@@pinksock5507 if you listen to this conversation, this guy is definitely not a Nazi anymore. Dude condemns it and offers an amazing perspective into the psychology and philosophy of the far right. It is a necessary conversation, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you.
It's kinda shocking how this back in 2016 would have been THE debate, but it was more chill because someone who defined the Alt-right, has chilled out massively.
Wild right? Just goes to show that sometimes a far right and sometimes racist political view is a phase for young white dudes similar to a gangster phase for black men and a cholo phase to us Mexican men
Yeah I was amazed how a neo nazi became so liberal. Hopefully it's not a grift. I feel as you grow older you tend to chill out on lot of things. whether you are extreme right or left
Richard Spencer was never the Alt-right. Hell, the people who adopted it propped HIM up. He probably did more to hurt the Alt-right in image and action than anyone else. After his largest failure, which got his supporters fired or worse, he backed off from the group. I remember watching a debate from him back then and it was wild how much he hated the idea of being the working man, as if it was beneath him.
It's easier to make race realism and segregation a reality if you push it from a left wing perspective. The modern left is very race conscious unlike the right where they "don't see color".
@@ethan6036 if you watch Adam ask destiny his opinion on Spencer and then destiny himself asking Spencer his age you can clearly tell they never interacted before
Hate to tell ya but that just means you love drama filled arguments and not debates LOL. A debate is two sides trying to make their case/point like civil people, once you start raging or losing your temper 9/10 that means you've lost and have now resorted to throwing a tantrum to make dead brain birds like you think they're saying anything of value
I started watching NoJumper for the interviews of upcoming rappers and now I'm watching philosophical debates about the trajectory of American civilization. Truly is seeming like the coolest podcast in the world.
Adam22 is the ultimate content creator. You can jerk off to him fucking pornstars and then listen to him moderate a debate once you get post nut clarity. Thats versitility.
No surprise. Most white people who enter black spaces use black people to gain popularity and create a following and then they distance themselves from black people. It's an really old formula. Nothing new here. Mark Wahlberg, Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Justin Timberlake...the list goes on and on...
Adam delving into the debate sphere made me realize there are actually people like me who have been in tune with TH-cam since 2005. Like knowing all the niche channels out there and basically in tune with the TH-cam community as a whole. Even though this isn’t my original account I pride myself as having a very diverse and very old subscription feed. And watching 2 worlds you’ve independently been a fan of collide is surreal in a way. But like I’ve said Adams biggest strength is he is very in tune with the internet. Not a lot of people are. Even content creators themselves are stuck in their little bubbles
Shit, OG TH-camrs… I remember Balloon Shop, LiveLavaLive, Jontron, Jake & Amir, & Tales of Mere Existence used to be my favs. Not a lot of creators from that time are still around, tbh *EDIT:* AVGN and Amazing Atheist too lol
damn adam really is good at putting his thoughts into words. like even on the fly, the more he has people like destiny on who makes adams mental gears turn. the more i see adam honestly having great questions and ways of picking at vocalizing what his mind is thinking.
This is why the "no platforming" thing is ridiculous. If people never hear contrary ideas and the arguments for/against them, it makes them intellectually weak. Being exposed to and debating all kinds of ideas strengthens ones own arguments and world view. Destiny is one of the only people on the left who isn't afraid to debate any person or idea, and he can hold his own in any debate because of it.
If you told me that a porn actor, a video game political streamer and the leader of the Alt-Right movement would sit down and do a pod together, I'd have punched you in the face...yet here we are....
Hmmm... Yah what's more likely is that he has always been a plant for the populist faction to help provide material for the left and their propaganda campaign
They really covered so much about politics and pop culture I've always thought about but could never put into words. People like Richard Spencer should always be able to change their minds and come forward. They should never be written off completely. Big win No Jumper.
Never in a million years would I think that one of the most thought provoking conversations I’ve ever heard would be between Richard Spencer and Destiny
Yea, if you want to have a conversation with Spencer, you have to get very meta and meta conversations require a good knowledge base of history, politics and philosophy.
@@kungfukenny728 Big L for you. You're either so incredibly egotistical that you think you've already covered all of the nuances covered in this conversation, or you're just a troll that I'm feeding.
@@Avo7977 it wasn’t as bloodsport style as I thought it was going to be but great discussion none the less. what I meant was watching destiny debate with someone from the far right again since TH-cam has since eradicated all traces of those types. But Spencer made it very clear he has since moved political lines since then and has come to a more realistic outlook.
Ok I officially believe in a multiverse now. This has to be a parallel universe for this conversation to make this much sense and be this deep, thought provoking, respectful, and meaningful. What the fuck happened to the shitty reality I woke up in this morning?
It would’ve been more enjoyable had he not been talking at a hundred miles per hour and saying f*ck every third word. Jfc slow down destiny. Adderall much?
This was the best I’ve seen Destiny. I think he’s grown up even more than Richard has. He’s drifting more right as Richard is drifting more left lol. I still disagree with his basic worldview but yeah…
@@evanoglesby9504 the longer and harder people critically engage with politics and philosophy and world history…. The more they will be pulled to the center, IF they are engaging with the topics in good faith
@@1gregmoreira Centrist Politics are good for the nuts and bolts managing of an empire or state. They speak to the practical needs of the general populace for where they’re at in space and time. When existing at the crest of the wave of the cycles of passing time, however, you’re not going to be at the “center” of politics by the very nature of being at the forefront of things. Destiny will become a centrist. Richard never will. Any centrism that Richard is entertaining presently are just the outcome of his contrarian nature.
@@evanoglesby9504 I’m not speaking on behalf of Richard. I don’t know much about the guy I’m just speaking generally. Good faith engagement with the issues tends to pull anyone away from the insane edges and closer to sanity. Which is nearer the middle I’m also not suggesting that people will literally become centrists. Just saying that they would get pulled away from the edge
This is by far the most interesting conversation I’ve ever heard on No Jumper. Having said that, Adam should’ve known that’s not what this channel/shows about. Seems like he’s having a change of heart now on what direction he wants to take the show in and his bread and butter was the hip-hop stuff talking to rappers and whatever and those conversations, unless you’re a fan of the artist he’s talking to can get pretty boring. Guess he’s trying to do like the Joe Rogan thing now, and actually have long format interesting conversations. Not the trivial bullshit the bulk of no jumper fans wanna hear about like what opps some rapper is into it with or whatever.. People that want to hear conversations like this are already watching Lex Friedman, Joe Rogan, etc. and they’re not coming to no jumper. So he’s just gonna lose a whole bunch of fans and I don’t think this is gonna work out for him in the end. He should’ve just done this on a different platform entirely just dedicated to long format conversations with controversial guests instead of putting it in no jumper.
@@probablecausetocheckhard-drive yeah well you’re not exactly in the demographic no jumper targets and highly unlikely to subscribe or consume any of their other content. Meanwhile droves of his actual audience and supporters are leaving
This... has been an odd but extremely enlightening experience. Spencer of all people. Just wow. Great job you guys. I’ve sent the conversation to many politically active people in my social circles. Maybe it’ll lead to more engagements like this.
@@orangemanbad 100% Richard Spencer is an absolute grifter. He comes of very reasonable in this conversation. I think it would’ve be interesting if he was pressed about specific opinions he used to hold and if he thinks differently nowadays. Maybe that’s a conversation for a different day.
@@runningriot6399 he’s obviously evolved many of his opinions. And why shouldn’t be be able to? In the end, he’s just a person. And if we’re being honest, can we blame him for all his past options not being totally PC? Black Americans are basically celebrated for being racist. There are more videos of young black men disrespecting cops until they got beat up or shot than any other race. There are more black violent crimes than any other racial group. Shit, even Scott Adams recently said that many black Americans are basically a white-hating hate group and he’s removing himself from helping and being around people who simply hate him and will forever call him a racist. And he’s right. So what, Richard is a human like anyone else. He’s flawed. But Malcom X had views almost identical to Richard and he’s seen as a hero because reasons.
Yeah, he was such a good nazi, but when ppl questioned the Vax, he had to bounce. I was willing to hate black ppl and jews, but the vax conspiracy? That was the last straw. I just had to get out. What a clown. And a vanilla one at that. Three hrs and he said nothing. I don't even know what he stands for. Idk how solve this and that, I'm not really sure about that either . I do know all conspiracies are a lie and because of that jews and black ppl are the greatest ppl to walk the earth, now. Ok. Lol. Wow.
From all the other creators spazzing online right now I expected these comments to be full of hate. I'm glad there are people out there still that can listen to a debate, admire a CONVERSATION with vastly different view points and take it for what it is. Pleasantly surprised, respect to you all.
Nobody asked Spencer a single difficult question. This was a guy who was sieg heiling and glorifying Nazis and now he just says "oh I'm not racist anymore" and they just completely accepted it
I don't believe a word of what he says, I'm sure you noticed how serious he looked when he said Joe Biden is the greatest president ever he was trying so hard not to laugh. And since 2020 when he supposedly denounced racism, he has done multiple streams with various Neo-Nazis where they go on about multiculturalism destroying Europe.
I really wish there was more of a conversation about him changing his views and how/why he did. Not because I think there's any kind of responsibility argument, just because I'm super curious how he flipped on a lot of things so hard in such a short amount of time.
He never believed in any of the shit he used to say. It was all about framing a narrative around a certain group of people. He’s probably paid by someone or some organization.
Imagine how unlucky you have to be, being destiny in a room with someone that you ideally would love to debate to then realize that he's probably reformed lmao "You're gonna debate THE richard spencer...but he now agrees with you on almost everything".....
Spencer is sharp, and incredibly well spoken, but he doesn’t have power or influence anymore. Destiny wouldn’t be as charitable towards someone like Nick Fuentes.
@@semyaza555that’s not why he wouldn’t be as charitable. It sounds to me like Nick Fuentes and Richard Spencer share very different ideals and Richard’s ideal are closer to Destiny’s. Destiny used to debate Nick Fuentes before he got big to the point that people blame him for Nick blowing up.
@@KentPhillips The only meaningful differences between Fuentes, and Spencer is Nick is a religious Reactionary, and Richard is a atheist Liberal; They both acknowledge differences between the races (among other things) and get along far better now than they did back in the day. Destiny is only charitable to Richard because a) they're both Liberals, and b) he doesn't know very much about Right wing philosophies because he's so used to straw-manning their arguments. If he had a basic understanding of the latter, he'd be as adversarial to Spencer, as he is to Fuentes.
Richard is just as right-wing as he ever was (not that I think that's bad), he's just a Nietzschean which is different than most right wing Americans who are typically religious and reactionary, which Spencer is against.
@@semyaza555 Richard woud argue he's less liberal than Fuentes, he's just more progressive (not the same thing). Fuentes has more in common with the average American conservative (who are classical liberals) than Spencer does.
fuck no, dude is a piece of shit who pushed hate for so damn long. If you think that's cool or someone to follow your why people still shit on America all over the world. Grow up its not edgy to like this shit and hes not intelligent or ground breaking
lol shut up you hate black people, Tyrone gonna dick Down your mom's wife and daughter reforming their pussy their eyes roll back and she belongs to him now you don't exist to them. your voice starts to annoy them and if you say anything they start withdrawing at the thought of even hearing stay away from him. ps: u have said the nword before 100%
This might just be the best sit down you’ve ever hosted. If Adam’s show continues in this direction i’d actually watch it. This conversation gave a me a lot to think about. More of this and less 304s, anti-intellectual rappers, and fist fighting p1mps.
I can’t stress enough, how this debate should be hacked into every IOT in this country. This intersection was one of, if not THE MOST, beautiful convos I’ve heard since the inception of social media. Adam, Richard, and Destiny, this was a blessing to hear. Thank you…
This has been a fascinating look into how a person can change, I appreciate the f*** that you had this conversation because I didn't know I needed it until actually listening to it.
@@darbyoharaWhat a stupid statement, isn’t that how everyone’s thoughts form? The same way ALL art is created, all art uses references from multiple sources to create something original, although it never is truly original, because it’s a collection of different sources. Good job on explaining what a thought is. All of our beliefs are formed from our family, school, environment, friends, books we selectively read, media we choose to watch, etc.
I’m here for the pivot, no harm in losing an audience you don’t want, new subs will come who are open to thought provoking content. Nothing thought provoking about the redundant drama and shit that surrounds hip hop
I agree. The cringe rappers and gang talk got old fast. Some people are going to be upset at these convos lol. Especially, the red pillers who grifted towards fundamental abrahamic religion.. and take them literally.
1:08:30 "The people are trained to crave conversation more than music" This is very true throughout the entire internet. People aren't just seeking out more knowledge about something like hip hop, they want to be in a community centered around it.
Thank you for saying this... every other comment saying what a great conversation like tf are yall talking about this dude a just a wagon hopper. Not saying it wasn't interesting buy he still sounds the same just more calm and claiming to be liberal
He’s always been an establishment guy. The whole “Hail Trump” shtick was so cringe I could see through it from the beginning. This guy never liked Trump.
This use to be a normal thing but yt deleted anything to do with. They think preventing people like this to speak is deplatforming when its only gonna make everyone angry at the wrong person
You are fully okay to switch your voting party as one sees fit or as they address your needs. It's pretty crazy how so dedicated to one party or another everybody is- it probably shouldn't be a defining factor of your personality.
I’ve had some good burgers in my time. I love a good Swiss, melted Swiss cheese and mushrooms, roasted mushrooms, and caramelized onions on a burger. That is hot stuff. You can get that at a number of different places.
Making the alt right jokes and snide comments is so boring and passé. Can we move on and realize and accept when people want to change and grow. Would u want that right to be taken away from yourself ? I don’t think so. Let’s have more of these engaging dialogues. This was one of the best talks I’ve seen so far in the year. Richard and destiny are both great speakers and hold the audience. It was a respectful exchange, let’s welcome this approach people.
Adam has really changed my opinion about him. A big part of that is him engaging with different voices and pushing back on certain viewpoints and not just platforming. Destiny is a big part of that🤝
Three white dudes discussing society, with one of them proudly being one of the biggest neo-nazi racists in recent history. This convo is pointless w/o anyone else on the panel. And no, I'm not talking about AD, Flako, or any no jumper staff. But I guarantee you this convo would be different with a diverse panel of thinkers. Can't talk about black or brown people on a forum like this without no representation from black or brown people to provide a response and have a real discussion. Straight like that. 🤷🏽♂️
And liberals knowing how to govern 😏 Conservatives build the nations, liberals destroy them.. It's an eternal cycle in every nation that has ever existed and it's the same thing now..
Of all the people on in the internet, I didn’t expect Adam22 to host such an intellectually challenging show. Finally, we have a podcast where diametrically opposed speakers can debate without angry commenters or enraged bystanders interrupting their flow. We need more of these conversations.
@Truth seeker idk if youre memeing, but you just said “ex” white supremacist.. which… is a good thing…. No? Im not saying to dive in naively, but humans human, and can be, infact, redeemable. This was a fantastic podcast intro with Destiny kinda ensuring nothing crazy doesnt go unchecked. In order to heal the current political nonsense, bridges must be built, and convos must be had or its just going to be the same doomer sh* fighting forever. Do you disagree? Edit: didnt see your second comment saying youre joking. Apologies. 💙
These comments about Richard changing are clearly from people who don't follow him. He hasn't changed any of his ideas, he still talks much about hierarchy and promotes it in almost every point he has but in an appealing for normie audience manner. In this interview you can see him not wanting to touch the race question, not because it's not important for him, but because he didn't want to look bad for the target audience, it's really that simple.
1:03:00 This music convo is super interesting because i think we saw something similar happen to video games. The sixth generation of gaming (GCN, XB, PS2) was the final era where you were guaranteed to be nerds if you liked video games. With the launch of the PS2, gaming became more mainstream. And it changed everything. Suddenly all game consoles had to be fully online and be able to do things other than load video games to compete. I don't think it's a coincidence that the criticisms people make of popular music being overproduced and derivative is the same as the criticisms almost all other forms of popular entertainment now. Just something i found interesting.
Adam is so versatile. Being able to direct conversations on all sorts of topics with people from opposite sides of political extremes. No Jumper is really going places.
This interview and the other one with Destiny with the dude you kept joking was a red pill agent for Fresh and Fit were fkn amazing and so out of left field from what I expected from this channel. I don't make it a point to sit through 3 hour podcasts super often but I watched both of these with intense focus the entire way through. I didn't even know wtf to expect with Richard Spencer but it was not what I was expecting in the least. The only gripe/negative thing I have to say that there were numerous times that one person wanted to state their opinion or rebuttal or finish their argument or statement while the other person would try to jump in, but it was always handled in a super professional and non antagonistic way. Almost to a fault, where I would lose track mentally of what the point the speaker was trying to make and it seemed like the other side sort of did as well. But this was an enjoyable as fk conversation to watch. Continue to do these. I enjoy the pure entertainment "Katsumi and her friends talk about getting trained up by 50 dudes" interviews but those kinda get old after a while. I was on a No Jumper binge for a while but the content seemed to be getting stale and I fell off keeping up with the podcast. But this new shit you doing is straight fire Adam.
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Never in a million years did I think richard spencer would be on no jumper.
Adam Freemason knows his people 👁
he a fake poser pos
Lol. Really? He's basically Adam these days. At this point, neither one should have a platform. Like really who gives a neo nazi a platform. Smh
@@pinksock5507 if you listen to the interview it’s a good conversation
@@pinksock5507 if you listen to this conversation, this guy is definitely not a Nazi anymore. Dude condemns it and offers an amazing perspective into the psychology and philosophy of the far right. It is a necessary conversation, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you.
Destiny is a black girls name
🤙🏻🍕 LMFAO Sure it!! 🤙🏻🍕
That’s my name 😂
@@destinysamuel9578 gross
stripper name
Stupid comment
Adam is so excited to have two parts of his personality
manifest to do an interview
this is an underrated comment
Lmao how did your comment go unnoticed, that's gold 😂
congratulations for actually making actual commentary and not being an npc saying “wow this was a great interview!”
Adam clearly leans one way more than the other
😂😂😂
It's kinda shocking how this back in 2016 would have been THE debate, but it was more chill because someone who defined the Alt-right, has chilled out massively.
Wild right? Just goes to show that sometimes a far right and sometimes racist political view is a phase for young white dudes similar to a gangster phase for black men and a cholo phase to us Mexican men
its always been this chill
Yeah I was amazed how a neo nazi became so liberal. Hopefully it's not a grift. I feel as you grow older you tend to chill out on lot of things. whether you are extreme right or left
Richard Spencer was never the Alt-right. Hell, the people who adopted it propped HIM up. He probably did more to hurt the Alt-right in image and action than anyone else. After his largest failure, which got his supporters fired or worse, he backed off from the group. I remember watching a debate from him back then and it was wild how much he hated the idea of being the working man, as if it was beneath him.
It's easier to make race realism and segregation a reality if you push it from a left wing perspective. The modern left is very race conscious unlike the right where they "don't see color".
Duuuude whaaaaat is going on. Richard Spencer on No Jumper debating Destiny. Did I slip into an alternative universe?
I can’t wait until they have Jared Taylor on
@@ieatdogfood6530 fuck the ADL o/
Right!?
@@RazPerignon the huwhite man is balling like an athlete, even though he's statistically being held back by lacking a jumper
Like oh my god dewd no wai
I never thought I would see Richard Spencer and Destiny in the same room and its all thanks to No Jumper.
They've debated like 30 times
@@jeffbriggs1987 Um no they have never debated or even interacted once before this. What a weird thing to invent for no apparent reason.
@@sigmar40k are you joking or not? they've talked before
@@ethan6036 if you watch Adam ask destiny his opinion on Spencer and then destiny himself asking Spencer his age you can clearly tell they never interacted before
@@ethan6036 Show me where they've talked before. Destiny has debated a lot of nazis, but he has never interacted with Richard Spencer.
This was actually much different than I’d expected. Quality convo and it didn’t get all weird even when they disagreed on things.
worst type of debate
just for the simple price of fucking your whole career up
That’s the only reason I watch debates. I love to watch ppl argue and get angry at each other lol
Hate to tell ya but that just means you love drama filled arguments and not debates LOL. A debate is two sides trying to make their case/point like civil people, once you start raging or losing your temper 9/10 that means you've lost and have now resorted to throwing a tantrum to make dead brain birds like you think they're saying anything of value
@@houndngh123gwell people aren’t in a rush to be civil with a neo n***
I started watching NoJumper for the interviews of upcoming rappers and now I'm watching philosophical debates about the trajectory of American civilization. Truly is seeming like the coolest podcast in the world.
Adam22 is the ultimate content creator. You can jerk off to him fucking pornstars and then listen to him moderate a debate once you get post nut clarity. Thats versitility.
No surprise. Most white people who enter black spaces use black people to gain popularity and create a following and then they distance themselves from black people. It's an really old formula. Nothing new here. Mark Wahlberg, Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Justin Timberlake...the list goes on and on...
Black community isn’t taking it so well. Def went at Adam.
Is what it is though, we all know who pays the checks.
A Nietszchien and an atheist walk in a room. All they talk about is Christianity
🤣🤣🤣
💀💀
damn 💀
Bang
Adam delving into the debate sphere made me realize there are actually people like me who have been in tune with TH-cam since 2005. Like knowing all the niche channels out there and basically in tune with the TH-cam community as a whole. Even though this isn’t my original account I pride myself as having a very diverse and very old subscription feed. And watching 2 worlds you’ve independently been a fan of collide is surreal in a way. But like I’ve said Adams biggest strength is he is very in tune with the internet. Not a lot of people are. Even content creators themselves are stuck in their little bubbles
Well said
Agreed
Familiar with the Genova sphere? Aka Jason Genova
Shit, OG TH-camrs… I remember Balloon Shop, LiveLavaLive, Jontron, Jake & Amir, & Tales of Mere Existence used to be my favs.
Not a lot of creators from that time are still around, tbh
*EDIT:* AVGN and Amazing Atheist too lol
@@HauntedHarmonics bro I LOVE Jake & Amir!!! My most favorite episodes are with Ben Schwartz. Few videos have made me laugh as hard as Jake & Amir
damn adam really is good at putting his thoughts into words. like even on the fly, the more he has people like destiny on who makes adams mental gears turn. the more i see adam honestly having great questions and ways of picking at vocalizing what his mind is thinking.
This is why the "no platforming" thing is ridiculous. If people never hear contrary ideas and the arguments for/against them, it makes them intellectually weak. Being exposed to and debating all kinds of ideas strengthens ones own arguments and world view.
Destiny is one of the only people on the left who isn't afraid to debate any person or idea, and he can hold his own in any debate because of it.
Not a fan of destiny, but even I will admit, he puts together a good debate. One of the best I would argue.
It’s the bloodline and New Hampshire/New England studies Duhhhh
Adam flew to Canada when he was 23 to have sex with a 16 year old girl and bragged about it in a blog post that he has confirmed real
@@Karen_Marie Destiny is not representative of the left. He is a centrist by any metric.
If you told me that a porn actor, a video game political streamer and the leader of the Alt-Right movement would sit down and do a pod together, I'd have punched you in the face...yet here we are....
2020 to now has been an alternate universe 😂
You Alt-Unis punched my man in ear
Hmmm... Yah what's more likely is that he has always been a plant for the populist faction to help provide material for the left and their propaganda campaign
They really covered so much about politics and pop culture I've always thought about but could never put into words. People like Richard Spencer should always be able to change their minds and come forward. They should never be written off completely. Big win No Jumper.
you get trump era no apologies...
@Sebastian Ag Anything is possible
he didn't change his mind just chose to focus on supplanting christianity which is the root source of liberalism in the west
Lol he's still a nazi
@Sebastian Ag power is a zero sum game after all.
Never in a million years would I think that one of the most thought provoking conversations I’ve ever heard would be between Richard Spencer and Destiny
First day with a brain?
@@kungfukenny728 this conversation is not common in the podcast world, it’s very theologically and philosophically deep
@@kungfukenny728 that made me chuckle
Yea, if you want to have a conversation with Spencer, you have to get very meta and meta conversations require a good knowledge base of history, politics and philosophy.
@@kungfukenny728 Big L for you.
You're either so incredibly egotistical that you think you've already covered all of the nuances covered in this conversation, or you're just a troll that I'm feeding.
This is like 2016 flipped upside down and on steroids. Idk what dimension I live in nowadays
This is pinnacle level content right here. One of the more thought provoking conversations I’ve heard in recent years
Agreed 👍💯
It was pretty boring and shallow
@@dontknow3949 shallow? how is this conversation shallow?
Richard Spencer on No Jumper is something I would have never expected in a million years
Honestly one of the best convos I have heard sober. No jumper needs a tagger/intellectual or something.
Absolute SS tier content great stuff.
This comment deserves to be huge
And my axe
Did you listen to it at all tho?
Haha you’re a god for this!
Lol😂
I enjoyed this conversation. Thanks for bringing these people together. (Legal troubles are potent motivators.)
All I learned from this is "If you scratch a liberal you smell a Nazi"
Idk where to put this so I'm putting this here:
Adam's face at 2:39:24 - 2:39:56 💀 when the mushrooms kicked in 👁🗨👁🗨
Thank you for the substance in this conversation.
What conclusion did this substance help you draw? Or are you just typing shit to sound smart?
Hell yea I missed these 2015 - 2018 style debates thank you Adam for bringing it back
What do you mean by that
@@Avo7977 what do you mean bish
@@yungbasshead710 Bro I wanted to know what he meant by 2015 - 2018 style debates, and where I could find more
@@Avo7977 TH-cam "internet Bloodsports" it was a great time. A great great time.
@@Avo7977 it wasn’t as bloodsport style as I thought it was going to be but great discussion none the less. what I meant was watching destiny debate with someone from the far right again since TH-cam has since eradicated all traces of those types. But Spencer made it very clear he has since moved political lines since then and has come to a more realistic outlook.
Ok I officially believe in a multiverse now. This has to be a parallel universe for this conversation to make this much sense and be this deep, thought provoking, respectful, and meaningful. What the fuck happened to the shitty reality I woke up in this morning?
I think they put a little extra something something in Richard Spencer's vaccine and now he's kosher and powered by Microsoft.
Literally nothing couldve prepared me for this discussion having read the title lmfao
Just wait till you see Ball Fondlers
@@SergeantKalthey clearly backed the wrong conceptual horse
It’s still there
Well, this was the most philosophical conversation Destiny has ever participated in.
It would’ve been more enjoyable had he not been talking at a hundred miles per hour and saying f*ck every third word. Jfc slow down destiny. Adderall much?
dumb comment, Richard Spencer has a 70iq philosophy.
Calm down buddy, IQ is racist!
Is someone going to come and suddenly punch richard spencer in the head like the past............???
@@Satan-bx4evNo he doesnt
this was an amazing conversation between richard spencer and a black girl named destiny
Please do more of this content Adam.
Please take more selfies and post them twins
🦝🦝🦝
One of the most enjoyable showings from Destiny I've ever seen. The content drought is over.
The only downfall is Destiny is a girls name so checkmate
This was the best I’ve seen Destiny. I think he’s grown up even more than Richard has.
He’s drifting more right as Richard is drifting more left lol.
I still disagree with his basic worldview but yeah…
@@evanoglesby9504 the longer and harder people critically engage with politics and philosophy and world history…. The more they will be pulled to the center, IF they are engaging with the topics in good faith
@@1gregmoreira Centrist Politics are good for the nuts and bolts managing of an empire or state. They speak to the practical needs of the general populace for where they’re at in space and time. When existing at the crest of the wave of the cycles of passing time, however, you’re not going to be at the “center” of politics by the very nature of being at the forefront of things. Destiny will become a centrist. Richard never will.
Any centrism that Richard is entertaining presently are just the outcome of his contrarian nature.
@@evanoglesby9504 I’m not speaking on behalf of Richard. I don’t know much about the guy
I’m just speaking generally. Good faith engagement with the issues tends to pull anyone away from the insane edges and closer to sanity. Which is nearer the middle
I’m also not suggesting that people will literally become centrists. Just saying that they would get pulled away from the edge
This wasn’t the podcast that it was rumored to be. This was good.
People are so close minded they can't even sit and listen to a discussion with people who have different pov's
Media Matters just called No Jumper White Suprmacist just by simply letting Richard Spencer speak and actually make a couple solid points.
Give us Richard Spencer V. Nick Fuentes
Need that for sure
Yes! That would be fascinating.
Fuentes and Spencer already talked on a live stream on Fuentes' Rumble channel.
Keep these interesting Destiny debates coming! A debate against Richard Spencer was unexpected, but one that made me click instantly.
great convo. not much debate
i dnt see how richard spencer is a nazi,? pretty normal guy
Bro watched a 3 hour conversation between a neo Nazi and a blue haired 30 yr old man
What debate? Spencer agreed with a lot of what Destiny said
Debate? More like a circle jerk
This is by far the most interesting conversation I’ve ever heard on No Jumper. Having said that, Adam should’ve known that’s not what this channel/shows about. Seems like he’s having a change of heart now on what direction he wants to take the show in and his bread and butter was the hip-hop stuff talking to rappers and whatever and those conversations, unless you’re a fan of the artist he’s talking to can get pretty boring. Guess he’s trying to do like the Joe Rogan thing now, and actually have long format interesting conversations. Not the trivial bullshit the bulk of no jumper fans wanna hear about like what opps some rapper is into it with or whatever.. People that want to hear conversations like this are already watching Lex Friedman, Joe Rogan, etc. and they’re not coming to no jumper. So he’s just gonna lose a whole bunch of fans and I don’t think this is gonna work out for him in the end. He should’ve just done this on a different platform entirely just dedicated to long format conversations with controversial guests instead of putting it in no jumper.
I mean when you bang minors, it's probably best to get away from them. So he's better off doing shocking political content, its all he's got left
Never heard of Channel until this podcast so you're wrong
@@probablecausetocheckhard-drive yeah well you’re not exactly in the demographic no jumper targets and highly unlikely to subscribe or consume any of their other content. Meanwhile droves of his actual audience and supporters are leaving
Are 2 out of three men here cuckold?
Richard is such a good speaker. His speaking style just pulls you in.
There aren’t many people who can do that, but I can think of one… he was a really good public speaker…
WITLER 🔥🔥🔥
Welp comments like this are why having that shithead on was a bad idea.
I don’t know, he sounds pretty gay to me.
i think its that and practice, i wish i could have such good public speaking skills
We need more civillized inteligent conversation like that 100%
The rap and gang fans are going to hate this podcast 😂
And less conversation about religious nonsense.
@@bluepilledalpha why would you say that?
@@bluepilledalpha Mr Bigot In the house
@@gerrywallington You probably have your answer by now.
SPENCER'S HAIR IS ICONIC
This... has been an odd but extremely enlightening experience. Spencer of all people. Just wow. Great job you guys. I’ve sent the conversation to many politically active people in my social circles. Maybe it’ll lead to more engagements like this.
He comes off as a sleezy conman
@@orangemanbad 100% Richard Spencer is an absolute grifter. He comes of very reasonable in this conversation. I think it would’ve be interesting if he was pressed about specific opinions he used to hold and if he thinks differently nowadays. Maybe that’s a conversation for a different day.
Great comment. And I agree.
@@runningriot6399 he’s obviously evolved many of his opinions. And why shouldn’t be be able to? In the end, he’s just a person. And if we’re being honest, can we blame him for all his past options not being totally PC? Black Americans are basically celebrated for being racist. There are more videos of young black men disrespecting cops until they got beat up or shot than any other race. There are more black violent crimes than any other racial group. Shit, even Scott Adams recently said that many black Americans are basically a white-hating hate group and he’s removing himself from helping and being around people who simply hate him and will forever call him a racist. And he’s right. So what, Richard is a human like anyone else. He’s flawed. But Malcom X had views almost identical to Richard and he’s seen as a hero because reasons.
Yeah, he was such a good nazi, but when ppl questioned the Vax, he had to bounce. I was willing to hate black ppl and jews, but the vax conspiracy? That was the last straw. I just had to get out. What a clown. And a vanilla one at that. Three hrs and he said nothing. I don't even know what he stands for. Idk how solve this and that, I'm not really sure about that either . I do know all conspiracies are a lie and because of that jews and black ppl are the greatest ppl to walk the earth, now. Ok. Lol. Wow.
So much content from Destiny... just now finished the Jedediah interview, and now this.
foreal hahahah
I'm cringing whenever he speaks, no humor, too serious, "know it all type" and his mannerism are gay
Richard Spencer needs more platforms, he thinks better than he gets credit for. I liked this. It was a slam dunk.
hes a fucking fed bro, just get another random CIA compromised traitor and they'll say the same exact things.
99% of No Jumper viewers turned this debate off after hearing 10 words they didn't understand which probably happened within the first 7 minutes.
😂
Lol
This helped me get more of a white perspective. I agree with a lil bit but I disagree with a lot of it but it’s nice to see a different side
You must not have made it through one minute😂😂😂😂. Please explain one bit of It that was anywhere close to a debate. Pot.........kettle
From all the other creators spazzing online right now I expected these comments to be full of hate. I'm glad there are people out there still that can listen to a debate, admire a CONVERSATION with vastly different view points and take it for what it is. Pleasantly surprised, respect to you all.
Despite his past, Richard is an extremely well read guy and has a lot of insightful takes on the world today.
Remember the original nazis were educated and we'll versed in they're thinking
More like because of his past and not despite. You still need to learn a lot
He’s an absolute moron
@@whatda7705 I already saw alot of Spencer's old videos. He was much more zealous in his thinking
@@whatda7705 nazi smart not wanting genocide dumb
Nobody asked Spencer a single difficult question. This was a guy who was sieg heiling and glorifying Nazis and now he just says "oh I'm not racist anymore" and they just completely accepted it
I don't believe a word of what he says, I'm sure you noticed how serious he looked when he said Joe Biden is the greatest president ever he was trying so hard not to laugh. And since 2020 when he supposedly denounced racism, he has done multiple streams with various Neo-Nazis where they go on about multiculturalism destroying Europe.
that’s literally how it happens tho
all those confederate reenactors are now married normies who watch yellowstone and discovered craft beer
@@saimedi2100 facts its fucked up
@@jacobalexander7192 normcore maxxing
Hes still a racialist, he just realised screaming white power is too meatheaded and the right way about it is to sneak it with subtle indoctrination
Never thought I’d want to hear more of Spencer and Destiny talking, but here I am lol
Super interesting conversation. Thanks adam for setting this up
Wow, this was an amazing conversation.
I really wish there was more of a conversation about him changing his views and how/why he did. Not because I think there's any kind of responsibility argument, just because I'm super curious how he flipped on a lot of things so hard in such a short amount of time.
He never believed in any of the shit he used to say. It was all about framing a narrative around a certain group of people. He’s probably paid by someone or some organization.
I don't believe him honestly
Imagine how unlucky you have to be, being destiny in a room with someone that you ideally would love to debate to then realize that he's probably reformed lmao
"You're gonna debate THE richard spencer...but he now agrees with you on almost everything".....
Spencer is sharp, and incredibly well spoken, but he doesn’t have power or influence anymore. Destiny wouldn’t be as charitable towards someone like Nick Fuentes.
@@semyaza555that’s not why he wouldn’t be as charitable. It sounds to me like Nick Fuentes and Richard Spencer share very different ideals and Richard’s ideal are closer to Destiny’s. Destiny used to debate Nick Fuentes before he got big to the point that people blame him for Nick blowing up.
@@KentPhillips The only meaningful differences between Fuentes, and Spencer is Nick is a religious Reactionary, and Richard is a atheist Liberal; They both acknowledge differences between the races (among other things) and get along far better now than they did back in the day.
Destiny is only charitable to Richard because a) they're both Liberals, and b) he doesn't know very much about Right wing philosophies because he's so used to straw-manning their arguments.
If he had a basic understanding of the latter, he'd be as adversarial to Spencer, as he is to Fuentes.
Richard is just as right-wing as he ever was (not that I think that's bad), he's just a Nietzschean which is different than most right wing Americans who are typically religious and reactionary, which Spencer is against.
@@semyaza555 Richard woud argue he's less liberal than Fuentes, he's just more progressive (not the same thing). Fuentes has more in common with the average American conservative (who are classical liberals) than Spencer does.
I gotta say the highlight for me was hearing Richard call teenage pregnancies "after school specials"😂 great conversation good shit adam
Literally watching Adam come to the realization that he's not nearly as intelligent or knowledgeable as he thought he was. Kinda cool
Excellent video, you should have these two on again together. I sincerely believe we need more discussions online like this, this is healthy.
What part of giving a neo nazi a platform healthy?
fuck no, dude is a piece of shit who pushed hate for so damn long. If you think that's cool or someone to follow your why people still shit on America all over the world. Grow up its not edgy to like this shit and hes not intelligent or ground breaking
lol shut up you hate black people, Tyrone gonna dick Down your mom's wife and daughter reforming their pussy their eyes roll back and she belongs to him now you don't exist to them. your voice starts to annoy them and if you say anything they start withdrawing at the thought of even hearing stay away from him. ps: u have said the nword before 100%
This might just be the best sit down you’ve ever hosted. If Adam’s show continues in this direction i’d actually watch it. This conversation gave a me a lot to think about. More of this and less 304s, anti-intellectual rappers, and fist fighting p1mps.
nah I wanna see Kelpy get hit again tho
Both things are entertaining
Just let the record reflect. You hate carbon colored people
anyone who calls hoes "304s" can also be categorized as an anti-intellectual.
@@God-w- Where were you? Can you help me get the Job tomorrow? Im your biggest fan bro
Bruh how is Richard Spencer just chillin in the no jumper studio 🤣
I'm surprised he didn't cause a second los angeles riots
I can’t stress enough, how this debate should be hacked into every IOT in this country. This intersection was one of, if not THE MOST, beautiful convos I’ve heard since the inception of social media. Adam, Richard, and Destiny, this was a blessing to hear. Thank you…
Extremely entertaining and thought provoking podcast episode!
youd love destinys vids then
More of this please.
This has been a fascinating look into how a person can change, I appreciate the f*** that you had this conversation because I didn't know I needed it until actually listening to it.
Legendary video. Thank you so much No Jumper you really are on to something
This ain’t no debate.. this is us hearing Destiny’s thoughts and others respond.
Destiny doesn’t have any of his own thoughts. He just selectively repeats others thoughts or work that he likes
@@darbyoharaWhat a stupid statement, isn’t that how everyone’s thoughts form? The same way ALL art is created, all art uses references from multiple sources to create something original, although it never is truly original, because it’s a collection of different sources. Good job on explaining what a thought is.
All of our beliefs are formed from our family, school, environment, friends, books we selectively read, media we choose to watch, etc.
I can’t believe how much I’m enjoying this podcast lol
Am I in a fucking dream? This is one of the wildest pieces of content I’ve ever seen
Really great discussion. Never would have expected these two to meet.
Nick Fuentes definitely won this debate.
My brain has literally expanded, having seen this interview. It was truly fascinating. A "meeting of the minds" if you will.
Really good convo. Crazy to see Destiny and Spencer agree on like 80% of this podcast.
Well, they're both sodomites, so not surprising.
dude is just hiding his power level.
@@nahsik I'm sure your right to an extent.
Although Richard has changed his views, mainly based on perceived outcomes, he has always been this type of thinker.
@John Ludwig Are you Nazi. Because that flag was used in the German American Bund
Spencer seemed 100% good faith.
I agree, but I think he always has been too. We all have our moments but agree or disagree his ideas even with white identity are thought out.
Never thought I'd see Richard Spencer on No Jumper
It’s funny how Richard Spencer turned into a gay liberal
Such a loser, he’s a true cvck
Zionist fed
He has children and a family is he is lesser gay than you if you are some single virgin
lmao legit
😂
I’m here for the pivot, no harm in losing an audience you don’t want, new subs will come who are open to thought provoking content. Nothing thought provoking about the redundant drama and shit that surrounds hip hop
I agree. The cringe rappers and gang talk got old fast. Some people are going to be upset at these convos lol. Especially, the red pillers who grifted towards fundamental abrahamic religion.. and take them literally.
What's funny is how little you seem to understand the "pivot."
never thought I'd ever say this but spencer seems like an ok guy
Seems to have balanced himself to the ground
@@user-ik5ze1sh7i yeah
Yeah he surprised me
a fanatic of any flavor could have a good heart inside him
if you only ever see his fanaticism, you'll never see his humanity.
@@jpw5820 source? Genuinely curious
Destiny always speaks her mind
She sure does
Her?
@@_wassupwitit Destiny is a girl's name
@Résumé still good.
Even got the bluhair
1:08:30 "The people are trained to crave conversation more than music"
This is very true throughout the entire internet. People aren't just seeking out more knowledge about something like hip hop, they want to be in a community centered around it.
Yeah that was the most important bar imo
He lost me at Biden being the best president
Thank you for saying this... every other comment saying what a great conversation like tf are yall talking about this dude a just a wagon hopper. Not saying it wasn't interesting buy he still sounds the same just more calm and claiming to be liberal
@@OKLAHOMIESKY Biden does like putting black people in jail though maybe that's the real appeal.
Its not a pro biden thing as much as its an anti every other recent president thing.
Best president in his lifetime, which isn’t an unfair statement. Bidens meh but so has everyone else been, the last great president was Kennedy
He’s always been an establishment guy. The whole “Hail Trump” shtick was so cringe I could see through it from the beginning. This guy never liked Trump.
That was awesome, respect to nojumper for hosting that.
But he refuses to have Scott Adams on again?
@@__-bz7wh imagine pining for Scott Adams after watching that. Please show yourself out the door.
so happy to see Richard Spencer ditched his alt right ideology and delved into philosophy in general. We need more of this, he has come a long way.
It's clear you know nothing of Spencer. He's always been deeply philosophical.
I’d love to see a full time monthly pod with this group truly interesting
This use to be a normal thing but yt deleted anything to do with. They think preventing people like this to speak is deplatforming when its only gonna make everyone angry at the wrong person
-says no person except you
Richard Spencer definitely radiates feminine energy.
They both do 😂
You like that ?
Everyone in the video “radiates feminine energy” lol
@@kcck7588😂😂😂
They're all cucks 😂
Truly a bizarre timeline where Richard Spencer is arguing from the Left and Destiny is arguing from the Right.
They're not... How damaged is your brain lol
Ayo this conversation was hella good. Make sure y’all like and share this shit around
i see people hating on adam for this interview and i ask did you even watch this interview lol this was 10/10. i love new adam and old adam
I'm not a Spencer guy but I'm glad you had the courage to host folks like that to speak with Destiny
You are fully okay to switch your voting party as one sees fit or as they address your needs.
It's pretty crazy how so dedicated to one party or another everybody is- it probably shouldn't be a defining factor of your personality.
Amazing debate and video! Want more from no jumper like this !
The real crime here is destiny wearing some nice brown boots while Spencer wears some dorky new balances. Complete subversion of expectations.
Spencer is on another level here
I’ve had some good burgers in my time.
I love a good Swiss, melted Swiss cheese and mushrooms, roasted mushrooms, and caramelized onions on a burger.
That is hot stuff.
You can get that at a number of different places.
Making the alt right jokes and snide comments is so boring and passé. Can we move on and realize and accept when people want to change and grow. Would u want that right to be taken away from yourself ? I don’t think so. Let’s have more of these engaging dialogues. This was one of the best talks I’ve seen so far in the year. Richard and destiny are both great speakers and hold the audience. It was a respectful exchange, let’s welcome this approach people.
Great show. Highlights the good qualities of all involved.
This is the last channel I expected this to happen on but also one of the best for it to happen on.
So glad flakko or trell wasn't on this panel 😂
This was so interesting to listen to. Great content 💜
Adam has really changed my opinion about him. A big part of that is him engaging with different voices and pushing back on certain viewpoints and not just platforming. Destiny is a big part of that🤝
Three white dudes discussing society, with one of them proudly being one of the biggest neo-nazi racists in recent history. This convo is pointless w/o anyone else on the panel. And no, I'm not talking about AD, Flako, or any no jumper staff. But I guarantee you this convo would be different with a diverse panel of thinkers. Can't talk about black or brown people on a forum like this without no representation from black or brown people to provide a response and have a real discussion. Straight like that. 🤷🏽♂️
I def agree Stevens had an amazing impact on Adam
he lost me at Joe Biden being the best president
Same …like wtf!?
Why ???
it’s an opinion
And liberals knowing how to govern 😏 Conservatives build the nations, liberals destroy them.. It's an eternal cycle in every nation that has ever existed and it's the same thing now..
@@gee2661 it's an incorrect opinion
He’s a fucking liar. This guy is actually a Nazi. How can you not see how he’s trying to whitewash his image?
Adam might be Buddy of the Year
Of all the people on in the internet, I didn’t expect Adam22 to host such an intellectually challenging show. Finally, we have a podcast where diametrically opposed speakers can debate without angry commenters or enraged bystanders interrupting their flow. We need more of these conversations.
Love the thought provoking interviews/ debates!!
Been waiting a long time for this match up. Thanks No Jumper
No Jumper killin it with the guests.
@Truth seeker Did you watch it?
@Truth seeker ex lol I dont trust Richard Spencer lmao
@Truth seeker idk if youre memeing, but you just said “ex” white supremacist.. which… is a good thing…. No? Im not saying to dive in naively, but humans human, and can be, infact, redeemable. This was a fantastic podcast intro with Destiny kinda ensuring nothing crazy doesnt go unchecked. In order to heal the current political nonsense, bridges must be built, and convos must be had or its just going to be the same doomer sh* fighting forever. Do you disagree?
Edit: didnt see your second comment saying youre joking. Apologies. 💙
These comments about Richard changing are clearly from people who don't follow him. He hasn't changed any of his ideas, he still talks much about hierarchy and promotes it in almost every point he has but in an appealing for normie audience manner. In this interview you can see him not wanting to touch the race question, not because it's not important for him, but because he didn't want to look bad for the target audience, it's really that simple.
Yeah even in the interview if you paid attention to his explanation he didn't change his views so much as he changed his priorities in life
@@joshuabrant3487"strength and weakness" real conservative hierarchy talking points
1:03:00 This music convo is super interesting because i think we saw something similar happen to video games. The sixth generation of gaming (GCN, XB, PS2) was the final era where you were guaranteed to be nerds if you liked video games. With the launch of the PS2, gaming became more mainstream. And it changed everything. Suddenly all game consoles had to be fully online and be able to do things other than load video games to compete. I don't think it's a coincidence that the criticisms people make of popular music being overproduced and derivative is the same as the criticisms almost all other forms of popular entertainment now.
Just something i found interesting.
Adam is so versatile. Being able to direct conversations on all sorts of topics with people from opposite sides of political extremes. No Jumper is really going places.
Yeah he knows how to talk to adults as well as minors.
This interview and the other one with Destiny with the dude you kept joking was a red pill agent for Fresh and Fit were fkn amazing and so out of left field from what I expected from this channel. I don't make it a point to sit through 3 hour podcasts super often but I watched both of these with intense focus the entire way through. I didn't even know wtf to expect with Richard Spencer but it was not what I was expecting in the least. The only gripe/negative thing I have to say that there were numerous times that one person wanted to state their opinion or rebuttal or finish their argument or statement while the other person would try to jump in, but it was always handled in a super professional and non antagonistic way. Almost to a fault, where I would lose track mentally of what the point the speaker was trying to make and it seemed like the other side sort of did as well. But this was an enjoyable as fk conversation to watch. Continue to do these. I enjoy the pure entertainment "Katsumi and her friends talk about getting trained up by 50 dudes" interviews but those kinda get old after a while. I was on a No Jumper binge for a while but the content seemed to be getting stale and I fell off keeping up with the podcast. But this new shit you doing is straight fire Adam.
I really enjoyed the show way better than your other content 👏🏽