because I'm sure you told mini-mart of your chanel. Did the replacement have that same stirring play? I too would consider buying one - the stirring play
Steering play was exactly the same on the replacement. It's inherent to the design. My friend Gary's Apocalypse scooter (featured in the video) has the same symptoms.
Do you know what is the weight without the battery (you told us that the weight with battery included is 80 pounds)
Sorry I don't.
Are you still riding it ? has it been riding good? Did it have any more issues?
Thanks & Awesome video!
Thanks for the kind words. MY replacement DT3 has been great. I've got nearly 600 miles on it. I plan to do an update video soon.
Good review man. Ride safe, but why you didn't picked up the dualtron thunder? Or x model
Thanks for the comment Seby. Cost was the reason I chose the DT3 over the thunder. I felt the 3 was a good compromise. The X is not available here in the states yet as far as I know. But it looks amazing.
@@DIYMark I am excited to inform you that the ZERO 10X is available in the USA. I have a LOT of them in stock as well as spare parts. www.revrides.com or email Nathan@revrides.com
Great review by the way. Minimotors' developed great scooters but price is premium. The Zero scooters are an amazing value.
Well customer service is rare...that being said would I've got the same customer service living in Brooklyn New York??....
I hope so....lol but regardless I'm really loving this scooter I know ur getting good workmanship then those China brands...
I'm glad you took your time explaining the scooter I'm sold on it just need to save up for one!!!..
Hi mark so can u get the scooter to the 40mph mark, I am about to buy one here in san Francisco next month. I tried out the thunder yesterday but it was to fast for me and a little to big?
Hi Jason. I would say top speed is 38 which it has no problem reaching even on a slight incline. It's perfect compromise scooter for me. Power to handle the hilly terrain where I live and good slow speed handling for tricky sections. I'm happy 😊
@@DIYMark I heard 40mph easily?
@@DIYMark I am also surprised u didnt go for the thunder
A retired motorcycle adrenaline guy gets a scooter awesome, I’m on a scooter too but top speed is 15 mph, time for an upgrade
You won't regret it 15mph is good but you don't feel that rush
Just recently purchased a dualtron 3. Are there guides or suggestions you can share with how you removed yours?
Hi Geese. Removed what? I do have a follow up review where I talk about tire/brakes removal and replacement. th-cam.com/video/nSNRhm3XtKE/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps!
FIVE Thumbs for mini motors customer service!!!
Dualtron spider has the same play on handle bar ?
Hi Alex. I don't have access to a spider but I suspect it does as it is similarly designed.
Is it waterproof?
Is it ok to use during rainy days?
I have had no problems with water during the two times I got caught in the rain. But it wouldn't be my first choice of transportation in the rain. Scooters are already a bit sketchy...add water on the ground and you are asking to talk to the pavement.
What caused the problem
Nice review. How does it ride off-road - obviously not mountain bike type runs but in parks.... I use my current PEV to "walk" the dogs and prefer to stay on the grass away from the paths, and people.
Hi Jayesh. Haven't really used it on grass. It clearly is design for paved surfaces. But I think they are headed in that direction. The Dualtron X looks off-road ready.
How much $$$ is it ?
Is the Dualtron 3 same torque/max speed as Limited?
So limited means that the scooter will only travel 15 miles per hour as required by some local scooter regulations. This is controlled by the internal computer of the scooter through a hard wire connection. When the hard wire connection is broken, via disconnection of wire the scooter will make power to its full potential. Hopefully that answers your question if I understand it correctly.
Fantastic job. No music or drone footage. Just facts.
Getting my dualtron.ultra sent to Honolulu next week from minimotors usa.....63 year old surfer dirtbike and pool skateboarder in the 70s.
Aloha
Konaboyz🤙👍🏄♂️
You're gonna have fun!
I posted a 10 month 1000 mile update on the DT3 on my channel that you might enjoy.
th-cam.com/video/nSNRhm3XtKE/w-d-xo.html
I want it!!!
mmm, not a lot of "how to DIY" vids out on Dualtron's compared to Falconpev's Zero series ...suggest you check & tighten main bolt under bottom of steering column with big allen key, good dualtron shop unboxings check it, zero 10x has 2 tiny allen locking-lugs also ...l've ordered a Dualtron3, first in NZ ...found 2 different bolt-on carry handles(1 is shiny stainless steel) on net, but 3 deck too short to fit it on top of back suspension unit combined with T-bar clip activated/locked/folded, will fit on Thunder ...Dualtron 3 & Thunder first e-scooters to fit tubeless tires ...l do research
Wow! Terrific review! You'd think the company itself sunk the $$$ in to producing this video it's that good.
But what's the stability like at 40 MPH? A bird or lime doesn't feel particularly stable at their 18mph top speed, but at 40mph? Honestly, how are potholes handled? On a bird, i almost lose control if they're like over 1" deep, making me wonder if that's the reason for the scooters brand name: it's what you become if the pothole is deep enough... I wonder what happens when hitting a similarly sized pot hole at 40mph with this beast of a scooter!
Hi Glenn thanks for the kind words. Stability is something these scooters need to work on. To be frank it's ride-able at 40 but with white knuckles. But worlds better than a bird or lime which were not meant to go over 15.
I don't even know if it's worth it anymore man! I've went through so much problems with a
D2 ex in 3 months time ...that I'm afraid to even invest in to minimotors again.
I loved it, but the frustration of it became way too much to deal with. I need something reliable and i don't know if I can with another dualtron 😩
What other scooter do you recommend instead of dualtron ?
Giorgos Asikis something cheaper so you save money for the reapairs. 😀 go for chinese, every scooter is made there just have different name and design.
Great review 🤙🏽
For anyone who’s riding dultrons, how’s the suspension
I’m currently riding a bolt scooter 🛴 and can feel everything/bumps on the road
you dont get better than a Dualtron, i love my Dualtron, if you buy one you wont regret it
@@CallOfDutyMenace ha ha ya I asked this a year ago it says and since I've gotten a thunder and have a nanrobot
Would like to get a Nami viper
@@Paperchasen83 lol i didnt even notice but that being said, how sick are Dualtrons? i want to get a Kaabo to compare them
@@CallOfDutyMenace I love it, the build look power etc is amazing
I do however like the suspension of the nanrobot better
Hi, does it still work and have you had any more issues with the scooter?
Works great! It's got 2K miles on it now. Tires wear out a bit fast. No issues with keeping a charge and still just as fast/powerful. I did a follow up about a year and a half ago at 1K miles.
th-cam.com/video/nSNRhm3XtKE/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for super fast replay 😀👍 I’ll check it out!
I was at Minimotors(Los Angeles)yesterday, tried out 3,ultra &thunder. Jesus ultra and thunder ARE TANKS I gotta go with the 3 for easier manageability, the extra weight ,size &only 10mph faster not worth it or the extra cash for it.
Wow nearly feel asleep listening to this! And how much is it? Have to retire before I can afford that price
3000
This is the mother of all scooters.
So how has it been holding up? Check out my follow up video 10 months and 1000 miles later.
th-cam.com/video/nSNRhm3XtKE/w-d-xo.html
How much they go for
$3000-$6000. They're crazy. You can get a new Honda Moped for that price.
Hodaka?
Would it be possible to lift this up a single flight of stairs?
Possible Yes. Desirable No. It's pretty heavy for a single person.
Dualtron Thunder and Speedway 5 are the best products u can get from them in terms of what they offer for the money... Keeping in consideration the weight, Watts included etc.
I think the Dualtron 3 is sweet spot between those 2.
I have the samething. But how come ur scooter go faster then mine?
Hi Frankie. What kind of top speed are you seeing from your DT 3?
@@DIYMarkthe fastest I can go is 14 mph.
@@frankieng5810 Take a look at this video it may be helpful. th-cam.com/video/OsweY34Ne5w/w-d-xo.html
Are these made in America?
Designed in Korea. Manufactured in China.
Good review,nice scooter albeit expensive and heavy which is why i chose the worlds most popular electric scooter and am extremely happy with it. (Xiaomi M365)
skeelo69 m365 you don’t have freedom to ride all day,or off-road
@@spicyrightwing i dont need to
Were you ever told why the motors failed, and has it ever happened again?
Was told it was factory defect, but no specific detail. I've got 400 miles on the replacement scooter so far. No issues.
@@DIYMark - thanx for your response.
FYI... I just hit *like* at 999, expecting to see 1,000. But...
The *like* reset to 990 instead.
The system, is rigged to hold you back?
***Why?***
ABS with cable brakes yeah right, Ditto regen braking from a disc brake with no wiring. The hub motor regenerates not the brakes.