Rupert Read & Roger Hallam: Waking up to climate breakdown

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  • @pigstonwidget
    @pigstonwidget 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    your discussions are enlightening and in an odd way comforting!

  • @Skylark_Jones
    @Skylark_Jones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant discussion, getting to the nub of building a "civil rights" movement for the climate emergency.

  • @jageo48
    @jageo48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    *Nonlinear eh!?* Two weekends ago, we had a storm cross Nova Scotia where I live. It was bigger than the entirety of Canada, stretching from the Pacific coast of Mexico to beyond Labrador. The lowest pressure that morning in the world, was measured in the Atlantic Ocean just off the coast of NL at 927 mb. Now let's look at this carefully. I've been measuring weather bombs, classified as a drop of 24 MB in 24 hours of atmospheric pressure, 'bout every 10 days since last fall. The storm I mentioned, had a drop in atmospheric pressure of 42 MB in 8 hours, i.e., between 11 PM that night to 7 AM on Sunday morning. Hell of a ride eh what?! hahaha If we can laugh at the collective stupidity of our species, we'll sing and dance on our way out, which, is what Alan Watts wanted from us before he took his own dive. hahaha

    • @ollie2052000
      @ollie2052000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah we ain’t getting out of this one alive.

    • @em945
      @em945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crazy stuff.

  • @MarkHopewell
    @MarkHopewell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We could also do with a Christopher Hitchens-type in the messaging team too. I wonder what Hitchens would have said about climate change today?...
    I say this after listening to Rupert's tussle with Austin Allegro on LBC. Rupert batted him back but it lacked a knock out blow. Wasn't it Hitchens that was well known for his knockout punches? "You've been Hitchslapped!" or something? Maybe I'm wrong?...
    It's the way Hitchens could debate that was effective. His choice of retort, the tone and intonation and speed of delivery in its execution - it's delivery was devastating. He also had the ability to find examples from his encyclopaedia-like memory which fitted the choice of bullet to use to finish the opponent instantly.
    Another example was Rupert dealing with Mogg, again on LBC. Mogg tried gaslighting Rupert about Emma Thompson using long haul flights to come to protest in London or some other issue to do with hypocrisy and contradictions. Rupert retorted about Mogg's football team-like family. OK, it was a good retort but it lacked enough bite, I mean it was a shade short of an emphatic slap down.
    I enjoy listening to Rupert. He is one of the lights I'm learning from at the moment. This is helping greatly. However, whereas no disrespect is meant in any way, there needs to be someone, somewhat to supplement Rupert with an attack line that is far more withering. Politely rationalising with the likes of Austin Allegro and regional 'Conservative-leaning BBC studio minor celebrity presenters, isn't going to convey the urgency enough.
    More brutality needed. More going for the jugular. Take off the gloves, bare Knuckle, so to speak.
    Another flaw in the way Rupert debates at times is he sounds like he's biting when the bait is offered to him. His response to Austin Allegro and Mogg are two clear examples. Instead of sounding irritated and rattled by these interviewers and their tactics, study Hitchens and watch how he calmly unzips the opponent with unruffled ease no matter how much they try to get under his skin. Unflappable. No need to go on Twitter to ask people to feel sorry for you or angle for sympathy. Just take it on the chin as Hitchens use to and move on selling the message.
    This is all very easy for me to say, as it must be really difficult to deal with these people. But to hit back the delivery needs to change. More Hitchslaps - less polite discourse and pseudo intellectual clap trap. The message needs to leave the lecture theatre and to now enter the pubs and workplaces where real ordinary unthinking people live out their lives.
    As for Roger, well. I can't think of a worse front man at this point of the game to try to deliver a message this urgent than if I was doing it! Roger should more organise than try to communicate in wider public appearances. Again I admire Roger for mobilising the message but it needs some else to deliver it now - to carry the torch.
    I'm sorry for whining here today but I feel frustrated that the message isn't getting through in such a way to make people wake up to themselves for more quickly to say the least!
    Your tactics need updating very urgently. Maybe you've already achieved this and April's mass protests will demonstrate this, I don't know? However, if it's more of the same without a different nuance or change of tac, I fear the message is going to lose momentum.

    • @ollie2052000
      @ollie2052000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes agreed, one fears the lack of momentum on conveying the evidence will be the short term extinction of humanity.

  • @davidmccaig6647
    @davidmccaig6647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let’s get through WW3 first.