Is Vivian from Paper Mario really Trans?

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  • @davidpacifico1019
    @davidpacifico1019 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Of course Vivian is the only source of her identity, since it’s literally HER identity.
    Additionally, it’s pretty clear in the original translation since Vivian refers to herself with words indicating that she is a woman while other characters treat her as a man, which is treated as a statement of fact rather than just an insult, which really only makes sense if she is trans.

    • @spiritsend
      @spiritsend  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      So far, you are the only person who has responded with something other than "yes"... I appreciate more than just a one or two word response! I am puzzled still by the lack of words in the game that specifically say "I used to be a man but now I am not." Just saying that Vivian wasn't their brother and is actually their sister was part of my interpretation about the bullying. The idea pitched in this video was that she was bullied/gaslit into believing she is a man until she had time to grow and learn, only to discover that she was a girl all along. While it isn't popular by any means, it still could hold up. I've always enjoyed over-analyzing things I read as to get different perspectives or to get the whole picture on something. I hated those classes in school but always enjoyed doing those things regardless.

  • @josphdobbs2550
    @josphdobbs2550 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The concept of creatures without a definitive form being "trans" is actually something that bothers me because how can a creature that can change its form at will grow uncomfortable with its physical traits? Any troubles regarding a form? Switch it off. It does not need surgery for such a thing unless the creature has a core form it must return to and wants to change the core form. If it lacks such a constraint, just change the form.

    • @spiritsend
      @spiritsend  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I appreciate your comment! I agree that this topic is rather silly, but it would've come up eventually so I decided to make a video on it. You do make a good point that as a shadow, she could probably just alter her body easily... never thought of that.

  • @ironicugandan5826
    @ironicugandan5826 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Yes. Yes she is. The original translation said she was

    • @spiritsend
      @spiritsend  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      is there a reliable literal translation to read out there? I don't know Japanese so it's not like I can read Japanese dialogue lol

    • @ironicugandan5826
      @ironicugandan5826 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @ the remake is based on the original Japanese version. It basically says “I was their brother a long time before I realized I was their sister”.

    • @notSpiritsend
      @notSpiritsend หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ironicugandan5826if that’s the literal translation, couldn’t that be interpreted as “I was their brother because they called me their brother”? It can be seen both ways. One thing not mentioned is how naive Vivian is in the game. Most likely a personality trait born of the bullying from Beldam but still. I think it could still be that she isn’t. I’m not saying she isn’t at all, but just that there’s a possibility that she isn’t. If that makes sense.

    • @ironicugandan5826
      @ironicugandan5826 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@notSpiritsend in the original Japanese every one called her a boy. But she herself identified herself as a woman. Nintendo even went through the efforts to stop the misgendering

    • @gonhunter3994
      @gonhunter3994 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No

  • @Artemie-np3qu
    @Artemie-np3qu หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Yes. Next question

  • @mudkipmadness7072
    @mudkipmadness7072 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Short answer? Yes. Long answer? Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss.

  • @nicholaswilson1622
    @nicholaswilson1622 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Glad I’m not the only one who thinks Vivian isn’t trans. Hard to be outside-the-box thinkers. Also really glad to see people are being respectful in the comments.

    • @Uzi6855
      @Uzi6855 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its in the vame she is literally Trans

  • @madflam3192
    @madflam3192 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Yes since she said it

    • @spiritsend
      @spiritsend  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Considering she did not use a phrase saying something along the lines of "I was once their brother but now I am their sister" in the English translation of the game, it leaves room to give some entertainment to the idea presented in this video, where I said she could have been bullied into believing she was their brother but was just their youngest sister the entire time since birth. All she says is "it took me a while to realize I was not their brother, but rather their sister," which does not specifically spell out trans. I am not saying she isn't designed that way for the game, I am just saying it isn't the only possibility. Regardless, the game remains one of my all-time favorite games and will replay it for years to come.
      Thank you for your comment! :)

  • @eeveelover64
    @eeveelover64 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    yes

  • @jlomeli4579
    @jlomeli4579 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I know nothing about this game or character other than that Mario autistic cartoon. Choo Choo!

    • @spiritsend
      @spiritsend  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you found the channel regardless of your connection to the franchise!

    • @jlomeli4579
      @jlomeli4579 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@spiritsendif they’re all female then wouldn’t she need to identify as a boy to be trans? I made this same argument with Steven universe. Garnet isn’t really gay if their whole species are female and they reproduce via stones.

  • @tackytack
    @tackytack 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting way to stretch point-blank text

    • @spiritsend
      @spiritsend  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Reading it as is, it leaves room for filling in the gaps. Those gaps are small, but it's still gaps. I mentioned at the tail-end that the Italian dub straight up says that she turned into a woman from a man, but I am playing the English version. The translation is different from language to language. "I'm not their brother, I'm their sister" can be interpreted to more than just trans identity. "I was bullied into thinking I am their brother when I was always their sister" is how I fill in those gaps. For others, they fill in the gaps with text that isn't present, the same way I do, but with different text. "I once was their brother but now I am their sister" would directly point to her being trans.
      I have always been a fan of analyzing things I read then discussing. Not everyone will interpret a sentence or even a paragraph the same exact way when they read it, which is why I am happy to have conversations like this as long as they stay peaceful. :) Speaking of, thank you for your comment!

  • @gonhunter3994
    @gonhunter3994 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No

  • @Uzi6855
    @Uzi6855 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yes she is trans