There’s no way Rhaenyra would have killed her best friends son/little brother. He’s just using that to scare Alicent, he’s so abusive. If it wasn’t for Otto their relationship would be in a much better place.
He did use it to manipulate but she 100% would of had them killed. That is how hereditary dynasty's have always rolled throughout history. She wouldnt have wanted to but would of had to. Doesn't matter if Aegon diddnt want to be king or not. Someone somewhere would have propped him up as the rightful king and used him for their own ends. History is full of these situations including the war of the roses civil wars in England which is a huge inspiration for this story. It was even a problem in ancient Rome where the heir wasnt the oldest son of the emperor.
@@childrenoftheabzu ridiculous. This is fictional land not Rome or England. Rhaenyra was shown and only shown would never kill an innocent brother. Especially if he didn’t challenge for thrown like he even didn’t want to just Otto and Alicent made him. It was just manipulating her and she was dumb enough like you to believe it.
It's hinted that Viserys got an infectious desease from getting cut by the throne... So this illness is a metaphor for power and his position as King killing him slowly... Around episode 5, the actor confirmed it was a form of leprosy eating away his fllesh....
By thinking Criston is Rhaenyra's paramour, as in side piece, Joffrey thought Criston was "just like them", as in more open minded to a libertine lifestyle. Joffrey didn't know Criston walked away the moment he realized Rhaenyra had no intention to marry him. Criston was literally asking for a death sentence for his trangression. He's too puritanical. He's like a psychotic Ned Stark. Therefore when Joffrey approached him saying "we know about your little secret", Criston took Joffrey's politicking as a direct threat to his honor and his white cloak. If he was willing to die himself, what is he gonna do to someone else? The key here is to remember that Cole is a knight from the middle ages. His conception of morals and honor are not like ours. There is no "one night stand" in his dictionary.
OTTO has had this planned since episode 1 when he sent Allicent to the king chanbers. Otto knows they will not accept a queen, yet he suggested Rheanerya as heir... and look at the chaos it's causing
He suggested Rhaenyra as a stop gap measure to keep Daemon away from the throne to which Viserys wholeheartedly agreed with. Daemon is chaotic at best and a raging psychopath at his worst. Viserys might love his brother but he understood that Daemon needed to remain as far away from the iron throne as possible.
@Jose Hill it's all part of Otto plan. He gets daemon away from him as his current heir. By suggesting rheanerya, a woman, knowing they will not accept her. Sending his daughter to the king to start a union so Otto can get a boy heir from their union. It's all his plan.. at the end of episode 1, when rheanerya is crowned heir, you see the smirk on Otto face. He knows what he is doing.
How Cole didn't get fired for this is beyond me. Or killed. Not only did he harm the king consort, endanger the heir, cause havoc at a royal wedding, he also killed an innocent man that was a guest (or more) of house Valeryon. He should've been punished for this and I don't get why he wasn't.
Daemon killed her because she was the only thing standing in the way of him being allowed to marry Rhaenyra. (She even fingered that out herself when she was taunting him about being replaced as heir: “what will you do now? Will you strike the child down? Or-…..😳❗️” But obviously he was too late, she had already been betrothed to Laenor.
@@react2reactions246 well if you kept up to date on what Miya says on Patreon you'd know she's a few episodes ahead so to answer your question no it doesn't
“See Joffrey! You should have kept that big mouth of your SHUT!” I’m saying Lmaoo like why did you need to go and talk about it… The Jeffery’s in this show is just wild lol
criston is delusional and mad that rhaenyra wouldn’t give up everything to be with him after he broke his vows lmao, but in his defense in the books he didn’t straight up murder joffrey, it happened in a tourney
@Bottlife 240 the books are structured like history books so not everything that happened in the book’s actually happened and it was also mostly written by people that sided with the greens
@@andyrobin7196 no there not Fire and Blood is the same events as this but there just told as He say she say its not fact the show is showing us what actually happens
24:45 That man was Ser Harwin Strong. We've already seen him at least twice: First, he was the cute guy who was laughing and loving it when Rhaenyra came back into camp all bloody from killing the wild boar. Second, the night Rhaenyra snuck out into King's Landing, dressed as a boy, remember when she stole something from a vendor just to be a smartass? And then as she was running away, a guard or a knight stopped her, then realized it was her, and let her go. I think he just told her to be careful. He absolutely thought highly of Rhaenyra. His father is the hand, and his brother is the one with the clubfoot who ratted out Rhaenyra's tea to Alicent.
Daemon's wife was a Royce. If you'll remember Ser Royce of the Vale, in GoT, I think he was the Master at Arms. The large older man with white hair that questioned Sansa after Lysa was killed, and he didn't like Littlefinger. Rhea Royce would be his ancestor.
And in the opening scene of GOT where the three ride out from the wall the one in command who says "your dead men seem to have moved camp" is Ser Waymar Royce his son
Otto has been playing Alicent from the start. She's been too naive and a friend to Rhaenyra but dad is manipulating, he want's his line on the throne and now he's telling her that Rhaenyra is gonna kill her kids. The thing that pushed Alicent over the line is how Rhaernyra gets away with whatever she wants. Otto forced Alicent on the king. She's doing her duty and makes no mistakes. Rhaenyra goes around town, has sex in public and with her guard, lies about it including to her bff and gets away with it. Alicent now hates Rhaenyra's privilege. She also used her privilege to seduce Ser Cole. He's not from a noble house and he's really in love with her but she treats him like a play thing and if anyone found out, he'd lose everything he's worked for. When Jooffrey teased him, it pushed him over the edge. So he and Alicent now have something in common, their anger at Rhaenyra. Alicent wore green to show out for the Hightower's in front of everyone. But Rhaenyra & Alicent haven't aired anything out yet and they still have bff love for each other. Viserys is suffering from leprosy, and it makes him look a lot older than he is. I think it's a metaphor for how he's not suited for the throne. Lord Strong is the father of Ser harwin 'breakbones' strong who is really strong and he grabbed the princess. He's also the father of Larys Strong, the clubfoot who is now feeding info to Alicent. It's warming up.
The ending montage was my favorite scene up to this point. Give me the red hue of the weirdwood tree glowing in twilight, give me the dim lights, give me the gloomy ambience of a GoT wedding with an equally gloomy Ramin Djawadi soundtrack and hook it to my veins! That pause when Criston looks up and you hear the final note of that haunting tune is very well done. The uncharacteristically heartfelt exchange between Otto and Alicent is that decisive moment. It's the Tywin Jaime "we can establish a dynasty that last a thousand years" scene. We Light the Way is the motto of House Hightower. This is the episode the Greens come into their own. Out of this cursed wedding the ties that bind are lost and found forever. Rhaenyra and Laenor were exchanging wedding vows, but it was Alicent and Criston who were getting “married”.
Hey T hope you're keeping well my man!! Excellently phrased as always couldn't agree with you more the cinematography was incredible and Ramin Djawadi is just on a whole different level
Daemon wasn’t trynna make rhaenyra look bad so he can look better lol he literally did that so viserys would marry him to rhaenyra…the writer also said daemon killed his wife to marry rhaenyra
I think that Sir Criston prides himself as a morally strong and and above "immoral behavior ". And another man who according to that society is morally corrupt called him out on his own corruption and he couldn't handle that. He probably felt that Joeffrey deserves to die or at least doesn't belong in the company of the King Consort, maybe it goes against his ideals. Either way Criston and Alicent show behavior of people who idealized the world and believe that they should uphold those traditions and values and think they are above it all and fail to see their own immorality yet judge others.
We just interviewed the guy plays Laenor and he said there was a cut scene of him Joffrey where he goes back over and screws with him some more. 😮first time that was said.
And the 2 Beautiful house themes of House Velaryon when they walk in and House Hightower when Alicent walks in in all green lol...Ramin Djwadi never misses.
Technically Rhaenyra did not lie to Alicent. Alicent was accusing her about her sleeping with Daemon but technically Rhaenyra never slept with him. Rhaenyra at this point has no reason to trust Alicent. She knows at the end of the day that Alicent is queen first, Otto’s daughter second and Rhaenyra’s friend last. And if she told her that she had slept with Cristin then Alicent would ruin her and Aegon would become heir. She doesn’t trust Alicent to have her back and not tell Otto so she used the loophole that Alicent provided to protect herself and her position. Daemon didn’t take Rhaenyra’s maiden hood and that is the truth.
Omg when Alicent summons Criston and the baby is crying in the back...I thought it was Mom Dad and the Prodigal Son in the same room for the first time!! That woulda been too iconic 😭. But my man hasn't been born yet so that has to be sweet sweet Helaena!😭💚
Another favourite moment of mine this episode was Alicent’s green dress. Even ignoring the storytelling with her costuming: from wearing blues before marrying Viserys, to red after the wedding symbolising her trying to fit in with the Targaryens, and now green as she accepts her identity as a Hightower, it’s such a pivotal moment for her that had been building up for some time. She spoke up and defended Rhaenyra to Viserys which in her head, got her father fired and sent away from King’s Landing leaving her alone. So to find out that both her husband and Rhaenyra lied to her probably made her realise that she would never truly be one of them and she decided to carve out her own identity within her family. It’s the first time she stand up for herself this entire season.
alicent also feels really betrayed by rhaenyra because otto left and she took rhae’s side and believed her. in the scene where otto leaves he already places blame on her for his departure so now she thinks my dad is gone all for nothing, because he was right. and she probably feels even more guilty
Awesome reaction !❤ yeah this episode was crazy of course , wow otto said “let me brew some more poison into my daughters head and blame her too while I’m at it” what a great dad lmao ☺️💀 one thing I can say is the devil works hard but otto works harder smh 🤦🏾♀️ like clearly he does not care about alicent at all cause if he truly loved her he wouldn’t have put her through this mess that he created while still manipulating her and scaring into thinking her best friend will kill her kids because of his greed and ambition, criston coke is a tragic character smh I really liked him with rhaenrya even though it felt like they had a mutual connection , I get that he felt played but it felt like the only reason why he wanted to run away with her was because of what happened and not to actually marry her so that says a lot about him cause if he truly cared about his honor and oath he would’ve told rhaenrya no that night and she would’ve understand in my opinion! The royal engagement was dope , I loved the valerians they ate that entrance up ✨😍, Lmao visery’s was stressed out the whole time 😭, daemon being daemon 🤦🏾♀️💀😂, why would Joffrey open up his big mouth to criston knowing he looked like he was already on edge and was about to snap! 🙄😒🤦🏾♀️ Whew what an ending , I love your channel and your discussions❤💕✨☺️
Otto was right. He got fired because Alicent believed Rhaenyra's lie and backed her up to Viserys. Everything he's warning her about is true, her sons lives will be put in danger by Rhaenyra taking the throne. He did what any father in westeros would do, find a good match for his daughter that would benefit the family. Cole did tell Rhaenyra 'no' that night. He tried to leave and she blocked the exit, he asked her to stop and she ignored him and kept going. He didnt have the ability to consent since she was his boss and was actively rejecting his attempts to stop it from happening.
@@andyrobin7196 yes Ik but he knew that if he tried to undermine rhaenrya and tell visery’s which he was gonna back her up now even if it’s wrong which is also why visery’s called otto out on manipulating him for his own self interest which got him fired, otto knew damn well he could’ve married alicent to a another powerful house even if it’s not royalty and it would still benefit his family rather then put her through this royal political mess that could cost her life and children’s life because of his ambition and keeping his bloodline in the family through alicent , it’s interesting that you see it that way but for me yes in that moment it was wrong but rhae didn’t really force him or command him in anyway in my opinion other wise I feel like we would’ve gotten a different type of character from her lol and plus there was so many open chances for him to say no , for instances when he took his cloak off and laid it on the chair he paused for a good minute and she watched him patiently without a word until continued and kissed her back and wasn’t even rushed they took their time but he hesitated a few times because deep down they both liked each other and he couldn’t help it so he gave in rather than doing the right thing and she would’ve been understanding and let him leave in my opinion , it’s hard for some of us to see this world the way it is through our modern lens anyways good discussion tho ! ☺️
The reason Alicent is upset with Rhaenyra has to do with the fact that Rhaenyra lied to Alicent, but it also has to do with the fact that Alicent liked Ser Criston Cole. But I also don't understand why Alicent is upset with Rhaenyra if she's done much worse, had dates with the King for six months without saying anything to her best friend, who on top of that the King is Rhaenyra's father.
Rhaenyra got Otto sent back to Oldtown. Alicent took Rhaenyra’s side but then she found out she wasn’t being entirely truthful. Also keep in mind Viserys point blank told Alicent not to mention their time together to Rhaenyra. She couldn’t go against the king even if she wanted to.
So I think Cristin Cole’s overreaction to Joffrey can be explained a little because of his station. He’s from a very minor noble house on the border between Westeros and Dorne, so minor that he’s probably only a couple generations away from peasants (like Petry Baelish in GoT). Peasants historically in medieval Europe were actually able to marry because of “love”, believe in fairy tales like the princess running off with him to distant lands etc. unlike Rhaenrya who’s bound by duty, and always lived with debauchery and scheming of King’s Landing. So it wasn’t a big deal when she asked him to be his side piece but to him it was shattering his world view 😂 and then Joffrey was the final nail in the coffin.
This is the start of the blacks and the greens. Book Spoilers(If you don’t want them): In the books, there was a feast that celebrated the King and Queen’s fifth year of marriage together. Queen Alicent wore a green dress to the feast while Princess Rhaenyra wore a red and black dress. People took note of this and called the two factions blacks and greens. The blacks supported Princess Rhaenyra’s claim to the iron throne while the green’s supported the claims of Queen Alicent’s children. And now, Ser Criston Cole is one of the greens.
im not saying Joffrey was wrong in his intentions. He wanted them both to just do what they were doing and keep their secrets and do them. But the didn't know Criston Cole was def the wrong person to confide in, considering dude is super insanely unhinged
Otto and Daemon are actually more similar than I previously thought. Both second sons who are brutal and unrelenting in their pursuit for power. Yes, Daemon loves his family no doubt, but he also lists for power. He pursued Rhaenyra, attempted to tarnish her reputation, just so he could marry her and get closer to the crown. And when he couldn’t get her, (this isn’t a spoiler since you’ve seen the next episode) he weds Laena Velaryon, rider of the largest dragon in Westeros, and daughter of the second most powerful family in Westeros.
writers confirmed daemon never wanted the throne. He just wanted his brother attention. He never wanted the throne and they even said him marrying rhaenyra wasn’t for the throne but because he loved her so you not completely right with what you said. They even said that’s why he stayed mad at viserys for so long because he denied him the girl he actually loves.
@@Caraxes_RoguePrince Writers aren't god. What you see and hear in the show is what matters and you can have very different interpretations of what Daemon is and wants because he's such a non-character both here and in the book. You can't truly love a person while abandoning her naked and alone in a brothel, destroying her public reputation so she has to depend on you marrying her and then abusing her and strangling her. IMO he just wants to maintain his house supremacy and for many years he only could do that through Viserys and now he can keep doing it through Rhaenyra and as we see he's capable of being abusive to her when she doesn't act like he wants her to act as queen. He loves his family in the same way Tywin loved House Lannister. As a weapon against others, as a way of keeping the dragon glory and authority but being abusive, offensive and a constant headache to his individual familiars.
The 100 would be a good show to jump to after this.. Father Liamin strong also now hand of the king he has 2 sons sir harwin strong and Larys strong the clubfoot.. Sir harwin strong is also nicknamed sir harwin “breakbones” Hope that clears the air a bit.. 🐉🤘🏻😎🤘🏻🐉🔥
Velaryons don't appear in GoT because they aren't that important/rich anymore by that time, in the books they side with Stannis and their lord dies at the battle of the blackwater, then they are ruled by a child. There is also a Velaryon bastard that is on Cersei's small council purely because she has a crush on him and she thinks he looks like Rhaegar
Viserys has been deteriorating since the cut on his arm. His hand fingers are all missing in the scene where he tries to kill the deer. Wasn’t his hand missing in this episode? He’s got some sort of illness from getting cut by the throne. The book readers say getting cut by the throne is a bad omen.
21:27 Viserys suffers from Leprosy and with the death of Aemma who was his true love, it is as if a part of him had died and he let the disease advance as if it were some curse for what he did to Aemma, because instead of choosing to save her he thought only of saving his son and they both died.
As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. That is the story for Rhaenrya, Alicent and Criston Cole so far. This to me was the best ep of the first half. What an explosive way to round off the prologue. Now comes the gqme of thrones. The next ep is def a bit weird cause you're forced to adjust to the time jump and all the new characters. It's still a solid ep imo, it's fault is that it has too much information overload. But after that comes the best eps.
Technically rhaenyra didn’t lie to her. She said daemon and her didn’t F. Now other stuff... lol And daemons wife went for weapon. Technically he was self defense. Just speaking facts though yes he prob did go there to kill her lol.
Rhaenyra, much like us, was too complacement to see the forest for the trees. It's only fitting that while Viserys, Corlys, Rhaenys, Lionel Strong and all the rest of the gallery of clowns were bargaining and splitting hairs about who will sit on the iron throne and while the audience is too busy fawning over what kinda mustache twirling villainy Daemon is plotting, the chain of events that sets off the downfall of the mighty Targaryen dynasty starts with the two unlikliest of peoples finding each other on that cursed night.
Criston: Aka yet ANOTHER man who wants use a woman to fix his problems. He feels his white cloak is stained. “Marry me! It will clean me”- bruh sthapp. But Daemon/Rhaenyra scene was saucy!! Oh how them running away would have prevented so much😢.
the writers threw Cole's character under the bus here and made him act like a psycho against Joffrey just because they knew audiences were expecting something big and shocking to happen at a wedding after GoT
@@NoicesVoicesAfrica Rhaenyra's the asshole though, she used her power to make him give up his vow on a whim and never gave a second thought about what it would cost him even though she knew his position and his honour was the only thing he had in the entire world.
@@andyrobin7196 he coulda said no and not had sex with her lmao literally nothing would’ve happened if he said no other than rhaenyra being embarrassed and maybe not talking to him for a minute but it’s not like she would try to have him killed lol he is the idiot even the actor and the crew said it was consensual.
@@Caraxes_RoguePrince He did say no. He tried to leave and she blocked the exit. He asked her to stop and she ignored him and kept going. He couldnt physically shove her aside and run away since she had his life in her hands and could have had him fired or even killed with a snap of her fingers. Rhaenyra is shown to be entitled, spiteful, and petty, if he upsets her he would lose his position or even his life.
This story line with Alicent is stupid her caring about what Rheanyra does with her body is just weird. It’s straight jealousy. Alicents dad is sneaky is just ugh. To say the least.
It's because Rhaenyra does whatever she pleases without consequences, while Alicent is always living a life of obedience to her father and her husband, while being completely socially isolated.
The Velaryons are around during GOT but not as powerful a player since they were loyal to the Targaryens & Robert ofc didn’t like that. Ser Criston was just mad that Joffery knew about him & Rhaenyra. Alicent’s dress is the name of her side the greens vs the blacks which are Rhaenyra’s side. Oh & Daemon called his wife his bronze b*tch because house Royce was known as Bronze kings during the age of heros & it’s a nickname they carry that Daemon turned into a insult. Poor Laenor & even thought it wasn’t a wedding it was the welcome feast ish went down!
I loved that scene with Otto and Alicent. As brutal as it may seem, he was speaking the truth. Alicent’s sons would _always_ be an obstacle to Rhaenyra’s claim and Otto in that moment was pushing Alicent to advocate for herself and her children rather than trying to play the good wife and best friend.
If Rhaenyra wouldn’t do anything to her children then Daemon absolutely would. Be mad at Otto all you want but he was definitely playing the long game and in this game you either win or you die. There is no middle ground.
@@jjh2456 Yep. History teaches us that things can get out of their control very quickly for royals. Even if there were no hostility between them, other nobles could use other princes and conspire and push their claims. Tradition dictates that a male son comes before a daughter, and Viserys should have made more efforts to change that. Codify his own royal choice of heir as law, even before cultural customs or keep forcing new lords to repeat their father's vow of loyalty to the female heir. He made no such thing so both Aegon and Rhaenyra have a valid claim, which ensures chaos. Its the same with the bastards, really. No matter the appearance of peace or your non-bastard brother's good intentions, everything can change in a day and just one ambitious or insulted noble knowing the truth could be the birth of a potential rebellion, and as per Aegon: "everyone knows, father. Just look at them". Rhaenyra and Viserys are most definitely two of the main instigators of the war by simply inutility and by maintaining Daemon's lunatic ass close to power (at least Viserys did some things regarding this, while Rhaenyra outright married him lol Talking about respecting Viserys' will.)
@@jjh2456 exactly. It was never a matter of if, but _when_. Viserys was a fool and a coward to ever think he could bypass centuries of law and tradition without some kind of consequence.
I don’t get how you don’t understand why Otto is out.. Viserys started seeing that Otto was only out for himself. And therefore cannot be trusted. And Alicent has NO REASON to mad at Rhae! Rhae owes her 0. Alicent is her undesired step mother not her friend really anymore. Unless Alicent has feelings for Rhae or Daemon there is no reason for her to even care as much as she does about Princess Rhae Rhae getting her groove her on. Yet she does. Weird. And Rhae would never have Alicent’s children killed unless of course they come for her children and that’s another convo for another day… back to Otto, he’s been trying to hook up Alicent with the King since Jacaerys for gain so he’s a douche canoe 💯. He becomes the hand again down the road because Viserys is a Dodo but a loving one… but a doofus. 😂
Joffrey basically blackmailed Criston by telling him all of that. Laenor and Rhaenyra don't really lose anything with that "pact" being public but he's a kingsguard. He could be gelded and executed for having sex with the princess (a situation she put him in with a clear imbalance of power) and Joffrey is basically telling him he knows his secret. Basically he fucked around and found out.
criston is a crybaby, just get over it , he broke his vow. he made that choice. Alicent omited or hid the fact that she was seeing the king , and rhae told a half truth about her night out with deamon. alicent needs to get off her high horse all these mofo's are sneaking and lying. deamon is the only one who just dont care , thats why he is the best , lol
She made him break his vow. He didnt have a choice since she was his boss and could have taken everything away from him with a snap of her fingers and she made it clear that she was not allowing him to refuse. Alicent did what she was told to do, Rhaenyra just does whatever she wants and lies her way out of it and never gives any thought to the consequences for other people.
Not to mention the implication that now from Criston perspective the greatest honor anyone in his bloodline has ever known was gotten bcuz he was hot not due to his skills
@@andyrobin7196yeah. What Rhaenyra did would be called rape in today’s world. She was the one in a position of power and he could not refuse her or else that would be the end of him.
Miya, you are lovely! Criston Cole is one of the most bitter and destructive characters that GRRM ever wrote. The guy has big issues and he's detestable in every sense of the word.
Ugh ..Sir Crybaby is a punk. You knew what you were doing. Be prepared for the time jump next episode. It's a doozy! It only gets better from here! So glad you're back! ♥️🖤💚✊🏽🙏
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😂😂😂 we call him sir crispen now like Daemon on the bridge episode 2 lol what a douche 💀
He is trash.
There’s no way Rhaenyra would have killed her best friends son/little brother. He’s just using that to scare Alicent, he’s so abusive. If it wasn’t for Otto their relationship would be in a much better place.
He did use it to manipulate but she 100% would of had them killed. That is how hereditary dynasty's have always rolled throughout history. She wouldnt have wanted to but would of had to. Doesn't matter if Aegon diddnt want to be king or not. Someone somewhere would have propped him up as the rightful king and used him for their own ends. History is full of these situations including the war of the roses civil wars in England which is a huge inspiration for this story. It was even a problem in ancient Rome where the heir wasnt the oldest son of the emperor.
@@childrenoftheabzu ridiculous. This is fictional land not Rome or England. Rhaenyra was shown and only shown would never kill an innocent brother. Especially if he didn’t challenge for thrown like he even didn’t want to just Otto and Alicent made him. It was just manipulating her and she was dumb enough like you to believe it.
It's hinted that Viserys got an infectious desease from getting cut by the throne... So this illness is a metaphor for power and his position as King killing him slowly... Around episode 5, the actor confirmed it was a form of leprosy eating away his fllesh....
By thinking Criston is Rhaenyra's paramour, as in side piece, Joffrey thought Criston was "just like them", as in more open minded to a libertine lifestyle. Joffrey didn't know Criston walked away the moment he realized Rhaenyra had no intention to marry him. Criston was literally asking for a death sentence for his trangression. He's too puritanical. He's like a psychotic Ned Stark. Therefore when Joffrey approached him saying "we know about your little secret", Criston took Joffrey's politicking as a direct threat to his honor and his white cloak. If he was willing to die himself, what is he gonna do to someone else? The key here is to remember that Cole is a knight from the middle ages. His conception of morals and honor are not like ours. There is no "one night stand" in his dictionary.
OTTO has had this planned since episode 1 when he sent Allicent to the king chanbers. Otto knows they will not accept a queen, yet he suggested Rheanerya as heir... and look at the chaos it's causing
He suggested Rhaenyra as a stop gap measure to keep Daemon away from the throne to which Viserys wholeheartedly agreed with. Daemon is chaotic at best and a raging psychopath at his worst. Viserys might love his brother but he understood that Daemon needed to remain as far away from the iron throne as possible.
@Jose Hill it's all part of Otto plan. He gets daemon away from him as his current heir. By suggesting rheanerya, a woman, knowing they will not accept her. Sending his daughter to the king to start a union so Otto can get a boy heir from their union. It's all his plan.. at the end of episode 1, when rheanerya is crowned heir, you see the smirk on Otto face. He knows what he is doing.
How Cole didn't get fired for this is beyond me. Or killed. Not only did he harm the king consort, endanger the heir, cause havoc at a royal wedding, he also killed an innocent man that was a guest (or more) of house Valeryon. He should've been punished for this and I don't get why he wasn't.
Daemon killed her because she was the only thing standing in the way of him being allowed to marry Rhaenyra. (She even fingered that out herself when she was taunting him about being replaced as heir: “what will you do now? Will you strike the child down? Or-…..😳❗️” But obviously he was too late, she had already been betrothed to Laenor.
“Fingered” I’m so immature sorry lmao 😅🤣💀😭
@@tieonariley22 lol yeah, apparently autocorrect got jokes… 😂 I could edit it, but nah, I think I’ll just leave it.
@@StitchGV it did the same with me with “criston cole” it autocorrect to “criston coke” instead Lmao so I didn’t change it either.😂😭😭💀
Larys Strong is definitely one to watch out for and should not be underestimated
You don’t think “watch out for this character,” takes something away from someone’s experience and natural reaction?
@@react2reactions246 well if you kept up to date on what Miya says on Patreon you'd know she's a few episodes ahead so to answer your question no it doesn't
@@simonalexander2354 fair enough
“See Joffrey! You should have kept that big mouth of your SHUT!”
I’m saying Lmaoo like why did you need to go and talk about it… The Jeffery’s in this show is just wild lol
Team Joffreys: 0
Team Weddings: 2
criston is delusional and mad that rhaenyra wouldn’t give up everything to be with him after he broke his vows lmao, but in his defense in the books he didn’t straight up murder joffrey, it happened in a tourney
That was probably just the greens trying to make him look good in the history books
@Bottlife 240 the books are structured like history books so not everything that happened in the book’s actually happened and it was also mostly written by people that sided with the greens
@@ssplif5415 the book and show are separate continuities and are telling different stories.
@@andyrobin7196 no there not Fire and Blood is the same events as this but there just told as He say she say its not fact the show is showing us what actually happens
Criston Cole is a legend. Came from nothing to become the preeminent figure of honor and courage in the realm.
24:45 That man was Ser Harwin Strong. We've already seen him at least twice: First, he was the cute guy who was laughing and loving it when Rhaenyra came back into camp all bloody from killing the wild boar. Second, the night Rhaenyra snuck out into King's Landing, dressed as a boy, remember when she stole something from a vendor just to be a smartass? And then as she was running away, a guard or a knight stopped her, then realized it was her, and let her go. I think he just told her to be careful. He absolutely thought highly of Rhaenyra.
His father is the hand, and his brother is the one with the clubfoot who ratted out Rhaenyra's tea to Alicent.
Daemon's wife was a Royce. If you'll remember Ser Royce of the Vale, in GoT, I think he was the Master at Arms. The large older man with white hair that questioned Sansa after Lysa was killed, and he didn't like Littlefinger. Rhea Royce would be his ancestor.
Well not ancestor technically... since she got killed before she had any children
@@bjornerluffy they still would be an ancestor. descendant is the more specific word but ancestor mainly means u come from the same family.
And in the opening scene of GOT where the three ride out from the wall the one in command who says "your dead men seem to have moved camp" is Ser Waymar Royce his son
A new character. she looks cool i hope we'll see her ag... ho never mind, she's dead.
@@officialyoungmari
No, it does not.
Otto has been playing Alicent from the start. She's been too naive and a friend to Rhaenyra but dad is manipulating, he want's his line on the throne and now he's telling her that Rhaenyra is gonna kill her kids. The thing that pushed Alicent over the line is how Rhaernyra gets away with whatever she wants. Otto forced Alicent on the king. She's doing her duty and makes no mistakes. Rhaenyra goes around town, has sex in public and with her guard, lies about it including to her bff and gets away with it. Alicent now hates Rhaenyra's privilege. She also used her privilege to seduce Ser Cole. He's not from a noble house and he's really in love with her but she treats him like a play thing and if anyone found out, he'd lose everything he's worked for. When Jooffrey teased him, it pushed him over the edge. So he and Alicent now have something in common, their anger at Rhaenyra. Alicent wore green to show out for the Hightower's in front of everyone. But Rhaenyra & Alicent haven't aired anything out yet and they still have bff love for each other. Viserys is suffering from leprosy, and it makes him look a lot older than he is. I think it's a metaphor for how he's not suited for the throne. Lord Strong is the father of Ser harwin 'breakbones' strong who is really strong and he grabbed the princess. He's also the father of Larys Strong, the clubfoot who is now feeding info to Alicent. It's warming up.
The ending montage was my favorite scene up to this point. Give me the red hue of the weirdwood tree glowing in twilight, give me the dim lights, give me the gloomy ambience of a GoT wedding with an equally gloomy Ramin Djawadi soundtrack and hook it to my veins! That pause when Criston looks up and you hear the final note of that haunting tune is very well done. The uncharacteristically heartfelt exchange between Otto and Alicent is that decisive moment. It's the Tywin Jaime "we can establish a dynasty that last a thousand years" scene. We Light the Way is the motto of House Hightower. This is the episode the Greens come into their own. Out of this cursed wedding the ties that bind are lost and found forever. Rhaenyra and Laenor were exchanging wedding vows, but it was Alicent and Criston who were getting “married”.
Hey T hope you're keeping well my man!!
Excellently phrased as always couldn't agree with you more the cinematography was incredible and Ramin Djawadi is just on a whole different level
Wow that's great insight.
The Velaryons rolled up to that wedding looking expensive and fly af. And yeah, we turn on Ser Criston here. Why the gays gotta die? Let us love lol!
Expensive is the word! Had the royal family looking like ruffians I fear 😭
Daemon wasn’t trynna make rhaenyra look bad so he can look better lol he literally did that so viserys would marry him to rhaenyra…the writer also said daemon killed his wife to marry rhaenyra
I think that Sir Criston prides himself as a morally strong and and above "immoral behavior ". And another man who according to that society is morally corrupt called him out on his own corruption and he couldn't handle that. He probably felt that Joeffrey deserves to die or at least doesn't belong in the company of the King Consort, maybe it goes against his ideals. Either way Criston and Alicent show behavior of people who idealized the world and believe that they should uphold those traditions and values and think they are above it all and fail to see their own immorality yet judge others.
I remember watching this episode. It was so hectic omg
👍🏾 Viseyrs looks "seasoned" accurate and hilarious! 😆
just a little bit of salt, freshly ground black pepper, and garlic powder. nothing else.
Weddings are NEVER a good time in this fantasy universe
On what the Valaryons are up to in GOT - I don't think they ever appear in the show but in the books they side with Stannis.
They do show their sigil on a shield in one scene lol
I’ll admit that Jason Lannister joke was hilarious
I thought it was a little sexist.
Very sexist but it was funny he didn't realize what rae said
@@commonsense1080oh it certainly was sexist, but sexism aside it was a pretty good joke
I’ve been waiting on this one, love your reactions
We just interviewed the guy plays Laenor and he said there was a cut scene of him Joffrey where he goes back over and screws with him some more. 😮first time that was said.
And the 2 Beautiful house themes of House Velaryon when they walk in and House Hightower when Alicent walks in in all green lol...Ramin Djwadi never misses.
Technically Rhaenyra did not lie to Alicent. Alicent was accusing her about her sleeping with Daemon but technically Rhaenyra never slept with him. Rhaenyra at this point has no reason to trust Alicent. She knows at the end of the day that Alicent is queen first, Otto’s daughter second and Rhaenyra’s friend last. And if she told her that she had slept with Cristin then Alicent would ruin her and Aegon would become heir. She doesn’t trust Alicent to have her back and not tell Otto so she used the loophole that Alicent provided to protect herself and her position. Daemon didn’t take Rhaenyra’s maiden hood and that is the truth.
The legend goes, if you get cut by the throne then you are not worthy the seat!
Weddings, am I right?
I know this is 2 months late, but the Valeryons live on the island of Driftmark, and their home is called High Tide.
Omg when Alicent summons Criston and the baby is crying in the back...I thought it was Mom Dad and the Prodigal Son in the same room for the first time!! That woulda been too iconic 😭. But my man hasn't been born yet so that has to be sweet sweet Helaena!😭💚
Another favourite moment of mine this episode was Alicent’s green dress.
Even ignoring the storytelling with her costuming: from wearing blues before marrying Viserys, to red after the wedding symbolising her trying to fit in with the Targaryens, and now green as she accepts her identity as a Hightower, it’s such a pivotal moment for her that had been building up for some time.
She spoke up and defended Rhaenyra to Viserys which in her head, got her father fired and sent away from King’s Landing leaving her alone. So to find out that both her husband and Rhaenyra lied to her probably made her realise that she would never truly be one of them and she decided to carve out her own identity within her family. It’s the first time she stand up for herself this entire season.
Jason Lannister is such a good fit in the role of the pompous insufferable d bag lol. I wish he gets more screentime 🤣
alicent also feels really betrayed by rhaenyra because otto left and she took rhae’s side and believed her. in the scene where otto leaves he already places blame on her for his departure so now she thinks my dad is gone all for nothing, because he was right. and she probably feels even more guilty
Awesome reaction !❤ yeah this episode was crazy of course , wow otto said “let me brew some more poison into my daughters head and blame her too while I’m at it” what a great dad lmao ☺️💀 one thing I can say is the devil works hard but otto works harder smh 🤦🏾♀️ like clearly he does not care about alicent at all cause if he truly loved her he wouldn’t have put her through this mess that he created while still manipulating her and scaring into thinking her best friend will kill her kids because of his greed and ambition, criston coke is a tragic character smh I really liked him with rhaenrya even though it felt like they had a mutual connection , I get that he felt played but it felt like the only reason why he wanted to run away with her was because of what happened and not to actually marry her so that says a lot about him cause if he truly cared about his honor and oath he would’ve told rhaenrya no that night and she would’ve understand in my opinion! The royal engagement was dope , I loved the valerians they ate that entrance up ✨😍, Lmao visery’s was stressed out the whole time 😭, daemon being daemon 🤦🏾♀️💀😂, why would Joffrey open up his big mouth to criston knowing he looked like he was already on edge and was about to snap! 🙄😒🤦🏾♀️ Whew what an ending , I love your channel and your discussions❤💕✨☺️
Otto was right. He got fired because Alicent believed Rhaenyra's lie and backed her up to Viserys. Everything he's warning her about is true, her sons lives will be put in danger by Rhaenyra taking the throne. He did what any father in westeros would do, find a good match for his daughter that would benefit the family.
Cole did tell Rhaenyra 'no' that night. He tried to leave and she blocked the exit, he asked her to stop and she ignored him and kept going. He didnt have the ability to consent since she was his boss and was actively rejecting his attempts to stop it from happening.
@@andyrobin7196 yes Ik but he knew that if he tried to undermine rhaenrya and tell visery’s which he was gonna back her up now even if it’s wrong which is also why visery’s called otto out on manipulating him for his own self interest which got him fired, otto knew damn well he could’ve married alicent to a another powerful house even if it’s not royalty and it would still benefit his family rather then put her through this royal political mess that could cost her life and children’s life because of his ambition and keeping his bloodline in the family through alicent , it’s interesting that you see it that way but for me yes in that moment it was wrong but rhae didn’t really force him or command him in anyway in my opinion other wise I feel like we would’ve gotten a different type of character from her lol and plus there was so many open chances for him to say no , for instances when he took his cloak off and laid it on the chair he paused for a good minute and she watched him patiently without a word until continued and kissed her back and wasn’t even rushed they took their time but he hesitated a few times because deep down they both liked each other and he couldn’t help it so he gave in rather than doing the right thing and she would’ve been understanding and let him leave in my opinion , it’s hard for some of us to see this world the way it is through our modern lens anyways good discussion tho ! ☺️
Viserys has leprosy. He's not old, but it's eating him alive and aging him before his time.
The reason Alicent is upset with Rhaenyra has to do with the fact that Rhaenyra lied to Alicent, but it also has to do with the fact that Alicent liked Ser Criston Cole. But I also don't understand why Alicent is upset with Rhaenyra if she's done much worse, had dates with the King for six months without saying anything to her best friend, who on top of that the King is Rhaenyra's father.
Rhaenyra got Otto sent back to Oldtown. Alicent took Rhaenyra’s side but then she found out she wasn’t being entirely truthful. Also keep in mind Viserys point blank told Alicent not to mention their time together to Rhaenyra. She couldn’t go against the king even if she wanted to.
It has been dubbed the Green Wedding 💚
Can't wait to see your reaction to the new Rhaenyra and Alicent! And the time jump!
Keep up the awesome work 🤩
So I think Cristin Cole’s overreaction to Joffrey can be explained a little because of his station. He’s from a very minor noble house on the border between Westeros and Dorne, so minor that he’s probably only a couple generations away from peasants (like Petry Baelish in GoT). Peasants historically in medieval Europe were actually able to marry because of “love”, believe in fairy tales like the princess running off with him to distant lands etc. unlike Rhaenrya who’s bound by duty, and always lived with debauchery and scheming of King’s Landing. So it wasn’t a big deal when she asked him to be his side piece but to him it was shattering his world view 😂 and then Joffrey was the final nail in the coffin.
This is the start of the blacks and the greens.
Book Spoilers(If you don’t want them):
In the books, there was a feast that celebrated the King and Queen’s fifth year of marriage together. Queen Alicent wore a green dress to the feast while Princess Rhaenyra wore a red and black dress. People took note of this and called the two factions blacks and greens. The blacks supported Princess Rhaenyra’s claim to the iron throne while the green’s supported the claims of Queen Alicent’s children. And now, Ser Criston Cole is one of the greens.
a little piece of advice: if you're in Westeros, don't go to a wedding.
Yessssss gurl
Went pretty well for a Thrones wedding
im not saying Joffrey was wrong in his intentions. He wanted them both to just do what they were doing and keep their secrets and do them. But the didn't know Criston Cole was def the wrong person to confide in, considering dude is super insanely unhinged
Otto and Daemon are actually more similar than I previously thought. Both second sons who are brutal and unrelenting in their pursuit for power.
Yes, Daemon loves his family no doubt, but he also lists for power. He pursued Rhaenyra, attempted to tarnish her reputation, just so he could marry her and get closer to the crown. And when he couldn’t get her, (this isn’t a spoiler since you’ve seen the next episode) he weds Laena Velaryon, rider of the largest dragon in Westeros, and daughter of the second most powerful family in Westeros.
writers confirmed daemon never wanted the throne. He just wanted his brother attention. He never wanted the throne and they even said him marrying rhaenyra wasn’t for the throne but because he loved her so you not completely right with what you said. They even said that’s why he stayed mad at viserys for so long because he denied him the girl he actually loves.
@@Caraxes_RoguePrince Writers aren't god. What you see and hear in the show is what matters and you can have very different interpretations of what Daemon is and wants because he's such a non-character both here and in the book. You can't truly love a person while abandoning her naked and alone in a brothel, destroying her public reputation so she has to depend on you marrying her and then abusing her and strangling her. IMO he just wants to maintain his house supremacy and for many years he only could do that through Viserys and now he can keep doing it through Rhaenyra and as we see he's capable of being abusive to her when she doesn't act like he wants her to act as queen. He loves his family in the same way Tywin loved House Lannister. As a weapon against others, as a way of keeping the dragon glory and authority but being abusive, offensive and a constant headache to his individual familiars.
@@perseusveil9376 you said it all.
@@perseusveil9376 agreed regardless of what writers say. We see Damon on screen and giving Matt so few lines we must judge by his action.
@@perseusveil9376sorry bro but I’m gonna take the opinion of the author of the book over that of some TH-cam commentator
The 100 would be a good show to jump to after this.. Father Liamin strong also now hand of the king he has 2 sons sir harwin strong and Larys strong the clubfoot.. Sir harwin strong is also nicknamed sir harwin “breakbones” Hope that clears the air a bit.. 🐉🤘🏻😎🤘🏻🐉🔥
12:21 he's supposed to be in his early 40s in this episode
Velaryons don't appear in GoT because they aren't that important/rich anymore by that time, in the books they side with Stannis and their lord dies at the battle of the blackwater, then they are ruled by a child. There is also a Velaryon bastard that is on Cersei's small council purely because she has a crush on him and she thinks he looks like Rhaegar
Corlys didn't want the throne for himself, he just didn't want the Velaryon house to end by marrying the only male son he has matrilineally.
Being married to Corlys didn't help Rhaenys in her bid for the throne; it's very clear that ambition is his first name.
@@janeathome6643 as an ambitious man, ending the House Velaryon wouldn't be something he'd do. I think
He also believes very deeply that his wife was robbed of her birthright and station
@@janeathome6643why? He’s of pure Valarian blood and the most wealthy man in the kingdoms aside from the royal family
LMFAO
Weddings, aren't they great
Viserys has been deteriorating since the cut on his arm. His hand fingers are all missing in the scene where he tries to kill the deer. Wasn’t his hand missing in this episode? He’s got some sort of illness from getting cut by the throne. The book readers say getting cut by the throne is a bad omen.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Westeros weddings 💀💀💀💀💀💀
The Velaryon's are alive during Game of Thrones the just weren't featured in the show. Cersei was sleeping with a Velaryon bastard.
21:27 Viserys suffers from Leprosy and with the death of Aemma who was his true love, it is as if a part of him had died and he let the disease advance as if it were some curse for what he did to Aemma, because instead of choosing to save her he thought only of saving his son and they both died.
As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. That is the story for Rhaenrya, Alicent and Criston Cole so far. This to me was the best ep of the first half. What an explosive way to round off the prologue. Now comes the gqme of thrones. The next ep is def a bit weird cause you're forced to adjust to the time jump and all the new characters. It's still a solid ep imo, it's fault is that it has too much information overload. But after that comes the best eps.
Technically rhaenyra didn’t lie to her. She said daemon and her didn’t F. Now other stuff... lol
And daemons wife went for weapon. Technically he was self defense. Just speaking facts though yes he prob did go there to kill her lol.
What was that going down your hair at 19:31?
Fluff or cat hair probably 😭
Rhaenyra, much like us, was too complacement to see the forest for the trees. It's only fitting that while Viserys, Corlys, Rhaenys, Lionel Strong and all the rest of the gallery of clowns were bargaining and splitting hairs about who will sit on the iron throne and while the audience is too busy fawning over what kinda mustache twirling villainy Daemon is plotting, the chain of events that sets off the downfall of the mighty Targaryen dynasty starts with the two unlikliest of peoples finding each other on that cursed night.
Green Wedding
Criston: Aka yet ANOTHER man who wants use a woman to fix his problems. He feels his white cloak is stained. “Marry me! It will clean me”- bruh sthapp. But Daemon/Rhaenyra scene was saucy!! Oh how them running away would have prevented so much😢.
the writers threw Cole's character under the bus here and made him act like a psycho against Joffrey just because they knew audiences were expecting something big and shocking to happen at a wedding after GoT
Oh the character assassination of one of the legends of the kings guard will not be forgotten
But he did get salty on Rhaenyra though? The writing on the show went different but it doesn’t change the fact that he is a real asshole
@@NoicesVoicesAfrica Rhaenyra's the asshole though, she used her power to make him give up his vow on a whim and never gave a second thought about what it would cost him even though she knew his position and his honour was the only thing he had in the entire world.
@@andyrobin7196 he coulda said no and not had sex with her lmao literally nothing would’ve happened if he said no other than rhaenyra being embarrassed and maybe not talking to him for a minute but it’s not like she would try to have him killed lol he is the idiot even the actor and the crew said it was consensual.
@@Caraxes_RoguePrince He did say no. He tried to leave and she blocked the exit. He asked her to stop and she ignored him and kept going. He couldnt physically shove her aside and run away since she had his life in her hands and could have had him fired or even killed with a snap of her fingers. Rhaenyra is shown to be entitled, spiteful, and petty, if he upsets her he would lose his position or even his life.
This story line with Alicent is stupid her caring about what Rheanyra does with her body is just weird. It’s straight jealousy. Alicents dad is sneaky is just ugh. To say the least.
It's because Rhaenyra does whatever she pleases without consequences, while Alicent is always living a life of obedience to her father and her husband, while being completely socially isolated.
'Ser' Criston is SUch a bsh.
Those must be some pretty sheep.
The Velaryons are around during GOT but not as powerful a player since they were loyal to the Targaryens & Robert ofc didn’t like that. Ser Criston was just mad that Joffery knew about him & Rhaenyra. Alicent’s dress is the name of her side the greens vs the blacks which are Rhaenyra’s side. Oh & Daemon called his wife his bronze b*tch because house Royce was known as Bronze kings during the age of heros & it’s a nickname they carry that Daemon turned into a insult. Poor Laenor & even thought it wasn’t a wedding it was the welcome feast ish went down!
Criston the Incel
The show did Criston so so dirty
Well he is meant to be celibate, he swore an oath under pain of death. The guy dosent hate women just Ranera
@@joevines3428 nah, they are playing with that concept. Remember the whole speech about “every woman is perfect bla bla”
@@joevines3428 For his own mistake.
@@DanLanningPRTeam He’s just as crazy in the books
I loved that scene with Otto and Alicent. As brutal as it may seem, he was speaking the truth. Alicent’s sons would _always_ be an obstacle to Rhaenyra’s claim and Otto in that moment was pushing Alicent to advocate for herself and her children rather than trying to play the good wife and best friend.
If Rhaenyra wouldn’t do anything to her children then Daemon absolutely would. Be mad at Otto all you want but he was definitely playing the long game and in this game you either win or you die. There is no middle ground.
@@jjh2456 Yep. History teaches us that things can get out of their control very quickly for royals. Even if there were no hostility between them, other nobles could use other princes and conspire and push their claims. Tradition dictates that a male son comes before a daughter, and Viserys should have made more efforts to change that. Codify his own royal choice of heir as law, even before cultural customs or keep forcing new lords to repeat their father's vow of loyalty to the female heir. He made no such thing so both Aegon and Rhaenyra have a valid claim, which ensures chaos.
Its the same with the bastards, really. No matter the appearance of peace or your non-bastard brother's good intentions, everything can change in a day and just one ambitious or insulted noble knowing the truth could be the birth of a potential rebellion, and as per Aegon: "everyone knows, father. Just look at them". Rhaenyra and Viserys are most definitely two of the main instigators of the war by simply inutility and by maintaining Daemon's lunatic ass close to power (at least Viserys did some things regarding this, while Rhaenyra outright married him lol Talking about respecting Viserys' will.)
@@jjh2456 exactly. It was never a matter of if, but _when_. Viserys was a fool and a coward to ever think he could bypass centuries of law and tradition without some kind of consequence.
But it would be Otto’s fault in the first place as he manipulated Viserys into marrying Alicent in the first place
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I don’t get how you don’t understand why Otto is out.. Viserys started seeing that Otto was only out for himself. And therefore cannot be trusted. And Alicent has NO REASON to mad at Rhae! Rhae owes her 0. Alicent is her undesired step mother not her friend really anymore. Unless Alicent has feelings for Rhae or Daemon there is no reason for her to even care as much as she does about Princess Rhae Rhae getting her groove her on. Yet she does. Weird. And Rhae would never have Alicent’s children killed unless of course they come for her children and that’s another convo for another day… back to Otto, he’s been trying to hook up Alicent with the King since Jacaerys for gain so he’s a douche canoe 💯. He becomes the hand again down the road because Viserys is a Dodo but a loving one… but a doofus. 😂
Joffrey basically blackmailed Criston by telling him all of that. Laenor and Rhaenyra don't really lose anything with that "pact" being public but he's a kingsguard. He could be gelded and executed for having sex with the princess (a situation she put him in with a clear imbalance of power) and Joffrey is basically telling him he knows his secret. Basically he fucked around and found out.
Cole is such a child. Cant stand that guy
Can't decide whether Criston is too much of a sweetheart of too much of a cold-bloodied killed.
criston is a crybaby, just get over it , he broke his vow. he made that choice. Alicent omited or hid the fact that she was seeing the king , and rhae told a half truth about her night out with deamon. alicent needs to get off her high horse all these mofo's are sneaking and lying. deamon is the only one who just dont care , thats why he is the best , lol
She made him break his vow. He didnt have a choice since she was his boss and could have taken everything away from him with a snap of her fingers and she made it clear that she was not allowing him to refuse. Alicent did what she was told to do, Rhaenyra just does whatever she wants and lies her way out of it and never gives any thought to the consequences for other people.
Not to mention the implication that now from Criston perspective the greatest honor anyone in his bloodline has ever known was gotten bcuz he was hot not due to his skills
@@andyrobin7196yeah. What Rhaenyra did would be called rape in today’s world. She was the one in a position of power and he could not refuse her or else that would be the end of him.
@@andyrobin7196 bro it's been discussed a million times. He had a choice. Stop defending the incel
He literally refused her in this episode. Did something happen to him? No
Joffrey saying that to Criston was less of an understanding and more of blackmail. Still think Criston overreacted though.
Miya, you are lovely! Criston Cole is one of the most bitter and destructive characters that GRRM ever wrote. The guy has big issues and he's detestable in every sense of the word.
We stand with Criston
Who is "we"?
@@andyfern8923 The Incels.
Ugh ..Sir Crybaby is a punk. You knew what you were doing.
Be prepared for the time jump next episode. It's a doozy! It only gets better from here! So glad you're back! ♥️🖤💚✊🏽🙏