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SAUCONY TRIUMPH 21 REVIEW - THE LIGHTEST MAX CUSHION SHOE IN 2023? - EDDBUD
An initial review of the new SAUCONY TRIUMPH 21, a brand new version of the super cushioned rotation shoe for longer distances, PWRRUN+ in the midsole and insole, this time with a much more breathable design and better fitting upper.
A max cushioned shoe with 44mm of stack in my uk 11 / us 12 makes for a great shoe for those longer training runs. Some super grip on the improved outsole too.
This is a shoe sent to me from SAUCONY for review, but they are not paying me to making this video nor will they be watching my video or vetting my views before my valued viewers get to see it.
I comment on the upper, midsole and outsole after my initial runs.
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just picked up a pair for $79 brand new from Super Runner's Shop in August 2024. thanks for the review Edd
Loving Saucony shoes at the moment. Them and Puma are my go to
❤ 100% same
I may have stocked up on some 17s back in the day, on sale of course. Maybe still putting miles on a pair today! Crazy durable outsole and yeah, was super cush. Loved them for long winter runs. Will be interesting when I finally upgrade. At least 500 miles to go!
I fondly remember the 17. Bought it just before the 2020 lockdown. My daughter helped me make that video and it’s good to remember where I’ve come from and how I got here. Thanks for watching 👍🏼👊
Great review Ed and glad you finally got round to the Triumph which really has evolved in the last 2 models. I’ve got 400 miles in my 19’s and still tons left in them, about 200 in my first pair of 20’s ( including Chicago marathon) and just picked up another discounted pair for stock. For me the Triumph is as close as I’m going to get to the perfect running shoe. The 21 doesn’t look to have enough updates to warrant a purchase tho loved the colourway of yours. Great work thanks. 👍
I enjoying being part of the triumph love!
Hi Edd, belated congrats on reaching 40k🎉 Also loving the white and green colour way on the Triumph
Much appreciated 👍🏼
This is the first review of Triumph 21 that I've seen -- good job being in front of the pack! I just got my Triumph 20 at 50% off from Running Warehouse last week. Tried them on for the first time yesterday and then wore it for a road/trail half marathon today. I enjoyed the ride, so I decided to buy another Saucony right after the race (Tempus this time) 😇
I love the Triumph 20 but hate the TEMPUS. It's hard and narrow..
I just realised I’m the first. Weird! I got the shoe rather recently and it’s not embargoed or anything. Very enjoyable.
Really like the Tempus, but I can see how it might be marmite. It's definitely a support shoe intended to go faster in, rather than a cushioned one. I like it because it is relatively lightweight.
Do you know when the Tempus 2 will be released?? Been debating the Triumph or the Tempus.
@@vtru2743 no idea. Maybe never.. It's a hard narrow shoe. Ride feels like Ride 15.. Become OK at Tempo speed.. If you want hard stable narrow buy the Ride 🙄
The frequency of making new videos! You 're a workhorse mate!👋💪
When you love doing it the process is by far more enjoyable. 👍🏼👊
Pleased you've got this shoe. I picked up the 20s after the More v4 crippled me. 250 miles plus on them and another pair in the wardrobe. Soft, cushioned, bit of bounce, great for lots of varying runs. Will pick up 21s when my pairs of 20s are dead. Look forward to you 100 mile review.
I was really surprised by the low weight and exciting cushion
I love my triumph 20, such a great shoe. Long runs feel like popping to the shops really, nice pacing as well.
The 21 looks great, in that color as well. It’s weird they got rid of the elastic pull tab that hides away when not in use on the 20, in favor of that traditional one on the 21. I’m not using it, but It’s a better implementation over this new one I think.
Looking forward to seeing how this compares to the Magnify Nitro, was waiting for them to drop in July, this Saucony might throw that 😊👍🏻
Will be a tight comparison. Down to preference I think.
@@EDDBUD yeah, I’ve recently got a few Puma in my rotation, Deviate Nitro 2 and the Velocity Nitro 2, saw the Magnify as being the perfect compliment for those long days, but that 21 really does look and sound good, reckon it’ll hinge on the nuance of fit and feel 😊
What a good looking colorway.
Yes it hits the foam hue high points!
Love the T20 (despite a shallow heel). It's a great daily trainer for "larger runners."
Didn’t find it too shallow in the heel. The Pegasus is very low profile in comparison.
Anything better than the 18, those are way way low for me
@@EDDBUD - thank you for your response. I haven't heard anyone else have this issue with the T20 other than myself and I've had bad heel slip in every version of the Pegasus I've tried so must just be the shape of my heel.
I also used the Triumph 17 and absolutely loved it. so I purchased the Triumph 20. and I was disappointed because of feeling like burn in the left forfoot (which I had also in the speed 2 but in a way smaller amount). Might have been a reaction of sock and insole material... so I'm now very sceptic on more Saucony purchases...
Had the same burning feeling on my 19s the first few days. Then it went away. I thought at that time it was because I was very tired or something but now, hearing your experience, it makes me think I wasn't crazy
Ciao Ed. Grazie per la recensione. La versione 20° sono scarpe favolose per un normale corridore che non vuole essere un Kiptum 😅. Comprate e usate per la maratona di Milano senza mai averle provate..... Verdetto? Favolose.👍 Veloci, con sostegno e protezione. Le 21? Come si vede hanno un altro colore ma sono altrettanto buone.. Go go Ed
It’s a really nice shoe. Keen to test it more in the coming weeks.
Mmmmmm saucony has me covered from the pros for races the speeds for training every pace and miles and now the triumph for cruising recovery and longer relaxing jaunts
Yeah, agreed. I guess if you could only have one brand for all your different runs Saucony might win the day for a lot of folks. Works for me too.
Some top shoes. The speed 1 though still is my fav!
@@organiclaughter although I do like a Reebok now n then for gym etc and trails lower stack ground feel
That's a beautiful colourway, right there
😍
“Shoe Friend” - EddBud ‘23
I ran my first 10k in the Takumi Sen 9. The upper is improved over the TS8. The new tongue is especially effective in lockdown and protection. It’s a worthy successor.
✌🏽💙👟
May have to get one now! My original order got lost
@@EDDBUD ‘sorry to learn your order was lost.
I don’t want to write too much in case you review them, but only the 2-3 things I felt would be acceptable tinkering for Team adizero were touched. I definitely expect 400k again, but now I know I can go beyond that.
✌🏽💙👟
I think for me one negative is the aggressive drop that the shoe has maybe 8mm would have been best since walking in it feels a bit weird to me. I weigh 267 lbs and run 3-5 miles a day but when I go to walk it feels very bouncy but it feels better as a running shoe to me.
It’s one you need to think about your form a little.
Great review until...7:20 ! We need all the John Wick movies we can get..anyway...Looking foward to the Saucony 21!
The first one was good. The others are growing a bit much.
Best shoes I ever had 🤩
The triumph is very well regarded.
I am looking for a new marathon block shoe friend. Maybe this, maybe the next Glideride? Who knows!
Could be a good long run facilitator
Thanks a lot Ed! How do you see them again the More V4?
Haven’t tried that one Ben
Ive always been partial to a bit of gusseting around the tongue.
A guilty pleasure.
Bought the Triumph 20 on sale lately, but it's causing pain in my ankle, too much pronation on my left foot in these shoes. Having no problems in Ride 15, Puma Deviate Nitro 2... Sadly Triumph aren't working for me.
Sounds like its the drop and foam aren't working for you
I just don‘t like the looks and the design of Saucony shoes at all (personal preference).
Ugly shoes on my feet are a no-go, that is why I am sticking to Puma, that design is on point. 👌
Is the mid foot snug? cause im on the verge of a wide and a regular and I dont know what to get
Not that present I. The arch in fairness
i hear it i hear it i hear it!
Do you see do you see so you see? “Mars” 🤣👍🏼
Johnson Wick chapter 5, The high midsole
00:31 thank you😄
My pleasure!
44mm in the heel. How would you compare it to the bouncy Puma midsole? Also if you were to spend an entire day travelking with this shoe, how would you find this?
These shoes are super for all day distancing, walking and forgiving feel. The air jordan 11 on foot today and actually left me wanting something more firm!
@@EDDBUD 👌🙏
Is it already available on the website? What’s the price for it in US?
Not out yet in Europe I think.
How does the underfoot feel compare to the foreverrun? 👍
The FR is a bit more bouncy and has those stability hints
Maybe you should launch Earth Credits as a currency? Just make sure you find a financial advisor who doesn't go out for an emperor burger, but comes back with a cheese burger. 🍔
Fancy a steak meal right now.
The drop kills it for me! 5-6mm would be enough
It’s fine really. Doesn’t take much getting used to.
Do you think the Triumph 21 is wider than the Triumph 20?
No idea, i havent tried out the triumph 20 so cant comment
Need links to these tunes, dude 👍
Will add them into description when I can
If you don't untie your shoes, you're a future serial killer.
🤣
Hi Ed what is the difference from the 20
New upper, by all accounts.
Thanks Ed love the 20
@@davidpearson6011 I can see why. It’s a lovely ride. 10 miles out the box!
20 celcius I'll be freezing here in Malaysia😂
🔥☀️
Fits same as nike or runs long?
Yeah it’s about the same as a Nike fit.
Yo
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I hated the triumph 19
Why did it not work for you?
@@EDDBUD the upper was too hot and felt like a shoe from the 90s.
@@festekj Much lighter in the upper now. Massive change
Nice review Edd. I just bought the Saucony Triumph 20 late last week on sale. I've got every Triumph since the 17 and enjoy running in them. Never had an issue with them and this latest one looks the part too. The Tempus is an excellent shoe too and you can pick it up in Australia for a crazy $130 (68 pounds). That's excellent value. At present, Asics, Saucony and Puma are my go to brands for most shoes. I hope Saucony send you the Endorphin Elite so you can do a review of that one. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
This more breathable upper will do the business down the line.
Cant wait for the Tempus 2 to come out I know its a “speed” stability shoe but love it for a long run with those 2 foams combining
I have the Triumph 20. It's amazing.
I have a pair aswell, get the 21 when they wear out!!! They are so much better!
@@gottide Really? There is a difference between the 20 and 21? I thought just some small upper change?
The triumph 20 is one of my favorite shoes this year. It’s a great shoe for daily and recovery runs.
Could be a good update for you if you like the v20.
@@EDDBUD best update with the triumph 21 will be the price drop on the 20 🙃
Closing in on 1000km in my triumph 20. They are holding up really well. Lots of life left in them
Now that’s some value.
Love the Triumph 20. Have done 600km in mine and they're as good new. Only gripe is the over-padded tongue, so this update is music to my ears!
Compared to the old triumph 17 it’s rather thin! Not all that plush these days.
I spoke with a Saucony rep a couple months back. He said the major changes are to the upper. I love the 20 and picked up another pair at half off from Saucony through their Memorial Day deal here in the U.S. good until Monday the 29th :)
I see they have a sale coming up. Holidays are top notch. Need a break 🤣👍🏼
I know they say it's just an upper update but man that new upper really makes the shoe look better over the 20
Yes it’s a smashing profile
I really liked the 19´s. They were cushioned but fairly responsive, i took them to a 28km race, 10ks and a sub 20 5k and did respond well in all distances... (I´m a tall guy, over 6´3")
Recently picked up the saucony tempus...maybe get this one as well as looks like it will double as casual and gym shoe on top of running. And sorry Ed, I don't undo the laces in my shoes if I don't have to 😂
Noooooo! (In the style of newly Darth Vader Anakin ) 🤣👍🏼
My shoe rotation consists of the Endorphin Pro 3, Endorphin Speed 3 and Triumph 20 I absolutely love the Triumph 20 for my Z2 runs and a really comfortable shoe so I’m guessing the 21 will be much the same 🤓👍 Great review Ed
Glad the rotation is working well with this selection. The 21 is great for those steady miles
Looks great! Saucony are always good quality shoes and the Triumph always comes in Wide fit as well. This is definitely something I’m interested in.
Top notch quality on these.
“Do you hear it, do you hear it?”
I may of urinated a little bit at this. Unnecessarily.
Mars will always be my favourite
I am going to get a pair of these Triumph 21s..... I would recommend the Nike Storm running bucket hat with 360 degree sun coverage.
I tend to head out very early to avoid the heat. But a bucket hat will match my son as he loves his!
@@EDDBUD Good ear and neck coverage but more elegant than a cap with neck cape.
Ah Edd this initial review couldn't have come in at a better time. 🎉
I am really intrigued to hear your comparisons and future use cases for this one.
Looking for a cushioned but solid daily/long run shoe coming from thr glory Ultraboost days.
Would you agree that this shoe is what the Ultraboost lineup should be like? 🤓
More comparisons coming up. Yes on the “what should have been the ultraboost” vibes.
Hi ed, thanks for the review! Once you've reached the 100 miled, please give us a 3 way shoot out between this, magnify and nimbus. I find the triumph 20 to be a very lively shoe, instead of a recovery day shoe, can't help but run fast in the shoe. 😂
Not sure I found it fast. Maybe too long in the low drop stuff recently. 🤣👍🏼
I agree. It can move quickly without much effort but also cruise.. A Unicorn shoe for me 👍
@@philbrown9901 that’s my experience with the 20 as well. Really plush and comfortable on long and recovery runs but definitely a bit of extra pop when I pick up the pace a bit.
I LOVE my Triumph 20, especially since the change from the 19, which i also have, was quite significant. I think it's a criminally underrated shoe that can do easy days and pick up the pace a bit too. Soft, responsive with appropriate padding but not too much. 21 seems to be a nice upgrade but not as significant as the one from the previous generation.
Triumph 20 one of the shoes out there. Glad 21 is just a minor update with the upper.
Yeah it appears a smaller update. But for me it’s a great new one! 🥈
Sometimes I wake up at night hearing 'Midsole Now'
It’s never far from my thoughts either.
$160??? This people are laughing all the way to the bank at those paying that kind of money for running shoes. What a scam.
This isn’t even that much compared to some other models
It’s simple, if you cant afford it then dont buy it.
got one pair for 84€ Yesterday.
You only need to wait a little time for bargains
Midsole now
🥉
I really like this color💥
Lovely colour way.
I got the run shield version but that new knit upper looks delicious. Dunno if this or that new puma behind you is gonna be my next purchase. 🤔
I like it. “Delicious” now that’s a word I need to get into a video.
Just come back to this video after my first run in my Speed 4s Ed. Strange I know, but after last nights run I feel the shoes are going to fill each other’s roles for me. I found the speed 4s a bit too flexible and found I had to really literally keep my foot down to sustain a decent pace. I have been spoilt recently as I have been using Superblasts for my easy and moderate runs, I find if you back off in them you still keep a decent pace, but the speed 4s lose any momentum really quickly.
I do think I need to run in ‘not so fast’ shoes in my training a bit more I was hoping the Speed 4s could help my Takumi sen 8s in the faster tempo zone, but they aren’t even anywhere near capable of the same speeds, I think they are going to drop even below the Triumph 21s for easier runs and not even for long runs.
Love the new upper and that white and Army green colorway is beautiful.
Perfect design on the colours.
I think Triumph 20/21 is a good recovery day/slow long run shoe partner if you have Endorphin Speed and Pro. I think it fits better than Endorphin Shift.
Ive got a pair of 18s that refuse to die, much to my frustration, cuz I really dislike the weight of it >
Looking at these to replace my aging Glideride 3's 👌🏻
Ordered today, arriving tomorrow 💪🏻
Like I need another shoe...BAH! Who CARES?!?
Many a shoe makes for many smiles.
Of course you need another pair.
No one here *needs* another shoe 😂
@@reselvski of course we do. Lol
@@reselvski you’re right. But no. We do.
Freat that its widerr toe box
pls review asics evoride speed..plssss
Hey had a question brother. With the Triumph 20, I had a lot of heel instability, especially on the right foot - ended up rolling my ankle and I ended up donating the shoe. I wanted to like it but I could not deal with the issue, which I found strange because I'm usually alright with neutral shoes. Anyway, with the Triumph 21, are there changes in the heel area? If not, I will probably look into a different Saucony model. I've heard the Saucony Tempus is basically a more stable version of the triumph and I've heard a lot of good things. Could you let me know what you think? Thanks man.
Hey there. Didn’t try the 20. But from what I hear it’s the same midsole so it may be took close to the 20 for you
Not much different from the Triumph 20.......they look quite similar too .....apart from the suede elements and minor changes to the upper..... actually the pull tabs on the 20 makes them look better. Same outsole too.
Yes it’s a small update but I haven’t tried that one so for me it’s a new shoe
20C? Well let me tell you….oh right 🤣
I have run in Triumphs since the version before the 17, the Everrun 5? Anyway my fav has been the 19. Just the right amount of Cush and built like a tank. 30k distance is no problem and Can take them up to 4:30 per km easy if not paying attention. I find the 20 a very comfy shoe. Love the bounce. But some may find the softness of the midsole along with the stack in the heel to be a touch unstable.
The balance here is good. I was amazed how light they are considering the stack.
I'm a big saucony fan! I have both endorphin speed and pro. No complaints whatsoever only praise. But I didn't get the chance to try out the triumph 20. I never found my size on them.
Luckily I got to purchase them for my 2 kids. They've started to run and joins short 5k fun runs.
Great video once again edd. Looking forward on trying these.
Hope these work out for you, they just released here in the uk.
Hi eddbud 👊 , my triumph 20 still cruising wow what a shoe 💪 as for the 21 idk want to try magnify 2 plus I scored big time this week and got adidas prime x strung ( the blue pink pair ) brand new for only $220 aud 😃😃😃 so I'll have nimbus 25 , triumph 20 and prime x strung for 🤤🤤 max cush 💪😃
That primex is awesome. Yet it’s quite pricey at retail. Glad you got a good deal.
I have been wearing the ISO TRIUMPH for 10 years and they were one of the most comfortable sneakers in my life. After chatting with an expert on the official website, they recommended me to buy the SAUCONY 20, promising the same level of softness and comfort, especially important for me was the level around the heel. However, after I received them, I was disappointed. First of all, there is much less cushioning material around the heel. You can see that there are two seams running in the heel area of the sneakers, these seams rub against the heel quite significantly, they are very hard. Further, when the toe fully steps down, a dent forms on the sneaker around the big toe and due to this dent, the inner material, which is on the side of the big toe, starts to press down. Overall, I don't know about others, but I am disappointed and it's likely I'll have to return the sneakers.
I would assume the 20 is vastly different to that older model
Here in my country Saucony is still a noobie ... all other USA Shoe brands are here for decades and decades already. I have seem the other day a very expensive Triumph 19 for sale ... the Triumph 20 was imported and costed the same of two Invincible 3s or two and a half NB More V4 !
I loved that launch color way, by the way. White with green !
My word. Import prices are not nice at all
Ed, I need a new daily trainer soon. Been running in the NB 1080 v11 but want to try something new. Already had the Novablast 3, Cloudmonster and Velocity Nitro 2 and not really got on with them. Any recommendations?
For the price the velocity nitro 2 is darn good
yeah, I don't understand heel loops, either. They really don't help a bit putting shoes on, cuz you're already pushing the heel counter down and the loop can't pull it far enough out of the way...unless you're wearing 3 sizes too big.
Untie, retie. Its rather easy :)
I am going to buy the 20 or 21. I used the Triumph 18 in a 50 K mixed surface ultra race last Saturday. About same setup as newer model, but different midsole material. But worked very well. I chose it ahead of Speedgoat and Ultraglide. I do think the Triumph is an alternative for mixed surface ultras where shoes like Endorphine Speed or carbonplates get to unstable.
The outsole is full of grip, very good update from the speed3/pro3 which has lower depth rubber.
Hey edd. I know you kind of turned away from the NB rebel v3 a while back, but I think you might want to give them a try. Especially since you can find them at discount price. Very squishy. I use them for recovery runs and just to walk in, because they are so squishy.
I liked the squashy vibes on the v2. But it was invincible like squash and only worked for me on easier efforts.
Went into fleet feet looking for a trainer for my first marathon. Had run in Homs Clifton’s and Brooks ghosts before and they always felt too heavy. The triumph 21s had apparently just been offloaded form the truck and they were starting to put them out. So far can’t complain. I think it’ll be a great first marathon trainer for me!
Enjoy! Love that shoe. Got a bit of everything in there
Nice one Edd, first review of the 21 I’ve seen. I have a pair of the 20’s and Endorphin Speed 3’s, in fact they’re all I’m running in at the moment, really like them both. This looks to be a little more stripped back than the 20 which is really plush, especially in the heel and tongue. Will definitely look at picking this up later in the year.
Compared to some other max cushioned models I’m very impressed. Works a bit better for my puny frame. 🤣👍🏼
This shoe looks lush! A great colour way too. A sort of Jaguar car equivalent? Any additional thoughts on differences with the Invincible 3? Could there be a case for owning both? Thanks as always.
Some shoes are somewhat boat like it my size. This one isn’t one of those!
Loving the triumph 20 at the min, I can pick up the pace during daily trading and long runs. A nice Aero peppermint colourway 😊.
The 20 feel light in hand, but my Uk 9 is just under 300g.
You have it right on the colourway!
Hmmm looks like a pegasus 39/40 update. Have a look at the Hoka Transport X, very interesting daily run (yet carbon plated) shoe
Will check out the Hoka
Awesome review Edd! Happy to hear they keep the infamous garden centre smell, best smell in the game i think(what do you reckon). That is a great Looking shoe and colorway aswell:)
Heaven knows why it smells that way 🤣
I have nimbus25,nb v4 and Saucony triumph 20, triumph hold my feet very well and didn't fell hurt that incredible shoe
Yes the Saucony is my preference over the nimbus. More nimble and soft
For some reason, I always got left-ankle pain in the T20's.
In the T21's that issue is completely gone.
Must be the upper slight redesign.
Im gonna made my temp rant the opposite this time. Here in the coast of México at 16°C we run with sweaters and gloves 😅😅
Gloves! I would love that temp!
price aside, triumph 21 or superblast for 20mi long run with some marathon pace in the middle?
Superblast probably more fun to do that. The triumph is cushioned yes but the Superblast is quite the upgrade.
Where I live 20 c. Is spectacular. Yesterday we had snow showers in Tromsø 🇳🇴🤭🤣🤣
There we go! Here it’s now 10am and 19c. Hard times for runners!
Ed is nice shoe but my experience with Saucony shoes is that many of their shoes, slip on any surfacea and jace terrbe durability sine of them show daahe in 2 or 3 runs!
The rubber is updated here. It’s more sticky and grippy like the Puma stuff
Looks great for us wide feet crew. Now it’s light and I like cushioning I wonder if as versatile as the Saucony Ride as heard a few people say can be good at steadier paces?
So many wide shoes are too heavy. This one bucks the trend
I dont understand why Saucony eschewed the Triumph outsole on the Tempus or the Speed in favor of the crummy outsole these shoes have.
The speed 3 outsole is poor. This is much better.
I’ll take 1 more John Wick film if you take back 3 Fast and Furious films…
🤣👍🏼
wish the upper would have been like this on the 20. didn't like the slicky heel material either.
It’s a nice option even casually.