Government Says F&O TRADING is GAMBLING?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Mr PR Sundar shares his views on a recent article published in Financial Express.
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What about Govt giving license to dream11 betting apps... Govt is not at all concerned about people, it looks after it's own benefit of more taxes...
Absolutely correct 💯
Also nowadays u can see so many celebrities and sportsperson doing gambling and speculative ads for gaming apps were losing money there is 100% chance and F&O When done with rightful manner creates income which govt wants to increase taxes. GOVT is clearly determined to create 5 trillion economy by collecting taxes.
They pay and deduct taxes...as speculative gains...
If we loose then government should pay back reverse tax...
Does anyone feel PR sundar is being selfish !! 😢
" Testing waters before taking the plunge ". Coming to the brasstacks, what impact it will have on stock market if F& O tax were increased ? The subject is timely & beneficial for investors.
predictive next minute move is less speculative and more data based than predicting next year moves. Leaps are total speculation, intraday is purely data and current movement basis.
Price moves are fractal in nature... but exit polls fiasco on stock market is pure speculation... not done by intraday players...
Changes required sir, f&o highest in stock market transactions but same time heavy losses attained, Only mutual fund organisation will do allow for hedging for their businesses, any one single rupee not to loose if sebi rules modified as per available smooth sail.
Sebi can remove derivatives
First நீங்க ஏன் fees வாங்கரீங்க... உங்கள யார் F&O பண்ண சொன்னாங்க...
To save retailers and to stop big manipulations, profit more than 10K per day will pay tax. But profit below 10K per day tax free.
It is gambling that's why 99% gamblers🎉 loose money and 1% win😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂if u don't have potential.. then don't be hitting fno and cry saying gambling lol
If you are not a intellectual crooked you cannot win in fno
How many of them have studied the market deeply
@@அழகியதமிழ்மகன்-ழ3ச so u r... A
idiots who go blank naked call or put, call it gambling, for people go with hedge will know its business
If govt. made this much rule based stock trading then .. the flavour of stock market would vanish... Then there will be no trading itself as it will be like as similar as other businesses.
They could simply allow some leverage in futures and lower charges for futures trading and options will automatically lose a lot of traders.
I trade in Options for living…. If taxes are increased on Option trading I shall vote for Opposition party in next state and national level elections…. I shall encourage others to do so as well….
Good potential stocks are still underperforming for this fno... Bez big players are making money withis stocks using fno.... Or shd be stop stock fno atleast...
IN INDIA I HAVE SOLD SHARES ON 28/03/2024, IN WHICH FINANCIAL YEAR THE CAPITAL GAINS ARE TO BE CALCULATED IF PAY OUT IS ON 02/04/2024.
According to your trade book
However we may speak... Govt found that this is the place where they can extract as many money as they want... So they're just saying this and that and extracting taxes... For sure if this happen Indian markets will lose many investments also...
I am sorry to say that whether BJP comes again or not, it's not the matter, we will be sacked out of the market if things go wrong. Better to take care as SIR said.
Thank you very much sir for OUTSTANDING INFORMATION.
Can anyone tell me tht pr Sundar sir is available in chennai ir off to Dubai??
Mostly cnbc manipulating every before budget. Seriously watch out
F&O is the best way for intelligent people to convert 1L to 1 Million
or convert 1 million to 1 lakh 😀
Both are same my brother 😂
@@toabhijeetsingh This is for fool
That's why 99% trader are in loss
Try.... Market will give return more than that 😊
this is what happens when incompetent leading finance and soon might lead everyone to pay higher tax.... jyada lagaan dena padega if you want to do anything.
Finnifty lot size 40 to 25
Limit the value of trade for 5 mins
Why are you so selfish and against intraday trading on taxation, just because you are a positional seller with large capital. And you want to run intraday option course. Comedy.
In that case stock market will be closed no investment
This guy does not do intraday. So he asks government to penalize heavily only intraday traders. If they start banning long term options, he will start crying that the govt is not doing any favour.
He is very tricky and maximum selfish minded mean person
he meens to have a stable and constant income thats y u have to invenst in share
video he is advocating for government policies that specifically benefit his positional trading activities. He emphasizes that his focus is on positional trades and wants the government to create favorable conditions for this type of trading. The entire discussion revolves around how the government can implement rules that support his trading strategy without negatively impacting other traders.
P r sundar sir...we give respect to you...
Why you killing your respect by yourself
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This is not a valid point what government is implementing.. What nonsense, by Nature Share market is speculations and if somebody loosing his own money, somebody earning the loosers money. This is not a 9_5 job where you work and company will give you salary... Aur jo bhi satta laga rahe hai they're mature enough to loose their money.. Thats their problem why govt is interfering...Aur Dream11 bhi chal raha hai na govt ke permission se..Does they interfere. Wth!!!!
Who told stock market is speculative...except half inlowdge people..
If it's speculative. Every business is speculative and insurence is also speculative.
Then they should ban casinos, lottery and all that online Dream11, Rummy Circle etc. Nonsense. We need good FM.
The government should stop Daily Expiry. ONE expiry weekly will be good....
Poda Dai... we need daily expiry
Govt. Will collect tax from us and give it to "adani" directly or indirectly
This govt has only one policy you earn or not no matter you pay only taxes or else you live below poverty line and get all benefits from scheme....the lust for power had made this party to face us situation like sri lanka
This budget will decide the BJPs future...... 😂😂😂😂😂😂
If they increase more tax, people (both domestic and foreign investors) will look for foreign markets to invest..
Already I'm considering switching to the US markets.
The average Indian hard working tax payer already has no options.. no reservations, no freebies, no subsidies.. on top of it, government is looking at ways to increase taxes.. life is becoming very difficult for the hard working average Indian middle class.
Don't worry sir ..BJP will never come in power after that
Yes I agree
Don't count on logic, it's not economic logic rather communal hatred working these days. Look at last 10 yrs petrol price n common man's living expenses
@@sphb100 Who came to power now in third term?
@@shyneu political haterate going on from freedom of nation . All parties uses this. But BJP hitting normal people economically .Already they damaged retail people so badly that they can't afford more hitting . The results of LS clearly showed this.
@@hrp4566 that depends on many aspects.
You are correct: FIIs are a blessing in disguise for domestic traders. If the market is volatile ,as we are witnessing nowadays, there is no point in extolling that our market indices have reached the apex.
If govt is really concerned about retail traders they should cut the stt and other taxes to retail tradings.
Sundar wants the government to levy higher tax on intra-day trades as he does only positional trading 😆
Shut your mouth. Don't underestimate him he is well known trader. His views went right many times for example 2024 elections his predictions were right and he made 3 crores on the day of counting. You better shut your mouth if you don't want to listen him
He's P R December
@@praveenkampli7992 with your mouth shut, how much did YOU make...😆
Sundar doesn't trade he trains 😎😅
Trading is an Elite club. Nowadays all Tom, Dick and Harry started trading that this Govt doesn't want or wanted - A normal people should only sell Onion pokadas outside the Zee studio
Everything in this life is gambling. What all the businesses are doing is gambling. If government wants to stop gambling it should arrange for everyone to join their spiritual organization and stop all economic activities.
well said..Bitter reality of the world
hahaha noob
very right
very true. No one would have thought like this. Hope Gov understands this.
Nicely said
the more the participation the more would be the efficiency some one from the county should i guess step up and provide content in regional languages so that its easy for the people to understand the concepts. These decisions are what making us a third world country i think it would be wise to use this to our advantage by providing abundant knowledge proportionate markets with a good borrowing rate instead of punishing the people to be born in the country.
Whoever looses will keep on loosing and whoever gaining will keep on gaining. Thats how the market works.
I have been a keen observer of your content for the past four years and have always appreciated your insightful analysis. However, I was surprised to see your recent conclusion about the possibility of intraday trading being stopped forever. With all due respect, I think it may be overlooking a crucial aspect of financial markets.
If intraday trading were to be halted, it would significantly impact liquidity provision. I kindly request you to consider the importance of market makers and intraday traders in providing liquidity to the markets.
😁😁in short I think you are not aware about the financial markets liquidity concept please study more then jump
You have highlighted valid points. Superb!
If nda govt put 30% tax on fo. This will be their last tenure in ruling
Options trading for retailers is dangerous. It is a travesty that this gentleman is encouraging this
Any more tax will result BJP will be kicked out forever.
Why dont Govrt discourage by educating them??? Form a committee or appoint education institutions where they spread awareness about risk and losses ?? Why to discourage by imposing taxes only ?!? I think its only money grabbing in the name of taxes/development of country
Since last year.. whenever you login you have to accept the risk message..Do you think anything has changed?
It's like those stickers on cigarette packets.. People will continue to smoke..
TDS and converting to speculative income will be a disaster. Gov should focus on increasing STT or Tax from Demat/ Funds Managing more than 10 Cr and keep on increasing till they make net 25% CAGR after Tax/STT. Growth of rich getting richer should be linear not exponential/explosive like 50% CAGR plus like these FII/HFTs achieve.
Your look resembles Soran
As you said, banning Intraday, controlling Injection are like saying closure of TASMAC in TN.
All Drama! ;!! 😂😂😂😂
Will have to wait and see what is the official announcement by fm. These days anything is being spread. And markets may not react as much as people speculate.
Why to ban intraday?..are you naive Mr. Sundar?...so many people make money of it with hedging strategies.Naked option trading is what is dangerous.
All traders should just turn into youtube gurus like this guy. Making up for market losses and high government taxes with youtube money.
20℅ Govt Revenue only going for interest payment
Also, public expenditure needs to increase substantially from current level for infrastructure, defense, health, education, sanitation, shelter, and much more
Govt will not discourage any rich source of revenue like options trade
Anyways some changes likely on taxation front, but that too not substantial
Cabinet ministers are responsible and enlightened souls so they will do what is needed best to serve masses of this country
Have patience
Have faith
Keep eyes and ears open
Correct. Government will not be willing to reduce its share of income from FNO tax from current level. It is easy earning for Government..
They need lots of money to fund upcoming projects as planned
@@mintuindalyt one currection ... no one is enlighted soul...... they are our servents...they eat they poop...like all humans...
😂
If bjp govt announces this...... That is the end of BJP
So what? India will remain like this, doesn't matter which party comes into power
People have gambling mentality that cannot be changes through higher taxation or other measure. if sebi put an end to derivatives than that money will flow to other segment for speculation purpose. once u r gambler that always u gambler until u have zero money.
First sebi charges should be removed. Sebi chairman should be removed. Even this RBI GOVERNOR should be removed. All autocratic rules
Yes sir, your prediction right. Retail traders will suffer more than now.
I think buying equity share & waiting for stock price to increase is also speculation. Trading & Investing equity share should also have flat 30% tax that also with TDS. Then government should close this stock market to protect small investors.
PR sundar trades in US markets..
Does US govt. implement these type of restrictions in markets??? 😮😮😮
No they are NOT😂😂😂
Please don't follow this guy... Again indirectly he is talking about his own benefit... Ye bhi bht bade Wale seller hai... Jo long term expiry me jyada trade karte hai... Inke hisaab se sellers hi business karte hai buyers gambling karte hai... Koi inko btao Bina buyers k seller kya karenge!!!???
She forgot..FM Nirmala's marriage was purely Speculation or Gambling. But came TAXFREE.😂
Exit polls are speculation. BJP thinking of getting 400seats but in reality they got 240 is also speculative in nature. Political speeches are speculative in nature. Our country is runned by clowns.
If government announced these taxes , entire stock market go to the hell , making profits in F&O that’s not easy, then they made any profit they give 30% to government ?? What they are joking 🤣 ? Firstly retailers left the market , if retailers left market , then what FIIs do ? They also left market ..
If intra day trader is making profit, he is not the trader whom govt wants to protect. They want to protect people who are making losses. Loss means no tax. Hence its nonsense to suggest levy taxes on intra day trades and not long term trades. Levy taxes on profitable traders itself is a nonsensical idea by itself and will not be implemented. Hedging or increase margin on options buying is the only way to reduce gambler traders. If people are gambling and loosing money, why the government should care in 1st place. Then they stop all lotteries, dream 11, rummy apps and so on.
Sir, you are a prominent figure in the Indian f&o trade. If the govt. authorities are prudents enough, they can not avoid your opinion.
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Another income source for Under table sarkari naukar you pay 5% and remaining will pay by Electoral bond also..or may be in cash to sarkari Naukar also...😅😭😂
He is talking about limiting intraday trades...and meanwhile promoting his Intraday option buying course 🤣🤣 This man has no shame ...Just because he is a positional trader he is okay with any changes made for Intraday trades , at least you should take a stand for traders instead of giving you bullshit ideas
1.intraday is already not allowed for NRIs.
2.intraday already comes under speculation income.
3.intraday must be there to keep the prices realistic and prevent ultra sudden crashes in the markets.
Just ban algo trading, give even weight to each stock in index most of the manipulation, injection story will be finished. Then retailers will be saved no need any rule.
Idiotic to blame SEBI..
People should be wise to understand the difference between Utilization and Exploitation
Every body should comment against taxation ..
Plzzz
Bro, it’s politically safe to tax traders.
Traders make a very small percentage of voters, so electoral impact zero. But FnO is a cash cow which cannot be ignored by the government to milk. So they will bring it in. The bulk of voters are not involved in stock market.
Areee! All you guys whining about this. Being in the market always apply the Demand and Supply theory.
If the Govt imposed higher taxes in fno, stop trading just for a month the govt will realised how much they are loosing.
Same goes to any commodity price, if theere is a price hiked in petrol and diesel, just park your vehicles at home for just 4 days you will see how effective the price will come down easily.
The power of price control is always with the customer if we come together and have enough courage to protest by shutting down demand at one go.
With the Indian population i have a feeling this will significantly be highly effective against these tax terrorists.
May be BJP wanted to vanish from India😂
Like it or not, we have to bear the BJP for the next 5 more years😢
I think the govt should identify NRI's and FII's who make profit in india and pay no tax anywhere. They are the one's who should be taxed to the max so that they pay their due share.
*Actually the speculation is happening.. I understood that's.. Once I'm profitable but today's hitting all the SL... 30% tax only for intraday it's very good* 🔥 *already I'm planning to full positional trade due to this speculation* 🤷♂️🙃
Tax should be reduced lots of traders loose money only for taxes as per SEBI data
So pl reduce the tax to relief a majority of traders
They will bless government
"should put tax intraday, positionally it should not be done" this statement makes me wonder his height of hypocrisy, govt should not put taxes on his style of trade.
I also refer this movie every time in my arguments , print media will tell the truth in small paragraph but full story covers what they want to impress on you.I refer one big article about chinese premier fight against corruption but in small paragraph they said he use this tool to eliminate his opposition. The last line is true but full story covers how he eradicate corruption.
😅😅😅 you are now fiis
Sir please speak in hindi you are sharing valuable content with us but unfortunately your contemt are useless for us due to english language please make videos in hindi may this will help us i wish you will think about our problem
You are making this video just to presurize to not increase stt on positional..because you are not intraday trader...shame on you..
This BJP will not come in power if they do any changes in option market..this against public interests
Government is 100% right
People like you who sell courses only earn money😂😂😂😂😂
Why did you watch then!! 😂
In F&O govt planning to increase profit share...if govt really bother about retail traders please make one certification exam..even gvt increase taxes is it saves retailers...it is completely foolish reason what sebi told...still actually what sebi do still nothing benefit for retailers...if really sebi don't want retailers amount first it should stop from trading...all big institutions favouring for big players only...this time option traders making some money compare to earlier...let it show data what retailers loose for last six months to previous....for whom favour it is going to going to do
Worst finance minister
1000% your said TRUE. Incase in budget proposal, speculation tax applicable only on Indian Residencial, DII will be escaped. Definitely nifty will be crashed 5%. Last 7 years, before budget fno people faced same issues. என்ன கொடுமை sir
Set off of losses under speculation business can be carried forward for only 4 years which us 8 yeras in case of normal business
Primary use of Option is for hedging. Rather than that it is now being used for gambling/speculative trading. You have already said how big hedge funds are temporarily spiking prices (injection) to trap retailers. In US, small accounts cannot do F&O trade without hedging. I guess you also agree that some checks and balances are required.
Options cannot do hedging properly
@@virajharimkar7783 then you need to learn how to use options for hedging
Am sure it will not happened.. Some time am thinking this govt is for us or 😂😂😂
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Hi sir.
Speculative business and non speculative business are treated as two different business. Income from both the business shall be computed separately. Expenses of respective business shall be allowed against respective income. If there is a loss from speculative business, it CANNOT be set off against income from non speculative business. Loss from non-speculative business can be set off against income from speculative business.
Mr. Sundar, frankly I had been an ardent follower of your channel and I had always enjoyed your videos. But being an NRI myself since birth, but someone who cares and works for India's growth till date, after hearing you say that NRIs only should be taxed including Intra day traders has been very very disappointing. I had never expected you, of all people to talk like this. If you have any personal grievances against some NRI friend or relative of yours, you should not come on a public domain and talk such nonsense. And this suggestion of yours has no meaning whatsoever and it's purely a biased and discriminative one targetting some sections of traders only because they happen to be working abroad and sending money to India and eventually reaching your pockets indirectly. What ought to be done to prevent dangerous spikes in the market is to decrease contract/lot sizes as well place restrictions on order amounts (as you had rightly suggested here) in F&O trading. This will be the best way to prevent such unscrupulous 'gamblers' from manipulating the markets by injecting their huge 'black' money into the markets. And all this bs of calling trading in F&Os as gambling is laughable because the truth is this (low class) government needs to tax the traders and all this drama about speculation et al is merely a cheap front by that uneducated and fraudulent FM Nirmala (who is hated by her own husband by the way), to steal the common man's money and to show Modi that she has achieved something. Such a sham.
sebi ko cash market me leverage 20x kar deni chahiye. Lok option me apne aap kam ayege
NRI are not allowed to do intraday, even today !! Please check and comment.
😅😅😅self asking to discourage intraday and selling self intraday course
They are scared of the bank losing their deposits from customer
If Income from stock trading is business income then the income from fno should be business income only coz latter is used to protect the former stock trading
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