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maybe a part 2 or second video but they couldve co existed in a world where lori dies. like rick walks him down hes about to stab him and sees the horde decides for them to work together and during the horde lori dies in a way that is neither of their faults
But if Rick was dead and dale dies from that walker soon anyhow then why would they have any reason to leave, Hershel would probably want them gone but I think Shane would beat them if Hershel did try to force them. But it’s just an opinion
And you're forgetting one very important thing. Negan told Rick later that his instinct was to kill Rick in that lineup instead of Abraham. The only reason he did not do that was because he didn't want to kill a father in front of his son. So, Shane would have been the one to die in that lineup and Abraham would have lived.
On top of that, I doubt Daryl would've attacked Negan since he didn't like Shane much, meaning Glenn would've survived, and Daryl wouldn't have been imprisoned by the Saviors.
I doubt that scene would have happened because Shane would have them take out the first group of saviors that tried to stop them. Rick just kept trying to go around but Shane would dropped that first small group and they've have been to get to hilltop and get Maggie help.
The main problem with this theory is that people wouldn't follow shane. At first, sure. But if Shanes at the farm without Rick to calm Hershel down. What happens? We know Glenn would side with Maggie and Hershel. Dale and Daryl didnt even like shane. Only person who liked shane was Andrea but that wouldn't be enough to gather support for Shane to be leader. As much as Rick changed over time, he could still be reasonable, which all leaders need. So even though there are times a leader cant be reasonable and has to have the final say. If you do that all the time, people will get fed up. Unless you take the Negan approach and scare people into staying. Shane's faults, lie in the the day to day duties of being a leader. When shit goes down, Shane is great. But you need to be a lot more than good in a fight to be a leader. Thats why Rick will always be a better leader than shane. Because Rick sees the bigger picture, while shane just sees whats right in front of him.
I agree with everything you said but I disagree with it being the main problem. I think its mostly comes down to the fact that Rick cares about the group while Shane only cares about Lori and Carl. Shane would gladly sacrifice anyone to save his "family" like he did Otis. Where Rick would never do that. Its even there main disagreements are about, saving Merle from the roof, going into town to save Hershel, saving that kid they captured.
Shane was all about heading to Ft. Benning. We learned in Season 4 that Ft. Benning was over run. I think that after "Shane Killed Rick" he would have pushed to that base and him and the group would have died in route or once they entered the base would have been over run by the Walkers.
Also, I think the last of the bunch from Fort Benning was that squad of guys that the Governor mowed down.. which indicates that they all survived pretty long. That Dave guy could have been a liar tho. There are closer military bases to Nebraska than Fort Benning. I guess it's left up to cannon & the imagination. Why travel from Nebraska to Georgia.. for a military base ?? It's nit picking I guess.
I think most realistic thing to happen is Rick talks Shane down, Shane helps the group leave the farm but gets separated. During that first winter, Shane joins the Governor. He either fights on the side of or turns on the Governor. Either way eventually re-joining the group. And throughout the seasons, with Lori gone, Shane Rick & Daryl would be really close with little to no conflict with one another. Shane would help Rick keep Carl alive after Lori's death.
Simply, Rick’s short comings are a result of him being a better leader. Shane was willing to do what he believed needed to be done with very little regard for others. The tightness of the group is because Rick was willing to work things out but ultimately would put his foot down and pull the trigger if needed. Shane would’ve fractured the group early and gotten everyone killed.
I agree and think Shane would have been a terrible leader because for one I think he wouldn’t have protected the group like it was his family if anyone challenged him or he just didn’t like them he would have killed them I mean he even tried to kill Rick in the woods his best friend or at the very least he thought about it before dale caught him. Shane was way too unhinged and yeah people are becoming fans of him now but people seem to be forgetting he had a lot of bad qualities and came off too evil he did a lot of unethical things
@@Mari-il4bw Just to add on, he was becoming unhinged largely because he could Not handle what it took to take another life, and that's fair. It shouldn't be easy. The guilt was eating him up, and if he had taken Ricks life, it would have significantly increased the groups likelihood of falling to his hands, if not his plans.
I think if shane lived we wouldn't of got the governor in season 3 coz Shane would of just killed him . And I think the same with Negan. I doubt he'd of let Negan live after what he did to glen. Come to think of it without the governor they might of just stayed in the prison. So in a way if shane did live The walking dead would of ended a lot sooner.
Literally all I can think of is the school run where he ended up shooting Odis? (can’t remember the characters name) so that he could make it out. Shane would’ve sacrificed so many people just to make it to the next day had he stayed alive. Lori still would’ve died and he would’ve been enraged at the group for being ‘negligent’
The only scenario where i could see Rick and Shane BOTH surviving, is if Shane decided to run off with Andrea, deciding for whatever reason decided Lori ain't worth it and/or Rick calming him down, and Shane unable to be around Rick and his family.
Shane would've joined the saviors or the claimers, I think that if he did join Woodbury that he would not like it because he wouldn't wanna be taking orders from the governor. Same goes with negan, but I believe Shane wouldn't mind it. The saviors have a lot of resources, Shane would know that if he did anything against negan that it would waste his opportunity. Shane would definitely join the claimers, it would be a rough start but when they point a gun at rick in s4e16 Shane would kill the claimers, and he would see rick bite Joe's throat out. Shane would love this side of rick, so much so that I think in s5 when rick started wearing the brown shirt, Shane would take his murder jacket. When rick spares negan, Shane would replace daryl in s9e4. Honestly I have no idea if shane would even make it to s9, i think he would be killed in the lineup.
With Rick out of the way Shane would've eliminated people he thought was too weak. With Shane the group would've never made it to the prison because he would've either eliminated them or they would leave of his leadership or lack thereof. The only people Shane cared about was Lori, himself, the baby, and Carl. To Shane everyone else could take a flying f_____. Another scenario is Shane and Darryl bucking heads or Darryl just leaving the broken group to go find his brother. I'll tell you another little tidbit as well and that is Shane was spent. He knew it, so he wanted Rick to kill him because he couldn't bring himself to kill Rick. If Shane was in the lead Carol would've never lived to be the character she became; because she would've been deemed to weak and Shane would've eliminated her behind the group's back and that's when Darryl who suspects what Shane did leaves the group to go find his brother. Shane is not a leader. He's a substitute teacher. With Shane as the leader they would've never met Negan. "Here we are folks back in fantasy land." See what I did there?
Lol what a load of bs. Where's the evidence that Shane would eliminate the crew and just drive off with Lori and Carl in the sunset. He's not the Governor just blindly killing innocent lives left and right.
@@1roundleft821 He gives up on people easily. Back at the original camp he gave up on the ones who were trapped in a mall. Shot Otis in the leg so he could survive. Rick or Darryl would've figured out a way to so they both came back alive. How many times did he tell Lori that her, the baby, and Carl are the only ones he cares about? Lets say he shoots Rick in the head and goes back to the house what kind of BS story do you think he'll tell? Oh and on the way there he'll meet Carl? What story do you think he'll tell? Randall killed Rick. Good luck to him with selling that one.
Nah y'all give Shane a bad rap. He wasn't evil, he would have lead the group just in a practical way. And he most likely would have mellowed out the opposite of Rick since he was already brutal
@@rickpowers3677 He didn't just give up on Otis. Otis had a wounded leg and if Shane stayed they both would've died, resulting in Carl's death too. And even if Shane decided to sacrifice himself and give Otis the medicine, Otis would've probably died too which would also lead to Carl dying. So the only option left was for Shane to sacrifice Otis and save Carl. What would you do in that situation like that with a guy you met like yesterday?
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Personally, I think Shane would’ve adopted some of ricks mindset kind of like Rick adopted Shane’s mindset in the later seasons. Rick and Shane are kind of like yin and Yang in the series. Shane adapted to the new world quickly but as time passes he will learn to become more middle grounded like Rick did.
Very good comment. It's sad that both didn't survive, but then that would have overshadowed Daryl anyway...and Norman is a fantastic actor. Too good to not see.
Now I'm really excited for walking dead destinies. Its a new game coming out with action gameplay mixed with Telltale decisions, the player rewrites seasons 1-4, what-if style. The biggest of which from the trailer yesterday, was Shane killing Rick during their confrontation. I think Shane will have no choice but to adapt to Rick's way of thinking, otherwise the group will collapse.
What made Shane lost his mind, is that for him Lori was his woman already, and then see her again with his best friend who he thought was dead, of course it would drive him crazy. But he was a good man, turned savage, but good man.
@@wevertonpereira21 Agree. The point is that Shane went too impulsive with a lot of things and it would break up the group eventually. It has a good side of course if you are capable of making hard decisions very quick but it is also a huge unnecesary risk. Shane was strong but too impulsive. At the start Rick was a bit weak but he always used his mind and thinking carefully what to do. They did a good job kiling the walkers in the barn but he also made a huge risk to open it uncontrolled and emotional. I wish Shane was still alive and would be best friends with Rick.
Only problem is I dont think people would of followed Shane, and I think Daryl would of probably figured out Shane killed Rick. Best alternate situation for Shane and Rick is Shane left with or without Andrea back in season 2 like they'd planed and then a spin off of some sort or maybe just a random re-appearance from them in like season 6 or 7, maybe as a part of Negans group.
Wow I love this! Except I don’t think the group as a whole would’ve wanted to follow Shane after the farm. Especially without Rick & Andrea. & I also think Shane would’ve had a reverse Rick & eventually learned to see the bigger picture while being able to revert back to “Crazy Shane” like Rick does with “Crazy Rick” he definitely would’ve started the Negan beef the exact same way but if Carl died he definitely would’ve killed Negan. Great video!
I think realistically Shane would break after killing Rick at some point after, not right then but the guilt would haunt him. Shane was ahead of the curve because he knew how to get things done but it also was his detriment as he mentally wasn’t good with doing what needed to be done and so he likely goes off the deep end after the prison
unrelated rant: I feel like T-dog and later Tyrese are such under used characters in the story that get treated as background characters (especially T-dog) I would have loved seeing those two interact on screen they seem like they'd get along and would make Tyrese a hardened survivor so he wouldn't get his fitting/annoying death so soon and actually have a long story arc.
Apparently T-dog was meant to be a more prevalent character but the actor was unreliable and would be late to filming so they ended up killing him off and going with carol being a more main character instead
@@TheBigsby111 I love what they did with Carol making her from abused housewife to badass but man I wish the show would have had less arguments/disagreements with actors from season 1 the original season 1-2 cast was so awesome.
I don’t believe Shane’s presence would be all the good endings your proposed. I strongly doubt Shane had the leadership skills as he devolved to hold the group together. They would have splintered and died one by one alone in a world that desperately required Alliances to survive. But maybe I just hate everything about Shane. Team Grimes for sure.
I think that if both Rick and Shane had survived and were in agreement most of the time, Shane most likely would've been the one getting lucilled by Negan instead of Glenn or Abraham, and it would've had the same impact...maybe more so
I think one fatal flaw of thinking about "what if said character still lived" is that people generally expect that they were going to stay the way the were the last time we see them. Shane could've changed if he was still alive, and i don't think he would've stay the brutal practical leader type that he was. I like to think that maybe he would've have opposite arcs with Rick. When we're introduced to Alexandria, maybe he would've followed the rules and stayed out of trouble. I don't know. It's just kinda boring to imagine Shane just staying like his season 2 version forever.
Shane surviving woulda changed Andreas death, actually that would be one of the main changes. Andrea had a thing for Shane after they hooked up, so she wouldn’t have stayed in Woodberry with Governor and probably dipped out with Machonne
Tbh in regards to the governor I feel like either Shane, Andrea and Michonne would’ve just kept on their way or Shane and the governor would’ve been good pals
Same. What for me hurts the most is he survived so long, despite never really been given much to do and when do they kill him? Shortly before Merle briefly rejoins the group! Such a missed opportunity to revisit the drama on the rooftop from season 1.
Shane is one of my favorite characters for sure but I feel like he wouldn't of gotten too far if he lived lol. I know this is hypothetical but hypothetically speaking if he lived he wouldn't of attracted any allies . Woulda probably had some successful fights with humans / walkers and then by season 5-6 he be dead. Prob in the complete opposite direction of where Rick brought the group. He just a "blueprint" for Rick to enhance his survival and of the group. He was important to that degree no more. Shane wouldnt of learned anything from Rick if he surivived other then "SCREWING MAH WIFEEE"
George I've had to pause this halfway through to come down here and tell you that this is one of the best YT video's I've ever seen. Top class concept and storytelling, show knowledge, and also your editing to make shane have conversations with people 5+ seasons away from him is incredible, thank you for this video
Even though Shane’s arc was short, it was pretty much PERFECT but I would’ve LOVED to have seen what might’ve been had he survived until their initial encounters with the Governor and Negan.
Since shane was a lot like season 5 wild rick, I don't think Negan would mess with him because in the show when negan watches the video that deanna took of s5 rick he said he wouldn't have messed with rick if he was like that still
Always said this. And Shane would’ve realized that he needs the group to help keep Carl and Judith safe. That was Shane’s group from the beginning. And they followed Shane when he wanted to open the barn. Even when Rick was against it.they would’ve became who they are now faster. And probably would’ve took over Woodbury early on
@@conradwilliams5870 Bruh that is incorrect. When the walkers came out of the barn they had no choice to help Shane killing the zombies. No shit they helped Shane with the zombies. They would have been killed by the governor if they tried to take over Woodbury. Woodbury had way more people and they wouldnt have won against them in an attack.
ive always been bothered by how lil they care when they find tdogs been bitten then find his body.... but then i remember how tdog wanted to leave the group on multiple occasions lol
I think seeing shane run off on his own and come back later on the show in simons position with the saviors would be cool. Then maybe he betrays the saviors and goes back with the group or something
One big thing i think has been overlooked is shane didnt want to go back for anyone that got seperated from the group rick was the one that wanted to save everyone shane would have left everyone to die except lori and carl
Realistically, I think if Shane had killed Rick they never would’ve made it to Alexandrea. I think his recklessness would’ve gotten people killed and the truth about that night with Rick would’ve come out sooner or later and from that point on there’s no respect for Shane and there’s fear so he either would’ve been abandoned, killed, or his sheer recklessness would’ve gotten them all killed
I don't know if I could really picture Shane surviving past their final encounter because he was too impulsive, Rick couldn't have lived alongside him knowing that Judith was Shane's and with Lori still alive, though I do think that if Shane had lived he would've handled Phillip, Alpha, and Negan a lot earlier than Rick did
One thing about the governor, he always was calculating moves even if Shane had live and gave me on the way to go was gonna just come back and take the prison or he would’ve seen a sign of weakness
It still bothers me that they killed him off and then have Merle rejoin the group briefly. Imagine the awesome callbacks to the rooftop. T-Dog insisting that the group has nothing to do with 'that bigot who beat him up' and Merle also wanting revenge for T-Dog and the key and him having to saw his arm off.
I'd kill to see this happen or even Shane lowering the gun and Rick sparing his life. I know its tough to think of it but Shane would've been like Merle, wanting to fight and ambush the governor and everything. Who knows, maybe if that happened it could've been Shane and Merle teaming up to ambush the governor. Maybe they could've succeeded or possibly died.
I kinda disagree on the Negan part. I think Shane would relate with him, as they're quite similar, they're both good people who cracked under the pressure of the apocalypse and came on the other side twisted but still having some kind of sense of justice, even tho again, that's twisted too, Negan with his rules and Shane still acting like a cop.
@westonmeyer3110 you think Shane wouldn't have been threatening him the night Glenn died? lmfao Negan would have totally offed him around the same time while everyone was kneeling. He would see him as a rabid dog needing to be put down.
Would have been brilliant as he was one of my favourite characters and still peeves me off they killed him.But personally i would have preferred rick to open his eyes in the hopsital at the commonweatlth and he sees Shane standing there who had left the group years ago instead of being killed to end up joining the commonwealth
Shane would have been really off of the deep end if he was still around. He lost it in S2. He was ahead of the group as far as "what needs to be done " but he compromised the group, almost getting them kicked off of the farm multiple times because he didn't think, he was too hot headed. He wanted Lori for himself, and Carl willing to kill his best friend over them. Being with them and leader wouldn't have been enough. He didn't plan, see things that were coming, he wouldn't have saved members of the group in trouble, but he would have left them. He wanted to leave Sophia, Think if that was your child... The group wouldn't have survived. He was more Gun ho than Rick, but Rick's patience and way of reading people and foreseeing and planning saved the group.
I’d never expect this but what if there was like a mini comic series where Shane killed Rick and led the group, but they just go over how different the main plot points in TWD would be. Maybe some situations are avoided, some worse off than the true story.
Faults and all aside I think Shane surviving would have shown more about his past and former relationships which may shed light on the love for his friend to try and save him and then to at least make sure he saves ricks family knowing the odds of rick survivg the hospital was slim he then assume ricks position more as a place of honor, duty, and respect as that is what it was at first and its hard to fall out of love with someone especially given the circumstances stances. And lori messing with Shane's head on the farm would lead well into Lori's comic book death which I agree with and shane getting over it fast bc she was essentially the reason he had to kill his best friend. Despite ricks objectively bad decisions up until the prison and regardless of what anyone says shane was the most realistic. Anyone of us would do anything to save our child and in the zombie apocalypse your head state would cause you ondo things you would bash Shane for. Rick far exceeded Shane in dark casualness by the time they got to the prison. Shane wasnt always a bad guy. But he was always an anti hero. And that is the objectively therealest image of who would survive. There are no good or bad guys.. its just those who are willing to do what it takes to survive and then those who enjoy it. But then again Shane and Lori could have just been having an affair before the walkers came 😅
Saying Shane would get over Lori quick is not realistic. He literally went crazy and was willing to kill his best friend because of his love for Lori. If anything, I think her death would have put him over the edge in a different way, such as him going ballistic against the Governor, which she dies in the comics based on his ambush, and then Shane losing it towards the Gov would be the downfall of the rest of his group, because he'd probably be quicker to sacrifice any of his group aside from Lori and Carl.
Man I miss how good this show was. Shane and Rick were the perfect duo for this series it’s a shame Shane dies in season 2 but for good reason it’s crazy how even later in the good seasons with Rick you would still think about Shane from time to time even tho he’s gone
In this theory I sometimes wonder although his main motive will be to protect Lori and Carl, I feel like something in Shane’s brain wasn’t ticking right. I wonder if eventually with all the killing he would’ve done and trauma he’ll endure if he would even start to feel as if Lori, a baby, and a kid Carl were “a burden”and would just end up not caring and worry more about what will keep him alive 🤔🤔
lost me at point (not that shane would have brought the group to prison at all) where you say Hershel would still be alive if Shane was in charge. Hershel WAS only alive because Rick saved him. Why skip that important part?
i think they'd be able to "coexist" if rick never made it to the camp, still searching Atlanta, ended up being in the hospital that with the other cops that were led by dawn, in that instance, i dont think the group would of found the prison, they would of gone to fort benning instead of cdc, maybe wouldnt of lost jackie, maybe not have lost amy, probably wouldnt of met hershal and family, never lost otis, carl wouldn't of gotten shot, might of met completly different people, maybe have gotten rid of negan early in the series...
No way would the group follow Shane after season 2. They’d definitely put two and two together after Glenn and Daryl reveal what happened to Randall, the only person who even liked was Carl at that point. It’d be a better idea to have him survive a fight with Rick with a serious injury, run into the woods and be found by Michonne, Andrea is not left at the farm (or maybe she is or maybe she dies) and they stick together until Woodberry where Shane becomes a trusted enforcer for the Governor
Can you make what if: Shane never loved Lori ( means Rick and Shane could be friends through the series ) woodbury / the governor never existed the bridge in season 9 was never worked on eugene never said he doesnt know a cure and they went to dc instead of the humans eating humans in season 5 they somehow find Negans group in Season 5 and join them I think they would be the most interesting ones which changed the story the most
And btw this video was not really a what if because the story did not change. You only said what Shane would do in Ricks position. I think the biggest story changes would have started at season 5. Shane would have killed all the people at Sanctuary and take it over instead of going in for help, protect it like the Prison. They never would have gotten to Alexandria and everything what happend after
I wonder if daryl would have followed shane like he did Rick. I feel like Shane and daryl may have ended up being in a similar situation as Shane and Rick and fought to the death as well
I like this what if, but in all honesty you weren’t taking a lot of creative liberties which led to it falling flat at most points. This video is basically summed up as “what if Shane did exactly as Rick did”.
Michonne likely wouldn't have reached the prison since if Lori was alive they wouldn't have needed to go on the formula run and now I'm going down the entire rabbit hole
If she had trouble producing milk for the baby they might have still needed the formula run. She would’ve lost a lot of blood, probably been unconscious for a long time and probably hasn’t been eating/drinking enough to produce so it’s very likely that still would’ve happened.
This just all assumes things don't happen that we KNOW of, but doesn't account for anything we do NOT know of. For sure people wouldn't follow Shane the way they did Rick, that impact could be massive.
God I wish this was a show it has so much good shit to offer. I’ve always thought of a bunch of what if scenarios, like what if Rick and Daryl never met Jesus? What if Rick was awake during the outbreak? What if Morgan and Duane did go with Rick to Atlanta? SO MUCH POTENTIAL!!
If Shane killed Rick I still don’t think he would be with the group. Because of both Carl and Darly. Carl will appear in of Shane like in the original saying his name. He will see Shane’s gun drawn, then see his dad dead on the floor he slowly process what’s happen. Shane tries to make Carl believe him by lying to him. Carl then pulls out his gun asking Shane why did he do it? Shane is a lost for words. Carl either kills Shane like in the original, expect he’s not a walker and returns back to the house announcing. Shane killed Rick and he killed Shane. Or Carl turns around and runs away back to the house as Shane runs after him yelling him to stop. Carl makes it back to the house crying telling Lori that Shane killed Rick. Now second scenario Daryl. Lets say Carl believed whatever lie Shane told him after escaping the heard, everyone will be asking Shane’s where’s Rick? Shane acts the Same way Rick did not saying anything. Daryl will speak saying he killed him because the the last they saw Rick he was with Shane when looking for Randal. Glenn will back saying he remembers they were together as well. This will cause a conflict between the group screaming and arguing at each other. Lori asks Shane directly if he killed Rick. Shane will mutter yes but try to justify it saying he tried to kill him first, Carl will break down crying and everyone else will be shock. Darly will tell everyone follow him and leave him.Shane continues trying to convince the group Lori slaps Shane,telling him don’t follow us as she comforts a crying Carl. The group walks away as Shane is left the standing by himself rubbing his head.
I actually think Shane would have gotten along with Michonne because Michonne was hella badass and practical and good for the groups survival and Shane was all about😅
Rick dying instead of Shane is the most boring option. Like Shane leaves and the show becomes about 2 separate groups of survivors who occasionally have interactions but have their own separate problems. Like keep Shane’s group somewhere in the deeper south, maybe Florida or Louisiana or something. After Rick breaks under Negan’s threats to Carl he has to go to Shane for help.
If Shane lovers actually thought about they would know that Shane would be with the bikers that claim shit. I mean look how fast he claimed Lori and Carl and how he thought Lori didn't have a choice.
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Cool idea but shane would have died that same night he killed rick because of carl shooting him then carl dies then everyone else dies
maybe a part 2 or second video but they couldve co existed in a world where lori dies. like rick walks him down hes about to stab him and sees the horde decides for them to work together and during the horde lori dies in a way that is neither of their faults
Could you do a what if beth survived?
Shane wouldve killed negan. What are you smoking???
The most realistic would be shane and andrea leaving and following their story seperately
But if Rick was dead and dale dies from that walker soon anyhow then why would they have any reason to leave, Hershel would probably want them gone but I think Shane would beat them if Hershel did try to force them. But it’s just an opinion
@@AnakinSnow-bb2sg because in the show Shane and Andrea were already considering leaving
Rick was never a real man anyway
@@South_0f_Heaven_ bru what are you on
Shane would never leave Carl behind
Imagine how many more head rubs and "Lemme Tell U Sumthin" we would get throughout all 13+ seasons. Now I want a reboot.
Or "They're in the wooooooods's" when the Whisperers came.
Yao yes sir
YEAH.....
I believe the exact quote is: "Lemme Tell U Sumthin Mean Gene/Brother"
@@HepCatJacklol 😂😂
And you're forgetting one very important thing. Negan told Rick later that his instinct was to kill Rick in that lineup instead of Abraham. The only reason he did not do that was because he didn't want to kill a father in front of his son. So, Shane would have been the one to die in that lineup and Abraham would have lived.
On top of that, I doubt Daryl would've attacked Negan since he didn't like Shane much, meaning Glenn would've survived, and Daryl wouldn't have been imprisoned by the Saviors.
True story
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I doubt that scene would have happened because Shane would have them take out the first group of saviors that tried to stop them. Rick just kept trying to go around but Shane would dropped that first small group and they've have been to get to hilltop and get Maggie help.
@@CL053DC45K37then it would’ve been a war at hilltop, which ultimately is better than that line up
The main problem with this theory is that people wouldn't follow shane. At first, sure. But if Shanes at the farm without Rick to calm Hershel down. What happens? We know Glenn would side with Maggie and Hershel. Dale and Daryl didnt even like shane. Only person who liked shane was Andrea but that wouldn't be enough to gather support for Shane to be leader.
As much as Rick changed over time, he could still be reasonable, which all leaders need. So even though there are times a leader cant be reasonable and has to have the final say. If you do that all the time, people will get fed up. Unless you take the Negan approach and scare people into staying.
Shane's faults, lie in the the day to day duties of being a leader. When shit goes down, Shane is great. But you need to be a lot more than good in a fight to be a leader. Thats why Rick will always be a better leader than shane. Because Rick sees the bigger picture, while shane just sees whats right in front of him.
Very nice explanation 👍
I agree with everything you said but I disagree with it being the main problem. I think its mostly comes down to the fact that Rick cares about the group while Shane only cares about Lori and Carl. Shane would gladly sacrifice anyone to save his "family" like he did Otis. Where Rick would never do that. Its even there main disagreements are about, saving Merle from the roof, going into town to save Hershel, saving that kid they captured.
I mean, yeah, he wouldn't be able to lead the group, but does it really matter much? Shane is a survivor, he'd be just fine without them
Very well said... especially the part about Dale and Daryl not liking Shane. I didn't think of that. 👍🏾
Thank you bro, you said it perfect.
Shane was all about heading to Ft. Benning. We learned in Season 4 that Ft. Benning was over run. I think that after "Shane Killed Rick" he would have pushed to that base and him and the group would have died in route or once they entered the base would have been over run by the Walkers.
True. And ye's the type to sacrifice everyone and anyone to "keep Lori and Carl safe" so eventually it would have been just them 4 imo
In season 2 Dave said that Ft. Benning was over run not season 4
It was season 2 we found out Ft. Benning fell, when Rick shot the guys at the bar
Also, I think the last of the bunch from Fort Benning was that squad of guys that the Governor mowed down.. which indicates that they all survived pretty long. That Dave guy could have been a liar tho. There are closer military bases to Nebraska than Fort Benning. I guess it's left up to cannon & the imagination. Why travel from Nebraska to Georgia.. for a military base ?? It's nit picking I guess.
Na they wouldn’t die they would have gotten trough it somehow 😂 gotta continue the series
I think most realistic thing to happen is Rick talks Shane down, Shane helps the group leave the farm but gets separated. During that first winter, Shane joins the Governor. He either fights on the side of or turns on the Governor. Either way eventually re-joining the group. And throughout the seasons, with Lori gone, Shane Rick & Daryl would be really close with little to no conflict with one another. Shane would help Rick keep Carl alive after Lori's death.
I know right
Bro what
If Shane and Rick co existed and got along they would of been unstoppable. Imagine a team of Rick, Shane, Darryl, and Merril
Abraham and tyree added = unstoppable
@@rickyjayster2586 & T Dog
and ed
ah my favourite character merril and darril is a close second
@@dumbusername3305what the hell is ed gonna do?? Harm Carol?💀💀
Simply, Rick’s short comings are a result of him being a better leader. Shane was willing to do what he believed needed to be done with very little regard for others. The tightness of the group is because Rick was willing to work things out but ultimately would put his foot down and pull the trigger if needed. Shane would’ve fractured the group early and gotten everyone killed.
I agree and think Shane would have been a terrible leader because for one I think he wouldn’t have protected the group like it was his family if anyone challenged him or he just didn’t like them he would have killed them I mean he even tried to kill Rick in the woods his best friend or at the very least he thought about it before dale caught him. Shane was way too unhinged and yeah people are becoming fans of him now but people seem to be forgetting he had a lot of bad qualities and came off too evil he did a lot of unethical things
@@Mari-il4bw Just to add on, he was becoming unhinged largely because he could Not handle what it took to take another life, and that's fair. It shouldn't be easy. The guilt was eating him up, and if he had taken Ricks life, it would have significantly increased the groups likelihood of falling to his hands, if not his plans.
Prolly they all would be the dead when the horde attacked the camp, if it weren't for Rick's weapons.
I think if shane lived we wouldn't of got the governor in season 3 coz Shane would of just killed him .
And I think the same with Negan. I doubt he'd of let Negan live after what he did to glen.
Come to think of it without the governor they might of just stayed in the prison.
So in a way if shane did live
The walking dead would of ended a lot sooner.
Literally all I can think of is the school run where he ended up shooting Odis? (can’t remember the characters name) so that he could make it out. Shane would’ve sacrificed so many people just to make it to the next day had he stayed alive. Lori still would’ve died and he would’ve been enraged at the group for being ‘negligent’
The only scenario where i could see Rick and Shane BOTH surviving, is if Shane decided to run off with Andrea, deciding for whatever reason decided Lori ain't worth it and/or Rick calming him down, and Shane unable to be around Rick and his family.
Shane would've joined the saviors or the claimers, I think that if he did join Woodbury that he would not like it because he wouldn't wanna be taking orders from the governor. Same goes with negan, but I believe Shane wouldn't mind it. The saviors have a lot of resources, Shane would know that if he did anything against negan that it would waste his opportunity. Shane would definitely join the claimers, it would be a rough start but when they point a gun at rick in s4e16 Shane would kill the claimers, and he would see rick bite Joe's throat out. Shane would love this side of rick, so much so that I think in s5 when rick started wearing the brown shirt, Shane would take his murder jacket. When rick spares negan, Shane would replace daryl in s9e4. Honestly I have no idea if shane would even make it to s9, i think he would be killed in the lineup.
With Rick out of the way Shane would've eliminated people he thought was too weak. With Shane the group would've never made it to the prison because he would've either eliminated them or they would leave of his leadership or lack thereof. The only people Shane cared about was Lori, himself, the baby, and Carl. To Shane everyone else could take a flying f_____. Another scenario is Shane and Darryl bucking heads or Darryl just leaving the broken group to go find his brother. I'll tell you another little tidbit as well and that is Shane was spent. He knew it, so he wanted Rick to kill him because he couldn't bring himself to kill Rick. If Shane was in the lead Carol would've never lived to be the character she became; because she would've been deemed to weak and Shane would've eliminated her behind the group's back and that's when Darryl who suspects what Shane did leaves the group to go find his brother. Shane is not a leader. He's a substitute teacher. With Shane as the leader they would've never met Negan. "Here we are folks back in fantasy land." See what I did there?
Lol what a load of bs. Where's the evidence that Shane would eliminate the crew and just drive off with Lori and Carl in the sunset. He's not the Governor just blindly killing innocent lives left and right.
@@1roundleft821 He gives up on people easily. Back at the original camp he gave up on the ones who were trapped in a mall. Shot Otis in the leg so he could survive. Rick or Darryl would've figured out a way to so they both came back alive. How many times did he tell Lori that her, the baby, and Carl are the only ones he cares about? Lets say he shoots Rick in the head and goes back to the house what kind of BS story do you think he'll tell? Oh and on the way there he'll meet Carl? What story do you think he'll tell? Randall killed Rick. Good luck to him with selling that one.
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Nah y'all give Shane a bad rap. He wasn't evil, he would have lead the group just in a practical way. And he most likely would have mellowed out the opposite of Rick since he was already brutal
@@rickpowers3677 He didn't just give up on Otis. Otis had a wounded leg and if Shane stayed they both would've died, resulting in Carl's death too. And even if Shane decided to sacrifice himself and give Otis the medicine, Otis would've probably died too which would also lead to Carl dying. So the only option left was for Shane to sacrifice Otis and save Carl. What would you do in that situation like that with a guy you met like yesterday?
This is my first video of yours and the minute T-Dog yelled "What the hell is that?" and it was Negan with a whisperer mask.... I lost it and you earned a subscriber XD
I used to hate your videos bc it’s all hypothetical, but I now have a profound appreciation for your videos. Your brain busting out all of these ideas with the amount of videos you push out impresses me. I’m here to say, you impress me. Awesome videos brother
I remember when you used to put out SO much content. It impressed me. I just thought you should hear some positive feedback
@@lonezome understandable
Personally, I think Shane would’ve adopted some of ricks mindset kind of like Rick adopted Shane’s mindset in the later seasons. Rick and Shane are kind of like yin and Yang in the series. Shane adapted to the new world quickly but as time passes he will learn to become more middle grounded like Rick did.
Very good comment. It's sad that both didn't survive, but then that would have overshadowed Daryl anyway...and Norman is a fantastic actor. Too good to not see.
@@315katty What you mean Rick is still alive
Now I'm really excited for walking dead destinies. Its a new game coming out with action gameplay mixed with Telltale decisions, the player rewrites seasons 1-4, what-if style. The biggest of which from the trailer yesterday, was Shane killing Rick during their confrontation. I think Shane will have no choice but to adapt to Rick's way of thinking, otherwise the group will collapse.
What made Shane lost his mind, is that for him Lori was his woman already, and then see her again with his best friend who he thought was dead, of course it would drive him crazy. But he was a good man, turned savage, but good man.
@@wevertonpereira21 Agree. The point is that Shane went too impulsive with a lot of things and it would break up the group eventually. It has a good side of course if you are capable of making hard decisions very quick but it is also a huge unnecesary risk. Shane was strong but too impulsive. At the start Rick was a bit weak but he always used his mind and thinking carefully what to do. They did a good job kiling the walkers in the barn but he also made a huge risk to open it uncontrolled and emotional. I wish Shane was still alive and would be best friends with Rick.
Narrator: Carol would never hurt a kid
Carol: Turn around and look at the flowers.
My thoughts exactly😂😂
Also Carol *Threatens to tie a kid to a tree for the walkers*
I think Shane would had been another Negan but maybe worse somehow. I must admit Shane was the most realistic of all.
Only problem is I dont think people would of followed Shane, and I think Daryl would of probably figured out Shane killed Rick. Best alternate situation for Shane and Rick is Shane left with or without Andrea back in season 2 like they'd planed and then a spin off of some sort or maybe just a random re-appearance from them in like season 6 or 7, maybe as a part of Negans group.
Wow I love this! Except I don’t think the group as a whole would’ve wanted to follow Shane after the farm. Especially without Rick & Andrea. & I also think Shane would’ve had a reverse Rick & eventually learned to see the bigger picture while being able to revert back to “Crazy Shane” like Rick does with “Crazy Rick” he definitely would’ve started the Negan beef the exact same way but if Carl died he definitely would’ve killed Negan. Great video!
One of the things I’d love to see adapted into a what if type episode or mini series.
That is what Tales of the Walking Dead should have been rather than a steaming pile 💩.
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I think realistically Shane would break after killing Rick at some point after, not right then but the guilt would haunt him.
Shane was ahead of the curve because he knew how to get things done but it also was his detriment as he mentally wasn’t good with doing what needed to be done and so he likely goes off the deep end after the prison
I like to think that even Rick didn't stab him on that hill, Shane would just shoot himself.
unrelated rant: I feel like T-dog and later Tyrese are such under used characters in the story that get treated as background characters (especially T-dog) I would have loved seeing those two interact on screen they seem like they'd get along and would make Tyrese a hardened survivor so he wouldn't get his fitting/annoying death so soon and actually have a long story arc.
Apparently T-dog was meant to be a more prevalent character but the actor was unreliable and would be late to filming so they ended up killing him off and going with carol being a more main character instead
There's always room for corrections.
Tyrese from the comics is a much more utilized character. I don’t know what the writers were thinking but TV tyrese is a name only kind of character.
Love T-dog and Tyrese 😢
@@TheBigsby111 I love what they did with Carol making her from abused housewife to badass but man I wish the show would have had less arguments/disagreements with actors from season 1 the original season 1-2 cast was so awesome.
I don’t believe Shane’s presence would be all the good endings your proposed. I strongly doubt Shane had the leadership skills as he devolved to hold the group together. They would have splintered and died one by one alone in a world that desperately required Alliances to survive. But maybe I just hate everything about Shane. Team Grimes for sure.
The hit marker into Let her Go was hilarious
I think that if both Rick and Shane had survived and were in agreement most of the time, Shane most likely would've been the one getting lucilled by Negan instead of Glenn or Abraham, and it would've had the same impact...maybe more so
I know right
I think one fatal flaw of thinking about "what if said character still lived" is that people generally expect that they were going to stay the way the were the last time we see them. Shane could've changed if he was still alive, and i don't think he would've stay the brutal practical leader type that he was. I like to think that maybe he would've have opposite arcs with Rick. When we're introduced to Alexandria, maybe he would've followed the rules and stayed out of trouble. I don't know. It's just kinda boring to imagine Shane just staying like his season 2 version forever.
So True, gotta put that into consideration but it's definitely a toss up because he could've even became worse than season 2.
Shane surviving woulda changed Andreas death, actually that would be one of the main changes. Andrea had a thing for Shane after they hooked up, so she wouldn’t have stayed in Woodberry with Governor and probably dipped out with Machonne
Tbh in regards to the governor I feel like either Shane, Andrea and Michonne would’ve just kept on their way or Shane and the governor would’ve been good pals
T dogs death still hurts me… I like carol but t dog would’ve been much better
Same.
What for me hurts the most is he survived so long, despite never really been given much to do and when do they kill him? Shortly before Merle briefly rejoins the group!
Such a missed opportunity to revisit the drama on the rooftop from season 1.
You should do what if Merle survived I always wanted to see Merle and Negan meet that was a missed opportunity
Shane is one of my favorite characters for sure but I feel like he wouldn't of gotten too far if he lived lol. I know this is hypothetical but hypothetically speaking if he lived he wouldn't of attracted any allies . Woulda probably had some successful fights with humans / walkers and then by season 5-6 he be dead. Prob in the complete opposite direction of where Rick brought the group. He just a "blueprint" for Rick to enhance his survival and of the group. He was important to that degree no more. Shane wouldnt of learned anything from Rick if he surivived other then "SCREWING MAH WIFEEE"
George I've had to pause this halfway through to come down here and tell you that this is one of the best YT video's I've ever seen. Top class concept and storytelling, show knowledge, and also your editing to make shane have conversations with people 5+ seasons away from him is incredible, thank you for this video
I doubt you will ever see this but if you do, a "what if Rick didnt wake up" video would be incredible
Even though Shane’s arc was short, it was pretty much PERFECT but I would’ve LOVED to have seen what might’ve been had he survived until their initial encounters with the Governor and Negan.
Since shane was a lot like season 5 wild rick, I don't think Negan would mess with him because in the show when negan watches the video that deanna took of s5 rick he said he wouldn't have messed with rick if he was like that still
Lori still had a pretty high chance of dying in childbirth either way honestly
Always said this. And Shane would’ve realized that he needs the group to help keep Carl and Judith safe. That was Shane’s group from the beginning. And they followed Shane when he wanted to open the barn. Even when Rick was against it.they would’ve became who they are now faster. And probably would’ve took over Woodbury early on
@@conradwilliams5870 Bruh that is incorrect. When the walkers came out of the barn they had no choice to help Shane killing the zombies. No shit they helped Shane with the zombies. They would have been killed by the governor if they tried to take over Woodbury. Woodbury had way more people and they wouldnt have won against them in an attack.
ive always been bothered by how lil they care when they find tdogs been bitten then find his body.... but then i remember how tdog wanted to leave the group on multiple occasions lol
I think seeing shane run off on his own and come back later on the show in simons position with the saviors would be cool. Then maybe he betrays the saviors and goes back with the group or something
One big thing i think has been overlooked is shane didnt want to go back for anyone that got seperated from the group rick was the one that wanted to save everyone shane would have left everyone to die except lori and carl
I would love to see this animated. I know they can't bring all the actors back, but that would be an awesome, at least miniseries.
Realistically, I think if Shane had killed Rick they never would’ve made it to Alexandrea. I think his recklessness would’ve gotten people killed and the truth about that night with Rick would’ve come out sooner or later and from that point on there’s no respect for Shane and there’s fear so he either would’ve been abandoned, killed, or his sheer recklessness would’ve gotten them all killed
I don't know if I could really picture Shane surviving past their final encounter because he was too impulsive, Rick couldn't have lived alongside him knowing that Judith was Shane's and with Lori still alive, though I do think that if Shane had lived he would've handled Phillip, Alpha, and Negan a lot earlier than Rick did
One thing about the governor, he always was calculating moves even if Shane had live and gave me on the way to go was gonna just come back and take the prison or he would’ve seen a sign of weakness
This is one of the best videos I’ve watched in six months
Oddly specific bruv
I wish shane lived he is my favorite character in twd
T-Dog such a great character. Miss him.
It still bothers me that they killed him off and then have Merle rejoin the group briefly.
Imagine the awesome callbacks to the rooftop. T-Dog insisting that the group has nothing to do with 'that bigot who beat him up' and Merle also wanting revenge for T-Dog and the key and him having to saw his arm off.
You should have done it where the timeline starts with Shane LEAVING with the prisoner at the barn. Then comes back at the lineup OR Woodbury 😮😮
"I'll have you know that [Carol] would never hurt a child"
??? She literally kills 1 and psychologically tortures another.
"say those two magical words"
"shut up"
sent me
I'd kill to see this happen or even Shane lowering the gun and Rick sparing his life. I know its tough to think of it but Shane would've been like Merle, wanting to fight and ambush the governor and everything. Who knows, maybe if that happened it could've been Shane and Merle teaming up to ambush the governor. Maybe they could've succeeded or possibly died.
Please do an entire video on T dog , not much is known about the character
I really loved this video!! Shane is one of my favorites, I really wish he was in the show longer! So this was great to explore, thank you!
"He's been with Andrea before."
*insert start of Michonne laugh*
Man, you killed me XD I nearly choked to death on my cigarette.
I kinda disagree on the Negan part. I think Shane would relate with him, as they're quite similar, they're both good people who cracked under the pressure of the apocalypse and came on the other side twisted but still having some kind of sense of justice, even tho again, that's twisted too, Negan with his rules and Shane still acting like a cop.
Negan would have killed him trust me. Shane was too much of a threat
@@TheRomanTribune maybe, tho he kept... Simon was it? around, and that dude was a wildcard
@@ogcipher4967realistically Simon would’ve killed him
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I doubt it. Shane would be too useful and Negan doesn’t kill people who aren’t threatening him.
@westonmeyer3110 you think Shane wouldn't have been threatening him the night Glenn died? lmfao
Negan would have totally offed him around the same time while everyone was kneeling. He would see him as a rabid dog needing to be put down.
Would have been brilliant as he was one of my favourite characters and still peeves me off they killed him.But personally i would have preferred rick to open his eyes in the hopsital at the commonweatlth and he sees Shane standing there who had left the group years ago instead of being killed to end up joining the commonwealth
WELCOME BACK GEORGE DRAKE. amazing video as always 🔥🔥🔥keep it up brother
Swear man t dog was always one of my favorite characters
How if he was a background character
Shane would have been really off of the deep end if he was still around. He lost it in S2. He was ahead of the group as far as "what needs to be done " but he compromised the group, almost getting them kicked off of the farm multiple times because he didn't think, he was too hot headed. He wanted Lori for himself, and Carl willing to kill his best friend over them. Being with them and leader wouldn't have been enough. He didn't plan, see things that were coming, he wouldn't have saved members of the group in trouble, but he would have left them. He wanted to leave Sophia,
Think if that was your child...
The group wouldn't have survived. He was more Gun ho than Rick, but Rick's patience and way of reading people and foreseeing and planning saved the group.
I’d never expect this but what if there was like a mini comic series where Shane killed Rick and led the group, but they just go over how different the main plot points in TWD would be. Maybe some situations are avoided, some worse off than the true story.
So much truth in one video!!
Faults and all aside I think Shane surviving would have shown more about his past and former relationships which may shed light on the love for his friend to try and save him and then to at least make sure he saves ricks family knowing the odds of rick survivg the hospital was slim he then assume ricks position more as a place of honor, duty, and respect as that is what it was at first and its hard to fall out of love with someone especially given the circumstances stances. And lori messing with Shane's head on the farm would lead well into Lori's comic book death which I agree with and shane getting over it fast bc she was essentially the reason he had to kill his best friend. Despite ricks objectively bad decisions up until the prison and regardless of what anyone says shane was the most realistic. Anyone of us would do anything to save our child and in the zombie apocalypse your head state would cause you ondo things you would bash Shane for. Rick far exceeded Shane in dark casualness by the time they got to the prison. Shane wasnt always a bad guy. But he was always an anti hero. And that is the objectively therealest image of who would survive. There are no good or bad guys.. its just those who are willing to do what it takes to survive and then those who enjoy it.
But then again Shane and Lori could have just been having an affair before the walkers came 😅
Saying Shane would get over Lori quick is not realistic. He literally went crazy and was willing to kill his best friend because of his love for Lori. If anything, I think her death would have put him over the edge in a different way, such as him going ballistic against the Governor, which she dies in the comics based on his ambush, and then Shane losing it towards the Gov would be the downfall of the rest of his group, because he'd probably be quicker to sacrifice any of his group aside from Lori and Carl.
I think Shane probably would've killed Hershel after he got bit too, I don't think he would've thought as fast as Rick did.
Also can we get a What If T-Dog Survived Video?
It would of just been another black guy on earth
I've always wondered about such a scenario. You made a brilliant video here, mate.
Man I miss how good this show was. Shane and Rick were the perfect duo for this series it’s a shame Shane dies in season 2 but for good reason it’s crazy how even later in the good seasons with Rick you would still think about Shane from time to time even tho he’s gone
Daryl and gleen figured out shane was trying to kill rick so it wouldnt go well
In this theory I sometimes wonder although his main motive will be to protect Lori and Carl, I feel like something in Shane’s brain wasn’t ticking right. I wonder if eventually with all the killing he would’ve done and trauma he’ll endure if he would even start to feel as if Lori, a baby, and a kid Carl were “a burden”and would just end up not caring and worry more about what will keep him alive 🤔🤔
As Krazy and selfish as he was turning I think he would've left Lori & Carl behind and taken the baby.
now there is a video game coming about this
lost me at point (not that shane would have brought the group to prison at all) where you say Hershel would still be alive if Shane was in charge. Hershel WAS only alive because Rick saved him. Why skip that important part?
It was awesome watching Jon Bernthal's portrayal of Shane just going further and further off the deep end.
The multiple times Let Her Go started playing was gold
i think they'd be able to "coexist" if rick never made it to the camp, still searching Atlanta, ended up being in the hospital that with the other cops that were led by dawn, in that instance, i dont think the group would of found the prison, they would of gone to fort benning instead of cdc, maybe wouldnt of lost jackie, maybe not have lost amy, probably wouldnt of met hershal and family, never lost otis, carl wouldn't of gotten shot, might of met completly different people, maybe have gotten rid of negan early in the series...
Its all speculation. Without Rick they would also have faced problems and losses.
No way would the group follow Shane after season 2. They’d definitely put two and two together after Glenn and Daryl reveal what happened to Randall, the only person who even liked was Carl at that point. It’d be a better idea to have him survive a fight with Rick with a serious injury, run into the woods and be found by Michonne, Andrea is not left at the farm (or maybe she is or maybe she dies) and they stick together until Woodberry where Shane becomes a trusted enforcer for the Governor
Realistically, I feel that the group would’ve failed somewhere along the way without Rick. Leading to almost all of their deaths.
I mean almost everyone from the original cast is dead sooo...
@@kiribat2289 You make a good point.
@@kiribat2289that’s sad because most of the og crew was really cool honestly a lot better than most newer people
I don't think Shane would of spared Negan , no way
They need to make a series a What If series for The walking dead like marvels it'd be so bad ass
Ricks group was strong becuz they considered themselves a family. That wouldn’t be the case with Shane.
need more twd vids 💯
" just say those 2 magical words "
" shut up, just shut up and give me the guns " 😩😂 your edits are brilliant
I loved how you cut shanes clips in here and there
This was top notch😂
T-dog was one of my favorite characters
If they made two versions where Rick survived and where Shane survived I surely would’ve watched both no question!
I’ve had a man-crush on Jon Bernthal after the inception of The Wslking Dead Halloween Night, 2010
Can you make what if:
Shane never loved Lori ( means Rick and Shane could be friends through the series )
woodbury / the governor never existed
the bridge in season 9 was never worked on
eugene never said he doesnt know a cure and they went to dc instead of the humans eating humans in season 5
they somehow find Negans group in Season 5 and join them
I think they would be the most interesting ones which changed the story the most
And btw this video was not really a what if because the story did not change. You only said what Shane would do in Ricks position. I think the biggest story changes would have started at season 5. Shane would have killed all the people at Sanctuary and take it over instead of going in for help, protect it like the Prison. They never would have gotten to Alexandria and everything what happend after
you know alexandria is in dc right
“I’m sure others influenced you, but I like to take full credit”
I wonder if daryl would have followed shane like he did Rick. I feel like Shane and daryl may have ended up being in a similar situation as Shane and Rick and fought to the death as well
I like this what if, but in all honesty you weren’t taking a lot of creative liberties which led to it falling flat at most points. This video is basically summed up as “what if Shane did exactly as Rick did”.
Michonne likely wouldn't have reached the prison since if Lori was alive they wouldn't have needed to go on the formula run and now I'm going down the entire rabbit hole
If she had trouble producing milk for the baby they might have still needed the formula run. She would’ve lost a lot of blood, probably been unconscious for a long time and probably hasn’t been eating/drinking enough to produce so it’s very likely that still would’ve happened.
This just all assumes things don't happen that we KNOW of, but doesn't account for anything we do NOT know of.
For sure people wouldn't follow Shane the way they did Rick, that impact could be massive.
God I wish this was a show it has so much good shit to offer. I’ve always thought of a bunch of what if scenarios, like what if Rick and Daryl never met Jesus? What if Rick was awake during the outbreak? What if Morgan and Duane did go with Rick to Atlanta? SO MUCH POTENTIAL!!
Starting to think you'd fell off the planet 🤣🤣 get fear watched n give us a decent review 🤣🤣 hope all is well
If Shane killed Rick I still don’t think he would be with the group. Because of both Carl and Darly. Carl will appear in of Shane like in the original saying his name. He will see Shane’s gun drawn, then see his dad dead on the floor he slowly process what’s happen. Shane tries to make Carl believe him by lying to him. Carl then pulls out his gun asking Shane why did he do it? Shane is a lost for words. Carl either kills Shane like in the original, expect he’s not a walker and returns back to the house announcing. Shane killed Rick and he killed Shane. Or Carl turns around and runs away back to the house as Shane runs after him yelling him to stop. Carl makes it back to the house crying telling Lori that Shane killed Rick. Now second scenario Daryl. Lets say Carl believed whatever lie Shane told him after escaping the heard, everyone will be asking Shane’s where’s Rick? Shane acts the Same way Rick did not saying anything. Daryl will speak saying he killed him because the the last they saw Rick he was with Shane when looking for Randal. Glenn will back saying he remembers they were together as well. This will cause a conflict between the group screaming and arguing at each other. Lori asks Shane directly if he killed Rick. Shane will mutter yes but try to justify it saying he tried to kill him first, Carl will break down crying and everyone else will be shock. Darly will tell everyone follow him and leave him.Shane continues trying to convince the group Lori slaps Shane,telling him don’t follow us as she comforts a crying Carl. The group walks away as Shane is left the standing by himself rubbing his head.
Bro just dropped a masterpiece
I genuinely think Negan would have killed Shane. I think your right until then but Negan would not want Shane to be alive.
I actually think Shane would have gotten along with Michonne because Michonne was hella badass and practical and good for the groups survival and Shane was all about😅
Props on the editing!
Rick dying instead of Shane is the most boring option. Like Shane leaves and the show becomes about 2 separate groups of survivors who occasionally have interactions but have their own separate problems. Like keep Shane’s group somewhere in the deeper south, maybe Florida or Louisiana or something. After Rick breaks under Negan’s threats to Carl he has to go to Shane for help.
I hated when they killed off Abraham i thought he would be the best replacement for rick if he died.
Technically Shane did survive. Longer than he did in the comic.
I really miss Shane, what a great character man
You gotta make what if morgan made it to rick with al and the gang from ftwd
If Shane lovers actually thought about they would know that Shane would be with the bikers that claim shit. I mean look how fast he claimed Lori and Carl and how he thought Lori didn't have a choice.
Shane didn't associate either low lives.