The Tragedies & Triumphs of Dungeons & Dragons

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  • Dungeons and Dragons, the most successful RPG of all time, has seen many tragedies and triumphs over it's long history, including being in the middle of the Satanic Panic in the 1980's, to now be part of pop culture and as popular as ever.
    From Gary Gygax and TSR through Mazes and Monsters and it's (sort of) use in such shows as Community and Stranger Things.
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  • @grozwald
    @grozwald 6 ปีที่แล้ว +478

    I remember one of my mom's church friends warned her that, by playing D&D, we were putting ourselves in danger. My mom's reaction was "The only thing those boys are in danger of is not getting a date." I love that woman.

    • @Billman66
      @Billman66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That is awesome and insightful! Truly a great mom.

    • @cardsfanboy
      @cardsfanboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yep.... love your mom for that comment.

    • @therealwild1
      @therealwild1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Your mom is awesome.

    • @WreckerR
      @WreckerR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ditto

    • @francescospuntarelli7369
      @francescospuntarelli7369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You were lucky... a lot of our gen was whipped and constricted to attend exorcisms attempts in (obviously) catholic churches

  • @SamuelAna4Ever
    @SamuelAna4Ever ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Some of my happiest memories. Sleepovers, all weekend sessions. Dice rolling and hots and hollers. The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat. Forged life long friendships.

  • @deanallenjones
    @deanallenjones 6 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    I started playing ADnD at school. It corupted me, however due to my dyslexic Dungeon Master my soul is owned eternally by Santa

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      The curse that keeps on cursing.

    • @theguy3851
      @theguy3851 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That bastard Santa is!

    • @lastcaress439
      @lastcaress439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cursed to make toys for the fat man for all eternity

    • @mrdude88
      @mrdude88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He's making his list; he’s checking it twice; making sure you end up on that naughty list.

  • @deadpoolshitlist8510
    @deadpoolshitlist8510 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    My high school actually banned AD+D for a few years, so we had to have secret games out on the cross-country track. Come to think of it, that may have made the games even better, as we were outdoors in the "wilderness" having grand adventures. Eventually, the school allowed AD+D again after the principal was fired for "getting a bit TOO close" with a student, and we could play inside - a boon in ice-bound Canuckistan winters...

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Banning D&D is such an archaic thing. Bad enough in 1980. Laughable in 2018. Absolutely ridiculous.

    • @cybercop0083
      @cybercop0083 ปีที่แล้ว

      Canuckistan…..!?
      You mean, this happened in Canada???

  • @CainLatrani
    @CainLatrani 6 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Thanks for this, guys. I've been playing D&D for 35 years now. Was given my first red box Basic Edition when I was ten, never started worshiping Satan, am not dead, and now, I'm a fantasy author in my own right, thanks to the influence of D&D.
    Okay, not a successful one, but let's not dwell on details, yeah?
    Probably shoulda made that deal with the Devil, now that I think about it.
    Missed opportunities.

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You had access to the devil that entire time and never got the real benefits.

    • @gh0s7sama
      @gh0s7sama 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Word! It cracks me up to this day that all of those VHS tapes and booklets parents ended up with back then talked about how we would be influenced by necromany and bestiality and anything they could name. I'm still pissed to this day that I never gained Necromantic powers because I rolled up a pen and paper game character, lol.

    • @JeffreyPiatt
      @JeffreyPiatt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      D&D Doom's spiritual predecessor.

  • @JoelCarroll
    @JoelCarroll 6 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I had the honor of working with Dave Arneson up until his unfortunate death. Dave was the designer that changed Chainmail into a game with singular characters, instead of controlling an entire unit or army. In a rather shit move, the name change to "Advanced" Dungeons & Dragons was simply to bump Dave out of royalties.
    Gary and Dave largely fought for years after, resulting in several settlements...they once were fairly close friends.
    Arneson held one of the longest campaigns in his Blackmoor setting, while Gygax had another campaign with friends set in Greyhawk.

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah we decided to leave out the behind the scenes stuff with respect to the ownership moves and stuff. Video would have been twice as long.

    • @JoelCarroll
      @JoelCarroll 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I understand...Gygax was the businessman...he'd worked REALLY hard to be the head of the thing, even when they ousted him for a bit in the 80's. I always try and mention Dave since so many don't or didn't know. Dave was the consummate gamer, and took huge enjoyment in the creation of games....heck, even his eventual sickness was a direct result of the lifestyle (that sounds like a joke...and kind of is...but it's true). I have all sorts of fun stories

    • @Jellyvibe
      @Jellyvibe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      The guy that co-created the game, who created the concept of role playing, who got royally screwed by his partner ala Stan Lee screwing Jack Kirby, *barely* even gets a name drop, but the satanic panic bullshit gets like 3 minutes of screen time. I'll say it again- Dave Arneson deserves better.

    • @jezeski2011
      @jezeski2011 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "Dave was the designer..." "Gygax was the businessman." That reminds me of something really funny a friend of mine told me. He was at one of those conventions where you could actually role-play with some of the 'creators' like Gygax. He told me, "he may have been 'the father of D&D,' but he can't play for shit. His characters kept getting killed because of the dumbest reasons. He just didn't have a clue."

    • @ripx187
      @ripx187 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He is regularly written out of the history, it is up to us to keep his legacy alive. I do agree, Dave's story is much more interesting than the over-done Satanic Panic.

  • @PhilVecchione
    @PhilVecchione 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I stared playing in 1982 and today I am game designer, publisher, podcaster, and blogger in the RPG industry. Great video!

  • @brennonr
    @brennonr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I wish I could send this video back to 1987 so young me could show my parents who took all my dnd stuff away to save my dirty dirty soul. I got back into it in 1995 and we had a campaign that lasted for five years. Such a great game.

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Super jealous. I think about how long our high school campaign could have lasted if we would have all stayed in the same town.

    • @rutherfordappraisal258
      @rutherfordappraisal258 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Toy Galaxy Time to get the band back together. My high school group has had a couple successful nights where we aged our characters from way back in '92 before we all graduated high school. It's a blast.

    • @spunkyspaz
      @spunkyspaz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My mother is super religious roman catholic and yet my parents actually BOUGHT me D&D stuff when I was young! (they got me my first book, the Monster Manual II) I guess they didn't know about the 'Satanic Panic'.

    • @Hromovlad1
      @Hromovlad1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are your parents still alive?

  • @MrDavidGove
    @MrDavidGove 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Nice video. I've been playing for 36 years. We watched the 60 Minutes special when I was a teen and my Mother (who was extremely religious) just dismissed the panic as people needing something to blame. She was happy I was using my imagination and not getting into drugs or antisocial behaviour. My school, on the other hand, politely killed our club. I've never been deterred in all this time and play it with kids and adults alike. So many great skills learnt in this game...

  • @darkhearsttoys5224
    @darkhearsttoys5224 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I remember getting the TMNT role playing game by Palladium. I was so young, I didn't understand what an RPG was exactly... so I read the book over and over but never played! It wasn't until a few years later when someone showed me how to play AD&D that I finally understood.

    • @CJ-rf9jm
      @CJ-rf9jm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had their Robotech n Mechanoids rpg's n loved those. In my later high school years robotech was the go to game for my group even more than D&D was.

    • @ffreed
      @ffreed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had a similar experience with Toon, the RPG system that mimics Looney Tunes cartoons. I didn’t understand the concept of a roleplaying game, so I just used it as reference to draw cartoon characters. Years later in college, I was shown how to play D&D (3e). I thought back on Toon, and I was like, “OH! That’s what that was!”

    • @bdo7765
      @bdo7765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CJ-rf9jm I had totally forgotten that Palladium did a Robotech RPG until I saw your comment. A quick Google search turned up several book covers that I recognized as having owned. I have no memory of playing it, but I do remember lots of TMNT and Heroes Unlimited, and a little bit of RIFTS and Ninjas & Superspies.

  • @Lurker1979
    @Lurker1979 6 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    My mom believed in the D&D fear mongering in the 80s and early 90s. Would not let me even look at the books. Frustrating to a young kid who loved the fantasy and scifi world.

    • @phoenixmight5971
      @phoenixmight5971 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      My mother was the same way. Eventually kids at my highschool put together a AD&D group and I joined. When my mother found out she lost her mind and told me to never go again. I didn't follow her advice and found out the game is not evil but only DM's are.

    • @441ld
      @441ld 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Same here. I bought a first edition set at a garage sale for $10 in 93 and she threw it out because it was "satan" . 24 years later she bought my nephew the full set of 5th edition books.
      Meanwhile I've been playing off and on since 1990

    • @funkyweapon1981
      @funkyweapon1981 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I definitely was and still am an evil DM!

    • @johnmiddleton4291
      @johnmiddleton4291 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same thing I couldn't play D&D or even read any of the books. My mom also wouldn't let me watch Rambo or buy the toys.But she let me watch The Thing, Alien, Aliens, etc no problem. And bought me Warhammer Fantasy Second Edition, then later Warhammer 40k Rogue Trader. Go figure.

    • @slimmosessixround
      @slimmosessixround 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a similar thing happen to me with my dad and xmen cards in the early 90s

  • @gh0s7sama
    @gh0s7sama 6 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I literally went through this. My friends parents owned a comic shop and we ordered all of the 2nd ed books and played. My parents had been buying into all of the hysteria and church info and held a fucking intervention for me. I ended up grabbing all of my books and throwing them on the couch and demanded they find Satan in any of the 2nd ed AD&D books, lol. They failed and I ran Dark Sun for a good decade.

    • @VictorHernandez-nj2lo
      @VictorHernandez-nj2lo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sue them

    • @BuggSmasher
      @BuggSmasher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow . . the editors edited out as many references to devils and demons as best they could in the 2nd edition.
      However, the Devils still in the details so to speak, on page 204 "Dust Devil" (Conjuration / Summoning). I guessed they missed that one from the Players Manual. LOL
      Just picking on the players manual because you most likely had that one.
      When I purchased Basic D&D in 1987 my friggen half witt - half sister (No she was Not a half-ling) attempted to convince my stern auntie I had purchased something I should Not have ! I had to explain it was just a game with some rolling dice, and my cousins backed me up. The challenge ended there with that small Christmas controversy, and I goto read my new manuals !

    • @marcusaurelius5149
      @marcusaurelius5149 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Satanic Panic of the 80's has been replaced with the Diversity Debacle of Today.
      The rampant anti-White cuckoldry of WotC is the new Satanic Panic. Except, instead of fighting against demons they're fighting against White people.

  • @TheYowaiskiFish
    @TheYowaiskiFish 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I’m 37 years old and just recently have finally been able to play some D & D . The great thing is my younger brother( by just five years ) is the dungeon master and we have somehow convinced our mom and dad to play. It’s very therapeutic . The first game we played my mom and brother saw that I was showing empathy for fictional NPCs in ways that I rarely do for real people. Great video you are one of those channels that I look forward to watching new content like well like opening a brand new toy. Peace

  • @Jellyvibe
    @Jellyvibe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    It's a shame to see Dave Arneson once again get the short end of the stick. He deserves better than what he's gotten over the years.

    • @douglasdea637
      @douglasdea637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree. From what I've read he actually did more to create the game and the concepts than Gygax did. Gygax just happened to be a better writer and had the time to do the writing.

    • @MichaelKerr71
      @MichaelKerr71 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      When I went to school learning computer programing. I had this teacher that had went to Full Sail University in Florida. One of his teachers was Dave Arneson that taught a game theory class there.

    • @redredkrovy
      @redredkrovy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree, Gygax created the base rules but it was Arneson that went on to create the role playing and advancement portion of the game. I equate it to Gygax being Jobs and Arneson being Wozniak.

  • @leorblumenthal5239
    @leorblumenthal5239 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    A very nice overview of the history of the game. I would have liked to see more credit given to Dave Arneson for his contributions to the game. Arneson was the one to make the leap from tactical miniatures combat to a dungeon run by a Game Master. You also elided why Wizards of the Coast acquired TSR: the corporate mismanagement of TSR after Gary Gygax was pushed out of the company. But overall an enjoyable introduction to the history of the game.

    • @bruceheard3841
      @bruceheard3841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed -- re. Arneson. As regards TSR's mismanagement, it did not not start after Gary's departure from TSR, but rather well before it. There were a few short years when it was in fact better managed after Gary's departure and that of the Blume brothers. Sadly, that did not last.

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Too much to cover. We only had time to hit the basics.

    • @bruceheard3841
      @bruceheard3841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, the Basics... by Dave Arneson. ;)

    • @user-bf8ud9vt5b
      @user-bf8ud9vt5b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SecretGalaxyTV The basics woulda started with Arneson's group, not Gygax.

  • @hyperiandn
    @hyperiandn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Discovering D&D (AD&D 2nd ed, specifically) when I was 12 was an amazing experience for me. I even managed to set up a small business selling D&D products and running games for a few years. 😊

  • @Outlawstar79
    @Outlawstar79 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    D&D ohh what a way to shape a childhood, it brought people together of like minded interests from day one. I live in such a rural part of TN and in the late 80's it was even played way out in the sticks. You would get a smattering of cousins and whatever friends you happened to not be kin to and play all night on Friday well into the A.M of Saturday just in time to watch cartoons...sigh how I miss those days of adventuring. We country boys put our own spin on some of the things and we had a lil "fort" in the woods where we played..even at times camping out to engross ourselves within the experience. Till All Are One!

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hard to remember sometimes what it was like before the internet. I'm happy that D&D has survived and is still played by people today.

  • @Jayk129
    @Jayk129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I own a tabletop gaming store and I love this video, it's currently on a permanent rotation on our Stores TV. I already loved the style and content of Toy Galaxy and am so glad that there is some content that relates to my store now too. I hope you do some other games as well in the future. Keep up the good work Dan

  • @DangerousFat
    @DangerousFat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Hasbro: "'Til all are one!"

    • @funkyweapon1981
      @funkyweapon1981 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Japanese origin of Transformers adds new meaning to that phrase. Also, "One shall stand, one shall fall!"
      YOU GOT THE TOUCH! YOU GOT THE POOOOOWEEEEER! YEAH!!!

    • @johnnyfountainS
      @johnnyfountainS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gi Joe is better.

    • @mordridprime7812
      @mordridprime7812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hail Hasbro

  • @augustussohn893
    @augustussohn893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I picked up the game in 1991. When I brought home the basic boxed set with the big red dragon on it, my mom was like "You can play that, but if I see any of that stupid stuff we hear on the news, it's gone!"
    Those were good times. Even seeing the "Advanced Dungeons and Dragons" red logo gives me all kinds of nostalgic feelings. Thanks to digital media, I have every book from the beginning up until 3rd edition, because the only drawback to collecting all the "necessary" books (like we all did) was actually having to lug them around. I was always the DM and that was part of the gig.
    Thanks for this video!

  • @phoule76
    @phoule76 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I'm still waiting for all those demons I conjured to show up.

    • @funkyweapon1981
      @funkyweapon1981 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes? Sorry I'm late.

    • @juanc1328
      @juanc1328 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You didn’t use the Rush mix tape. Vital ingredient in conjuring up demons.

    • @johnnyfountainS
      @johnnyfountainS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are no demons in the real world.

    • @Logan_Baron
      @Logan_Baron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chic tracs still claims that the books somehow allow you to cast the spells listed for real. While they acknowledge that they were wrong that it gave instructions on how to cast magic spells, they claim that simply saying "I cast fireball" allows you to cast a fireball for realz.

    • @texasbeast239
      @texasbeast239 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Logan_Baron - "I summon a doting supermodel nympho."
      Dammit! Shit doesn't work!

  • @user-yj3kn4fe7h
    @user-yj3kn4fe7h 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started playing in 1981 4 months before my 8th birthday. Been playing ever since. My group skipped 4th Ed. Sticking with 3.5 until 5th Ed was released.

    • @Billman66
      @Billman66 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      '81? Me too! Three of us (starting my freshman year in HS) playing just about continuously. Still playing today but we went from 3.5 to Pathfinder. Cheers!

    • @user-yj3kn4fe7h
      @user-yj3kn4fe7h 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Billman66 I love Pathfinder

  • @SuperGnarlyThings
    @SuperGnarlyThings 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's crazy how you posted this. My friends and I have been talking about playing D & D on our chat group for a week now. It's Friday, just printed out our character sheets and I'm leaving the office to happy hour to meet and start working on our characters. This really got me pumped. Thanks! Any tips would be much appreciated.

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Roll 20s. Don't roll 1s. That's all I've got.

    • @LoveProWrestling
      @LoveProWrestling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The old man wearing a robe in the corner of the inn is going to get you all in trouble.

  • @epochinfinitysedge5008
    @epochinfinitysedge5008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1974 I was 12. I was living in a small "conservative" midwestern town, about an hour or more away from Lake Geneva. Our history teacher taught us using Gettysberg historical war game, and also was involved with medieval miniature wargaming at the local college. We knew we were a different type, playing Chainmail and Dungeons and Dragons, as he'd "loaned" us his paperbacks. It was there two years later, I met Gary Gygax at a wargame convention held at the college. There's way too much to say here. So I'll just say, -Thanks for the video. You summed it all up fairly well.

  • @SkotNealey
    @SkotNealey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    D&D was the reason that I used to sacrifice squirrels on an altar and drink their blood from a thimble sized chalice. When I burned my D&D books I was freed from the curse of Tiamat.

  • @trainman666
    @trainman666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My oldest brother played D&D all the time and sometimes I would sit in on his sessons and listen, ask questionws, and even considered playing on a few occasions." It wasn't until 2020 during the Thanksgiving holiday that I finally decided to buckle down and start do some serious playing. So far our campaign has been going for a year and I do not regret a second.
    I play as a human female rogue who always wears a red outfit and an eyepatch (not because she's missing an eye, but because it's useful for changing quickly from bright areas to dark quickly) named Melissa the Red Rogue.

  • @CapedJoel
    @CapedJoel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Oh Toy Galaxy and Dungeons and Dragons 2 great tastes that tastes great together..

    • @kylekrahl5727
      @kylekrahl5727 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You got Toy Galaxy in my Dungeons & Dragons! No, you got Dungeons & Dragons in my Toy Galaxy!

  • @Cacti88
    @Cacti88 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have never played D&D but that 80's cartoon was what i looked forward to every Saturday.

    • @phoule76
      @phoule76 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tiamat!

    • @frog2992
      @frog2992 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Top Ten Endangered Species

  • @salvation7362
    @salvation7362 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A 14+ min episode of Toy Galaxy AND it's about D&D? You Sir have my complete and total attention. *Grabs some snacks and a drink*

  • @PozerAdultRacingTeam
    @PozerAdultRacingTeam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been playing D&D since 1992,but I was hooked by the cartoon,action figures,and the comic book advertisements.

  • @traxthetrashwizard
    @traxthetrashwizard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    HOT DAMN!!
    I've never seen that D&D commercial before! It gave me chills!
    Also, you're totally right about DMs having a thankless job! I volunteered to be the DM for my friends' D&D group. (I had no prior experience DMing) I had to go out and buy the Dungeon Masters rule book and grab an adventure module! I've been learning to DM while playing and in my spare time and have I had any thanks? No!
    But yeah, D&D is pretty fun.

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I want to be a good DM but I tend to lean more on storytelling and less on the rules, and you really gotta know the rules.

    • @chrisbarrett8377
      @chrisbarrett8377 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      DMing is the most fun, actually.

    • @bdo7765
      @bdo7765 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SecretGalaxyTV The White Wolf roleplaying system (Vampire the Masquerade, etc.) actually refers to the DM as the "Storyteller." They posit that it's more important to weave a good story (and have fun) than to slavishly follow the rules. I always took that as my philosophy in all the campaigns I ran over the years, although we DID go off the rails a couple times.

  • @timpagan71
    @timpagan71 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Dan,
    First we love your channel. I remember in the 80’s my cousin Jonathan was the dungeon master and we had creature turn to smoke and came under the door to the room our team was in during the game. Still remember how scared I was. Lol. Born in 1971, I Loved D&D and it’s been so long since I played. That scene in Stranger Things was like a mirror to my childhood. Thank you and keep up the great videos. All the Best.
    Thanks,
    Tim

  • @SteveSpikes
    @SteveSpikes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's my fondest memory of playing DUNGEONS & DRAGONS:
    In 7th and 8th grade, after school, a group of us would stay after school, and play D&D, with my Social Studies teacher, Mr. Spangler, as the Dungeon Master. We would use the chalk board for drawing the maps. Fun times. You may think this may be odd. I attended a Catholic school.
    I still have copies of the books from the Basic Set -- the "Red Box" (sans the box) today.

  • @simonhadley8829
    @simonhadley8829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I read The Dungeon Master back around 9th grade and it was an excellent book. One of the unmentioned tragedies of James Egbert's suicide is what he might have accomplished in life. He was a genius who had finished high school early and went to university at age 15 studying computers in the late 70's. Sadly, he was too young for that level of pressure and his overbearing parents drove him to suicide.

  • @benadrylthundercrotch7144
    @benadrylthundercrotch7144 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ADORE the retro commercials you put in these, please never stop.

  • @thedocklighter
    @thedocklighter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember seeing the white box of D&D in a hobby store, but my older brother & I were into Star Wars and picked up the black box of Traveller. It would be junior high before I picked up the Moldvay edition of D&D (& later Expert) before getting quickly into AD&D rules, running campaigns with friends after classes in empty classrooms while official extra-curricular activities were going on. It continued throughout high school & we became the core of the high school games club. No suicides or occult events occurred, no demons or devils summoned, no souls or minds corrupted. Monsters slain, hot princesses rescued, loot & magic items acquired, evil gods defied, fun had.
    I have always regretted selling that AD&D edition (though I still have the Moldvay box set, and subsequent AD&D editions, along with various Traveller sets).

  • @FrankMonday
    @FrankMonday 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff! My first intro to DND was in 1980 when I was only five. Some older kids were playing in the park and I got to roll some dice. Was playing well into the early 90’s where games had morphed into religiously honored 8-10 hour sessions on Saturdays with a clan of hessian that numbered from 6-10 at a time around my families oak table that could comfortably accommodate a small army! My mom would make lunch for us! She was an open minded gal and saw the fun and camaraderie that the game fostered and supported our endeavors full heartedly.

  • @lwpatch8585
    @lwpatch8585 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Started playing in the late 90s with my then girlfriend. Running games with my wife & kids today.

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's great. I love hearing about families playing together.

    • @Theomite
      @Theomite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait, there were *girls* playing D&D in the '90s? I don't remember such a thing.

  • @Geerladenlad
    @Geerladenlad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My brothers and I played Dungeons & Dragons first edition we had the basic set which included the module Keep on The Borderlands. We then moved on to the hardback books released in 1978. We got the Dungeon Masters Guide, The Players Hand Book and Monster Manual first then picked up subsequent books as they were released.

  • @TroyDraws
    @TroyDraws 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found this channel and been binging all night, as a 90's kid and geek, this is scratching an itch I didn't know I had

  • @Deu5MaK1nA
    @Deu5MaK1nA 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started playing in the mid-to-late 90s but then stopped. It wasn't until 2 years ago that I started playing again and I've been playing ever since. I've even started my own campaign.

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is exceptionally well done. Direct, to the point, you don't get bogged down into the minutia of "company politics" etc. Very nicely done. Consider this old-school AD&D/Original D&D grognard _subscribed_ !

    • @patrickhessman1349
      @patrickhessman1349 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The company politics is worth a series all its own.

    • @samringwald
      @samringwald 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's pretty crazy. It makes the Biggie/Tupac feud look like a much more serious feud.

    • @cardsfanboy
      @cardsfanboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patrickhessman1349 and if you are on facebook, it has a documentary that they are trying to produce. That deals with a lot of the company politics from before 1970.

  • @btetschner
    @btetschner ปีที่แล้ว

    It is impressive how consistently high quality these videos are! Even if I go back to a video released four years ago, it is very high quality too!

  • @lowellmartens6135
    @lowellmartens6135 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Played from about '88-'94. A friend's(who did not play) older brother was our DM, and was awesome. When he moved away our gaming ended. Thanks for the fun video.

  • @robertdanker6193
    @robertdanker6193 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Toy Galaxy lands another CRITICAL HIT on my heart with another fantastic video!!! A+++

  • @normanover
    @normanover 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been playing since1978. My little brothers introduced me and I was hooked. Now that I am retired I have more time to play.

  • @jinxtheunluckypony
    @jinxtheunluckypony 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m so glad the Satanic Panic is over, my cult can finally play AD&D in peace!

    • @kirk1701
      @kirk1701 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @johnnyfountainS
      @johnnyfountainS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no such thing as sTan.
      Hail Odin.
      Flying Spagetti Monster.

  • @bobsyouryouknowthething6751
    @bobsyouryouknowthething6751 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad, now 71, got into the original release in 74. I watched him play several times in the late 70s and started in 1981 with basic, then expert, then advanced and played into my mid 30's. I quit until 2016 with 5e and have been playing ever since, six games going as high as 11th and now running eight people through Dungeon of the Mad Mage. They have fast tracked to tenth character level and are accumulating properties (as they have conquered 1st to 6th level) below and in Waterdeep itself.

  • @SilverbladeDagger
    @SilverbladeDagger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to work for a comic shop for about 10 years. The owner, my boss, was at Michigan State University when Egbert got lost in the steam tunnels, and if I remember right, he was even a friend of and played D&D with Egbert. He used to tell me and my friend, that also worked for the comic shop, about all kinds of stories in the steam tunnels, and the various tabletop games he played when they first came out. Hell, we even had a lot of the real old modules and play books in the store, most of which were from my boss' personal stash. My boss also was friends with the curator of the largest collection of comics in the world at MSU, because in their college years, they played D&D. D&D helped make a lot of history, if not nationally, interpersonally and brought strange and interesting people together to form friendships that have lasted a long time.

  • @kforcer
    @kforcer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dallas Egbert was actually in my Dad's English class at MSU. I guess he was something of a child prodigy; he was still a teenager, maybe 15 or something, when started college. He was under tremendous pressure from his parents and I'm sure being a high school age kid thrust into college must have been extremely tough. Sad story.

  • @stop619
    @stop619 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Not one mention of THAC0?! Aww, cult.

    • @francescospuntarelli7369
      @francescospuntarelli7369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The best thing to mention 3rd edition over Advanced

    • @shadowcat3163
      @shadowcat3163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thaco, how modern, You are a old hand when your AC was in the Negatives.

    • @RichWhiteUM
      @RichWhiteUM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shadowcat3163 Damn straight!

  • @princelorian
    @princelorian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ive never played D&D but i love forgotten realms and ive read 2e,3.5e and 5e handbooks. Wish i had friends who would want to play 😣

  • @davidowen2923
    @davidowen2923 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    7:34 anybody else notice that Christianity and fun are mutually exclusive concepts

    • @colmhain
      @colmhain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pete Owen That's because its a death cult, where temporal comfort, pleasure, and joy are suppressed in order to appease a Jewish zombie with daddy issues in the hope that, when you finally die (uh-uh-uuhh, no suicide), his Daddy might grant you eternal life kissing His Ass.

  • @landoflitsch
    @landoflitsch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 1984 my sister purchased the blue starter set and became the Dungeon Master for all of my siblings and my Mother. Though my Mother only played to see if the game was evil or whatever (it wasn't). We only played once as a large family unit, but my elder brother and I were hooked and still play to this day. All but fourth edition.

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So great that your mom was involved even if it was just to check the thing out. It's the right thing for a parent to do.

  • @CEOdawg
    @CEOdawg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got into D&D late (3rd edition around 2003) and LOVED IT!! I genuinely miss playing with my cousin and a few of his buddies. It's what actually started me on the path to WoW.

  • @kravenbludd
    @kravenbludd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    D&D truly is the gift that keeps on giving. Some of my best memories take place around the gaming table (or squatting on the floor).

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If I could buy more time to play. Too many commitments.

    • @shadowcat3163
      @shadowcat3163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also have many friends from my gaming group I still am in contact with 40 years later.

  • @bluelionsage99
    @bluelionsage99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had that basic set. It was my group's entry to D&D. Bought it at the local toy store.

  • @jeremycathey326
    @jeremycathey326 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to thank Dan and the team. This episode was amazing and should be required watching for anyone who is skeptical about dungeons & dragons.

  • @mattkeflowers
    @mattkeflowers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've played D&D for close to 3 years, I knew of the "Satanic Panic" around the game, but had never heard about what spun that frenzy up until today.
    As always great work

  • @nickh5081
    @nickh5081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I got my edition of the Player's Handbook and the Basic set for Christmas, 1979 (same versions as in the video at 6:12 - 6:30). I went out with my older brother and we split the cost of the advanced version a few days later. I played until about 1985 but by then sports and girls had invaded my world too completely and I didn't have any friends left that played anyway (they had all either moved away, drifted away or stopped playing). To this day I still play historical war games whenever I see my brother (everything from ASL to Twilight Struggle), but D&D is just a fond memory.

  • @delta7a
    @delta7a 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I played d&d, marvel super heroes, robotech, and tmnt as a way to get off the streets

    • @g8kpr3000
      @g8kpr3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. We played so many different systems, we rarely upgraded characters. Marvel, D&D, Star Wars, Robotech, rifts, heroes unlimited, and that spy one that TSR did.

  • @shallendor
    @shallendor 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is great that you included a clip of Bill Allen and his Gaming with High School students in the video! The funny thing about Pat Pulling and the media is that all the Uproar just helped introduce D&D to people.

  • @freeculture
    @freeculture 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Japanese Anime: Record of Lodoss War. The first episode in the OVAs is a recreation of an actual D&D play session in Japan (they had audio tapes recorded). They tried with TSR to add the Lodoss world unsuccessfully. There is a total of three unrelated anime series in this world setting (no idea if there were also books), all of them are worth watching for D&D fans, they will instantly recognize and even feel identified in them :)
    Speaking of "Satanic panic", 2nd edition removed the Succubus, it was apparently restored in the 3rd edition.

  • @callsignenterprise6895
    @callsignenterprise6895 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got into DnD way back in 6th grade, circa '83, after one of my teachers recommended, to my mom, that I should play it to help become less shy. The last edition that I played was 3.5, but I still play many different RPG's to this day.

  • @ryansargent661
    @ryansargent661 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started playing D&D in the early 90s when one of my friend’s uncles invited us to a game. I was always a kid with a strong imagination so it was perfect for me. I’ve been playing whenever I can ever since. I’ve recently started teaching my nieces how to play, and they love it too.

  • @MattiaBulgarelli
    @MattiaBulgarelli 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got to love how in the first two minutes this video lists all the main issues more recent editions and other games try, and often succeeded, to fix.

  • @JustinDynamicD
    @JustinDynamicD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I own every 1st and 2nd ed book. Stopped playing but kept buying the books through the 3rd ed. One day my boys came home with these curious 5th ed books and I found myself DMing. I miss THAC0... but its still fun.

    • @bdo7765
      @bdo7765 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      THAC0 is gone?? I'm so old, lol.

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh, and I should mention: Gary's kids all had a hand in his part of D&D's history; his son Luke is the original organizer of GaryCon in Lake Geneva, a great little game convention.

    • @cammybaby01
      @cammybaby01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Furthering the point, many spells are named after the wizards who invented them (otiluke, bigsby, tenser, etc.) these were originally characters run in Gary's game. In particular, tenser is an anagram of Gary's son, Ernest.

  • @user-a5Bw9de
    @user-a5Bw9de ปีที่แล้ว +2

    More I understood D&D and the satanic panic, less I understood what the panic was all about.
    What especially baffling is that ScoobyDoo was originally aired when those parents were still kids.
    I mean, back in 1969, who wouldn't have role-played as a gang of ScoobyDoo if there were nothing else to do? Aren't ScoobyDoo villains pretty much an embodiment of devils?

  • @enterprisingcaptian875
    @enterprisingcaptian875 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    D&D, horror films and heavy metal...by some people's standards I should be a dead Devil worshipping cold blooded murderer! Ha,ha!

    • @Hotspur37
      @Hotspur37 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you and me both but alas I turned out to be a decent and respectable member of society

    • @LordRain1031
      @LordRain1031 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, a LOT of people were and probably are. Wish I had time to play D&D, haven't played in over 10 years 😕

    • @johnnyfountainS
      @johnnyfountainS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      sTan is for posers.
      Real men worship Odin.

    • @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
      @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤘

    • @neue01
      @neue01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I grew up skateboarding, reading comics, listening to heavy metal and punk rock and playing dungeons and dragons. Wouldn’t trade it for the world!!!

  • @douglasdea637
    @douglasdea637 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What people tend to forget is how unique D&D was. How utterly strange it was. Before it came out all games were either board games or, very rare, miniatures games. I grew up in the 70s and all I had were basics such as Monopoly, Clue, Sorry, Risk, Stratego, chess, The Generals, Stop Thief! Etc. Then my friends and I discovered "Role Playing" games. (First, I think, was Gamma World, then the red-box D&D.) Wow! What a huge change in ideas! Characters, story that continues, making choices and decisions, changing maps and scenarios. Imagine spending your entire childhood playing sports such as bowling, tennis, badminton, jogging... Then one day someone shows you team sports: baseball, basketball, football, hockey. You'd be blown away, your consciousness would expand overnight. That's how I felt when I discovered RPGs.

  • @ArkadiaRetrocade
    @ArkadiaRetrocade 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ages 12 and up, lol. We started playing at 7, 🤘🏼🤘🏼.Vividly remember when I got "the speech" about satanism, etc, got temp banned from playing. We picked right back up and kept playing on-the-sly until X months later when everybody's parents figured out we weren't for-real killing each other nor would we. So many years, so many campaigns, so many characters. Among the best hours I've spent with friends during my ~40 years on this mote of dust suspended in the cosmos. Somewhere out there in the vastiness of space, our worlds are still spinning too. Nice vid as always guys. Thanks✌🏽

  • @biggie0729
    @biggie0729 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been playing D&D since 1977. I absolutely love it and 5e has proven to be an easy game to get new people into! I owned a gaming store for awhile so I've played a ton of different RPG's over the years, but D&D is still my favorite - my first love.
    I have a question for Dan - Are you a player or a DM? I'm betting a DM!

  • @danhammond9066
    @danhammond9066 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    GG and I go way back to 1980 playing D&D and naval war miniatures at UW Parkside college on the gym floor during the early days of gen con. "Greybeard" (TM) has finally been put to rest, we had some great adventures together. I do miss him.

  • @PozerAdultRacingTeam
    @PozerAdultRacingTeam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got sucked in by the cartoon and a Strongheart figure for Christmas. I finally started playing D&D in late 1992.

  • @ericjam6346
    @ericjam6346 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your knowledge of the History of D&D was way more in depth and accurate than what I thought it would be. Fantastic job man!

  • @cloverdog85
    @cloverdog85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I teach middle school and I am wanting to build some classes off of D&D for LA. Students will learn to create and write stories on their characters. Saw it as a teaching conference a while ago.

  • @invaderjae
    @invaderjae 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been playing D&D for over 20 years. Started with second edition. I now play 5th edition with my kid who is now 15. I love playing. Don't care who thinks it's cool or not. Keep on rolling the D20's

  • @darthamrel3052
    @darthamrel3052 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man this took a serious turn but was pretty informative. Great job Dan!

  • @ChrisOsberg
    @ChrisOsberg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The humor and writing for these are great! Subscribed!

  • @mtyler3047
    @mtyler3047 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AWESOME! Two of my fandoms collide! haha, I played Warhammer, Star Wars and Superhero Tabletop RPGs back in the day and then 5th Edition got me into playing D&D two years ago and I haven't stopped. Soo much fun and the people that are playing this are awesome folks. Thanks for this video!
    (haha if you're on Roll20 man, let's play a campaign! :P)

  • @tomfisher6422
    @tomfisher6422 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first exposure was around 1983. It was a few years later that I actually got my hands on some of the books and started to learn the rules.

  • @danielcastellanos7249
    @danielcastellanos7249 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love D&D! I started playing a high school, and I still play

  • @craigmooreks60
    @craigmooreks60 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great video, I love D&D and have played since 1981. You sir have gained a subscriber.

  • @_thefatman_6100
    @_thefatman_6100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played a campaign once where my character was so broke and frustrated, he yelled at a rock. I rolled a d20 got a 20 and turned said rock into pure platinum. This is why I love DnD

  • @codekhalil6437
    @codekhalil6437 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need a full Dungeons and Dragons cartoon review on Toy Galaxy. You just glossed over it. It was amazing. Definitely do it justice Dan and co

    • @SecretGalaxyTV
      @SecretGalaxyTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/JMxXx8ne29E/w-d-xo.html

  • @seszw6159
    @seszw6159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, I loved me some D&D. Played from the early 80s until 1991. D&D was the reason my first year of college didn't go so well but I had a great time missing those classes. I still have a lot of the books and occasionally pull them off the shelf to reminisce about those far off fantasy lands.

  • @marksutter182
    @marksutter182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks to the Satanic Panic around D&D, I was 17 before I even knew it was literally a game. Sad, because I would have loved the game.

  • @tedhenkle
    @tedhenkle 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got into D&D sometime during my high school years. I remember playing the first module, In Search of the Unknown, and having our 1st Level party nearly getting wiped out by a pack of kobolds.

  • @hipzilla702
    @hipzilla702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't tell you how much joy these episodes bring me!

  • @Warghoul
    @Warghoul 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have played since 1980. Still have all of my books and modules. Will be introducing the game to my kids this year!

  • @LeatherRebel75
    @LeatherRebel75 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a kid, I watched the cartoon and had many of the action figures from the AD&D line, which were all amazing. Around '89 or so, I played 2nd Ed. with some friends during the summer. Around 2002, I dabbled in 3E, but we couldn't all coordinate play sessions, so our campaign didn't last beyond a few sessions. Currently, I'm playing 5E with a new group pretty regularly and having a blast.

  • @Robalini1
    @Robalini1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a little note on this: in the 90s when I lived in West L.A., I had a pal who worked at a Real Estate company on Sepulveda Boulevard in Westwood Village. I visited him there a few times, and it turns out, in the same building was the L.A. office for TSR. Sadly, nobody ever seemed to be inside it when I would visit, but it would've been great if luck was right one of those times...

  • @DarcyPerry
    @DarcyPerry 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tragedy of this video is mentioning Dave Arneson only in passing. Good to see you didn't miss mentioning Gary Gygax. :)

  • @astrograph7875
    @astrograph7875 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    5e was my intro to Dnd and my Dad’s intro was 2e. I got him to get back into it after I purchased the 5e starter set and played the mines of phandalar(forgot how to spell the name) with him. Projared inspired me to pick up the starter set and I’m so glad I did.

  • @kylekrahl5727
    @kylekrahl5727 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got my start actually from HeroQuest. Then I started reading Dragonlance and then got into AD&D 2. I followed Dragonlance into the short lived Saga system and continue to play that today.

  • @cheneymoss6402
    @cheneymoss6402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, just found this (have been looking at some of your other videos). I played D&D back in the 80s (and did so all the way up to 4th edition). 5e is also what brought me back to the game! Mainly due to my youngest son wanting to try out D&D when the lockdowns started. We have been enjoying it ever since!

  • @grimm76328
    @grimm76328 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Played red through black box as a kid in the 80s. Now running weekly games for 5e with my friends for the last 4 years.

  • @originaluddite
    @originaluddite 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first D&D and RPG experience was at a lunchtime activity in secondary school (Australia) in the late 80s. The GM was less than keen on embellishing the game with backstory. As soon as a new player (or an old player who had lost his last character) had rolled up a character the GM would bring them into the game by saying 'you appear on a road'. Despite that, the game was still enticing and I have never entirely left it.

  • @macewen1
    @macewen1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started playing when I was 10, was a die hard fan of 2nd Ed and finally gave that over once I played 5e which is by far one of the best table top games I have spent any time with.