Great review, what's your preferred controller now is it this one or the nb4. I'm deciding between these 2 but nb4 gonna be annoying to change out my current dumborc receivers which is on multiple of my RTRs cars.
If you already have a lot of cars with receivers that are compatible with Multiprotocol then MT12 is a really good choice. The OS might be difficult to operate at first but you'll get used to it. Personally I prefer NB4 but changing the receivers for the entire fleet is a complete nightmare and the cost will be way too expensive.
@BeaversHobby I've been checking and researching the prices of both systems all in prices (all cars on board) if I were to shift to either mt12 or nb4 system. NB4 system is around x2 the cost. Can i ask for your opinion/suggestions if it's worth it to bite the bullet and go with NB4?
@@TamTPSC Well, it depends if you will take it to race or just driving for fun. If you will take it to do some racing then NB4 will be worth the investment. Otherwise, MT12 4-in-1 Multiprotocol will be fine and has all the adjustments you'll ever want.
I knew it was only a matter of time before a surface radio with multi protocol would be released, and this radio not only has that, but way more features, and it also looks pretty sweet! This definitely seems like solid step on the path to the perfect radio! Nice review too. 👍 Just one little thing though, the pronunciation of "menu" . You said "men oo" (or men eww), it is supposed to be pronounced "men you".
Great video. Thank you Beaver, From what I read, I probably made a mistake buying the 4in1 version because of the latency... I use to have Radiolink transmitter and I will probably use those receivers with the radiomaster transmitter. I wish I will not get too much latency, otherwise I gues sI will have to switch back to the radiolink transmitter. Did you have a chance to test the latency with some typical radiolink receiver, like the - and the 7 channel receiver? Thank you for your answer and for all you great videos
Thanks. I'll find a chance to test the Radiolink with telemetry in serial mode. As far as I notice, it's the same latency as a native Radiolink transmitter but I'll need to test it just to be sure. Still, this one offers way more customization than RC8X.
Unfortunately, the 4-in-1 does not contain ASF. As I mentioned at 9:06 you will need the old ASF module and hook it up then choose the PWM mode to operate the ASF receiver.
sorry if its sound dumb, but i really beginner in this field so the elrs version cant connect to another receiver like 4 in 1 version? am i right? or maybe elrs version can connect to another receiver but not as much as 4 in 1 version?
They can't "directly" connect to the protocols of other version. However there are modules that you can install on the transmitter. Look at 8:26 . If you get the ELRS version and want to use other receivers from Flysky, Radiolink, etc. You can install a multiprotocol module on the top. Vise versa, if you get the 4-in-1 and want to use ELRS receiver, you can install a ELRS module on it. Basically choose the version according to what you use the most. If you have a lot of old receivers and cars with all-in-one (eg. WLtoys, Mini-Z) just go with the 4-in-1. Then add a module if you need extra protocol(s) later.
This transmitter will work with 2 in 1 esc receiver in WLtoys k9x9 series? Can you make a video of the transmitter binding with that car and other similar style 2in1’s?
Yes, it works with WLtoys K9x9 and 284xxx. The 4-in-1 multiprotocol will work directly, the ELRS will need a multiprotocol module. I'll make a video or 2 because there's one for the old K9x9 and one for the new 284x series.
Anything that can't be programmed via S.BUS is OK. Power HD also makes really good gyros. The Power HD G1 has very good noise and vibration filtering that I don't see the wheel shake on RWD drift so it should be good for keeping the car in straight line too.
Hi, just wanna ask what would you recommend for a crawler like me for MT12 would it be the ELRS or 4-in-1, i would like to re-use my spektrum dsm2 receivers if possible?
DSM2 surface is still not available on 4-in-1, only DSMR at the moment. So I think ELRS would be better because it'll give you more performance and range.
No, please don't! Rocket 18A (sensorless version) is one of the worst you can get. There's DasMikro V3 and PN Racing that are around the same price and way better than Rocket 18A.
For pistol grip transmitter RadioMaster MT12 is the only choice. If you are OK with stick radio then RadioMaster TX16S, in my opinion, is the best because of the big touch screen.
@@BeaversHobby Radiolink RC6GS has port for elrs module or RC8X also better port for elrs module the radiomaster built in elrs module is a joke 600-700m and you need to buy a better module for longer range so the price is radiomaster is high not worth it overall
@@PoloHungary When you run it on PPM it's the same port on both RC6GS and 8X so there's no difference in the connection. If you need more advanced adjustment the 8X is obviously better. You run elrs for range, I assume?
@@PoloHungary To be honest I'm not so sure RC6GS would work with ELRS module because it only output PPM from the trainer jack. If the module can work off PPM alone then it'll work. If it needs full crossfire system then I'm afraid it won't work.
Been using edge tx and ELRs on my drones for years. So excited to get it for my 1/28th cars.
Scale fpv plane guy here - this controller brought me back to ground vehicles - I can't wait to make some scale fpv racing videos - Great video!
Great video Beaver! I watched the whole thing ;)
Epilogue!!! All true!
They now have a gyro dial like you describe that goes in expansion bay
may we have the link pls?
Great video, thanks Beaver!
Great review, what's your preferred controller now is it this one or the nb4.
I'm deciding between these 2 but nb4 gonna be annoying to change out my current dumborc receivers which is on multiple of my RTRs cars.
If you already have a lot of cars with receivers that are compatible with Multiprotocol then MT12 is a really good choice. The OS might be difficult to operate at first but you'll get used to it.
Personally I prefer NB4 but changing the receivers for the entire fleet is a complete nightmare and the cost will be way too expensive.
@BeaversHobby I've been checking and researching the prices of both systems all in prices (all cars on board) if I were to shift to either mt12 or nb4 system.
NB4 system is around x2 the cost. Can i ask for your opinion/suggestions if it's worth it to bite the bullet and go with NB4?
@@TamTPSC Well, it depends if you will take it to race or just driving for fun. If you will take it to do some racing then NB4 will be worth the investment. Otherwise, MT12 4-in-1 Multiprotocol will be fine and has all the adjustments you'll ever want.
@@BeaversHobby Thanks Vmuch brother.
@@TamTPSC My pleasure.
I knew it was only a matter of time before a surface radio with multi protocol would be released, and this radio not only has that, but way more features, and it also looks pretty sweet! This definitely seems like solid step on the path to the perfect radio!
Nice review too. 👍
Just one little thing though, the pronunciation of "menu" .
You said "men oo" (or men eww), it is supposed to be pronounced "men you".
Hi beaver will you be reviewing the new onisiki Kodoma 1/24-1/28 drift car? Would love to see a video on it!
Will take a look into it and see if I can get one.
Great video. Thank you Beaver, From what I read, I probably made a mistake buying the 4in1 version because of the latency... I use to have Radiolink transmitter and I will probably use those receivers with the radiomaster transmitter. I wish I will not get too much latency, otherwise I gues sI will have to switch back to the radiolink transmitter. Did you have a chance to test the latency with some typical radiolink receiver, like the - and the 7 channel receiver? Thank you for your answer and for all you great videos
Thanks. I'll find a chance to test the Radiolink with telemetry in serial mode. As far as I notice, it's the same latency as a native Radiolink transmitter but I'll need to test it just to be sure. Still, this one offers way more customization than RC8X.
if you want to go elrs, you can always add a module... the one from jumper brand is cheap.
What the protocol used in the 4 in 1 to connect a Ko Propo ASF receiver?
Unfortunately, the 4-in-1 does not contain ASF. As I mentioned at 9:06 you will need the old ASF module and hook it up then choose the PWM mode to operate the ASF receiver.
sorry if its sound dumb, but i really beginner in this field
so the elrs version cant connect to another receiver like 4 in 1 version?
am i right? or maybe elrs version can connect to another receiver but not as much as 4 in 1 version?
They can't "directly" connect to the protocols of other version. However there are modules that you can install on the transmitter. Look at 8:26 .
If you get the ELRS version and want to use other receivers from Flysky, Radiolink, etc. You can install a multiprotocol module on the top.
Vise versa, if you get the 4-in-1 and want to use ELRS receiver, you can install a ELRS module on it.
Basically choose the version according to what you use the most. If you have a lot of old receivers and cars with all-in-one (eg. WLtoys, Mini-Z) just go with the 4-in-1. Then add a module if you need extra protocol(s) later.
This transmitter will work with 2 in 1 esc receiver in WLtoys k9x9 series? Can you make a video of the transmitter binding with that car and other similar style 2in1’s?
Yes, it works with WLtoys K9x9 and 284xxx. The 4-in-1 multiprotocol will work directly, the ELRS will need a multiprotocol module. I'll make a video or 2 because there's one for the old K9x9 and one for the new 284x series.
Thank you. Just watched the video.
trying to find a stabilization gyro for speedrunning compatible with elrs mt 12
Anything that can't be programmed via S.BUS is OK. Power HD also makes really good gyros. The Power HD G1 has very good noise and vibration filtering that I don't see the wheel shake on RWD drift so it should be good for keeping the car in straight line too.
Thank you so much for your input
Hi, just wanna ask what would you recommend for a crawler like me for MT12 would it be the ELRS or 4-in-1, i would like to re-use my spektrum dsm2 receivers if possible?
DSM2 surface is still not available on 4-in-1, only DSMR at the moment. So I think ELRS would be better because it'll give you more performance and range.
@@BeaversHobby thanks for the reply.. more power to your channel.
@@leomarloedicang419 My pleasure.
Hi, is the Surpass Hobby ESC, mini rocket 18A correct and reliable? Is there a better equivalent price? Thank you in advance for your help.
No, please don't! Rocket 18A (sensorless version) is one of the worst you can get. There's DasMikro V3 and PN Racing that are around the same price and way better than Rocket 18A.
@@BeaversHobby Great, thank you.
Should I be careful of the heat ?
@@frkial8649 Don't worry about the heat on the ESC. Some motors heat up a bit but it's nothing dangerous.
Hi what the best elrs controller now?
For pistol grip transmitter RadioMaster MT12 is the only choice. If you are OK with stick radio then RadioMaster TX16S, in my opinion, is the best because of the big touch screen.
@@BeaversHobby Radiolink RC6GS has port for elrs module or RC8X also better port for elrs module the radiomaster built in elrs module is a joke 600-700m and you need to buy a better module for longer range so the price is radiomaster is high not worth it overall
@@PoloHungary When you run it on PPM it's the same port on both RC6GS and 8X so there's no difference in the connection. If you need more advanced adjustment the 8X is obviously better. You run elrs for range, I assume?
@@PoloHungary To be honest I'm not so sure RC6GS would work with ELRS module because it only output PPM from the trainer jack. If the module can work off PPM alone then it'll work. If it needs full crossfire system then I'm afraid it won't work.
Computer voice with a lisp??😂😂
as all opentx/edgetx radios, it just plays wav files from the microSD card