I laughed so hard at the game where your HP goes down as you run. If I couldn't figure out where to go, and I lost health for looking around, I would totally RAGE QUIT!!!
Technically, FF's reputation wasn't really that low when FFX-2 came out. Spirits Within was the big first sour taste, but even that was an honest failure on Sakaguchi's part than a hollow, soulless cash-grab. FFX-2 feels more like the earliest sign of the mismanagement to come after Wada took over.
Around the 14:06 mark I had to pause the video and just rant to myself about the graphics. This is abysmal. You can't have it both ways. You can't have an anime girl in a 3D world. Either go full blown visual novel, or cough up the money for a 3D model. You can't have your anime fan service if you aren't willing to draw the backgrounds. And you can't have 3D anime fan service if you aren't willing to cough up the money for decent 3D models. I don't care if this game has the best gameplay mechanics of the decade. No gameplay can excuse those graphics, holy shit.
Lunar Dragon Song is so sad, because there's no reason it had to be a bad game at all. 4 main issues: 1. You have to choose whether to get item drops OR experience points from fights which forces you to arbitrarily revisit areas just to make money. 2. You can't select your targets in battle, removing what little strategy the Lunar games are known for. 3. It's a Lunar game without voice acting, beautiful songs, or anime cutscenes. 4. Losing HP as you run... I actually forgot that was a thing.
Did you just watch the intro scene for X-2 and bail out "cause jpop?" The game has a great battle system and there really isnt all that much "jpop bullshit" in it except the intro and one of the job classes.
I loved the song. When I googled it, I found out the Japanese version was done by Kumi Koda, who eventually became one of my favorite singers, just under Kikuko Inoue, who does some game voiceovers.
@@isna7120 The story is awesome! Yuna gets reunited with Tidus. The whole story revolves around her trying to find Tidus. I guess it just takes a smart analytical brain to enjoy the game.
XIII was partially linear. I'll give it that. But the character progression throughout the series is wonderful. The movement from linearity to open exploration is fitting to the way the story plays out. FXIII-2 is one of my fav rpgs of all time. The battle system can get repetitive and monotonous but most rpgs are like that, especially if you're a completionist, and where it shines are the boss battles and eventually in catching monsters in XIII-2. I own all three games, all three novels, a shirt and a plush. I'm definitely one of the people that worships it like you mention. The worst part of the series is its reliance on reading data logs to understand the lore, but i found that reading the books replaced that need. I usually agree with most of your opinions and I'll forever be a subscriber but this is one place we differ.
Actually i really enjoyed Time and Eternity a lot , I loved the anime graphics. It was pretty short and easy too, it took me barely 1 week to finish it. In my opinion people were expecting too much out of it.I'm glad that finally we re receiving translations for games like these too... the more the merrier i say. I remember the dark times of the 90s when only a few JRPG made it to our shores...sad days..trying to finish Sakura wars on my saturn using guides and losing 80% of the fun factor in the meantime..
I guess, I'm not the only one, who enjoyed TokiTowa. And, in my opinion, you are right. People expected too many things from this game. And, in the and, ignored good humor, nice graphic, good music and irony. About translation in 90-early 00... I live in Russua, so I was really glad to find even poor translation on eng... Some translation on Russian was... my eyes cried with blood.
I recently picked up Time & Eternity and haven’t played it. I’ll still accept that this is just his opinion and will let him have his opinion. I did play FF13 and X-2 and completely disagree with his views as I genuinely enjoyed them. I completed FF13 and thought it was alright. Definitely there are much worse JRPGS. Unlimited Saga and Breath of Fire: Fire Quarter were worse and weren’t on the list..there hundreds more worse RPGS.
I felt they get much better with each iteration. 13-3 had the best even only playing as one character. I've played a ton of rpgs over the years and there's really nothing else like it.
@@vivisimonvi yeah, lightning returns had a great battle system and a huge amount of customization. i actually like the entire trilogy a lot but 3 is definitely my favorite. i can understand people not really liking them, but considering them one of the top 10 worst rpgs ever made is a huge stretch.
Have you ever played Hydlyde? This is one franchise that should never have been created, culminating in Virtual Hydlyde, a shitty game getting an even shittier remake, and not only the worst JRPG ever, but one of the worst video games ever.
Well, in the case of Virtual Hydlyde, it doesn't even have Experience Points, so that's right. What is your requirements of an RPG to be an RPG, though? I, for example, don't call games like modern Castlevania entries, Dead Rising or Pandora's Tower RPGs, even though they have EXP and stats. The reason is they don't focus on the role play, while other games like Dark Souls and Horizon: Zero Dawn do. Also, I LOVE the battle system of X-2. I think it's the best in the franchise. But I can definitely see why it turns you off.
i liked them a lot, especially lightning returns. i must have beaten lightning returns 7 or 8 times since it released and just never seem to get tired of it. love how the clock and countdown works, it keeps you always thinking about how best to spend your time. and despite all the hate the time limit gets, there is more than enough time to do everything. my first playthrough i completed quite a few quests. on my 2nd and even 3rd playthroughs i stumbled into quests i haven't seen yet, which kept it interesting on repeat playthroughs.
I have mixed feelings over it. I understand why people don't like it. There is a huge shift in the battle mechanics and the begin of the game is so easy that easy that people think that the game is auto playing. The characters are also too stereotypical in the begin and you have to wait some hours to see their personality fleshing out (I actually think that there is great character development there). The plot is also mismanaged and the ending is badly constructed (you have to read several texts to understand what happened and, even then, it is kind of bad). On other hand, the graphics are pretty good. I played it last year and I think it aged very well. The battle system is not very boring in the late game, as it requires strategy and good timing. I actually enjoyed this game more than Final Fantasy X and it's boring characters and pointless, gameplay disrupting, cutscenes. Almost nobody will agree with me on this, but that's how opinions work, I guess
The funny thing about FFX-2 is that, while being very different and controversial back then, looking at what came after it (11 : MMO, 12 : Pseudo-MMO, 13: weird, 14: MMO, 15/7R: Pure action), it seems like a classic Final Fantasy in hindsight.
I happened to love the FFXIII Trilogy, it's one of my favorites of the Final Fantasy Series.(My favorite characters are Hope, Snow, Fang, and Lightning.) As for FFX-2 That was a great game! Okay the whole not skipping or missing cut scenes to get a perfect ending was Annoying (Specially that one time I missed something and had to start over, luckily I wasn't that far into it.) But I loved the dressphere Grid and the interesting characters(My Favorite is Paine), but Tidus was allowed to come back.
Agreed yes xiii had a linear story but people hate it cause of characters mainly lightning who they claim is a cloud clone...how!? Square said many times that she is not and her own person she is similar to cloud but not cloud.
me too, even if you don't like them putting them in a 10 worst rpgs ever is a huge stretch. lightning returns has one of my favorite combat systems in an rpg and i actually loved the time limit that everyone whined about.
As much as FF13 was disappointing, i can't deny that the paradigm system is honestly one of my favourite battle systems of all time. the OST was honestly also some of the best that i have ever heard.
Agreeing with everything so far... *sees Final Fantasy X-2 on the list* Gonna have to stop you there, buddy. Story is kinda bland, but the gameplay is some of the most solid in the entire series.
Man, I love how ppl shit about the paradigm battle system of FF13, which to me is one of the most innovative thing Square created after junction of FF8, though, I admit the actual implementation is poor, and the games are really mediocre in FF standard (yet I still played at least two walkthroughs for each of them, since the lack of games back to the PS3 era).
FFX2 has one of the most compelling and deep job class/combat system of all the FF'S. THERE WAS NOT ONE DAMN BAD THING ABOUT THAT COMBAT SYSTEM. Tragic actually...because that is literally the only good thing I can say about that game. I literally beat it just for how much I loved the combat and class system. By far the strongest gambler class in any FF too, seltzer needs offering and fixed dice to shine, lady luck has one of the best skill sets and auto effect sets in the entire game. Psych is broken, especially considering you can get it in the first 45 minutes of the game. Anyway, outside combat, I couldn't believe FFX2 STORYLINE WAS SO BAD......SO TRITE....SO GIRL POWER CRINGE, it actually makes FF13s plot seem okay. IT WAS THAT BAD.
@@chisaten I couldn't stand Sarah in XIII-2. My God she was so whiny and annoying. The gameplay was a lot better but the characters were eh and the story just completely different from the first one.
@@chisaten huh.. i didnt find hope anoyinng... sure he is a brat initially but... well... he kind of had a deppression state so i understand that (i mean the sequel did a little right to him). VANILLE THOUGH... THAT IS OTHER STORY
Erick Landon RPG No that was just an incomplete game. FF ATB would be taken off the app store if it was a indie developer. FF XV can be fun for some people FF ATB is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen a game company do. At least FF XV can be beaten without a mircotranactions. All the positive reviews on the app store are either a bot, a SE employee or paid. It's the worst game that SE ever made worse than Mindjack and FFXIV ver 1.0. There's no fun aspect (even Sonic 06 had fun) and no strategy if you can pay for it you may be able to win. Not even money is a guarantee because all the characters are unlocked though RNG. At least Candy Crush Saga and even Kim Kardashian Hollywood has a git gud aspect FF ATB is git rich and cross your fingers that you won't get Edward and Umaro.
Oh, I thought you were calling FFXV with different mocking names, hahaha. I seriously had no idea there is actually a game called All the Bravest. I'll Google it.
I have all three final Fantasy 13 games and you would have no argument from me on your assessment of the games. The first one was okay, the second one became frustrating at a certain point and I never bothered with the third one since you have to finish it in approximately 13 hours.
I'd like to hear a more articulate review from you on Time and Eternity. You keep saying it's bad and annoying but I wish you'd address specific things. Problem is the game looks beautiful, and I want to know precisely where it goes wrong.
Well, Time & Eternity has a few strikes against it to start with. It's a Nippon Ichi translation, and if you don't like NIS's style (which not everyone does), you're probably going to get angry at the story to begin with. It's programmed by Gust (now part of Namco-Bandai), and Gust has this thing about over-complicating their games sometimes. I didn't mind this one, but I can kind of see how people would be annoyed with it. He doesn't mention that the reason events don't change much based on which character you are; which is because you change when you level up (so you're the main princess, Toki, on odd levels and her alter-ego, Towa, on even levels), and so the game doesn't know ahead of time which princess you're going to be controlling for the events. There ARE multiple endings, and missions to do that change the direction the storyline goes. I sort of left it at the time, because I got Battle Princess of Arcadias and the first Witch & The Hundred Knight around the same time, and both were much more interesting games.
Dragoneer's Aria was actually one game that I really wanted to like. The concept was interesting and the story was just different enough to keep me playing to find out what happens next. The battle system was tolerable, but I found xp gain to be rather unfairly slow. Once you reached the point that your level was greater than the opponents, even when it was just one level greater, your xp gain dropped to 1xp, even though the fights themselves were no easier. That made any sort of grinding very labor intensive. However, that would have been tolerable if not for one big issue. The drop rate on items needed for crafting was painfully low. Even stuff that was supposed to be "common" had such a low drop rate that I was lucky to get even 1 per hour. I spent so many hours grinding, trying to get the items I needed to craft the accessories necessary to make that final boss beatable and found I was just spinning my wheels. Over 10 hours of grinding and not enough enough drops to craft a single item.
One of these days, you should make a video covering the Battle/Character Growth Systems of core-Final Fantasy games (no stupid mobile ports or spinoffs) and perhaps mention other notable J-RPGs (non-Square/Enix) that used similar things, which worked, which don't work, and why. EDIT: When I say character growth, I mean mechanics/statwise, not story-wise.
I havent paid attention, but does erick normally use bgm from the games currently on display behind him? Also hes back in mexico, bring back flame nymph!
i've played lunar dragon song. my aunt had it lol. i never even noticed you lost hp while running but what annoyed me about it was that everytime i got a new character i'd be like level 10 or something and here they are at 1....every....single....time. at least i think it was this one. it's also the only lunar game i've played.
How the hell did Time & Eternity come out on PS3? Those sort of graphics in the battle system is something you'd expect on PS2 or a mobile app platform!
FF XIII and XIII-2 are two of my favorite FF titles ever! The third one is a different story - I hated it not because it's a bad game per se, but because it made me feel depressed from the start to the crappy ending...
It all depends on what kind of equipment you use for recording gameplay, what kind of editing program you use, what kind of whatever. Believe it or not, you're the first person ever to complain about it and I know it's unpleasant to watch something of low quality, but there are a lot of people out there, like me, who sometimes can't get a higher quality of certain videogames due to a lot of reasons. I hope you understand.
what kind of equipment are you using, then? because making FF13 look this bad must take some serious work. not even my old DVD recorder looked like this.
Drakken was never a point and click game. The SNES version is a fairly faithful remake actually. Its an awful game on every system. but it is not a JRPG. its a French RPG. Replace it with the entire catalog of Idea Factory/Compile heart.
I can understand the reason why you said both FFXIII and FFX-2 are terrible and you hated them, but I still can't see them as "bad" games at all. I've played X-2 but have only watched a full playthrough of XIII, still I didn't really like it....but it didn't feel as bad as people make it out to be. Still I never understand why this especific title got a trillogy rather than the other games in the series~ As for X-2, it felt weird, I liked the first one a lot more, but I had fun playing this one too....tho it was weird, a lot weird. The battle system was quite addicting for me tbh. P.S: I can 1000% agree with Dragoneer's Aria though, maaaaaaaaaaaaaan that game sucked so hard to play~
I think they're horrible because of so many reasons, one of them being the fact that they weren't made by Hironobu. Honestly, the series should have changed the name when he left. Imagine if the Lord of the Rings had a new trilogy, written by somebody else and made only to please certain types of fans. Well, wouldn't that be atrociously unfair? It's only my opinion, but I really believe these games are NOT Final Fantasy games, whether people like them or not is beyond the point. And this is only one reason why I hate them, haha.
Couldn't have said it better. Final Fantasy died when Sakaguchi left, he should have kept the rights on the name and continued making them on his own. Lost Odyssey could have been the perfect FFXII or FFXIII. The Last Story was also a good candidate imho.
Hmm I see, weeeell you've convinced me, really. As a guy that really appreciates when a series stay true to it's core through time, it seems unfair indeed.
Dudu carbalo FF13 and 10-2 aren't bad games on their own (I'm saying this even though I HATE 10-2 lol) but people only think they're bad because of the Final Fantasy attached to their names.
You're right about Lunar Dragon Song. I could have used that video game to vacuum my carpets because it really sucked. I traded it in at a used video game store 3 days after buying it. I believe that game killed any hope of keeping the Lunar series alive.
One day I will have money enough to purchase a time machine, I will travel in time and bring the person who invented quick time events as a child to the present and then I will abandon him in Tepito.
Bit suprised Lord of the Rings for SNES aint listed here. Despite the fact the game was released years before the first movie trilogy, it's one of the worst games I've ever played.
@@Woodzta i just hated the limited save mechanic on top of other things. I know theres loop holes but still.. Capcom had to change some things from previous titles that didnt need to bd changed. Also Capcom really reminded me of OG Resident Evil with limited saves (kinda how saves were limited with acquiring ink ribbons)
FF X-2 is one of my favorite games. FF XIII shows why the trope that there is always time for sidequests exists; this didn't have it and suffered for it. (I thought XIII-2 was good, but never got interested into going for Lightning Returns.)
Oh boy, i played every single one of these games. Blade dancer was even my first psp game, bought it because the protagonist looked like Gaara with blue hair.
Kingdom Hearts 3. Listen I'm a Kingdom Hearts fan and 2 might be one of the greatest RPGs of all time but wow KH3 was a let down. 3 hours of just hitting the triangle over and over again while you wait out needlessly long and unavoidable summon sequences. Plus there was so many games released between 2 and 3 that you spend that you feel like you're catching the last 15 minutes of a movie.
the data battles completely change everything in KH3 where things get more complex and tight-knit skill-based. You can change cut scene battle animations to off in KH3 in the options menu. this seems more like" A you problem" when the game gives you the options to turn those off.
I do think that the Final Fantasy games are better suited in a list with dissapointing games more than anything, if the FF13 triology would have been realesed with another name and not apart of a beloved series I think the welcome would have been way better same goes with FFX-2. I for one acutally think the Battle System of thirteen is quite intresting especielly when you do it manually and dont rely on the more or less automode that leaves you in charge of paradigms. In my opinion at least even if 10-2 and 13 triology are abit dissapointing there are tons of JRPG out there that is way worse than those titles.
I agree with FF 13 and lunar dragon song,those were 2 big dissapointments.Some others -Astonishia story: I've spoken my mind about this game already,it's a piece of crap -Pier solar:High encounter rate and slow battles combined with labyrinthine dungeons is a recipe for failure.30 draining encounters later you find a herb,that's your reward.But wait!Now u have to exit the lengthy dungeon as well and there's no fast exit! Enjoy 40 more random encounters!!Losing your way in this game was hell -Agarest generations of war: Completely braindead game,i put the battles on auto pilot and hoped it would get better on the next generations .NOPE! -Unlimited saga: The negatives FAR outweigh the positives,game is totally imbalanced and as a plus it killed the saGa series in the west. -Sword of vermillion:Really boring
Astonishia Story got in number 11 for this list, hahahahahaha. I'm serious, it's bad but I didn't think it was THAT bad. Probably worse than FFX13, I'll admit, but I couldn't control my hatred for that game. It changed Final Fantasy for the worst. Pier Solar, I haven't played it but I'm pretty sure it's not Japanese? Agarest, I love it but it's just too damn hard. I don't consider it bad at all, though. Unlimited, I know everybody keeps saying it's awful but I haven't played it! Sword of Vermillion, yeah, very boring, but wasn't it fan-translated? I don't think it was released outside Japan.
God damn it,astonishia story lost the spot in the shit list! I understand you,i'm also one of the people who believe final fantasy died/radically changed after 10. FF 12 wasn't bad,but i personally dislike it. Pier solar is a jrpg created by a small company in 2010 that wanted to recapture the magic of SNES-era rpgs,they even released a sega genesis cartidge(talk about devotion). It was a worthy attempt but unfortunately disappointing,for the reasons i mentioned. No,Sword of vermillion was originally released both in US and EU. Maybe the stores refused to sell it because it was so shitty. I had played it on sega genesis collection for PSP Unlimited saga,i've explained about it on another video of yours(controversial rpgs i think). I believe u shouldn't play it,it will just leave you frustrated and confused,it's not worth it.
I did consider Saga Frontier because I really hate that game, but I have to admit that if you play it with a walkthrough all the time, you'll be "fine." It's honestly not that bad, but I really did think about including it.
Yeah I never played it with a guide but even then it was one of those one with massive difficulty spikes. The combat system was almost random as to how powerful you would get. The story was awful for most characters other than Red the super hero guy, I think that was his name. I never played the second one since I hated the first but your one video made me want to give it a try so its in my back log now haha.
There’s much worse JRPGs than Final Fantasy XIII - I think you’re just drawing comparison to previous releases from Square. Sure it’s vastly different than its predecessors but there are far more worse JRPGs - trust me. I think it’s a stretch to include the FF13 titles as apart of the worst JRPGs ever.
10) To be fair, the FF13 trilogy also became victim of Square-Enix or rather modern Square-Enix can't seem to figure out what to do. There was a lack of a unified vision which in turn kind of soured the trilogy. 9) Arcana. Never played it so I got nothing on it. 8) Dragoneer's Aria. Jeezus. No wonder it sucked. 7) I call that a major bait and switch. 6) I never played Dragon Quest Swords and I rather not want to. 5) Lunar Dragon Song... wow. You weren't kidding that it killed the Lunar series. Jeezus. 4) Medabots deserve better honestly. It's still popular in Japan but here, not as much. 3) Drakkhen... oh jeez. What the hell. 2) FFX-2. I think this would be the game that would slowly cause the FF franchise to go downhill. 1) I never played this game but I've seen people play it. Jeezus.
well you forget about one game FINAL FANTASY 15!!! or if you wante the second name of it (devil may cry 15 hhhh) i dont igree on final fantasy 13...the ff 15 should be in the list
FF13 is not a great FF and failed expectations, but labelling it as one of the ten worst JRPGs is just utter nonsense. Edit: why do I disagree: production is actually great and if we‘re talking about character clichés then... man, we have to question the majority of JRPGs.
What I couldn't stand more than anything in Lunar Dragon Song was how your equipment could break in battle randomly and become useless. It's already annoying enough that you can't just get money from killing monsters and have to do all these stupid and time consuming "jobs" instead, especially when equipment is a heckuva expensive. But they have to add that in as a big middle finger on top of the money issue. I'd be constantly saving my game after every frickin battle.
So my gripe is with final fantasy X-2 being on this list. If you don't like idols don't like idols but don't say this game constantly pushes idols in your face. Th story was a great continuation of ffx. The dresspheres were an excellent update for a classic job system. The battle system was similar to grandia and other real time turn based rpgs. your whole reasoning for disliking this game is the reason why you like so many others wtf? You are entitled to your opinion Mr. Landon but I thoroughly disagree with this one which is a first since I have been watching your channel.
It is pointless to argue about this topic with you or anybody else and I'm really tired of explaining myself to someone who's just not going to listen. You have your reasons for loving the game and I have mine for hating it. Let's just leave it at that and respect each other's opinions, shall we?
Erick Landon RPG no one's arguing. I just stated my opinion. I don't like that your argument for why this is a bad game is so weak, but I respect your right to your opinion.
Personally, I did enjoy Final Fantasy XIII, but didn't play it through to the end. Mainly because I didn't have enough time, and there were better games to play, but that didn't make it a bad game by my standards. I few of the others looked okay as well, although I haven't played them yet - namely Arcana, Blade Dancer, Medabots Infinity, FFX-2, and Time and Eternity. The games aren't exactly things I'd go and buy, but if I had the money and the time I'd give them a try. From my view, at least, you can still have fun with most games, even if they are a terrible game. ...Using health to run though?
Dragoneers Aria is boring, true. But i beat it when still highschool in class. The final boss fight was so fun. Even my friend can kill it without knowing the game at all.
Yeah, it had annoying, sugary aspects to it, but it was basically a good game. I especially thought the Garment Grid system was a clever way of getting all those classes into only three characters.
Okay first minute and you already put FF 13, my absolute favorite games. FF XIII is absolutely the best JRPG I've played, and that is saying a lot seeing how I have probably surpassed the 10k hours needed to master a thing as people say, playing JRPGS. Say what you want, but it's way better than any other Final Fantasy. XV is hot garbage. And the linearity people criticize so much is always present on every other Final Fantasy game, including the all so might FF 7, that I played a lot, but it's not that good, yes I said it, what everybody secretly knows but nostalgia don't let them admit, FF 7 aged like milk, and the Remaster/Remake looks like it will go on all the wrong direction.
Erick Landon RPG. I hear that Eric Landon RPG is pretty awful. Terrible graphics, awful music, the battle system is broken, inconsistent pacing when walking around the map and running into confrontations, and the storyline is laughable.😄.
personally I hated FF2 infinitely more....but that's me ( and btw, it's entirely for 2 reasons: 1, you can't save in most dungeons if any at all, and 2, the character progression system was obnoxious and stupid IMO....why they replaced EXP and Levels with "take a fuckton of damage and hope to hell your max HP goes up by a few points is beyond me... )
I wonder if any of your opinions have changed in the years since this video. For my part I haven't played most of these. The first FFXIII was a bad FF true, but I'm not sure it was bad enough rated against the worst JRPGs of all time. I think same is likely to be true of the sequels as well as X-2, but I have not played those. Arcana and Drakken I 100% agree on. These were two of the worst games on the platform. Especially Drakken. I completely forgot Time and Eternity existed. I remember some of the promotion prior to release and thinking it looked pretty. I couldn't tell you why I didn't buy it at the time, but looking at the clips here I think I dodged a bullet there.
Drakkhen on SNES isn’t a remake. It’s a port of the Amiga version. Yes, a PORT. Not a remake. The game is basically the SAME on Amiga, Atari ST and MS DOS. Fun Fact : it’s one of the first SNES game.
ff x2 is kinda good, i remember it being my first ff for ps2 since my mom couldn´t find X and misunderstood XII lol, at first i kinda didn´t wanted to play it, but in the end it won me, and I hate jpop
Haha, great list. And it took a lot of courage to speak plainly about some of these titles. I love JPOP idols but still hate FFX-2. It just didn't fit the characters at all (Yuna especially).
ffx WAS AMAZING you are thinking of FFX-2 when they gave Yuna the polar oposite personality. we grew and had wasted tons of character development for her only for it to not matter in the second game. The entire game of FF10-2 SPITS in the face of the first game.
I dont like J-pop and Idols theme ever, but as for me, FF X-2 is OK game. Its almost-free roaming grindfest JRPG, and its pretty good for me. I dont care about "oh, its have FINAL FANTASY in its title" thing.
You don't like x-2's combat? I thought it was great. It's ATB but cranked up to 11. Really rewards timing your attack as well for chaining bonus. It's got job systems that you can freely switch in battles, tons of customizable options. International version has shit ton of content too, you can build your party in every imaginable way, game has good challenge unlike most FF's, and the game really embraces non-linear exploration with focuses on side stories. I think it doesn't deserve so much hate, even if the story and writing wasn't good. I used to hate it when I was young as I expecting a more traditional , serious sequel to FFX if there's to be one, but replaying the game again, I think it's a lot of dumb, lighthearted fun, and there's nothing wrong with that.
I still liked the final-fantasy games ... they could bring out any type of shit game aslong as it's named final fantasy i would play it -_- fck square enix they know they can release whatever they want and still make money out of it bcuz of fans of the series lol
So, about Arcana... I can understand why some people might not like the whole first person dungeon thing, and the first dungeon IS a bit blah on the eyes (later dungeons are better), the Menus aren't That bad, they're pretty much standard fare for the time period. The story is "eh", it's nothing special, again, but yet it isn't absolutely terrible either. I think the main draw behind Arcana, is its unique (for the time) Element system where different enemies have different elements and you need to match your attacks. This game came out during a time when JRPGs were very... light on strategy and more "spam the Fight Command until everything dies". At least they tried to do something different than RPGMaker #38238129 thing (if RPGMaker had existed back then).
Fair enough, I mean, there's plenty about the game that's going to be Make-or-Break, Eye of the Beholder fans might love the first person dungeons, but yet top-down RPG players might hate it because it just feels too alien or weird. They took a giant risk with this, and I'm glad they did because we see what happens when developers are too scared to take risks, everything is generic and blah nowadays from the mainstream Triple-A market.
FFX-2 is a spit in the face of the first game that was so amazing that it changed my life as a child who grew up without a father and had to come to terms later in my life (exactly like Tidus does). Tidus is just one of many masterfully done stories told by every character and the general story told in FF10. I am so upset at 10-2 for how out of its way it goes to betray the first game. BTW 13 trilogy was made by the guy who did 10-2
FFX-2 worst ff? No worst FF in the main line series is FF2 nes version. But probably worst jrpg I played is Agarest: generations of war. Generic story and characters, the srpg combat is really boring and its insanely grindy especially if you go for true end, witch is really stingy what route you take on the map. It lets you put stats in what you want but the only viable stat to focus on is stamina because otherwise you will get murdered by everything.
I laughed so hard at the game where your HP goes down as you run. If I couldn't figure out where to go, and I lost health for looking around, I would totally RAGE QUIT!!!
I only played FF 13 out of the trilogy...I actually enjoyed it.
La historia del 13 es buena. Lo malo es que las pantallas son muy angostas y hay poca exploracion
Well aren't you just a contrarion rebel 😏
@@ronniejoly1743 he can enjoy something if he wants to
@@silenvis6310 don't go playing in traffic 😂
@@ronniejoly1743 I would say something but never mind I’m not in the mood good day sir.
"What the ASS was going on in their heads?"
Hands down, my favorite quote of the video!!! Excellent, my friend!
Lol, thanks.
Technically, FF's reputation wasn't really that low when FFX-2 came out. Spirits Within was the big first sour taste, but even that was an honest failure on Sakaguchi's part than a hollow, soulless cash-grab. FFX-2 feels more like the earliest sign of the mismanagement to come after Wada took over.
However, The Spirits Within was a movie as opposed to a video game, but it was not really that great as it was.
Around the 14:06 mark I had to pause the video and just rant to myself about the graphics. This is abysmal. You can't have it both ways. You can't have an anime girl in a 3D world. Either go full blown visual novel, or cough up the money for a 3D model. You can't have your anime fan service if you aren't willing to draw the backgrounds. And you can't have 3D anime fan service if you aren't willing to cough up the money for decent 3D models. I don't care if this game has the best gameplay mechanics of the decade. No gameplay can excuse those graphics, holy shit.
Lunar Dragon Song is so sad, because there's no reason it had to be a bad game at all. 4 main issues: 1. You have to choose whether to get item drops OR experience points from fights which forces you to arbitrarily revisit areas just to make money. 2. You can't select your targets in battle, removing what little strategy the Lunar games are known for. 3. It's a Lunar game without voice acting, beautiful songs, or anime cutscenes. 4. Losing HP as you run... I actually forgot that was a thing.
Did you just watch the intro scene for X-2 and bail out "cause jpop?" The game has a great battle system and there really isnt all that much "jpop bullshit" in it except the intro and one of the job classes.
This. I like watching this guy’s videos but I was confused at that. It’s not even a bad game.
I loved the song. When I googled it, I found out the Japanese version was done by Kumi Koda, who eventually became one of my favorite singers, just under Kikuko Inoue, who does some game voiceovers.
Story bad,not the battle
Well,i don't like X-2 but I watched my brother play it. I think the battle system is 👍🏻 👍🏻 👍🏻
@@isna7120 The story is awesome! Yuna gets reunited with Tidus. The whole story revolves around her trying to find Tidus. I guess it just takes a smart analytical brain to enjoy the game.
"It's just grey bricks everywhere you go."
Oh boy, you would love Wizardry VI.
Well, I sure didn't love the first Phantasy Star either, hahaha.
Erick Landon RPG Myau disapproves of this. :(
(Should play the PS2 remakes of 1 and 2. Amazing as hell.)
Grey bricks everywhere. That describes pretty much any dungeon crawler. You would really like Sword of Vermilion. Snark. Snark.
@@ErickLandonRPG the other 3 Phantasy Star games are better, even the weirdo one Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom.
XIII was partially linear. I'll give it that. But the character progression throughout the series is wonderful. The movement from linearity to open exploration is fitting to the way the story plays out. FXIII-2 is one of my fav rpgs of all time. The battle system can get repetitive and monotonous but most rpgs are like that, especially if you're a completionist, and where it shines are the boss battles and eventually in catching monsters in XIII-2. I own all three games, all three novels, a shirt and a plush. I'm definitely one of the people that worships it like you mention. The worst part of the series is its reliance on reading data logs to understand the lore, but i found that reading the books replaced that need. I usually agree with most of your opinions and I'll forever
be a subscriber but this is one place we differ.
Every Nintendo game where they forced motion controls on you are terrible, JRPG or not.
Actually i really enjoyed Time and Eternity a lot , I loved the anime graphics. It was pretty short and easy too, it took me barely 1 week to finish it. In my opinion people were expecting too much out of it.I'm glad that finally we re receiving translations for games like these too... the more the merrier i say. I remember the dark times of the 90s when only a few JRPG made it to our shores...sad days..trying to finish Sakura wars on my saturn using guides and losing 80% of the fun factor in the meantime..
I guess, I'm not the only one, who enjoyed TokiTowa. And, in my opinion, you are right. People expected too many things from this game. And, in the and, ignored good humor, nice graphic, good music and irony.
About translation in 90-early 00... I live in Russua, so I was really glad to find even poor translation on eng... Some translation on Russian was... my eyes cried with blood.
I recently picked up Time & Eternity and haven’t played it. I’ll still accept that this is just his opinion and will let him have his opinion. I did play FF13 and X-2 and completely disagree with his views as I genuinely enjoyed them. I completed FF13 and thought it was alright. Definitely there are much worse JRPGS. Unlimited Saga and Breath of Fire: Fire Quarter were worse and weren’t on the list..there hundreds more worse RPGS.
I really like TokiTowa.
I save 13 - 2 and story of 13 - 1 but 13 - 1 and 13 - 3 not too mutch
13-3 has huge problems
I actually liked X-2. The story/characters were horrid but I really enjoyed the gameplay
I think yuna and rikku were cool put paine felt awkwardly thrown in
Yeah, there was no rhyme or reason why Paine was there, and the story never explains it.
ngl, I really enjoyed 13-2, it had a fun battle system
I felt they get much better with each iteration. 13-3 had the best even only playing as one character. I've played a ton of rpgs over the years and there's really nothing else like it.
@@vivisimonvi yeah, lightning returns had a great battle system and a huge amount of customization. i actually like the entire trilogy a lot but 3 is definitely my favorite. i can understand people not really liking them, but considering them one of the top 10 worst rpgs ever made is a huge stretch.
13-2 is my fave!!
😂
This is why wrpgs excel. NO FUCKING GRINDING. Only tactics and strategy.
Have you ever played Hydlyde? This is one franchise that should never have been created, culminating in Virtual Hydlyde, a shitty game getting an even shittier remake, and not only the worst JRPG ever, but one of the worst video games ever.
I know that game is extremely horrible...but I just don't consider it an RPG.
Well, in the case of Virtual Hydlyde, it doesn't even have Experience Points, so that's right.
What is your requirements of an RPG to be an RPG, though? I, for example, don't call games like modern Castlevania entries, Dead Rising or Pandora's Tower RPGs, even though they have EXP and stats. The reason is they don't focus on the role play, while other games like Dark Souls and Horizon: Zero Dawn do.
Also, I LOVE the battle system of X-2. I think it's the best in the franchise. But I can definitely see why it turns you off.
What do I consider an RPG to be an RPG? I'm planning a video about it.
Am i the only one that actually liked 13?
Nope, I bought it day one before all the hate was out there and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Though I totally get why people weren’t into it.
i liked them a lot, especially lightning returns. i must have beaten lightning returns 7 or 8 times since it released and just never seem to get tired of it. love how the clock and countdown works, it keeps you always thinking about how best to spend your time. and despite all the hate the time limit gets, there is more than enough time to do everything. my first playthrough i completed quite a few quests. on my 2nd and even 3rd playthroughs i stumbled into quests i haven't seen yet, which kept it interesting on repeat playthroughs.
I have mixed feelings over it.
I understand why people don't like it. There is a huge shift in the battle mechanics and the begin of the game is so easy that easy that people think that the game is auto playing. The characters are also too stereotypical in the begin and you have to wait some hours to see their personality fleshing out (I actually think that there is great character development there). The plot is also mismanaged and the ending is badly constructed (you have to read several texts to understand what happened and, even then, it is kind of bad).
On other hand, the graphics are pretty good. I played it last year and I think it aged very well. The battle system is not very boring in the late game, as it requires strategy and good timing.
I actually enjoyed this game more than Final Fantasy X and it's boring characters and pointless, gameplay disrupting, cutscenes. Almost nobody will agree with me on this, but that's how opinions work, I guess
I don't hate it. I actually like XIII, but I don't love it.
Yeah u are that game is garbage
The funny thing about FFX-2 is that, while being very different and controversial back then, looking at what came after it (11 : MMO, 12 : Pseudo-MMO, 13: weird, 14: MMO, 15/7R: Pure action), it seems like a classic Final Fantasy in hindsight.
"You will probably enjoy its astonishing mediocrity" HAHAHAHA
Thanks now I'm going to go play maximum Carnage
Lol, enjoy it!
I happened to love the FFXIII Trilogy, it's one of my favorites of the Final Fantasy Series.(My favorite characters are Hope, Snow, Fang, and Lightning.) As for FFX-2 That was a great game! Okay the whole not skipping or missing cut scenes to get a perfect ending was Annoying (Specially that one time I missed something and had to start over, luckily I wasn't that far into it.) But I loved the dressphere Grid and the interesting characters(My Favorite is Paine), but Tidus was allowed to come back.
Agreed yes xiii had a linear story but people hate it cause of characters mainly lightning who they claim is a cloud clone...how!? Square said many times that she is not and her own person she is similar to cloud but not cloud.
I actually LOVE FF XIII Trilogy ! Maybe it's not for everyone
Me too
me too, even if you don't like them putting them in a 10 worst rpgs ever is a huge stretch. lightning returns has one of my favorite combat systems in an rpg and i actually loved the time limit that everyone whined about.
Same here love this game
No
As much as FF13 was disappointing, i can't deny that the paradigm system
is honestly one of my favourite battle systems of all time.
the OST was honestly also some of the best that i have ever heard.
As just 13 it's ok. but as a trilogy it's trash.
Favourite?
Press X to win is the battle system?
@@lolita001 lol tbh arent they all 'press x to win' for the first 10 hours
@@wowwar2 No, definitelly not. Stop playing only mainstream games and you will see.
@@m4rcin847 lol sure, which ones tho? I already played FFT
I LOVE the FF 13 Trilogy and I'm not sorry for that ;D
Agreeing with everything so far...
*sees Final Fantasy X-2 on the list*
Gonna have to stop you there, buddy. Story is kinda bland, but the gameplay is some of the most solid in the entire series.
Herabec that was the first game on the list, what else were you agreeing on prior?
@@solstice003 Final Fantasy 13 trilogy was the first game on the list.
@@Syenthros whoops I misread x2 as xiii2
Man, I love how ppl shit about the paradigm battle system of FF13, which to me is one of the most innovative thing Square created after junction of FF8, though, I admit the actual implementation is poor, and the games are really mediocre in FF standard (yet I still played at least two walkthroughs for each of them, since the lack of games back to the PS3 era).
I like FFX-2 as a parody , but i HATE it so much as a sequel
FFX2 has one of the most compelling and deep job class/combat system of all the FF'S. THERE WAS NOT ONE DAMN BAD THING ABOUT THAT COMBAT SYSTEM.
Tragic actually...because that is literally the only good thing I can say about that game. I literally beat it just for how much I loved the combat and class system. By far the strongest gambler class in any FF too, seltzer needs offering and fixed dice to shine, lady luck has one of the best skill sets and auto effect sets in the entire game. Psych is broken, especially considering you can get it in the first 45 minutes of the game.
Anyway, outside combat, I couldn't believe FFX2 STORYLINE WAS SO BAD......SO TRITE....SO GIRL POWER CRINGE, it actually makes FF13s plot seem okay. IT WAS THAT BAD.
I get that FFXIII isn't really good, but it's definitely not one of the TOP 10 worst jrpgs EVER!
And he bothered the character stereotype and cliche.. That jrpg means mate!
Yes it is.
Arcana eh? It's actually one of those classics I like so much, I have to replay it every couple of years.
I love Arcana...
Final Fantasy XIII 2 is actually pretty good. it is what FF XIII should have been
True. XIII-2 was actually pretty enjoyable. After XIII fiasco I had no hopes for the sequel but Im glad I was wrong
I preferred the gameplay of XIII-2, but felt more connected to the story of the original (even with how annoying Hope is!)
@@chisaten I couldn't stand Sarah in XIII-2. My God she was so whiny and annoying. The gameplay was a lot better but the characters were eh and the story just completely different from the first one.
I'm glad FFXIII wasn't that. Otherwise there would be nothing in the trilogy I enjoy.
@@chisaten huh.. i didnt find hope anoyinng... sure he is a brat initially but... well... he kind of had a deppression state so i understand that (i mean the sequel did a little right to him). VANILLE THOUGH... THAT IS OTHER STORY
X-2 was horrible! On replaying the 13 trilogy it actually grew on me but it still has a good deal of issues. 15 was also really bad.
Final Fantasy X-2 the worst FF? So you clearly haven't played Final Fantasy All the Bravest aka Final Fantasy Gimme your money.
You mean FF15?
Erick Landon RPG No that was just an incomplete game. FF ATB would be taken off the app store if it was a indie developer. FF XV can be fun for some people FF ATB is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen a game company do. At least FF XV can be beaten without a mircotranactions. All the positive reviews on the app store are either a bot, a SE employee or paid. It's the worst game that SE ever made worse than Mindjack and FFXIV ver 1.0. There's no fun aspect (even Sonic 06 had fun) and no strategy if you can pay for it you may be able to win. Not even money is a guarantee because all the characters are unlocked though RNG. At least Candy Crush Saga and even Kim Kardashian Hollywood has a git gud aspect FF ATB is git rich and cross your fingers that you won't get Edward and Umaro.
Oh, I thought you were calling FFXV with different mocking names, hahaha. I seriously had no idea there is actually a game called All the Bravest. I'll Google it.
ffviii is worse than ffx-2
Paul Jones Hey everyone has a different opinion on what is the worst FF to me besides All the Bravest the worst is VI. * Equips flame shield *
I have all three final Fantasy 13 games and you would have no argument from me on your assessment of the games. The first one was okay, the second one became frustrating at a certain point and I never bothered with the third one since you have to finish it in approximately 13 hours.
I'd like to hear a more articulate review from you on Time and Eternity. You keep saying it's bad and annoying but I wish you'd address specific things. Problem is the game looks beautiful, and I want to know precisely where it goes wrong.
Well, Time & Eternity has a few strikes against it to start with. It's a Nippon Ichi translation, and if you don't like NIS's style (which not everyone does), you're probably going to get angry at the story to begin with. It's programmed by Gust (now part of Namco-Bandai), and Gust has this thing about over-complicating their games sometimes. I didn't mind this one, but I can kind of see how people would be annoyed with it. He doesn't mention that the reason events don't change much based on which character you are; which is because you change when you level up (so you're the main princess, Toki, on odd levels and her alter-ego, Towa, on even levels), and so the game doesn't know ahead of time which princess you're going to be controlling for the events. There ARE multiple endings, and missions to do that change the direction the storyline goes. I sort of left it at the time, because I got Battle Princess of Arcadias and the first Witch & The Hundred Knight around the same time, and both were much more interesting games.
Dragoneer's Aria was actually one game that I really wanted to like. The concept was interesting and the story was just different enough to keep me playing to find out what happens next.
The battle system was tolerable, but I found xp gain to be rather unfairly slow. Once you reached the point that your level was greater than the opponents, even when it was just one level greater, your xp gain dropped to 1xp, even though the fights themselves were no easier. That made any sort of grinding very labor intensive.
However, that would have been tolerable if not for one big issue. The drop rate on items needed for crafting was painfully low. Even stuff that was supposed to be "common" had such a low drop rate that I was lucky to get even 1 per hour. I spent so many hours grinding, trying to get the items I needed to craft the accessories necessary to make that final boss beatable and found I was just spinning my wheels. Over 10 hours of grinding and not enough enough drops to craft a single item.
FFX13 and FFX-2 were quite good in my opinion for their own reasons.I enjoyed both of them.
Gross
Lol I liked how you expressed your anger and frustration on these games ... only ones I dont agree on is the final fantasies
13 is trash though 😂
@@allxfox5626 No it isn’t. Your opinion however? That’s what’s trash.
@@paularbelaez4742 I just don’t get why people hate FFXIII
@@lucassworldofletsplays9270 I think XIII is fine but I can see why someone wouldn’t like it
One of these days, you should make a video covering the Battle/Character Growth Systems of core-Final Fantasy games (no stupid mobile ports or spinoffs) and perhaps mention other notable J-RPGs (non-Square/Enix) that used similar things, which worked, which don't work, and why. EDIT: When I say character growth, I mean mechanics/statwise, not story-wise.
That'd be a good idea. I'll think about it.
I have a question on Lunar: Dragon Song. Do you recover health by standing still? It can balance the health you lose by running.
From what I remember, no, you don't (but I might be wrong). I think you go to fountains or inns in towns to recover health.
FF 13-2 is one of the best games of the series and has the best villain ever. Fight me.
I agree, Caius is awesome!
your angry face is funny. ;)
I havent paid attention, but does erick normally use bgm from the games currently on display behind him?
Also hes back in mexico, bring back flame nymph!
1:24 wish i picked Nier instead... I was about to 😅 didnt do because "graphics looked better"
i've played lunar dragon song. my aunt had it lol. i never even noticed you lost hp while running but what annoyed me about it was that everytime i got a new character i'd be like level 10 or something and here they are at 1....every....single....time. at least i think it was this one. it's also the only lunar game i've played.
How the hell did Time & Eternity come out on PS3? Those sort of graphics in the battle system is something you'd expect on PS2 or a mobile app platform!
then I quess you really hate ps4 games which look like low budget ps2 games.
FF XIII and XIII-2 are two of my favorite FF titles ever! The third one is a different story - I hated it not because it's a bad game per se, but because it made me feel depressed from the start to the crappy ending...
I really liked FFX13. Even though I played it after completed FF1-10 and 12.
I like your stuff, but where does one even get gameplay with a picture quality this low nowadays?
It all depends on what kind of equipment you use for recording gameplay, what kind of editing program you use, what kind of whatever. Believe it or not, you're the first person ever to complain about it and I know it's unpleasant to watch something of low quality, but there are a lot of people out there, like me, who sometimes can't get a higher quality of certain videogames due to a lot of reasons. I hope you understand.
what kind of equipment are you using, then? because making FF13 look this bad must take some serious work. not even my old DVD recorder looked like this.
Drakken was never a point and click game. The SNES version is a fairly faithful remake actually. Its an awful game on every system. but it is not a JRPG. its a French RPG. Replace it with the entire catalog of Idea Factory/Compile heart.
I can understand the reason why you said both FFXIII and FFX-2 are terrible and you hated them, but I still can't see them as "bad" games at all. I've played X-2 but have only watched a full playthrough of XIII, still I didn't really like it....but it didn't feel as bad as people make it out to be. Still I never understand why this especific title got a trillogy rather than the other games in the series~
As for X-2, it felt weird, I liked the first one a lot more, but I had fun playing this one too....tho it was weird, a lot weird. The battle system was quite addicting for me tbh.
P.S: I can 1000% agree with Dragoneer's Aria though, maaaaaaaaaaaaaan that game sucked so hard to play~
I think they're horrible because of so many reasons, one of them being the fact that they weren't made by Hironobu. Honestly, the series should have changed the name when he left. Imagine if the Lord of the Rings had a new trilogy, written by somebody else and made only to please certain types of fans. Well, wouldn't that be atrociously unfair? It's only my opinion, but I really believe these games are NOT Final Fantasy games, whether people like them or not is beyond the point. And this is only one reason why I hate them, haha.
Couldn't have said it better. Final Fantasy died when Sakaguchi left, he should have kept the rights on the name and continued making them on his own. Lost Odyssey could have been the perfect FFXII or FFXIII. The Last Story was also a good candidate imho.
Hmm I see, weeeell you've convinced me, really. As a guy that really appreciates when a series stay true to it's core through time, it seems unfair indeed.
Dudu carbalo FF13 and 10-2 aren't bad games on their own (I'm saying this even though I HATE 10-2 lol) but people only think they're bad because of the Final Fantasy attached to their names.
@@ErickLandonRPG I mean you like a lot of garbo jrpgs but ok.
You're right about Lunar Dragon Song. I could have used that video game to vacuum my carpets because it really sucked. I traded it in at a used video game store 3 days after buying it. I believe that game killed any hope of keeping the Lunar series alive.
One day I will have money enough to purchase a time machine, I will travel in time and bring the person who invented quick time events as a child to the present and then I will abandon him in Tepito.
13:27 Paine: Fabulous.
Bit suprised Lord of the Rings for SNES aint listed here. Despite the fact the game was released years before the first movie trilogy, it's one of the worst games I've ever played.
Honestly I loved final fantasy 13-2
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter was ASS
i liked it, but that was the only breath of fire game i've played so it being different didn't bother me the way it did many fans of the series.
I liked Dragon Quarter. It was definitely different, and difficult, but I was spurred on to beat it without using the restart mechanic.
@@Woodzta i just hated the limited save mechanic on top of other things. I know theres loop holes but still.. Capcom had to change some things from previous titles that didnt need to bd changed. Also Capcom really reminded me of OG Resident Evil with limited saves (kinda how saves were limited with acquiring ink ribbons)
FF X-2 is one of my favorite games. FF XIII shows why the trope that there is always time for sidequests exists; this didn't have it and suffered for it. (I thought XIII-2 was good, but never got interested into going for Lightning Returns.)
Oh boy, i played every single one of these games. Blade dancer was even my first psp game, bought it because the protagonist looked like Gaara with blue hair.
Kingdom Hearts 3. Listen I'm a Kingdom Hearts fan and 2 might be one of the greatest RPGs of all time but wow KH3 was a let down. 3 hours of just hitting the triangle over and over again while you wait out needlessly long and unavoidable summon sequences. Plus there was so many games released between 2 and 3 that you spend that you feel like you're catching the last 15 minutes of a movie.
the data battles completely change everything in KH3 where things get more complex and tight-knit skill-based. You can change cut scene battle animations to off in KH3 in the options menu. this seems more like" A you problem" when the game gives you the options to turn those off.
I liked X-2. Fun battles and class system. I liked being able to customize my team and change on the fly.
I do think that the Final Fantasy games are better suited in a list with dissapointing games more than anything, if the FF13 triology would have been realesed with another name and not apart of a beloved series I think the welcome would have been way better same goes with FFX-2. I for one acutally think the Battle System of thirteen is quite intresting especielly when you do it manually and dont rely on the more or less automode that leaves you in charge of paradigms.
In my opinion at least even if 10-2 and 13 triology are abit dissapointing there are tons of JRPG out there that is way worse than those titles.
I agree with FF 13 and lunar dragon song,those were 2 big dissapointments.Some others
-Astonishia story: I've spoken my mind about this game already,it's a piece of crap
-Pier solar:High encounter rate and slow battles combined with labyrinthine dungeons is a recipe for failure.30 draining encounters later you find a herb,that's your reward.But wait!Now u have to exit the lengthy dungeon as well and there's no fast exit! Enjoy 40 more random encounters!!Losing your way in this game was hell
-Agarest generations of war: Completely braindead game,i put the battles on auto pilot and hoped it would get better on the next generations .NOPE!
-Unlimited saga: The negatives FAR outweigh the positives,game is totally imbalanced and as a plus it killed the saGa series in the west.
-Sword of vermillion:Really boring
Astonishia Story got in number 11 for this list, hahahahahaha. I'm serious, it's bad but I didn't think it was THAT bad. Probably worse than FFX13, I'll admit, but I couldn't control my hatred for that game. It changed Final Fantasy for the worst.
Pier Solar, I haven't played it but I'm pretty sure it's not Japanese?
Agarest, I love it but it's just too damn hard. I don't consider it bad at all, though.
Unlimited, I know everybody keeps saying it's awful but I haven't played it!
Sword of Vermillion, yeah, very boring, but wasn't it fan-translated? I don't think it was released outside Japan.
God damn it,astonishia story lost the spot in the shit list! I understand you,i'm also one of the people who believe final fantasy died/radically changed after 10. FF 12 wasn't bad,but i personally dislike it.
Pier solar is a jrpg created by a small company in 2010 that wanted to recapture the magic of SNES-era rpgs,they even released a sega genesis cartidge(talk about devotion). It was a worthy attempt but unfortunately disappointing,for the reasons i mentioned.
No,Sword of vermillion was originally released both in US and EU. Maybe the stores refused to sell it because it was so shitty. I had played it on sega genesis collection for PSP
Unlimited saga,i've explained about it on another video of yours(controversial rpgs i think). I believe u shouldn't play it,it will just leave you frustrated and confused,it's not worth it.
I would say Saga Frontier is one that would be on this list for me talk about a game with no direction and just awful all around.
I did consider Saga Frontier because I really hate that game, but I have to admit that if you play it with a walkthrough all the time, you'll be "fine." It's honestly not that bad, but I really did think about including it.
Yeah I never played it with a guide but even then it was one of those one with massive difficulty spikes. The combat system was almost random as to how powerful you would get. The story was awful for most characters other than Red the super hero guy, I think that was his name.
I never played the second one since I hated the first but your one video made me want to give it a try so its in my back log now haha.
FF XV was way worse than FF XIII and XIII-2
I only played it for a couple of hours and it wasn't bad, but it definitely wasn't Final Fantasy.
Not a bad list, but I would also put Mimana chronicles for the psp. Terrible story, terrible gameplay, game is literally unplayable at times
There’s much worse JRPGs than Final Fantasy XIII - I think you’re just drawing comparison to previous releases from Square. Sure it’s vastly different than its predecessors but there are far more worse JRPGs - trust me. I think it’s a stretch to include the FF13 titles as apart of the worst JRPGs ever.
I can't wait to see the dragon quest swords video hahahaha
10) To be fair, the FF13 trilogy also became victim of Square-Enix or rather modern Square-Enix can't seem to figure out what to do. There was a lack of a unified vision which in turn kind of soured the trilogy.
9) Arcana. Never played it so I got nothing on it.
8) Dragoneer's Aria. Jeezus. No wonder it sucked.
7) I call that a major bait and switch.
6) I never played Dragon Quest Swords and I rather not want to.
5) Lunar Dragon Song... wow. You weren't kidding that it killed the Lunar series. Jeezus.
4) Medabots deserve better honestly. It's still popular in Japan but here, not as much.
3) Drakkhen... oh jeez. What the hell.
2) FFX-2. I think this would be the game that would slowly cause the FF franchise to go downhill.
1) I never played this game but I've seen people play it. Jeezus.
I just started Time and Eternity today. I am not really getting into the combat system at all
well you forget about one game FINAL FANTASY 15!!! or if you wante the second name of it (devil may cry 15 hhhh) i dont igree on final fantasy 13...the ff 15 should be in the list
I'd call it Grand Theft Fantasy 15, hahaha.
hahaha ya man lollll
FF13 is not a great FF and failed expectations, but labelling it as one of the ten worst JRPGs is just utter nonsense. Edit: why do I disagree: production is actually great and if we‘re talking about character clichés then... man, we have to question the majority of JRPGs.
What I couldn't stand more than anything in Lunar Dragon Song was how your equipment could break in battle randomly and become useless. It's already annoying enough that you can't just get money from killing monsters and have to do all these stupid and time consuming "jobs" instead, especially when equipment is a heckuva expensive. But they have to add that in as a big middle finger on top of the money issue. I'd be constantly saving my game after every frickin battle.
So my gripe is with final fantasy X-2 being on this list. If you don't like idols don't like idols but don't say this game constantly pushes idols in your face. Th story was a great continuation of ffx. The dresspheres were an excellent update for a classic job system. The battle system was similar to grandia and other real time turn based rpgs. your whole reasoning for disliking this game is the reason why you like so many others wtf? You are entitled to your opinion Mr. Landon but I thoroughly disagree with this one which is a first since I have been watching your channel.
It is pointless to argue about this topic with you or anybody else and I'm really tired of explaining myself to someone who's just not going to listen. You have your reasons for loving the game and I have mine for hating it. Let's just leave it at that and respect each other's opinions, shall we?
Erick Landon RPG no one's arguing. I just stated my opinion. I don't like that your argument for why this is a bad game is so weak, but I respect your right to your opinion.
One day I will find someone to share my love of 13 with.
There are a lot of them... just need to find them
Yuck
Dragoneers Area is the worst
Yeah, it's fucking terrible.
A dedicated video just for Dragon Quest Swords? Man, you are on fire!
Personally, I did enjoy Final Fantasy XIII, but didn't play it through to the end. Mainly because I didn't have enough time, and there were better games to play, but that didn't make it a bad game by my standards. I few of the others looked okay as well, although I haven't played them yet - namely Arcana, Blade Dancer, Medabots Infinity, FFX-2, and Time and Eternity. The games aren't exactly things I'd go and buy, but if I had the money and the time I'd give them a try. From my view, at least, you can still have fun with most games, even if they are a terrible game.
...Using health to run though?
The thing that I only liked about FFXIII and FFX-2 is the soundtrack, the rest though...
Dragoneers Aria is boring, true. But i beat it when still highschool in class. The final boss fight was so fun. Even my friend can kill it without knowing the game at all.
FF X-2 I thought was the better of all the games on the list
Yeah, it had annoying, sugary aspects to it, but it was basically a good game. I especially thought the Garment Grid system was a clever way of getting all those classes into only three characters.
Okay first minute and you already put FF 13, my absolute favorite games. FF XIII is absolutely the best JRPG I've played, and that is saying a lot seeing how I have probably surpassed the 10k hours needed to master a thing as people say, playing JRPGS. Say what you want, but it's way better than any other Final Fantasy. XV is hot garbage. And the linearity people criticize so much is always present on every other Final Fantasy game, including the all so might FF 7, that I played a lot, but it's not that good, yes I said it, what everybody secretly knows but nostalgia don't let them admit, FF 7 aged like milk, and the Remaster/Remake looks like it will go on all the wrong direction.
I don't understand why FF 2 doesn't get hated on but, people dog pile FF 13.
I agree ff2 is by far worse than ff 13 I also would put. Ff8 at the bottom that draw system crap has not aged well.
ff13 and ff10-2 are for sure not in the worst list i can easily find 100 worse games
Share them then. Tell me about those 100 games that are far worse.
Erick Landon RPG. I hear that Eric Landon RPG is pretty awful. Terrible graphics, awful music, the battle system is broken, inconsistent pacing when walking around the map and running into confrontations, and the storyline is laughable.😄.
personally I hated FF2 infinitely more....but that's me ( and btw, it's entirely for 2 reasons: 1, you can't save in most dungeons if any at all, and 2, the character progression system was obnoxious and stupid IMO....why they replaced EXP and Levels with "take a fuckton of damage and hope to hell your max HP goes up by a few points is beyond me... )
15:02 lol enemy stand far away and she shooting like if she was next to her xD
Seriously, that game is TERRIBLE
I wonder if any of your opinions have changed in the years since this video.
For my part I haven't played most of these.
The first FFXIII was a bad FF true, but I'm not sure it was bad enough rated against the worst JRPGs of all time. I think same is likely to be true of the sequels as well as X-2, but I have not played those.
Arcana and Drakken I 100% agree on. These were two of the worst games on the platform. Especially Drakken.
I completely forgot Time and Eternity existed. I remember some of the promotion prior to release and thinking it looked pretty. I couldn't tell you why I didn't buy it at the time, but looking at the clips here I think I dodged a bullet there.
Drakkhen on SNES isn’t a remake. It’s a port of the Amiga version. Yes, a PORT. Not a remake.
The game is basically the SAME on Amiga, Atari ST and MS DOS.
Fun Fact : it’s one of the first SNES game.
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Dev: I should add that whenever the character attacks, defends, runs, use items, turns, and etc. xDD
Finally someone agrees to me about XIII! I mean, I did like FFXIII-2 tbh, but maybe I was just comparing it to XIII.
Watching the footage of Medabots reminded me of Robo Pit 2... the difference is, I actually enjoyed Robo Pit 2.
ff x2 is kinda good, i remember it being my first ff for ps2 since my mom couldn´t find X and misunderstood XII lol, at first i kinda didn´t wanted to play it, but in the end it won me, and I hate jpop
The battle system in 13-2 Is different tho and imo really engaging
That's one of the things I strongly disliked about that game, lol.
Haha, great list. And it took a lot of courage to speak plainly about some of these titles. I love JPOP idols but still hate FFX-2. It just didn't fit the characters at all (Yuna especially).
ffx WAS AMAZING you are thinking of FFX-2 when they gave Yuna the polar oposite personality. we grew and had wasted tons of character development for her only for it to not matter in the second game. The entire game of FF10-2 SPITS in the face of the first game.
@@Clouds12012 Yikes! You are right, that's what I meant. Fixed the typo!
Eternal Quest for the PS2 was my worst.
I dont like J-pop and Idols theme ever, but as for me, FF X-2 is OK game. Its almost-free roaming grindfest JRPG, and its pretty good for me. I dont care about "oh, its have FINAL FANTASY in its title" thing.
the worst thing about ff xiii is that the first 15 hours of the game u go in a straight fucking line.
You don't like x-2's combat? I thought it was great. It's ATB but cranked up to 11. Really rewards timing your attack as well for chaining bonus. It's got job systems that you can freely switch in battles, tons of customizable options. International version has shit ton of content too, you can build your party in every imaginable way, game has good challenge unlike most FF's, and the game really embraces non-linear exploration with focuses on side stories. I think it doesn't deserve so much hate, even if the story and writing wasn't good. I used to hate it when I was young as I expecting a more traditional , serious sequel to FFX if there's to be one, but replaying the game again, I think it's a lot of dumb, lighthearted fun, and there's nothing wrong with that.
I still hate it.
@@ErickLandonRPG ha ha
The Maximum Carnage theme! Fuck yeah!!
I still liked the final-fantasy games ... they could bring out any type of shit game aslong as it's named final fantasy i would play it -_- fck square enix they know they can release whatever they want and still make money out of it bcuz of fans of the series lol
So, about Arcana... I can understand why some people might not like the whole first person dungeon thing, and the first dungeon IS a bit blah on the eyes (later dungeons are better), the Menus aren't That bad, they're pretty much standard fare for the time period. The story is "eh", it's nothing special, again, but yet it isn't absolutely terrible either. I think the main draw behind Arcana, is its unique (for the time) Element system where different enemies have different elements and you need to match your attacks. This game came out during a time when JRPGs were very... light on strategy and more "spam the Fight Command until everything dies". At least they tried to do something different than RPGMaker #38238129 thing (if RPGMaker had existed back then).
That's a good point about Arcana that I hadn't taken into consideration. I still hate it, though, hahaha.
Fair enough, I mean, there's plenty about the game that's going to be Make-or-Break, Eye of the Beholder fans might love the first person dungeons, but yet top-down RPG players might hate it because it just feels too alien or weird. They took a giant risk with this, and I'm glad they did because we see what happens when developers are too scared to take risks, everything is generic and blah nowadays from the mainstream Triple-A market.
FFX-2 is a spit in the face of the first game that was so amazing that it changed my life as a child who grew up without a father and had to come to terms later in my life (exactly like Tidus does). Tidus is just one of many masterfully done stories told by every character and the general story told in FF10. I am so upset at 10-2 for how out of its way it goes to betray the first game. BTW 13 trilogy was made by the guy who did 10-2
FFX-2 worst ff? No worst FF in the main line series is FF2 nes version. But probably worst jrpg I played is Agarest: generations of war. Generic story and characters, the srpg combat is really boring and its insanely grindy especially if you go for true end, witch is really stingy what route you take on the map. It lets you put stats in what you want but the only viable stat to focus on is stamina because otherwise you will get murdered by everything.
No, Erick is right, X-2 is trash, while FF2 is decent.
FF 15: I am joke to you?