Actually Ardyn wanted not only to ruin the Lucis Caelum blood by defeating Noctis, but he also wanted to die since he became immortal and the Starscourge was consuming him. He not only got betrayed by the Gods, but also lost the love of his life who got killed by his brother in front of him (All planned by Bahamut). So he is an immortal being who wanted to do all the good things to the world by curing people but because of fate, the gods decided to banish him on a certain way. He also got what he wanted in the end. He finally ascended and died and also got the Lucis royal blood to perish at the end. He's got one of the coolest story in FF games as he's not the "I want to destroy everything and become a God!" thing
Kefka. Easy. Answered it for you. He's the best. 1-3 were a little underpar. Emperor was cheesy. Cloud of Dar... who cares. 4 was a fakeout. 5 is just silly "I'm evil." 7 not even the real bad guy. Something for girls and gay guys to obsess over. 8 Nah. 9 Kuja is actually pretty decent. Props to thong boy. X Damn...if Jecht is considered the bad guy then he's up there too. 11/14 Skipping. Not played. 12... beautiful and wonderful game but all characters are lacking and that includes the villain. 13 Don't care. The entire game is a villain for sucking. 15 Ardyn is another that was done well and really interesting.
Kefka is the best but he is severely held back by the cast. They loosely hold together the opposition to his villain theme (which was not *well* established) but he himself carries the villainy magic well enough on his own. Ultimecia got screwed because she has one of the absolute best themes but just like Kefka, it wasn't apparent until way late in the game. Unlike Kefka, she doesn't have much involvement and tie ins with the cast but what she has that Kefka doesn't is that her motivations are very well tied with the theme of the game. Since the video didn't point it out I will. Kefka himself had a general existential crisis but Ultimecia had something more specific. She was actually terrified that she was forgetting things about her life and she specifically treasured her memories. The whole game of FF8 subtly and not-so-subtly goes over the passage of time, loss of past joys and the hardship of entering new sections of your life. Ultimecia, in this sense, is extremely relatable. I think they made Kuja more closely resemble the bad guy from blade runner in this sense but it is clear that Ultimecia reflected one of his last sentences much more specifically. The line he says when he talks about some of his fantastic moments in life. "All those moments....they'll be gone... like tears in the rain." So yeah I agree with you that Ultimecia is nahh, especially when she was like the FF2 villain, but I thought someone in the comments had to actually mention her motivation. The video didn't.
It’s a shame the four arch fiends in IV couldn’t be included, since Rubicante is an infinitely better antagonist than the actual main antagonists of that game.
14:18 Ok now you`ve convinced me that you didn`t pay much attention. Kefka didn`t do it for revenge of his suffering. He did it because- 1: For the LOLs 2: Because he thinks everything`s existence is worthless. Why cling to life when you know you`re gonna die someday? Why try getting something if you know it`s gonna be lost someday? Why care about anything if its not going to be there forever? Everything is transitory, so why bother with trying to not keep it transitory? He thought that nothingness was better than everyone being madmen crazily struggling for stupid, worthless things that won`t be there after a while. Our characters experienced loss themselves, and what does Kefka have to say about it? It doesn`t matter! He says it was impossible to prevent those losses so it was stupid of them to even care about the things/people the lost, then get sad & start weeping when they lost em! That's the point of Kefka- ``Why do you build, knowing destruction is inevitable? why do you yearn for life, knowing all things must die? Knowing that none of it will have meant anything once you do? Life... Dreams... Hope... where do they come from... and where are they headed? these things... I`m going to Destroy!`` And he does all of it in the most horrible ways possible, while enjoying with a demonic laughter, enjoying the music of hundreds screaming in unison,.
Something about Seymour, he met Yunalesca and learned the truth from her. If you listen to their dialogue, what Seymour says is almost word for word what Yunalesca says. Death is Spira's only true liberation. It wasn't just cause of a shit upbringing, but more likely what Yunalesca revealed to him.
@Papi Greed I don't know if you've ever played the game. Yunalesca is a holy figure in FFX. It would be like if Jesus or Mohammed or Buddha or whoever revealed the truth of the universe to you. That's basically what happened to Seymour.
Dude.... Kefka is a Court Jester or Fool.. the concept of a clown descends from that. The Kings Fool often was a very very brilliant person from within the kingdom as the fool was one of the only people who could theoretically criticize the king to his face. Were he wrong... we all "jape at the fool for being a fool". Part of the job was the skill in delivery... the Fool absolutely could point out to the king when he himself was being absurd though and though the room would laugh it off the king often would take the feedback under advisement. Makes a little more sense why a fallen scientist in close proximity to the king was dressed so now right? Kefka used his position to get a front row seat to the kingdom and struck in the singular moment where the reigns of power were up for grabs for any man present.
Yu Yevon is supposed to look like a Parasite like a Tick by how Yu Yevon looks like he was a Summoner but then dies and turns into this and Yevons Conscience is dead
Of the games I've played - Golbez is a pretty rad character, certainly one of the more interesting characters in IV, especially in the wake of Dissidia and the After Years. I do think Zemus is pretty meh though. He comes out of nowhere only mentioned right near the end (Cloud of Darkness and Necron I kinda forgive because they were never meant to be main villains, just final bosses), and anything interesting about his story and lore would just be done a lot better with Garland in FFIX. Exdeath I adore - I know he's not the most deep or complex but like you said, FFV is more fun than deep or interesting, and in that respect I love this big doofus, especially in places like Dissidia or the GBA translation. I love his hamminess, I love his unholy sexual longing for the void, I love how he manages to be menacing but also kinda laughable villain. I feel 'TURTLE!' and 'You'll find no such tasty diversions in the afterlife' are some of the best villain lines ever written. Kefka I'm kinda meh about - he's not especially interesting, he never really comes across as *that* threatening given the entire first half of the game is just you one-upping and outsmarting/outmuscling him, and once you get the band back together and decide to actually try to take him on rather than just give and die, he falls pretty quickly. Yeah he shakes the world up pretty bad (I never really agreed he fully destroyed it) but the game ends on a hopeful note and really a ton of villains for achieve their goals if only temporarily (Kefka wins for a while, but so do Exdeath, Golbez, Kuja, and from what I've heard Ardyn and Caius do too). Sephiroth set the gold standard for edgy anime villains. He's got the backstory and interesting lore and sends a powerful message about the dangers of human experiments and growing corporations going too far. He does lose a fair few points though for being really one of the few villains to not really do any long lasting damage and never actually achieves his goals. Kuja is I'd argue the most interesting villain, and one of my favourites. I love how he's the antithesis of the games main message about making the most of life and what it means to live, I love how he presents himself as just a narcissistic generic villain that is slowly revealed to have more and more depth and I love how even though he appears as just a vain, effeminate fop he fucks shit up, ruins a lot of lives and causes a shitton of grief. He's manages to be threatening despite his look and demeanour (no easy task), he's interesting, he's dangerous, he's layered, and as much as he probably hates it, he's human. I love this bitch. X I do think struggles with keeping one consistent villain. Seymour I like as a villain, he's got a great creepy, pedophilic voice, everything about him just radiates 'nope' energy and everytime he shows up you just want to punch him, which I think makes a great villain. I just wish he didn't become a completely irrelevant, pointless, less of a villain and more an annoyance halfway through. Jecht has potential but the game never really presents him as 'the main villain'. And Yu Yevon is just a more convoluted, more underwhelming, very lackluster version of Zemus (already a pretty meh villain). From what I've heard Ardyn and Caius are pretty rad, Dissidia makes Garland and the Emperor super enjoyable and endearing (and in Garland's case even kinda interesting and deep) but don't know about their original games, haven't played III so I can't speak for Xande (though CoD I just find too silly design wise and too boring personality wise to get behind).
You are far too kind! But, thank you for the kind words. While I wish my stuff got more views, I'm somewhat fine as long as people just like what they see!
Anyone else kinda feels that Sephiroth's motivation is just whack? Dude is just delusional and the way he comes his conclusion is just weird. Yea he could've been a monster but he ain't. He had his own free will. And instead of targeting his anger and hatred at the company that made him, he aimed the rest of the world..? Not a bad story sure, but its overrated imo.. just me? Ok..
I initially thought his motivation was fucking stupid too, but I also think that he come to the conclusions he did because he was so physically close to Jenova at that time, and considering we know that she can manipulate those with her cells, she possibly did that to Sephiroth, combining his emotional freak out with her motives. I also think that the fact that he’s treated like a celebrity up on high by almost everyone in the game before Nibelheim, with Cloud and President Shinra proving that, he probably developed a superiority complex that he felt was justified by the fact that his biological makeup was proven to be different from everyone else’s through the research he did. That interestingly parallels Cloud’s own development, as he developed a superiority complex as well as a child, but instead of it being because he was actually better than most people, it was out of his insecurities about being the exact opposite. That all said, I actually don’t think Sephiroth is that great of a character anyways, although how he antagonizes and is a foil to Cloud is brilliant. My favorite FF villain is Kuja by far.
Exdeath was one of the worst bad guys ever. He was basically a Saturday morning cartoon villain. He just wanted to destroy everything for no reason. He was maybe the lamest bad guy from the FF universe. The bad guy from FF V was a TREE for Christ sake. What a stupid idea! I know they were trying to make an environmental message, but come on! A tree for a bad guy? Give me a break. Kefka was the best FF villain ever.
Yea but he was a tree from a forest where humanity put all the bad shit. And then this one tree was like "Hey! Ima absorb all this bad shit cuz I'm in a bad forest." And that's why Exdeath wants to just destroy everything cause that's what you do when you're made out of nothing but bad since all bad things want to do is destroy. Duh
Kinda like how death incites emotional struggles. Not necessarily have to be death but when someone you cherished passed away you'd easily feel sad. Aerith's death is iconic and impactful not only to the characters but also to the players. It wouldn't have the same response if another thing besides death happened to her.
Imagine skipping the game that has the highest voted villain in the most recent character popularity poll
Actually Ardyn wanted not only to ruin the Lucis Caelum blood by defeating Noctis, but he also wanted to die since he became immortal and the Starscourge was consuming him. He not only got betrayed by the Gods, but also lost the love of his life who got killed by his brother in front of him (All planned by Bahamut). So he is an immortal being who wanted to do all the good things to the world by curing people but because of fate, the gods decided to banish him on a certain way. He also got what he wanted in the end. He finally ascended and died and also got the Lucis royal blood to perish at the end. He's got one of the coolest story in FF games as he's not the "I want to destroy everything and become a God!" thing
Kefka. Easy. Answered it for you. He's the best. 1-3 were a little underpar. Emperor was cheesy. Cloud of Dar... who cares. 4 was a fakeout. 5 is just silly "I'm evil." 7 not even the real bad guy. Something for girls and gay guys to obsess over. 8 Nah. 9 Kuja is actually pretty decent. Props to thong boy. X Damn...if Jecht is considered the bad guy then he's up there too. 11/14 Skipping. Not played. 12... beautiful and wonderful game but all characters are lacking and that includes the villain. 13 Don't care. The entire game is a villain for sucking. 15 Ardyn is another that was done well and really interesting.
Kefka is the best but he is severely held back by the cast. They loosely hold together the opposition to his villain theme (which was not *well* established) but he himself carries the villainy magic well enough on his own.
Ultimecia got screwed because she has one of the absolute best themes but just like Kefka, it wasn't apparent until way late in the game. Unlike Kefka, she doesn't have much involvement and tie ins with the cast but what she has that Kefka doesn't is that her motivations are very well tied with the theme of the game.
Since the video didn't point it out I will. Kefka himself had a general existential crisis but Ultimecia had something more specific. She was actually terrified that she was forgetting things about her life and she specifically treasured her memories. The whole game of FF8 subtly and not-so-subtly goes over the passage of time, loss of past joys and the hardship of entering new sections of your life.
Ultimecia, in this sense, is extremely relatable. I think they made Kuja more closely resemble the bad guy from blade runner in this sense but it is clear that Ultimecia reflected one of his last sentences much more specifically. The line he says when he talks about some of his fantastic moments in life. "All those moments....they'll be gone... like tears in the rain."
So yeah I agree with you that Ultimecia is nahh, especially when she was like the FF2 villain, but I thought someone in the comments had to actually mention her motivation. The video didn't.
I gotta admit, this was more entertaining than I expected.
A mixture of acid trip, sephi-terminologies, Kuja's metal jockstrap and Vayne T-posing. Not really gonna complain.
I'm sad that ppl think FF3 is a bad game. I like it a lot, and IMO is so much better than that FF2 shit.
Came here expecting a thorough and serious analysis, but this was much better
Ahahaha, thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
It’s a shame the four arch fiends in IV couldn’t be included, since Rubicante is an infinitely better antagonist than the actual main antagonists of that game.
Your videos have a really high quality. Thought this was a 500K sub channel. Impressed!
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Ok now you`ve convinced me that you didn`t pay much attention. Kefka didn`t do it for revenge of his suffering. He did it because-
1: For the LOLs
2: Because he thinks everything`s existence is worthless. Why cling to life when you know you`re gonna die someday? Why try getting something if you know it`s gonna be lost someday? Why care about anything if its not going to be there forever? Everything is transitory, so why bother with trying to not keep it transitory? He thought that nothingness was better than everyone being madmen crazily struggling for stupid, worthless things that won`t be there after a while. Our characters experienced loss themselves, and what does Kefka have to say about it? It doesn`t matter! He says it was impossible to prevent those losses so it was stupid of them to even care about the things/people the lost, then get sad & start weeping when they lost em! That's the point of Kefka- ``Why do you build, knowing destruction is inevitable? why do you yearn for life, knowing all things must die? Knowing that none of it will have meant anything once you do? Life... Dreams... Hope... where do they come from... and where are they headed? these things... I`m going to Destroy!``
And he does all of it in the most horrible ways possible, while enjoying with a demonic laughter, enjoying the music of hundreds screaming in unison,.
Something about Seymour, he met Yunalesca and learned the truth from her. If you listen to their dialogue, what Seymour says is almost word for word what Yunalesca says. Death is Spira's only true liberation.
It wasn't just cause of a shit upbringing, but more likely what Yunalesca revealed to him.
@Papi Greed I don't know if you've ever played the game. Yunalesca is a holy figure in FFX. It would be like if Jesus or Mohammed or Buddha or whoever revealed the truth of the universe to you. That's basically what happened to Seymour.
Great video dude. The quality of your editing has gone up tremendously. Well done!
Thank you very much! I worked pretty hard on it and it's nice to know that it shows :D
Sephiroth didn't went wrong. Actually he was a succesfull experiment. And he was a care and gentle boy before the crisis
Garland didn’t send himself through time the arch fiends did.
U got my sub good video
Thank you very much! Stay tuned for a new Final Fantasy video (in the next couple of weeks)
@@MozilloGames no thank you for the good content
Extremely underrated channel
The story Sephiroth is genius, complex and dramatic. A lot of twists make it very captivating.
It's pretty dull actually.
His story is crazy but he himself is pretty lame as far as personality goes.
Ardyn’s backstory is explained in better detail in episode Ardyn
And Bhunivelze has the most insane battle theme of all Final Fantasy Franchise
Dude.... Kefka is a Court Jester or Fool.. the concept of a clown descends from that.
The Kings Fool often was a very very brilliant person from within the kingdom as the fool was one of the only people who could theoretically criticize the king to his face.
Were he wrong... we all "jape at the fool for being a fool". Part of the job was the skill in delivery... the Fool absolutely could point out to the king when he himself was being absurd though and though the room would laugh it off the king often would take the feedback under advisement.
Makes a little more sense why a fallen scientist in close proximity to the king was dressed so now right?
Kefka used his position to get a front row seat to the kingdom and struck in the singular moment where the reigns of power were up for grabs for any man present.
All while dressed as a clown.
Hate how everyone skips over XI cus they never played the game. It has one of the best stories in any FF game.
More on Seymour he was also by himself alot since his Mother died
play new game gives you Garland's back story man did he get screwed over!
You are awesome!! Keep it up :D
Pretty cool
Yu Yevon is supposed to look like a Parasite like a Tick by how Yu Yevon looks like he was a Summoner but then dies and turns into this and Yevons Conscience is dead
Gr8 material bro :)
Of the games I've played -
Golbez is a pretty rad character, certainly one of the more interesting characters in IV, especially in the wake of Dissidia and the After Years. I do think Zemus is pretty meh though. He comes out of nowhere only mentioned right near the end (Cloud of Darkness and Necron I kinda forgive because they were never meant to be main villains, just final bosses), and anything interesting about his story and lore would just be done a lot better with Garland in FFIX.
Exdeath I adore - I know he's not the most deep or complex but like you said, FFV is more fun than deep or interesting, and in that respect I love this big doofus, especially in places like Dissidia or the GBA translation. I love his hamminess, I love his unholy sexual longing for the void, I love how he manages to be menacing but also kinda laughable villain. I feel 'TURTLE!' and 'You'll find no such tasty diversions in the afterlife' are some of the best villain lines ever written.
Kefka I'm kinda meh about - he's not especially interesting, he never really comes across as *that* threatening given the entire first half of the game is just you one-upping and outsmarting/outmuscling him, and once you get the band back together and decide to actually try to take him on rather than just give and die, he falls pretty quickly. Yeah he shakes the world up pretty bad (I never really agreed he fully destroyed it) but the game ends on a hopeful note and really a ton of villains for achieve their goals if only temporarily (Kefka wins for a while, but so do Exdeath, Golbez, Kuja, and from what I've heard Ardyn and Caius do too).
Sephiroth set the gold standard for edgy anime villains. He's got the backstory and interesting lore and sends a powerful message about the dangers of human experiments and growing corporations going too far. He does lose a fair few points though for being really one of the few villains to not really do any long lasting damage and never actually achieves his goals.
Kuja is I'd argue the most interesting villain, and one of my favourites. I love how he's the antithesis of the games main message about making the most of life and what it means to live, I love how he presents himself as just a narcissistic generic villain that is slowly revealed to have more and more depth and I love how even though he appears as just a vain, effeminate fop he fucks shit up, ruins a lot of lives and causes a shitton of grief. He's manages to be threatening despite his look and demeanour (no easy task), he's interesting, he's dangerous, he's layered, and as much as he probably hates it, he's human. I love this bitch.
X I do think struggles with keeping one consistent villain. Seymour I like as a villain, he's got a great creepy, pedophilic voice, everything about him just radiates 'nope' energy and everytime he shows up you just want to punch him, which I think makes a great villain. I just wish he didn't become a completely irrelevant, pointless, less of a villain and more an annoyance halfway through. Jecht has potential but the game never really presents him as 'the main villain'. And Yu Yevon is just a more convoluted, more underwhelming, very lackluster version of Zemus (already a pretty meh villain).
From what I've heard Ardyn and Caius are pretty rad, Dissidia makes Garland and the Emperor super enjoyable and endearing (and in Garland's case even kinda interesting and deep) but don't know about their original games, haven't played III so I can't speak for Xande (though CoD I just find too silly design wise and too boring personality wise to get behind).
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I THOUGHT HE`S 25!!!!
Bruh, how the heck aren't you regularly getting at least 1k views per video???
You are far too kind! But, thank you for the kind words. While I wish my stuff got more views, I'm somewhat fine as long as people just like what they see!
Sorry. Your constant mispronunciations are distracting.
Sephiroth is so overrated. I like Kefka and Ardryn better
Anyone else kinda feels that Sephiroth's motivation is just whack? Dude is just delusional and the way he comes his conclusion is just weird. Yea he could've been a monster but he ain't. He had his own free will. And instead of targeting his anger and hatred at the company that made him, he aimed the rest of the world..? Not a bad story sure, but its overrated imo.. just me? Ok..
I initially thought his motivation was fucking stupid too, but I also think that he come to the conclusions he did because he was so physically close to Jenova at that time, and considering we know that she can manipulate those with her cells, she possibly did that to Sephiroth, combining his emotional freak out with her motives.
I also think that the fact that he’s treated like a celebrity up on high by almost everyone in the game before Nibelheim, with Cloud and President Shinra proving that, he probably developed a superiority complex that he felt was justified by the fact that his biological makeup was proven to be different from everyone else’s through the research he did.
That interestingly parallels Cloud’s own development, as he developed a superiority complex as well as a child, but instead of it being because he was actually better than most people, it was out of his insecurities about being the exact opposite.
That all said, I actually don’t think Sephiroth is that great of a character anyways, although how he antagonizes and is a foil to Cloud is brilliant. My favorite FF villain is Kuja by far.
Exdeath was one of the worst bad guys ever. He was basically a Saturday morning cartoon villain. He just wanted to destroy everything for no reason. He was maybe the lamest bad guy from the FF universe. The bad guy from FF V was a TREE for Christ sake. What a stupid idea! I know they were trying to make an environmental message, but come on! A tree for a bad guy? Give me a break.
Kefka was the best FF villain ever.
Yea but he was a tree from a forest where humanity put all the bad shit. And then this one tree was like "Hey! Ima absorb all this bad shit cuz I'm in a bad forest." And that's why Exdeath wants to just destroy everything cause that's what you do when you're made out of nothing but bad since all bad things want to do is destroy. Duh
Kinda like how death incites emotional struggles. Not necessarily have to be death but when someone you cherished passed away you'd easily feel sad. Aerith's death is iconic and impactful not only to the characters but also to the players. It wouldn't have the same response if another thing besides death happened to her.