The Code - Pirate Krait MKII vs. PvP FDL - 1v1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- This PvP Prismatic FDL CMDR interdicted me at the rare trading CG in my Pirate outfit Krait MKII.
When I'm running the PvP build, it's usually 5A Prismatics with two 6A SCBs.
However, in the Pirate build, I need to make room for a Size 5 cargo slot, so I run the 6A Prismatics with only one 6A SCB.
That's what I was running here, and I was at a distinct disadvantage. Not to mention I started a full ring of shields down.
However, let this be a lesson. Never assume anything in emergent PvP. If it makes sense to do so, stay in the fight. You just might win.
Also, if your tactics and flying aren't working, change it up. Do something unpredictable. Fight on your own terms, not on somebody else's.
And finally, when the advantage tips your way, go for the jugular, because if you don't, the other guy will.
Was a cool fight, wish you would've given him mercy as he asked you to PVP
Yep, he was a nice guy. "pvp? oh, ok" our dude: total ignore for any form of communication
Nice. I'm also one who refuses to use keyboard and mouse. Just does not feel like flying a spaceship.
HOTAS for life, Commander. o7
o7
HOTAS GANG GANG!
HOTAS and rudder pedals for me, hoping i can add voice attack and track ir or vr to my set up soon!
Yeah I realize keyboard and mouse offers superior ease of aim, but fuck that, I want to FLY. Anyone know of a good joystick curve program though?
I know this was 4 years ago, so sorry to resurrect a long dead fight but damn, that was beautiful! That dude must have thought "This is gonna be ez!". Nice man! That put a smile on my face :)
That was the best dog fight I've seen in a while.
sorry, he missed so fucking much, how the fuck your brain connected those dots
@@iwuanadie1058 they're using fixed plasma acc w/o FA, of course they're going to miss sometimes. The comment was referring to the fight overall, not the individual performance of them.
It's fun watching real pilots when I play elite as truck simulator. Good shit commander!
That was propably the nicest FDL pilot ive ever seen, he asked if youd do pvp after interdicting you.
Normaly i associate FDL = Scumbag due to how many actual scumbags fly that OP thing.
Ive got 7 fully eng FDLs. 3 of them for PvP bh. Never ganked/griefed a single fellow CMDR.
Criminals on the other hand..
o7
CMDR J.Dubs
@@jdubs2171 Nice to know that there is more than one. But seriously, 7 of the same ship? Id get bored out of my mind XD
@@FullMetalFox2 Well theyre 7 out of around 40 in my fleet (Playing since around release). On the olde Eng sys, it was hard to pass on good rolls when they werent exactly what was needed, atm. So sometimes bought new FDLs to store Eng modules and to manifest wep loadout ideas I had been sitting on. Past that, I dont care for the module swapping. I build and Eng them tight, so I can just pull them over and fly.
And bored? Not a chance! FDL is the most fun ship in the game, imho.
@@jdubs2171 Okay i never got that deep into engineering before the new system, i just dont have to time to spend on it due to RL. So for me its always been switching stuff, the only ship ive ever hat 2 off was the Krait Mk2, one for PvE one for Exploration, but one of them has also been replaced with a Conda.
I hate the FDL to be honest. I did own one fitted for PvP, later for PvE, and it just feelt wrong how i could just wipe the floor with Cmdrs i usually had fun duels with, or how easy it was using it for bounty hunting. And well since i now know that its the prevered meta of the PvP crowd due to its nearly "perfect" combination of stats, i dont need to wonder why. Aside that i dont really like its design and Cockpit.
So my FDL got sold and i propably will refuse to touch it again unles it either gets nerfed or other ships buffed, anything to break the monotony of fighting meta fitted FDLs/FASs all the time.
Until then ill have some fun with my Krait and Chieftain, and some oddball Duels with other Cmdrs who dont fly Meta Fittings.
@@FullMetalFox2 Yeah, I can feel most of that. The Mamba and other med combat focused ships are def imperative for better balancing. Tho the chief is def a great counter. Basically Vulture 2.0. I would argue against the FDL being gamebreaking tho. I honestly didnt care much for it before Palin.
I dont blame you for not Eng much on the old Eng sys. Literally took about 3-4 months (avg 100-300hrs) to Eng a ship from scratch to acceptable. Many more if you were insistent upon God-Rolls. Hell, when the Engs first came out, alot of people got trapped in Gather-Condas bc on top of the mats you also needed rare commodities for the Engs!
I wont deny that Ive put a ton of time into this game, esp on the old Eng sys. Beats being at work tho. Lol. I really love having as many purpose-built ships, esp the combat ones.
On the PvP metas, yeah the FDL is formidable, not inconquerable, tho. It mostly has to do with the pilot. Ive seen 1v1s, Viper vs FDL, where the Viper mops the floor. No absolutes in this galaxy. The Chief is the very best counter to the FDL, atm, imo.
Conda is an excellent choice for anything! Thats my most used ship. Krait M2 is nice as well. I feel like the Krait is the compromise between the FGS and the FAS. With a better armor rating, it could hold its own as well as the FAS in intractable engagements.
200 hours in the game. somewhat understand game mechanics. watched this, my jaw dropped
FDL: o7 CMDR (trying to say good fight and run)
Krait: BISH YOU SAID PVP! ONE OF US GOTTA DIE!
if krait can preform like this against a fdl. imagine putting the slf into the fray. then I think krait wins against the fdl
FA off made this harder than it needed to be
That was an Awesome ending!
ah, someone who understands the sublime joy of ramming.
Ahhhh the early stages of HOTAS FAOFF... Keep it up though. You'll get it soon enough! =)
And no, you don't need curves.
Excellent marksmanship toward the end Commander. Good flying. Not keen on the ramming tactic myself, a little ungentlemanly for my liking, but all is fair in love and PVP. Congratulations, you are a formidable pilot. 07.
o7 Commander. Huge respect for the HOTAS FA/Off Fixed. I too have traveled down this path and I cant recommend it enough-- it really is satisfying to see it all come together. I dont use curves either, but they could be useful for those long range rail shots (I'm just too lazy to set them up). In any case, from one pirate to another, great vid.
MesaFalcon yeah I think curves might help once you are on target. The PIO I mentioned is a real aviation term, especially in the military, and that’s what’s going on there. There is just too much sensitivity in the lower movement range while FAOff. That’s why all the PvP lords went KBM/Relative Mouse and called themselves “Gud”. I don’t like it though. Yes it’s more precise, but I’m a sim purist, and have had a HOTAS for 15 years. If I wanted to play Freelancer I’d go play that, but I want the full experience in Elite Dangerous, even if it’s more difficult! And thanks!
MesaFalcon PS - Are you a PvP Pirate? Looking for a player group?
discord.gg/sTxHkv
Amen to that, man. I tried the KB/Mouse thing and I just found it killed the enjoyment of the game for me-- I too consider myself a bit of a sim purist. HOTAS all the way!
I am indeed a PvP pirate, as are most of the folks I fly with. I'd love to wing up sometime. Is that The Code Discord?
MesaFalcon yes it is.
Is it possible to retrofit this build to suit exploration? Right now I've got a krait with size 6 grade a shields and upgraded armour with a single shield booster but the rest is purely exploration focused and I get 30lys
My Krait phantom gets 68.59ly with a size 4 shield and a SRV
Well fucking played my friend.
i tried using pa for bounty hunting didnt work out
wow impressive :O
Was smart !! By the way I noticed you had Cargo malfunction at the end of the fight. Did you loose your Booty ? :-P
So whats your best Pirate ship nowadays? Can you share with us your opinion?
U need to link that build my friend if you can;)
Dark Lord1o1 s.orbis.zone/7ly there you go
Im a pirate in training and does fa off turn faster?
yea
OMG I named my Phantom the Ebon Hawk too!
Overcharged PA?
hes been nothing but nice and abided to all the rules of chivalry and you just gunned him down lol
THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG
That was exciting!
currently trawling PvP videos for tips as I intend to start getting a little more into it soon. this video is great, not seen such a change in tactic mid fight so far that swung the tide of the fight so dramatically... noted for future reference. o7
is there somewhere you can see the difference in shields strength between 1 pip & 4 pips?
@@Spike00773 (necro, i know, but for anyone else seeing this) Actually, it's 2.6 times as strong. 0.4 of base strength extra for every pip.
WOW!!! That was a great fight... way to turn the tables!!!
You fought the good fight, commander o7
Hat off to you man...o7
Man this stuff was dope!
Cool as fuck but using plasma accelerators on a Krait has got to be aids. Engineered gimbals weapons would've definitely won you the fight sooner.
Is the fighter bay viable in PVP?
Only if you have crew with you.
Yes
That was very inspiring commander. Props to both and especially to you for continuing a fight that seemed lost. I believe FAO with hotas is almost impossible even when altering axis curves. KBM has a huge advantage over it.
Against a FDL ...Nice! You'd be even deadlier with Voice Attack installed to cover everything other than firing weapons.
I use the X52 Pro aswell and I’m also a bit shaky with FAOff. Keep up the good work and FAOff will be a breeze!
Nice fight CMDR, and hey...Roll Tide
Gold
Damn. Crazy to think the leader of the code cant fly fa off. Dont get me wrong I cant either. On could say im actually still kinda new to pvp. Its just kinda cool to see that you dont have to be a PERFECT pilot to hold your own in a fight
Greg Specht FAOff is incorrectly thought to be the “end all be all” of PvP. It is not. It has its place, and not very often but at least a few times in this video you’ll see that I DO use it. It just doesn’t make sense in all situations. Some of the best PvPers I’ve ever seen are FAOn primarily and FAOff strictly as needed (togglers), as I am. Sometimes you want the ship to go EXACTLY where you point it when you point it there, and FAOff doesn’t always lend itself well to that. However if you’re being focused by fixed weapon fire and need to make your opponent miss, its excellent and I do use it for that and it works well. The moral of the story: use both, and use them appropriately.
@@CMDRFlyAuburn yea personally im a toggler as well. If i have to turn my ship more than 45° to get the angle I want ill toggle for it. I also use fa off as kind of a high gear for my laterals because of the acceleration and cap differences. But what I meant is that I think its pretty safe to say that flying purely fa off all the time is definitely harder, at least for most people. Reminds me of a funny drinking game I heard of. Listen to the interstellar soundtrack while playing and every time "No time for caution" comes on, take three shots of vodka and turn of flight assist and rotational correction for the next two times you dock
Greg Specht oh it IS harder, but that doesn’t make it the right choice of all of the time. Also I’ve stubbornly refused to use ‘curves’ for my X52, which would probably instantly make it much easier.
@@CMDRFlyAuburn yea i didnt know curves could actually be useful. I always thought it was some silly shit that like 0.01% of people used, like mouse acceleration and that kind of thing.
Imagine relying on ramming and then killing a respectful pvp fdl lmao. It must be harder to be that bad at the game than to lose a fight to you
Olympus Mons ramming has been part of combat and PvP since Day 1. When in a fight, any fight, you use any means necessary to win. If your opponent fails to be imaginative enough to see what’s coming, they stand to lose. This isn’t a gentleman’s game of chess. It’s a fight to the death. You must be Brititsh. Only the Brits think about warfare as some turn based gentleman’s strategy game.
CMDR Fly Auburn I am from the US, I am not British.
You sir need some pip management macros 🫡