Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all of you, Legends! :) What do you think about all of this? The focus on stock grind in those lines is pretty big, you like it?
The buffs and nerfs seem pretty good have to see how they play out in the test servers before the release. Merry Christmas to you and the family and may you have a safe holiday period, appreciate the content you put out for us your fans.
I think there's a mistake with the turret and hull being confused on the Type 71. The hull is 120. the turret is already 300mm. So they are buffing the hull from 120 to 165mm which will make a massive difference.
Yea that'll make a big difference. I'm in the minority of people who actually enjoy playing it already, but it suffers badly because of that hull armor. Now 165mm with that slope might actually be able to bounce some tier 10 AP shells when you're using your gun depression
Yeah they made a typo for sure, it has to be the hull armor. AND because of this new buff, you may actually be able to bounce some stuff off your hull if you overpeek!
@@hell-bentfpv it's currently 200mm effective armor on flat ground. +37,5% thickness equals about 275mm effective armor on even ground and 300 when using max gun depression, give or take. Edit: source is tanks gg vs its own AP, so it should be better vs APCR and HEAT.
There's a mistake in the E-75 notes, the turret armor buffs are for the stock turret and not the top turret. Top turret already has 280mm front and 160mm cheeks. Pen buff is nice but it's already a very good tank.
nerf that shits lower plate PLEASE, most tier 8 heavies struggle to pen it even with gold, 235 mm armor with AP if you hit it flat frontaly and as soon as there is some angle you cant pen it with the tanks that have 250 gold pen which is alot nowadays
@@ChiliChicken That's what you call progress! You're supposed to unlock the next best tank so that you're on a par and can tackle Tier 9 tanks! Otherwise, what would be the point of the game if you didn't have this progress? Maybe you should also learn how to outplay other players and flank them!
@@theVlKlNGRbro i have a unicum winrate, but the issue still stands because wg are turning every map into 3 corridors with no flanks so what are you gonna do when you cant pen a tanks only real frontal weakspot in a corridor where you cant go around them, and progress doesnt even matter when 70% of the tier 8-9mm is premium tanks that cant progress.
I find I still bounce a lot of shots with mine, it was just the HE nerfs that killed it, I have so many 0 damage hits, just yesterday I hit an EBR in the face for 0 damage, the derp made the tank, with the standard gun your better off playing other tanks.
Because Type 5 isn't used in Onslaught unless you are a masochist. The nerf on S. Conqueror was obvious because it became meta for Ranked like Kranvagn was and now the nerf goes to the 60TP which was always strong but overshadowed by stronger competitors that have been bonked already. If the Yoh tier X gets overbuffed with this buff I smell a nerf for summer, it's EXACTLY the same situation as in the AMX M4 54.
Game modes I never play seem to cause nerfs ln tanks I am grinding for. So many examples of total crap tanks, some mentioned in these comments, are neglected.
Plus it's fun to have multiple gun options on tanks. Imagine if AT-7 6-pdr autoloader got a pen buff. I would like a reload buff and maybe gun depression buff on the 122mm on the KV-85 so that it's viable. Right now it has the lowest DPM of all tier VI non-autoloader non-SPG tanks, and the worst gun depression.
Here is the issue I have with these buffs especially with Tier VIII. It really sucks for Tier VII and VI in match making. They need to stop +2, -2 with Tier VII and lower. Tier VIII and higher are to OP for lower tiers in the current META.
@@FunkyBananaBearThey should make it where Tier VII and lower never meet Tier VIII or higher and Tier VIII, IX and X face each other. Tier VIII, IX and X are competitive for each other but Tier VII and lower are at an extremely huge disadvantage facing those higher tiers..
Did the 60TP need a nerf ? i dont think so. They seem to be nerfing tanks based on the popularity. This is 100% how you make players quit your game : destroy their favourite toy
@AstrumDeus I disagree with that. It is a good tier 10 heavy but far from the strongest. I'd argue to say tanks like T110E5, S.Conq and IS-7 are much more annoying to play against. I've never had trouble playing against 60tp's and it never felt OP playing it myself.
@AstrumDeus no it isnt strongest xd, but its good tank bcs it have a lot of HP and amor if you are standing in front of 50years old grandpa that dont know how to aim.
As soon as i get the 60tp, it get announced that its being nerfed. Man i dont care about the dpm but leave the accuracy alone!!!! I legitimately couldnt care less about the dpm, but the already derpy gun getting even less accurate is gonna drive me crazy. Like come on wargaming, the 60tp is very easy to counter if you know what youre doing, why is it getting nerfed like that????
@@GewelReal Its a pile of shit. An absolute joke compared to the E75 and many other heavies of that tier. Id say some tier 8 prem tanks are even better than that thing, and I say that as 2500 wn8 player, so I am not shit at the game or so. Its just outdated, because we have hull down meta and quick games, while this tank is a slow sidescraper.
Honestly I hope all of the buffs go thru! would be a great Christmas present. The E-100 is a giant Barn that people just stop what they are doing and shot at it. lol.
Tbh I never liked my 60tp; the gun doesn’t hit, ammo rack blows up, engine is like a torch, and somehow WG decides to nerf it…😅Guess I won’t play 60tp anymore.
They've been working on it for a while, it's already gone through 2 internal balance change tests. They're taking more time on it because they want to rework it.
Ehh, the buff only applies to stock turret and engine though? Only the pen is going up by 9mm and honestly, about damn time. 246 pen at tier 9 is tragic for a heavy.
They're only buffing the top gun with like 9mm of pen on the AP shells, there is a mistake in the video where he puts the armour buffs from the stock turret on the top turret. Top configuration E75 will only get a small AP pen buff.
E75 is strong, but the stupid side-skirt armour is over matched every single time, they should buff the plate under the track by like 5mm and it's fixed. Thing can't sidescrape anymore
Is the turret armour being buffed or the hull armour being buffed on the Type 71, since the current frontal hull armour is 120mm and the turret frontal armor is 300mm? @21:03 I can see that there must be a mistake on where the buff will be. It says that the turret front will be buff from 120mm to 165mm; it doesn't seem to add up. Tell me if I am wrong...
A lot of people say that 60tp is already balanced. It has quite a few weak points, derpy gun, weak ammo rack and average pen. Why nerf it? Because it's popular?
If they are going to nerf the 60TP that hard in DPM and Accuracy (Which is already terrible), they should buff the Penetration. That tank can't pen a fkn medium tank half the time.
Looking for E100 buff of turret. I have around 93% moe and sometimes you have just these rounds where the progress gets destroyed heavily, due to inconsistent armor even with good angles.
They could have nerfed the 60tp's firepower but they could have given a slight pen buff, jeez. It does have one of the lowest HEAT pen for t10 in the game. Like its bad...
They're SUCH minor changes to it, stop crying jfc this community is so AIDS (60TP is My favorite tier 10, and i think it's 100% the strongest tier 10 tech tree heavy atm) so idc about tiny tweaks, we likely won't notice it, keep playing
Interesting set of buffs and nerfs, good to see they took some attention to look at stock grinds! And the 60TP will now never enter my garage anymore, I already had the absolute worst time with trying to hit anything with some sense of reliability... now they increased the RNG-factor again... NO WG! No rng dabbling! BAD WG!
19:56-> It must be the HULL armor buff, frontal upper plate is just 120mm thick now. If they gave it 165mm it would be pretty nice. The turret already has 300 mm max thickness frontally.
If I were to make the Type 5 line more interesting here's my idea (feel free to agree or disagree) O-HO: Gets a new derp gun with better soft stats and a higher caliber let's say 154.9mm AP/HEAT/HE: Damage: 720/720/990 Penetration: 190/228/115mm Accuracy: 0.48 Turret traverse: 0.12 Reload: 18.7 seconds Top speed 28 (km/h) Reverse speed 15 (km/h) Type 4 Heavy: 14cm (139.7mm) gun Buff: Gold AP: 302mm HE: 104mm Accuracy: 0.36 Turret traverse: 0.14 Reload: 17.3 seconds 15cm (152.4mm) Buffs: Penetration: HE/GOLD/AP 108/200/260mm Accuracy: 0.43 Turret traverse: 0.18 Top speed 28 (km/h) Reverse speed 14 (km/h) HP:2150 Type 5 Heavy: Buffs: 14cm (139.7mm) gun Buff: Gold AP: 302mm HE: 104mm Accuracy: 0.34 Turret traverse: 0.10 Reload: 14.8 seconds 15cm (152.4mm) Buffs: Penetration: HE/GOLD/AP 132/211/273mm Accuracy: 0.42 Turret traverse: 0.16 Top speed 29 (km/h) Reverse speed 17 (km/h) HP: 2950 Man my brain hurts to think of an idea for these buffs .... ಠ_ಠ
If they wanted to nerf the 60tp that’s fine, but the gun handling was already annoying with the rng. Adding more dispersion is gonna make it unplayable lol
i was just looking at the type71 like yesterday, and thinking to myself "you really got obsolete quite quckly huh... slow.. not armored" then wg comes out kf the wood word with buffa for it. hope those elevate it a little. at least im interested on grinding the line now
Still, they aren't buffing the upper glacis, which is at the moment worse than the upper glacis of the tier 9. The turret being buffed was needed, so at least it will work as hulldown and finally we can see a big jump in the accuracy when using that mechanic as well as a DPM buff.
@@michaeljohnson2585 The tank is bad because it's just a huge meatball. A moving exp pinhata that can be farmed with HEAT rounds because it's super slow, big, flat armor...yeah. The penetration is bad too. I'm not surprised it wasn't buffed since it lost that monster 1400 alpha gun, that thing was the most toxic and ridiculous thing ever.
Agree with most of the changes but come on… the E 100 doesn’t need more turret armor. It’s already strong, it’s not supposed to be impenetrable. Also nerfing the accuracy of the 60TP is too much imo. That’ll just make it another case of annoying to play and play against like the 705A.
I would like to see on type 71 line the cooling mechanic to be more linear, basically you dont have to wait the whole timeout to get better gunhandling but maybe if you wait only 1s you get like.36, 2s .32 and soo on. Kinda similar to overheating mechanic we saw in overwhelming firepower event. Wouldn't get mad even if you get bigger gun dispersion for firing gun on reload for some while
Now the front hull plate of the type 71 goes from 190 effective to 260 effective. Massive difference. Basically immune to most standard rounds and if angled most rounds period.
Actually if these changes go through I might be grinding the Type 71 line next. Because in my opinion the tank won't be broken but it will be way more fun and you can be more like a support heavy tank just like the rino or 113
just be aware the hull is made of traditional japanese paper walls. The frontal middle-upper hull (the biggest plate in the front) is 200mm effective armor on even ground and 230 when using maximum gun depression. Even worse, the upper hull got a giant 150mm weak spot that is always visible even when hulldown. The sides are also super thin. It's a paper tank.
Players: fix MM, stop 0:15 games, improve RNG.... Wg: "lets nerf and buff some random tanks" Now they nerf one of best tanks that can fight Obj279e and Chief.. Making them even more OP with litle alternative in tech tree.. Not huge nerf but still..
Its the same 128 on the e-75 which means the ferdinand and jagdtiger 128 should be seeing the same buffs.. the 128 needs it.. that 246 pen is too low i have hard times oenning anything anymorr with all the new tabks.. and the 128 having such low penetration compared to everyone else
@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 Actually, the tds won't receive that buff, only the superheavies get the 530 alpha and pen buff, which is stupid, ngl. Even the Maus is getting more powercrept now because of these changes, because there's literally no reason to play Maus over the E-100 with 12.8 cm gun: getting turret armor buff, pen buff, 40 more alpha, more turret traverse speed, better dispersion...yeah.
@juanjodpr maus still has better overall armor than the e100 i dont get 6-8k blocked matchs in that like i do ny maus. But ny e100 wr is like 53%.. my maus is 47%.. Since coming back from not playing for 4 or 5 years. My WR on my ferdinand. Maus. Jagdtiger 8.8, and others has all dropped a lot. Not because im rusty.. but because all these new tanks are bs. Litterally every faction now has IS3/IS7 STYLE like tanks. Or m60 style like the 60tp. Those lower profile rounded.. flat like tanks. The kilana tank destroyer.. the xm57 for example.. those WAYYYYYY outclass ny ferdinand. Not only in damage done per shot.. but penetration.. and ARMOR. I can barely pen an xm57 or kilana but here i am in a hulking tower ferdinand.. and i cant do anything. I get spotted even in a bush max camo.. but they dont. I dont understand why all of germanys fake tds for example like the wt line.. are paper tanks.. yet the other factions are all insaine. Hell americans the E3 and E4 td.. were bs when thry csme out back when i quit. Now i feel the american line is even weak now compared to POLAND and others lol. Not only are germans outclassed now.. theyre all slow... i have to max boost my maus to 26kph.. to even hope to not get blown up as im moving to get to a fight.. or i get to a fight and half the team is dead already. Every german tank is slow as snails minus the mediums and lights.. Slow.. poor armor compared to new tanks now.. and the gun pens the least. and does the least dmg as well.. they have good rate of fire though
The 60tp doesn't need a nerf and isn't even a top winning tank by stats. But hey, WG doesn't care about anything but its elite tanks given to the top clans for free. Now the Type 71 and Y need some serious buffs as they are junk. The E75 needs left alone.
Man the biggest winner is the E 100 turret buff..... personally the tank is already powerful imo as you can always angle your turret even in the open and bounce pretty much any heavy tank but now its even crazier. Quite many APCR heavies are gonna be unable to pen you now as well.
ALL tier 7, and MOST of tier 8 deserves a significant buff. Or the tier X should be severely nerfed. Right now the tier X just massacres any lower tier like no else. Most tier 8s are just absolutely useless against tier X. Even hulldown tanks like Caernarvon can be penetrated right into the gun mantlet. And most golds are still not good enough to pen tier 10 tanks. Not even tier 6 against 8 is that bad. However why should I care. I won´t even play anymore. I´ve spent a year getting through all the Polish heavy crap line, only to now have my 60TP immediately nerfed. F off.
yeah but then tier 5 and 6 becomes even worse than it is. wg killed this game with greed. all the fun tanks are premiums. all the op tanks are premiums. all premium tanks do is sucking the fun out of the game. game is in unfixable condition, unless +-2 mm cease to exist. and why no permanent frontlines mode in 2024? the only fun game mode without stress and crap. wierd not to add it when all the maps are trash but I guess they would be forced to do something about that if they made frontlines permanent, because nobody would play the steaming pile of shit that is normal game mode.
You did not read it loud, but the changes for stock gun on Tiger II are beastly and even more important than stock turret buff. Once again I would consider using the stock gun over the top gun in this tank, 0.34 to 0.30 BASE dispersion buff makes it a beast in medium to long range engagements, something most heavies struggle with. Reload time decrease is also significant. I grinded this tank back when 8.8 cm did 240 damage and I enjoyed it more than 10.5 cm, my record battle in Tiger II was with 8.8 cm equipped.
im very happy to see these buffs, but for type 71 i think they missed a big problem being the upper plate being paper when going hull down cause they angled it very bad, just change it to be the same as type 68 and then type 71 is fine
German vehicle need some love on stabilization, is ridiculous how unstable is a gun in a so heavy vehicle like E100 or Mauss. Grille then is not need to tell.
If I am correct Tyszkiewicza 50tp is similar sounding to the words in German ' table-k-joke-e or a'. That is 'Tisch-k-witz-e' as those letters and words might be pronounced in German.
I like the 105 gun buffs on m3y. I play it with the biger gun anyway, as it trades better. Also it says better heat pen but if i remember the gold ammo is apcr.
dez on the wot sneak peek there was a box radar on the top of the new tank.. it is a 3 d attachment you can get it in the store bundles right its is listed as a radar
Let me guess, you must be the type of player that started playing 60tp when the op sconq/objv4 got nerfed (still good tanks) and now you are sad that your strong tank needs to be nerfed again? Those 60TP nerfs aren't that big honestly and that tank will still be decent, I can't really see any problems with them. Wot isn't meant to be a dopamine simulator and the game needs balanced tanks for the integrity and health of the game.
@michaeljohnson2585 wrong. I started to play 60TP when polish tech tree was added to the game. And I'm not sad, because it's video game. I just don't believe in WG doing something right.
@@PaleCaretaker Then tell me exactly what is Wargaming doing wrong in nerfing the 3rd best tier 10 tech tree heavy tank that is also the most popular while also giving it pretty small nerfs (-5% dpm +0.02 accuracy and -100hp) that won't destroy the tank?
Merry Christmas DezGamez and i love how they gived more to Type71 wich i really loved and he was my first HT what i got in game but with all of these new tanks i could do nothing so i stop playing with it
11:12 -> The top turret armor "buff" on the E75 is messed up: front 245 to 260 and side 120 to 140mm?? Right now it is already 280mm at the front and 160 on the sides with patches of 180mm. Pd: don't see the need in a 60TP nerf tbh, while E100 buff is very much welcome.
The E 75 is my favorite tank (3 marked it last week), and I don't understand the buffs (it's already a strong tank). It's a nice buff, but buffing the engine would have been much nicer =)
Only the base AP pen is getting a small buff, most sweats will be spamming the 311 APCR anyhow so its not gonna make that much of a difference. The E100 buff is more interesting, that thing might take over as the new clan war main tank now that the 60TP is getting its ass nerfed, glad 4 years ago me decided to grind it as my first tank.
Maybe a suggestion to do something for the British medium line. The Centurion AX grind is very painful, if you look at the object430 grind its a shame. But nice that they give the German heavies some love.
60tp needs it's reload time reduced not increased. 60tp is a nightmare waiting for the reload when every other tier 10 can fire twice for your 1 even now. E100 needs the lower glacias plate buffed along with the cheeks on the turret to remain competitive. Making the tier X M-V-Y have a -12 depression is going to require the Kranvagn to be reset back to it's original configuration before the nerf to remain fair otherwise this thing is going to dominate ridge lines like the Kran did. You will also have to un nerf the SConqs turret again to keep things fair.
Buff polish tier 8 and 9, nerf the 10,why. I grinded the hell out of them and now that I got this year the 60TP it gets nerfed. Man... The rest of the balance feels good, meaby too much for the E75 but still great changes.
The problem with the Type 71 will still be, even after the buff, the terrible upper frontal plate. As it currently stands, the upper frontal plate ( the plate that has the driver's vision port) has 40mm of armour and can be overmatched by most other heavies. Even if you cannot overmatch that horrendous plate, if you have any elevation on the type 71 you will pen like butter. The placement of that plate is the detriment of the type 71, as even when hull down, anyone with a >120mm gun will decimate the type 71.
All the changes seem fine. Only thing I would like to see for additional changes to those lines is a buff to the M-VI-Y, that tank is pure frustration to play. Oh, and the Type 71 needs a better front upper plate
I think the type 71 turret frontal armor buff is wrong. I think it was meant for the hull armor cause 120mm is on the hull atm and 300mm on the turret.
I have played tier 8 Yoh recently and I must say it is one of the best tech tree heavy tanks. If you play it with 90mm gun you have almost 3K dpm and 290 heat shells. I'm not sure if it is the step in the right direction to buff tier 8 Yoh.
Great. Literally any tank that people enjoy playing always gets a nerf. The 60TP doesn’t need a nerf at all. It’s perfectly balanced with weak spots for anyone who has studied its armor profile and offensively it’s balanced between capabilities and flaws.
Every damn time i get to a heavy tank it gets nerfed kran, s con, now 60tp but its not gonna hurt it much. I hope they buff some older tanks haven’t watch it all yet.
@@joaoguilherme9034 for me IS like the BEST tank xD like, not Broken, good mecanic, good armor if you actualy use It propertly, nice learning curve over all
I'm just considering that if its becoming effective it is the third or forth time that as soon i'll reach tier 10 it gets nerfed just a moment after i reach it. I leave to you guys my state of mind.
the changes to the 53TP is welcomed, recently unlocked it myself took a look at research options saw the 122 mm d-25t and was like why?? so many cons vs stock and 22k xp just for more alpha would have made grinding this tank even harder. I welcome all changes like this getting rid of garbage gun upgrades that are worse than stock.
im pretty sure where it says "Turret front armor : from **120 to 165 mm**" they meant to say front armor not torret, only the front armor is 120mm armor torret is 300, anyways if its the armor im glad they finaly buffed it a lil, cuz the front plate was worse than tier 8 and mostly tier 9. and yes i love the tank.
MVY top gun going up to 310 heat pen is nice but it’s needs 340 to pen a lot of the more heavily armored tanks reliably or even semi reliably for the most armored of them and I don’t understand why it wouldn’t have 340 pen from the start. Why would the E5 have 340 but the MVY only get 310?
They needed to do something about the 60TP but these are bad changes. I agree with you that making the gun more derpy will just make it frustrating to play, without addressing the difficulty of damaging the tank. I think they should have left the gun alone and either softened the lower front plate or the drivers compartment plate a little bit. Making the stock grinds better is definitely a positive move all round. No complaints there. Some of the stock grinds were ridiculous. They were so needlessly frustrating.
do you know even you have the most powerful gun in the game, you still have to aim at 60tp's turret hatch, turret ring, drivers hatch or lower plate from the front (exclude overmatching but only a few tanks have the gun to do so, not even E100's 15CM gun) meanwhile, the same gun would penetrate maus upper plate, entire front turret and of course lower plate, ie, 85% of a maus'' frontal surface area with 90%+ chance. now can you see how OP 60tp's armor is. no matter what gun i use, like grille's 0.2 accruacy gun even at 200 meters, i can fully aimed at a stationary 60tp's lower plate and RNG would send the round above and below the lower plate, and they auto bounce. there is no margin of error when you fight a 60TP. i play the E100, and every tank that has more than 310 heat pen will go straight through my face, and by surface area e100 turret's front weakspot is like the same size as the 60tp''s turret front, except the entire front is pen able by like everyone. if you can't pen the front? no worries, because WG has also added this top bar that goes along the entire width of the turret so everyone can pen the e100. and lets not even start with the lower plate, it is insane, even tier 8 and 7 can pen it front the front. and remeber, e100''s turret is huge, before you can see the enemy, the enemey can already see your turret cheeks and pen you, before you can see the enemy the enemy has penetrated you, killed your gunner and reversed back into cover. and you also get -400 by every shot arty takes at you. finally some adjustment, e100 finally gets a little bit of love and idoit proof tank is finally getting nerfed. i only play the e100, my win rate in e100 is around 55%, it requires so much effort to do well in this thing, relative to other tanks. it is like playing the grille 15 when you can play the E3 and just press W and win, its that kind of difference. even for myself, E100 and Maus are my favorite enemy, they are just free dmg to be farmed, you just spam gold at their face and there is nothing they can do. i can imagine people getting upset because 60tp is nerfed, but if they fail to farm WN8 in that thing, it really just means they are very bad players, it is like playing the game on easy mode, like playing the AE phase. i play my heart out in the grille 15 and i barely get 49% win rate. due to the nature of that tank i often get the highest damage and exp in my team but lose the game, because it has tier 5 level of armor and worst than arty turning dispersion (yes worst than arty, worst than obj261 and slightly better than gwe100 and t92, and track traverse is worst than both gwe100 and obj261), and it has worst than jagdtiger camo, worst than, ie no camo. i just play it to challenge myself.
I also like my M-III-Y so the buff will be welcome. Odd tank for me though - have 2-marked it and am around 90% MoE but only 45% win rate - it’s one of those tanks where MM says nope.
I don't know what their goal is with nerfing every good and competitive tank. What's next? TVP, 277, E5, Leo? Haven't heard any competent player whining about the 60tp being too powerful. While it was strong, it wasn't OP.
I love my e100 so I'm verry happy, but also scared. Hopefully it doesn't become the new 60tp. Id probably keep every buff except the turret thickness, might be to much.
Guys, read this for God's sake: 60TP IS BALANCED, WHAT MAKES IT GOOD STATICALLY ARE THE STUPID UNICUMS THAT PLAY IT NONSTOP, EVERY TANK THEY CONSIDER THE BEST AFTER A NERF THEY ARE GONNA PLAY IT, WG WILL THINK ITS OP AND NERF IT, STOP NERFING ANY TANK, STOO COMPLAINING ABOUT TANKS, IF YOU SEE A STUPID 35 BULLYING YOU CHECK HIS STAT, IF HE IS A PURPLE GUY DTATIDALLY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PLAYER, NOT THE TANK
@@M4D_CR4SHERsame with the rhinoceronte, excellent pen, 3 shot autoloader with 490 aloha that most of the time deals 520. Stupid HE pen and excellent gun handling olus unpenetrable turret and good anglled hull
On the E-75 128.. WOULD THIS BE FOR THE SAME 128 ON THE MAUS AND FERDINAND etc... the maus and ferdinand and the other tanks that use the 128 the 246 average pen is like the lowest in the game now for t10 guns.. and with all these stupid new tanks its making its very difficult to penetrate anything
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all of you, Legends! :)
What do you think about all of this? The focus on stock grind in those lines is pretty big, you like it?
Merry Xmas and a happy 2025 m8 from Strap_On_Gun
Buff is7 ap and apcr 260 and 318
they buffing hull armor of type 71 not turret, turret is 300mm and hull is 120 mm now
The buffs and nerfs seem pretty good have to see how they play out in the test servers before the release.
Merry Christmas to you and the family and may you have a safe holiday period, appreciate the content you put out for us your fans.
I think they must buff the Type 5 Heavy line
I think there's a mistake with the turret and hull being confused on the Type 71. The hull is 120. the turret is already 300mm. So they are buffing the hull from 120 to 165mm which will make a massive difference.
This update may make Type 71 less suffer especially when it got foward speed buff too (literally what i needed in it)
Yea that'll make a big difference. I'm in the minority of people who actually enjoy playing it already, but it suffers badly because of that hull armor. Now 165mm with that slope might actually be able to bounce some tier 10 AP shells when you're using your gun depression
Yeah they made a typo for sure, it has to be the hull armor. AND because of this new buff, you may actually be able to bounce some stuff off your hull if you overpeek!
@@hell-bentfpv it's currently 200mm effective armor on flat ground. +37,5% thickness equals about 275mm effective armor on even ground and 300 when using max gun depression, give or take.
Edit: source is tanks gg vs its own AP, so it should be better vs APCR and HEAT.
Shame they are not planning to give it more alpha, 390 is a joke really..
There's a mistake in the E-75 notes, the turret armor buffs are for the stock turret and not the top turret. Top turret already has 280mm front and 160mm cheeks.
Pen buff is nice but it's already a very good tank.
nerf that shits lower plate PLEASE, most tier 8 heavies struggle to pen it even with gold, 235 mm armor with AP if you hit it flat frontaly and as soon as there is some angle you cant pen it with the tanks that have 250 gold pen which is alot nowadays
@@ChiliChicken That's what you call progress! You're supposed to unlock the next best tank so that you're on a par and can tackle Tier 9 tanks! Otherwise, what would be the point of the game if you didn't have this progress?
Maybe you should also learn how to outplay other players and flank them!
@@theVlKlNGRbro i have a unicum winrate, but the issue still stands because wg are turning every map into 3 corridors with no flanks so what are you gonna do when you cant pen a tanks only real frontal weakspot in a corridor where you cant go around them, and progress doesnt even matter when 70% of the tier 8-9mm is premium tanks that cant progress.
@@ChiliChicken too much complaining for a "unicum"! XD
@@ChiliChicken thats why heavy gameplay suxx 😂🎉
still crying in my type 5h
Dont worry, maybe one day our glass canon heavy will be buffed 😔
I find I still bounce a lot of shots with mine, it was just the HE nerfs that killed it, I have so many 0 damage hits, just yesterday I hit an EBR in the face for 0 damage, the derp made the tank, with the standard gun your better off playing other tanks.
Honestly make it have 400 MM frontally with the weakspots being like 200 and maybe it will be playable
Gold pen needs to be higher than 290 mm.
What kills the Type 5h is the lack of slope armor.
All the good heavies have slope armor that they can angle for more durability.
Its funny to think they always nerf popular tanks while the unplayable tank is being untouched(Japanese HT)
Because Type 5 isn't used in Onslaught unless you are a masochist. The nerf on S. Conqueror was obvious because it became meta for Ranked like Kranvagn was and now the nerf goes to the 60TP which was always strong but overshadowed by stronger competitors that have been bonked already. If the Yoh tier X gets overbuffed with this buff I smell a nerf for summer, it's EXACTLY the same situation as in the AMX M4 54.
Game modes I never play seem to cause nerfs ln tanks I am grinding for.
So many examples of total crap tanks, some mentioned in these comments, are neglected.
They NEED to buff ALL stock guns on all tanks. It sucks being in a heavy and only being able to pen tanks in the side or rear
Plus it's fun to have multiple gun options on tanks. Imagine if AT-7 6-pdr autoloader got a pen buff. I would like a reload buff and maybe gun depression buff on the 122mm on the KV-85 so that it's viable. Right now it has the lowest DPM of all tier VI non-autoloader non-SPG tanks, and the worst gun depression.
they are working on it. they just are REALLY slow at it
@mryancharcoal man if I worked there I'd be changing like 100 tanks a day, just swapping some numbers in a file can't be that hard
@@danimal865 you would think lol
Here is the issue I have with these buffs especially with Tier VIII. It really sucks for Tier VII and VI in match making. They need to stop +2, -2 with Tier VII and lower. Tier VIII and higher are to OP for lower tiers in the current META.
But at that point, all that's left is tier 8, since tier 9 has +1 MM, and tier 10 has +0 MM, so you might as well just make em all +1 MM maximum! 🎉
@@FunkyBananaBearThey should make it where Tier VII and lower never meet Tier VIII or higher and Tier VIII, IX and X face each other. Tier VIII, IX and X are competitive for each other but Tier VII and lower are at an extremely huge disadvantage facing those higher tiers..
Did the 60TP need a nerf ? i dont think so.
They seem to be nerfing tanks based on the popularity.
This is 100% how you make players quit your game : destroy their favourite toy
60tp was by far the strongest ht in game
100% True !!!
@AstrumDeus I disagree with that. It is a good tier 10 heavy but far from the strongest. I'd argue to say tanks like T110E5, S.Conq and IS-7 are much more annoying to play against. I've never had trouble playing against 60tp's and it never felt OP playing it myself.
@AstrumDeus no it isnt strongest xd, but its good tank bcs it have a lot of HP and amor if you are standing in front of 50years old grandpa that dont know how to aim.
@tibor2844 Compare it to e100, then you can see how strong it is. It's a good thing it got a nerf, it had an unnecessary health point pool.
As soon as i get the 60tp, it get announced that its being nerfed. Man i dont care about the dpm but leave the accuracy alone!!!! I legitimately couldnt care less about the dpm, but the already derpy gun getting even less accurate is gonna drive me crazy. Like come on wargaming, the 60tp is very easy to counter if you know what youre doing, why is it getting nerfed like that????
Why play a derpy tank if you dislike derpy guns?
Meanwhile the VK 45.02B hasn't getting a buff in a very long time: *sniffs*
My Absolutely Favorite Tank and it gets no Love😢
It's already extremely strong. You just need to get better at the game
@@GewelReal Its a pile of shit. An absolute joke compared to the E75 and many other heavies of that tier. Id say some tier 8 prem tanks are even better than that thing, and I say that as 2500 wn8 player, so I am not shit at the game or so. Its just outdated, because we have hull down meta and quick games, while this tank is a slow sidescraper.
I'm grinding it right now. I like it a bit, but it's not competitive enough.
@ once you get the top Modules it gets way better
THANKS !! Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!
Honestly I hope all of the buffs go thru! would be a great Christmas present. The E-100 is a giant Barn that people just stop what they are doing and shot at it. lol.
Tbh I never liked my 60tp; the gun doesn’t hit, ammo rack blows up, engine is like a torch, and somehow WG decides to nerf it…😅Guess I won’t play 60tp anymore.
Same here.
Me too, the biggest problem for me is I can never penetrate. Probably a skill issue but I hate playing this tank
It's one of the best tier 10 heavies. It NEEDS a nerf
Dude take safe stowage and improve the accuracy maybe? Not a a difficult solution.
i penetrate more shots on fv than 60tp i guess i can sell it to buy more fv shots
So they announce buffs and nerfs but refuse to buff the Type 5 Heavy, rip Type 5 you will be missed
the whole line will be buffed in spring
They've been working on it for a while, it's already gone through 2 internal balance change tests. They're taking more time on it because they want to rework it.
T-34-2 says hang in there, I was in the wilderness for so many years...
They are working on it, they have went through multiple revisions. They are trying to make it not just another E100 or Maus
@@T51B1 im not entirely sure what another E100 or Maus is, it's supposed to be a breakthrough heavy tank i think
The accuracy nerf isn't needed for the 60tp. I can understand the reload and the hitpoint pool but this thing is already derpy enough.
I'd say my 60TP has one of the most reliable tier 10 guns i own. The E4 is so similar to it, but the 60TP's is simply a lot better imo
The only problem with e75 top configuration buffs is that they will nerf it massively afterwards when they realize they shouldnt have buffed it
Ehh, the buff only applies to stock turret and engine though? Only the pen is going up by 9mm and honestly, about damn time. 246 pen at tier 9 is tragic for a heavy.
Wow e75s will flood the servers if this will reach the main servers. As if it's not yet strong enough
They're only buffing the top gun with like 9mm of pen on the AP shells, there is a mistake in the video where he puts the armour buffs from the stock turret on the top turret. Top configuration E75 will only get a small AP pen buff.
E75 is strong, but the stupid side-skirt armour is over matched every single time, they should buff the plate under the track by like 5mm and it's fixed. Thing can't sidescrape anymore
@@greyhunter5304 thats not true bro, yesterday was all day long sidescraping and many bounces
@@ImJustAKwimpOfficialapparently it will get a 100hp engine power buff also
@niklas5855 The E75 need his old 1200 HP Engine and its good.
Is the turret armour being buffed or the hull armour being buffed on the Type 71, since the current frontal hull armour is 120mm and the turret frontal armor is 300mm? @21:03 I can see that there must be a mistake on where the buff will be. It says that the turret front will be buff from 120mm to 165mm; it doesn't seem to add up. Tell me if I am wrong...
Merry Christmas and Happy new years dez
A lot of people say that 60tp is already balanced. It has quite a few weak points, derpy gun, weak ammo rack and average pen. Why nerf it? Because it's popular?
Many weak armor spots actually
If they are going to nerf the 60TP that hard in DPM and Accuracy (Which is already terrible), they should buff the Penetration. That tank can't pen a fkn medium tank half the time.
Looking for E100 buff of turret.
I have around 93% moe and sometimes you have just these rounds where the progress gets destroyed heavily, due to inconsistent armor even with good angles.
it’s 3am for me. not sure why i am up
Go to sleep! :D
@@DezGamez buy boxes 160
_sleep is for the weak_
Go get a job
They could have nerfed the 60tp's firepower but they could have given a slight pen buff, jeez. It does have one of the lowest HEAT pen for t10 in the game. Like its bad...
Who have trouble with 60tp its easy to deal with him .
This game will countinue loose their good players
They're SUCH minor changes to it, stop crying jfc this community is so AIDS (60TP is My favorite tier 10, and i think it's 100% the strongest tier 10 tech tree heavy atm) so idc about tiny tweaks, we likely won't notice it, keep playing
Interesting set of buffs and nerfs, good to see they took some attention to look at stock grinds!
And the 60TP will now never enter my garage anymore, I already had the absolute worst time with trying to hit anything with some sense of reliability... now they increased the RNG-factor again... NO WG! No rng dabbling! BAD WG!
19:56-> It must be the HULL armor buff, frontal upper plate is just 120mm thick now. If they gave it 165mm it would be pretty nice.
The turret already has 300 mm max thickness frontally.
hey @DezGamez
wg made a typo here for the type71, its not the turret front that is getting buffed
its the upperplate
If I were to make the Type 5 line more interesting here's my idea (feel free to agree or disagree)
O-HO:
Gets a new derp gun with better soft stats and a higher caliber let's say 154.9mm
AP/HEAT/HE:
Damage: 720/720/990
Penetration: 190/228/115mm
Accuracy: 0.48
Turret traverse: 0.12
Reload: 18.7 seconds
Top speed 28 (km/h)
Reverse speed 15 (km/h)
Type 4 Heavy:
14cm (139.7mm) gun
Buff:
Gold AP: 302mm
HE: 104mm
Accuracy: 0.36
Turret traverse: 0.14
Reload: 17.3 seconds
15cm (152.4mm)
Buffs:
Penetration: HE/GOLD/AP
108/200/260mm
Accuracy: 0.43
Turret traverse: 0.18
Top speed 28 (km/h)
Reverse speed 14 (km/h)
HP:2150
Type 5 Heavy:
Buffs:
14cm (139.7mm) gun
Buff:
Gold AP: 302mm
HE: 104mm
Accuracy: 0.34
Turret traverse: 0.10
Reload: 14.8 seconds
15cm (152.4mm)
Buffs:
Penetration: HE/GOLD/AP
132/211/273mm
Accuracy: 0.42
Turret traverse: 0.16
Top speed 29 (km/h)
Reverse speed 17 (km/h)
HP: 2950
Man my brain hurts to think of an idea for these buffs .... ಠ_ಠ
I Like It.
That's why community has no say on the balance changes lmao
Pen of type 5 heavy is normal, i would like to buff the armor
Merry Christmas mate have a good one 🎅
Wartgaming showed the IS-3 getting updated/upgraded like 2 years ago...where's that at?!?!?!
If they wanted to nerf the 60tp that’s fine, but the gun handling was already annoying with the rng. Adding more dispersion is gonna make it unplayable lol
i was just looking at the type71 like yesterday, and thinking to myself "you really got obsolete quite quckly huh... slow.. not armored"
then wg comes out kf the wood word with buffa for it. hope those elevate it a little. at least im interested on grinding the line now
Still, they aren't buffing the upper glacis, which is at the moment worse than the upper glacis of the tier 9. The turret being buffed was needed, so at least it will work as hulldown and finally we can see a big jump in the accuracy when using that mechanic as well as a DPM buff.
Yeah, I stopped some time ago after the T8, but now starting my grind at the T9😅
Merry Christmas to you too dez and thank you for the awesome Entertainment you provide
So E100 as good as it is gets a buff, but the underperfoming Type 5h is getting nothing (not even mentioning O-Ho and Type4)??? WG what
Only O-Ho needs a buff (and Type 4) Type 5 is just criminally underrated (I have 300+ games on it)
@@michaeljohnson2585 Yeah very op the type 5 that penetrates you frontally with gold ammunition until tier 8 xdxd
@@eo6623 Just because the pen is bad doesn't mean the whole tank is bad.
@@michaeljohnson2585 armor is bad too lol
@@michaeljohnson2585 The tank is bad because it's just a huge meatball. A moving exp pinhata that can be farmed with HEAT rounds because it's super slow, big, flat armor...yeah. The penetration is bad too. I'm not surprised it wasn't buffed since it lost that monster 1400 alpha gun, that thing was the most toxic and ridiculous thing ever.
Agree with most of the changes but come on… the E 100 doesn’t need more turret armor. It’s already strong, it’s not supposed to be impenetrable. Also nerfing the accuracy of the 60TP is too much imo. That’ll just make it another case of annoying to play and play against like the 705A.
I would like to see on type 71 line the cooling mechanic to be more linear, basically you dont have to wait the whole timeout to get better gunhandling but maybe if you wait only 1s you get like.36, 2s .32 and soo on. Kinda similar to overheating mechanic we saw in overwhelming firepower event. Wouldn't get mad even if you get bigger gun dispersion for firing gun on reload for some while
Yesterday i finally researched and bought 60TP after half a year and its getting nerfer. Nice...
Now the front hull plate of the type 71 goes from 190 effective to 260 effective. Massive difference. Basically immune to most standard rounds and if angled most rounds period.
Actually if these changes go through I might be grinding the Type 71 line next. Because in my opinion the tank won't be broken but it will be way more fun and you can be more like a support heavy tank just like the rino or 113
just be aware the hull is made of traditional japanese paper walls. The frontal middle-upper hull (the biggest plate in the front) is 200mm effective armor on even ground and 230 when using maximum gun depression. Even worse, the upper hull got a giant 150mm weak spot that is always visible even when hulldown. The sides are also super thin. It's a paper tank.
Players: fix MM, stop 0:15 games, improve RNG....
Wg: "lets nerf and buff some random tanks"
Now they nerf one of best tanks that can fight Obj279e and Chief..
Making them even more OP with litle alternative in tech tree..
Not huge nerf but still..
For the E100 it looks to be the 128mm thats getting buffed since it has 0.39 accuracy going down to 0.37 while the 150mm has 0.4 accuracy.
Its the same 128 on the e-75 which means the ferdinand and jagdtiger 128 should be seeing the same buffs.. the 128 needs it.. that 246 pen is too low i have hard times oenning anything anymorr with all the new tabks.. and the 128 having such low penetration compared to everyone else
@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 Actually, the tds won't receive that buff, only the superheavies get the 530 alpha and pen buff, which is stupid, ngl. Even the Maus is getting more powercrept now because of these changes, because there's literally no reason to play Maus over the E-100 with 12.8 cm gun: getting turret armor buff, pen buff, 40 more alpha, more turret traverse speed, better dispersion...yeah.
@juanjodpr maus still has better overall armor than the e100 i dont get 6-8k blocked matchs in that like i do ny maus.
But ny e100 wr is like 53%.. my maus is 47%.. Since coming back from not playing for 4 or 5 years. My WR on my ferdinand. Maus. Jagdtiger 8.8, and others has all dropped a lot.
Not because im rusty.. but because all these new tanks are bs.
Litterally every faction now has IS3/IS7 STYLE like tanks. Or m60 style like the 60tp. Those lower profile rounded.. flat like tanks.
The kilana tank destroyer.. the xm57 for example.. those WAYYYYYY outclass ny ferdinand. Not only in damage done per shot.. but penetration.. and ARMOR.
I can barely pen an xm57 or kilana but here i am in a hulking tower ferdinand.. and i cant do anything.
I get spotted even in a bush max camo.. but they dont.
I dont understand why all of germanys fake tds for example like the wt line.. are paper tanks.. yet the other factions are all insaine.
Hell americans the E3 and E4 td.. were bs when thry csme out back when i quit. Now i feel the american line is even weak now compared to POLAND and others lol.
Not only are germans outclassed now.. theyre all slow... i have to max boost my maus to 26kph.. to even hope to not get blown up as im moving to get to a fight.. or i get to a fight and half the team is dead already. Every german tank is slow as snails minus the mediums and lights..
Slow.. poor armor compared to new tanks now.. and the gun pens the least. and does the least dmg as well.. they have good rate of fire though
Merry Christmas Dez
Nice to make Grind a little better on some takns. Sad only that Tier9 VK4502B is not included as well, when PZ7 line was buffed it was left out too
The 60tp doesn't need a nerf and isn't even a top winning tank by stats. But hey, WG doesn't care about anything but its elite tanks given to the top clans for free. Now the Type 71 and Y need some serious buffs as they are junk. The E75 needs left alone.
Merry Dezmas!
Man the biggest winner is the E 100 turret buff..... personally the tank is already powerful imo as you can always angle your turret even in the open and bounce pretty much any heavy tank but now its even crazier. Quite many APCR heavies are gonna be unable to pen you now as well.
ALL tier 7, and MOST of tier 8 deserves a significant buff. Or the tier X should be severely nerfed. Right now the tier X just massacres any lower tier like no else. Most tier 8s are just absolutely useless against tier X. Even hulldown tanks like Caernarvon can be penetrated right into the gun mantlet. And most golds are still not good enough to pen tier 10 tanks. Not even tier 6 against 8 is that bad.
However why should I care. I won´t even play anymore. I´ve spent a year getting through all the Polish heavy crap line, only to now have my 60TP immediately nerfed. F off.
yeah but then tier 5 and 6 becomes even worse than it is. wg killed this game with greed. all the fun tanks are premiums. all the op tanks are premiums. all premium tanks do is sucking the fun out of the game. game is in unfixable condition, unless +-2 mm cease to exist.
and why no permanent frontlines mode in 2024? the only fun game mode without stress and crap. wierd not to add it when all the maps are trash but I guess they would be forced to do something about that if they made frontlines permanent, because nobody would play the steaming pile of shit that is normal game mode.
You did not read it loud, but the changes for stock gun on Tiger II are beastly and even more important than stock turret buff. Once again I would consider using the stock gun over the top gun in this tank, 0.34 to 0.30 BASE dispersion buff makes it a beast in medium to long range engagements, something most heavies struggle with. Reload time decrease is also significant. I grinded this tank back when 8.8 cm did 240 damage and I enjoyed it more than 10.5 cm, my record battle in Tiger II was with 8.8 cm equipped.
Nice drugs you are using
have a happy holiday and thank you for the many video you put your hard work in to
im very happy to see these buffs, but for type 71 i think they missed a big problem being the upper plate being paper when going hull down cause they angled it very bad, just change it to be the same as type 68 and then type 71 is fine
German vehicle need some love on stabilization, is ridiculous how unstable is a gun in a so heavy vehicle like E100 or Mauss. Grille then is not need to tell.
You read Markowskiego very well
If I am correct Tyszkiewicza 50tp is similar sounding to the words in German ' table-k-joke-e or a'. That is 'Tisch-k-witz-e' as those letters and words might be pronounced in German.
I like the 105 gun buffs on m3y. I play it with the biger gun anyway, as it trades better. Also it says better heat pen but if i remember the gold ammo is apcr.
dez on the wot sneak peek there was a box radar on the top of the new tank.. it is a 3 d attachment you can get it in the store bundles right its is listed as a radar
Goodbye 60TP. You will be missed. WG is shit at balancing tanks so they'll nerf it to the ground
Let me guess, you must be the type of player that started playing 60tp when the op sconq/objv4 got nerfed (still good tanks) and now you are sad that your strong tank needs to be nerfed again? Those 60TP nerfs aren't that big honestly and that tank will still be decent, I can't really see any problems with them.
Wot isn't meant to be a dopamine simulator and the game needs balanced tanks for the integrity and health of the game.
@michaeljohnson2585 wrong. I started to play 60TP when polish tech tree was added to the game. And I'm not sad, because it's video game. I just don't believe in WG doing something right.
what was wg ever good at? money laundering and milking mentally challanged people? game has been in a joke state for almost a decade
Yup, like poor old VZ.51
@@PaleCaretaker Then tell me exactly what is Wargaming doing wrong in nerfing the 3rd best tier 10 tech tree heavy tank that is also the most popular while also giving it pretty small nerfs (-5% dpm +0.02 accuracy and -100hp) that won't destroy the tank?
Merry Christmas DezGamez and i love how they gived more to Type71 wich i really loved and he was my first HT what i got in game but with all of these new tanks i could do nothing so i stop playing with it
Quite good changes. Happy Christmas
11:12 -> The top turret armor "buff" on the E75 is messed up: front 245 to 260 and side 120 to 140mm?? Right now it is already 280mm at the front and 160 on the sides with patches of 180mm.
Pd: don't see the need in a 60TP nerf tbh, while E100 buff is very much welcome.
Buffing E 75? Merry X-Mas to all owners of this tank. It is already "stronk tenk" and I wonder what it is that made WG buff it even more.
The E 75 is my favorite tank (3 marked it last week), and I don't understand the buffs (it's already a strong tank). It's a nice buff, but buffing the engine would have been much nicer =)
Only the base AP pen is getting a small buff, most sweats will be spamming the 311 APCR anyhow so its not gonna make that much of a difference. The E100 buff is more interesting, that thing might take over as the new clan war main tank now that the 60TP is getting its ass nerfed, glad 4 years ago me decided to grind it as my first tank.
@@crevette_farouche What is so hard about watching a video? Engine: buff from 700 to 800 hp.
@@martinmariasonneborn4480 Only the STOCK engine is getting buffed.
@crevette_farouche Are u telling me I flipped my tank😁? Merry X-Mas buddy.
still no buff for bz 176
WG don't care about the community, it's been a year already
Yeah they should increase it's top speed
why would bz 176 need a buff ??
It would rather need a nerf😂
@borderwlan underpowered
Yes, give me back my glory days of my first T10, E100 needs the love! 🎉
You know what else's massive? 19:38
Tiger II getting buffed is insane.. its alrdy such a great tank for the tier !
Maybe a suggestion to do something for the British medium line. The Centurion AX grind is very painful, if you look at the object430 grind its a shame. But nice that they give the German heavies some love.
Merry Xmas DezzieBoy!
60tp needs it's reload time reduced not increased. 60tp is a nightmare waiting for the reload when every other tier 10 can fire twice for your 1 even now. E100 needs the lower glacias plate buffed along with the cheeks on the turret to remain competitive. Making the tier X M-V-Y have a -12 depression is going to require the Kranvagn to be reset back to it's original configuration before the nerf to remain fair otherwise this thing is going to dominate ridge lines like the Kran did. You will also have to un nerf the SConqs turret again to keep things fair.
The 60TP is the tier 10 heavy with the highest damage per game, and you want to buff his DPM even further?
Buff polish tier 8 and 9, nerf the 10,why. I grinded the hell out of them and now that I got this year the 60TP it gets nerfed. Man...
The rest of the balance feels good, meaby too much for the E75 but still great changes.
Type 71 will still have the paper armour hull unfortunately, it will be better for sure, but I doubt it will see much long-term play.
60 TP doesnt deserve derpe gun nerf, just nerf dmg a bit.
650 Alpha more akin to 705A was all that would've done... If you had to touch 60TP.
I like all the changes but personality I dont think we need heavy tanks going faster
The problem with the Type 71 will still be, even after the buff, the terrible upper frontal plate. As it currently stands, the upper frontal plate ( the plate that has the driver's vision port) has 40mm of armour and can be overmatched by most other heavies. Even if you cannot overmatch that horrendous plate, if you have any elevation on the type 71 you will pen like butter. The placement of that plate is the detriment of the type 71, as even when hull down, anyone with a >120mm gun will decimate the type 71.
All the changes seem fine. Only thing I would like to see for additional changes to those lines is a buff to the M-VI-Y, that tank is pure frustration to play. Oh, and the Type 71 needs a better front upper plate
I think the type 71 turret frontal armor buff is wrong. I think it was meant for the hull armor cause 120mm is on the hull atm and 300mm on the turret.
Are TD's that use same 128mm as on e75 going to get same penetration buff?
Kek, the last think that was real about the tiger II is gone xd
It's so stupid what power creep does to a game.
I have played tier 8 Yoh recently and I must say it is one of the best tech tree heavy tanks. If you play it with 90mm gun you have almost 3K dpm and 290 heat shells. I'm not sure if it is the step in the right direction to buff tier 8 Yoh.
Great. Literally any tank that people enjoy playing always gets a nerf. The 60TP doesn’t need a nerf at all. It’s perfectly balanced with weak spots for anyone who has studied its armor profile and offensively it’s balanced between capabilities and flaws.
Merry Christmas whole Dez family! 🎉😊
Every damn time i get to a heavy tank it gets nerfed kran, s con, now 60tp but its not gonna hurt it much. I hope they buff some older tanks haven’t watch it all yet.
still waiting for a maus gun buff like e100 got it before.
Well, that happens when you research every Broken tier x xD, try something fun like rhino,It wont be nerfed
Does this work for tank destroyers as well? Please get the HoRi-3 if it does.
@@rorodridri1rinoceronte fun? That tank makes me panic, the gun is amazing but the rest... idk pretty ok ok
@@joaoguilherme9034 for me IS like the BEST tank xD like, not Broken, good mecanic, good armor if you actualy use It propertly, nice learning curve over all
I'm just considering that if its becoming effective it is the third or forth time that as soon i'll reach tier 10 it gets nerfed just a moment after i reach it. I leave to you guys my state of mind.
the changes to the 53TP is welcomed, recently unlocked it myself took a look at research options saw the 122 mm d-25t and was like why?? so many cons vs stock and 22k xp just for more alpha would have made grinding this tank even harder. I welcome all changes like this getting rid of garbage gun upgrades that are worse than stock.
ye,maybe hp and reload ok,but 60TP is specialist to shots somewhere to next dimension now,with worst gun imposibble something hit
Happy Holidays guys!
im pretty sure where it says "Turret front armor : from **120 to 165 mm**" they meant to say front armor not torret, only the front armor is 120mm armor torret is 300, anyways if its the armor im glad they finaly buffed it a lil, cuz the front plate was worse than tier 8 and mostly tier 9. and yes i love the tank.
MVY top gun going up to 310 heat pen is nice but it’s needs 340 to pen a lot of the more heavily armored tanks reliably or even semi reliably for the most armored of them and I don’t understand why it wouldn’t have 340 pen from the start. Why would the E5 have 340 but the MVY only get 310?
They needed to do something about the 60TP but these are bad changes. I agree with you that making the gun more derpy will just make it frustrating to play, without addressing the difficulty of damaging the tank. I think they should have left the gun alone and either softened the lower front plate or the drivers compartment plate a little bit.
Making the stock grinds better is definitely a positive move all round. No complaints there. Some of the stock grinds were ridiculous. They were so needlessly frustrating.
Nerfs, Buffs, Reworks, Weather Effects and Random Events just means rig. 14 years and cant get nothing right. Thats just sad.
do you know even you have the most powerful gun in the game, you still have to aim at 60tp's turret hatch, turret ring, drivers hatch or lower plate from the front (exclude overmatching but only a few tanks have the gun to do so, not even E100's 15CM gun)
meanwhile, the same gun would penetrate maus upper plate, entire front turret and of course lower plate, ie, 85% of a maus'' frontal surface area with 90%+ chance. now can you see how OP 60tp's armor is.
no matter what gun i use, like grille's 0.2 accruacy gun even at 200 meters, i can fully aimed at a stationary 60tp's lower plate and RNG would send the round above and below the lower plate, and they auto bounce. there is no margin of error when you fight a 60TP.
i play the E100, and every tank that has more than 310 heat pen will go straight through my face, and by surface area e100 turret's front weakspot is like the same size as the 60tp''s turret front, except the entire front is pen able by like everyone. if you can't pen the front? no worries, because WG has also added this top bar that goes along the entire width of the turret so everyone can pen the e100. and lets not even start with the lower plate, it is insane, even tier 8 and 7 can pen it front the front. and remeber, e100''s turret is huge, before you can see the enemy, the enemey can already see your turret cheeks and pen you, before you can see the enemy the enemy has penetrated you, killed your gunner and reversed back into cover. and you also get -400 by every shot arty takes at you.
finally some adjustment, e100 finally gets a little bit of love and idoit proof tank is finally getting nerfed.
i only play the e100, my win rate in e100 is around 55%, it requires so much effort to do well in this thing, relative to other tanks. it is like playing the grille 15 when you can play the E3 and just press W and win, its that kind of difference. even for myself, E100 and Maus are my favorite enemy, they are just free dmg to be farmed, you just spam gold at their face and there is nothing they can do.
i can imagine people getting upset because 60tp is nerfed, but if they fail to farm WN8 in that thing, it really just means they are very bad players, it is like playing the game on easy mode, like playing the AE phase. i play my heart out in the grille 15 and i barely get 49% win rate. due to the nature of that tank i often get the highest damage and exp in my team but lose the game, because it has tier 5 level of armor and worst than arty turning dispersion (yes worst than arty, worst than obj261 and slightly better than gwe100 and t92, and track traverse is worst than both gwe100 and obj261), and it has worst than jagdtiger camo, worst than, ie no camo. i just play it to challenge myself.
Don't thing the E100 needs more armor... if you know how to angle it's fine
I also like my M-III-Y so the buff will be welcome. Odd tank for me though - have 2-marked it and am around 90% MoE but only 45% win rate - it’s one of those tanks where MM says nope.
thanks for the video
merry xmas for you and your family
Being done like the french tier 10. Now you wont see it as much. What's going to contest an E100 now when it comes to trading?
well, E100 hot enough weaknesses still, so it being the best one to trafe shots with is deserved.
That E-75 Buff is crazy
Happy holidays
I don't know what their goal is with nerfing every good and competitive tank. What's next? TVP, 277, E5, Leo? Haven't heard any competent player whining about the 60tp being too powerful. While it was strong, it wasn't OP.
I love my e100 so I'm verry happy, but also scared. Hopefully it doesn't become the new 60tp. Id probably keep every buff except the turret thickness, might be to much.
some nice buffs to the german heavy line
Guys, read this for God's sake: 60TP IS BALANCED, WHAT MAKES IT GOOD STATICALLY ARE THE STUPID UNICUMS THAT PLAY IT NONSTOP, EVERY TANK THEY CONSIDER THE BEST AFTER A NERF THEY ARE GONNA PLAY IT, WG WILL THINK ITS OP AND NERF IT, STOP NERFING ANY TANK, STOO COMPLAINING ABOUT TANKS, IF YOU SEE A STUPID 35 BULLYING YOU CHECK HIS STAT, IF HE IS A PURPLE GUY DTATIDALLY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PLAYER, NOT THE TANK
60tp is too strong. It’s too fast, with good armour and ridiculous alpha
All tanks in tier X should be equally nerf
@@M4D_CR4SHERsame with the rhinoceronte, excellent pen, 3 shot autoloader with 490 aloha that most of the time deals 520. Stupid HE pen and excellent gun handling olus unpenetrable turret and good anglled hull
On the E-75 128.. WOULD THIS BE FOR THE SAME 128 ON THE MAUS AND FERDINAND etc... the maus and ferdinand and the other tanks that use the 128 the 246 average pen is like the lowest in the game now for t10 guns.. and with all these stupid new tanks its making its very difficult to penetrate anything