Very interesting take on Josh Downs. Have not once thought about Pittman losing value or significant targets. Idk how AD Mitchell is gonna play into all this tho
Seems a bit strange, why draft Mitchell not to use him? Downs isn't going to have everything to himself. Plus is Richardson as good a passer as Minshew, he's also going to run more.
@@CA_I yeah I’m out on Downs personally. I’ll take him but it’s gotta be a great value in a draft. If everyone is healthy he doesn’t have a clear path to production at all
Ik it seems like he can’t really do much with the other guys there, but good players command targets maybe it eats into Pittman a little here, AD and the other WRs a little there - Downs will get his 100-120 next year I’ll put my name on that
i dont think teams ever draft a WR with targets in mind. But rather to fill a specific role.. which AD mitchell should replace Alec Pierces(who was horrible) role as the deep threat
I traded a 1.10-1.12 area 2025 1st for Jake Ferguson and his 2025 second in a 1pt TEP to the heaviest rebuilder with a chance for his pick to be 2.01. So essentially moved back 3-5 spots in the draft and was able to pick up Ferguson on top of it. Was so stoked.
Going into my 3rd season of playing dynasty (Our startup was 2022). I've got Zay, Olave, Waddle, Christian Watson, and Josh Palmer. Super excited about the next 3-4 seasons at WR 😊
I listen to a lot of fantasy podcasts and the one rookie I feel like everyone is sleeping on and not mentioning is Louis Rees-Zammit….this guy is a legit beast! He lands with KC and Andy Reid and could get the beloved rb/wr designation….if this kid hits he could hit big!!!
Sure but he’s a UDFA, worth a taxi squad stash but they also have Carson Steele and Emani Bailey as UDFAs there at RB, not really concerned for Pachecos sake
Huge fan of Polk! Actually traded Kupp this off-season for the 2.04 in my 1QB 10-team home league to grab Polk with the pick. Afterwards bought Maye 1:1 for Scary Terry (Maye underrated in my league, had slipped to the guy's 3.05 pick) so I could have that NE stack. Anyway, great video as always man!
Want to hear a savvy way I got Pacheco? Traded my 25 1st which should be 1.10 at worst next year and a 25 late 3rd for Pacheco and a 25 2nd which should be the 2.01 or 2.02, especially with me taking Pacheco off his team. So i see it as I move back in next years draft 2-5 spots and i get Pacheco for a 3rd. He sees it as he got a 1st for him and a 2nd / 3rd round swap and thats how I sold it to him. 4D chess? 😉
@@orland0pe yeah I wouldn't sit back and do nothing. My team is loaded and I have 5 1sts the next 2 years to counter that. I wouldn't trade my own away otherwise to account for injury
I traded a 2023 1st rd pick for Pacheco his rookie season lol. Got absolutely clowned at the time & rightfully so. But sometimes when you see the vision, you gotta strike 💪🏽. That pick probably ended up being Bryce Young or AR5. But when you know how to find sleepers in later rounds it doesn’t matter. Grabbed Puka & Tank last year & had QB1 production from Howell which I got in the 20th round of startup draft
That's tough, I'd say that DJ has the clearer path to a big performance but given that he has a rookie QB and Odunze + Keenan added it's very possible the answer is Flowers
Wanting to stack burrow with chase. The other owner is happy to take herbert but wants a WR swap to upgrade. My WRs are chase, Puka, nabers, aiyuk, Adams, Moore, Ladd. His, AJ Brown, nico, flowers, pickens. Was thinking offering him Moore and flowers. What do you think I should go with?
I love my some Zay but I'm fairness to olave and Wilson, Zay had 850 yards, olave had over 1000 and Wilson 1100 so I think that plus the prospect profile and draft capital is what is causing the difference in how they're viewed. Just speculating
Which would u have rather done ? 16 team PPR 1.5 TE 1 QB IDP league - you get Marvin Harrison you give up Bowers, 2.04, 3.08, 4.04 OR instead of getting Harrison you trade Bowers for Zay Flowers, Ladd and 2 future 1st ?
How many players do you start? If shallow format (start 8-9) Ill take Marvin. That package for Bowers looks good too depending on how much flexibility do you realistically have with those future 1sts considering it’s 1QB and 16 team. Most likely acquiring Marvin is the better deal imo.
@@FantasyStockExchange the Pacheco owner wants alot more for Pacheco than Addison. He has Etienne and McCaffrey as well and is saying Pacheco is the cheapest out of the 3 too
Always feels good offloading and then buying back, sold Dobbins for a 1st in one league last year and got him as a throw in for basically a 3rd rounder of value post injury later that season
I traded Pacheco last season when i was tanking and ended up turning him into Xavier worthy and jt Sanders. Also traded wicks and Musgrave to grab Jaylen wright. I have laporta and wicks likely would be my 6th to 8th wr
The problem with Wicks and Reed is that they are two separate players and you never know when to start either of them (you could add Watson to this too). So classifying them together is kind of ..... misleading? cheating? not really helpful? I don't know how to classify it, but putting both together just seems off.
I think we will know at some point what their roles are, how to classify them (Who's the #1, #2, etc.) It's just that we don't know yet. However, at their current price points both are decent bets. I get your point but I'm not saying go and buy both on the same team and have a headache on Sundays. Maybe buy wicks in one league, Reed in another type of thing
I traded Rhamondre for McLaurin yesterday. Whoops 😅...get your point here though, no reason he shouldn't produce pretty well if he stays healthy. Just concerned about the RB rookie class next year looking pretty good so trying to move off a guy in the last year of his contract. Took Brooks and Wright in my rookie draft.
I feel you, but you also run the risk that RBs in their final contract year get insane touch volume and usually produce because they want that $$ next year
Would you trade a 2025 2nd and 3rd for Rhamondre? I’m a “frisky” team right now. 14 team SF 0.5 PPR Start 9, my starting lineup is Burrow and Purdy, Najee and no solidified RB2, Ceedee, Waddle, MHJ, Nabers, and Hockenson. I have a good amount of draft capital that I could definitely try to spring for Breece Hall if that manager decides to tank but it’s not a guarantee he’ll be available. Thoughts?
Flowers already hit his ceiling and thats with Andrews injured as much as he was. You're kidding yourself if you think Lamar (threw 1 TD or less in more than half of his games) Jackson can produce anything more for Zay to be a WR2 or higher in fantasy.
I traded mcbride, reed and myles murphy for d smith, kmet, sanborn and tulipolatu. Do you think that was a good trade? Its a 20 team league. 1qb 1rb 3wr 1te 2flx 1k 2dl 2lb 2dp 2idp... i got adopted a team and have a lot of work to do. Drafted worthy 5th in the rookie draft.
I was offered rhamondre stevenson, jarome ford, 25'2nd and 4th for DK, I also think he'd do a similar deal maybe less picks for Hollywood brown. Is either of these deals solid for me? 10 team 1 QB
definitely not value enough for DK. if you’re not a contender i might consider it for hollywood. both of those rbs do not have future. you’d only consider this if these picks are relatively high or you need running backs super badly and you can contend
Im getting an offer to send off my Pittman to receive Jayden Reed and a 2025 late 2. I might counter to change the late 2 into a early 2 or even push for a late 1… What do you think? Especially with your comments on Pittman and Downs. For more context - Im a contender, and i also have strong WR room w Evans CeeDee AmonRa and Diontae so I dont ‘need’ Reed to blow up asap.
christian watson, if healthy, is gonna see the most targets, snaps, routes and production in Green Bay. wouldn't trade him straight up for any other GB pass catcher. game breakers win titles. the upside is too tantalizing to pass up
I agree he has the highest upside and it's fairly close between him and Reed but he's gotta stay healthy and hope last year didn't stunt his develop some
Kupp missed a lot of time last year, Pukas great but I don’t think it’s a guarantee he crushes & I was specifically referring to his redraft adp when I said that not his dynasty ranking
@jamesbaron3775 sounds like a Taco League. McBride wasn't dropped in any of my 32 dynasty leagues. Nice grab tho! I have like 10 shares of McBride from startups where I grabbed him in like rounds 12-14
@@ChronicDankies. He was dropped last season at the start of the season because have roster and positional limits and the owner couldn’t keep him due to this. He could not trade him either so he had to get rid of him or not be able to set lineups/make transactions. I scooped him up as soon as he was dropped last year.
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Hearing bush talk nicely about a cowboys player for a change was refreshing, didn’t have to make the case myself ;)
Danny just finds cowboys players anywhere
Thanks for giving Flowers his Flowers
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Very interesting take on Josh Downs. Have not once thought about Pittman losing value or significant targets. Idk how AD Mitchell is gonna play into all this tho
Seems a bit strange, why draft Mitchell not to use him? Downs isn't going to have everything to himself. Plus is Richardson as good a passer as Minshew, he's also going to run more.
@@CA_I yeah I’m out on Downs personally. I’ll take him but it’s gotta be a great value in a draft. If everyone is healthy he doesn’t have a clear path to production at all
Ik it seems like he can’t really do much with the other guys there, but good players command targets maybe it eats into Pittman a little here, AD and the other WRs a little there - Downs will get his 100-120 next year I’ll put my name on that
@@FantasyStockExchange I like the confidence
i dont think teams ever draft a WR with targets in mind. But rather to fill a specific role.. which AD mitchell should replace Alec Pierces(who was horrible) role as the deep threat
I traded a 1.10-1.12 area 2025 1st for Jake Ferguson and his 2025 second in a 1pt TEP to the heaviest rebuilder with a chance for his pick to be 2.01. So essentially moved back 3-5 spots in the draft and was able to pick up Ferguson on top of it. Was so stoked.
Going into my 3rd season of playing dynasty (Our startup was 2022).
I've got Zay, Olave, Waddle, Christian Watson, and Josh Palmer.
Super excited about the next 3-4 seasons at WR 😊
Yeh not bad, maybe one more stud short of an excellent core tho
I listen to a lot of fantasy podcasts and the one rookie I feel like everyone is sleeping on and not mentioning is Louis Rees-Zammit….this guy is a legit beast! He lands with KC and Andy Reid and could get the beloved rb/wr designation….if this kid hits he could hit big!!!
Sure but he’s a UDFA, worth a taxi squad stash but they also have Carson Steele and Emani Bailey as UDFAs there at RB, not really concerned for Pachecos sake
Huge fan of Polk! Actually traded Kupp this off-season for the 2.04 in my 1QB 10-team home league to grab Polk with the pick.
Afterwards bought Maye 1:1 for Scary Terry (Maye underrated in my league, had slipped to the guy's 3.05 pick) so I could have that NE stack. Anyway, great video as always man!
Want to hear a savvy way I got Pacheco? Traded my 25 1st which should be 1.10 at worst next year and a 25 late 3rd for Pacheco and a 25 2nd which should be the 2.01 or 2.02, especially with me taking Pacheco off his team. So i see it as I move back in next years draft 2-5 spots and i get Pacheco for a 3rd. He sees it as he got a 1st for him and a 2nd / 3rd round swap and thats how I sold it to him. 4D chess? 😉
Sounds good until you potentially get the injury bug and he ends up with the 1.01
@@orland0pe yeah I wouldn't sit back and do nothing. My team is loaded and I have 5 1sts the next 2 years to counter that. I wouldn't trade my own away otherwise to account for injury
I traded a 2023 1st rd pick for Pacheco his rookie season lol. Got absolutely clowned at the time & rightfully so. But sometimes when you see the vision, you gotta strike 💪🏽. That pick probably ended up being Bryce Young or AR5. But when you know how to find sleepers in later rounds it doesn’t matter. Grabbed Puka & Tank last year & had QB1 production from Howell which I got in the 20th round of startup draft
Yeah i had this logic last year and my “late” 1st round pick ended up 1.04 due to injuries
@@rb2322 could happen but my team is so deep that I'm not too worried
Who do you think will have the better year? Flowers or DJ Moore
That's tough, I'd say that DJ has the clearer path to a big performance but given that he has a rookie QB and Odunze + Keenan added it's very possible the answer is Flowers
Wanting to stack burrow with chase. The other owner is happy to take herbert but wants a WR swap to upgrade. My WRs are chase, Puka, nabers, aiyuk, Adams, Moore, Ladd. His, AJ Brown, nico, flowers, pickens. Was thinking offering him Moore and flowers. What do you think I should go with?
Flowers also averaged 20 points for fantasy his last five games
Im in a very hard rebuild. Starting reed at WR2 and Wicks at Superflex. Do you see value in keeping both long term, or should i move off one of them?
As a Ravens fan who holds Zay, I am very happy
Yessir!
I love my some Zay but I'm fairness to olave and Wilson, Zay had 850 yards, olave had over 1000 and Wilson 1100 so I think that plus the prospect profile and draft capital is what is causing the difference in how they're viewed. Just speculating
He had 1016 including playoffs my mistake, but still high level production regardless
Zay gets open has hands and can rip big gains with his quickness. Dont over pay but hes gonna get his
Yessir!
Which would u have rather done ? 16 team PPR 1.5 TE 1 QB IDP league - you get Marvin Harrison you give up Bowers, 2.04, 3.08, 4.04 OR instead of getting Harrison you trade Bowers for Zay Flowers, Ladd and 2 future 1st ?
How many players do you start? If shallow format (start 8-9) Ill take Marvin. That package for Bowers looks good too depending on how much flexibility do you realistically have with those future 1sts considering it’s 1QB and 16 team.
Most likely acquiring Marvin is the better deal imo.
What would you offer for Pacheco along with Jordan Addison for him?
I think those guys are about equal
@@FantasyStockExchange the Pacheco owner wants alot more for Pacheco than Addison. He has Etienne and McCaffrey as well and is saying Pacheco is the cheapest out of the 3 too
Sold rhamondre before the patriots signed Zeke for a late first. Got him in another league for practically nothing. Feeling good about this szn
Always feels good offloading and then buying back, sold Dobbins for a 1st in one league last year and got him as a throw in for basically a 3rd rounder of value post injury later that season
I traded Pacheco last season when i was tanking and ended up turning him into Xavier worthy and jt Sanders. Also traded wicks and Musgrave to grab Jaylen wright. I have laporta and wicks likely would be my 6th to 8th wr
The problem with Wicks and Reed is that they are two separate players and you never know when to start either of them (you could add Watson to this too). So classifying them together is kind of ..... misleading? cheating? not really helpful? I don't know how to classify it, but putting both together just seems off.
I think we will know at some point what their roles are, how to classify them (Who's the #1, #2, etc.) It's just that we don't know yet. However, at their current price points both are decent bets. I get your point but I'm not saying go and buy both on the same team and have a headache on Sundays. Maybe buy wicks in one league, Reed in another type of thing
Drafted Flowers 8 last year and Reed at 22👍🏻
Let’s goo!
10 team, 1QB, PPR.
WRs
AJ
Rice
Olave
Higgins
Kirk
Should I be looking to package 2 guys to maybe tier up?
1.04 zay flowers and aiyuk for Jettas??
That's a little too much to give up imo
What is the most you’d trade for Rhomondre Stevenson? The 2.07 + ?
an upside WR or RB on my bench (i.e like Dontayvion Wicks, Jahan Dotson, Khalil Shakir) or I'd be okay going up to the 2.07 + a 3rd
@@FantasyStockExchange thank you!
Would you trade Diontae Johnson for Rhamondre? Also Tank Dell or Zay?
Yes and Zay
I traded Rhamondre for McLaurin yesterday. Whoops 😅...get your point here though, no reason he shouldn't produce pretty well if he stays healthy. Just concerned about the RB rookie class next year looking pretty good so trying to move off a guy in the last year of his contract. Took Brooks and Wright in my rookie draft.
I feel you, but you also run the risk that RBs in their final contract year get insane touch volume and usually produce because they want that $$ next year
What do you think I can get along with Josh Downs if I traded Jordan Addison?
I'd hope for a 2nd at least
@@FantasyStockExchange thank you!
Would you trade a 2025 2nd and 3rd for Rhamondre? I’m a “frisky” team right now. 14 team SF 0.5 PPR Start 9, my starting lineup is Burrow and Purdy, Najee and no solidified RB2, Ceedee, Waddle, MHJ, Nabers, and Hockenson. I have a good amount of draft capital that I could definitely try to spring for Breece Hall if that manager decides to tank but it’s not a guarantee he’ll be available. Thoughts?
excellent content as always!
Much appreciated!
Would you trade bowers for zay flowers? I have trey McBride as well.
Meh, I'd probably want a smidge more but I think that's a half decent return
Cmon, dude, you didn't give us nearly enough info to answer your question. How many league menbers? How many roster spots are you starting? Is it TEP?
traded zay and hockenson for laporta did i take an L?
Should I trade away Pacheco and dj moore for Olave?? Superflex
Honestly Id want someone better than Olave for those two
@@FantasyStockExchange which guys should I be targeting?
Is Jayden Reed your WR26 or WR35?
I tried trading for Kupp today in a 10 team superflex league. The guy wanted the 2.02 and 2.07 for him
Not a terrible deal if you're competing but I like the talent available at 2.02 better
@@FantasyStockExchange me too. I was thinking about Benson there at the 2.02
Flowers already hit his ceiling and thats with Andrews injured as much as he was. You're kidding yourself if you think Lamar (threw 1 TD or less in more than half of his games) Jackson can produce anything more for Zay to be a WR2 or higher in fantasy.
I traded mcbride, reed and myles murphy for d smith, kmet, sanborn and tulipolatu. Do you think that was a good trade? Its a 20 team league. 1qb 1rb 3wr 1te 2flx 1k 2dl 2lb 2dp 2idp... i got adopted a team and have a lot of work to do. Drafted worthy 5th in the rookie draft.
I was offered rhamondre stevenson, jarome ford, 25'2nd and 4th for DK, I also think he'd do a similar deal maybe less picks for Hollywood brown. Is either of these deals solid for me? 10 team 1 QB
definitely not value enough for DK. if you’re not a contender i might consider it for hollywood. both of those rbs do not have future. you’d only consider this if these picks are relatively high or you need running backs super badly and you can contend
So Reed is your wr36?
He was my WR35 he’s now inside my top 28
Ya. Was flipped on the graphic...
Im getting an offer to send off my Pittman to receive Jayden Reed and a 2025 late 2. I might counter to change the late 2 into a early 2 or even push for a late 1…
What do you think? Especially with your comments on Pittman and Downs.
For more context - Im a contender, and i also have strong WR room w Evans CeeDee AmonRa and Diontae so I dont ‘need’ Reed to blow up asap.
Wicks or Jakobi Meyers?
I prefer Wicks in any kinda rebuild, but in deeper competitive leagues I'd be fine just rolling with a solid producer like Meyers
Great content. Although you may be a little low Gibson, He's overall more talented than Stevenson.
christian watson, if healthy, is gonna see the most targets, snaps, routes and production in Green Bay. wouldn't trade him straight up for any other GB pass catcher. game breakers win titles. the upside is too tantalizing to pass up
I agree he has the highest upside and it's fairly close between him and Reed but he's gotta stay healthy and hope last year didn't stunt his develop some
Puka WR11? Lol next
Kupp missed a lot of time last year, Pukas great but I don’t think it’s a guarantee he crushes & I was specifically referring to his redraft adp when I said that not his dynasty ranking
Doubs proved why he is the guy in the playoffs.
All 4 of these guys have ability but that was one game
Nah buddy, he's their 3rd or 4th best WR. One game means nothing.
If Josh downs went againe cb1s his man coverage success rate would have been worse
Possibly but winning is winning
Did u forget about me lol
I did in fact
Trade Flowers and Dak for Nabers and a 2025 second in a Superflex PPR league
Probably a reasonable deal, ideally I'd want a little more given that you're letting a QB go but if you have depth I'm fine buying Nabers for that
@@FantasyStockExchange I have Allen, Kyler, Maye and McCarthy at QB. I think pretty set there.
baker>polk
Disagree, thought Polk was the better prospect and 37th overall pick capital speaks a lot, still like Baker though
Stop it, puka is twice the wr flowers is.
I never said he wasn’t better, I was quoting harmons work
mcbride better
McBride is better than Ferguson yes… but I’ll take the 8 round discount
Real articulated and thoughtful response you got here bud😂
@@FantasyStockExchangeDon’t need the 8 round discount when you picked up McBride off waivers last year at the beginning of the season. Lol
@jamesbaron3775 sounds like a Taco League. McBride wasn't dropped in any of my 32 dynasty leagues. Nice grab tho! I have like 10 shares of McBride from startups where I grabbed him in like rounds 12-14
@@ChronicDankies. He was dropped last season at the start of the season because have roster and positional limits and the owner couldn’t keep him due to this. He could not trade him either so he had to get rid of him or not be able to set lineups/make transactions. I scooped him up as soon as he was dropped last year.