@@rahroy4712 He meant for when it was made, Obviously nowadays we can use computers to make it easier to create stuff like this. At the time when this was made there wasnt really anything like this seen beforem atleast not as good and fluent looking.
TEN THOUSAND FRAMES?! I was a film major back when film was film, and lucky enough to have gone to Gene's house to record a piece for Cyd's lifetime acievement award back in '85, but this process was just an insane amount of work. Only problem art director me has with this, is that though they'd cleverly managed the reflection of Jerry's image, Gene has a prominent shadow from front lighting, where Jerry has none. Gonna double check the original, but I thought it a rather conspicuious miss. Still in awe of the incredible amount of work this must have taken. Wow!!!
basicaly, Roger Rabbit have been made the same way. Only from Space Jam cgi was used both for compositing and props. I think that Jerry's moment is far better than mary poppins piece of animation
MGM: “hey Disney can we use Mickey in our movie?” Disney: “hell no, you have your own mouse why don’t you just use him” MGM: “okay we will” I’m not kidding that’s basically what happened
Amazing being an animator myself, matte painting and things sounds really cool, didn't get to do that in school , mostly did 3D and did 2D with Flash, but I much rather know how they did it back then.
When I was a very young girl, Disney and classic cartoons gave me an intense dream to be an animator when I grew up. Well, I grew up, and I forgot all about it. Thank you for reminding me why I had such a passion for animation. (Also, thank you for clarifying the reflections of both Gene and Jerry on the floor).
@@SergeantExtreme no, sadly. This was a little bit before the mainstream internet. I really didn’t have any ready resources to inspire me; and perhaps I myself was a little lazy as well. So I never pursued it. But being a kid raised on classic Looney Tunes / Tex Avery / Renaissance Disney, that desire to understand and appreciate animation is still inside me. Maybe one day I can discover that passion again.
@@Sarah-zr1nj Then might I point you in the direction of Harry Partridge? Not only is he a brilliant animator himself, but he actually made an animation tutorial series. That should help you realize if it's something you can do. Here a link to the intro video. The links to the rest of the tutorial series is in the description: th-cam.com/video/lA5N-_WBwow/w-d-xo.html
@@SergeantExtreme unfortunately, no. I barely even draw or sketch anymore. It’s nobody’s fault but mine. This year has made me depressed and lazy. I should really just hitch myself up and start cartooning again. It used to bring me a lot of joy.
@@Sarah-zr1nj Awww, well then let me inspire you once again! A guy did this with nothing more than a Wacom tablet and Microsoft Paint: th-cam.com/video/v2g5qbvb7F4/w-d-xo.html
The original footage is in the Library Of Congress in Washington DC, so permission had to be granted, even though it's available to the public. Then it was remastered to bring it into 2009. THEN Stewie was added in digitally. The full three and half minute scene was edited for time, given that each episode is 30 minutes, including Road To Rupert. That's part of why you see Jerry's shadow instead of Stewie's shadow.
The original footage is in the Library Of Congress in Washington DC, so permission had to be granted, even though it's available to the public. Then it was remastered to bring it into 2009. THEN Stewie was added in digitally. The full three and half minute scene was edited for time, given that each episode is 30 minutes, including Road To Rupert. That's part of why you see Jerry's shadow instead of Stewie's shadow.
The original footage is in the Library Of Congress in Washington DC, so permission had to be granted, even though it's available to the public. Then it was remastered to bring it into 2009. THEN Stewie was added in digitally. The full three and half minute scene was edited for time, given that each episode is 30 minutes, including Road To Rupert. That's part of why you see Jerry's shadow instead of Stewie's shadow.
I look at this as not really being "canon" Jerry as he is playing a different character. It was originally going to be Mickey Mouse but Walt Disney wouldn't give the rights to MGM.
It was Disney idea first they we're the first studio too do this MGM wonted Mickey Mouse too dance with gene but Walt disney turn them down so then they got jerry mouse with approval from Hanna Barbera
This was so ahead of it's time.
yoonponk waaay
Not really, this process was extremely hard to do. Now we can copy and paste a character on to anything without hardly doing anything
@@rahroy4712 He meant for when it was made, Obviously nowadays we can use computers to make it easier to create stuff like this. At the time when this was made there wasnt really anything like this seen beforem atleast not as good and fluent looking.
Now Seth McFarland can uses computers and make it so much faster.
Yeah I know
TEN THOUSAND FRAMES?! I was a film major back when film was film, and lucky enough to have gone to Gene's house to record a piece for Cyd's lifetime acievement award back in '85, but this process was just an insane amount of work. Only problem art director me has with this, is that though they'd cleverly managed the reflection of Jerry's image, Gene has a prominent shadow from front lighting, where Jerry has none. Gonna double check the original, but I thought it a rather conspicuious miss. Still in awe of the incredible amount of work this must have taken. Wow!!!
10k frames but…. With jerry with reflection
If 10 thousand frames is surprising to you then you really don't know much about animation, mr film major
My god that's amazing, and the final result _still_ holds up after all these years
Impressive for a film that came out in 1945!
43 years before people were impressed by Roger Rabbit and this is every bit as good if not better.
basicaly, Roger Rabbit have been made the same way. Only from Space Jam cgi was used both for compositing and props. I think that Jerry's moment is far better than mary poppins piece of animation
This technique was used in several movies around that time, such as The Three Caballeros (1944) and Song of the South (1946).
@@HariSeldon913 1945!!!! dam!!! that is allot of work.
I wish more hand drawn animations were done today! Digitally has its perks but just hand drawn makes it so better!
Probably because it’s so expansive
MGM: “hey Disney can we use Mickey in our movie?”
Disney: “hell no, you have your own mouse why don’t you just use him”
MGM: “okay we will”
I’m not kidding that’s basically what happened
I mean they’re not wrong
Lol
Amazing being an animator myself, matte painting and things sounds really cool, didn't get to do that in school , mostly did 3D and did 2D with Flash, but I much rather know how they did it back then.
I would beak my head in the first day
When I was a very young girl, Disney and classic cartoons gave me an intense dream to be an animator when I grew up. Well, I grew up, and I forgot all about it. Thank you for reminding me why I had such a passion for animation. (Also, thank you for clarifying the reflections of both Gene and Jerry on the floor).
So you never ended up following your passion as an animator?
@@SergeantExtreme no, sadly. This was a little bit before the mainstream internet. I really didn’t have any ready resources to inspire me; and perhaps I myself was a little lazy as well. So I never pursued it. But being a kid raised on classic Looney Tunes / Tex Avery / Renaissance Disney, that desire to understand and appreciate animation is still inside me. Maybe one day I can discover that passion again.
@@Sarah-zr1nj Then might I point you in the direction of Harry Partridge? Not only is he a brilliant animator himself, but he actually made an animation tutorial series. That should help you realize if it's something you can do. Here a link to the intro video. The links to the rest of the tutorial series is in the description:
th-cam.com/video/lA5N-_WBwow/w-d-xo.html
@@SergeantExtreme unfortunately, no. I barely even draw or sketch anymore. It’s nobody’s fault but mine. This year has made me depressed and lazy. I should really just hitch myself up and start cartooning again. It used to bring me a lot of joy.
@@Sarah-zr1nj Awww, well then let me inspire you once again! A guy did this with nothing more than a Wacom tablet and Microsoft Paint:
th-cam.com/video/v2g5qbvb7F4/w-d-xo.html
Gosh! So much WORK to do! Endless hours it took to do all that staff, by hand, frame-by-frame!
i have tried animating on ones before and it is so hard to get right, those animators must have been incredibly talented
Fun Fact: Tom did actually appear in Anchors Aweigh giving Jerry some cheese
For a 1945 movie, that was pretty damn ground breaking.
Amazing & patient artists before digi tech!
Bro I was supposed to go to bed an hour ago yet here I am
One thing I've always wondered: Is Jerry really big or is Gene Kelly really small?
😃
When Family Guy did this scene with Stewie you can still see Jerry's feet in the reflection on the floor
The original footage is in the Library Of Congress in Washington DC, so permission had to be granted, even though it's available to the public. Then it was remastered to bring it into 2009. THEN Stewie was added in digitally. The full three and half minute scene was edited for time, given that each episode is 30 minutes, including Road To Rupert. That's part of why you see Jerry's shadow instead of Stewie's shadow.
The original footage is in the Library Of Congress in Washington DC, so permission had to be granted, even though it's available to the public. Then it was remastered to bring it into 2009. THEN Stewie was added in digitally. The full three and half minute scene was edited for time, given that each episode is 30 minutes, including Road To Rupert. That's part of why you see Jerry's shadow instead of Stewie's shadow.
The original footage is in the Library Of Congress in Washington DC, so permission had to be granted, even though it's available to the public. Then it was remastered to bring it into 2009. THEN Stewie was added in digitally. The full three and half minute scene was edited for time, given that each episode is 30 minutes, including Road To Rupert. That's part of why you see Jerry's shadow instead of Stewie's shadow.
Thats awesome!
The rotoscoping process was created by Max Fleischer
That is so cool you have to give credit to the animators for that awesome scene way before CGI
Absolutely incredible work
What a horrendous pain in the arse making movies is.
Ingenious and beautiful.
Animation is amazing
This was pretty cool for a movie from 1945. This was such a cool scene!
I didn't know that Jerry could talk!!!!!!
I look at this as not really being "canon" Jerry as he is playing a different character. It was originally going to be Mickey Mouse but Walt Disney wouldn't give the rights to MGM.
He talks in Tom and Jerry:the movie from 1992 as well.
@@reggiekrager5411 I think they may been lucky about not knowing about the movie lol
@@dat1tallguy637I don’t consider that movie canon either
Tom and Jerry canon? Haha you autistic children are a riot!
what I want to know is how the Family Guy when was done how did they replace Jerry Mouse with Stewie Griffin
that was done digitally.
And it seems like it was lazy enough to leave Jerry's reflection on the floor
Rotoscoped Stewie over the existing animation of Jerry.
rw:excellent question.
Untainted SKS I actually prefer Stewie to Jerry. I know he is just basically traced over Jerry but I still prefer Stewie.
It should also be mentioned that Stanley Donen was dancing the part of the mouse...
Wow thank you so much
I always thought how the hell did he dance with a cartoon.
All that drawing must have been alot of work.
WOW...!
chinze bo mh
Worth discussing about to this movie
Incredible.
Well, the reflection wasn’t exactly a double exposure, it also had a heavy directional blur to match the behavior of gene’s refelction
RIP Stanley Donen :/
Incredible
What's up Flex Fans, we're gonna check out the new green screen, it's awesome
LITERALLY, THIS WAS LIKE THE ROGER RABBIT OF THE 40s.
super
Ahead of it's time with thousand upon thousands of hours of work to achieve it
Okay you can have the helicopter.
I Adore It
rw:wow.
Jerry the mouse means a lot to Bill Hanna & Joe Barbara.
Holy s**t, Jerry is a HUGE mouse...!! O.o
is this narrated by the guy who is buddy's elf dad in the 2004 ELF
No sadly
Now explain how they replaced jerry with stewie
Interesante como se hizo el dúo de Gene Kelly con J. Mouse
10k frames....oooweeee ik that's crazy
If he wasn't a sailor in this movie, I would have think he's stolen Donald's clothes.
💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Also jerry talks all time
But tom talks but in this movie he just be silent like mr peanut
It was also mentioned in Family Guy, but instead of Jerry there's Stewie Griffin.
I bet you Seth McFarland found the original footage and did a little magic himself to get stewie in there.
Mickey Scrapped!!!!!!
whack how tall they made jerry for this lmao
Or maybe Gene was just short 🤨
They probably did the same thing with the family guy version
They did so digitally, taking way less time and tedious work I imagine
It was Disney idea first they we're the first studio too do this MGM wonted Mickey Mouse too dance with gene but Walt disney turn them down so then they got jerry mouse with approval from Hanna Barbera
If I could make a Mickey sequence
Um...he danced with stewie.
You didn't watch the original,right?
Then Seth Macfarlane got ahold of it
Y lo mismo con Family Guy !!!! Lol
All that hard work! And all Family Guy did was trace over it! That Seth Macfarlane is damn lazy!
Yeah
Absolute autists
super