I have the b14, HMR in 308.. With a swfa 10x42 scope.. It's a tac driver.. trigger arrived about 2.7 lbs pull. Federal premium gold medal Sierra match, 175 grain's are perfect.. I'm very satisfied with the quality..
6.5 Creedmoor is ¢98 per round at it's cheapest right now. I gotta stick with .308/7.62x51 for my bolt gun simply because of price and availability. All these new powerful rounds are great - price and availability are the issue. I bought my first bolt gun this year - definitely changed my view on a survival/scout/recon type setup.
The 308 and 6.5 creed ammo are almost 20 cent difference. The 6.5 is going to give you far more consistency out past 600 yards… myself id rather pay the extra change for a cartridge that will make hitting targets out to 1k a bit easier and more reliable. But if you dont shoot out that far, the 308 is just fine
@@Problematicbehavior I currently have a Springfield Armory M1A Scout Squad in .308 and just added a bolt gun in .308. These are the only 308s I have. If I were to start over going with 6.5 would make more FUTURE sense as more guns become chambered in 6.5 and hopefully price of that ammo goes down but I was unfortunately already on the 308 path.
Great video mate, great camera quality, the whole video was great in general. Cheers from Australia, i just ordered the exact same rofle this morning in .308
I paid 850 for my wilderness HMR as a demo rifle from europic and ai paired it with a vortex pst gen 2. Shoots stupid well and did not break the bank on either rifle or optic.
I have a 308 B14 HMR and it is accurate, but fussy about ammo if you want to shoot 1/2 moa or less. Mine likes the loads at or near max, and seated out as far as the mag will permit. Its still well off the lands with a spitzer bullet.
I loaded up some Hornady Interlocks for mine( sub moa!) and took it hunting once.I' m a still hunter and it is far too heavy for me ,even on short hunt. For watching a field or similar it would be great.
Got 3 HMRs now. Their 300prc, 308, and their cva paramount 45 caliber black powder. Even the paramount shoots sub moa. Had the 308 from their initial release. Great shooting rifles. Plus got a few of their other models in other calibers. Not an issue with a single one of them
@@jasonmorris159 it's a consistent sub moa rifle with the precision hunter ammo. I liked it enough I got a wilderness ridge in 300prc as well. I've found that one to be every bit as accurate as the HMR
Great video, I just saw it today & subscribed to your channel. I picked up a Wilderness HMR in 6.5 Creedmore last year & love it. I was shooting too many rounds through my hunting rifles at steel plates and this rifle fits the deal better, plus, I’m not burning out the barrels on my hunting rifles 😂 One thing I want to correct you on was your comment that the only differences between the standard HMR & Wilderness HMR was only cosmetic, which you listed, but you missed something that was very important to me was barrel length between the two. The standard HMR has a barrel length of 22” and the Wilderness has a barrel length of 24”. As a hand loader (with 2 chronographs 😂), that extra 2” makes a difference at bullet velocity leaving the muzzle, which affects overall bullet drop, drift, etc…I have seen anywhere’s between 30 & 50 fps per inch faster on longer barrel lengths.
I also need to add, the 22” in the standard HMR & 24” in the Wilderness HMR are listed in the Bergara catalog for the 6.5 Creedmore caliber. There are other barrel lengths for other calibers, but overall, it looks like the Standard HMR’s run shorter barrel lengths.
If you want accurate rifle ammunition you should load your own. While there are but a small handful of factory rifle Ammo which is semi dependable, repeatable and reliable, like Nosler, loading your own so that you can supervise every aspect of cartridge development, build, Bullet selection, proper powder and brass, concentricity testing, primers etc, is the only realistic means by which one can develop match grade ammunition. Once I ditched the rotating presses and went to the arbor press-hand trickling exact powder amounts-I began to get ammunition which I personally knew to be “match grade,”. This includes weighing each bullet and the use of an arbor press with LE Wilson chamber type micrometer seating die. I check concentricity with the Hornady unit. Almost 100% of the time using the methods I’ve outlined you’re never off more than a thou, possibly thou and a half. With factory, I’ve found that Nosler is the most accurate with repeatable results. I also use their reloading bullets, like the LR Accubond. I refuse to be one of those guys at Sportsmans Warehouse desperately hoping they have my fav factory Ammo on hand…
308 only way to go. Ammo cheap and easy to find anywhere. Plus I use it in my AR10 and M1A1. Creed is nice but for most needs within 200 yards or a little more I think the 308 is so much more versatile. But again, I'm looking for a combo hunting survival gun. I'm going to see if I can order one of these soon.
Walked into my local gun store today just to do my occasional walk around to see what I could see. Had no intention of buying anything, but they had this beauty sitting on the shelf. Id been looking at these rifles for a bit but was never able to find one in the store. They really are a little hard to find. Been told by several FFL's they could order one for me, but its always "we can order it but we dont know when we will get it, which is how it tends to be these days. Well I dont mind ordering things, but Im not one to give up my money and not know when Ill get the product so I never did that. They happened to have one on the shelf today, so I picked it up. Think Im going to pair it with a Tract Toric 4.5-30x56 that is currently just sitting in a box, unless I come across something else I prefer to put on it.
I would disagree I’d be happy to hike that or a 12-13lb rifle around. If you shoot it better take it and train harder. The weapon is what makes the meat
It would be nice to see 3 shot groups on all of the blue circles. Basically 10 - 3 shot groups to have enough data to really know what the rifle can be expected to do.
That would make a very long video and a lot of ammo on a video which would become monotonous. Also to be fair, this is a sample size of one, this rifle is very accurate and all Bergara rifles I have shot have been, but no guarantee someone else’s will perform the same.
Just picked up a wilderness today with a vortex scope, some special big old muzzle break and bi pod been shot 4 times to scope in got it for 1,200. I thought it was a good deal but it is heavy as crap.
So target/match/short hunting = heavy is ok long hunting = lighter Guess I'll need more bolt actions for prep than I thought. Always good to have more reason to buy more guns 😂😂 👍
Thanks for the video I have been pondering between savage the cross and bagara my friends like to have competition shoots from time to time so I did away with the cross and now the savage after looking at more reviews of the bagara. I do plan on using it for hunting also but I try to hike no more than 500 yards from my truck anymore unless I'm on a horse . Thanks again I did sub
Don’t buy ONE…… Buy TWO of them. I have 2 x HMR B14 rigs. One is a tight twist .22-250 with a 9” twist barrel. It launches the 75 grain HPBT laser straight and lights out to 700m. The other is a 6.5 CM and sends the 147 ELD-M out past 1000yards. Life is Good!! I’m covered!! Peace Be The Journey!
this is the rifle i would like to get in 7prc soon. paired with a 6x25x56 arken scope. just to be abel to hunt long range with and to get into precision shooting. funny enough id take it to thunder valley precision as well haha.
You should consider the Carbon Wilderness HMR in 7 PRC if you want a long range hunting rifle. I would also check out some other options because available from Bergara is very limited in the long action stuff
Who would want to hike 100 miles in week in the mountains using a 14lb rifle? That sounds miserable. I have hiking plenty of mountains with packs and rifles/archery. Anywhere you can shed weight you do. Besides, do I look like it’s too heavy for me based off my appearance?
They are really nice but it won’t be as flashy nor polished as the fierce. Haven’t had the opportunity to shoot one, but seem nice. I do like Christensen Arms Rifles the most of the three
I just bought it in 6.5 creedmoor. I’m not a Hunter but maybe one day but i am just getting into long range and i think this will serve me well! For attachment of a Bipod- does it come with the picatinny rail underneath the forend? Thanks for the video!
Bergara claims “Remington pattern ” with their B14 series rifles. That applies only to the receiver . If you want to make changes, such as a 3rd party bottom metal, you can’t. Everything other than the receiver is proprietary to Bergara! The other source of confusion is “AICS Pattern” magazines. AICS “pattern” magazines is about the design, not the length. One might expect 300 Win Mag in an HMR “match” rifle, to have a match length magazine like the typical AICS 3.850. You would be wrong! The HMR uses Pmags regular AICS pattern Long Action magnum magazine, which has a 3.53” max length. Depending on your intentions with a “Match” rifle, the short magazine could become a very severe handicap. And no. Bergara will not sell you a replacement bottom metal.
The short action accepts Pmags and metal AICS with no issues on the 6.5 Creedmoor stuff. I can’t speak for the long action. Thanks for sharing your experience and input!
I have the left hand B14 HMR (not wilderness) in 300 win mag. Vortex scope, Atlas bipod, and Ultradyne Apollo LR .300 Win Mag muzzle break. Put this together as a birthday present to me and will test it out on April 1.
I own a B-14 HMR in 6.5CM. Accurate? Sure. Reliable? Yep. Light enough that I'd want to take it into the backcountry? Absolutely not. That thing is HEAVY. It's clearly focused more on the precision market than the hunting space, or at least the western hunts where you're not sitting in a blind on the edge of a bean field.
Early models didn’t have the fluted bolt but it’s only cosmetic and does nothing for function. They also barely flute it so there isn’t any weight savings
How much of an issue is the stock on the Bergara wilderness ridge, I've heard some say the stock on the hmr is significantly better, but I am wanting it specifically for hunting.
It is significantly better, but also heavier. By almost two pounds. The ridge stock would be fine for hunting, I owned a standard ridge and it shot very well. Just not stiff and a standard run of the mill sporter style stock. The HMR stock is hard fiberglass with a mini chassis built in, so it it’s stiffer with more features as well.
What about Sig Sauer Cross ? We can do shooting and hunting. It is lighter but much expensive. This one remind me about my ex Sig Sauer SSG Patrol...😥😥👋🏻👋🏻
There’s a reason we haven’t reviewed that rifle yet and don’t really have any intentions to. Likely due to a bad release but regardless, I would take a rifle from Bergara before sig.
If you are willing to spend the extra money, the waypoint is hands down a nicer rifle. If you don’t want to spend 2k, the HMR is a great rifle with really nothing to complain about. I will say if I could only have one, I would spend the money on the waypoint. Granted a sample size of one, the waypoint we had was about twice as accurate and would shoot 1/4” groups without trying.
@Hunt Fish Shoot thanks for replying..headed to look at the Waypoint now...interestingly it looks like Bergara is also introducing a new fiber carbon barrel at this year's shot show...
Be careful with these videos. A friend of mine each bought this gun in 6.5 PRC after watching everyone hype sub moa groups on TH-cam. I have shot close to 200 rounds with mine and my friend about half that. They will do 3 shots sub MOA roughly 30% of the time with Hornady Match ammo or their ELD-X. Group sizes are very inconsistent and I have seen 2” groups out of mine but usually they are in the 1 1/4” range. All shots off a rock solid base to eliminate human factors as much as possible. It’s very inconsistent and very sensitive to barrel fouling. I’ve been over the gun checking everything and cleaned the paint off of the bedding in the stock. No improvement on either gun. Yes they shoot sub MOA….. occasionally. These are not consistent, repeatable sub MOA guns like TH-cam makes them out to be. I’m going to develop a hand load next to see what I can do before sending it back to Bergara. These videos seem to always be using 6.5 CM. Maybe that’s the ticket to getting consistent group sizes.
Can’t speak for the other calibers and only this sample size of one. However from past experience, I have owned a standard HMR in 6.5 Creedmoor and 300 Win Mag Ridge. All of them have shot below an MOA with ease. Or I should say Hornady Match or Precision Hunter because it’s always available and shoots great. This particular rifle had about 250 rounds through it at the time of the video with no cleaning whatsoever. I’m in the I don’t clean or break in my barrel camp until it’s so dirty the groups open up. With any video, viewers have to have the where with all that the gun is a sample size of one or two maybe.
This guy is really judging the accuracy of a rifle model with a sample of one? This says a lot about his basic knowledge on firearms. And probably on his ability to shoot
@@ssimossimo576 Yeah one rifle is only just one rifle. In my case there are two identical rifles both shooting the same off of bench rests. If a company advertises a sub-MOA guarantee, then they should all be capable of that with same ammo.
@@LSC2001 that's totally wrong. You are confirming me thst you have no idea how accuracy guarantees work on rifles. Bergaras are usually very accurate: i have two, for what it matters, and they both shoots about 0.2-0.4 MOA with factory ammo they like. Not with any factory ammo and not with the same ones. Every rifle favours one or more cartridge and can shoot many other ones less accurately. Bergara says which ammo they use for testing accuracy for every caliber in the us anyway. If the rifle is not up to the standards when they test it affer you send it back, they will fix it
@@ssimossimo576 two rifles I have seen from Bergara will not shoot sub moa consistently with the 147 ELD - M that they have used for their own testing. If we need to send two rifles back because they didn’t meet the guarantee then that’s pretty disappointing.
10:09 You think those are good groups? A 3/4 MOA and 1.3 MOAish 3-shot group? Lol. You definitely won't be winning any matches with that turd of a rifle. That's the performance I'd expect from a $350 rifle from Walmart.
with random factory loads. You could handload and tighten the groups up and then throw it in a vise like lead sled too. Thanks for your input Bob Lee 👍
@@HuntFishShootChannel Sure you could...I have a B-14 HMR in 308. It's easily the worst shooting rifle I've ever owned. The best it shoots is ~1 MOA for 5-shot groups with hand loads. Unfortunately that meets Bergarbage's 1 MOA 3-shot guarantee so they won't do anything to it. Also, Bergara specifically says that if you shoot hand loads your warranty is void. Anyway, I have a Tikka CTR that average
@@timothym2241 What bullets and powder did you use? I tried over a dozen different bullets, 4 different powders, and the factory rounds Bergara recommended. Mine was a complete piece of crap. It’s not a big deal getting a lemon but Bergara had no interest in making it right. I sent it to them to get it looked at twice. The 2nd time they sent it back with rust all over the bolt and inside the barrel too. I’ve shot in the 1s with my Tikka at 100 yards and it isn’t fussy about ammo.
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I have the b14, HMR in 308..
With a swfa 10x42 scope..
It's a tac driver.. trigger arrived about 2.7 lbs pull.
Federal premium gold medal Sierra match, 175 grain's are perfect.. I'm very satisfied with the quality..
Great!
6.5 Creedmoor is ¢98 per round at it's cheapest right now. I gotta stick with .308/7.62x51 for my bolt gun simply because of price and availability. All these new powerful rounds are great - price and availability are the issue. I bought my first bolt gun this year - definitely changed my view on a survival/scout/recon type setup.
For my current needs, I would definitely stick with .308 as well.
Thanks for the input and watching!
The 308 and 6.5 creed ammo are almost 20 cent difference. The 6.5 is going to give you far more consistency out past 600 yards… myself id rather pay the extra change for a cartridge that will make hitting targets out to 1k a bit easier and more reliable. But if you dont shoot out that far, the 308 is just fine
Both are great rounds for sure! Glad to have them both!
@@Problematicbehavior I currently have a Springfield Armory M1A Scout Squad in .308 and just added a bolt gun in .308. These are the only 308s I have. If I were to start over going with 6.5 would make more FUTURE sense as more guns become chambered in 6.5 and hopefully price of that ammo goes down but I was unfortunately already on the 308 path.
Great video mate, great camera quality, the whole video was great in general. Cheers from Australia, i just ordered the exact same rofle this morning in .308
Hell yeah! Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it!
Just ordered my first bergara today. HMR wilderness 7mm rem mag. Can't wait
Hell yeah! It should be a shooter! That’s a gonna be a nice weight for the magnum caliber!
I paid 850 for my wilderness HMR as a demo rifle from europic and ai paired it with a vortex pst gen 2. Shoots stupid well and did not break the bank on either rifle or optic.
That’s a smoking deal! Hell yeah! Great set up you got and hard to beat!
That’s a sweet deal, EuroOptic has the best price on this rifle by far.
Just paid $920 for one right now. They’re having a nice sale
I just ordered one in 308, so excited!
Hell yeah! Enjoy it!
Just ordered one in 300 win mag. So damn excited.
Hell yeah!
I have a 308 B14 HMR and it is accurate, but fussy about ammo if you want to shoot 1/2 moa or less. Mine likes the loads at or near max, and seated out as far as the mag will permit. Its still well off the lands with a spitzer bullet.
Good to know!
Hope your right cause I just bought one in 7mm rem mag
I mean I can guarantee anything to you in all fairness but this rifle and the other one we have, has been great!
@HuntFishShootChannel I'm sure it's a fine rifle. Thanks
I have this in 300 win mag with an Arken EP5 optic and love it. I do wish it was lighter for hunting trips though
It can be heavy no doubt!
Love my hmr it shoots 3/4 to half inch all day
Same here!
Got mine for $989 plus tax in 308 and love it
Heck yeah! Great deal!
Nice review. Good to see someone say “it’s to heavy”. 👍🏻
She would be a thick one to carry around! Thanks for watching Rick!
I loaded up some Hornady Interlocks for mine( sub moa!) and took it hunting once.I' m a still hunter and it is far too heavy for me ,even on short hunt. For watching a field or similar it would be great.
Agreed! It’s too heavy for hunting rifle on a backpack type hunt. It’s a shooter though!
Got 3 HMRs now. Their 300prc, 308, and their cva paramount 45 caliber black powder. Even the paramount shoots sub moa. Had the 308 from their initial release. Great shooting rifles. Plus got a few of their other models in other calibers. Not an issue with a single one of them
Awesome, they are great rifles for sure!
How do you like the 300 prc in this rifle? I've heard nothing but good things. What kind of accuracy are you getting out of it?
@@jasonmorris159 it's a consistent sub moa rifle with the precision hunter ammo. I liked it enough I got a wilderness ridge in 300prc as well. I've found that one to be every bit as accurate as the HMR
@D_Rock ok fine, you talked me into it. I'll buy one haha
Great video, I just saw it today & subscribed to your channel. I picked up a Wilderness HMR in 6.5 Creedmore last year & love it. I was shooting too many rounds through my hunting rifles at steel plates and this rifle fits the deal better, plus, I’m not burning out the barrels on my hunting rifles 😂 One thing I want to correct you on was your comment that the only differences between the standard HMR & Wilderness HMR was only cosmetic, which you listed, but you missed something that was very important to me was barrel length between the two. The standard HMR has a barrel length of 22” and the Wilderness has a barrel length of 24”. As a hand loader (with 2 chronographs 😂), that extra 2” makes a difference at bullet velocity leaving the muzzle, which affects overall bullet drop, drift, etc…I have seen anywhere’s between 30 & 50 fps per inch faster on longer barrel lengths.
I also need to add, the 22” in the standard HMR & 24” in the Wilderness HMR are listed in the Bergara catalog for the 6.5 Creedmore caliber. There are other barrel lengths for other calibers, but overall, it looks like the Standard HMR’s run shorter barrel lengths.
Fair enough, was not aware of that and I apologize! Thanks for the information and watching.
If you want accurate rifle ammunition you should load your own. While there are but a small handful of factory rifle Ammo which is semi dependable, repeatable and reliable, like Nosler, loading your own so that you can supervise every aspect of cartridge development, build, Bullet selection, proper powder and brass, concentricity testing, primers etc, is the only realistic means by which one can develop match grade ammunition. Once I ditched the rotating presses and went to the arbor press-hand trickling exact powder amounts-I began to get ammunition which I personally knew to be “match grade,”. This includes weighing each bullet and the use of an arbor press with LE Wilson chamber type micrometer seating die. I check concentricity with the Hornady unit. Almost 100% of the time using the methods I’ve outlined you’re never off more than a thou, possibly thou and a half. With factory, I’ve found that Nosler is the most accurate with repeatable results. I also use their reloading bullets, like the LR Accubond. I refuse to be one of those guys at Sportsmans Warehouse desperately hoping they have my fav factory Ammo on hand…
Thanks for sharing your input Quigley!
Had the 6.6 PRC...nice rifle ... too heavy at this age, purchased the Sig Cross 308 WIN.... perfect light weight tack driver.
It is a heavy one and glad to hear you found a rifle you like!
I like the stock camo!
I bought the HMR .300 win mag. I love it
Awesome!
308 only way to go. Ammo cheap and easy to find anywhere. Plus I use it in my AR10 and M1A1. Creed is nice but for most needs within 200 yards or a little more I think the 308 is so much more versatile. But again, I'm looking for a combo hunting survival gun. I'm going to see if I can order one of these soon.
Great input!
Walked into my local gun store today just to do my occasional walk around to see what I could see. Had no intention of buying anything, but they had this beauty sitting on the shelf. Id been looking at these rifles for a bit but was never able to find one in the store. They really are a little hard to find. Been told by several FFL's they could order one for me, but its always "we can order it but we dont know when we will get it, which is how it tends to be these days. Well I dont mind ordering things, but Im not one to give up my money and not know when Ill get the product so I never did that. They happened to have one on the shelf today, so I picked it up. Think Im going to pair it with a Tract Toric 4.5-30x56 that is currently just sitting in a box, unless I come across something else I prefer to put on it.
Heck yeah! Great pick up! They shoot great and are very well made. Thanks for sharing !
Great review guys. I love my Bergara rifles, as they seem to have a rifle to fit just about every need/use. Thanks for sharing!
They are great rifles!!! Thanks for watching!
I would disagree I’d be happy to hike that or a 12-13lb rifle around. If you shoot it better take it and train harder. The weapon is what makes the meat
But if you can shoot a 9lb rifle just as well for a hunting set up, why would you? Pounds really add regardless of how much you train.
It would be nice to see 3 shot groups on all of the blue circles. Basically 10 - 3 shot groups to have enough data to really know what the rifle can be expected to do.
That would make a very long video and a lot of ammo on a video which would become monotonous. Also to be fair, this is a sample size of one, this rifle is very accurate and all Bergara rifles I have shot have been, but no guarantee someone else’s will perform the same.
Just picked up a wilderness today with a vortex scope, some special big old muzzle break and bi pod been shot 4 times to scope in got it for 1,200. I thought it was a good deal but it is heavy as crap.
It is definitely on the heavy side!
I picked up the same rifle but used with a vortex 6X 18x 44 crossfire II for 850 plus tax
Awesome!
So target/match/short hunting = heavy is ok
long hunting = lighter
Guess I'll need more bolt actions for prep than I thought. Always good to have more reason to buy more guns 😂😂
👍
You always need more guns ahahha
Thanks for the video I have been pondering between savage the cross and bagara my friends like to have competition shoots from time to time so I did away with the cross and now the savage after looking at more reviews of the bagara. I do plan on using it for hunting also but I try to hike no more than 500 yards from my truck anymore unless I'm on a horse . Thanks again I did sub
Thanks Michael! I feel you will be much happier with the Bergara than the other two brands. Bergara builds good rifles well known for their accuracy!
Thats the Big Daddy of rifles right there I love it going to have to see if it comes in 270 I love that round 😊
It’s great Rifle and they have tons of calibers!
Don’t buy ONE…… Buy TWO of them. I have 2 x HMR B14 rigs. One is a tight twist .22-250 with a 9” twist barrel. It launches the 75 grain HPBT laser straight and lights out to 700m. The other is a 6.5 CM and sends the 147 ELD-M out past 1000yards. Life is Good!! I’m covered!! Peace Be The Journey!
You sure are! Great choices!
I have a bergara b14 ridge 308. I am buying a bergara hmr stock. short action. Glass bedding has been done. will fit. on my barrel
Heck yeah! Will be a great set up!
this is the rifle i would like to get in 7prc soon. paired with a 6x25x56 arken scope. just to be abel to hunt long range with and to get into precision shooting. funny enough id take it to thunder valley precision as well haha.
You should consider the Carbon Wilderness HMR in 7 PRC if you want a long range hunting rifle. I would also check out some other options because available from Bergara is very limited in the long action stuff
Likely not hiking a lot is not a good assumption. If it's too heavy for you just send in my way then.
Who would want to hike 100 miles in week in the mountains using a 14lb rifle? That sounds miserable. I have hiking plenty of mountains with packs and rifles/archery. Anywhere you can shed weight you do. Besides, do I look like it’s too heavy for me based off my appearance?
If you have anything heavy like 20 lb you can send me 😁
Thats way smoother than a non premier rifle
This isn’t a premier rifle, but they are smooth!
The hmr wilderness also has a NO. 6 barrel the regular hmr has a 5 barrel
No. They both have No. 6 tapered barrels. It’s listed on the Bergara website as such.
@HuntFishShootChannel you are right bass pro has it advertised as a 5 but begaras website shows 6 I am wrong.
@hampsterstew1234321 hey no problem! Gotta watch those ads, they are often times incorrect!
That weight is the only reason I don’t have one. Thinking about a fierce
They are really nice but it won’t be as flashy nor polished as the fierce. Haven’t had the opportunity to shoot one, but seem nice. I do like Christensen Arms Rifles the most of the three
I just bought it in 6.5 creedmoor. I’m not a Hunter but maybe one day but i am just getting into long range and i think this will serve me well! For attachment of a Bipod- does it come with the picatinny rail underneath the forend? Thanks for the video!
No it does not, that’s an aftermarket Area 419 rail. Great fitment.
It will be a great rifle for you!
Thunder valley??? You’re in Ohio I see. I’m in the cleveland area
Yes we sure are! Northeast Ohio to your south!
Bergara claims “Remington pattern ” with their B14 series rifles. That applies only to the receiver . If you want to make changes, such as a 3rd party bottom metal, you can’t. Everything other than the receiver is proprietary to Bergara! The other source of confusion is “AICS Pattern” magazines. AICS “pattern” magazines is about the design, not the length. One might expect 300 Win Mag in an HMR “match” rifle, to have a match length magazine like the typical AICS 3.850. You would be wrong! The HMR uses Pmags regular AICS pattern Long Action magnum magazine, which has a 3.53” max length. Depending on your intentions with a “Match” rifle, the short magazine could become a very severe handicap. And no. Bergara will not sell you a replacement bottom metal.
The short action accepts Pmags and metal AICS with no issues on the 6.5 Creedmoor stuff. I can’t speak for the long action. Thanks for sharing your experience and input!
Do they make this in a left hand model?? Lefties are limited!!😢
Not sure! Haven’t seen one myself
Yes they do !!! Go check it out
I have the left hand B14 HMR (not wilderness) in 300 win mag. Vortex scope, Atlas bipod, and Ultradyne Apollo LR .300 Win Mag muzzle break. Put this together as a birthday present to me and will test it out on April 1.
Hell yeah
I own a B-14 HMR in 6.5CM. Accurate? Sure. Reliable? Yep. Light enough that I'd want to take it into the backcountry? Absolutely not. That thing is HEAVY. It's clearly focused more on the precision market than the hunting space, or at least the western hunts where you're not sitting in a blind on the edge of a bean field.
Exactly!
I love b14 hmr wilderness. How do you get your bolt so smooth. I have the same rifle. The bolt isn’t as smooth as yours.
It was smooth to begin with but this rifle in the video had about 400 rounds through it when we filmed
@@HuntFishShootChannel ah, ok, i don’t think i have one hundred rounds through mine yet…thanks
what brand picatinny rail did you use for the bipod? how did you mount it
Area 419 and I used the two sling studs!
I cannot find the wilderness ridge SP with a fluted bolt..
Early models didn’t have the fluted bolt but it’s only cosmetic and does nothing for function. They also barely flute it so there isn’t any weight savings
How much of an issue is the stock on the Bergara wilderness ridge, I've heard some say the stock on the hmr is significantly better, but I am wanting it specifically for hunting.
It is significantly better, but also heavier. By almost two pounds. The ridge stock would be fine for hunting, I owned a standard ridge and it shot very well. Just not stiff and a standard run of the mill sporter style stock. The HMR stock is hard fiberglass with a mini chassis built in, so it it’s stiffer with more features as well.
How did you mod the bottom with pic rail
That is an Area 419 sling stud pic rail. Not sure on the exact model of the top of my head but they have several different lengths!
What is the tripod and plate set up??
Tripod is a Vortex Carbon Radian and the plates are from challenge steel
What about Sig Sauer Cross ?
We can do shooting and hunting.
It is lighter but much expensive.
This one remind me about my ex Sig Sauer SSG Patrol...😥😥👋🏻👋🏻
There’s a reason we haven’t reviewed that rifle yet and don’t really have any intentions to. Likely due to a bad release but regardless, I would take a rifle from Bergara before sig.
Hi, which rifle scope did you mount there?
Vortex Razor HD LHT 4.5-22x50 MOA
Do you think this Bergara HMR is comparable to the Waypoint 2020? Which would you recommend in 308..
If you are willing to spend the extra money, the waypoint is hands down a nicer rifle. If you don’t want to spend 2k, the HMR is a great rifle with really nothing to complain about. I will say if I could only have one, I would spend the money on the waypoint. Granted a sample size of one, the waypoint we had was about twice as accurate and would shoot 1/4” groups without trying.
@Hunt Fish Shoot thanks for replying..headed to look at the Waypoint now...interestingly it looks like Bergara is also introducing a new fiber carbon barrel at this year's shot show...
They are indeed! Look for us to have content on it! We are headed to SHOT tomorrow morning!
What height rings did you use?
Those are medium height pro series rings
How u like this vs the Waypoint?
I would take the waypoint over this any day but it does cost 1000 dollars more. This is a great rifle for the money but it’s not waypoint nice.
Bolt Fluting is not just for looks...
In this case, yes it is.
I want one but everybody is out of stock?
They are very tough to find unfortunately
Sportsmans warehouse got all of them in all calibers
Sauer 100xt 300wm or this?
This! Aftermarket support is better and the stock on this is great.
This would have been much more interesting if there was more shooting and less talking. AND we could see the shots downrange.
Thanks for the input.
I just bought one of these junkie things i hate it i wise to god i had my money back
Be careful with these videos. A friend of mine each bought this gun in 6.5 PRC after watching everyone hype sub moa groups on TH-cam. I have shot close to 200 rounds with mine and my friend about half that. They will do 3 shots sub MOA roughly 30% of the time with Hornady Match ammo or their ELD-X. Group sizes are very inconsistent and I have seen 2” groups out of mine but usually they are in the 1 1/4” range. All shots off a rock solid base to eliminate human factors as much as possible. It’s very inconsistent and very sensitive to barrel fouling. I’ve been over the gun checking everything and cleaned the paint off of the bedding in the stock. No improvement on either gun. Yes they shoot sub MOA….. occasionally. These are not consistent, repeatable sub MOA guns like TH-cam makes them out to be. I’m going to develop a hand load next to see what I can do before sending it back to Bergara. These videos seem to always be using 6.5 CM. Maybe that’s the ticket to getting consistent group sizes.
Can’t speak for the other calibers and only this sample size of one. However from past experience, I have owned a standard HMR in 6.5 Creedmoor and 300 Win Mag Ridge. All of them have shot below an MOA with ease. Or I should say Hornady Match or Precision Hunter because it’s always available and shoots great. This particular rifle had about 250 rounds through it at the time of the video with no cleaning whatsoever. I’m in the I don’t clean or break in my barrel camp until it’s so dirty the groups open up.
With any video, viewers have to have the where with all that the gun is a sample size of one or two maybe.
This guy is really judging the accuracy of a rifle model with a sample of one? This says a lot about his basic knowledge on firearms. And probably on his ability to shoot
@@ssimossimo576 Yeah one rifle is only just one rifle. In my case there are two identical rifles both shooting the same off of bench rests. If a company advertises a sub-MOA guarantee, then they should all be capable of that with same ammo.
@@LSC2001 that's totally wrong. You are confirming me thst you have no idea how accuracy guarantees work on rifles. Bergaras are usually very accurate: i have two, for what it matters, and they both shoots about 0.2-0.4 MOA with factory ammo they like. Not with any factory ammo and not with the same ones. Every rifle favours one or more cartridge and can shoot many other ones less accurately. Bergara says which ammo they use for testing accuracy for every caliber in the us anyway. If the rifle is not up to the standards when they test it affer you send it back, they will fix it
@@ssimossimo576 two rifles I have seen from Bergara will not shoot sub moa consistently with the 147 ELD - M that they have used for their own testing. If we need to send two rifles back because they didn’t meet the guarantee then that’s pretty disappointing.
Optic
Vortex Razor HD LHT 4.5-22
To heavy for me
Definitely on the heavier side
10:09 You think those are good groups? A 3/4 MOA and 1.3 MOAish 3-shot group? Lol. You definitely won't be winning any matches with that turd of a rifle. That's the performance I'd expect from a $350 rifle from Walmart.
with random factory loads. You could handload and tighten the groups up and then throw it in a vise like lead sled too. Thanks for your input Bob Lee 👍
@@HuntFishShootChannel Sure you could...I have a B-14 HMR in 308. It's easily the worst shooting rifle I've ever owned. The best it shoots is ~1 MOA for 5-shot groups with hand loads. Unfortunately that meets Bergarbage's 1 MOA 3-shot guarantee so they won't do anything to it. Also, Bergara specifically says that if you shoot hand loads your warranty is void.
Anyway, I have a Tikka CTR that average
boy are we spoiled, 1 moa turd !@@michaelhill6451
@@michaelhill6451I have a B14 HMR in 308, and with hand loads I am shooting at best, 0.3” 5 shot groups at 100 yards. It is fussy about ammo.
@@timothym2241 What bullets and powder did you use? I tried over a dozen different bullets, 4 different powders, and the factory rounds Bergara recommended. Mine was a complete piece of crap. It’s not a big deal getting a lemon but Bergara had no interest in making it right. I sent it to them to get it looked at twice. The 2nd time they sent it back with rust all over the bolt and inside the barrel too.
I’ve shot in the 1s with my Tikka at 100 yards and it isn’t fussy about ammo.
If you shoot enough, you WILL experience a pierced primer. You will then realize the importance of "shooting/safety" glasses.
Good review.
Ok thanks for watching!