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- Sky News' Ed Conway takes a look at the figures following the release of Labour's manifesto and compares them to the other parties bidding for Number 10 in the upcoming general election.
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If the reasons the total tax burden would go up under labour are because they want non-doms and private schools to pay tax, then actually the tax burden would not go up for the average person.
It's actually targeting the rich tax Dodgers than the working class
Exactly why this sort of analysis is pointless without the knowledge behind it. The take away from that graph for some is that that they would be paying higher tax under Labour, which unless they own a private school, own an energy company or are a non-dom millionaire is not the case.
@@clintstechtips6571 They all say they will do that, but then they realise they get loads of donations as well as lobbying from these people not to change it.
@@dr_drWho owns sky and why might it be in their best interests to be ambiguous around Labours tax rises? That’s half of the problem for Labour. They could announce a 1% tax on multimillionaire assets and all the newspapers, social media and news channels would simply run with “Labour is going to raise taxes” with no context or further explanation.
I think they will announce some additional tax measures such as a wealth tax or capital gains tax. They won’t have to worry about misinformation and the average person will have a few years to understand that those tax rises will not negatively impact their finances.
So what happens when non domains leave the country and take their money with them and people stop going to private achools... I'll wait...
Tories have increased taxes on the working class over the last 14 years and lowered it for tax-dodging billionaires.
When they say labour will increase taxes, they mean to say they will increase taxes on rich tories and I say that's a good thing
Wake up
@@1ForTheShieldz try looking at the facts
So why aren't they increasing the personal tax allowance 12570 people now need more of their hard earned money than ever before labour won't do that so what's the damn point
Rubbish
@@FionaHedges It's a fact that taxes are higher on working class people than they were under labour, it's a fact taxes are lower for billionaires
Very misleading as the tax burden doesnt affect most average citizens and working class people
Yes it will
@@bigkuriboh3814 it won't. its from the wealthier in society.
@@thebrowniestjohnson3244- aka employers…?
@@jimthompson9370the greatest lie …
Absolutely disappointed with Labours Manifesto. Nothing to help working people. No tax cuts either
It’s a bit misleading the graph about tax burden at the end. Id suggest that it’s quiet and unhelpful comparison because it’s important to look at a what areas I being tax ie top earners private education etc but also is worth noting things like the conservative manifesto make alterations try and get more votes so whilst on the graph may well short term show this we don’t have the precision or potentially trust in many cases of when the tax rise would come in from a conservative government to cover this short term gain.
Tories tripled our debt with sweet FA to show for it.
Their mates have something to show for it, I'm sure.
Tripling our debt is normally a labour speciality.
Ooo, one billion. Remind me, didn’t liz truss spaff 48 billion in 30 days..?
Economic bus, Liz Truss. Didn't Jihadis in Germany, use buses and lorries ?
Starmer is relying on the fact that people are unhappy with the Tories and saying nothing as if he says anything people don’t like they may well think twice before voting for him.
The big problem with the "tax burden" graph is that it doesn't account for who's paying the tax. The Conservatives are taking money from average people and the other parties are taxing the wealthiest people and corporations.
I'd go as far as saying the way Sky are presenting it is quite disingenuous.
It's what MSM is not talking about that we should be really worried about.
Your shoe size?
Sky...That was like following the pea under the shell trick. Clever how quickly the presenter put the spending in black and green next to each other. When comparing it to other parties. When it's about revenue against total expenditure. Stacking them would show that the conservative party are bribing the country vote with more debt.
Lib Dems: Spending Monayyyyy 📈
Greens: Spendin' HELLA BIG MONAYYYYYYYY 💰💰💰🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Labour: no
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Vote reform
Big difference between spending to consume eg Truss, and spending to invest in infrastructure and health and training and improve productivity.
@@julianshepherd2038 And the idea by the investment spending is that it will pay for itself long-term, hence why parties don't tend to factor it in as part of the "total spending" category.
Jeez, UK is really poor. While we are fighting over £7b Elon Musk just got £45b.
Lmfao the dumb comparison is insane
who's responsible for that?
If it's so poor why are we giving billions to Ukraine or America shall I say for weapons
Hahaha
This is a small part of it. Of course the uk has more tax coming in than £7billion
The Buffer is for extra money for MPs
Ukraine and Israil more like to money launder
4:52 is misleading based on who labour want to tax, the avenge tax for everyone isn't going up it's going up for the more wealthy
Yeah of course 🙄
If they are keeping the income tax threshold and NI threshold the same then people will be taxed more each year they get a pay rise so your inflationary pay rise will be wiped out right away. It works out to £1,100 av per year.
That's not true, they're increasing capital gains tax, which affects any shareholder who sells shares. They're debasing the housing prices and thus rendering current ownership as a depreciating asset. Do the maths.
@@itsundisclosedA couple of things with that, firstly they haven’t announced that so it’s still just speculation, secondly the average person doesn’t own many shares at the minute, average earners are concentrating too much on paying their mortgages, paying their bills and putting food on the table to worry about savings and investments.
So yes capital gains tax will impact working people but mainly those who are higher than average earners.
I earn less than the national average and even though I struggle I’d back an extra 1% on income tax and NI if it meant we could start reversing the damage to public services. If I can cope with that I’m sure those able to afford to trade shares can afford a little more too.
It isn't going down either unless they change the tax allowance. At present tax allowance means rise in wages to combat cost of living crisis is eaten up in tax.
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Other countries have a higher tax burden than us and outperform us year after year, like Germany. Theres a difference to a 38% tax burden on an economy growing at 2-3% per annum and a 38% tax burden on an economy that's basically stagnat with shrinking GDP per capita. The first is what Labour are aiming for, the latter is the UK economy under the Tories right here and now.
Because Germany have competent governments, and the uk has switched between 2 parties for 100 years and doesn’t ever learn that doing the same thing election after election is insanity
Are the Labour figures believable? From this analysis, it appears they're not going to do much. What's the point if having a government that basically dies very little?😢
Labours manifesto is just like Kier Starmer - lacking vision, substance and honesty
Nice to see a manifesto that focuses on putting the country back on it's feet, that wasn't written in La La land.
but to say it's change and hope is La La land. It's ultra low ambition and about stabilising things as they are, carrying on the job from Sunak.
it doesn't matter what the manifesto promises, call us when any single item is actually acted on. (I won't hold my breath)
Why do I feel the narrative is so not clear and misleading as he is focussing on comparing the absolute scales. But instead the comparison between parties and previous labour should've been at the next level split of where the taxes would be coming from and where the spending would be going across each party and previous labour govts 🤔
Why aren't we covering reform????
I don't see how tackling tax avoidance raises the tax burden, well on us tax payers that is.
If we actually fund and invest in vital services - NHS, police, schools, prisons, courts - more people will be healthy, supported, educated, and be able to support themselves financially AND pay into tax. If people are suffering from untreated illness, postponed operations, lack of social service interventions, lack of mental health support, lack of SEND provision in schools, being robbed and stabbed, they're more likely to be out of work. And that's before we get into the actual hjman suffering involved.
vote reform UK 🇬🇧
WHY???????
@@acchongo why not????
@@acchongo👈 Beautiful British name...
@andy2610 because germany voted right wing in the 30's and look what happened there.
@@samuelstevens248 And Gaza voted for hamas and look what happened there...
Doesn't that mean it's achievable
Manifesto, a listed of pledges that may or may not put into practice once in office.
Only as good as the person who make these promises
The moist interesting part of the Labour manifesto is at the end; the committment to political reform, that will really change things for the future.
1997 to 2010 not looking to bad compared to now ay
Never thought I would hear someone say a billion is not a lot of money 😂😂
Thinking back as a 39yr old, I liked Tony Blairs Era as we had community cops ( support officers) investment in schools etc... the Tories get some credit for leaving government with a full purse at the time, and there's Camerons era well as he was in a tough spot with an empty purse but did ok bar brexit.
BUT today Tory or Labour 😢 what's the point the civil service runs this country whoever is in charge nothing changes 😢
VOTE REFOME
It was like keir starmer uninspiring.
Vote reform.
This is what’s seen as “quietly radical”? That’s all?
i think we should aim to keep a healthy surplus to get our debt down
Very disappointed from Labour manifesto as there are no tax cuts for working people
they're being realistic, we need higher wages, not lower taxes
Labour = tax-and-spend. Tax-and-waste. Tax-and-spaff.
Could there be a worse time to raise taxes in general?
And STILL no one is talking about ending so called international aid which is £13Bn we give away EVERY year. What a load of mugs we have been taken for & it continues.
VOTE REFORM UK
A sensible plan that focuses on pulling levers that aren’t just fiscal and monetary policy
REFORM TOGETHER NOW
Why aren’t the Green Party’s statistics shown? It’s insane how they receive no airtime and they have the best manifesto and constant-growing support…
More tax more immigration more green targets more woke agenda this is what Starmer will bring. Vote reform its the only option for the future of British people
What a shame - all the efforts to ‘save the Tories’ have failed. That’s how bad they are and have shown themselves to be. Bye bye!
Vote Reform UK 🗳 💪🇬🇧
Where is reform?
Vote reform people! Enough is enough
Why?
I will be and I was a remain voter. We live in different times and we need change, voting tories or labour gives more of the same, with reform there is a chance.
@@Theyorkshirepirlo name the changes on reforms manifesto
@samuelstevens248
Because we always vote for the same two parties like there is no third option. We have been going round in circles for decades.
Labour gets in causes chaos, so a few years of this everyone gets sick of it and votes Consertive. They do much the same thing, are just as bad but are in long enough for us to forget what Labour did last time, so guess what, we vote Labour and the whole circus starts again.
There is a reason Labour goes after the young voter.
@happychappers8311 life was much better in this country under labour last time around
Lighten up - Euro cup - wall to wall football starting tomorrow - great no more Farage or Sunak stuff
They doubled your pint in a year 😂
Let's ✅ vote Uk reform
We are way below the Eu average on tax. This should be pointed out. Taxes are currently to pay back debt incurred by furlow
misusing the word 'investment' by by government should be illegal
The taxes hikes make sense if they are actually targeting the multimillionaires, big banks and capital, but unlikely given labour's track record of ditching the actual labourers.
It's almost as if Labour are the only party actually being honest about how bad the state of the economy and national finances actually is. That going on an unfunded spending spree just two years after the Government debt and sterling crisis under Truss isn't wise economic policy...
Legalization 🥴
How are we paying more tax than we were after ww2 🤦♂️
Reform uk
But don’t forget my father was a ⚒️🔧🛠️⚒️🔧 maker!!
Absolutely disappointed with Labours Manifesto
why is it for 28/29? that's years away
as thats the year its costed for in the labour manifesto
Why aren’t reform figures on here as well
because no one cares about them apart from your echo chamber
Both are liars. Do not listen. Vote independent. Vote reform. Vote workers party.
Britain will still be limping round with the Brexit concrete boot on.
So labour, who said they weren’t going to borrow, are going to run a deficit to spend 50% of their budget on “green investment”? What a joke. Nobody wants that right now. I’m sure that down the line they will tax us for these green “investments” that will give us no short-term returns. Their non-dom clampdown will fail miserably, as they’ll all leave, meaning the labour gov will either borrow more or tax more to invest in things we don’t need. The Tories are right about Labour’s economic policy, but unfortunately they’ve absolutely destroyed the public trust and Starmer is going to waltz into Number 10 and squander any possibility of growing out of this crisis.
Better chance than we would have with another Tory government.
We...we 'promise' to do this, this and that!
Basically, everything that the othed main party hasn't mentioned, we 'promise' to do, maybe, at some point!
When elected people are gonna realises why they have been out of power for the past 14 years
Labour is the conservative party... We need actual patriot change
They have forgot long ago, who they were formed by and who they represent. Get rid of all diesel and petrol cars by 2030. What vehicles do the working people of this country drive? What can they afford to drive and get to shift in? Who drives electric cars? Rich people or they are leased through a company. Vote Reform or vote for the status quo.
Can't help but get the feeling, that this news item was designed to put us off voting Labour and why no mention of Reform?
Depressing
Why does this remind me of The Day Today?
It was the best of a bad bunch of manifestos. Public confidence is at an all time low and this is what our politicians come up with. A lot of it looked nice, but is it really practical or going to happen? Labour talk a good game on knife crime, they're the party who covered it the most, but really this issue is complex with a need for a holistic approach that is both affordable and workable. Labour's ideas seemed like pie in the sky. Also, mental health services in schools? Who is paying for that? How will that be delivered and by who? Mental health services in the UK are overstretched, woeful and undersupported as it stands. I wasn't impressed with any of the manifestos tbh. Labour's just covered more issues I care about as a city dweller who doesn't own a second home in the Cotswolds.
What about the party second in the polls? Reform UK.
Run to the hills
New parteis
New thoughts
New forign policy
No more tax mony out for others war
All media outlet is working in favour of labour
MPs benefited across the aisle from corruption, the notion that labour will change that is cute.
Green energy normally relies on soecific materials which are ironically mined in countries that are not friendly to the west, they are also hard to refine in large numbers. To power the uk on solar and wind, will require the land mass around the size of south africa which is 400x larger.
The cleanest and most efficient energy is nuclear energy, it just requires highly educated people to maintain it and these people are paid an absolute fortune for their skills, its not DEI friendly ergo hard to sell. 2 or 3 nuclear plants can power the UK with 50% reserve for 200 years and is clean contrary to the absolute garbage that comes out.
France and Italy cheaper food prices then England London Britain yes Thomas.
Sounds sensible
bring back corbyn :( the only real chance we've ever had to tackle the vast economic inequality in our country.
He was probably the only real chance in the last 100 years of actually changing the political system in the UK and actual doing good by the people. However, the money men convinced us he was the enemy and a dirty communist
No more tax mony out for others war
New parteis
New thoughts
New forign policy
Not easy to Tax non Domicile, if they are bound to pay Taxes, they can pay in their beloved Domicile Nation and clear the bill there
This is just making the status quo for another five years
Looksclike they should just not do so much "green spending" then doesn't it. We could reasonably rely on private enterprise to mske green changes - if we actually ALLOWED PEOPLE TO BUILD THINGS!!!! We've rejected most planning proposals for the last 24 years
Very unispiring from all parties.Thank goodness i dont live in uk anymore😅
Need to add the greens into the picture their manifesto is kind of what I expected labours to be before there moving away from the left
Vote reform uk
I’m quite surprised that in 21st people still believe politicians and bother to vote 🙃
Will have more rights with a British Labour government in England yes Thomas.
Vote Reform
Labour more fiscally conservative than Conservatives... I no longer understand anything. :)
Vote Reform🇬🇧🇬🇧
Why?
What's in there manifesto
Give me 3 reasons why I should apart from immigration? No I'll make that 1 ?
@@alanpage3973 Because we have been down the Conservative/Labour route many, many times before, and nothing ever changes. Each new government blames the previous one for the reason things aren't going as promised until we get fed up with the lies and vote the other in, and the whole circus starts again.
At least with Reform there is a chance of genuine change. Or just go and vote the same again and tell yourself this time will be different.
No!
starmer continues to support ukraine & israel & therefore, would not get my vote!!!
That's one way to propagandist austerity
Omg. If so much lesser. How to develop the country
I'm voting reform, time for change.
Labour has no vision.
Labour's tax assumptions around the non-doms is especially optimistic, though. I assume we'll get tax raises in time.
soon will be impossible to live in this country.
Wow a presentation for a Labour government omg where is Ofcom it was blatent