Very true. Respect goes along way both ways! A small acknowledgement also goes along way. As he mentions when some people feel annoyed by motorcyclists filtering depending on our attitude as riders will also determine the overall outcome of a situation like that.
Finally... A calm, relaxed instructional video which doesn't make out 1 person is wrong and 1 is right. It's all about observation and consideration on the road, for all road users. 👍
Excellent point about the most dangerous point during filtering is when there's a gap big enough for a car to fit into. Keep your eyes peeled for those snap lane-changers!
I've been biking for over 50 years and you nailed it on this video, exactly what every rider needs to consider when filtering. Top job! Love from Leeds x
Nice video! I find that especially recently lorry drivers pay a lot more attention than car drivers and are very quick to give you plenty of room to pass. As far as I’m concerned, the bad reputation lorry drivers have is quite unjustified indeed!
As a person who used to drive lorries, it is drummed into you during driver training ( and after through the regular CPC courses that you have to attend compulsorily to meet DVSA standards ) to continuously monitor your mirrors. The fact that you are driving a large vehicle means you have far less room available to you to manoeuvre in heavy traffic so your employment wouldn't last very long if you kept side swiping other road users.
Bus driver here, we get taught to the same standards and I can agree with everything you said. There is the issue of foreign drivers who may perhaps have different attitudes and training compared to UK drivers. Also, CPC is somewhat flawed in that you don't have to do an actual driving assessment as part of it. Thus you end up with many older drivers with "grandfather" HGV rights who don't drive to the same standards as those being trained up today.
I’ve only had a bike license for many years but during my driving lessons I was astonished at how much car drivers can see in their mirrors but just choose not to! 😅
You know when cycling. I personally find artics and the likes to be the least scary as generally seem more courteous and have a much better awareness of what's happening up the road
Good, solid tips. Nice job. There’s a stretch of dual c’way on my usual route home, often clogged and at a stand still so filtering is a skill I had to acquire. One thing I came to realise, though, is just how exhausting a couple of miles of that can be: eyes on stalks, every sense fully stretched. Recognising that, sometimes when I hit that queue, I’d bail, hang a left and take the long way home… recognising when it wasn’t working for me was, I think, also a vital skill acquired.
Very much so, safe filtering needs you full concentration and can be very tiring if over a long distance, I had to do that for 20 miles after an M25 accident and another biker followed me, we stopped after and said wow that was exhausting, but safe. Great video
A very informative video for riding through traffic,I would just add that in built up areas to be alert for pedestrians walking between moving and stationary traffic. Cyclists manoeuvring from cycle lanes and pathways without looking. Same fast electric bicycles that can reach up to 45mph can quickly be in your own blind spot without warning. Following another motorcycle through traffic some other road users may see them but think there’s only one bike and move back over into an area that was clear to filter previously. Fourty years of riding and as a retired CBT Instructor I would always say to newbies and experienced riders to never get complacent about your riding ability as it can be tested very quickly at the end of your road or 500 miles away,the rider must be alert at all times. Ride safe and have fun all.
Very good instruction here, important to remember that if drivers move to block your path, detach yourself from making it personal and find another way past. Seen a lot of bikers getting aerated when blocked, just back off and dont engage.
As a returning biker after a 20 year lay-off, this is great advice; thanks! As a rider and cyclist, I tend to try to thank as much as possible. Reinforcing good behaviours when drivers display them is always a good thing.
Thank you. Your presentational technique allows cars to consider bikes and vice versa. I’m not sure that all bikers appreciate that drivers even when aware can still be surprised when a bike filters at speed. Even after a couple of decades driving the last thing you expect is someone making 3 lanes when there is only 2 and zips past you. Your demonstration and explanation shows that everyone can use the road safely if speed is appropriate to the driving conditions. There are too many road users nowadays who put their lives in others hands by not driving defensively. Thanks again for a very well presented video.
All good advice thanks. Down here in Oz the maximum speed at which we are allowed to filter is 30kph which I think is about right and fair. Any more than that is considered lane splitting. I do tend to try to go for the front if I can at the lights as it gives me a chance to spend time in clear space which is nice, before catching up with the crowd ahead. As you say, not always worth it though. A new hazzard I have found of late is the occasional EV intent on dragging me off at the lights because they can! I always make a note of that when I pull up next to someone at the front. They tend to give themselves away by creeping forward a little before the lights have changed... In any case one more precaution is to always do a right, left headcheck to ensure all cross traffic has actually stopped.
I am a new biker and have filtered only maybe a dozen times so far… But I put my hazards on and beam on recently and found many more cars noticed me and pulled over for me in some heavy tailback. This was very useful.
I used to commute into London daily for about 8yrs. Two things stood out on filtering for me: Use the gaps and use the lifesaver. I liked to use the gaps because I didn't want to be a static headlight in the centre of the traffic - I wanted to be moving always slightly to my left and right as gaps appeared but also to get driver's attention. And the lifesaver because, well, it's the lifesaver - it's not just a clever name...
@@prestonhalle9818 You may know it by a different name but it is the final check over your shoulder into the space that you're about to move into. It is performed always before you move and not as you move...
The other day I was filtering on my VFR 800, I've always found that if you take it easy and calm most motorists don't get that stressed, apart from Taxi drivers, behind me was a sports bike very very close who kept revving up I assumed for me to get out of his way because my bike has panniers some of the gaps were little bit tight so I was taking it easy when a gap appeared I used it so he could pass me, off he went still revving for cars to move, I stayed in that space thinking he was upsetting too many drivers and they would block me. Your vids and advise have always worked for me. Many Thanks
I absolutely love this. As a driver who does lots of miles and has been stuck in a fair few queues, this is fantastic. I always say that if im at or below 10mph, I'll move over for a motorcycle. However, if I'm 20/25 or above, I'll slowly move to the right hand side to "protect" the rider coming up with any incoming traffic. Once it's clear, I'll move back over. The major thing that annoys me is when you're going 55/60mph and a motorcycle comes steaming up, screams past and squeezes into your breaking gap. Anyway, fantastic driving and keep safe on the cold roads 🦆👌🏻
Excellent instruction and great to see an emphasis on rider attitudes towards other road users. I have to admit that I no longer filter after a couple of aggression related incidents; stay safe all.
Great video as usual, I filter when safe and always watch vehicles in front for front wheels steering into my path just in case as it suggests they may change lane. I also try not to be first at lights when filtering just in case someone runs red light across my direction of travel as it reduces risk of being T boned. Ride as if you’re invisible and ride to survive.
Another cracking video, thank you. I am paying particular attention to filtering videos to learn how best to do it and remain safe and when not to do it. Your videos have been invaluable in helping me in my first few months of bike ownership.
If remember correctly, in the 1973 edition of the UK Highway Code it actually stated a recommended maximum filtering speed of 27 mph. Yes, I was learning to drive, so had a copy. I now live in France where, filtering is only legal in certain cities and Ile de France (around Paris). The maximum filtering speed is variable depending upon the speed of the adjacent traffic up to a maximum of 50 km/h (31 mph). Here most riders use "Le Leg"** to thank other motorists as it allows them to keep their hands on the bars while filtering. A rather sensible idea I thought as you don't usually need to grip the tank tightly with your knees when upright in a straight line. ** "Le Leg": Sticking the appropriate leg, usually the right leg, out straight from the bike (a little like the "Doctor's Dangle" but straighter) as you pass in front of the vehicle you wish to thank. (Also known as : Biker's leg gesture)
over the years ive filtered hundreds and hundreds of miles in UK, also in many European cities. I always put hazards on and high beam. Im not sure of the legality but cars do notice you. I always thank too. Never use front brake but cover rear. Cheers, good vid.
great advice. I want to add some, based on my experience, filtering around 10 000 kms a year in Brussels and Antwerp rush hour of my total of 30 000 kms a year riding. Also based on customs and laws applied in Belgium. - Use the hazard lights, mine, as an extra, are coupled to the Denali D2's via canbus, especially usefull in the dark; wet and cold winter months as the light of the Denali's bounces of the back of the cars in front of me, grabbing very much attention. - Always cover the front brake lever - Be wary of gaps in the line - Watch the front wheels, they kind of predict the direction the cars wil be going - Be extra carefull at exits or entries as people are going to weave a lot more in these areas.
I was pleased to come across your video, as not many comment on filtering or other issues. I agree with all your comments although I do go to the front at lights if I know I have time to complete before the change. At lights it is essential to know that no one is red light running (sorry if that is obvious) I had a period when buses were running reds. If you have a powerful bike like me, I am aware I have a very short time to react. Observe and care is better than finding panic! Thanks for putting sensible safety advice out to younger riders. Filtering itself, I'm with you, keep the speed low and move over to let the young bucks pass if they speed through. It is part of the law here in Western Australia, no more 20kms I think,. Thankfully I don't have to worry about frost anymore! Just getting roasted while waiting at lights.
Very good tips. I haven't needed to do much filtering lately because I can afford to ride off-peak but I have a self-imposed speed limit of 20mph for doing it and you need to be vigilant, as you pointed out.
Totally agree about your filtering technique, no need to filter at 20 mph faster than cars doing 15 mph already , only been deliberately cut up in 50 years of motorcycling, moved across from the right to block my left filter on a slow moving dual carriage way , they’d thought they had hit me , but no my boot left a nice dent in his passenger door and I was gone . But always acknowledge bad and good drivers 😊😊👍👍
Excellent wee video, and reassuring that I do everything you advise. (Except riding an electric bike. Or riding in the middle of winter 😅). Also, nice that you point out how many motorists are courteous & helpful - not a very fashionable thing to say, but true - and positive.
Sound advice as always, I don't have a problem filtering to the front at junctions when it is safe to do so. But I don't filter to the front at roundabouts (with or without traffic lights). If there is a spill or debris on the roundabout and your sandwiched between two lanes of cars, your options to avoid the obstacle could be limited, especially if a jack the lad thinks he'll try his hand at beating you off the mark. Plus I find in Dundee especially that many drivers have appalling lane discipline at roundabouts.
In the last few years I've noticed far more drivers make a positive move out of the way while I'm filtering, and I'm happy to thank them where possible. As soon as the traffic in one lane starts to move faster than the other it's time to pick the one which best suits your route.
Good video 👍 i ride daily for work and generally filter on m25 at the end of the day. I'm also a hgv driver and almost all are bike friendly and will generally give you a bit more space if they can, probably because truckers and bikers are the minority on the road and we have to stick together. You've given some great advice for riders who are a little unsure about filtering. Keep up the great work and be safe bro 💪
I remember that comment Russ, by a lawyer on a YT video (can't recall which channel), and it certainly raised my eyebrows. Great advice you gave there on... Its not up to the other drivers to keep you safe, it's up to you 👍😊.
Fully agree with everything you said except the thanking people who didn't let you in. I'm a trucker, on the road all day and one of the things that really pisses me off is people who "push in" and then say thank you as if I had any choice in the matter. If I've seen you and you are faster than me and it's safe or sensible, I will let you in, if I don't, there's a reason that maybe you are not aware of, you may be fine and there may be no problem at all but don't thank me afterwards.
Im from the UK but live in the Philippines and I would do anything to have that much space down the middle when filtering haha. Great vid as always thank you.
Top class upload and instruction Russ. I'm so sick of of bikers that rely on the MYTH that "loud pipes saves lives" to excuse having loud exhausts. As biker that loves filtering I will not put my safety in the hands of other road users, and that's exactly what that myth is based on, relying on other road users to hear you and HOPING they'll accommodate you. Modern cars are designed to insulate the cabin from noise, and what if the car driver is deaf? And you're definitely right about HGV drivers, they often see us bikers long before car drivers do.
Good recap - thanks. I've been guilty on occasion of being so wrapped up in what's ahead of me that I haven't spotted a bike filtering quicker than me coming up behind. Also worth keeping an eye on what is to the left of traffic on nearside and to the right of traffic on your right - i.e. things which may cause them to change lane. You can also sometimes use their side mirrors to see the driver and whether they are obviously distracted. Not saying it's a regular thing as there's usually too much else to check and it doesn't always work, but it's another tool worth trying.
I like how you say “thank you” even when the driver of the car is not really helping you out or when you are pulling into the front of the line of cars. In Los Angeles, where I ride and drive sometimes, traffic is quite aggressive, but a wave of the hand after a lane change that was a bit close seems to always “disarm” the road rage tendency.
Spot on! I’d just like to reinforce to not filter to the head of the queue at roundabouts because the driver on your right (assuming left side driving!) will be looking only to the right for their traffic gap and will be oblivious to anything on their left. Don’t ride as if you’re invincible, ride as if you’re invisible!
I found when filtering on a motorway on my Zero DSR that it helped to use a mode with both fairly high acceleration and a lot of regenerative braking. That helped respond to changes in the traffic flow, particularly narrowing and widening gaps.
Regularly filter on my rides to work and agree with a lot of what you’re saying. One of my tricks is to put on main beam (and fog lights) just for the extra visibility. Also I almost always filter to the front of junctions if it’s safe. Generally this gets me ahead of the traffic until the next slow down but also means you’re only dealing with the car at the front of the queue (who is most likely to see you) rather than setting off in the middle of cars who are perhaps only focused on the traffic lights and getting to the right lane.
Anything that helps bikers have a safer ride is a good watch in my mind. I'm a returning rider who has not ridden a motorbike for 20 years so am finding filtering very useful in todays congested roads. But you do get the occasional Road Womble who likes to keep you in your place.
It’s a good point about trying to fit in the gaps. It gives you time and options if you aren’t to the side of a car or worse, lorry. You have to recognise they might not see you and try for a gap, if you are alongside them you risk being sideswiped. It’s better to hang back in the gaps, especially at junctions. Also good comments about observation. You have to observe for other drivers, you aren’t easy to see so anticipate for other drivers. Help them help you, effectively.
Oooh, I love my quiet Zero. I was having a discussion this week at work with a young un with a megaphone on his 125 exhaust. I tried to point out to him, it's no good relying on people hearing you, you have to be proactive and keeping your wits about you and watching the vehicles around you, upcoming junctions, pedestrians etc. I don't really think he took it onboard...... It's up to you! 🤘
Great informative video. I particularly like it because that A610 is exactly the route i take to bike into work! Your tips are spot on - always be wary of what a driver might do, don't trust that you know what they are doing, expect the unexpected, thank those that have moved for you, etc. And I totally agree with not always going to the front of a traffic light junction - for one, someone will try & race you, secondly, you stand a high chance of "meeting" the person who comes through from the other direction on red 👍
All good advice, much appreciated. Although the speed you filter at is important, maintaining the best gear for that speed is equally paramount. The sweet spot being able to accelerate progressively without downshifting and using engine braking before use of the brakes. If I have to change up to third, I generally consider whether I should be filtering or not. Filtering is also very tiring if conducted for any length of time.
From those lower filtering speeds, engine braking will have practically no effect on stopping if you had to, like engine braking for normal emergency stopping at higher speeds would also be negligible. Totally agree that consistent slow riding with that amount of focus is tiring. Yes, 3rd gear would certainly mean filtering is unnecessary. Thanks for your comment.
Biggest one I've found is, do thank drivers that move over, but as stated in the video do it safely. I limit it to a head nod in their direction after numerous incidents of having to quickly get on the brakes cos someone decides to pull across immediately after giving a wave or thumbs up. Keep those brakes covered people!
spot on. I was told by a traffic cop to monitor the distance between the cars wheels and the white line. If its getting narrower. There coming your way. The rear end thing is when you arrive at stationary traffic. Always go at least 3 cars deep immediately if its safe. Been rear ended at 37mph. It really hurts!!!
Excellent video and totally agree with thanking people , the more we do that the better the image of motorcyclists becomes. I’m reluctant to filter when I have panniers on, always worried about clipping someone . A slim bike in traffic is just the best feeling ☺️.
Good video. I definitely always try to thank those who move over if I’m able to… same with those who I may inconvenience a little. When the gaps appear and chances of a car trying to change lanes increases - I will usually fill the gap - stops cars moving over and keeps me safer. Ready to filter again…
Great video and very informative I don’t often have to filter as am mainly a Sunday rider these days and fortunately have the option of staying away from heavy traffic, but a group of us coming back from Wales on the motorway found the traffic at a standstill we all managed to slowly travel a couple of miles to the front and can say it was great as most of the drivers moved over for us we felt like part of the emergency services 😁but it’s a bit different to filtering in moving traffic
Gaps Equal Traps Great tips. I quite enjoy filtering, finding it almost therapeutic planning the route and available landing spots. And moving into gaps to allow the boy racers to "filter" at 40mph down the A13 😮🙄
I'm the same, @@RoadcraftNottingham Filtering in the rain FTW! That will be in an upcoming video on the channel... Plenty of rain to be had from my "summer" tour of France!
I agree with what you’re doing and your filtering is really good, really smooth and safe and not coming into conflict and contact with any other motorist. But, there is a hard and fast rule, the speed you can legally filter is between 15-20mph. If it’s faster than that it’s deemed and undertaking/overtaking and therefore you’re committing a road traffic offence.
There is no such law regarding filtering speed. Can you provide me a link to this please? Also, there is no such offence as "undertaking"...if an officer considered it dangerous, it could fall under "reasonable consideration..." or "dangerous...." etc. This isn't a dig at you, by the way, Whoever you heard this from is wrong, unfortunately. I see this a lot, people blindly believing what they're told, sometimes by police believe it or not. Sometimes, it's not explained properly by the police either as they're not instructors.
I always thank people that move over for me. my filtering is done at around 15mph . if I'm making forward progress I don't feel the need filter. some people filter no matter what.
As a general comment, you are still one of the best (if not THE BEST), riding 'educator' on youtube. Excellent 'real world' tips/instructions. Even though I've been riding for 50 odd years, advanced qualified and an ex Blood Biker, I am always picking up things from your channel. As my cop examiner reminded me (after he passed me!), "every day's a school day". Ride safe. Chris
I like to filter but generally only when the traffic is near stationary or crawling. The worst thing for me is another impatient biker coming along behind and effectively tailgating me. I'll usually let them pass when a gap appears, in fact I always find a place to let any vehicle pass me if I think they are too close.
The police during a road safe course I took a few years ago told me if they see a bike filtering faster than 20mph - 25mph then they may consider that reckless motoring. So basically, if the traffic is moving faster than 25mph, stop filtering. I'm an experienced biker and I agree with them. Stay safe, ride safe.
I must admit that I don't filter as often as some would, always figure I'm in no rush and the risk isn't worth it on most of the roads I find myself using, big A roads are another matter though. I shall share this one with a friend who's just starting motorcycling, good advice as ever 👍
Very well presented, as usual. One aspect not covered (because it's a dual carriageway approaching a motorway) is filtering in built-up areas: in the latter, one of my major concerns is pedestrians walking across lines of slow-moving/ stopped vehicles (they shouldn't but they do) and passengers opening a door to get out, usually without looking.
Any filtering I do in these conditions is ultra slow just for the chance of dosy pedestrians not looking before they leap! Surprisingly to me when in Germany on the bike filtering was verboten 🤔
I commute all year around on congested city streets on my 701 SM, trying not to filter +20km/h (12 mph) faster than the traffic. Going to the front at traffic lights feels safer to me, I have better vision, less surprises (like peds crossing between cars) and less vehicles around me which is always good. Sitting between cars at the red light already got me rammed by a distracted lady driver (two of my instructors got injured similar ways after riding for 20-30 years without an accident). Never had any problems or close shaves at the front, but I always do a double, two-way life saver :) to spot red light runners in crossings.
I tend to be a little fast when filtering on long motorway queues, not so fast that I feel unsafe, I give myself time to react, observe very well, and have brakes well covered, but I should probably try to shave a few mph off.
I rarely filter. Just occasionally, if traffic is walking pace and there's a safe avenue Ill go. It only takes one vehicle to do the unexpected and you're probably in hospital. Bikers who cruise up the middle on dual carriageways at 60mph probably won't even get the option of hospital.
It certainly has its risks and as you know, speed reduced and anticipation increased = risk reduced. Thanks for your comment and hope you're well buddy. 😊
Quite a good video. All common sense. One thin yo missed it to keep an eye out in your mirrors for other riders which can be a real danger (been riding for 46 years).
They can bloody wait! 😉 😜...lol. Not so much dangerous as there's nowhere they can go really. I do move over when I see them, then let them pave the way for me. Lazy. Lol. Thanks for your comment buddy. 👍
Very well done. I personally think some noise is good. I think it’s good to use hazards as i think it helps people notice you. Each rider will have their own style. Great video. Subscribed!
Great video! As an IAM observer it’s refreshing to watch a safe, sensible, practical explanation of filtering. I have just one issue. . An electric bike, Really? . 😊
I don't always filter to the front of a queue of a roundabout as the driver at the front is more likely to be concentrating on traffic from the right, so they can get out (especially if the roundabout is busy) Filtering is a choice
I’m a new rider and I started to filter as I felt so in danger when stopped, if I’m stopped I’ll look for other motorcyclists who are filtering past to then filter out behind them. I’m still learning and I’m going on my first ride out with a few friends soon
Good info here, I only filter to the front if the lights just went to red. Also never on a roundabout. You tend to get caught in “shall I sharnt I” situation if you go to the front sometimes.
I like to thank them when I've dipped into the actual lane. I've definitely pushed in at the end of filtering for the moment and whether they have left a gap or not I thank! My bike is loud and have someone drift over at me daily.
3:52 the 3rd reason NOT to filter all the way to the front of a queue is that it is actually illegal to filter past the leading vehicle according to the Highway Code.
That only applies to Zig zag lines, leading to a crossing.. Do not pass the foremost part of the vehicle nearest the crossing that's giving way to pedestrians or the moving vehicle that's nearest the crossing. Highway Code rule 191. Feel free to sub and keep the comments coming.
Heyup, I have found that sometimes when I have moved to the front of queue at traffic lights, that some drivers will (perhaps purposely) set off on Amber ,so if I'm being a good boy , I would have cars passing me on either side , so like you say it's better to hang back a little and actually be in a lane . ps great vids
Do you feel confident filtering? What potential dangers would make you get back in the queue of traffic? Regarding using hazards whilst filtering in the UK. Check rule 116.
For me, it's the driver who is totally oblivious to you because they are too engrossed in messing about with some device or other, or, they have children on the back seat who they are constantly turning to - therefore they are distracted & you might pay the price for their distraction. Also the other danger, the driver who knows you are there but is determined to not let you pass - once observed by you, they are a known danger to avoid. If I observe a distracted driver I consciously decide to keep them in front of me where I can see them rather than immediately behind me where they could rear-end me!
I remember this question from my CBT... ALL potential dangers.... However, to actually answer the question, when the traffic starts to speed up, there's a higher risk of lane swapping, that's when I'd merge back in line.
When people use their mirrors and move over, they make me feel like Moses - parting the Red Sea (of traffic 😁) It's the most wonderful feeling to give and receive space - as on the road, so in life as well.
Im quite new and don't live in a city, I'm in the countryside I saw a video where someone was filtering and a driver came through a gap from a left turn and hit him I at the moment find it to risky to bother trying, except for overtakes
I noticed that post-pandemic driving standards were very ruduced. Car drivers were not checking mirrors or moving over for filtering bikes anywhere near as much as they did before. This has improved since, but I still feel that car drivers attention is less than it once was. I'm more cautious when filtering nowadays.
Always remember the basics what your advised on in the CBT anticipation and defensive riding. Use that when filtering. Anticipate the actions of others and have a contingency plan 👍
Just caught this one by chance, spot on message, but the bigger message placing the onus on the motorcycle rider for their safety is the standout message in your video. I do get tired of motorcyclists pinning the blame on other drivers who did things that caused this or that incident/accident, when really they should have spotted it and reacted to avoid it. Yes sounds harsh, but some of us get this, and I’ve got good friends that don’t.
The police Road craft book gave a speed of 15mph.. if the traffic is moving faster than that, don’t filter but I find it painfully slow. Another thing I’ve noticed people doing a lot is putting their hazards on when filtering, I find it dangerous. You can look in your car mirror and only see half of the bike and think they are indicating to change lane! What’s your thoughts on using them?
I personally don't use hazards when filtering. Out of interest, where does Motorcycle Roadcraft specify a speed? I don't have my copy with me, but I don't remember seeing it. I stand to be corrected. 😊
Fantastic advice, I wish I’d seen this video before I started filtering, you’d think common sense would prevail but 2 accidents later, both while filtering has led to some nasty injuries.
Where I live, what you're demonstrating is called "lane splitting" (illegal here), and "filtering" is passing between parked cars and live traffic that's not currently moving. (i.e. stopped at a red) We get away with filtering because it's super common for bicycles to do it. The same considerations about avoiding getting "doored" apply. I believe the most common reason for getting doored is that the car driver looks in the side mirror, sees it's clear, then looks down to pull out the ignition keys, and it that two seconds the cyclist has popped out from behind the car and is now in the kill zone just as the driver opens the door. Your point about the relative difference in speed between the bike and other traffic is a big one. Overdriving your ability to perceive, react, and the bike's capability to get stopped.
Yes, I've heard there are different laws in different states where you live. In the uk, there's only the term filtering, which is through slow-moving traffic. Any faster then starts a grey area regarding dangerous driving with our police but then needs proving in court. I appreciate your comments. Ride safe, Cheers from the uk.
I always thank them when they move over. Makes bikers look better & hopefully other cars will notice this & pay more attention to bikes filtering..
Yes, acknowledging and reinforcing courteous behaviour is good for everyone.
Very true. Respect goes along way both ways! A small acknowledgement also goes along way. As he mentions when some people feel annoyed by motorcyclists filtering depending on our attitude as riders will also determine the overall outcome of a situation like that.
I found filtering to be one of the most enjoyable things about having a bike, thanks for the tips!
Don't enjoy it too much. It pisses the car drivers off 😂😂
Me too,I love it! It's all about the flowwwww
If I wanted to sit in traffic I'd've bought a car
The best time to filter is on motorway. Cagers are sitting in traffic and we going normal speed 😂
Finally... A calm, relaxed instructional video which doesn't make out 1 person is wrong and 1 is right.
It's all about observation and consideration on the road, for all road users. 👍
Thanks Griff, you'll find others like this here too. I'm not one of those idiots that rages on cam for youtube views. 👍
Excellent point about the most dangerous point during filtering is when there's a gap big enough for a car to fit into. Keep your eyes peeled for those snap lane-changers!
I've been biking for over 50 years and you nailed it on this video, exactly what every rider needs to consider when filtering. Top job! Love from Leeds x
Thanks.
Nice video! I find that especially recently lorry drivers pay a lot more attention than car drivers and are very quick to give you plenty of room to pass.
As far as I’m concerned, the bad reputation lorry drivers have is quite unjustified indeed!
You'd be surprised how many lorry drivers also ride motorbikes, so they will be aware of bikes around them.
agree
Completely agree
💯 lorry drivers are some of the most respectful on the road.
Agreed, long time biker and HGV here, nice vid. 👍
Your brother here in the US. I love your style. I feel you're spot on with your knowledge. Thanks for sharing. Happy to subscribe to your channel!
Thanks Michael, should hopefully be doing another soon.
As a person who used to drive lorries, it is drummed into you during driver training ( and after through the regular CPC courses that you have to attend compulsorily to meet DVSA standards ) to continuously monitor your mirrors. The fact that you are driving a large vehicle means you have far less room available to you to manoeuvre in heavy traffic so your employment wouldn't last very long if you kept side swiping other road users.
Bus driver here, we get taught to the same standards and I can agree with everything you said. There is the issue of foreign drivers who may perhaps have different attitudes and training compared to UK drivers. Also, CPC is somewhat flawed in that you don't have to do an actual driving assessment as part of it. Thus you end up with many older drivers with "grandfather" HGV rights who don't drive to the same standards as those being trained up today.
Fully agree, and a large number of HGV drivers are also bikers in their spare time
I’ve only had a bike license for many years but during my driving lessons I was astonished at how much car drivers can see in their mirrors but just choose not to! 😅
You know when cycling. I personally find artics and the likes to be the least scary as generally seem more courteous and have a much better awareness of what's happening up the road
In Australia, it's a bit like seat belt laws. Must be used "IF FITTED".
It seems truck mirrors are an optional extra.
Good, solid tips. Nice job. There’s a stretch of dual c’way on my usual route home, often clogged and at a stand still so filtering is a skill I had to acquire. One thing I came to realise, though, is just how exhausting a couple of miles of that can be: eyes on stalks, every sense fully stretched. Recognising that, sometimes when I hit that queue, I’d bail, hang a left and take the long way home… recognising when it wasn’t working for me was, I think, also a vital skill acquired.
Yes, it's certainly more taxing than normal riding. Thanks for your comment.
You are always one "twat" away from having a very bad day.
Very much so, safe filtering needs you full concentration and can be very tiring if over a long distance, I had to do that for 20 miles after an M25 accident and another biker followed me, we stopped after and said wow that was exhausting, but safe. Great video
A very informative video for riding through traffic,I would just add that in built up areas to be alert for pedestrians walking between moving and stationary traffic.
Cyclists manoeuvring from cycle lanes and pathways without looking.
Same fast electric bicycles that can reach up to 45mph can quickly be in your own blind spot without warning.
Following another motorcycle through traffic some other road users may see them but think there’s only one bike and move back over into an area that was clear to filter previously.
Fourty years of riding and as a retired CBT Instructor I would always say to newbies and experienced riders to never get complacent about your riding ability as it can be tested very quickly at the end of your road or 500 miles away,the rider must be alert at all times.
Ride safe and have fun all.
Very good instruction here, important to remember that if drivers move to block your path, detach yourself from making it personal and find another way past. Seen a lot of bikers getting aerated when blocked, just back off and dont engage.
Ive hand my bike for 2 years now and ive learned alot of life lessons
As a returning biker after a 20 year lay-off, this is great advice; thanks! As a rider and cyclist, I tend to try to thank as much as possible. Reinforcing good behaviours when drivers display them is always a good thing.
Thank you. Your presentational technique allows cars to consider bikes and vice versa. I’m not sure that all bikers appreciate that drivers even when aware can still be surprised when a bike filters at speed. Even after a couple of decades driving the last thing you expect is someone making 3 lanes when there is only 2 and zips past you. Your demonstration and explanation shows that everyone can use the road safely if speed is appropriate to the driving conditions. There are too many road users nowadays who put their lives in others hands by not driving defensively. Thanks again for a very well presented video.
All good advice thanks. Down here in Oz the maximum speed at which we are allowed to filter is 30kph which I think is about right and fair. Any more than that is considered lane splitting. I do tend to try to go for the front if I can at the lights as it gives me a chance to spend time in clear space which is nice, before catching up with the crowd ahead. As you say, not always worth it though. A new hazzard I have found of late is the occasional EV intent on dragging me off at the lights because they can! I always make a note of that when I pull up next to someone at the front. They tend to give themselves away by creeping forward a little before the lights have changed... In any case one more precaution is to always do a right, left headcheck to ensure all cross traffic has actually stopped.
I am a new biker and have filtered only maybe a dozen times so far… But I put my hazards on and beam on recently and found many more cars noticed me and pulled over for me in some heavy tailback. This was very useful.
But yes, watch for spaces that cars will suddenly move into without signalling. Look at the front wheels and check the angle and rotation.
Do be careful in the UK as riding with hazards on in a non emergency situation is endorsable, although you're unlikely to be caught.
Thanks for that. Unaware, but I’d argue the case it draws attention to SAVE MY SKIN!
I used to commute into London daily for about 8yrs. Two things stood out on filtering for me: Use the gaps and use the lifesaver. I liked to use the gaps because I didn't want to be a static headlight in the centre of the traffic - I wanted to be moving always slightly to my left and right as gaps appeared but also to get driver's attention. And the lifesaver because, well, it's the lifesaver - it's not just a clever name...
Yep, completely agree. I even do it in my car. Even though I've got all this tech warning me etc.
What’s the lifesaver?
i believe it is the physical look over shoulder before changing direction, rather than just relying on mirrors alone @@prestonhalle9818
@@prestonhalle9818 You may know it by a different name but it is the final check over your shoulder into the space that you're about to move into. It is performed always before you move and not as you move...
@@paulelverstone8677 I got you
The other day I was filtering on my VFR 800, I've always found that if you take it easy and calm most motorists don't get that stressed, apart from Taxi drivers, behind me was a sports bike very very close who kept revving up I assumed for me to get out of his way because my bike has panniers some of the gaps were little bit tight so I was taking it easy when a gap appeared I used it so he could pass me, off he went still revving for cars to move, I stayed in that space thinking he was upsetting too many drivers and they would block me. Your vids and advise have always worked for me. Many Thanks
I'd have done the same as you. Safe riding.
I absolutely love this.
As a driver who does lots of miles and has been stuck in a fair few queues, this is fantastic.
I always say that if im at or below 10mph, I'll move over for a motorcycle. However, if I'm 20/25 or above, I'll slowly move to the right hand side to "protect" the rider coming up with any incoming traffic. Once it's clear, I'll move back over.
The major thing that annoys me is when you're going 55/60mph and a motorcycle comes steaming up, screams past and squeezes into your breaking gap.
Anyway, fantastic driving and keep safe on the cold roads 🦆👌🏻
Excellent instruction and great to see an emphasis on rider attitudes towards other road users. I have to admit that I no longer filter after a couple of aggression related incidents; stay safe all.
Thankyou.
Great video as usual, I filter when safe and always watch vehicles in front for front wheels steering into my path just in case as it suggests they may change lane. I also try not to be first at lights when filtering just in case someone runs red light across my direction of travel as it reduces risk of being T boned. Ride as if you’re invisible and ride to survive.
Another cracking video, thank you. I am paying particular attention to filtering videos to learn how best to do it and remain safe and when not to do it. Your videos have been invaluable in helping me in my first few months of bike ownership.
Thankyou and thanks for the comment.
Just keep it slow, rely on rear brake more and keep your eyes peeled, learn to predict car movement.
If remember correctly, in the 1973 edition of the UK Highway Code it actually stated a recommended maximum filtering speed of 27 mph. Yes, I was learning to drive, so had a copy. I now live in France where, filtering is only legal in certain cities and Ile de France (around Paris). The maximum filtering speed is variable depending upon the speed of the adjacent traffic up to a maximum of 50 km/h (31 mph).
Here most riders use "Le Leg"** to thank other motorists as it allows them to keep their hands on the bars while filtering. A rather sensible idea I thought as you don't usually need to grip the tank tightly with your knees when upright in a straight line.
** "Le Leg": Sticking the appropriate leg, usually the right leg, out straight from the bike (a little like the "Doctor's Dangle" but straighter) as you pass in front of the vehicle you wish to thank. (Also known as : Biker's leg gesture)
Yes I noticed this in France too and adopted it when taking your hand off the bars is dangerous
over the years ive filtered hundreds and hundreds of miles in UK, also in many European cities. I always put hazards on and high beam. Im not sure of the legality but cars do notice you. I always thank too. Never use front brake but cover rear. Cheers, good vid.
great advice.
I want to add some, based on my experience, filtering around 10 000 kms a year in Brussels and Antwerp rush hour of my total of 30 000 kms a year riding. Also based on customs and laws applied in Belgium.
- Use the hazard lights, mine, as an extra, are coupled to the Denali D2's via canbus, especially usefull in the dark; wet and cold winter months as the light of the Denali's bounces of the back of the cars in front of me, grabbing very much attention.
- Always cover the front brake lever
- Be wary of gaps in the line
- Watch the front wheels, they kind of predict the direction the cars wil be going
- Be extra carefull at exits or entries as people are going to weave a lot more in these areas.
Yes, watching the front wheels for the MickeyMouse sign. Is very obvious.
I was pleased to come across your video, as not many comment on filtering or other issues. I agree with all your comments although I do go to the front at lights if I know I have time to complete before the change. At lights it is essential to know that no one is red light running (sorry if that is obvious) I had a period when buses were running reds. If you have a powerful bike like me, I am aware I have a very short time to react. Observe and care is better than finding panic! Thanks for putting sensible safety advice out to younger riders. Filtering itself, I'm with you, keep the speed low and move over to let the young bucks pass if they speed through. It is part of the law here in Western Australia, no more 20kms I think,. Thankfully I don't have to worry about frost anymore! Just getting roasted while waiting at lights.
Absolutely, if I'm confident I won't get trapped, I'll often go to the front and get away quickly. Thanks for your kind words.
Brilliant video mate and bang on! Driver/rider respect goes along way for everyone involved :)
Very good tips. I haven't needed to do much filtering lately because I can afford to ride off-peak but I have a self-imposed speed limit of 20mph for doing it and you need to be vigilant, as you pointed out.
Totally agree about your filtering technique, no need to filter at 20 mph faster than cars doing 15 mph already , only been deliberately cut up in 50 years of motorcycling, moved across from the right to block my left filter on a slow moving dual carriage way , they’d thought they had hit me , but no my boot left a nice dent in his passenger door and I was gone . But always acknowledge bad and good drivers 😊😊👍👍
Excellent wee video, and reassuring that I do everything you advise. (Except riding an electric bike. Or riding in the middle of winter 😅).
Also, nice that you point out how many motorists are courteous & helpful - not a very fashionable thing to say, but true - and positive.
Sound advice as always, I don't have a problem filtering to the front at junctions when it is safe to do so. But I don't filter to the front at roundabouts (with or without traffic lights). If there is a spill or debris on the roundabout and your sandwiched between two lanes of cars, your options to avoid the obstacle could be limited, especially if a jack the lad thinks he'll try his hand at beating you off the mark. Plus I find in Dundee especially that many drivers have appalling lane discipline at roundabouts.
Spot on.
In the last few years I've noticed far more drivers make a positive move out of the way while I'm filtering, and I'm happy to thank them where possible. As soon as the traffic in one lane starts to move faster than the other it's time to pick the one which best suits your route.
Spot on.
Good video 👍 i ride daily for work and generally filter on m25 at the end of the day. I'm also a hgv driver and almost all are bike friendly and will generally give you a bit more space if they can, probably because truckers and bikers are the minority on the road and we have to stick together.
You've given some great advice for riders who are a little unsure about filtering. Keep up the great work and be safe bro 💪
Thanks Gordon.
I remember that comment Russ, by a lawyer on a YT video (can't recall which channel), and it certainly raised my eyebrows. Great advice you gave there on... Its not up to the other drivers to keep you safe, it's up to you 👍😊.
Great video. I totally agree with your points of view, especially when you say it's up to us to watch them, rather than the other way round.
Thanks David.
Great to hear your voice again Russ, good video, excellent points. 👍
Thank you kindly 🙏
Fully agree with everything you said except the thanking people who didn't let you in. I'm a trucker, on the road all day and one of the things that really pisses me off is people who "push in" and then say thank you as if I had any choice in the matter.
If I've seen you and you are faster than me and it's safe or sensible, I will let you in, if I don't, there's a reason that maybe you are not aware of, you may be fine and there may be no problem at all but don't thank me afterwards.
Im from the UK but live in the Philippines and I would do anything to have that much space down the middle when filtering haha. Great vid as always thank you.
Top class upload and instruction Russ. I'm so sick of of bikers that rely on the MYTH that "loud pipes saves lives" to excuse having loud exhausts.
As biker that loves filtering I will not put my safety in the hands of other road users, and that's exactly what that myth is based on, relying on other road users to hear you and HOPING they'll accommodate you. Modern cars are designed to insulate the cabin from noise, and what if the car driver is deaf?
And you're definitely right about HGV drivers, they often see us bikers long before car drivers do.
Good recap - thanks. I've been guilty on occasion of being so wrapped up in what's ahead of me that I haven't spotted a bike filtering quicker than me coming up behind. Also worth keeping an eye on what is to the left of traffic on nearside and to the right of traffic on your right - i.e. things which may cause them to change lane. You can also sometimes use their side mirrors to see the driver and whether they are obviously distracted. Not saying it's a regular thing as there's usually too much else to check and it doesn't always work, but it's another tool worth trying.
I like how you say “thank you” even when the driver of the car is not really helping you out or when you are pulling into the front of the line of cars. In Los Angeles, where I ride and drive sometimes, traffic is quite aggressive, but a wave of the hand after a lane change that was a bit close seems to always “disarm” the road rage tendency.
Spot on! I’d just like to reinforce to not filter to the head of the queue at roundabouts because the driver on your right (assuming left side driving!) will be looking only to the right for their traffic gap and will be oblivious to anything on their left.
Don’t ride as if you’re invincible, ride as if you’re invisible!
Forgive my hyperbole, but this is hands down the best motorcycle channel on yt
Very kind, thank you. 😊
I found when filtering on a motorway on my Zero DSR that it helped to use a mode with both fairly high acceleration and a lot of regenerative braking. That helped respond to changes in the traffic flow, particularly narrowing and widening gaps.
Regularly filter on my rides to work and agree with a lot of what you’re saying. One of my tricks is to put on main beam (and fog lights) just for the extra visibility.
Also I almost always filter to the front of junctions if it’s safe. Generally this gets me ahead of the traffic until the next slow down but also means you’re only dealing with the car at the front of the queue (who is most likely to see you) rather than setting off in the middle of cars who are perhaps only focused on the traffic lights and getting to the right lane.
Anything that helps bikers have a safer ride is a good watch in my mind. I'm a returning rider who has not ridden a motorbike for 20 years so am finding filtering very useful in todays congested roads. But you do get the occasional Road Womble who likes to keep you in your place.
You certainly do, part of challenge for me, keeps my mind sharp. Welcome back.
It’s a good point about trying to fit in the gaps. It gives you time and options if you aren’t to the side of a car or worse, lorry. You have to recognise they might not see you and try for a gap, if you are alongside them you risk being sideswiped. It’s better to hang back in the gaps, especially at junctions.
Also good comments about observation. You have to observe for other drivers, you aren’t easy to see so anticipate for other drivers. Help them help you, effectively.
Oooh, I love my quiet Zero. I was having a discussion this week at work with a young un with a megaphone on his 125 exhaust. I tried to point out to him, it's no good relying on people hearing you, you have to be proactive and keeping your wits about you and watching the vehicles around you, upcoming junctions, pedestrians etc. I don't really think he took it onboard......
It's up to you! 🤘
I just find loud pipes irritating now. Love how relaxing mine is.
Great informative video. I particularly like it because that A610 is exactly the route i take to bike into work! Your tips are spot on - always be wary of what a driver might do, don't trust that you know what they are doing, expect the unexpected, thank those that have moved for you, etc. And I totally agree with not always going to the front of a traffic light junction - for one, someone will try & race you, secondly, you stand a high chance of "meeting" the person who comes through from the other direction on red 👍
So many filter far too quickly, nice to see someone doing it correctly. 👍
"It's on you to watch out for them." Wise words. Thank you.
All good advice, much appreciated. Although the speed you filter at is important, maintaining the best gear for that speed is equally paramount. The sweet spot being able to accelerate progressively without downshifting and using engine braking before use of the brakes. If I have to change up to third, I generally consider whether I should be filtering or not. Filtering is also very tiring if conducted for any length of time.
From those lower filtering speeds, engine braking will have practically no effect on stopping if you had to, like engine braking for normal emergency stopping at higher speeds would also be negligible. Totally agree that consistent slow riding with that amount of focus is tiring. Yes, 3rd gear would certainly mean filtering is unnecessary. Thanks for your comment.
Biggest one I've found is, do thank drivers that move over, but as stated in the video do it safely. I limit it to a head nod in their direction after numerous incidents of having to quickly get on the brakes cos someone decides to pull across immediately after giving a wave or thumbs up. Keep those brakes covered people!
A great video. A lot of younger bikers could do with watching this and learning.
Great advice, as usual. I sometimes hear your voice in my head, when I'm riding. You're like my Jiminy Cricket. 😊
😆 Thanks. That's my legacy right there. 🙃
spot on. I was told by a traffic cop to monitor the distance between the cars wheels and the white line. If its getting narrower. There coming your way. The rear end thing is when you arrive at stationary traffic. Always go at least 3 cars deep immediately if its safe. Been rear ended at 37mph. It really hurts!!!
Thank you, I'm a "born again biker" after 20 years absence, a much appreciated video.
Thanks for watching.
Excellent video and totally agree with thanking people , the more we do that the better the image of motorcyclists becomes. I’m reluctant to filter when I have panniers on, always worried about clipping someone . A slim bike in traffic is just the best feeling ☺️.
Thanks. Yes, it's certainly important to know which parts of your bike sticks out furthest. I sometimes even fold my mirrors in on my electric bike.
Good video. I definitely always try to thank those who move over if I’m able to… same with those who I may inconvenience a little.
When the gaps appear and chances of a car trying to change lanes increases - I will usually fill the gap - stops cars moving over and keeps me safer. Ready to filter again…
Great video and very informative I don’t often have to filter as am mainly a Sunday rider these days and fortunately have the option of staying away from heavy traffic, but a group of us coming back from Wales on the motorway found the traffic at a standstill we all managed to slowly travel a couple of miles to the front and can say it was great as most of the drivers moved over for us we felt like part of the emergency services 😁but it’s a bit different to filtering in moving traffic
Thank you for sharing your experience!!!!
Gaps Equal Traps
Great tips. I quite enjoy filtering, finding it almost therapeutic planning the route and available landing spots. And moving into gaps to allow the boy racers to "filter" at 40mph down the A13 😮🙄
Filtering and riding in the rain really focuses me.
I'm the same, @@RoadcraftNottingham
Filtering in the rain FTW! That will be in an upcoming video on the channel... Plenty of rain to be had from my "summer" tour of France!
I agree with what you’re doing and your filtering is really good, really smooth and safe and not coming into conflict and contact with any other motorist.
But, there is a hard and fast rule, the speed you can legally filter is between 15-20mph. If it’s faster than that it’s deemed and undertaking/overtaking and therefore you’re committing a road traffic offence.
There is no such law regarding filtering speed. Can you provide me a link to this please? Also, there is no such offence as "undertaking"...if an officer considered it dangerous, it could fall under "reasonable consideration..." or "dangerous...." etc. This isn't a dig at you, by the way, Whoever you heard this from is wrong, unfortunately. I see this a lot, people blindly believing what they're told, sometimes by police believe it or not. Sometimes, it's not explained properly by the police either as they're not instructors.
I always thank people that move over for me. my filtering is done at around 15mph . if I'm making forward progress I don't feel the need filter.
some people filter no matter what.
Thank you for putting material like this into the public domain. I wish the IAM and their partners would do a bit more training material online.
Thanks, feel free to post this info anyway, it's all valid. I base all my training on motorcycle Roadcraft anyway
As a general comment, you are still one of the best (if not THE BEST), riding 'educator' on youtube. Excellent 'real world' tips/instructions. Even though I've been riding for 50 odd years, advanced qualified and an ex Blood Biker, I am always picking up things from your channel. As my cop examiner reminded me (after he passed me!), "every day's a school day".
Ride safe.
Chris
Thanks Chris, praise indeed.
Superb vid Russ!
Was happy to see another vid 😊
Keep em coming if you can 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Thanks, I have plans and will find the motivation 😆
@@RoadcraftNottingham yeah know what you mean. Folks really benefit from them so thank you 😊
I like to filter but generally only when the traffic is near stationary or crawling. The worst thing for me is another impatient biker coming along behind and effectively tailgating me. I'll usually let them pass when a gap appears, in fact I always find a place to let any vehicle pass me if I think they are too close.
The police during a road safe course I took a few years ago told me if they see a bike filtering faster than 20mph - 25mph then they may consider that reckless motoring. So basically, if the traffic is moving faster than 25mph, stop filtering. I'm an experienced biker and I agree with them. Stay safe, ride safe.
Yes, I'd also say that's pushing it.
I must admit that I don't filter as often as some would, always figure I'm in no rush and the risk isn't worth it on most of the roads I find myself using, big A roads are another matter though. I shall share this one with a friend who's just starting motorcycling, good advice as ever 👍
Thanks. The beauty of this is that you ride your ride and enjoy. 🙂
Very well presented, as usual. One aspect not covered (because it's a dual carriageway approaching a motorway) is filtering in built-up areas: in the latter, one of my major concerns is pedestrians walking across lines of slow-moving/ stopped vehicles (they shouldn't but they do) and passengers opening a door to get out, usually without looking.
Good point, always cover the horn and keep your eyes scanning everywhere.
Any filtering I do in these conditions is ultra slow just for the chance of dosy pedestrians not looking before they leap! Surprisingly to me when in Germany on the bike filtering was verboten 🤔
Beautiful demonstration, nice contrast to the irresponsible bs others do.
Thanks, too many angry bikers about. 😊
I commute all year around on congested city streets on my 701 SM, trying not to filter +20km/h (12 mph) faster than the traffic. Going to the front at traffic lights feels safer to me, I have better vision, less surprises (like peds crossing between cars) and less vehicles around me which is always good. Sitting between cars at the red light already got me rammed by a distracted lady driver (two of my instructors got injured similar ways after riding for 20-30 years without an accident). Never had any problems or close shaves at the front, but I always do a double, two-way life saver :) to spot red light runners in crossings.
Most truckers are considerate ,thanks truckers and all considerate Road users.I got rear ended some years back at a big roundabout.
Thanks for sharing. Hope you're ok.
@@RoadcraftNottingham Yes thanks,bent mudguard .
I tend to be a little fast when filtering on long motorway queues, not so fast that I feel unsafe, I give myself time to react, observe very well, and have brakes well covered, but I should probably try to shave a few mph off.
Self analysis is always the best way to improve. Thanks for your comment.
Filtering is an excellent way to practice slow speed skills, I find
Hi road craft Notting ham , good vid and reminder
I rarely filter. Just occasionally, if traffic is walking pace and there's a safe avenue Ill go.
It only takes one vehicle to do the unexpected and you're probably in hospital.
Bikers who cruise up the middle on dual carriageways at 60mph probably won't even get the option of hospital.
It certainly has its risks and as you know, speed reduced and anticipation increased = risk reduced. Thanks for your comment and hope you're well buddy. 😊
Quite a good video. All common sense. One thin yo missed it to keep an eye out in your mirrors for other riders which can be a real danger (been riding for 46 years).
They can bloody wait! 😉 😜...lol. Not so much dangerous as there's nowhere they can go really. I do move over when I see them, then let them pave the way for me. Lazy. Lol. Thanks for your comment buddy. 👍
Excellent tips there!
Very well done. I personally think some noise is good. I think it’s good to use hazards as i think it helps people notice you. Each rider will have their own style. Great video. Subscribed!
Thanks Adam. 😊
Good video with good advice.
Great video! As an IAM observer it’s refreshing to watch a safe, sensible, practical explanation of filtering. I have just one issue. . An electric bike, Really? . 😊
Thanks and, erm... 😆
It fits beautifully into my stable. It's relaxing, smooth and oh so fast!
I don't always filter to the front of a queue of a roundabout as the driver at the front is more likely to be concentrating on traffic from the right, so they can get out (especially if the roundabout is busy)
Filtering is a choice
I’m a new rider and I started to filter as I felt so in danger when stopped, if I’m stopped I’ll look for other motorcyclists who are filtering past to then filter out behind them. I’m still learning and I’m going on my first ride out with a few friends soon
good video thanks. I think its important to thank people...a nod of the head, a quick thumbs up or wave or indicator wobble if going faster
Good info here, I only filter to the front if the lights just went to red. Also never on a roundabout. You tend to get caught in “shall I sharnt I” situation if you go to the front sometimes.
Totally agree, thanks for your comment.
Great video and advice.👍🏻
Glad you liked it!
Thank you. Good common sense advise 🙂
I like to thank them when I've dipped into the actual lane. I've definitely pushed in at the end of filtering for the moment and whether they have left a gap or not I thank! My bike is loud and have someone drift over at me daily.
3:52 the 3rd reason NOT to filter all the way to the front of a queue is that it is actually illegal to filter past the leading vehicle according to the Highway Code.
That only applies to Zig zag lines, leading to a crossing.. Do not pass the foremost part of the vehicle nearest the crossing that's giving way to pedestrians or the moving vehicle that's nearest the crossing. Highway Code rule 191. Feel free to sub and keep the comments coming.
Heyup, I have found that sometimes when I have moved to the front of queue at traffic lights, that some drivers will (perhaps purposely) set off on Amber ,so if I'm being a good boy , I would have cars passing me on either side , so like you say it's better to hang back a little and actually be in a lane . ps great vids
Nicely summed up.
Thanks!
Do you feel confident filtering? What potential dangers would make you get back in the queue of traffic?
Regarding using hazards whilst filtering in the UK. Check rule 116.
For me, it's the driver who is totally oblivious to you because they are too engrossed in messing about with some device or other, or, they have children on the back seat who they are constantly turning to - therefore they are distracted & you might pay the price for their distraction. Also the other danger, the driver who knows you are there but is determined to not let you pass - once observed by you, they are a known danger to avoid. If I observe a distracted driver I consciously decide to keep them in front of me where I can see them rather than immediately behind me where they could rear-end me!
I remember this question from my CBT... ALL potential dangers.... However, to actually answer the question, when the traffic starts to speed up, there's a higher risk of lane swapping, that's when I'd merge back in line.
When people use their mirrors and move over, they make me feel like Moses - parting the Red Sea (of traffic 😁) It's the most wonderful feeling to give and receive space - as on the road, so in life as well.
Im quite new and don't live in a city, I'm in the countryside
I saw a video where someone was filtering and a driver came through a gap from a left turn and hit him
I at the moment find it to risky to bother trying, except for overtakes
I noticed that post-pandemic driving standards were very ruduced. Car drivers were not checking mirrors or moving over for filtering bikes anywhere near as much as they did before. This has improved since, but I still feel that car drivers attention is less than it once was. I'm more cautious when filtering nowadays.
Always remember the basics what your advised on in the CBT anticipation and defensive riding. Use that when filtering. Anticipate the actions of others and have a contingency plan 👍
Just caught this one by chance, spot on message, but the bigger message placing the onus on the motorcycle rider for their safety is the standout message in your video. I do get tired of motorcyclists pinning the blame on other drivers who did things that caused this or that incident/accident, when really they should have spotted it and reacted to avoid it. Yes sounds harsh, but some of us get this, and I’ve got good friends that don’t.
The police Road craft book gave a speed of 15mph.. if the traffic is moving faster than that, don’t filter but I find it painfully slow. Another thing I’ve noticed people doing a lot is putting their hazards on when filtering, I find it dangerous. You can look in your car mirror and only see half of the bike and think they are indicating to change lane! What’s your thoughts on using them?
I personally don't use hazards when filtering. Out of interest, where does Motorcycle Roadcraft specify a speed? I don't have my copy with me, but I don't remember seeing it. I stand to be corrected. 😊
An exhaust that can be heard saves lives. No doubt about it.
Fantastic advice, I wish I’d seen this video before I started filtering, you’d think common sense would prevail but 2 accidents later, both while filtering has led to some nasty injuries.
Sorry to hear that. Thanks for watching.
Where I live, what you're demonstrating is called "lane splitting" (illegal here), and "filtering" is passing between parked cars and live traffic that's not currently moving. (i.e. stopped at a red)
We get away with filtering because it's super common for bicycles to do it. The same considerations about avoiding getting "doored" apply.
I believe the most common reason for getting doored is that the car driver looks in the side mirror, sees it's clear, then looks down to pull out the ignition keys, and it that two seconds the cyclist has popped out from behind the car and is now in the kill zone just as the driver opens the door.
Your point about the relative difference in speed between the bike and other traffic is a big one. Overdriving your ability to perceive, react, and the bike's capability to get stopped.
Yes, I've heard there are different laws in different states where you live. In the uk, there's only the term filtering, which is through slow-moving traffic. Any faster then starts a grey area regarding dangerous driving with our police but then needs proving in court. I appreciate your comments. Ride safe, Cheers from the uk.