Main gripe as an owner myself is the hour and minute takes one FULL wind to move an hour. Good thing theres the 10 -12 date movement to push forward the date or im fucked without a watch winder
Beautiful watch! But I agree on the 50 years rotor, it just doesn't look right on such a classic piece. They could've done better imho. Glad that there will be a regular rotor from 2023 on. Great for collectors, but I wouldn't need it. Unfortunately the price is too much out there. Yes, an AP wasn't never really affordable but the latest MSRP's are just ridicoulus if you ask me. It's really a high end piece but imho it's not a 32k € watch at all. Especially considering the fact that they still use quite a lot of old parts and that the movement doesn't really have any complication worth mentioning. But hey... the watch will probably sell above retail anyways so in the end it doesn't really matter in real life conditions...
I for one am so grateful (and relieved) that they didn’t mess with the Jumbo design for the 50th anniversary. I have started my begging again with my AP SA since I never made the cut for the 15202. 🤣🤣🤣 Sounds like I may get allocated for an ROC instead, which I can still handle. But one day, the Jumbo shall be mine! 😬😬😬
@@Monochrome-watches couldn’t agree more! Part of the whole journey and makes it that much sweeter when you do secure a piece! Thanks for the great videos…. 😊
let me chip in here as an owner of 15.202ST.. I welcome the new changes to the Jumbo lineup. The previous caliber was infamously unreliable and highly fragile. Also it was made by JLC in almost the same way as when it first was created in the 70s. Hence the number of movements they could dish out was notoriously little which also resulted in very few releases. A bad thing if you are in market to purchase one, a good thing if you managed to snag one. If the new in-house movement equates a more reliable and tough movement, and hopefully increased production numbers, then that can only be a good thing for the long term. AP was smart here, they didn't mess with the overall visuals, but that 50 rotor is meh. If i was feeling selfish Id wish they didn't have it in blue with the tapisserie... that would've propelled the predecessor watch into stratosphere valuations. As for the 15.202 i see it following a similar path as say a Zenith Daytona...a very specific oddity that will always have its own little corner of the collector world but not necessarily consideration for someone looking to acquire the jumbo for the first time.
@@xpatcan1 yeah..but I think there should be much thickness for a nautilus as some owner says it feels delicate and the clasp is not worth at that price point ..
Is it just me but there’s like a repeat of the same information in the same video? It’s like the video was deliberately lengthened by repeating content 😲 anyway great videography, I shall shut up and enjoy since the watch on video
With all due respect for consistency and as much as I like the look of this watch, it is just not for me for two (incl. price and availability four reasons): 1. Lack of a second hand - just cannot stand being shown minutes and hours only and have to guess the seconds 2. 5 ATM water resistance - not enough for a steel sports watch these days, should be min. 10 ATM in my opinion Oh, what about the material of the 50 Years rotor - is it white gold?!
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Main gripe as an owner myself is the hour and minute takes one FULL wind to move an hour. Good thing theres the 10 -12 date movement to push forward the date or im fucked without a watch winder
Beautiful watch! But I agree on the 50 years rotor, it just doesn't look right on such a classic piece. They could've done better imho. Glad that there will be a regular rotor from 2023 on. Great for collectors, but I wouldn't need it. Unfortunately the price is too much out there. Yes, an AP wasn't never really affordable but the latest MSRP's are just ridicoulus if you ask me. It's really a high end piece but imho it's not a 32k € watch at all. Especially considering the fact that they still use quite a lot of old parts and that the movement doesn't really have any complication worth mentioning. But hey... the watch will probably sell above retail anyways so in the end it doesn't really matter in real life conditions...
Lol not probably sell above retail price. It confirm above retail price by at least 500% 🤣
thank goodness a date quickset
Not sure about that “50 years” engraving on the winding rotor, seems kinda gimmicky to me. But that’s in keeping with APs latest design trends i guess
‘Gimmicky’ welcome to 2022 watch sales
@@BobbyDazzler888 indeed. After the Marvel collaboration, I expect anything from AP nowadays
The 50 years logo will be gone at the end of the year and the watch will have a classic rotor as of 2023
Date date changes same as the previous model?
I’ll be there for the 100th anniversary RO :)
2 years closer
"In Your Dreams" engraving on the winding rotor.. Because you will never get it !!
‘Vip customers’/flippers will have all. Sit in safe for a year and slowly offload stock
I for one am so grateful (and relieved) that they didn’t mess with the Jumbo design for the 50th anniversary. I have started my begging again with my AP SA since I never made the cut for the 15202. 🤣🤣🤣 Sounds like I may get allocated for an ROC instead, which I can still handle. But one day, the Jumbo shall be mine! 😬😬😬
Part of the joy of ownership is the memory of the chase ;)
@@Monochrome-watches couldn’t agree more! Part of the whole journey and makes it that much sweeter when you do secure a piece! Thanks for the great videos…. 😊
Beautiful as always. But if it doesn’t have the cal 2121 it is not a True Jumbo, it is just another Royal Oak.
Agreed. The thick rim of the new movement's balance also reminds me of those in pin-pallet dollar watches.
let me chip in here as an owner of 15.202ST.. I welcome the new changes to the Jumbo lineup. The previous caliber was infamously unreliable and highly fragile. Also it was made by JLC in almost the same way as when it first was created in the 70s. Hence the number of movements they could dish out was notoriously little which also resulted in very few releases. A bad thing if you are in market to purchase one, a good thing if you managed to snag one.
If the new in-house movement equates a more reliable and tough movement, and hopefully increased production numbers, then that can only be a good thing for the long term. AP was smart here, they didn't mess with the overall visuals, but that 50 rotor is meh. If i was feeling selfish Id wish they didn't have it in blue with the tapisserie... that would've propelled the predecessor watch into stratosphere valuations.
As for the 15.202 i see it following a similar path as say a Zenith Daytona...a very specific oddity that will always have its own little corner of the collector world but not necessarily consideration for someone looking to acquire the jumbo for the first time.
that smoked yellow dial is fire, son.
Love it!
Beautiful watch, however I personally would have liked to have seen something more/different for the 50th anniversary addition.
very good French accent :-)
yes this might be the only english-speaking watch reviewer who actually knows french and doesn't butcher every word.
yes, and simply because the team member who does the voiceover is half French, half English :)
😂
does the new 16202st have a screw down crown
No it doesn't, just like the 15202st and WR is still 50m
@@Monochrome-watches thanku for ur reply😇
this why the 5711 will always be better imo
@@xpatcan1 yeah..but I think there should be much thickness for a nautilus as some owner says it feels delicate and the clasp is not worth at that price point ..
Is it just me but there’s like a repeat of the same information in the same video? It’s like the video was deliberately lengthened by repeating content 😲 anyway great videography, I shall shut up and enjoy since the watch on video
Like it
With all due respect for consistency and as much as I like the look of this watch, it is just not for me for two (incl. price and availability four reasons):
1. Lack of a second hand - just cannot stand being shown minutes and hours only and have to guess the seconds
2. 5 ATM water resistance - not enough for a steel sports watch these days, should be min. 10 ATM in my opinion
Oh, what about the material of the 50 Years rotor - is it white gold?!
It‘s in white gold, cheers
Who came up with 50 years rotor should be fired!
GET A OCTO...IS SLIMMER AND NOW IS WATERPROOF 100M
Price?
EUR 32,400
@@Monochrome-watches 'Casioak' EFR-S108D £84........😁
Nice watch to look at, impossible to buy.
Go turkey for 1
Hold it for a half year, and sell it. You know what I mean
And this is why collecting watches is no longer fun
@@ToolwatchBoutique you are right, but no one care, just money money money
Please never attempt to say Audemars" in that horrid french accent