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@@PapiChullo34, as a native speaker, one frequently underestimates how many words one actually knows. Just being surrounded by the language every day by going to school for a decade, by watching TV etc, you pick up so much ... Also, it's not only about the absolute number. Knowing each word intimately, in all sorts of different contexts, that probably makes up the biggest part of understanding a language.
@user-nm3ug3zq1y Definitely, it's a great app but it's a bit annoying that in some languages, when a word goes alongside a particle it doesn't mark the word you did before, and sometimes you don't even remember if you did it or no
@@user-nm3ug3zq1y the point of phrasebooks is that the everyday Joe doesn't have the time to learn languages and they just want to acquire a few useful phrases (and hopefully get a few nods of approval from the locals in the process). They aren't going beyond that point to learn the language of the country that they are visiting, generally, they are there for a short holiday and may never return. The general everyday traveler won't have the passion to learn the language (or time), just look at the majority of Uk residents that travel to Malaga, or Americans going to Cancun or tijuana. Steve's great at promoting his product, and he does it well. But, I wish he'd stop promoting it when i feel it really isn't necessary to do so. I think everyone that watches this channel is bored to death of his infomercials. If he wants to spread the love of his language learning on to others, charge a small one time annual fee or lifetime fee. But, as it is with people, it's generally just about the $$$$
I'll be moving back to Georgia 🇬🇪 (the country) in a couple of months and am trying to get my level of Georgian to a point where I can communicate and have a deeper connection with the people there than I did before. When I lived there a couple of years ago, I learned the basics and could communicate some simple things, such as ordering food, buying groceries, etc, but I definitely could have put myself out there more when it came to speaking. This time I'm determined to be able to communicate better in Georgian and be able to carry out conversations with the locals. If there are any Georgian speakers here, I'd love to connect! Your language, culture, and country is so beautiful! ❤️
Hello,l am an English teacher in Turkey.l think that İzmir is one of the cities you are going to visit.l will be so happy to meet you here.Bon voyage...
Türkiye’ye gittiğinizde eminim size herkes çok yardım edecek. Yaşadığınız tüm deneyimler için Tanriya şükredecek bir daha gelebilmek için dilek ağaçlarımıza rengarenk kurdeleler takacaksınız belkide küçük sevimli kasabalarımızda yaşamak için planlar yapacaksınız. Bol şanslar diliyorum. Canım ülkeme güzel insanlarına sevgiler selamlar 🫂
Lingq 20,000 is more like 10,000 actual words. Let's say he's between B1 and B2 already and knows half of the words. That would be 50 more new words a day to make the goal. That's roughly reading 10 pages of some novel a day. It's not as much as it sounds.
@@user-nm3ug3zq1y not to mention the fact that Lingq counts everything written without spaces as a "word". In Turkish this means that any agglutinative compound is a "word" (i.e. counting gittiğim and girmiş, gittiğimde and giderken, gidiyor and gitmez all as separate words).
@@saiminayatullah6620, omg, absolutely. I use it for Japanese, which uses no spaces whatsoever. Imagine the amount of random pseudo-words popping up all the time, inflating my vocabulary like crazy. Lingq leaves a lot to be desired, if we're honest.
Ülkeme geleceğinizi duymak beni çok mutlu etti. Ben ingilizce öğretmeniyim ve şu anda dilbilim lisans öğrencisiyim. Dil öğrenimi serüvenim devam ediyor ve sizin düşünceleriniz ve rehberliğiniz benim için çok değerli. Umarım karşılaşırız, Ankaraya bekliyorum 🙏
Good luck with your challenge. You will nail it, I'm sure. Soon I will also start to learn Turkish, which will be the most difficult language I have learned so far, and I can't wait for it.
Mr. Kaufman, With all respect. I just wanted to share my perspective on learning 20,000 words in 100 days. While it’s an impressive goal, I find it challenging to measure retention of these words in such a short period. Personally, over the span of a year (365 days), I've read over 760,000 words. This approach allows for a more sustained and deeper immersion in the language, providing ample time for the words to really sink in and become a part of my active vocabulary. Best regards, Bruno.
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Hey Steve, excited to hear you'll be visiting Turkey. I've been living in Istanbul for 2 years or so. The most helpful thing I did to get moving more effectively in my Turkish learning was using LingQ. Hope it will be an amazing trip. I love it. Would love to say hello if you pass through Istanbul and aren't otherwise overloaded with things to do! Happy learning and happy travels!
Verb endings in turkish has a system, once you know the system you can easily conjugate all the verbs and also there is no exception, there is no masculin/feminin, there is no articles (le,la,les etc)
Merhaba Steve can you make Lingq prices special for Turkey? Even with the current 40% discount, it's too much. We can't buy it. There is a huge economic crisis in Turkey.
Agreed, my brain malfunctions because our beloved Steve doesn't need them and I link those thumbnails to incompetent youtubers like Mr.Beast and others. Steve's content has value that very few channels have.
I remove names, cities and make up words from known words in LingQ. So I keep only real words and there tense forms ot plural forms. I became almost imposible to overcome 16K words
That makes sense. With 16,000 actual words known, the number of new words you encounter in any real life source would be lower than 1 percent. It's time then to dive into actual literature, science-heavy writing and stuff like that in order to push yourself further.
Hello Steve. Thank you for your video. Your videos are always so motivating. I like you am preparing for a 3 month trip to Turkiye. I'm learning Turkish since 2 years, atleast one hour a day. It's only now that it's starting to come together. My girlfriend is Turkish and tries to help but having a spouse who is a native speaker is not always a plus. For explanations I find Chat GPT very useful. "CHAT please breakdown this phrase". Anyway Steve. Iyi yolculuklar. Istanbul'da görüşürüz olabilir.
The only problem I have with chatgpt is that its breakdowns are often inaccurate, at least with less common languages. For example, I’m learning Nepali but there aren’t many resources for it so I asked chatgpt to break down some lyrics from a Nepali song I liked, but when I double checked the results by starting a new conversation and asking the same question it gave me a completely different translation.
you can speak basic level Turkish in a month by listening 1 lesson per day from my first list. each lesson is 30 minutes daily conversation with English explanation
I saw that Vietnamese has been added to LingQ recently. I would love to dive into learning it soon. I think it would be interesting to hear about your experience with this language and culture, even though you didn't succeed at acquiring it.
Turks are friendly and Turkish has flexible word order. Just use basic words&verbs hand gestures enough to begin. Nobody expect u to speak well. Speak like Yoda or baby or tarzan. Language learnin is a long journey desire+dedication+practice are needed
Phrase books give you confidence. They do work. I've used them. There are however quite a few problems with phrase books. One is that there are a lot of responses that can be given to a phrase and a lot of them won't be in the phrase book. Another is that people speak colloquially, and so this response will likely not be in the phrase book. Yet an other problem is that phrase books become dated pretty quickly and so you might sound funny to the locals when you speak, which might make you feel like not using the phrase book. Another problem is that phrase books generally don't teach you any grammar, so you won't get a feeling for the language when it is spoken and so can't really intenalise new things you hear. I e. The input isn't plus one difficulty in terms of language acquisition. Another limiting problem with phrase books is that they are very limited in the subjects they cover like being in a hotel, asking directions and eating etc. Sure this gets the job done, but its not very interesting to continually be limited to these subjects.
@@user-nm3ug3zq1y Only if you think they are actually teaching you the language. Phrase books are just tools and they have their place in communication.
20k words in 120 days = 166 words/day!!! personally i do not count different forms of one word to be separate words, but i guess it may depend which language ur targeting
Most different forms of a word shouldn't count as separate words in my opinion. I think most language standards bodies think the same. LingQ is pretty unique in the way it counts words. I have learned German, so if I know that the verb "arbeiten" means to work, then I know the six singular & plural forms of the verb over the six tenses and three modes as different words? That 108 words! Plus of course "Arbeiten" is a noun and it counts as a word, plus all the adverbs and adjectives that derive from it. That's a shitload of words! Steve is likely to learn 2,000 words as a target that most people would recognise as a new words
@@davidbrisbane7206 I think this is a very fair assessment. Thanks for the insight on German! 😂 I'd assume it's far far easier to treat the different forms simply as separate words programming wise. I cannot see it being worth the time on investment for the LingQ team to add all those rules and exceptions for every language they support. I suppose it makes barely any difference to the end user anyway. Other than as Steve says, a higher 'new word learned' count would be more motivating. Which leads to more user retention... yeah, I don't think they'll be changing it haha
LingQ counts as it does due to technical limitations, but a useful side effect is that it allows word count to serve as a better proxy for actual level because it encodes information about grammar knowledge. The truth is learning one form of a verb doesn’t mean you are actually able to use other forms.
I think phrasebooks are more useful if you already have some understanding of the language. Then you can analyze the phrases that are written there and expand your vocabulary.
Thank you for another interesting video, Steve. :) Things in favour for you reaching that 20,000 target. You're a polyglot : you have the experience of learning many languages. You're motivated. Turkish is an agglutinative language so the word count will increase much more than it would in other languages not of that type. My advice would be to look through the phrase book to see how many phrases you already know. Most good phrase books now have audio files for you to listen to which could help. Look at at a different method of learning the language : for example there is a TH-cam channel Turkish101.
That is why it's much more simple to understand language which is similar to your native language, bcs it means that you can easily obtain more words in it
As a native Turkish speaker, I've seen many other natives struggling to speak their native language, it's a hard language but I'm sure you'll figure it out, good luck Steve.
Steve, Your passive knowledge will explode in Turkish just by studying the roots and suffixes. Although you won't be active in all of the thousands of words to learn, you will have a passive knowledge of many of them. I no longer rely using the dictionary one word at a time. Affixes and Roots are the way to go. Considering many of that will be transferable to another sibling language.
I am just starting to learn Thai which is apparently one of the more difficult languages to ‘acquire’ due to the 5 tones, some unique diphthongs, the need to roll your r’s (which I can’t currently do) and a large number of non-Roman characters comprising their alphabet. Just wondering what is the best way of learning to read when all of the characters are initially unrecognisable and hence meaningless? In particular, do you begin by 1st learning/memorising the new characters or do you begin by using the romanticised version…… or perhaps some other way? I am using the Ling app since Thai is not currently available on LingQ. Any advice gratefully accepted.
As there is nothing on LingQ right now, I highly recommend the TH-cam channel Comprehensible Thai. They have sooooo much videos from zero to advanced and I find it so easy to pick things up from their videos :)
The way lingQ counts words is probably the best way imho. You need to be able to recognize a verb( for example) when you see it in each form. In some cases they are regular, others are irregular and there are exceptions. Some different forms are completely different words for example класть/ положить in Russian. There is no other way to count words that makes any sense. I am still a little iffy on what "known" means. I can read and recognize far more words than I can hear for example. But that is ok, I pretty much only count the ones I can recognize during reading and it is definitely a helpful metric.
For languages that have more forms that English and especially those that have dozens of forms, that way eventually stops making much sense in terms of progression. Not all forms are equally tricky and not all of them are equally useful. You can be able to recognise the form even if you've never seen it before and are unlikely to see it again. Languages like Turkish or Japanese are very regular compared to languages like English, French, Russian, Spanish or Swedish. Russian does not boast ten cases or complex conjugation systems but we have participles (more common in writing but still). They behave like adjectives, so you get 12 different endings free of charge.:) A verb like ЧИТАТЬ "read" has an infinitive, 2×3 present-tense forms, 2 imperative forms (chitai, chitaite) and 4 past-tense forms, 13 endings in total. It also has a converb, and four participles (chitayushchiy, chitavshiy, chitaemiy, chitanniy). Theoretically, you have a converb and 48 participle forms. In reality, participles would be less common than using the verb normally (especially in speech)-and if you are comfortable with adjectives, then participle endings are nothing new to you. A random native speaker likely never heard all 48 forms (in particular, oblique cases of chitanniy "the one that was being read"). In that sense, "mastering" yet another rarely used and absolutely regular form of a verb does not give you much boost in terms of understanding the language. Your first forms that are like that-yeah, they definitely do. After a few hundred, you can probably produce or recognise them on any verb in your sleep. Even withing the language, learning the present and the past forms are important, while those 48 forms are largely different endings that you already know. English is the opposite of that: for instance, the meanings of "give in", "knock up", "take off", "look after", "cut it out" do not follow from the meanings of their parts in any predictable way; the first time you encounter them, they are new words to you.
@@HalfgildWynac I see your point but I do not know what other metric could be used. The good thing about the rarely used forms is they may not appear nor get added. I can mechanically conjugate regular verbs easily in Russian so I agree knowing one is kind of like knowing a bunch. I would still say perfective vs non perfective are separate words. If you know those two forms, you can usually generate most of the other forms if regular. That said, I am ok with counting them all as it feels like progress, even if a little deceptive.
it should accumulate known words and suffixes differently. so that; cat=1 word cats=1word +plural suffix but when it accumulates so that; dog=1 word dogs=another 1 word cat=Another 1 word cats=another 1 word so it accumulates totally 4 words. but it should accumulate 2 words and 1 plural suffix
Turkish grammar is all about suffixes. so it should accumulate root words differently and each suffix differently. for example; gelemeyebilirmiş=i heard that he may will not be able to come. - gel=come e=able me=not y=buffer letter between 2 vowels ebil=may ir=will miş=i heard that (no subject suffix means subject is s/he/it - gelemeyebilirlermiş=i heard that they may will not be able to come. -ler=They subject pronoun
Let me ask, when listening, should we look at the vocabulary? I was really confused in the listening section without looking at the vocabulary because I couldn't hear anything at that time. I'm a beginner and I really need your advice
Going back to Greece in September,. Thank you for the tips!! I find the reaction of Greek people most motivating to be honest. last year everybody in restaurants and such were so encouraging and saying bravo haha.. Doing my best to get as much words in as i can. But my goal is still to speak the language in stores and restaurants and asking directions and all that as the chance of me talking about greek history or culture is ways off for me still. Every year a bit better... Maybe with some ouzo i will do better haha. I do also think it will help that i will be going on this trip by myself. Greetings from Holland xxx Juliette
@@Thelinguist Aaahw thank you for answering me.. I am going by myself for the first time in my life. I will just see it as a study trip. Notebook with me everywhere i go. I am going to Corfu this time. I've been to Crete too and to Cyprus, Rhodes and many times to Kos (about 11 times i think).. Needless to say i loooove Greece haha.. Have a lovely weekend xxx Juliette
@@jimmorrison2657 Hello and happy friday.. O how nice that you are learning Greek too.. how do you study if i may ask? Are you doing a course with a teacher or by yourself with an app of some sort?? I wish you good luck too.. .. If you know where you'll be going in Greece please let me know. I am going to Corfu this time. A somewhat smaller island and i will rent a scooter for a couple of days to explore. Have a freat weekend xxx Juliette
@@jetjegoesdutch7933 Hi Juliette. That's sounds great. I have been to Corfu when I was younger. I probably won't be going back for a few years though. I roughly follow the Refold method, which is basically just as much immersion as possible. I watch videos and read books. I started reading the famous 5 in Greek, then Sherlock Holmes, and now a Greek author. What about you?
I thought it is easy to learn language where it is spoken. But you said it is not. I learned Hindi, and I understand Hindi. When I speak, they know that I'm not a native speaker due to masculine and feminine genders in Hindi. If I go to the Hindi-speaking environment, I'll improve it because I already know it. What you says is if you don't understand the language and you want to learn it where it is spoken. In this case, it doesn't work.
Abartmayalım lütfen 🙏 kırsal kesimlerde bile bu kadar az kelime kullanılmıyor. Birde buna yöresel halk dili eklenince ortaya şölenimsi bir durum çıkıyor. Anlamıyorum neden kendi kendimizi bu kadar çok eleştiriyoruz ki 😕
Combien d’heures par jour pensez-vous consacrer au turc pendant ces 100 jours pour ajouter au moins 11’000 mots connus dans LingQ ?J’apprends le turc en utilisant LingQ tous les jours depuis 11 mois à raison de 1h30 à 2h minimum par jour dans LingQ. Avant d’utiliser LingQ, j’avais acquis des bases grammaticales du turc. Je totalise 15000 mots connus « seulement » en m’imposant de ne travailler que le turc ( aucune autre langue) et LingQ est la ressource que j’utilise quasi uniquement partagée entre beaucoup écouter / lire et un peu écrire / parler.
I'm very impressed by your motivation but I think everyone needs a very strong motive to stick with learning a specific language either you live there or need it for your job or have a partner or a part of your family or close friends speak this language otherwise you will simply lose interest because you said yourself there are languages in abundace... e.g. if you will visit Turkey or Croatia each year for your summer holidays to keep up learning more would be natural immersion, more social contacts, more interest on your behalf in history, culture, literature etc. in general otherwise your interest will fade over time
The student needs to develop his or her own individual learning system adapted to your daily routine, area of activity, rhythm of life, interests, etc. First of all, you need to understand what problems are preventing you from learning a foreign language effectively. There is a lot of good material for learning a language on the Internet, but many people don't know how to use it as effectively as possible. However, the practice of Yuriy Ivantsiv "Polyglot Notes. Practical tips for learning foreign language" will help you structure and organize your individual language learning process, allow you to find a method of language learning that will be interesting and unencumbered. Also, subscribe to this channel, because here the author puts very useful videos on learning a language! Thank the author of the channel for the great work in the creation of training videos!
I have been studying on Lingq for about 4 years now (Finnish), but I find it hard to control the number of "known" words, because it is not really up to me. When I read and listen at some point I will recognize that I probably recognize a word in both printing and when listening and that is when I change the word to known. Doing this for at least 2 - 4 hours a day gets me about 10 known words a day, not a 100. I really have no idea how to put a number on known words and consistently achieve that every day. 100 words a day seems like torture to me, and I am not sure I can even achieve that. I do hope that you will indeed make a following video where you can help me set a number and achieve that, because I do not know how to get that achieved. I appreciate the video and I would really like a better progression in my Finnish.
Why do you even care about that? Just continue reading. Your brain has some fixed ratio of words learned per words readen, which largely depends on your memory power. If you want to learn more every day, you have to read and study more as well. Steve may have this ratio higher than you and me. I don't think you can find an easy way to change the ratio itself. Also, Lingq counts each form as a separate word, so word count looks better for synthetic languages (like Turkish or Russian) compared to analytic ones like English.
What's up with all of these religious comments calling out Steve? What's wrong with you people? Oh my Lord Steve🛐your mightiness trascends space and time, I follow your word and I'll forever be your servant 🛐🛐
İstanbul'daki binalar depreme dayanıklı değil. Orada uzun süre kalmak güvenli değil. (Buildings in Istanbul (Constantinople) are not earthquake resistant. It's not safe to stay there for long.)
ourism business?Hello Steve from İstanbul, Turkey What part of Turkey areyou planningto go? If youk think 3:36 of Fethiye, a town on the Aegean coast, my daughter and her husband may help you. They are in the t
Hallelujah!!! I’m blessed and favored with $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and support the work of God and the church. For Your glory, LORD! HALLELUJAH!
Absolutely! I have heard stories of people who started with little or no knowledge but managed to emerge victorious thanks to Ana Graciela Blackwelder.
Hello Steve. I’m waiting for you in Istanbul. I can help you face to face or online about anything related to Turkey or Turkish. As you requested before, I sent you an e-mail. I hope you saw it.
I think it depends if you're looking to express yourself or understand others. With a small number of words it can be possible to get your own point across, as a native speaker will obviously know the words you're using - but the person you're speaking with doesn't know which words you know, so if you don't know a large enough number of basic words it'll take significant effort to understand what they're saying. And if they're not just speaking to you but to a group of people, they won't always be able to accommodate your level of the language. That said, I'm a big fan of the idea of starting to speak early in the language journey, to develop both confidence and the basic skill of producing words in another language, even when you don't know many words - having a tutor or a good friend or family member who's ok with taking the time to help out is very useful for that.
Great! Super! Dear Steve, many thanks indeed for your videos and sharing your experience. Your scale is VERY impressing. Not 200 words, not even 2,000 - 20,000 !!!!!! I didn't think a human being is capable for it. You are the greatest Role Model for me and true inspiration and motivation. BRAVO!!! MANY THANKS!!!!
20000 words is ridiculous. You mean you've seen 20,000 words or you know them as in know them by heart. Anyway, I've read that we can be quite conversational with about 3000 words.
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how to make conversation with you ? can you open your e-mail in public?
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steve is still on fire at this age, inspiring legend
You’ve inspired me to learn 20,000 new words. Im learning russian and german currently and ive been so busy but i finally have free time
20,000! I have about 22,000 Known Japanese words in my LingQ account, over a 4 year period :)
Well, he’s starting at 9000, and Turkish is very inflected
Lingq just doesn't count them properly.
20,000 may actually be half of that or less.
i'm 24 years old turkish native and i have 12,000 :(
@@PapiChullo34, as a native speaker, one frequently underestimates how many words one actually knows. Just being surrounded by the language every day by going to school for a decade, by watching TV etc, you pick up so much ...
Also, it's not only about the absolute number. Knowing each word intimately, in all sorts of different contexts, that probably makes up the biggest part of understanding a language.
@user-nm3ug3zq1y Definitely, it's a great app but it's a bit annoying that in some languages, when a word goes alongside a particle it doesn't mark the word you did before, and sometimes you don't even remember if you did it or no
You are crazy grandpa 🙋🏻♂️
He tells you what needs to be done in order to be successful.
That's actually the opposite of crazy.
But you're not wrong either. 😂
@@user-nm3ug3zq1y the point of phrasebooks is that the everyday Joe doesn't have the time to learn languages and they just want to acquire a few useful phrases (and hopefully get a few nods of approval from the locals in the process). They aren't going beyond that point to learn the language of the country that they are visiting, generally, they are there for a short holiday and may never return. The general everyday traveler won't have the passion to learn the language (or time), just look at the majority of Uk residents that travel to Malaga, or Americans going to Cancun or tijuana. Steve's great at promoting his product, and he does it well. But, I wish he'd stop promoting it when i feel it really isn't necessary to do so. I think everyone that watches this channel is bored to death of his infomercials. If he wants to spread the love of his language learning on to others, charge a small one time annual fee or lifetime fee. But, as it is with people, it's generally just about the $$$$
I'll be moving back to Georgia 🇬🇪 (the country) in a couple of months and am trying to get my level of Georgian to a point where I can communicate and have a deeper connection with the people there than I did before. When I lived there a couple of years ago, I learned the basics and could communicate some simple things, such as ordering food, buying groceries, etc, but I definitely could have put myself out there more when it came to speaking. This time I'm determined to be able to communicate better in Georgian and be able to carry out conversations with the locals.
If there are any Georgian speakers here, I'd love to connect! Your language, culture, and country is so beautiful! ❤️
Umarım güzel zaman geçirirsiniz! Dil öğrenmeye heveslenince sizin videolarınızı izliyorum. Sağolun 😊
Hello,l am an English teacher in Turkey.l think that İzmir is one of the cities you are going to visit.l will be so happy to meet you here.Bon voyage...
Türkiye’ye gittiğinizde eminim size herkes çok yardım edecek. Yaşadığınız tüm deneyimler için Tanriya şükredecek bir daha gelebilmek için dilek ağaçlarımıza rengarenk kurdeleler takacaksınız belkide küçük sevimli kasabalarımızda yaşamak için planlar yapacaksınız. Bol şanslar diliyorum.
Canım ülkeme güzel insanlarına sevgiler selamlar 🫂
*20,000 WORDS?!*
Man! You’re a SAVAGE, Steve! You’re a *MADMAN!*
If I had your drive, I probably would’ve taken over the world.
Lingq 20,000 is more like 10,000 actual words.
Let's say he's between B1 and B2 already and knows half of the words.
That would be 50 more new words a day to make the goal.
That's roughly reading 10 pages of some novel a day.
It's not as much as it sounds.
@@user-nm3ug3zq1y not to mention the fact that Lingq counts everything written without spaces as a "word". In Turkish this means that any agglutinative compound is a "word" (i.e. counting gittiğim and girmiş, gittiğimde and giderken, gidiyor and gitmez all as separate words).
@@saiminayatullah6620, omg, absolutely.
I use it for Japanese, which uses no spaces whatsoever.
Imagine the amount of random pseudo-words popping up all the time, inflating my vocabulary like crazy.
Lingq leaves a lot to be desired, if we're honest.
Ülkeme geleceğinizi duymak beni çok mutlu etti. Ben ingilizce öğretmeniyim ve şu anda dilbilim lisans öğrencisiyim. Dil öğrenimi serüvenim devam ediyor ve sizin düşünceleriniz ve rehberliğiniz benim için çok değerli. Umarım karşılaşırız, Ankaraya bekliyorum 🙏
Good luck with your challenge. You will nail it, I'm sure. Soon I will also start to learn Turkish, which will be the most difficult language I have learned so far, and I can't wait for it.
Umarım karşınıza güzel insanlar çıkar ve güzel zaman geçirirsiniz 💐
Mr. Kaufman,
With all respect.
I just wanted to share my perspective on learning 20,000 words in 100 days. While it’s an impressive goal, I find it challenging to measure retention of these words in such a short period. Personally, over the span of a year (365 days), I've read over 760,000 words. This approach allows for a more sustained and deeper immersion in the language, providing ample time for the words to really sink in and become a part of my active vocabulary.
Best regards,
Bruno.
Hey Steve, excited to hear you'll be visiting Turkey. I've been living in Istanbul for 2 years or so. The most helpful thing I did to get moving more effectively in my Turkish learning was using LingQ. Hope it will be an amazing trip. I love it. Would love to say hello if you pass through Istanbul and aren't otherwise overloaded with things to do! Happy learning and happy travels!
Verb endings in turkish has a system, once you know the system you can easily conjugate all the verbs and also there is no exception, there is no masculin/feminin, there is no articles (le,la,les etc)
Just because the number goes up in linq doesn't mean you know the words and can say it off your tongue.
It counts your passive vocabulary, not your active vocabulary.
Merhaba Steve can you make Lingq prices special for Turkey? Even with the current 40% discount, it's too much. We can't buy it. There is a huge economic crisis in Turkey.
Don't use such silly thumbnails,your content is good enough to click without it
Agreed, my brain malfunctions because our beloved Steve doesn't need them and I link those thumbnails to incompetent youtubers like Mr.Beast and others. Steve's content has value that very few channels have.
I agree. Trying to be like every other TH-cam thumbnail is not cute.
I agree too
Clickbait thumbnails are not good
even if you're right , you have to be respectfull . especially to your elders
I remove names, cities and make up words from known words in LingQ. So I keep only real words and there tense forms ot plural forms. I became almost imposible to overcome 16K words
That makes sense.
With 16,000 actual words known, the number of new words you encounter in any real life source would be lower than 1 percent.
It's time then to dive into actual literature, science-heavy writing and stuff like that in order to push yourself further.
As much as it seems hard Turkish is a great language and easy language. For any one interested you can learn it via Immersive translate
Hello Steve. Thank you for your video. Your videos are always so motivating. I like you am preparing for a 3 month trip to Turkiye. I'm learning Turkish since 2 years, atleast one hour a day. It's only now that it's starting to come together. My girlfriend is Turkish and tries to help but having a spouse who is a native speaker is not always a plus. For explanations I find Chat GPT very useful. "CHAT please breakdown this phrase". Anyway Steve. Iyi yolculuklar. Istanbul'da görüşürüz olabilir.
İstanbulda "görüşebiliriz." instead of görüşürüz olabilir. I know, it is weird :D Enjoy your trip! İyi yolculuklar!
The only problem I have with chatgpt is that its breakdowns are often inaccurate, at least with less common languages. For example, I’m learning Nepali but there aren’t many resources for it so I asked chatgpt to break down some lyrics from a Nepali song I liked, but when I double checked the results by starting a new conversation and asking the same question it gave me a completely different translation.
you can speak basic level Turkish in a month by listening 1 lesson per day from my first list. each lesson is 30 minutes daily conversation with English explanation
My ONE and ONLY TH-camr about LANGUAGE LEARNING!
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Phrase books simply represent vocabulary in useful context. I find them enormously helpful.
Yay 🎉❤finally we’ll see you in Turkiye!
I saw that Vietnamese has been added to LingQ recently. I would love to dive into learning it soon. I think it would be interesting to hear about your experience with this language and culture, even though you didn't succeed at acquiring it.
İnşallah iyi zaman geçirirsin.
İyi şanslar!
iyi tatiller steve amca :D
I'm fond of Hippocrene's Turkish Phrasebook by Charles Gates due to the grammar summary in the beginning of it.
Turks are friendly and Turkish has flexible word order. Just use basic words&verbs hand gestures enough to begin. Nobody expect u to speak well. Speak like Yoda or baby or tarzan. Language learnin is a long journey desire+dedication+practice are needed
Great topic to address Steve. Thanks as always
thank you for this video, I need it
Phrase books give you confidence. They do work. I've used them.
There are however quite a few problems with phrase books.
One is that there are a lot of responses that can be given to a phrase and a lot of them won't be in the phrase book.
Another is that people speak colloquially, and so this response will likely not be in the phrase book.
Yet an other problem is that phrase books become dated pretty quickly and so you might sound funny to the locals when you speak, which might make you feel like not using the phrase book.
Another problem is that phrase books generally don't teach you any grammar, so you won't get a feeling for the language when it is spoken and so can't really intenalise new things you hear. I e. The input isn't plus one difficulty in terms of language acquisition.
Another limiting problem with phrase books is that they are very limited in the subjects they cover like being in a hotel, asking directions and eating etc. Sure this gets the job done, but its not very interesting to continually be limited to these subjects.
In short: Phrase books give you a false confidence.
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Only if you think they are actually teaching you the language. Phrase books are just tools and they have their place in communication.
As alway Steve you inspire me, sharing your experience in language learning keeps me on track, thank you so helpful and motivational 🫶
20k words in 120 days = 166 words/day!!!
personally i do not count different forms of one word to be separate words, but i guess it may depend which language ur targeting
Most different forms of a word shouldn't count as separate words in my opinion. I think most language standards bodies think the same. LingQ is pretty unique in the way it counts words.
I have learned German, so if I know that the verb "arbeiten" means to work, then I know the six singular & plural forms of the verb over the six tenses and three modes as different words? That 108 words! Plus of course "Arbeiten" is a noun and it counts as a word, plus all the adverbs and adjectives that derive from it. That's a shitload of words!
Steve is likely to learn 2,000 words as a target that most people would recognise as a new words
@@davidbrisbane7206 I think this is a very fair assessment. Thanks for the insight on German! 😂
I'd assume it's far far easier to treat the different forms simply as separate words programming wise. I cannot see it being worth the time on investment for the LingQ team to add all those rules and exceptions for every language they support.
I suppose it makes barely any difference to the end user anyway. Other than as Steve says, a higher 'new word learned' count would be more motivating. Which leads to more user retention... yeah, I don't think they'll be changing it haha
Turkish has a lot of forms per word, but anyway Steve has a very good memory
LingQ counts as it does due to technical limitations, but a useful side effect is that it allows word count to serve as a better proxy for actual level because it encodes information about grammar knowledge. The truth is learning one form of a verb doesn’t mean you are actually able to use other forms.
I think phrasebooks are more useful if you already have some understanding of the language. Then you can analyze the phrases that are written there and expand your vocabulary.
Thank you for another interesting video, Steve. :)
Things in favour for you reaching that 20,000 target.
You're a polyglot : you have the experience of learning many languages.
You're motivated.
Turkish is an agglutinative language so the word count will increase much more than it would in other languages not of that type.
My advice would be to look through the phrase book to see how many phrases you already know. Most good phrase books now have audio files for you to listen to which could help. Look at at a different method of learning the language : for example there is a TH-cam channel Turkish101.
i am a big fun of you. than you for sharing your super valuable experiences 😍
Hello Mr. Kaufmann: Missed the opportunity to hear you in person at the mini- language conference last Sunday. Had to stay home with a bad flu.
Kolay gelsin, iyi çalışmalar Linguist dedem 🙃
That is why it's much more simple to understand language which is similar to your native language, bcs it means that you can easily obtain more words in it
As a native Turkish speaker, I've seen many other natives struggling to speak their native language, it's a hard language but I'm sure you'll figure it out, good luck Steve.
Steve,
Your passive knowledge will explode in Turkish just by studying the roots and suffixes. Although you won't be active in all of the thousands of words to learn, you will have a passive knowledge of many of them. I no longer rely using the dictionary one word at a time. Affixes and Roots are the way to go. Considering many of that will be transferable to another sibling language.
My personal holy trio is duolingo, youtube and phrasebooks(both books themselves and serfing on web for grammar).
I am just starting to learn Thai which is apparently one of the more difficult languages to ‘acquire’ due to the 5 tones, some unique diphthongs, the need to roll your r’s (which I can’t currently do) and a large number of non-Roman characters comprising their alphabet. Just wondering what is the best way of learning to read when all of the characters are initially unrecognisable and hence meaningless? In particular, do you begin by 1st learning/memorising the new characters or do you begin by using the romanticised version…… or perhaps some other way? I am using the Ling app since Thai is not currently available on LingQ. Any advice gratefully accepted.
As there is nothing on LingQ right now, I highly recommend the TH-cam channel Comprehensible Thai.
They have sooooo much videos from zero to advanced and I find it so easy to pick things up from their videos :)
Good luck along your journey 🎉
Moral of the story: word count is just a measure of how hard you work, not a goal.
Not even that, if it's managed as arbitrarily as at Lingq.
@@user-nm3ug3zq1y Why arbitrarily? I never used LingQ.
@@user-nm3ug3zq1y How so arbitrarly? I never used that app.
The way lingQ counts words is probably the best way imho. You need to be able to recognize a verb( for example) when you see it in each form. In some cases they are regular, others are irregular and there are exceptions. Some different forms are completely different words for example класть/ положить in Russian. There is no other way to count words that makes any sense. I am still a little iffy on what "known" means. I can read and recognize far more words than I can hear for example. But that is ok, I pretty much only count the ones I can recognize during reading and it is definitely a helpful metric.
It makes it tricky to compare languages.
20,000 in Chinese vs. 20,000 in German would put you at a wholly different level.
For languages that have more forms that English and especially those that have dozens of forms, that way eventually stops making much sense in terms of progression. Not all forms are equally tricky and not all of them are equally useful. You can be able to recognise the form even if you've never seen it before and are unlikely to see it again.
Languages like Turkish or Japanese are very regular compared to languages like English, French, Russian, Spanish or Swedish.
Russian does not boast ten cases or complex conjugation systems but we have participles (more common in writing but still). They behave like adjectives, so you get 12 different endings free of charge.:) A verb like ЧИТАТЬ "read" has an infinitive, 2×3 present-tense forms, 2 imperative forms (chitai, chitaite) and 4 past-tense forms, 13 endings in total. It also has a converb, and four participles (chitayushchiy, chitavshiy, chitaemiy, chitanniy). Theoretically, you have a converb and 48 participle forms. In reality, participles would be less common than using the verb normally (especially in speech)-and if you are comfortable with adjectives, then participle endings are nothing new to you. A random native speaker likely never heard all 48 forms (in particular, oblique cases of chitanniy "the one that was being read").
In that sense, "mastering" yet another rarely used and absolutely regular form of a verb does not give you much boost in terms of understanding the language. Your first forms that are like that-yeah, they definitely do. After a few hundred, you can probably produce or recognise them on any verb in your sleep. Even withing the language, learning the present and the past forms are important, while those 48 forms are largely different endings that you already know.
English is the opposite of that: for instance, the meanings of "give in", "knock up", "take off", "look after", "cut it out" do not follow from the meanings of their parts in any predictable way; the first time you encounter them, they are new words to you.
@@HalfgildWynac I see your point but I do not know what other metric could be used. The good thing about the rarely used forms is they may not appear nor get added. I can mechanically conjugate regular verbs easily in Russian so I agree knowing one is kind of like knowing a bunch. I would still say perfective vs non perfective are separate words. If you know those two forms, you can usually generate most of the other forms if regular. That said, I am ok with counting them all as it feels like progress, even if a little deceptive.
it should accumulate known words and suffixes differently. so that;
cat=1 word
cats=1word +plural suffix
but when it accumulates so that;
dog=1 word
dogs=another 1 word
cat=Another 1 word
cats=another 1 word
so it accumulates totally 4 words.
but it should accumulate
2 words and 1 plural suffix
Turkish grammar is all about suffixes. so it should accumulate root words differently and each suffix differently.
for example;
gelemeyebilirmiş=i heard that he may will not be able to come.
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gel=come
e=able
me=not
y=buffer letter between 2 vowels
ebil=may
ir=will
miş=i heard that
(no subject suffix means subject is s/he/it
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gelemeyebilirlermiş=i heard that they may will not be able to come.
-ler=They subject pronoun
Let me ask, when listening, should we look at the vocabulary? I was really confused in the listening section without looking at the vocabulary because I couldn't hear anything at that time. I'm a beginner and I really need your advice
Going back to Greece in September,. Thank you for the tips!! I find the reaction of Greek people most motivating to be honest. last year everybody in restaurants and such were so encouraging and saying bravo haha.. Doing my best to get as much words in as i can. But my goal is still to speak the language in stores and restaurants and asking directions and all that as the chance of me talking about greek history or culture is ways off for me still. Every year a bit better... Maybe with some ouzo i will do better haha. I do also think it will help that i will be going on this trip by myself. Greetings from Holland xxx Juliette
I am learning Greek too. I need to go there soon. Good luck with your studies👍
Yes, the Greeks, on Crete and in Athens were vey tolerant of my efforts and encouraging.
@@Thelinguist Aaahw thank you for answering me.. I am going by myself for the first time in my life. I will just see it as a study trip. Notebook with me everywhere i go. I am going to Corfu this time. I've been to Crete too and to Cyprus, Rhodes and many times to Kos (about 11 times i think).. Needless to say i loooove Greece haha.. Have a lovely weekend xxx Juliette
@@jimmorrison2657 Hello and happy friday.. O how nice that you are learning Greek too.. how do you study if i may ask? Are you doing a course with a teacher or by yourself with an app of some sort?? I wish you good luck too.. .. If you know where you'll be going in Greece please let me know. I am going to Corfu this time. A somewhat smaller island and i will rent a scooter for a couple of days to explore. Have a freat weekend xxx Juliette
@@jetjegoesdutch7933 Hi Juliette. That's sounds great. I have been to Corfu when I was younger. I probably won't be going back for a few years though. I roughly follow the Refold method, which is basically just as much immersion as possible. I watch videos and read books. I started reading the famous 5 in Greek, then Sherlock Holmes, and now a Greek author. What about you?
Study the phrasebook. Confidently ask for directions to the station. Listen to the native speaker emit an incomprehensible stream of words.
I thought it is easy to learn language where it is spoken. But you said it is not. I learned Hindi, and I understand Hindi. When I speak, they know that I'm not a native speaker due to masculine and feminine genders in Hindi. If I go to the Hindi-speaking environment, I'll improve it because I already know it. What you says is if you don't understand the language and you want to learn it where it is spoken. In this case, it doesn't work.
This is great advice and challenge accepted.
İyi şanslar
Biz ortalama yüz kelime ile konuşuyoruz. 20 bin kelime bilen son Türk Zeki Müren'di sanırım.
Abartmayalım lütfen 🙏 kırsal kesimlerde bile bu kadar az kelime kullanılmıyor. Birde buna yöresel halk dili eklenince ortaya şölenimsi bir durum çıkıyor. Anlamıyorum neden kendi kendimizi bu kadar çok eleştiriyoruz ki 😕
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Sen öyle konuşuyorsun diye herkezi de kendin gibi sanıyorsun galiba.
@@placebo_7505 Önce "herkes" yazmayı öğren, ondan sonra laf sokmaya çalış.
@@c.tamircisi Google ses özelliğini kullandım. Kendi öyle yazmış. Ayrıca laf sokmadım, kendi yazdığını sana yazdım. 100 kelimelik kişilik.
i offer old trt programs.. e.g 1980s.. you can listen pure Tufkish. trt is turkish radio television.
Combien d’heures par jour pensez-vous consacrer au turc pendant ces 100 jours pour ajouter au moins 11’000 mots connus dans LingQ ?J’apprends le turc en utilisant LingQ tous les jours depuis 11 mois à raison de 1h30 à 2h minimum par jour dans LingQ. Avant d’utiliser LingQ, j’avais acquis des bases grammaticales du turc. Je totalise 15000 mots connus « seulement » en m’imposant de ne travailler que le turc ( aucune autre langue) et LingQ est la ressource que j’utilise quasi uniquement partagée entre beaucoup écouter / lire et un peu écrire / parler.
I disagree that every flexioned version of a word is a separate word. I'm curious about what Steve thinks about the Easy Languages network.
I'm very impressed by your motivation but I think everyone needs a very strong motive to stick with learning a specific language either you live there or need it for your job or have a partner or a part of your family or close friends speak this language otherwise you will simply lose interest because you said yourself there are languages in abundace... e.g. if you will visit Turkey or Croatia each year for your summer holidays to keep up learning more would be natural immersion, more social contacts, more interest on your behalf in history, culture, literature etc. in general otherwise your interest will fade over time
Bol şans.
How long does it take to reach 100 words in a day? 3 hours?
If I learn the same word 20,000 times, does that count as learning 20,000 words?
The student needs to develop his or her own individual learning system adapted to your daily routine, area of activity, rhythm of life, interests, etc. First of all, you need to understand what problems are preventing you from learning a foreign language effectively. There is a lot of good material for learning a language on the Internet, but many people don't know how to use it as effectively as possible. However, the practice of Yuriy Ivantsiv "Polyglot Notes. Practical tips for learning foreign language" will help you structure and organize your individual language learning process, allow you to find a method of language learning that will be interesting and unencumbered. Also, subscribe to this channel, because here the author puts very useful videos on learning a language! Thank the author of the channel for the great work in the creation of training videos!
Only a hyperpolyglot gigachad could pull this off aka Steve
I AGREED !!!!!
Maybe I will learn 1 Turkish word in 20000 days, but I'm not sure yet...
I have been studying on Lingq for about 4 years now (Finnish), but I find it hard to control the number of "known" words, because it is not really up to me. When I read and listen at some point I will recognize that I probably recognize a word in both printing and when listening and that is when I change the word to known. Doing this for at least 2 - 4 hours a day gets me about 10 known words a day, not a 100. I really have no idea how to put a number on known words and consistently achieve that every day. 100 words a day seems like torture to me, and I am not sure I can even achieve that. I do hope that you will indeed make a following video where you can help me set a number and achieve that, because I do not know how to get that achieved. I appreciate the video and I would really like a better progression in my Finnish.
Why do you even care about that?
Just continue reading. Your brain has some fixed ratio of words learned per words readen, which largely depends on your memory power. If you want to learn more every day, you have to read and study more as well. Steve may have this ratio higher than you and me. I don't think you can find an easy way to change the ratio itself.
Also, Lingq counts each form as a separate word, so word count looks better for synthetic languages (like Turkish or Russian) compared to analytic ones like English.
What's up with all of these religious comments calling out Steve? What's wrong with you people?
Oh my Lord Steve🛐your mightiness trascends space and time, I follow your word and I'll forever be your servant 🛐🛐
İstanbul'daki binalar depreme dayanıklı değil. Orada uzun süre kalmak güvenli değil. (Buildings in Istanbul (Constantinople) are not earthquake resistant. It's not safe to stay there for long.)
Constantinople?
Yes. Istanbul = Constantinople
Is re reading a book in spanish worth it? Because I'm already familiar with the context
ourism business?Hello Steve from İstanbul, Turkey What part of Turkey areyou planningto go? If youk think 3:36 of Fethiye, a town on the Aegean coast, my daughter and her husband may help you. They are in the t
Thank you
Bol sans,kolau gelding.
Bol sans kolay gelsin
Harika!
hello grandpa , I would like to travel you to Turkey
Do you intentionally say "iphone" in every video? Ive been wondering
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Hallelujah!!! I’m blessed and favored with $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and support the work of God and the church. For Your glory, LORD! HALLELUJAH!
That’s fascinating! I’m always keen to learn about people’s successes. I’d love to hear more about your achievements.
This is what Ana Graciela Blackwelder does, she has changed my life.
After raising up to 60k trading with her, I bought a new house and car here in the US and also paid for my son’s (Oscar) surgery. Glory to God.shalom.
I know Ana Graciela Blackwelder, and I have also had success...
Absolutely! I have heard stories of people who started with little or no knowledge but managed to emerge victorious thanks to Ana Graciela Blackwelder.
I m Turkish i m not sure if i know 20 000 words 😂😂
Steve counts yapıyor and yapıyorum as two words.
I would count them as one word. I think with 4000 words as I count it you are on B2 level.
Can I use japanese form zero to learn japanese
Abraços do Brasil Steve
I want to learn Italian
excellent
Have we seen any evidence of his language learning?
i don’t think that any vietnamese people would think that you mean cảm ơn if you say come on ,so in fact you have not learnt any vietnamese in 2 weeks
100 words a day??
Hello Steve. I’m waiting for you in Istanbul. I can help you face to face or online about anything related to Turkey or Turkish. As you requested before, I sent you an e-mail. I hope you saw it.
I do believe that learning a language is not about memorising a huge number of words. Babies start speaking with a very limited number of words !
I think it depends if you're looking to express yourself or understand others. With a small number of words it can be possible to get your own point across, as a native speaker will obviously know the words you're using - but the person you're speaking with doesn't know which words you know, so if you don't know a large enough number of basic words it'll take significant effort to understand what they're saying. And if they're not just speaking to you but to a group of people, they won't always be able to accommodate your level of the language. That said, I'm a big fan of the idea of starting to speak early in the language journey, to develop both confidence and the basic skill of producing words in another language, even when you don't know many words - having a tutor or a good friend or family member who's ok with taking the time to help out is very useful for that.
Great! Super! Dear Steve, many thanks indeed for your videos and sharing your experience. Your scale is VERY impressing. Not 200 words, not even 2,000 - 20,000 !!!!!! I didn't think a human being is capable for it. You are the greatest Role Model for me and true inspiration and motivation. BRAVO!!! MANY THANKS!!!!
What happened to Hindi?
back burner since I decided to go to Turkey.
20000 words is ridiculous. You mean you've seen 20,000 words or you know them as in know them by heart. Anyway, I've read that we can be quite conversational with about 3000 words.
Hi Steve😊
Same speed as my goal before my Japanese trip in 69 days
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how are you?. that is nice -=))
promotion?
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