Oldschool MC Battles Thank you for uploading this. This had certain parts that weren’t on TH-cam yet. Do you have more footage of Locksmith from this MTV Battle event?
@@stephencook7337 no "def jam" had the OPTION to sign "reign man" but winning this competition was not a guarantee of a record deal, and "def jam" chose NOT to sign "reign man" -- also that 25 grand they were talking about lol.........total lie, there was no 25 grand never was 25 grand -- had "def jam" of signed the winner of this competition, that 25k would be used a loan for production cost of your album HAD "DEF JAM" Of SIGNED YOU, which they didnt!!! so.....there was no 25k nor was there anything else (video game, tour, etc) whole thing was a complete lie lol -- no 25 grand, no record deal, no tour, no video game NOTHING!!!! (I know cause I was good friends with "locksmith" he told me everything ---- seriously bro, MTV aint gonna pay someone 25k like that lol I WOULDNT
@@bigpoppa800 well then MTV is a big bunch of liars I suppose. I guess both of them should not have agreed to show off their talents and just kept building themselves up
I learned about lock in like 2014 and then rj Payne just a few years ago. Learned about both of them through freestyles, wish they would get in a cypher together at some point. Crazy to realize how long they've been perfecting their craft
@@kevin4Xajstribling Facts Shout out to Rj Payne and Locksmith I personally think Locksmith won but he is a west coast artist in a east coast competition with east Coast judges it was rigged tell me I am wrong!
@@jordanolafson80 when I was younger back when this first came out I was rooting for Reignman and always thought locksmith misplaced his energy. Then a decade ago I felt that locksmith did even worse. Now as I watch it today I feel like it was even first round goes to rain second round goes to lock
The other dude has two bars the rest was just disrespectfor shock RJ Payne won he has a punchline every other like too many metaphors and similes they don't compare if you rap you understand
Locksmith was robbed in this set up battle. Other dude wasn't supposed to even be in the battle cause he was a making the band reject. Against the rules to be in 2 mtv contest in one year.
@Bud Borne Bruh, I was just about to say this. Grown men walking around today with pants so tight you can see how much change they have in their pocket from across the damn street. lol
@@TechRyze stfu dckhead your talking rubbish Locksmith is a way better lyracists than Reign Man or Rj Payne what ever you wanna call hommie he still is to this day better although Rj Payne has improved lyracley eg Leatherface 3 is bananas!
You srs? He been blowing up on instagram and has completely revived his career based off his freestyles, and he was on shade 45 a few years ago and killed it. Latest radio appearance was on bars on I-95 where he went off. He doin tracks with Method man, did one a year ago about to drop another one, Eminem and Lil Wayne were talking about him on Waynes podcast, he has respect from a ton of legends
Nah reign man looked like that cause lock said “I’ll smack you with the same rag I use to wipe my tit with” 🥴 and the guy in his corner is Keith Murray who was only in his corner as part of the show
He didn't he had like 2 smilies you can't go to a rap battle just being disrespectful and thinking you're gonna win this isn't wildnout RJ Payne had so many similes and metaphors every other line he easily won
@@aosel-gharably2236 reign man didn't say shit. That's what rap battles all about. Look up why they did rap battles in the first place. If you want poetry, go read poems. Rap consists of all of that and more.
I'll treat you like the Asian do the neptunes and make you play in the background that line I still remember till this day The crowd was biased maybe they were just looking for tone but locksmith had the bars Is 4 sure
Locksmith is a way better lyracists then reign man or who he go's by now Rj Payne even though hommie has improved he still to this day can't touch the Hommie Locksmith!
WOOOOOOOW WOOOOOW WOOOOW WTF WTF. IN-FUCK'-SANITY. I'm a heavy R.J. PAYNE & LOCKSMITH fan. Lock had this battle won with only his 1st verse. This right here is what's wrong with hip hop. The TV viewers who voted have no idea wtf they were doing. Obviously don't know a battle from a Migos song. Now-a-days this battle would have turned out way different regardless of who won.
2022 BEING FROM RICHMOND CA I STILL FEEL DISRESPECTED .LOCKSMITH PUT THE RICH ON THE MAP AND THAT OUT WINS ANY TROPHY ...I HOPE HE DOING GOOD AND WELL ..
Ive got all these battles on audio. MTV use to always have dope content like this. WildnOut doesnt come close to these battles.. I still think Lock won
Eeessshhh!!!! these two here were hot then, and now as we speak they both still dropping insane material . these two mc's definitely have made history in Hip-hop . i will remember this battle as classic as a ""KRS1 vs Shan"" , Super nat vs Juice, or even a Nas vs Jay z classic .. I think they have to get it inn one more time for the culture . Rj payne is a beast just like Locksmith they both animals . 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Im here because I was watching a RJ interview where he talked about this battle. im a fan of his but honestly he got cooked in this battle......I feel like they gave the win to RJ because his IMAGE is/was more marketable......Locksmith looks middle eastern and from the bay area.....Def Jam cant sell that.
Locksmith won this square off, but leading up to this battle Reignman/RJ Payne threw more comical and witty bars at his opponents then Lock did with his..Thats why Reignman won the audience vote..
Locksmith SMOKED him first round Reign was jumping second round, but didnt hit hard as far as a “battle.” Lock was straight disrespectful second round and devoured. No disrespect to either lyricist but Lock was objectionably better. Sorry.
I’m glad RJ won, as much as I rock with Locksmith, Payne slaughtered this. The way RJ rapped in this battle was the complete pinnacle and epitome of battle rap. That being said Locksmith definitely improved after this battle, cause every battle on Grind-time he slaughtered and won. This the only battle I can say he gracefully lost.
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Oldschool MC Battles Thank you for uploading this. This had certain parts that weren’t on TH-cam yet. Do you have more footage of Locksmith from this MTV Battle event?
Honestly NOT winning the deal with Def Jam was probably the best thing to happen to Lock.
NITE, I wanted Nite, she off da hook!!!
What even happened to Reign Man? Never heard anything from him after this. Did he even drop an album or what?
@@stephencook7337 no "def jam" had the OPTION to sign "reign man" but winning this competition was not a guarantee of a record deal, and "def jam" chose NOT to sign "reign man" -- also that 25 grand they were talking about lol.........total lie, there was no 25 grand never was 25 grand -- had "def jam" of signed the winner of this competition, that 25k would be used a loan for production cost of your album HAD "DEF JAM" Of SIGNED YOU, which they didnt!!! so.....there was no 25k nor was there anything else (video game, tour, etc) whole thing was a complete lie lol -- no 25 grand, no record deal, no tour, no video game NOTHING!!!! (I know cause I was good friends with "locksmith" he told me everything ---- seriously bro, MTV aint gonna pay someone 25k like that lol I WOULDNT
@@bigpoppa800 well then MTV is a big bunch of liars I suppose. I guess both of them should not have agreed to show off their talents and just kept building themselves up
@@stephencook7337 lol -- to be honest with you, I wanted "nite" im surprised "nite" never blew up and made it, I liked "nite" she was good!!!!
RJ payne has definitely EVOLVED into a lyrical force!!!
Who would of known 20 years later RJ Payne & method man would drop a track... Butterfly effect...
A Certified Classic !!!!
No… just two people crossing paths on their journey in life.
Glad to see both of the still out here killing it.
the fact they both end up wit a future as hip hop greats tells u how much u really don't need a label
Bay boy killed that New York nigga they always gotta cheat 😂😂
He's not from ny
I learned about lock in like 2014 and then rj Payne just a few years ago. Learned about both of them through freestyles, wish they would get in a cypher together at some point. Crazy to realize how long they've been perfecting their craft
2021 both dudes still get busy!
They should do a song together now that would be dope
They both are way evolved now! Perfect timing considering locksmith activism and rj paynes buzz.
Is that rj payne?
Yes it is.
💯% is my g Rj Payne was known as Reign Man back in he's battle rap days!
Now they both on 110 deep💯🖤🌍
@@kevin4Xajstribling Facts Shout out to Rj Payne and Locksmith I personally think Locksmith won but he is a west coast artist in a east coast competition with east Coast judges it was rigged tell me I am wrong!
@@jordanolafson80 when I was younger back when this first came out I was rooting for Reignman and always thought locksmith misplaced his energy. Then a decade ago I felt that locksmith did even worse. Now as I watch it today I feel like it was even first round goes to rain second round goes to lock
yo that fight was rigged son, reign man aint never landed one punch
One of the biggest Robberies in battle rap history. Even Reign Man was surprised he won.
not to me. maybe it was the other dudes punchlines i didnt really like
The other dude has two bars the rest was just disrespectfor shock RJ Payne won he has a punchline every other like too many metaphors and similes they don't compare if you rap you understand
It was a preference battle
They both were dope but to be fair locksmith was off beat ...
@@mauricesmith6650 fuck no. you must be from east coast
Locksmith and RJ Payne need to collab.
Locksmith and Wordsmith need to do a track too.
Locksmith and Lupe Fiasco needs to happen too.
30 seconds a round is not enough for these 2 great lyricist they both needed more time
Takes more skill
They should do a WHERE ARE THEY NOW on these 2..lock is one of the greatest lyricist now..
You heard of RJ Payne?? That's him, he is doing fine lol.
@@clarktownsend8991 facts
lol thats mecca from my expert opinion rapping in the intro
I was just wondering if was the ol boy 😆
I've been wanting to see this since RJ Payne is killing shit right now.
Locksmith was robbed in this set up battle. Other dude wasn't supposed to even be in the battle cause he was a making the band reject. Against the rules to be in 2 mtv contest in one year.
Whaaaaaat the fuck are you talking about🤫
This was before Making the Band. He did this twice, then landed on Making the Band
YEA LOOK UP RJ PAYNE NOW YOU SOUND DUMB ASF
You wrong buddy
Reign man is from philly
Damn I can’t believe we used to dress like this 4XL shirts and pants 8 sizes bigger
@Bud Borne Bruh, I was just about to say this. Grown men walking around today with pants so tight you can see how much change they have in their pocket from across the damn street. lol
Now everything is skinny 😭😭
Better than this g*y tight ish
better than wearing skinny jeans like a bih...
@@brock2872Sad but true 😭😭😭😭
locksmith definitely got robbed 🤦♂️
Lmfao you are on crack
It was an obvious robbery.
Locksmith clearly won man
@@AAKVIILol nah man all he had was a bunch of cheap vulgarities 😅
Locksmith got robbed! Sad to say this was the era when only the east coast rappers got love
Not being signed by def jam probably is actually winning then and now hah.
West Coast was considered dead after Pac died, The Game was responsible for bringing it back after 9 years.
Locksmith was wack
@@TechRyze stfu dckhead your talking rubbish Locksmith is a way better lyracists than Reign Man or Rj Payne what ever you wanna call hommie he still is to this day better although Rj Payne has improved lyracley eg Leatherface 3 is bananas!
Yeah reign man lost this it RJ Payne will flame this nigga
Perfect example of how fakeness pays it way through real Hip Hop. No contest.. Locksmith
locksmith won easily
He had two bars the rest was disrespect for shock value
@@aosel-gharably2236 you must be new to battle rap. Welcome
@@dondanana9573 you must not even rap. Go to poetry class learn what metaphors, similes oxymorons homophones are then listen again
@@aosel-gharably2236 again welcome to battle rap youngata
That Dude was surprised, that he even won that. And LockSmith still became better then. A lot of those guys that were on stage.
Let me know when Mr. Payne goes on radio shows and has legends in awe or on Shade 45 and kills it multiple times
You srs? He been blowing up on instagram and has completely revived his career based off his freestyles, and he was on shade 45 a few years ago and killed it. Latest radio appearance was on bars on I-95 where he went off. He doin tracks with Method man, did one a year ago about to drop another one, Eminem and Lil Wayne were talking about him on Waynes podcast, he has respect from a ton of legends
No foul language. LOL
LMAO Locksmith tried to have his Eminem 8mile moment 2:56. "Now everybody in the 213......" HAHAHAHAHA
Yep, especially considering this battle was 6 months after 8 mile release date.
Bro did his fuckin thing, eminem would be proud
Clothes wild baggy for no reason 😂
This was the era of hip hop fashion I'm glad I missed. Locksmith killed it. Bay area stand up!
Yeah I know right I mean tight gay skinny jeans is so much better.
@@southlondon86 if you were 13......
southlondon86 yes it actually is better then baggy ass pants that make you look like your wearing some fucking bed sheets
@@oscarmallow2128 Haha wearing jeans that a lot of men have to sit down and put on like women are better lol. They both equally terrible!
You gotta be men to wear baggy jeans...I thought skinny jeans were only for women lol
Was that Mecca rapping in the intro?!?!😮😂😂😂
Sure Was lol . He been around for a min
Nostalgic feeling! When MTV was worth watching
Is that mecca from my expert opinion rapping at the beginning? 🤔
around 3:36 reign man n even the guy in his corner were feelin locksmith 😂 he should of won that was messd up
Nah reign man looked like that cause lock said “I’ll smack you with the same rag I use to wipe my tit with” 🥴 and the guy in his corner is Keith Murray who was only in his corner as part of the show
@@ZarbonSpitwell me and like 98% of this comment section say locksmith won this. He got robbed
Instant subscriber!
Watching this with pride as a kid. Loved seeing the Bay being represented because it rarely happened at that time.
Locksmith got jacked!
He got robbed.
Locksmith is fucking trash water.
#MAGA MAN i hadnt seen this in forever win i saw it i remembered y i like it locksmith killd the first round hands down sh*t was fire
Buhl rm won from the beginning before they even started rapping. Locksmith levels above buhl
Funny thing is they both on my playlist
Two great mcs of all time
I witnessed a robbery...
Fast forward 2023,both these guys are Legends in there own right 👍🙏
Fact locksmith just in his own element tho
Its Payne!!....
Damn sway was born with that hat on huh!?!? Haha
😂😂😂
Both are gods of rap now... 🙏
Reign Man is RJ Payne
Legit just came here to see if anyone else said this, krazy 🔥🔥🔥
And Izzie fareal
@@johnpowell6778 lol facts always switching it
Anyone know the first beat?
Guess who's back - Scarface
@@septv9995 thank you
Fast forward 20 years….and RJ and Meth got 🔥 records together. The irony
Reign man got smacked. He was re evaluating his life 1st rd.
Locksmith murdered it!! No way he lost this! No way!
Hell yea
I almost forgot about this. I'm glad Hip Hop has evolved and they accept different races now because Locksmith won this clearly smh😂
He didn't he had like 2 smilies you can't go to a rap battle just being disrespectful and thinking you're gonna win this isn't wildnout RJ Payne had so many similes and metaphors every other line he easily won
@@aosel-gharably2236 that's what a rap battle is about lol.
@@aosel-gharably2236 reign man didn't say shit. That's what rap battles all about. Look up why they did rap battles in the first place. If you want poetry, go read poems. Rap consists of all of that and more.
@@aosel-gharably2236 Fuck no bro, you trippin. Locksmith is the GOAT
Locksmith is half Black, half Iranian. But the judges and audience might not have known that.
Lock looking like someone pissed in his cereal
Bullshitt. Locksmith was Robbed. Cuz he was light skinned. Smh
Lock is so dope. I can’t believe this shit!
An look at em now. Both are highly respected in the underground. Def Jam never had any business trying to handel battle rappers.
Plenty of battlers were on def jam... Dmx, Redman etc
I'll treat you like the Asian do the neptunes and make you play in the background that line I still remember till this day
The crowd was biased maybe they were just looking for tone but locksmith had the bars Is 4 sure
Listen to Lloyd Banks get down featuring prodigy and you'll understand why that's not an original bar
Both of em 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yoooo I was like why homie look so sad and then realized it was Locksmith 😂😂😂
Sooo nobody realizes that at the beginning of this video it's Mr Mecc from math hoffa's My expert opinion podcast rapping??? That gotta be him.
That's Mecc in the intro 😮
Locksmith is a way better lyracists then reign man or who he go's by now Rj Payne even though hommie has improved he still to this day can't touch the Hommie Locksmith!
Shut up clown
Reed dollaz and this man had Philly on lock back in the day
Method man clownin like he ain't dipped in our bay gear smfh
And in 2022 RJ Payne dropping Fyah with Meth 🔥🔥🔥
They should do a track in 2024 both evolved to be even bigger beasts.
WOOOOOOOW WOOOOOW WOOOOW WTF WTF. IN-FUCK'-SANITY. I'm a heavy R.J. PAYNE & LOCKSMITH fan. Lock had this battle won with only his 1st verse. This right here is what's wrong with hip hop. The TV viewers who voted have no idea wtf they were doing. Obviously don't know a battle from a Migos song. Now-a-days this battle would have turned out way different regardless of who won.
I think he was just easier to market, I didn't feel he won, but he had the look & the NY slang
Yea I think you right fam
It's crazy how young they both are here
2022 BEING FROM RICHMOND CA I STILL FEEL DISRESPECTED .LOCKSMITH PUT THE RICH ON THE MAP AND THAT OUT WINS ANY TROPHY ...I HOPE HE DOING GOOD AND WELL ..
I can’t believe people wore extra large clothes like that Nore looks crazy
LOL yeah that was an era that I lived in......oversized jeans and shirts were in around that time. We all looked like Def Jam Vendetta characters
I miss it lol
It's starting to make a comeback
Ive got all these battles on audio. MTV use to always have dope content like this. WildnOut doesnt come close to these battles.. I still think Lock won
I remember being 😞 with the result lock clearly won it and I think Luda was there and said it too
Yea i can imagine Luda going with locks bars lol
Eeessshhh!!!! these two here were hot then, and now as we speak they both still dropping insane material . these two mc's definitely have made history in Hip-hop . i will remember this battle as classic as a ""KRS1 vs Shan"" , Super nat vs Juice, or even a Nas vs Jay z classic ..
I think they have to get it inn one more time for the culture . Rj payne is a beast just like Locksmith they both animals . 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yoooo thats Mecca from the Math Hoffa show in the intro lord ... yall ain't peep dat??
Oh snap that was Mecc in the intro
Back then the East Coast bias was still well and alive
“And by the way, I’m writing the check!” was the bar of the battle.
Lock killed that dude. That was straight political
Proverbs 8:13
"The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate."
RJ Payne before RJ Payne.
I love how lock looks away when method does his sus act. You can really sense the disappointment.
An rj Payne is a way better mc to the this day...shit especially this day
They're both good but Payne is the best out
PAYNE ‼️‼️‼️ Shout Out To Panda Chop For Bringing Me Back Here . Salute RJ Payne & Locksmith
I really forgot all about this
Locksmith shit was WRITTEN 😐 ya'll need to stop it, Reign was off da dome n on beat...
Written ? He was referencing rm’s bats and throwing them back at em. Stop II
Lol krazy Keith Murray in da back
🔥 Reign Man won that battle‼️ 😂 Yall trippin with the “he got robbed”‼️
Beem rocking with Lock for ever... stumbled across R.J payne yesterday.. damn both got bara
Was that Mekka from my expert opinion?
Yo reign man ain't drop a single personalized diss it was all some generic sounding studio shit.
What's the3rdjudges nsme?
Locksmith shoulda won but I feel like the only reason he didn't was because his rhymes were to disrespectful for Def jam
I have the whole battle on VHS…
Im here because I was watching a RJ interview where he talked about this battle. im a fan of his but honestly he got cooked in this battle......I feel like they gave the win to RJ because his IMAGE is/was more marketable......Locksmith looks middle eastern and from the bay area.....Def Jam cant sell that.
Locksmith won this square off, but leading up to this battle Reignman/RJ Payne threw more comical and witty bars at his opponents then Lock did with his..Thats why Reignman won the audience vote..
Carson Dailey was the original Lush One
When I was a kid I though reign won but now that I’m older it was lock
Locksmith SMOKED him first round
Reign was jumping second round, but didnt hit hard as far as a “battle.”
Lock was straight disrespectful second round and devoured.
No disrespect to either lyricist but Lock was objectionably better. Sorry.
I’m glad RJ won, as much as I rock with Locksmith, Payne slaughtered this.
The way RJ rapped in this battle was the complete pinnacle and epitome of battle rap.
That being said Locksmith definitely improved after this battle, cause every battle on Grind-time he slaughtered and won. This the only battle I can say he gracefully lost.
But what was the first beat they rhymed off of?
Payne looking at Lock like you talking some funny ish bruh dafuq 😅
Damn, is this Sway Calloway hosting this?