Very helpful video! I noticed that you didn't use salt as many do, maybe they do not realize or know that if you do use it, the ground will be too salty for anything else to grow. Another thing we need to be careful about is not spraying this on or near cement or concrete because it will damage or dissolve it.
Yeah, I leave salt out of my recipe. The acidity does not harm to my already acid Piedmont soil and the soap will break down and wash away. But I don't want any long-term buildup of salt in my soil. An ancient warfare technique to destroy an enemy long-term was to salt their farmland.
I use the same brand of vinegar from HD. I do dilute though, down to 15%, because at $20/gal its not cheap. On sunny days the 15% kills within an hour, but even cooler overcast days the leaves dry up after a day or so.
I used a household white vinegar / water mix and a little soap to make it penetrate better and basically drowned a ton of moss with it. Stone dead in a few days, super easy to power wash away. But the vinegar didn't go anywhere so when it rained the runoff hit the lawn from the asphalt I had treated and turned the edge a little brown-ish. So I went back and poured some bicarbonate/water over top to neutralize what remained, not sure if that worked but can't hurt I guess... I'll trade a few centimeters of lawn temporarily for not having a bunch of moss all over the place.
This is a good video. I used to develop and print B&W film and photo shops sold glacial Acetic acid. It is basically 90% so it got diluted to about 15% or you could get premixed stop bath. I never wore gloves with 15% but in photography class some kids had issues so they wore gloves. 30% would definitely require protection on eyes and skin. Don't breathe the mist. BTW, I ran out of stop bath and I used 5% vinegar. It worked but the emulsion on the paper took longer to harden. Never tried in on film because I didn't want to risk scratching the negatives.But I digress.
Seems like the surveilance works. Me and the neighbour treated the yard with vinegar yesterday, and today, this pops up 😂 Just rememer to use tight-fitting goggles when filling the pump, spraying and emptying the pump. Vinegar gan really hurt your eyes. If you get vinegar in your eyes, flush with plenty of clean water, and call the ER.
Yes, the spray must ONLY contact the foliage of the weeds you want to suppress or kill. I would recommend doing several "light" sprays over several days. It is critical NOT to get the vinegar on the blueberry plant. Blueberries also have a shallow root system. Again, this is why I would do several "light" applications rather than a heavier dosing. Be careful with this!
Take care when using such concentrated vinegar to not get it on your hands and then accidentally get those hands near your eyes, perhaps to wipe away sweat.
Regarding the shade cloth on your greenhouse. I had the same problem with my greenhouse overheating and I used WHITE 50% shade cloth and it worked well. The fact that you used black shade cloth might be the reason that it did not reduce the temperature as the black would absorb the heat and conduct it to the inside.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm Thank you. Oddly enough, I just bought this one. The man at Lowes told me it could handle vinegar but my other one clogged because of the salt.
Very interesting and lots of action video. Good, Very little face time. Good narrative. Careful not to fall into the and -um-ah trap. It is better to have a pause. More please.
Can this be used around the edge of a pond with fish in it? An invasive plant is trying to take over our pond. Think it was transported via birds from a local lake. Will the vinegar harm the fish?
Great question! Short answer is, I have no idea. I would avoid getting the vinegar in the water until I was sure. On the other hand, water dilutes vinegar. So perhaps depending on the size of the pond may determine how much vinegar you could use.
My pump-up sprayer is small, without an extension wand. I don’t think I want to risk spraying 30% vinegar until I find something that gets the spray farther away from my face. I do have a siphon sprayer but it’s not that long and a little cumbersome. Any suggestions? Those big sprayers can be pretty costly. Thanks for the video.
Great question! Thank you. You can get a smaller quart or two quart pump sprayer from your local gardening center. They are about $10-$12 here in Texas.
I've been using 45% vinegar to take out English ivy and poison ivy! I do add a tablespoon of liquid soap as an emulsifier, no salt. Safety goggles and gloves are a must! And you are right about mid day spraying, although I find the wind is calmer in th morning. It's just so satisfying to see crispy ivy!
Cut a small section from the ivy stems in a few places, and just wet the exposed stem with 1:4 glyphosate (easy to apply with a trigger spray). It takes 30 seconds to do ... any time of day, as long as rain isn't imminent. So quick and easy ... and uses a teaspoon of chemical, if that.
@@JoeBlow-zr2ru I like your idea! Good way to get it into the ivy without dousing it. Thank you! Currently trying to rent goats for a day...but may use your suggestion afterwards!👍🏻
No, soap will not pollute the soil. Use a natural soap if possible. Wash the sprayer out with clean water after using vinegar. Do not leave the vinegar in the sprayer.
As someone who sells awnings and shade products, the reason you are not getting any reduced heat from your shade cloth is because it is BLACK. This is a common mistake most people make. Does it SHADE? yes, Does it attract HEAT? YES. Shade and Heat Protection are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. You needed to get a WHITE Shade Cloth. We find this in the RV industry, people get so hot in their RV's so they buy these $$$ front windshield "shades" and of course they get black,,,,,,,,,,,,,then cannot understand why their RV is even hotter.
It is as important that the shade should be elevated above the greenhouse. Whatever color the shade, it will be struck by the sun. An air gap reduces the efficiency of the transfer of heat from the shade to the greenhouse. I'm sure he'd have better results by just raising the shade to make an air gap. Direct contact is allowing heat transmission by conduction. A white shade would help by reflecting some heat, but would also be more effective if raised, by preventing heat conduction. Air is an insulator, as anyone knows who is familiar with how outdoor clothing and sleeping bags are made (and double-pane windows). The idea is to impede the transmission of heat.
Say rather that black objects absorb more solar energy than do white ones, thereby becoming hotter. There is no mechanism by which anything black "attracts" heat.
I watched your video nearly a year ago and lost your channel. So...Thinking I remembered correctly how you made and used the vinegar. I thought wrong - bought 40% vinegar. I am wondering, could I cut this with water to make it safer? I hope you see my question and are able to get back to me a.s.a.p. My neighbor has his entire back yard covered with Japanese hops (Humulus japonicus) among prolific weeds and he won't do anything about it. So I want to spray along the property line and where they have made it into our grass (no vegetable or garden near the area). Digging them up is impossible because if you leave a 1/2 inch of root, within a week if is a foot tall. Sort of like Kudgu in the south. I need your input please. Thank you in advance!
Glad you found us again! Yes, you can dilute the 40% down as much as 50%. In this case, it would also be helpful if you could cover the area after you spray it with black plastic silage tarp type material, a tarp or cardboard. This will take away the light source and overheat the roots in the soil.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm Oh, my goodness! I never hoped you would get back to me in such a timely fashion. Thank you so much - weather looks sunny and little wind a couple of days next week. Will try to update you and your channel how successful it was. Have a wonderful Father's Day!
You mention flower beds. I have some nascent weeds in my tulip bed. I should only spray the weed, if needed, and not the whole bed, correct? This will kill my tulips if applied to them, yes?
You must be extremely careful not to get the vinegar on your tulips. Vinegar kills the foliage by burning the leaves. Stubborn weeds may take more than one treatment.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm thank you! Can I plant in places after I've killed the weeds with the vinegar? I want to plant roses along my front fence but first was going to treat with the vinegar to kill the weeds that currently reside there.
@@ksquard72 Yes. We normally wait a few days for the weeds to die and for the vinegar to dissipate. We clean out the dead weeds, work the soil, add our amendments and care on.
Don’t dilute the vinegar. As he mentioned,the dilution from dew reduces the killing effect. As it breaks down it becomes fertilizer;an advantage over herbicides.
Not in our experience. The acidity seems to dissipate quickly. We are also not soaking the soil with it. The target is the foliage of the plants/weeds we want to knock down. Thanks for watching!
Can you explain the logic of spraying the vinegar on a hot sunny day? I thought it would be good to do it when the sun wasn't out so that the acid can really penetrate the leaves and do its work unlike in harsh sun where it's evaporated quickly.
I tried vinegar/soap/water mixture on our gravel driveway. It didnt really work very well to control the weeds. but then we used cooking vinegar. I'll have to look for the 30% vinegar. didnt know it existed
Don't dilute it with water. And, it has to be at least 20% vinegar. We get it at a farm store called Atwoods here in north Texas. We use it on our driveway as well. Be sure it is a hot sunny day and dry for best results.
@@BunnyLang 20% stronger would be 6% vinegar, so you're using cleaning vinegar? Well that makes sense now. I have some 9% vinegar. I guess that's 80% stronger than regular white vinegar. Still a far cry from horticultural vinegar, which is at least 20%.
@@BrilloHead The reason I like it is because you only need 1/2 cup to a gallon of water, so it saves a lot of money. I bought a 64 oz bottle for about $3.00 where just the regular gal of white vinegar was almost $4.00. I use it only for weeds, tho, it certainly is Not a food condiment.
No doubt 30% works. Ive been using standard white vinegar (5-6% acidic) with dish soap and salt and it is very effective. been warned 30% can burn skin or dangerous if overspray is inhaled or hits eyes. But regular vinegar is now hard to find. Considering 30% diluted by half or more. Do you think that will work?
@@katetremont8918 Epson salt is magnesium. It is not needed unless your soil is low in magnesium. Use Epson salt as a fertilizer and follow the directions on the bag/box.
Good question. We really don't know. We don't have any pets, just livestock. And, we have not used it in our livestock areas. The vapors dissipate quickly after application and the liquid dries quickly in the hot sun.
If I spray vinegar to kill weeds and then want to plant into that space, do I have to wait to plant? In particular, I'm looking to plant snap peas. Thanks!
I would wait a day or two just to let the vinegar dissipate. I have not done the soil testing but I would think it would change the pH at least temporarily. In our experience it evaporates quickly.
True. The salt will kill weeds but it will also kill the soil so that area won’t grow anything until the salt is gone and the biology returns. Just depends on where it’s being used.
Does anyone know if I can spray this whete my raised bed (bout 8" high) meets the wood chips? Is that too close to my raised beds to do it right there?
I used some of this on my parking lot at my church and it melted the little rubber diaphragm inside the sprayer that keeps the pressure inside the bottle and all of that vinegar started pouring out the top. Have you never had a problem like that? If so is there some way you fix that problem
Wow! Sorry but no. We have used several different pump sprayers without issue. We pour any remaining vinegar back into the original container and wash the sprayers after each use.
So I figured out that if you get the very cheapest sprayer at Walmart it will not hold up to the acidity of the 30% vinegar but if you get a sprayer that is specifically made for spraying acid it's no problem. I'm sure some sprayers that are not specifically made for acid will work also but it's a Gamble. The acid started to warp the little diaphragm that keeps the pressure inside the container
*How much 💦 & dish soap to dilute 30% vinegar? I use gallon container; pour in 32 Oz spray bottle. I do small areas per application. * Is it safe; any tips? - a screen separates weed (rock) area, from inground pool & cement patio?
We use about a tablespoon of Dr. Bonner Castile soap per gallon of water. The soap helps the vinegar to adhere. Do not get the vinegar on your above ground pool. The vinegar is corrosive to metal and plastic/vinyl.
The sun shade you have on your green house is black & so is the plastic you have around the base of your plants. The color black absorbs light and therefore heat. White deflects sunlight and heat , just a thought
@@Jimmytimmy1111 we tried a light colored shade cloth and removed the center black fabric and installed a fan. But it still gets to 120 degrees when it is 100 outside. Hot is hot. Works great for season extensions but not our high summer heat.
I just started using 30% with a squirt of Dawn added to break the surface tension and help it stick better last week. We have Asian jasmine in several place on our property, planted by the previous owners. I have tried on and off for years to get rid of it but I think this may finally be the answer. We are on acreage, surrounded by woods and the vines are starting to work their way towards the woods and our native plant fields - which I want to prevent. Asian jasmine makes a pretty, sweet smelling flower - but it is a rampantly invasive non-native. My first spray resulted in dead foliage within less that a week. My plan is to spray at least once a week in an attempt to eventually kill the roots by killing the foliage as soon as it sprouts out again. Repeatedly killing new growth should deplete the roots and kill them in the long run.
Just a safety note for people who’ve never done this before: This is very very strong vinegar and is very corrosive to your skin and feels very harsh when inhaled. I wear a mask and gloves when working with this stuff and spraying. I use it for all sorts of things like peeling old wallpaper. Some people dilute it but I never have.
Your shade cloth should be white, not black... black absorbs sunlight and makes things 10 times hotter... white reflects sunlight and keeps everything cool...
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm Thanks for this piece of very useful information! Would you please confirm, you use only 30% vinegar without adding salt of dish detergent as mentioned by other youtubers?
@@tomyang5991 We do not add salt. Salt is bad for most soils. Adding dish soap will help the vinegar remain on the leaves longer. Just a little dish soap goes a long way. We use Castile soap in all of our organic gardening. It is vegetable based soap.
If you use vinegar at that strength on your yard in a typical neighborhood the chances of having your neighbors call hazmat is quite high. Out in a field away from homes and businesses would be better. But, if you are in the middle of a field after spraying a large section you risk death . Typical respirators even well fitted still aren’t foolproof. The exertion, lack of enough oxygen due to high filtration and possible intake of the vinegar fumes all can contribute to a fatal attempt to control weeds. I am not joking about this, a research student at UC Davis was found dead out in the field spraying a vinegar solution during a study for the control of weeds with vinegar, this was about 2 1/2 years ago out in Davis Ca. I’m retired now but held 3 QAL licenses with the Calif. DPR. A,F & P. Be careful out there.
You are correct. We made the video in context with our organic market farm and homestead out in a field. Caution is always advised and reading the product label is important.
No, I do not recommend adding salt, especially around areas where you care about the soil. Most salts will damage the soil microbes. The vinegar will not. It is water soluble and will dissipate quickly.
Old boss from a previous job(chemical industry) "loaned" 50% vinegar every summer that he used to kill weeds from his yard. Really fast acting at that concetration 😂.
Tried this and it was not too great. I mean it killed the weeds but only after several applications, and then they came back. By the time I did the several applications, it cost as much as the weed killer that kills to the root, that I only had to apply once. Sorry.
True. Some weeds are tough and take repeated treatment with vinegar. For those of us who care about the environment and the effects of poisons on people, it is worth the extra cost. Check out the damage to people and the environment from things like roundup. These chemicals are now found in your food and water. See EWG.org.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm I don't use Round-Up. Vinegar & salt are not always environmentally safe either, especially salt. Well, it's always just possible to cut down and dig up the weeds right? Let's do that. I'll hook up a plow to my horse and get it done.
Awesome! Glad to hear you dont use roundup or anything with glyphosate in it. Yes, salt is detrimental to most soils. However, vinegar dissipates quickly and will only damage the top inch or so of soil microbes. Cut them down, pull them or dig them up are the best options but to labor intensive in large areas. The plow or tilling will also kill soil biology but is a must sometimes. We will have other weed killing method videos coming out soon.. Thanks for watching.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm The salt works fine if you have a piece of land where you never want anything to grow. We have some acreage like that here. Guess i'll give it another try if I find the time to apply several times. It's tough when talking about a lot of acreage in a desert area like ours is. Maybe I need a big sprayer that attaches to a yard tractor.
30% vinegar should be diluted half and half with water…..no need to spend $20 a gallon of 30% and use it directly without dilution. It’ll kill half and half with a little soap in it.
The higher the concentration the better it works. Otherwise just use regular vinegar for salads. The higher the concentration the faster it burns up the foliage.
I am trying to remove black mold from concrete driveway. I almost bought 30% vinegar but got confused when label said, great for driveways, then in fine print said limit prolonged contact with concrete. I tried Simple Green heavy duty cleaner, it removed some but required extensive scrubbing. 5% vinegar removed it with some scrubbing. Bleach worked without any scrubbing. Trying to decide on bleach vs. 30% vinegar. The 30% bottle says dilute it 1:64. This video showed me I don’t have to dilute it at all. Sorry to ramble but would 30% vinegar work better than (or as good as) bleach for mold, and if so, should I dilute it by half for safety? (I want to avoid renting/buying a pressure washer if possible.)
@@revelation7262 Thanks for your question. I do not dilute the vinegar to clean things outside. I have not used bleach to clean a driveway of mold so I don't have a great answer for that. Sorry.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm Just got 30% at Lowe's for like $21 Wear a mask over the nose, I was using a hand held spray bottle got after spray miss up my nose by acciddent took awhile for it to go away.
It is sold in every farm store and garden center in our area as "30 % Vinegar". Vinegar is a combination of acetic acid and water made by a two-step fermentation process.
Another thing soap does break the surface tension of water molecules, allowing the vinegar to absorb into the plant leaves faster
I use straight vinegar. Works terrific!
Very helpful video! I noticed that you didn't use salt as many do, maybe they do not realize or know that if you do use it, the ground will be too salty for anything else to grow. Another thing we need to be careful about is not spraying this on or near cement or concrete because it will damage or dissolve it.
Thanks. We appreciate your additional insights!
Great points especially pertaining to concrete damage
Yeah, I leave salt out of my recipe. The acidity does not harm to my already acid Piedmont soil and the soap will break down and wash away. But I don't want any long-term buildup of salt in my soil. An ancient warfare technique to destroy an enemy long-term was to salt their farmland.
I always wondered about the salt
not at all true about the salt. Weeds grow back immediately in the same spots.
I use the same brand of vinegar from HD. I do dilute though, down to 15%, because at $20/gal its not cheap. On sunny days the 15% kills within an hour, but even cooler overcast days the leaves dry up after a day or so.
On Amazon it’s a $100 a gallon.
I used a household white vinegar / water mix and a little soap to make it penetrate better and basically drowned a ton of moss with it. Stone dead in a few days, super easy to power wash away. But the vinegar didn't go anywhere so when it rained the runoff hit the lawn from the asphalt I had treated and turned the edge a little brown-ish. So I went back and poured some bicarbonate/water over top to neutralize what remained, not sure if that worked but can't hurt I guess... I'll trade a few centimeters of lawn temporarily for not having a bunch of moss all over the place.
Black shade cover will absorb heat and then radiate the heat with convection. Try reflective shade cover, you can get 50/50 reflective/clear fabric
Adding Dawn Dish detergent helps this product to be more effective.
Yes, adding just about any soap helps the vinegar "stick" to the weeds.
What if you don’t have casteel can you use dawn?
Yes. That will work.
This is a good video. I used to develop and print B&W film and photo shops sold glacial Acetic acid. It is basically 90% so it got diluted to about 15% or you could get premixed stop bath. I never wore gloves with 15% but in photography class some kids had issues so they wore gloves. 30% would definitely require protection on eyes and skin. Don't breathe the mist. BTW, I ran out of stop bath and I used 5% vinegar. It worked but the emulsion on the paper took longer to harden. Never tried in on film because I didn't want to risk scratching the negatives.But I digress.
Im from ythe phillipines how cn i get 30 percent vinegsr
We buy it at local farm stores, gardening shops or hardware stores.
I was hoping there would be more feed back on various temps. It wont hit a 100degrees for months here :( The grass/weeds will be knee high)
The temperature is not as important as direct sunlight. It definitely works better in the sun. Hot temperatures also improve the weed-killing effect.
Been using 30% for yrs. Works great but watch over spray or over soaking the ground, roots will pick it up looking for moisture. Good video
I've been getting at the roots because my acre is over run with sticker plants, do you know a way to kill the roots?
Seems like the surveilance works. Me and the neighbour treated the yard with vinegar yesterday, and today, this pops up 😂 Just rememer to use tight-fitting goggles when filling the pump, spraying and emptying the pump. Vinegar gan really hurt your eyes. If you get vinegar in your eyes, flush with plenty of clean water, and call the ER.
White shade cloth will drop the temp inside , not by alot but it will tame it down with good circulation.
Can I safely kill weeds at the bottom of blueberry bushes without hurthing the Blueberry plants?
Yes, the spray must ONLY contact the foliage of the weeds you want to suppress or kill. I would recommend doing several "light" sprays over several days. It is critical NOT to get the vinegar on the blueberry plant. Blueberries also have a shallow root system. Again, this is why I would do several "light" applications rather than a heavier dosing. Be careful with this!
Take care when using such concentrated vinegar to not get it on your hands and then accidentally get those hands near your eyes, perhaps to wipe away sweat.
Regarding the shade cloth on your greenhouse. I had the same problem with my greenhouse overheating and I used WHITE 50% shade cloth and it worked well. The fact that you used black shade cloth might be the reason that it did not reduce the temperature as the black would absorb the heat and conduct it to the inside.
Thanks. Now we know. Nothing like learning from mistakes.
As you are spraying and carrying the tank push the handle all the way down and give it a quarter turn clockwise. It will lock it in.
GREAT! Q ? CAN YOU LEAVE THE VINEGER IN YOUR SPRAYER OVERNIGHT? I am older and can only do small areas at one application. THANKS!!
Yes. But not long term. Vinegar is corrosive and should be rinsed of with water.
I have Dr Bronner's Peppermint Soap and regular vinegar
What sprayer do you guys use, the one's I've purchased say don't use anything acidic?
Husqvarna. Wash it well after each use.
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@@SavvyOrganicsFarm Thank you. Oddly enough, I just bought this one. The man at Lowes told me it could handle vinegar but my other one clogged because of the salt.
The salt is not needed and can be a detriment to the soil long term. Thanks!
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm Oh, thank you.
did you ever try putting spray tip right down by weed root shoot into soil. I find this works also with week killer better then spraying leaves only
Great tip! Thank you. We will have to give this a try.
Not effective. Don't do this.
I wonder if this would kill raspberries i don't want and cant seem to get under control?
Yes, it may take several applications but it will kill them. I wish we had that many raspberries! I love them!
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm you wouldn't love these. "Heritage" variety from Walmart. Everbearing. Fruit flies. Flavor never that great.
Very interesting and lots of action video. Good, Very little face time. Good narrative. Careful not to fall into the and -um-ah trap. It is better to have a pause. More please.
Can this be used around the edge of a pond with fish in it? An invasive plant is trying to take over our pond. Think it was transported via birds from a local lake. Will the vinegar harm the fish?
Great question! Short answer is, I have no idea. I would avoid getting the vinegar in the water until I was sure. On the other hand, water dilutes vinegar. So perhaps depending on the size of the pond may determine how much vinegar you could use.
My pump-up sprayer is small, without an extension wand. I don’t think I want to risk spraying 30% vinegar until I find something that gets the spray farther away from my face. I do have a siphon sprayer but it’s not that long and a little cumbersome. Any suggestions? Those big sprayers can be pretty costly. Thanks for the video.
Great question! Thank you. You can get a smaller quart or two quart pump sprayer from your local gardening center. They are about $10-$12 here in Texas.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm that's what I have. No extension wand, but I'll look again.
Is it safe for pets and animals to
As far as we know, yes.
I've been using 45% vinegar to take out English ivy and poison ivy! I do add a tablespoon of liquid soap as an emulsifier, no salt.
Safety goggles and gloves are a must!
And you are right about mid day spraying, although I find the wind is calmer in th morning.
It's just so satisfying to see crispy ivy!
Cut a small section from the ivy stems in a few places, and just wet the exposed stem with 1:4 glyphosate (easy to apply with a trigger spray). It takes 30 seconds to do ... any time of day, as long as rain isn't imminent. So quick and easy ... and uses a teaspoon of chemical, if that.
@@JoeBlow-zr2ru I like your idea! Good way to get it into the ivy without dousing it. Thank you!
Currently trying to rent goats for a day...but may use your suggestion afterwards!👍🏻
I think you are after the surfactant property of detergents, since acetic acid is soluble in water and requires no emulsion.
@@jeffcard3623 🤫
Hello!! I have an above ground pool and there are weeds next to it.
Will the vinegar harm the vinyl pool? I know....a bit random 🌻
I would not use it around metal pool skirting or around vinyl pool liners. No experience with these materials but the vinegar is very harsh.
Try threading pool noodles on rope and putting them between shade house roof and shade cloth to stop direct heat transfer.
Good tip! Thanks
what is the product name called for that plastic fabric you have on the floor around your greenhouse?
Woven Weed Fabric
@@SavvyOrganicsFarmthank you!
2 Questions: Will the soap pollute your soil? Will the vinegar damage the seals in the sprayer?
No, soap will not pollute the soil. Use a natural soap if possible. Wash the sprayer out with clean water after using vinegar. Do not leave the vinegar in the sprayer.
I have 45%. Should I dilute to 30%?
Not necessary. It will work even faster!
As someone who sells awnings and shade products, the reason you are not getting any reduced heat from your shade cloth is because it is BLACK. This is a common mistake most people make. Does it SHADE? yes, Does it attract HEAT? YES. Shade and Heat Protection are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. You needed to get a WHITE Shade Cloth. We find this in the RV industry, people get so hot in their RV's so they buy these $$$ front windshield "shades" and of course they get black,,,,,,,,,,,,,then cannot understand why their RV is even hotter.
It is as important that the shade should be elevated above the greenhouse. Whatever color the shade, it will be struck by the sun. An air gap reduces the efficiency of the transfer of heat from the shade to the greenhouse. I'm sure he'd have better results by just raising the shade to make an air gap. Direct contact is allowing heat transmission by conduction. A white shade would help by reflecting some heat, but would also be more effective if raised, by preventing heat conduction. Air is an insulator, as anyone knows who is familiar with how outdoor clothing and sleeping bags are made (and double-pane windows). The idea is to impede the transmission of heat.
Say rather that black objects absorb more solar energy than do white ones, thereby becoming hotter. There is no mechanism by which anything black "attracts" heat.
Common sense at it's best!
That
's what I always wondered.People using black umbrellas for shade or black awnings.
Or Black shade cloths
no salt?
Vinegar, acidic acid will temporarily increase the pH but in my experience, the pH dissipates back to normal within a day or two.
I watched your video nearly a year ago and lost your channel. So...Thinking I remembered correctly how you made and used the vinegar. I thought wrong - bought 40% vinegar. I am wondering, could I cut this with water to make it safer? I hope you see my question and are able to get back to me a.s.a.p. My neighbor has his entire back yard covered with Japanese hops (Humulus japonicus) among prolific weeds and he won't do anything about it. So I want to spray along the property line and where they have made it into our grass (no vegetable or garden near the area). Digging them up is impossible because if you leave a 1/2 inch of root, within a week if is a foot tall. Sort of like Kudgu in the south. I need your input please. Thank you in advance!
Glad you found us again! Yes, you can dilute the 40% down as much as 50%. In this case, it would also be helpful if you could cover the area after you spray it with black plastic silage tarp type material, a tarp or cardboard. This will take away the light source and overheat the roots in the soil.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm Oh, my goodness! I never hoped you would get back to me in such a timely fashion. Thank you so much - weather looks sunny and little wind a couple of days next week. Will try to update you and your channel how successful it was. Have a wonderful Father's Day!
You mention flower beds. I have some nascent weeds in my tulip bed. I should only spray the weed, if needed, and not the whole bed, correct? This will kill my tulips if applied to them, yes?
You must be extremely careful not to get the vinegar on your tulips. Vinegar kills the foliage by burning the leaves. Stubborn weeds may take more than one treatment.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm thank you! Can I plant in places after I've killed the weeds with the vinegar? I want to plant roses along my front fence but first was going to treat with the vinegar to kill the weeds that currently reside there.
@@ksquard72 Yes. We normally wait a few days for the weeds to die and for the vinegar to dissipate. We clean out the dead weeds, work the soil, add our amendments and care on.
Don’t dilute the vinegar. As he mentioned,the dilution from dew reduces the killing effect.
As it breaks down it becomes fertilizer;an advantage over herbicides.
How come only the weeds are effected and not the grass ??
It kills both grass and weeds but the weeds are the target.
Does this make the soil too acidic in a garden?
Not in our experience. The acidity seems to dissipate quickly. We are also not soaking the soil with it. The target is the foliage of the plants/weeds we want to knock down. Thanks for watching!
Can you explain the logic of spraying the vinegar on a hot sunny day? I thought it would be good to do it when the sun wasn't out so that the acid can really penetrate the leaves and do its work unlike in harsh sun where it's evaporated quickly.
The hotter and sunnier the better. The hot sun combined with the vinegar burn the foliage.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm Alright, thanks. Not what I’d think but I do believe you.
Can this kill stiltgrass with a 15-20% strength range? thanks!
Yes I think so. It may help to add orange oil to the vinegar or some dish soap. Good question! Thanks.
Does spraying vinegar to kill weeds make to soil too acidic to plant food plot vegetation?
Yes, but it is only temporary. Soil pH returns to normal balance within a few days.
I tried vinegar/soap/water mixture on our gravel driveway. It didnt really work very well to control the weeds. but then we used cooking vinegar. I'll have to look for the 30% vinegar. didnt know it existed
Don't dilute it with water. And, it has to be at least 20% vinegar. We get it at a farm store called Atwoods here in north Texas. We use it on our driveway as well. Be sure it is a hot sunny day and dry for best results.
I bought a gallon of 45% vinegar on Amazon in late May 2022 for $19.99.
@@BigHeinen it’s over a $100 now.
Lowe's has 30% for under $30. 1 gallon.
Walmart has Harris 30% for $20 right now.
I’ve been using regular 5% but I’m going to try the 30%.
I've been using cleaning vinegar, it's 20% stronger than white vinegar.
@@BunnyLang20x stronger? Lol. That would be 100% pure acetic acid.
@@BrilloHead My bad, it's 20% stronger :)
@@BunnyLang 20% stronger would be 6% vinegar, so you're using cleaning vinegar? Well that makes sense now. I have some 9% vinegar. I guess that's 80% stronger than regular white vinegar. Still a far cry from horticultural vinegar, which is at least 20%.
@@BrilloHead The reason I like it is because you only need 1/2 cup to a gallon of water, so it saves a lot of money. I bought a 64 oz bottle for about $3.00 where just the regular gal of white vinegar was almost $4.00. I use it only for weeds, tho, it certainly is Not a food condiment.
Would you put this stuff in a pull behind sprayer with a boom? I have a ton of burdock to get rid of.
Yes. But I would suggest wearing eye protection and a respirator for safety. Be sure to wash out your sprayer well after use.
No doubt 30% works. Ive been using standard white vinegar (5-6% acidic) with dish soap and salt and it is very effective. been warned 30% can burn skin or dangerous if overspray is inhaled or hits eyes. But regular vinegar is now hard to find. Considering 30% diluted by half or more. Do you think that will work?
Yes, the 30% can irritate your skin and should not be inhaled. You can dilute it but it is not as effective when diluted.
Have you tried it on gout weed?
It works fine diluted half with water…..I’ve killed every weed in south TEXAS with that mixture
Thank you, great video
Can you add water to make a bigger portion size of spray? At my work we have lots of areas to cover so the more the better.
Yes, but the more you dilute the vinegar the less effective it will be.
Can you pour vinegar omly
Yes. But a spray bottle or garden sprayer works best.
nothing works better than boiling water
True! Boiling water can take care of many pests, even fire ants!
Not practical for large areas. I use 45% vinegar
Tried it... melted my sprayer
I add salt to this mixture too. Table salt will work just fine.
Salt will also help kill the weed. But, salt is NOT a good additive for garden soil. Only use the salt in areas you don't want to grow food.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm what about using epsom salt following vinegar treatment? How long before planting?
@@katetremont8918 Epson salt is magnesium. It is not needed unless your soil is low in magnesium. Use Epson salt as a fertilizer and follow the directions on the bag/box.
Does the Vinegar 30% kill the grass?
Depends on the kind of grass. It will kill grass but may require multiple treatments.
They do have a 45 percent on line that I use, extremely powerful stuff DON’T breathe it in !
This is what I've been using. No issues
Is the vinegar pet friendly?
Good question. We really don't know. We don't have any pets, just livestock. And, we have not used it in our livestock areas. The vapors dissipate quickly after application and the liquid dries quickly in the hot sun.
If I spray vinegar to kill weeds and then want to plant into that space, do I have to wait to plant? In particular, I'm looking to plant snap peas. Thanks!
I would wait a day or two just to let the vinegar dissipate. I have not done the soil testing but I would think it would change the pH at least temporarily. In our experience it evaporates quickly.
To make this work better, and 1 pound of table salt to each gallon of vinegar. Salt kills weeds by itself.
True. The salt will kill weeds but it will also kill the soil so that area won’t grow anything until the salt is gone and the biology returns. Just depends on where it’s being used.
Do you think adding the salt will help kill the roots?
@@BunnyLang yup
@@casualobserver620 Thank you! Now I'm hunting down an acid sprayer that's affordable.
Does anyone know if I can spray this whete my raised bed (bout 8" high) meets the wood chips? Is that too close to my raised beds to do it right there?
I used some of this on my parking lot at my church and it melted the little rubber diaphragm inside the sprayer that keeps the pressure inside the bottle and all of that vinegar started pouring out the top. Have you never had a problem like that? If so is there some way you fix that problem
Wow! Sorry but no. We have used several different pump sprayers without issue. We pour any remaining vinegar back into the original container and wash the sprayers after each use.
So I figured out that if you get the very cheapest sprayer at Walmart it will not hold up to the acidity of the 30% vinegar but if you get a sprayer that is specifically made for spraying acid it's no problem. I'm sure some sprayers that are not specifically made for acid will work also but it's a Gamble. The acid started to warp the little diaphragm that keeps the pressure inside the container
@@TheKahu78 just be sure to wash any sprayer out after each use.
YES!!! It happened to two sprayers I had! I rinsed them out after I used them, but it still did it at 15% vinegar!!
I had expensive sprayers, too!
@@Tinyteacher1111 rinse or wash?
*How much 💦 & dish soap to dilute 30% vinegar? I use gallon container; pour in 32 Oz spray bottle. I do small areas per application. * Is it safe; any tips? - a screen separates weed (rock) area, from inground pool & cement patio?
We use about a tablespoon of Dr. Bonner Castile soap per gallon of water. The soap helps the vinegar to adhere. Do not get the vinegar on your above ground pool. The vinegar is corrosive to metal and plastic/vinyl.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarmwhy would vinegar be corrosive to plastic?
@@mracer8 Vinegar is a solvent on PVC, plastic, and some rubber. It will rust just about any metal quickly.
Will this kill poison ivy?
Yes but it can take several treatments if it is a large persistent path. Thanks for watching!
The sun shade you have on your green house is black & so is the plastic you have around the base of your plants. The color black absorbs light and therefore heat. White deflects sunlight and heat , just a thought
Yep. Perfect for winter growing.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm did you find a fix to help the green house stay cool in the summer?
@@Jimmytimmy1111 we tried a light colored shade cloth and removed the center black fabric and installed a fan. But it still gets to 120 degrees when it is 100 outside. Hot is hot. Works great for season extensions but not our high summer heat.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm thanks for the info, i hope you guys get some relief soon from the heat and have a good growing season .. take care
excellent thank you!
Do you recommend using salt with the vinegar?
Not if you plan on replanting the area. The salt will kill anything you plan to plant if you spray it regularly.
I just started using 30% with a squirt of Dawn added to break the surface tension and help it stick better last week. We have Asian jasmine in several place on our property, planted by the previous owners. I have tried on and off for years to get rid of it but I think this may finally be the answer. We are on acreage, surrounded by woods and the vines are starting to work their way towards the woods and our native plant fields - which I want to prevent. Asian jasmine makes a pretty, sweet smelling flower - but it is a rampantly invasive non-native. My first spray resulted in dead foliage within less that a week. My plan is to spray at least once a week in an attempt to eventually kill the roots by killing the foliage as soon as it sprouts out again. Repeatedly killing new growth should deplete the roots and kill them in the long run.
Perfect! Sometimes it takes several treatments depending on the plant that you are trying to kill.
Just a safety note for people who’ve never done this before: This is very very strong vinegar and is very corrosive to your skin and feels very harsh when inhaled. I wear a mask and gloves when working with this stuff and spraying. I use it for all sorts of things like peeling old wallpaper. Some people dilute it but I never have.
Thanks! Great advice.
I use 45% and never had any issues
Is this safe to use in a butterfly garden?
Yes, however it will kill any plants or insects that it contacts while spraying. Don't get it on any plant or beneficial insects.
What about add salt?
No need to add salt. Salt may also prevent plants you want from growing.
Your shade cloth should be white, not black... black absorbs sunlight and makes things 10 times hotter... white reflects sunlight and keeps everything cool...
who is going to taste it to prove there is peppermint there? but what does hemp taste like? straw?
After treatment, How long do I need to wait tin order o plant vegetable again? Thanks.
We have planted areas previously sprayed with vinegar in jus a few days. Water soluble is awesome!
We plant again within a few days. Water soluble is awesome!
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm Thanks for this piece of very useful information! Would you please confirm, you use only 30% vinegar without adding salt of dish detergent as mentioned by other youtubers?
@@tomyang5991 We do not add salt. Salt is bad for most soils. Adding dish soap will help the vinegar remain on the leaves longer. Just a little dish soap goes a long way. We use Castile soap in all of our organic gardening. It is vegetable based soap.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm Thank you so much for your great help!
How long does the vinegar smell last
Just an hour or two. It evaporates fairly quickly.
That Vinegar cost $22 dollars a gallon at our Lowe’s store.
If you use vinegar at that strength on your yard in a typical neighborhood the chances of having your neighbors call hazmat is quite high. Out in a field away from homes and businesses would be better. But, if you are in the middle of a field after spraying a large section you risk death . Typical respirators even well fitted still aren’t foolproof. The exertion, lack of enough oxygen due to high filtration and possible intake of the vinegar fumes all can contribute to a fatal attempt to control weeds.
I am not joking about this, a research student at UC Davis was found dead out in the field spraying a vinegar solution during a study for the control of weeds with vinegar, this was about 2 1/2 years ago out in Davis Ca. I’m retired now but held 3 QAL licenses with the Calif. DPR. A,F & P. Be careful out there.
You are correct. We made the video in context with our organic market farm and homestead out in a field. Caution is always advised and reading the product label is important.
I use the 45% vinegar and have accidentally inhaled it many times. No issues. Maybe in 2038 I'll start to get a thumb growing out of my forehead?
No, I do not recommend adding salt, especially around areas where you care about the soil. Most salts will damage the soil microbes. The vinegar will not. It is water soluble and will dissipate quickly.
How about PH? Do you need to bring it back to basic?
Vinegar is very harmful for nature. It lowers the pH of the groundwater for a long periode of time. It is devastating for all soil-living organisms.
Old boss from a previous job(chemical industry) "loaned" 50% vinegar every summer that he used to kill weeds from his yard. Really fast acting at that concetration 😂.
Wow! Be careful not to breath it or get it on your skin. Would love to have some of that.
enjoyed watching 2 gallons of vinegar being poured, exiting.
Do you recomend 75% to kill weed
30% vinegar is fine.
Sure you can I use it all the time .thee to one though👍
Tried this and it was not too great. I mean it killed the weeds but only after several applications, and then they came back. By the time I did the several applications, it cost as much as the weed killer that kills to the root, that I only had to apply once. Sorry.
True. Some weeds are tough and take repeated treatment with vinegar. For those of us who care about the environment and the effects of poisons on people, it is worth the extra cost. Check out the damage to people and the environment from things like roundup. These chemicals are now found in your food and water. See EWG.org.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm I don't use Round-Up. Vinegar & salt are not always environmentally safe either, especially salt. Well, it's always just possible to cut down and dig up the weeds right? Let's do that. I'll hook up a plow to my horse and get it done.
Awesome! Glad to hear you dont use roundup or anything with glyphosate in it. Yes, salt is detrimental to most soils. However, vinegar dissipates quickly and will only damage the top inch or so of soil microbes. Cut them down, pull them or dig them up are the best options but to labor intensive in large areas. The plow or tilling will also kill soil biology but is a must sometimes. We will have other weed killing method videos coming out soon.. Thanks for watching.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm The salt works fine if you have a piece of land where you never want anything to grow. We have some acreage like that here. Guess i'll give it another try if I find the time to apply several times. It's tough when talking about a lot of acreage in a desert area like ours is. Maybe I need a big sprayer that attaches to a yard tractor.
This works, but have ruined two expensive sprayers.
So sorry to hear it. So far, we have not had that experience.
Are you wearing eye protection?
No. But it is a good idea especially if there is any wind.
Vinegar maxes out at around 8%. This stuff is a concentrated acetic acid, and a whole other animal.
All vinegar is diluted acetic acid. It just depends on how mush water us used to dilute the vinegar.
sprayer from SCOTTS..lol the leader in herbicide/pesticide products..
Very ironic.
Now THAT's funny right there, Y'all. 😆
Kills bugs too!!!!😀
Yes, that is true. It will kill those insects in comes in direct contact with. It does not care if they are beneficial or not. Thanks!
30% vinegar should be diluted half and half with water…..no need to spend $20 a gallon of 30% and use it directly without dilution. It’ll kill half and half with a little soap in it.
The higher the concentration the better it works. Otherwise just use regular vinegar for salads. The higher the concentration the faster it burns up the foliage.
I am trying to remove black mold from concrete driveway. I almost bought 30% vinegar but got confused when label said, great for driveways, then in fine print said limit prolonged contact with concrete. I tried Simple Green heavy duty cleaner, it removed some but required extensive scrubbing. 5% vinegar removed it with some scrubbing. Bleach worked without any scrubbing. Trying to decide on bleach vs. 30% vinegar. The 30% bottle says dilute it 1:64. This video showed me I don’t have to dilute it at all. Sorry to ramble but would 30% vinegar work better than (or as good as) bleach for mold, and if so, should I dilute it by half for safety? (I want to avoid renting/buying a pressure washer if possible.)
@@revelation7262 Thanks for your question. I do not dilute the vinegar to clean things outside. I have not used bleach to clean a driveway of mold so I don't have a great answer for that. Sorry.
That stuffs a $100 a gallon, I’ll come pick your weeds.
It is only about $20 at our farm stores. It is not cheap but being used correctly it goes a long way.
@@SavvyOrganicsFarm Just got 30% at Lowe's for like $21
Wear a mask over the nose, I was using a hand held spray bottle got after spray miss up my nose by acciddent took awhile for it to go away.
@@efirce Be careful out there!
That’s a frkg goofy looking hat! Hahaha
Yes it is! LOL. But it keeps the 110 degree sun off and shades my back.
30% isn't vinegar, it's acetic acid.
It is sold in every farm store and garden center in our area as "30 % Vinegar". Vinegar is a combination of acetic acid and water made by a two-step fermentation process.
30% is a chemical compound not an organic compound
Dude needs a bigger hat.
😂
I SAID HE GOT TOO CLOSE😖
oops! Live and learn.
A waste of time. Use roundup to get the job done right.
If you are one who likes cancer and toxic chemicals you do you.