Ok this is interesting, but can it haul any weight? Why are you racing around a track bobtail? I want to see you haul up a 3 mile hill with a 6 percent grade carrying 25000 kgs.
The Hyzon is almost certainly a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle (HFCV) which means it uses an electric drivetrain. This was made obvious by the way it launched from the starting line. Electric motors can be configured to give much more torque than a diesel. The problem with electric drivetrains has never been about their ability to produce adequate power, it's how to feed them with the energy required to produce that power. An electric drivetrain can be much smaller than a diesel drivetrain yet produce far more torque and Hp. With a HFCV this is done using a battery pack as a buffer for the output of the fuel cell. Fuel cells (as sized for this application) typically cannot produce the amperage for sustained high performance applications (like repeated aggressive accelerations or extended periods of extreme high-speed driving) so they employ a battery that acts like a huge energy storage capacitor. The battery pack isn't nearly as large as in an EV and cannot provide sustained "battery powered EV only" driving for anything more than perhaps 15-20 miles before draining the battery. The battery packs can however, dump huge amounts of energy for several minutes before needing to allow the fuel cell to refill or charge it back up. The engineers will almost certainly have designed the size of the battery pack to allow for hauling 25,000 kgs for several miles up a 6% grade. Tesla recently demonstrated their BEV semi doing this with 20,000 kgs, passing a diesel like it was standing still. And the Tesla semi likely weighs 8,000 to 10,000 pounds more than the Hyzon.
In case anyone is curious, Hyzon puts hydrogen-fueled powertrains in Daimler trucks - Freightliner in the USA, and Mercedes-Benz in Europe. This appears to be a Mercedes Axor, but they also do the Freightliner Cascadia (long nose conventional highway tractor) and Mercedes/Freightliner Econic (low cab forward). This is a fuel cell hybrid, meaning that the hydrogen is used by a fuel cell stack to produce electricity, the axles are driven by an electric motor, and a battery smooths out power demand and stores energy from regenerative braking.
After good start the Hydrogen truck was mostly just blocking the lines and defending its lead against the diesel truck. Tactically astute and mature play from Hydrogen!
The Hyzon truck got the jump on the diesel truck at the start but didn't draw away any further. This test didn't really prove anything. Load the trucks to capacity and test them pulling a load in real day to day circumstances.
If speed around a race track were actually relevant, a useful test would be to run one truck at a time (from the same starting position), and compare lap times. There is nothing useful about this exercise.
I agree, Hyzon has become very serious about this technology. As far as when you'll see them in Germany, I suspect it won't be too long. However, Germany doesn't yet have the Hydrogen infrastructure so it's hard to predict.
Interesting question. The water exiting the fuel cell will be quite hot but if it didn't evaporate it would freeze. Rolling down the road it wouldn't produce enough water to cause an issue. However, sitting at a light might present a problem.
I notice the criticism on this video and sort of agree that this proves nothing. It's just marketing... in which case it arguably succeeded because currently this is the second most viewed video on the channel.
This video shows an ICE vs Electric race. A Diesel vs Hydrogen race would involve maybe deliveries with loads over a working week and would involve refilling. In this kind of race the Hydrogen would lose because the hydrogen refilling infrastructure simply isn't there, yet.
That was no ICE. Burning H2 in an ICE won't give you the torque of a diesel. The way that Hyzon launched means it's almost certainly a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle (HFCV) with electric motors fed power from a small battery pack. Since fuel cells (as sized for an automotive application) typically cannot produce the amperage for sustained high performance applications (like repeated aggressive accelerations or extended periods of extreme high-speed driving) HFCV's require small battery packs to act as buffers for the fuel cell. The battery pack isn't nearly as large as in an EV and cannot provide sustained "battery powered EV only" driving for anything more than perhaps 15-20 miles before draining the battery. The battery packs can however, dump huge amounts of amperage for several minutes before needing to be allowed to recover. I can't say for certain though but this is how Toyota and Honda configure their production HFCV's. Hyzon may be doing something different but it's unlikely.
What is the point of acceleration indicators if the operation will take place in conditions of urban and suburban roads, densely populated with traffic? The notorious "horse in a vacuum"
It is pointless and dramatic to have a a race on a circuit to prove who's faster when it comes down to driving skill more than the truck speed, I don't think this was money well-spent and as an investor I would like to see marketing that is much more effective in demonstrating the the possibilities surrounding this tech
What's the fuel economy? How many kilometres can the hydrogen truck do on a full tank compared to the diesel? Who cares about acceleration if you can still do the speed limit.
@@jake_break9185 Nikola made a promo video of their truck driving on a straight road, two years ago. Later it turned out the truck was using gravity (downhill) to move forward as it didn't have an engine. The CEO turned out to be a fraud. Hope this helps
Impressed that the electric truck made it around the course . Diesel will travel hundreds of miles before twenty minute fill up ,oil chech , tire check , windows washed , lunch for driver and bathroom break . As opposed to eight hour battery charge and chance of fire . Let’s not forget the people tearing down power plants , brown outs and black outs while promising lies they can never fulfill .😂😂😂
@@MeatGunz- Not true in this instance. The Hyzon is almost certainly a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle (HFCV) which means it uses an electric drivetrain. This was made obvious by the way it launched from the starting line. A diesel ICE configured to burn hydrogen would not have had nearly the torque that an ICE burning diesel would have. Electric motors can be configured to give tremendous amounts of torque. Actually, if there wasn't such a problem feeding them the huge amounts of electrical energy they need to produce such power you'd see far more electric motors in transportation applications. Hopefully, improvements to Li-ion or other chemistries like sodium-ion or aluminum-ion will change this. By the way, since the Hyzon is likely using a fuel cell, it must also be using a fairly large battery acting as a buffer for the output of the fuel cell. Not nearly as large as the battery in a fully battery powered EV (like Tesla Semi's 900kWh battery pack), but likely between 15-20kWh.
@@brianb-p6586 Even when accelerating from complete stop? I'm a retired long haul driver, I have not seen a diesel engine that did not spew black cmoke from complete stop.
@itch4travel when you were driving, did the engines use mechanical injection pumps? That old hardware is hopeless and cannot control injection volume well enough to avoid soot production under some conditions. You can't buy stuff that bad for on-road use any more.
@@brianb-p6586 mechanical injection pump. is 60s technology. Our first diesel car was an 180D Mercedes Benz with mechanical injection pump. I know the difference between mechanical and now modern injection pump.I have driven Kenworth, Freightliner, International and Volvo big trucks, they all emits black smoke on heavy acceleration and in going steep hills.
If Musk says H2 has no oomph then I cannot see him mistaken! Though perhaps Musk has omitted to consider that the O from the electrolysis is also to be captured and used. H2 and O in liquified form being able by their reaction to propel rockets to Space. Probably the case - imho - that some sort of controlled supply of Oxygen to the combustion system of H2 will be able to supply the oomph which Musk needs to compete with hydrocarbons.
No one would bother carrying liquid oxygen in a land vehicle. The potential production of oxygen as a by-product of hydrogen production should be an economic benefit, but is irrelevant to hydrogen-fueled vehicles other than rockets (and few rockets are hydrogen-fueled). Hydrogen for rockets is actually produced, like essentially all commercially produced hydrogen, from natural gas. That process does not produce oxygen as a by-product.
@@brianb-p6586 My notion for the generalised industrial use of H2 is generation through electrolysis of sea water by dynamos actuated by many different techniques which harness what may be termed ‘ambient planetary energy’. The ‘cosmic motors’ for these are 1 - Sun; 2 - Moon; and 3 - Cosmic Gyre (or Universal Spin). To my own reflective process the two main ways used so far - solar panels and wind turbines - are the most inefficient and least desirable. Without knowing scientifically it appears to humble self that universal spin is probably the most generative - Earth’s turning shoves liquid against continents and the result weaves an integrated pattern of ocean currents over the globe. 2/5 the weight of liquid concrete slow but broad-fronted - 100s of miles. The power grid derivable from this would not require storage it will be concentrating the liveliness of earth just a little to make many times more available energy than on old bases of oils and coal. Oxygen comes with it which I mention because it is usually ignored and I though techniques might be developed to use it to ‘ginger’ up the oomphless burning of H2 in combustion engines.
HYDROGEN WOULD BE GREAT IF THERE WAS A DEVICE THAT SAY WHEN YOU GET TO THE PUMP AND JUST PUMP WATER INTO THE TANKS AND THEN THE DEVICE WOULD SEPERATE THE OXYGEN FROM THE HYDROGEN AND BURN THE HYDROGEN FOR THE FUEL, UNTIL TAT HAPPENS, I DON'T SEE HYDROGEN BECOMING A USEFUL FUEL ANYTIME SOON
1:19 oh, the diesel is going to overtake the h2. let's cut to a different scene where they are 15m apart... "and tell the diesel driver to remember he is in our commercial"... Also, let's cut the standard "zero emission" bullshit of all the electric and hydrogen cars... Where do you think the Hydrogen comes from? Electrolysis needs electricity, and that needs some source too... Of course, if you are or Norway (or perhaps Austria, Canada), where the majority of electricity comes from hydro power plants, or a country where majority comes from nuclear (France,..), then it's kind of OK (emission-wise... let's not pretend that the "green" forms of energy don't pose problems of their own), but for example Germany needed to open new coal power plants just because of the rise of popularity of electric cars... So they don't have zero emission... their emissions are just created somewhere else.
Have they figured out a way to not have to use a shit ton of hydrogen in order to make same power? Why not try bottling your farts, these commenters will sniff them and help push the truck for you.
Real compromise, when the tanks explode and either come into the cab or into the car (thank u toyota) and kill not only the driver but any and every body around the vehicle. So untill u can make the system safer, I do not see hydrogen a safer alternative. Here is the kicker, buses will be using hydrogen and what happens when there tanks explode and kill every body on the bus or at the mall? What then, ' oh back to the drawing board', the same board u used to kill a couple of hundred people and do major damage to say truck stops and mall across this country? Say no to Hyson and no to Toyota
Not a chance. No hydrogen-fueled vehicle is lighter than an equivalent diesel-fueled vehicle, due to the weight of the hydrogen tanks (the tanks themselves, not the hydrogen in them).
My car beats both of them. Racing is not what trucks are built for! The question is how heavy can your truck pull steep uphill, how fast it can stop, and how slowly it can go downhill with heavy load. Nonsense.
How stupid. How about race up a hill with a full load. Anyone with knowledge of a fool cell truck knows that there is a lithium ion battery in there. That battery can produce massive current for a short while for off the line brief acceleration with no load. Then the low power fool cells work over time to recharge it, or it gets charged during braking like the battery in a Prius. I guess stunts like this fuel investment for a while until people realize it takes more than a prototype to make a company, it takes a huge factory. A factory that ... look left ... look right ... doesn't seem to be around. Sort of a big hat no cattle kind of situation. There have been hydrogen powered trucks available since 2017 and even before that. Why don't we see them. Trucking companies have calculators and accountants that realize it will cost more that 3 times as much to drive a hydrogen powered truck than almost any alternative including battery powered trucks. There have been big changes in management at Hyzon lately. I suppose the new crew will eventually figure out they are there to guide this thing into bankruptcy. I haven't looked at the Altman Z score for this one yet, but I suspect it isn't good.
Glad to be on board, I hope to see Hyzon trucks rolling on the streets of Finland in future.
Ok this is interesting, but can it haul any weight? Why are you racing around a track bobtail? I want to see you haul up a 3 mile hill with a 6 percent grade carrying 25000 kgs.
These trucks have many more times torque than a standard diesel.
To answer your question YES
The Hyzon is almost certainly a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle (HFCV) which means it uses an electric drivetrain. This was made obvious by the way it launched from the starting line. Electric motors can be configured to give much more torque than a diesel. The problem with electric drivetrains has never been about their ability to produce adequate power, it's how to feed them with the energy required to produce that power. An electric drivetrain can be much smaller than a diesel drivetrain yet produce far more torque and Hp. With a HFCV this is done using a battery pack as a buffer for the output of the fuel cell. Fuel cells (as sized for this application) typically cannot produce the amperage for sustained high performance applications (like repeated aggressive accelerations or extended periods of extreme high-speed driving) so they employ a battery that acts like a huge energy storage capacitor. The battery pack isn't nearly as large as in an EV and cannot provide sustained "battery powered EV only" driving for anything more than perhaps 15-20 miles before draining the battery. The battery packs can however, dump huge amounts of energy for several minutes before needing to allow the fuel cell to refill or charge it back up. The engineers will almost certainly have designed the size of the battery pack to allow for hauling 25,000 kgs for several miles up a 6% grade. Tesla recently demonstrated their BEV semi doing this with 20,000 kgs, passing a diesel like it was standing still. And the Tesla semi likely weighs 8,000 to 10,000 pounds more than the Hyzon.
In case anyone is curious, Hyzon puts hydrogen-fueled powertrains in Daimler trucks - Freightliner in the USA, and Mercedes-Benz in Europe. This appears to be a Mercedes Axor, but they also do the Freightliner Cascadia (long nose conventional highway tractor) and Mercedes/Freightliner Econic (low cab forward).
This is a fuel cell hybrid, meaning that the hydrogen is used by a fuel cell stack to produce electricity, the axles are driven by an electric motor, and a battery smooths out power demand and stores energy from regenerative braking.
It looks more like a DAF CF cab mate
It does,@@honours1980 - good catch. So apparently they are working with two truck suppliers.
Fantastic #Hydrogen work, you are doing daily, dear Craig and team!!!
After good start the Hydrogen truck was mostly just blocking the lines and defending its lead against the diesel truck. Tactically astute and mature play from Hydrogen!
Also, trucks are not about speed, but torque and pulling power.
Even if it could smoke a sports car, that wouldn't matter much out of the track.
So Hydrogen won, hey how bout that?
Solid company. Expect to see more of Hyzon very soon.
The Hyzon truck got the jump on the diesel truck at the start but didn't draw away any further. This test didn't really prove anything. Load the trucks to capacity and test them pulling a load in real day to day circumstances.
Just promo material not an actual race, calm down.
The hydrogen Hyzon truck won. Off the line it smoked it, then it had to slow down for corners.
There is videos of the Nikola truck doing all of that
If speed around a race track were actually relevant, a useful test would be to run one truck at a time (from the same starting position), and compare lap times. There is nothing useful about this exercise.
And this is only the beginning...
Must be a weird feeling for the driver of the H2 truck to know he is driving a rolling bomb that could blast away anything in a 500 feet radius.
I might have missed something and I'm all for hydrogen ICE, are both truck the same power output or equivalent?
wow Hyzon macht echt ernst sie entwickeln sich immer weiter bin gespannt wann ich in Deutschland die ersten Trucks sehe :) Hyzon too the moon :)
I agree, Hyzon has become very serious about this technology. As far as when you'll see them in Germany, I suspect it won't be too long. However, Germany doesn't yet have the Hydrogen infrastructure so it's hard to predict.
Fantastic!
Great Company!
What do you do in freezing conditions when the water hits the ground...? Do you leave all other cars behing you on the slippery road?
Interesting question. The water exiting the fuel cell will be quite hot but if it didn't evaporate it would freeze. Rolling down the road it wouldn't produce enough water to cause an issue. However, sitting at a light might present a problem.
Diesel and gasoline engines produce water vapour, too.
I notice the criticism on this video and sort of agree that this proves nothing. It's just marketing... in which case it arguably succeeded because currently this is the second most viewed video on the channel.
This video shows an ICE vs Electric race. A Diesel vs Hydrogen race would involve maybe deliveries with loads over a working week and would involve refilling. In this kind of race the Hydrogen would lose because the hydrogen refilling infrastructure simply isn't there, yet.
The diesel lost this race.
The diesel lost this race.
Right now only the companies who buy the trucks will have refueling capabilities I guess.
Yes But Against Ev Power produced by Hydrogen not Hydrogen power@@parrsnipps4495
No Tesla Won and it will keep winning
whats the autonomy of this truck?
A única coisa que essa corrida provou, e que ele tem mais torque para uma melhor largada que o caminhão a diesel
The most impressive thing about this race is that they think it was impressive.
How about cost of km with full load?
is this hydrogen combustion liek JCB were doing, or hydrogen cell?
Great truck, but, Where do you find hydrogen?
Is it a H2 combustion engine or H2 Fuel cell EV ? Torque at launch was incredible
That was no ICE. Burning H2 in an ICE won't give you the torque of a diesel. The way that Hyzon launched means it's almost certainly a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle (HFCV) with electric motors fed power from a small battery pack. Since fuel cells (as sized for an automotive application) typically cannot produce the amperage for sustained high performance applications (like repeated aggressive accelerations or extended periods of extreme high-speed driving) HFCV's require small battery packs to act as buffers for the fuel cell. The battery pack isn't nearly as large as in an EV and cannot provide sustained "battery powered EV only" driving for anything more than perhaps 15-20 miles before draining the battery. The battery packs can however, dump huge amounts of amperage for several minutes before needing to be allowed to recover. I can't say for certain though but this is how Toyota and Honda configure their production HFCV's. Hyzon may be doing something different but it's unlikely.
It doesn't matter, because it is a hybrid. At launch the battery is delivering the required power.
@@Tron-Jockeyyes, the Hyzon is a typical fuel cell hybrid.
No no. That’s not fair. Bear 60t and race again.
Because trucking is all about how fast the truck is. (rolls eyes)
Nice...
Crash safety is something else with hydrogen.
HYDROGEN POWER 😎👍 IDEAL FOR FUTURE
What is the point of acceleration indicators if the operation will take place in conditions of urban and suburban roads, densely populated with traffic? The notorious "horse in a vacuum"
Cost of producing Hydrogen? Infraestructure? Trucks are not made to race. Right?
It is pointless and dramatic to have a a race on a circuit to prove who's faster when it comes down to driving skill more than the truck speed, I don't think this was money well-spent and as an investor I would like to see marketing that is much more effective in demonstrating the the possibilities surrounding this tech
That's impressive. Go Hyzon (ticker HYZN).
YEAH! LETS GO
oh sure , now do a race with a loaded trailer , isn't that the role of a truck ?
show me the test pulling loaded trailers
IN WINTER MAY HYDROGEN SILENCERS GET FREEZE!
This is a promo video, lol. Made by the producer of the truck that won.
What's the fuel economy? How many kilometres can the hydrogen truck do on a full tank compared to the diesel? Who cares about acceleration if you can still do the speed limit.
Range is 400 to 600 km on a full tank of hydrogen.
I would like to see this but with 1/2 full trailers, this is just showing me its fast but reality is torque is needed more than speed
Next up: Tesla Vs Hyzon.
Next up: Hyzon vs Nikola. Oh wait this circuit isn't downhill nevermind...
Too savage
Meaning what? Which truck is better going up hill?
@@jake_break9185 Nikola made a promo video of their truck driving on a straight road, two years ago. Later it turned out the truck was using gravity (downhill) to move forward as it didn't have an engine. The CEO turned out to be a fraud. Hope this helps
Masterful Marketing at its finest. 👏👏👏
2023.09.28 Nikola Celebrates Entry Into HFCEV Market
Impressed that the electric truck made it around the course . Diesel will travel hundreds of miles before twenty minute fill up ,oil chech , tire check , windows washed , lunch for driver and bathroom break . As opposed to eight hour battery charge and chance of fire . Let’s not forget the people tearing down power plants , brown outs and black outs while promising lies they can never fulfill .😂😂😂
@@MeatGunz- Not true in this instance. The Hyzon is almost certainly a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle (HFCV) which means it uses an electric drivetrain. This was made obvious by the way it launched from the starting line. A diesel ICE configured to burn hydrogen would not have had nearly the torque that an ICE burning diesel would have. Electric motors can be configured to give tremendous amounts of torque. Actually, if there wasn't such a problem feeding them the huge amounts of electrical energy they need to produce such power you'd see far more electric motors in transportation applications. Hopefully, improvements to Li-ion or other chemistries like sodium-ion or aluminum-ion will change this. By the way, since the Hyzon is likely using a fuel cell, it must also be using a fairly large battery acting as a buffer for the output of the fuel cell. Not nearly as large as the battery in a fully battery powered EV (like Tesla Semi's 900kWh battery pack), but likely between 15-20kWh.
Con frigo cargado 24 toneladas por favor, y luego miraremos!!!!
Why is the diesel truck not spewing black smoke?
Properly managed diesel engines do not spew black smoke.
@@brianb-p6586 Even when accelerating from complete stop?
I'm a retired long haul driver, I have not seen a diesel engine that did not spew black cmoke from complete stop.
@itch4travel when you were driving, did the engines use mechanical injection pumps? That old hardware is hopeless and cannot control injection volume well enough to avoid soot production under some conditions. You can't buy stuff that bad for on-road use any more.
@@brianb-p6586 mechanical injection pump. is 60s technology. Our first diesel car was an 180D Mercedes Benz with mechanical injection pump. I know the difference between mechanical and now modern injection pump.I have driven Kenworth, Freightliner, International and Volvo big trucks, they all emits black smoke on heavy acceleration and in going steep hills.
@@brianb-p6586 I retired as a long haul driveer in 2010, and not aware of new technology about diesel engine. I may be wrong.
Please, please build a race truck and enter it into the ETRL(Euro Truck Racing League). I beg you, please do this.
Pulse Pounding
Irrelevant without a trailer hooked up to it and hauling 80,000 pounds
Love it. When can we expect to see them on the highways? Go Hydrogen economy, stop future wars.
If Musk says H2 has no oomph then I cannot see him mistaken! Though perhaps Musk has omitted to consider that the O from the electrolysis is also to be captured and used. H2 and O in liquified form being able by their reaction to propel rockets to Space. Probably the case - imho - that some sort of controlled supply of Oxygen to the combustion system of H2 will be able to supply the oomph which Musk needs to compete with hydrocarbons.
No one would bother carrying liquid oxygen in a land vehicle. The potential production of oxygen as a by-product of hydrogen production should be an economic benefit, but is irrelevant to hydrogen-fueled vehicles other than rockets (and few rockets are hydrogen-fueled).
Hydrogen for rockets is actually produced, like essentially all commercially produced hydrogen, from natural gas. That process does not produce oxygen as a by-product.
@@brianb-p6586
My notion for the generalised industrial use of H2 is generation through electrolysis of sea water by dynamos actuated by many different techniques which harness what may be termed ‘ambient planetary energy’. The ‘cosmic motors’ for these are 1 - Sun; 2 - Moon; and 3 - Cosmic Gyre (or Universal Spin). To my own reflective process the two main ways used so far - solar panels and wind turbines - are the most inefficient and least desirable. Without knowing scientifically it appears to humble self that universal spin is probably the most generative - Earth’s turning shoves liquid against continents and the result weaves an integrated pattern of ocean currents over the globe. 2/5 the weight of liquid concrete slow but broad-fronted - 100s of miles.
The power grid derivable from this would not require storage it will be concentrating the liveliness of earth just a little to make many times more available energy than on old bases of oils and coal. Oxygen comes with it which I mention because it is usually ignored and I though techniques might be developed to use it to ‘ginger’ up the oomphless burning of H2 in combustion engines.
90km/h max:D
Nothing impressed about just a little faster.
What’s the point of this video?
wish this wasn't so one sided
The dumbest thing you can do to test a truck.
Nikola has the longer range. 900miles a day
HYDROGEN WOULD BE GREAT IF THERE WAS A DEVICE THAT SAY WHEN YOU GET TO THE PUMP AND JUST PUMP WATER INTO THE TANKS AND THEN THE DEVICE WOULD SEPERATE THE OXYGEN FROM THE HYDROGEN AND BURN THE HYDROGEN FOR THE FUEL, UNTIL TAT HAPPENS, I DON'T SEE HYDROGEN BECOMING A USEFUL FUEL ANYTIME SOON
Racing heavy trucks on a track is intensely stupid. Comparing trucks without any load (trailer) is intensely stupid.
What a surprise the Hyzon truck won. The diesel truck wasn’t driven by an incompetent loser at all (or a fake driver).
1:19 oh, the diesel is going to overtake the h2. let's cut to a different scene where they are 15m apart... "and tell the diesel driver to remember he is in our commercial"...
Also, let's cut the standard "zero emission" bullshit of all the electric and hydrogen cars...
Where do you think the Hydrogen comes from? Electrolysis needs electricity, and that needs some source too...
Of course, if you are or Norway (or perhaps Austria, Canada), where the majority of electricity comes from hydro power plants, or a country where majority comes from nuclear (France,..), then it's kind of OK (emission-wise... let's not pretend that the "green" forms of energy don't pose problems of their own), but for example Germany needed to open new coal power plants just because of the rise of popularity of electric cars... So they don't have zero emission... their emissions are just created somewhere else.
hyzon trucks looks chinese or korean.
The big deal is hydrogen engines don’t produce dirty emissions. Secondly, hydro electric motors have unmatched power and traction control.
"Hydro electric motors" don't exist. Electric motors, just like diesel engines, are available in a very wide range of sizes and outputs.
Have they figured out a way to not have to use a shit ton of hydrogen in order to make same power? Why not try bottling your farts, these commenters will sniff them and help push the truck for you.
no sense load both lorries up hill
Hydrogen - I see, a lot of pollution. Ground is wet :-)
Real compromise, when the tanks explode and either come into the cab or into the car (thank u toyota) and kill not only the driver but any and every body around the vehicle. So untill u can make the system safer, I do not see hydrogen a safer alternative. Here is the kicker, buses will be using hydrogen and what happens when there tanks explode and kill every body on the bus or at the mall? What then, ' oh back to the drawing board', the same board u used to kill a couple of hundred people and do major damage to say truck stops and mall across this country? Say no to Hyson and no to Toyota
I think Hyzon is lighter than Diesel truck, therefore it has better acceleration 👍👍😀
I think the bigger factor is that the Hyzon truck doesn't need to do gear changes.
Not a chance. No hydrogen-fueled vehicle is lighter than an equivalent diesel-fueled vehicle, due to the weight of the hydrogen tanks (the tanks themselves, not the hydrogen in them).
My car beats both of them. Racing is not what trucks are built for! The question is how heavy can your truck pull steep uphill, how fast it can stop, and how slowly it can go downhill with heavy load. Nonsense.
Childish nonsense.
Hydrogen comes with price though, more power yes = more stored energy end result big boom.
Your stocks have dropped massively..... Get the finger oot.
Perfect time for me to buy cheap 🥳
Please remove the music. Have ambient sound from each Prime Mover and track noise.
Slow
Now will the hypocrites in the political spectrum allow this????
Fake news
How stupid. How about race up a hill with a full load. Anyone with knowledge of a fool cell truck knows that there is a lithium ion battery in there. That battery can produce massive current for a short while for off the line brief acceleration with no load. Then the low power fool cells work over time to recharge it, or it gets charged during braking like the battery in a Prius. I guess stunts like this fuel investment for a while until people realize it takes more than a prototype to make a company, it takes a huge factory. A factory that ... look left ... look right ... doesn't seem to be around. Sort of a big hat no cattle kind of situation. There have been hydrogen powered trucks available since 2017 and even before that. Why don't we see them. Trucking companies have calculators and accountants that realize it will cost more that 3 times as much to drive a hydrogen powered truck than almost any alternative including battery powered trucks. There have been big changes in management at Hyzon lately. I suppose the new crew will eventually figure out they are there to guide this thing into bankruptcy. I haven't looked at the Altman Z score for this one yet, but I suspect it isn't good.