I've been following this cup for 15 years... and honestly, improvements have been very minor during this period. I know it's a hard and challenging field (I'm a robotic engineer), but the developments in machine learning, computer vision and processors should have had a more obvious impact. The goal of defeating the human team in 2050 seemed realistic 15 years ago ; now it's just utopic.
Just as a comparison, humanoid robots at Robocup 2003. th-cam.com/video/MVcDOSsdlu4/w-d-xo.htmlm39s I'd say there might have been a little bit of progress ;)
What you share wasn't really the final match (with, normally, the best teams).... 15 years ago might be a little mean, but if you look at the finals 10 years ago, the difference is very little (th-cam.com/video/iMM_XQXJUUc/w-d-xo.html (2008) , th-cam.com/video/xjSm4nE5lcY/w-d-xo.html (2009) ) I would love to see a match between the algorithms 10 years ago and the ones today ; and I would love if they can prove I'm wrong
A few things that changed between the 2009 game and the 2018 one: - blue and yellow goals got replaced by white ones (much harder to detect, also you can't tell by the goal color anymore which of the two goals you have to score in) - orange ball was replaced by black and white ball (also much harder to detect since all other things on the field are black, white, or grey) - field size got increased from 6x4 to 9x6 (makes localizing much harder and makes it more important to play as a team) - 3 vs 3 became 5 vs 5 (increased need for team play to make sure there's exactly one robot handling the ball and the others don't run into each other) - jerseys are completely custom, back then they were blue and red and made it much easier to detect and differentiate opponents and your own team - the floor is now an 8mm artificial grass instead of a billiard table-like carpet which is a lot harder for walking - robots have to now listen to the referee's whistle and don't get told over wifi when the game starts (and they have to make sure they don't react to the whistle on a neighbor field when there's a game running there, too) Back in 2008 it was easy to get good results by just having the simplest strategy possible: turn around until you see a ball, if you do walk to it, when you're there turn around the ball until you see the blue or yellow goal, when you do shoot. By now you won't get far using that, you'll need a good team strategy. There have also been a lot of improvements in terms of ball handling. You can see that the robots now are much quicker when they're close to the ball. Also, considering that the servos and joints have stayed nearly the same we're moving much faster now on a much more difficult turf. So in short: the algorithms from 10 years ago wouldn't be able to walk on the new field, they wouldn't know where they are because they lines are too far away, wouldn't know where the ball is and even if they hit it would have no idea which direction to shoot to.
Yes, we're improving speed all the time. You can check the World Championship 2018 final video th-cam.com/video/H8xc6LpiNVs/w-d-xo.html where we improved reaction time at the ball quite a lot. For next year we'll have a new version of the robot with a faster processor that will hopefully increase speed further (though the servos are about the same, so overheating will still be a very limiting factor).
The second one. It also helps with keeping the hip joints save when falling backwards since they'll land on their fingers (and break those) instead of their hip. ;) We like to think of it as Naruto style. ;) th-cam.com/video/pPeACdLYbDk/w-d-xo.html
We (the blue team) were called for "pushing" the goalie, however the ball was between the robots, so it shouldn't have been a penalty... But our No 2 was close by and finished the job anyway :D
All the teams are equal in their hardware (as in the robots are just bought from a company). However each team develops their own software. The robots need to act autonomously, there is no remote control. So each team needs to write software to make them walk (and not fall down), see the ball with the robot's cameras, see the field, the lines on the field, the other players, get a sense of direction so they know where on the field they are. Then they have to communicate (via Wifi) with their robot teammates and then try to find a good strategy as a team to win. And all of this has to work together. If a single thing fails your robots can't play. Like if they can't detect the ball they can be the fastest robots but won't score a goal. Or if they are fast and can detect the ball but don't know where on the field they are they might even score into their own goal. ;)
lol - From a shitless slave region of humanism being suffered under hoon-tribe-originated-parasitism and kiki'she' collectivism which is known as the name 'Korea', whose dwellers always steals and begs from Japan's original history which clearly inherited sincere humanity in Ancient Cudara more than its 'original' dwellers in hometown.
Was comparing this with robot football from 10 years ago - RoboCup 2008 given below: th-cam.com/video/-CKaJHd_Eis/w-d-xo.html Hardly any difference that I could see. Based on this and similar evidence, it looks like despite huge efforts, the advancement in robotics has been practically insignificant in the last 10 years, at least in the area of human-like locomotion.
I've been following this cup for 15 years... and honestly, improvements have been very minor during this period. I know it's a hard and challenging field (I'm a robotic engineer), but the developments in machine learning, computer vision and processors should have had a more obvious impact. The goal of defeating the human team in 2050 seemed realistic 15 years ago ; now it's just utopic.
Just as a comparison, humanoid robots at Robocup 2003.
th-cam.com/video/MVcDOSsdlu4/w-d-xo.htmlm39s
I'd say there might have been a little bit of progress ;)
What you share wasn't really the final match (with, normally, the best teams).... 15 years ago might be a little mean, but if you look at the finals 10 years ago, the difference is very little (th-cam.com/video/iMM_XQXJUUc/w-d-xo.html (2008) , th-cam.com/video/xjSm4nE5lcY/w-d-xo.html (2009) )
I would love to see a match between the algorithms 10 years ago and the ones today ; and I would love if they can prove I'm wrong
A few things that changed between the 2009 game and the 2018 one:
- blue and yellow goals got replaced by white ones (much harder to detect, also you can't tell by the goal color anymore which of the two goals you have to score in)
- orange ball was replaced by black and white ball (also much harder to detect since all other things on the field are black, white, or grey)
- field size got increased from 6x4 to 9x6 (makes localizing much harder and makes it more important to play as a team)
- 3 vs 3 became 5 vs 5 (increased need for team play to make sure there's exactly one robot handling the ball and the others don't run into each other)
- jerseys are completely custom, back then they were blue and red and made it much easier to detect and differentiate opponents and your own team
- the floor is now an 8mm artificial grass instead of a billiard table-like carpet which is a lot harder for walking
- robots have to now listen to the referee's whistle and don't get told over wifi when the game starts (and they have to make sure they don't react to the whistle on a neighbor field when there's a game running there, too)
Back in 2008 it was easy to get good results by just having the simplest strategy possible: turn around until you see a ball, if you do walk to it, when you're there turn around the ball until you see the blue or yellow goal, when you do shoot. By now you won't get far using that, you'll need a good team strategy.
There have also been a lot of improvements in terms of ball handling. You can see that the robots now are much quicker when they're close to the ball.
Also, considering that the servos and joints have stayed nearly the same we're moving much faster now on a much more difficult turf.
So in short: the algorithms from 10 years ago wouldn't be able to walk on the new field, they wouldn't know where they are because they lines are too far away, wouldn't know where the ball is and even if they hit it would have no idea which direction to shoot to.
Can your developers make the robots move faster and calculate faster...
Yes, we're improving speed all the time. You can check the World Championship 2018 final video th-cam.com/video/H8xc6LpiNVs/w-d-xo.html where we improved reaction time at the ball quite a lot.
For next year we'll have a new version of the robot with a faster processor that will hopefully increase speed further (though the servos are about the same, so overheating will still be a very limiting factor).
2:00 Zidane 2006
Augustin Siwanfa french ?
@@n_pcl1048 oui
HAHAHAHAHA
This was kind of sad
Still diving less than human players
wow these robots are amazing
i know right
no
@@rasmusgoth4213 yes
iT´S HAPPENING!
Are there any new improved models coming up soon?
3:12 6:27 Maradona
Why are their arms tucked toward the back of the waists? Is this done for better balance when moving or to reduce the likelyhood of fouling?
The second one. It also helps with keeping the hip joints save when falling backwards since they'll land on their fingers (and break those) instead of their hip. ;)
We like to think of it as Naruto style. ;) th-cam.com/video/pPeACdLYbDk/w-d-xo.html
That's the first thing I thought of when I noticed the arms behind them.
The yellow one is from Dortmund so the blue want is from where?
The blue team is from HTWK Leipzig in Germany
AWESOME
Judgement day... Soon!
i never knew this even existed!
Yeah you need to expand your horizons more
In 10:17 what happen? Arbiter sucks ;)
We (the blue team) were called for "pushing" the goalie, however the ball was between the robots, so it shouldn't have been a penalty... But our No 2 was close by and finished the job anyway :D
I think the goalie was simutating LOL
thx for explanation.
Hi.
Could you explain what are the teams responsible for? I mean, are the robots all equal in their programming?
All the teams are equal in their hardware (as in the robots are just bought from a company). However each team develops their own software. The robots need to act autonomously, there is no remote control. So each team needs to write software to make them walk (and not fall down), see the ball with the robot's cameras, see the field, the lines on the field, the other players, get a sense of direction so they know where on the field they are. Then they have to communicate (via Wifi) with their robot teammates and then try to find a good strategy as a team to win.
And all of this has to work together. If a single thing fails your robots can't play. Like if they can't detect the ball they can be the fastest robots but won't score a goal. Or if they are fast and can detect the ball but don't know where on the field they are they might even score into their own goal. ;)
Wow, this makes the thing even much more interesting! I know a little about game programming, I imagine how hard it is. Thank you!
Nossa, emocionante. kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
That some fine AI
Awesome
What is the os for the softonic robot?
The robots are running a Yocto Linux
@@HTWK.Robots 😊
so cool
In the future the robots will take revenge against us for laughing at this.
ITS FUNNING
Are they AI or controlled?
Fully autonomous. There's no remote control allowed during the whole game.
@@HTWK.Robots Holy fuck this is insane
OMG
que paliza
They kicked their ass
é muito fofo kkkk
1:02 In China when you disagree
lol
- From a shitless slave region of humanism being suffered under hoon-tribe-originated-parasitism and kiki'she' collectivism which is known as the name 'Korea', whose dwellers always steals and begs from Japan's original history which clearly inherited sincere humanity in Ancient Cudara more than its 'original' dwellers in hometown.
@@아홉시똥덩이떼몇달간 I hope you get the help you need
war doch klar dass die Dortmunder ne Klatsche bekommen
Was comparing this with robot football from 10 years ago - RoboCup 2008 given below: th-cam.com/video/-CKaJHd_Eis/w-d-xo.html
Hardly any difference that I could see. Based on this and similar evidence, it looks like despite huge efforts, the advancement in robotics has been practically insignificant in the last 10 years, at least in the area of human-like locomotion.
Que bizarro, os movimentos são tão lentos que vc fica lerdo assistindo isso!!kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Criança de 5 anos jogando futebol é igual a isso
0:34 Robonaldo.
Omg robot are real i will not doing any job..all will do robots
Künstliche Inkompetenz :)
lol is funny
There so slow
better than girls
Estan peor que hace 5 años ahora les pusieronlas manos atras.
creo que mejor son los robots artesanales.