Hey! Interesting thing about Muntz not appearing as old as he should be, early on in the film's development, the idea was that Kevin's eggs had a "fountain of Youth" property that Muntz used to stay young. If you happen to have/ get "the Art of Up" book, you can see some really cool development art of an ancient- looking Muntz. I'm actually not sure why this was cut out of the film, such a cool idea!
Obey Amma I remember reading somewhere that the reason people write those is because they are too scared to admit or accept the truth of what is happening.
To be honest, I'm falling into the category that this theory is just one of those "(X) has fantastical elements, so therefore one of the characters must be imagining it somehow/all or one of the characters are dead." It can apply to literally any form of fictional media, meaning it has no grounds whatsoever. They just change the wording to fit whatever story more, even though they always say the same things. The character's old? He must have died. The character's young? Must be imagining it Obviously that's not always the rule (See Eds in Purgatory theory), but that's usually what happens.
Robert Poole i agree. i think theories like this are lazy and are the equivalent of “and then they woke up!” endings to stories. it takes the magic out of media, i think.
normally I agree - but there seem to be so many overt nudges from the filmmmakers in this one, that it's hard to think it's not intended once you dig in. ' Ed Edd n Eddy purgatory theory' IMO is much more of a grasp.
Yeah, I will say that this is closer than normal, but it's still too much to agree with. Even though there are themes of accepting loss, those can be present whether or not Carl is dead. And, the only other thing that seems like possible proof (apart from the usual "This couldn't happen in real life!" stuff) is Charles Muntz (is that how you even spell his name) being about the same age as Carl, even though I'm 90% sure that's just a cop-out so they can still use him as a villain character.
Thanks for stoppin by :D Let me know if you think there are some other theories that I should check out for this series! PS - I've got a really huge SpaceJam/ SpaceJam 2 review coming out, and I need your guys' help! Reply to my post using the #StardustApp and let me know your thoughts to be featured in the review! stardust.app.link/Lewtoons
Please debunk the stupid "Tarzan is Anna and Elsa's brother!" theory. So many people are accepting it as fact just because some guy who worked on the film made a joke. That one makes zero sense.
The theory makes no sense. For one thing, Frozen takes place in the early to mid 1800's, Tarzan take place in the early 1900's. Also, their parents look totally different. Also, how do you leave Norway for a short trip to Rapunzel's, and end up shipwrecked in South Africa? I'm interested in seeing Chad's view on this too.
Somtimes taking a joke too seriously is just fun. If you want to see a theory based TH-camr who gets angry at this particular theory try "Thefangirl" most of her stuff is well put together but she can be a little biased on a few topics. A good example would be that she hates using Disney sequels when seeking out evidence for things.
happychaosofthenorth If u dont belive the theories then dont watch them. I know see something say something but u just sayin u hate it just dont.. Dont watch it
he actually dies when the storm hits and he "gets knocked out" because then on he is as active as he was in his 20's but earlier he couldn't go down the stairs.
One of the main reasons that this theory has never help up all that well for me besides the ending is Kevin. Just Kevin as a whole. If Carl is dead, Russel's the guardian angel and Muntz and his dogs represent his biggest idols and dreams, what is Kevin supposed to represent? Kevin is an incredibly important part of the story but with the afterlife theory he just doesn't fit at all. If he doesn't represent anything the whole theory basically falls apart.
That's exactly what I was gonna say! Where the fuck does Kevin falls in all of this? He's just part of the after-life for some reason? Heck, even Dug's role makes no sense in this theory.
i think that was part of his trial of giving things up. also learning to be selfless and help others, even strange creatures. and its not completely out of the blue, remember when he watched the Muntz film, there was a skeleton of the bird.
I usually don't like "the character was dead the whole time" theories, but this one is super interesting. Up is one of my favourite Pixar films too, and now I can't wait to watch it again through this lens. This is a really cool idea for a series and I can't wait to see the other videos you make for it!
What do you mean? Im looking up right now and the only video theorizing that is this one.... How could you be sick of it? this is literally the only video in the world saying that theory...
Carl's real life sucks and filled with misfortune In his imagine trip to afterlife, every action became just so smooth, fly house works, travel to dream destination in almost no time, meet rare bird, meet dream idol and he lives just as what Carl wish to be. They call it near death happiness. feeling joy to let go is what one's brain's last job
Loved the video so much... So glad that you're finally getting into this series (since you've wanted to do this for so long). This video was brilliantly set up (the three parts, etc.) and you've really dug in thoroughly which I can appreciate! Your channel is so very under appreciated.. Can't wait until the next upload!!
hey chad, good to see you again! i absolutely love this new segment, these kind of videos are so interesting! super excited to see more videos like this from you :-)
I’m about to destroy this theory 1: Carl should not feel pain when he is dead cause in one scene he broked his back and let out a scream. 2: How did George and A.J see him flying away with his house, if you do not know who is George and A.J they are the two nurses that where there to take Carl to the retirement village and also how did the other people saw him with his house. 3: If Russell is the guardian angel why would he leave Carl alone in paradise falls with his house he should had never do that. 4: When he reached Paradise Falls he should have seen Ellie cause it’s the gates of heaven at least Ellie should have been there. 5: In the ending he went to go get ice cream back at the main city he was in, but why would he be back we’re he started in the city, he should have been in paradise falls and plus again why is Ellie not there???. Last Thing: If Carl dies in his sleep, then how did those balloons get there in the first place cause he made a promise to Ellie to physically get the house to Paradise Falls and why would he fall asleep all of a sudden for no reason. Theory Busted
3 years late to this party but this was an amazing video! I hadn't really heard this theory until I saw the vid thumbnail popping up in my recommendations recently and I think next time I watch UP I'm going to think about it as the after life transition. As if that movie wasn't already super emotional TvT
10:44 you are pretty correct to put it in to support the theory but it could still be his psychology changing for the better and actually having a motivation
Cool note: at the beginning of his journey, Carl starts off with a box shape. At the end, he's rounder. I like how you present the theory and then rip it apart! And in the same video! Awesome!
I do believe Carl is dead throughout the whole movie. Up really is similar to Ghost, or my favorite movie, Beetlejuice. Sometimes the dead can't part with their worldly possessions, so they can't move on.
Theory: he was actually in a coma instead (idk how he probably fell down the stairs thats why we see the stairs chair) and russel was their dream child they never had
Russel’s mom or the guy handing out the badge at the ceremony could symbolise god applauding or bestowing the reward onto Russel for completing his goal, and then the credits could be heaven
I think the story probably is more about loss than it is about ghosts, and that the Carl being dead thing is more a byproduct of the loss part, but it does present that part of the story as something a bit more tangible if you chose to see it that way. Anyway, fun series! Can't wait for more.
my theory is that carl just had low confidence after ellie's death and didn't think he could do it so he employed a cane and the monorail chair thing to transit the stairs
i have another goof, and that is... some people become gray, early on, Carl might as well be in his 60s with health problems, but with spending some time in the fresh air, the jungle nature, his health goes up again
Possibly this theory could be true because Russell could have also been his guardian angel the whole time and those Pictures were of carls fantasy or something like that
Can anyone remind me the name of that ghost movie where the dude tries to kill some of the people he hates and you get to see what happens when he tries but it's all in his imagination and you see the person chilling just fine? I saw parts of it years ago and I still have the scenes I remember burned in my mind. One where he goes out into traffic to learn that cars just pass through him, one where he picks up a shotgun but it shows back up where it was before he touched it and one insane scene where he shoves a woman off a roof swing and she falls to her death, but it turns out she's totally fine. I know this is a vague description but i'm curious if anyone remembers this.
I actually LOVE movies and shows in black and white and i'm twelve. I did live my grandparents for 10 years so that is probably where I get my love for older content.
Apparently Charles is 23 at the start of the film which makes no sense, he looks at least 27, and Carl is 9, there is a 69 year time jump to Charles is 92 and Carl is 78.
I just watched this movie for the first time this weekend and I cried like a big baby. My daughter was like mom 🙄 are you okay ? 🥺 lol . I loved it !!!!
Pixar is big on “the message”, which is usually about love, family, learning, forgiveness, working together yada yada yada. I don’t think they would go too mystical and supernatural like this. If it is a ghost story, they’d be much more overt.
What if the Boy Scout is also Dead and he was actually a childhood friend of Carl? I mean he became bitter after his wife’s death maybe his subconscious depression Baugh back a childhood memory in the form of this dorky little boy.
Cool theory but at the end of the film Russell's mum appears at the end as russel receives his "assisting the elderly" badge. For me it doesn't really fit together although it would be interesting and sweet.
This "task" you are referring to is known as the Hero's Journey. Pretty much every good movie has it. From ghost stories to The Prince's Bride to Star Wars.
Did you miss the fact that the assisting the elderly badge literally shows the kid helping an old person *to the other side*? I was sure you'd comment on that.
If I can add something at 4:45 the alarm clock sounds like a heart monitor flatlining (Had to see a clip making sure it wasn't edited haven't really watched up in a while)
What I think-Carl died in the beginning of the movie UP and Russell is his guardian angel trying to help him cross into heaven maybe that’s why Carl always had dreams about his wife Ellie but what if Russell is Carl and Ellie’s miscarried child Russel wasn’t trying to earn a badge he was trying to earn his wings
Maybe the ceremony and the credits are representative of heaven, as Carl is finding joy not in his objects or memories, but with others and the reason Ellie was not there was because part of his trials were to let go of the past.
Even crazier, what if Russel was the ghost of the child Carl and Ellie lost? What if he came back to help his long-lost Dad cross over...
goof: russel is a bit asian xp
why would he be asian
We see his mom at the end so nah.
JEFFREY KAO Not really. Saying somebodies race isnt racist.
star rats bc Russell is Asian
I DEMAND TROOF.
TROOF OR WE RIOT!
Agreed! It's a lot more memorable.
Yakov Reznikov same!!!!!!!
We want TROOF
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TROOF
Troof :3
WE WANT THE TROOF, THE WHOLE TROOF, AND NOTHING BUT THE TROOF!!
Hey! Interesting thing about Muntz not appearing as old as he should be, early on in the film's development, the idea was that Kevin's eggs had a "fountain of Youth" property that Muntz used to stay young. If you happen to have/ get "the Art of Up" book, you can see some really cool development art of an ancient- looking Muntz. I'm actually not sure why this was cut out of the film, such a cool idea!
"Go toward the light, master" - Dug
No, stop
Go to the light stands for heaven
The “coma” theories are the worst
I recomend the It's all a dream episode from Quinton Reviews. It's bullshit
It's 90% of Theory's
Obey Amma I remember reading somewhere that the reason people write those is because they are too scared to admit or accept the truth of what is happening.
Obey Amma obviously every Disney main character is in a coma
They suck.
When carl shuts off his clock its sounds a lot like a flatline representing his death
You got a point
To be honest, I'm falling into the category that this theory is just one of those "(X) has fantastical elements, so therefore one of the characters must be imagining it somehow/all or one of the characters are dead." It can apply to literally any form of fictional media, meaning it has no grounds whatsoever. They just change the wording to fit whatever story more, even though they always say the same things.
The character's old? He must have died.
The character's young? Must be imagining it
Obviously that's not always the rule (See Eds in Purgatory theory), but that's usually what happens.
Robert Poole
i agree. i think theories like this are lazy and are the equivalent of “and then they woke up!” endings to stories. it takes the magic out of media, i think.
normally I agree - but there seem to be so many overt nudges from the filmmmakers in this one, that it's hard to think it's not intended once you dig in. ' Ed Edd n Eddy purgatory theory' IMO is much more of a grasp.
Yeah, I will say that this is closer than normal, but it's still too much to agree with. Even though there are themes of accepting loss, those can be present whether or not Carl is dead. And, the only other thing that seems like possible proof (apart from the usual "This couldn't happen in real life!" stuff) is Charles Muntz (is that how you even spell his name) being about the same age as Carl, even though I'm 90% sure that's just a cop-out so they can still use him as a villain character.
Thanks for stoppin by :D Let me know if you think there are some other theories that I should check out for this series! PS - I've got a really huge SpaceJam/ SpaceJam 2 review coming out, and I need your guys' help! Reply to my post using the #StardustApp and let me know your thoughts to be featured in the review! stardust.app.link/Lewtoons
Do a theory on whatever because i'll enjoy anything you do
Lewtoons the supercarlin brothers is a great place to go for movie theories. They're all bogus, but still entertaining.
Lewtoons don't you think theory videos are already well covered on TH-cam
The theory of the connection between Frozen and Tangled
Good idea and good video
Please debunk the stupid "Tarzan is Anna and Elsa's brother!" theory. So many people are accepting it as fact just because some guy who worked on the film made a joke. That one makes zero sense.
YES!!!!!!!! THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!
happychaosofthenorth Ehhh I like the theory. But it would be cool to see him analysie it
The theory makes no sense. For one thing, Frozen takes place in the early to mid 1800's, Tarzan take place in the early 1900's. Also, their parents look totally different. Also, how do you leave Norway for a short trip to Rapunzel's, and end up shipwrecked in South Africa? I'm interested in seeing Chad's view on this too.
Somtimes taking a joke too seriously is just fun. If you want to see a theory based TH-camr who gets angry at this particular theory try "Thefangirl" most of her stuff is well put together but she can be a little biased on a few topics. A good example would be that she hates using Disney sequels when seeking out evidence for things.
happychaosofthenorth If u dont belive the theories then dont watch them. I know see something say something but u just sayin u hate it just dont.. Dont watch it
he actually dies when the storm hits and he "gets knocked out" because then on he is as active as he was in his 20's but earlier he couldn't go down the stairs.
One of the main reasons that this theory has never help up all that well for me besides the ending is Kevin. Just Kevin as a whole. If Carl is dead, Russel's the guardian angel and Muntz and his dogs represent his biggest idols and dreams, what is Kevin supposed to represent? Kevin is an incredibly important part of the story but with the afterlife theory he just doesn't fit at all. If he doesn't represent anything the whole theory basically falls apart.
That's exactly what I was gonna say! Where the fuck does Kevin falls in all of this? He's just part of the after-life for some reason? Heck, even Dug's role makes no sense in this theory.
maybe she is supposed to represent the reward of adventure that you always look for but may not find? idk thats me grasping at straws
rachael beth But how does that work if Carl ends up finding it?
i think that was part of his trial of giving things up. also learning to be selfless and help others, even strange creatures. and its not completely out of the blue, remember when he watched the Muntz film, there was a skeleton of the bird.
i said i was grasping at straws.....
I usually don't like "the character was dead the whole time" theories, but this one is super interesting. Up is one of my favourite Pixar films too, and now I can't wait to watch it again through this lens. This is a really cool idea for a series and I can't wait to see the other videos you make for it!
God I am so freaking sick of these "Dead the whole time" theories. It was cool the first couple of times but after a while it gets old
Me too - that's why this is one of my favorite theories - holds a lot more water than any other I've read - and I've read lots.
same, most of those theories can get too weird, but i think i love this one
Well at least he is putting a cool spin on it with the proof the goof and the truth
@@apointlesspyro it gets old just like carl
What do you mean? Im looking up right now and the only video theorizing that is this one.... How could you be sick of it? this is literally the only video in the world saying that theory...
cartoon conspiracy mixed with film theory I Iove it!
Katherine Colglazier Don't forget the Theorizer.
Carl's real life sucks and filled with misfortune
In his imagine trip to afterlife, every action became just so smooth, fly house works, travel to dream destination in almost no time, meet rare bird, meet dream idol and he lives just as what Carl wish to be.
They call it near death happiness. feeling joy to let go is what one's brain's last job
How did his real life suck
@@chrisjohnson4464 well his wife couldn't bare a child and later she died he became alone and the construction guys tried to take his House
Truth be spelled troof is so amazingly ironic.
This is so freaking good! Can’t wait for more of the theories! ♥️
Loved the video so much... So glad that you're finally getting into this series (since you've wanted to do this for so long). This video was brilliantly set up (the three parts, etc.) and you've really dug in thoroughly which I can appreciate! Your channel is so very under appreciated.. Can't wait until the next upload!!
You could say that its the Gospel troof
hey chad, good to see you again! i absolutely love this new segment, these kind of videos are so interesting! super excited to see more videos like this from you :-)
This was really neat!! I hope to see more soon! :)
THE DISNEY DEBUNK INTRO THO 😍😍😍
Olivia M I don't think you spell debunk like that...
DCStrange I was typing really quickly and didn’t double check oops
I’m about to destroy this theory
1: Carl should not feel pain when he is dead cause in one scene he broked his back and let out a scream.
2: How did George and A.J see him flying away with his house, if you do not know who is George and A.J they are the two nurses that where there to take Carl to the retirement village and also how did the other people saw him with his house.
3: If Russell is the guardian angel why would he leave Carl alone in paradise falls with his house he should had never do that.
4: When he reached Paradise Falls he should have seen Ellie cause it’s the gates of heaven at least Ellie should have been there.
5: In the ending he went to go get ice cream back at the main city he was in, but why would he be back we’re he started in the city, he should have been in paradise falls and plus again why is Ellie not there???.
Last Thing: If Carl dies in his sleep, then how did those balloons get there in the first place cause he made a promise to Ellie to physically get the house to Paradise Falls and why would he fall asleep all of a sudden for no reason.
Theory Busted
Bro all you said could be after his death or during his death remember a minute is a lot of time lol
I can't wait for more episodes of this show, keep up the good work dude.😀
how about the *oof* ?
TheBronzeSword
I'm glad you didn't spell that uuf.
*OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF*
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3 years late to this party but this was an amazing video! I hadn't really heard this theory until I saw the vid thumbnail popping up in my recommendations recently and I think next time I watch UP I'm going to think about it as the after life transition. As if that movie wasn't already super emotional TvT
Lol what if Ellie was the one taking the pics of Carl Doug and Russell 😂
you should call it the troof. it would be funny.
10:44 you are pretty correct to put it in to support the theory but it could still be his psychology changing for the better and actually having a motivation
You're one of the best channels out there, and that's just the troof :)
*TROOF*
Can't wait for more of this series!
This is some good reasoning
Can't wait to see more!
i'm a huge fan of fan theories so this series will be so interesting to watch!
Cool note: at the beginning of his journey, Carl starts off with a box shape. At the end, he's rounder. I like how you present the theory and then rip it apart! And in the same video! Awesome!
3:12 i think my favorite is that one with the kid that makes monsters and everybody says "that's real good" X3
Muntz is Carl's personal purgatory. Defeating him makes him free and he can go on.
It was very evident from the ending titles that this adventure is kid's exaggerated imaginary interpretation of spending time with the old guy
I can't wait to see more!
I do believe Carl is dead throughout the whole movie. Up really is similar to Ghost, or my favorite movie, Beetlejuice.
Sometimes the dead can't part with their worldly possessions, so they can't move on.
Honestly
This is great 😄
I just realized that the alarm clock sounds like flatlining.
You know the beginning where Russell says “well I have to help you cross something” maybe he has to help him cross over” it’s crazy
Russel was supposed to help him cross the fucking road
Oh come on up was already so frickin depressing now this
I always thought it was weird that Carl and Charles were the same age
Same. Charles should’ve been dead
I didn't know you were becoming a theory channel
Theory: he was actually in a coma instead (idk how he probably fell down the stairs thats why we see the stairs chair) and russel was their dream child they never had
Russel’s mom or the guy handing out the badge at the ceremony could symbolise god applauding or bestowing the reward onto Russel for completing his goal, and then the credits could be heaven
Great video!
Great comment!
Joseph Moran great reply
very well made video
better than the ones that felt unbelievable
Your intro took forever I died of age.
I think Lewtoons has been so distracted by the last jedi that he never realised Ferdinand came out
Very cool!
OMG THIS WAS IN MY MIND..
got me crying in the club just watching this
Good video 👍🏻
Heaven doesn't have to be up in the sky, it can be anywhere.
Don’t make me more sad okay!?i am already crying on my birthday
Same... 😪
Um Happy birthday I guess
I think the story probably is more about loss than it is about ghosts, and that the Carl being dead thing is more a byproduct of the loss part, but it does present that part of the story as something a bit more tangible if you chose to see it that way.
Anyway, fun series! Can't wait for more.
Idk why that made me chuckle lol
on the goof, the credits could probably mean he is happy with his guardian angel, when you go to heaven i’m pretty sure your happy all the time
my theory is that carl just had low confidence after ellie's death and didn't think he could do it so he employed a cane and the monorail chair thing to transit the stairs
When Carl is running away from the dogs dug says follow the light master
i have another goof, and that is... some people become gray, early on, Carl might as well be in his 60s with health problems, but with spending some time in the fresh air, the jungle nature, his health goes up again
Possibly this theory could be true because Russell could have also been his guardian angel the whole time and those
Pictures were of carls fantasy or something like that
We need more!!!
2023 im still watching this...favorite movie
Can anyone remind me the name of that ghost movie where the dude tries to kill some of the people he hates and you get to see what happens when he tries but it's all in his imagination and you see the person chilling just fine? I saw parts of it years ago and I still have the scenes I remember burned in my mind. One where he goes out into traffic to learn that cars just pass through him, one where he picks up a shotgun but it shows back up where it was before he touched it and one insane scene where he shoves a woman off a roof swing and she falls to her death, but it turns out she's totally fine.
I know this is a vague description but i'm curious if anyone remembers this.
A new series👀🔥
Hello from 3 years ago
I just look at these films at face value and believe that everything that happened on screen actually happened
If i ever meet Pete Docter or Bob Peterson, i will ask them if this theory is true.
I actually LOVE movies and shows in black and white and i'm twelve. I did live my grandparents for 10 years so that is probably where I get my love for older content.
Please make such a vid about the theory that all Disney Pixar films are in the same universe just in different times
Apparently Charles is 23 at the start of the film which makes no sense, he looks at least 27, and Carl is 9, there is a 69 year time jump to Charles is 92 and Carl is 78.
she isn’t his mom, he even siad that, maybe a foster mom, but he siad she isn’t his mom. maybe he was pretending to be a human kid as a disguise
I just watched this movie for the first time this weekend and I cried like a big baby. My daughter was like mom 🙄 are you okay ? 🥺 lol . I loved it !!!!
Yeh no yeh Disney + show proves he’s very well alive
I'm in the middle of class and I'm crying....at least 2 people have come asking if I am ok
Pixar is big on “the message”, which is usually about love, family, learning, forgiveness, working together yada yada yada. I don’t think they would go too mystical and supernatural like this. If it is a ghost story, they’d be much more overt.
New Series BOIIIIIIIII
I REALLY LOVE the love story in the beginning of the movie But the rest of UP is AWESOME
Nice vid
wait.... It's a wonderful life.... is an episode of THE TWILIGHT ZONE!!! all these years watching both and I've never realized this O.o
Also how could anger and grief and pain be in experiences in heaven
Neat!
What if the Boy Scout is also Dead and he was actually a childhood friend of Carl? I mean he became bitter after his wife’s death maybe his subconscious depression Baugh back a childhood memory in the form of this dorky little boy.
You should see how many balloons it would take to a morden house or the house in the movie cuz that was definitely bs
yes more lewtoons wait are you going to make more videos often Chad?
Cool theory but at the end of the film Russell's mum appears at the end as russel receives his "assisting the elderly" badge. For me it doesn't really fit together although it would be interesting and sweet.
This "task" you are referring to is known as the Hero's Journey. Pretty much every good movie has it. From ghost stories to The Prince's Bride to Star Wars.
The fact that he actually died from the beginning and the story is him going to heaven is actually tru based on google.
Did you miss the fact that the assisting the elderly badge literally shows the kid helping an old person *to the other side*? I was sure you'd comment on that.
14:26 welp this theory has once again been sent a blaze and this time even hotter.
I was born 2005 and I LOVE the Twilight Zone. ♡ It's so well written!
That intro tho 😍
How would he be seen and hurt the worker and Carl getting sued
If I can add something at 4:45 the alarm clock sounds like a heart monitor flatlining (Had to see a clip making sure it wasn't edited haven't really watched up in a while)
What I think-Carl died in the beginning of the movie UP and Russell is his guardian angel trying to help him cross into heaven maybe that’s why Carl always had dreams about his wife Ellie but what if Russell is Carl and Ellie’s miscarried child Russel wasn’t trying to earn a badge he was trying to earn his wings
Russel was his guardian angel? And he might be trying to achieve his wings?
Maybe the ceremony and the credits are representative of heaven, as Carl is finding joy not in his objects or memories, but with others and the reason Ellie was not there was because part of his trials were to let go of the past.
THIS IS NOT RUIN MY CHILD HOOD