Born and Raised in Orange County, die hard UCLA fan living in Colorado now. I’m just glad I was able to see them play CU and Utah before the Big10 move.
Cardinal and gold till I die, a Long Beach native living in Utah. UCLA can suck a you know what from my perspective. I respect you good sir... You are wearing powder blue, that speaks volumes. Rivalries never die.
I still remember that 13-9 victory god that was so satisfying. I went to ucla in 09 and lived in Westwood for 8 years and saw Brett beat sc 3 years in a row, met the football and basketball guys such kind ppl and what an amazing experience.
Fun fact: with UCLA having played at the Coliseum until 1981, and USC having won a shitload of Rose Bowls, both teams have a winning record in the other's stadium.
I went to UCLA 86-90 and my best friend in high school went to SC, he once confided to me that Trojans are much more intense in their hatred of the Bruins because 4 out of 5 of them got rejected by UCLA when they applied 😂
If you go to one at the Rose Bowl, do not sit in Sections 22-27. I made that mistake. That is the visitor’s section. I was with about ten other UCLA fans surrounded by USC fans.
-but it will NEVER hold a candle to the only CFB rivalry with its' roots in a real, honest-to-goodness WAR. That's right, Los Angeles. Your intra-city battle does not hold a candle to Michigan-Ohio State...and I am a native Angeleno who grew up watching the Ten Year War in the morning, and the Battle of LA in the afternoon, on the third Saturday of November.
I was born and raised in Los Angeles, California. Right up the street from USC. Now that I live in Colorado, I still declare my Trojan fandom. I even dress up my five-year-old daughter in Trojan gear. And now that Colorado is in the Pac 12, I make sure to claim Colorado as Trojan country. #FightOn My #TributeToTroy
Great job Paul and all! great cause love you fight on! Got to love a Bruin without them there can't be a Trojan and vice versa RIP to whom has transitioned on to there next journey
This is cool I grew up in North Jersey and mostly saw Penn State and Pitt regionally. Loved Michigan vs Ohio State around Thanksgiving. But the west coast football culture has always fascinated me because I usually watched the Rose Bowl. Very interesting…
Incredible documentary! Thank you. I was at the same high school at the same time with one person who spoke here. Pat Haden. He never lost a conference game as USC QB, and he never lost at the Coliseum. And he went totally gangster on Lane Kiffin later on as AD. RIP Terry Donohue. He was the greatest UCLA football HC ever.
Of all the sports and rivalries, I love this one the best, there's a strong hatred for each other, but theres usually a lot of love too. I've taken shots with ucla fans at the rose bowl when SC was getting pummeled and even got a ride from the coli from a UCLA fan when my car wasn't starting. Its a lot like a sibling rivalry
Love 💘 and Hate that bond the two LA Schools together in all sports not limited to football; hence it's the best rivalry in college sports you can check for yourselves the number of all collegiate sports championships between the two unmatched by any rivalry.
Well produced documentary, it’s true no rivalry is cross-town like this one, other rivals are the state rivalry that are so distantly apart while USC and Brentwood school are less than 30 miles apart, the children Halloween is so rivalry based 😂
As a Utah fan, I have no idea how I went down the TH-cam rabbit hole enough to be watching this. But I will say while we have had difficult losses to both teams over the years and good wins over both teams over the years, I have always had tons of respect for the UCLA team and fans. The UCLA fans show a lot of class. When the UCLA fans got off the bus and the first thing they did was put flowers on the 22-yard line to honor our murdered players it left many of us in tears as a reminder that our humanity and brotherhood off the field is more important than the moments of rivalry on the field. UCLA fans aren't so entitled that they expect that due to the name and tradition of their school and their ability to write big checks that means they are somehow owed conference championships and national championships. UCLA fans don't expect coaches to do the impossible and come in and turn around an average team into a national championship team in one or two years. On the other hand, a certain contingent of USC fans are just nasty, spoiled, entitled, arrogant brats. I feel bad for any coaches stupid enough to take the check and prestige USC dangles in front of them because even if you take an average team and manage to go to the PAC-12 Championship and only lose two games in the season - both to Utah, one time only by 1 point, and you managed to stay in the Football Playoff conversation until the very end of the season, you will still have some very vocal fans already calling for your head. USC fans have zero patience and zero understanding that building something real takes time. If we at Utah had fired Whittingham before he had a chance to build his program we would never have had any success. If football is only about tradition and money, why even play the games? Why don't we just start a bidding war for the national championship trophy and let the team that is willing to pay the most for it have the trophy? The only reason most people enjoy college football so much is precisely because you can't buy the national championship or be given the trophy today simply because you were the best 50 years ago or 150 years ago. Sure, for some reason money and a programs success from prior years does give certain programs a significant unfair advantage, but even with that unfair advantage at the end of the day every program still has to prove it where it counts - on the field. Some teams have the name and the money, and some teams have an incredible ability to build something with very little prestige and almost no money. I will always find the latter more impressive. And even if your players really are dominate, what have the fans themselves actually accomplished that makes them think they have earned the right to not treat other fans as human beings when we are not actually in competition? It may come as a shock to them, but there are things that are way more important than football, and there are times when it is more important for us to come together as fellow human beings. I'm sure there are plenty of USC fans that think this is just sour grapes from a jealous Utah fan, and I'm sure nothing I say will change their minds. But this year we actually lost to UCLA, and we beat USC both times, so the team this year that should bother me more is UCLA. Also, I know USC is leaving the PAC-12, but in theory so is UCLA. With USC, my feeling is the way they are doing it is rewarding their nasty, selfish behavior, so in general I hate that bad behavior is being rewarded, but on the other hand I know I am with a bunch of PAC-12 fans who are saying, "Good riddance. I hope the door (doesn't) hit you on the way out." Getting rid of USC is honestly probably worth the loss of money and recruitment opportunities they gave to the conference. With UCLA I have the exact opposite reaction. I believe they have earned some good fortune and deserve it. Whether or not it will prove to be good fortune after taking into account the travel, etc. remains to be seen, but if it does prove to be a good move for them I wish them luck. I would absolutely love to see UCLA dominate the Big 10 in as many sports as possible in the near future - especially football and men's basketball since I actually watch those. But UCLA will genuinely be missed. Yes, both USC and UCLA leaving are destabilizing the conference, and as a Utah fan I have enjoyed being in a stable PAC-12 for a few years. I am definitely sad about UCLA contributing to that destabilization, but I also can't fault them for making the move that they think will be an amazing opportunity for their program. I admit, I kind of am hoping the Cal Board of Regents votes to block the move because that is absolutely the best outcome for Utah, and as much as I respect UCLA my first loyalty will always be what's best for my Utes. I'm also not completely convinced a move to the Big 10 is the dream those making the decisions think it will be. Sure, at first there will be more money, but sometimes sacrifices a program makes for more money today can result in less money in the future after taking into account the travel not only for the players but also for the fans and also taking into account that there is a certain power that comes from being a big fish in a small pond that you lose becoming a small fish in a big pond. I'm not convinced the Big 10 is really that much bigger of a pond in terms of competition than the PAC-12, but in terms of prestige and teams that have prestige it is certainly different. UCLA will probably not have as big of an adjustment because they haven't been trading on their prestige in the PAC-12 as much as USC has, but USC could be in for a real shock. USC has enough power in the PAC-12 to make sure they never have to schedule any games that are likely to be in the snow. They won't have that power in the Big 10. USC stole many of the best players and assistant coaches from other teams in the PAC-12 using their superior brand recognition and superior budget knowing those players will not be making a huge adjustment because they will still be playing in most of the same venues. However, in the Big 10 suddenly they might be on the other end of that trend when The Ohio State is using its superior budget and superior national recognition and storied tradition to steal all of USC's best players. That may not sound like a big deal now, but if it continues for enough years that USC starts having regular losing seasons their program may lose a huge amount of its prestige and marketability, and next time it comes to negotiating with a conference they may not be in as strong of a position and that decision to take money today could theoretically result in less bargaining power and thus less money in the future. Sure, it's probably unlikely something that extreme would happen, but it's also certainly not unprecedented. Like I said, I think this is a bigger problem for USC than UCLA. This is because USC's strategy is to build its success on being the big fish in the pond, and that strategy doesn't work when you aren't the big fish anymore. UCLA has clearly built other strategies beyond just trading on their name recognition and budget, so they have practice making alternative strategies for success work for them. Anyway, I doubt anyone will ever read any of what I just wrote. I mainly wrote it to get it out of my system. But if any UCLA fans do read this, know that I'm pretty sure most of the conference has a ton of respect for your fans and your program, and although we will miss you we wish you the absolute best in your new conference once you get there. It does hurt the rest of the conference that you are leaving, but I think most of us understand that while we hate it you have to do what is right for your program and seize the opportunities when they come. What you have built has a lot more substance than the USC program and has impacts both on and off the field. USC has a lot of flash, but at least for now that substance is really missing. Any program should be able to do well with a big budget and name recognition, especially when you are able to poach everyone else's hard work. Even if it succeeds, that strategy will never be impressive or earn my respect. It's the programs that are able to take the 2 star recruits and teach them discipline and skills and transform them into 4 or 5 star players, and that more importantly teach all of the players to be good citizens OFF the field that are actually creating anything of value, and at least right now UCLA seems to be doing a really good job of that. There are very few rivalries that I as an outsider to the rivalry can say one school/team/fanbase clearly and consistently outclasses the other side of the rivalry, but in the UCLA/USC rivalry I think there is a very clear winner, and it is UCLA. Sure, I know some people will say when it comes to a football rivalry all that matters in the end score. Although what happens off the field really is more important, the score does matter. I have no idea from personal knowledge how both teams looked decades ago, but I can say for all of the hype that always seems to surround USC even when on the field they are putting out a subpar product, in our years in the PAC-12 I can also solidly say I haven't noticed that USC has significantly outclassed UCLA on the field, either. Sure, there are some seasons/games where one team has clearly been better than another, but overall both teams have had up years and down years, and both teams have had years where they have caused us Ute fans a lot of anxiety. So while I'm sure those who are blinded by USC's flash will disagree, from my perspective UCLA is an equal competitor on the field, but both on and off the field their sportsmanship and class completely eclipses USC.
An astute commentary on The Cross Town Rivalry. My father played at Stanford, my older brother played at USC, I played at UCLA. My brother and I are retired College and High School Football Coaches in our eighties. Of course the annual shoot out is big in our respective families. While we kid each other and have bragging rights for one year, we both know it's all in fun. All of us in the coaching profession know that USC has a tradition of buying the skill position players resulting in year in and year out having the most physically talented team in the nation. However, bought and paid for athlete's often display lack of character i.e. OJ and Reggie. USC "fans" most who have never played a down of college football, ignore the quality of character and justify the "just win baby" attitude exemplified by a former USC assistant coach by the name of Al Davis. Kyle Wittingham and Chip Kelly have built programs from the ground up. Hats off to both. Unfortunately College Football has embraced the "Portal Transfer System" effectively creating a semi-pro situation and a new Portal recruiting season. This is detrimental to the sport I love. The silver lining is that USC can no longer control the weather as they did with Notre Dame playing at home the last game of the season last Saturday in November but playing at Notre Dame in early October so the poor little SoCal boys wouldn't get cold! Hats off to the Offensive genius Lincoln Riley for bringing half of the OU team including a Heisman Trophy QB to LA, only to lose twice in the same season to the Utes 😂. The PAC 12 WILL be fine with Utah, Oregon (Nike $), Oregon State, Washington, WAZU, and maybe a resurgent Tree Team.
TLDR: he hates that USC is back on top and such an established big national brand which Utah will never achieve in his lifetime, so he ends up being a UCLA stan instead.
@@snakeydoo The real TL:DR - From a Utah fan looking in UCLA fans and players on average show tons of class, which matters even more than winning. But even if you just focus on winning, over the years we have played both teams and on average USC hasn’t looked significantly better than UCLA on the field, either. In fact, on average I tend to be a little more scared of UCLA. It’s funny that I even predicted that USC fans would say this was just jealousy of a team that is better than us, conveniently ignoring that UCLA beat us this year, and we beat USC twice. If it was just sour grapes, the team I should be sour towards is definitely UCLA. I certainly wouldn’t describe USC as being “back on top.” Not only did they lose to Utah twice, but if USC had played Oregon and Washington this year I doubt they would even have made it to the conference championship game. They made it because they lucked out on scheduling, not because they are good. If that’s a USC definition of being back on top I’d say that’s a pretty solid commentary on how long it’s been since they have actually genuinely been on top. Don’t get me wrong, they put a decent team on the field this year, but there’s a huge difference between being decent and being “on top.” There is a team on top right now that has shown a lot of class over the years, and I wish them the best. That is Michigan. It may be hard to understand, but showing class and being on top are not mutually exclusive.
I'm a Tennessee fan myself and my personal favorite rivalry is Florida/Tennessee and my 3rs favorite team is UCLA after Memphis so I'm partial to this game but I have to be honest and say that Michigan Ohio State is the number one game with the Red River shoot out 2nd and even USC vs Notre Dame over it. If we rewind time and stop at just the right moment I'd even rank Tennessee vs Alabama over it during that particular time
It is the greatest college sports rivalries in Los Angeles. University of California Los Angeles Bruins and University of Southern California Trojans. The Battle of Los Angeles. The winner of that rivalry will have full control the city Los Angeles.
You should have extended the rivalry to basketball as well as specially when Harold miner was there Trojans won. And how could you not include Cheryl and Reggie Miller
As of 2018, USC has never beaten UCLA in football in the Year of the Dog. UCLA’s first team was fielded in 1929. The teams did not play each other in 1934. UCLA won 13-6 in 1946, the teams tied 15-15 in 1958, UCLA won 45-20 in 1970, UCLA won 20-19 in 1982, UCLA won 31-19 in 1994, UCLA upset USC 13-9 in 2006, and UCLA won 34-27 in 2018. Let’s see what happens in 2030.
More than half of my family are USC alumni so we have a bit of a bias, but when my cousin decided to go to UCLA, it was like she was the black sheep of the family 😅😅
Heismans, I’m re-adding and recognizing Reggie Bush’s Heisman and he should’ve never returned the trophy. When Pat Haden says, “ we expect us to be great on the field and off the field as well.” What he basically meant was Reggie Bush should have been great at NOT being caught off the field like he was at NOT being caught on the field. Every team was paying for players and the one good thing that may have came from the NCAA hypocrisy with Reggie Bush is the NIL rules today. Reggie should have his Heisman Trophy reinstated by both USC and the NCAA at least by USC in defiance of the NCAA hypocrisy. What do you think? UCLA/USC Rivalry aside, what do you all think?
This Rivalry may not be the best, but the most underrated is Kansas V. Mizzou. We hate Kansas over here in Missouri and we hate them so much we kick there Big Brothers ass because we get bored waiting for them to grow some balls to play use on gridiron.
No it's actual U.C.L.A, Notre Dame is just an football game for U.S.C., like the past football games Nebraska vs. Oklahoma, but Colorado was Nebraska rival and Oklahoma State is Oklahoma rival
My father went to USC and UCLA..he had an academic scholarships for 2:years.Got his BS from USC in 62; He said bboth schools were quality...and whike John Wooden and UCLA basketball is respected he was ( i am ) die hard Trojan. He said the family vibe the person ability at SC while UCLa is more youre on youre own..heres the course study ..heres the inoortant dates..readihg m.etc..exams...goodbluck ..SC professors staff and student body carried thenselves as family would..UCLA is larger ahd doesnt gwt as personable....fight on
When the hypocrite Pat Haden says "What happened at the end of Reggie's career was not good," he fails to mention it was HADEN who moronically extended Clay Helton, arguably the worst coach in Trojan history. It was HADEN who spurned Chris Petersen, it was HADEN who didn't have a clue what an athletic director is supposed to do. And likely it was HADEN who wanted the next piece of work--Lynn Swann--as his replacement. Haden did more damage to USC than Bush ever did.
Rivalry? How many natty’s and heisman’s does each school have? When both teams are at their peak. Only one program brings home championships. Usc are the lakers. Ucla are the clippers. We’re the dodgers. UcLa are the angels. The city loves rain rings. We’re the rams. Ucla are the chargers.
C'mon man nobody in LA cares about college football like that. Only time I ever saw ppl wear USC jerseys was during the early 00s. I dont see that shit anymore only time I remotely see USC or UCLA stuff are bumber stickers or license plates with the logos but that's it. Only football jerseys and football talk you get here is NFL, and even then its Raiders,Cowboys,Rams and 49ers.
I get it. its a great rivalry ..... But saying the greates .... come on man.... Ohio state -Michigan Alabama vs. Auburn Army vs. Navy Texas vs. Texas A&M USC vs. Notre Dame Then you wanna tag "greatest game ever" on to them. Its a great rivalry but sorry its no greater than the ones listed above
Born and Raised in Orange County, die hard UCLA fan living in Colorado now. I’m just glad I was able to see them play CU and Utah before the Big10 move.
Cardinal and gold till I die, a Long Beach native living in Utah. UCLA can suck a you know what from my perspective. I respect you good sir... You are wearing powder blue, that speaks volumes.
Rivalries never die.
I still remember that 13-9 victory god that was so satisfying. I went to ucla in 09 and lived in Westwood for 8 years and saw Brett beat sc 3 years in a row, met the football and basketball guys such kind ppl and what an amazing experience.
Trojan fan here but mad respect for Coach Donahue. Great coach, RIP.
Fun fact: with UCLA having played at the Coliseum until 1981, and USC having won a shitload of Rose Bowls, both teams have a winning record in the other's stadium.
I went to UCLA 86-90 and my best friend in high school went to SC, he once confided to me that Trojans are much more intense in their hatred of the Bruins because 4 out of 5 of them got rejected by UCLA when they applied 😂
What an awesome documentary!! as a Navy veteran, I thought Army-Navy had some punch behind it. This makes me want to go to a game one year! Go Bruins!
If you go to one at the Rose Bowl, do not sit in Sections 22-27. I made that mistake. That is the visitor’s section. I was with about ten other UCLA fans surrounded by USC fans.
Both "Home" Jerseys circa 1979 were Fantastic! Best ever.
USC versus UCLA is such a classic -PAC 12- Big Ten rivalry.
-but it will NEVER hold a candle to the only CFB rivalry with its' roots in a real, honest-to-goodness WAR.
That's right, Los Angeles. Your intra-city battle does not hold a candle to Michigan-Ohio State...and I am a native Angeleno who grew up watching the Ten Year War in the morning, and the Battle of LA in the afternoon, on the third Saturday of November.
@@GrizrazRex Keep telling yourself that. Nobody except those 2 states care about that game.
Fight on ✌️🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈 USC
Shout Out from Ventura County (805)
💙(UC🌹LA)🏆(GO🐻BRUINS)💛
USC Trojans fan here born in California raised in Alabama. Just want to thank you the video
I was born and raised in Los Angeles, California. Right up the street from USC. Now that I live in Colorado, I still declare my Trojan fandom. I even dress up my five-year-old daughter in Trojan gear. And now that Colorado is in the Pac 12, I make sure to claim Colorado as Trojan country. #FightOn My #TributeToTroy
you picked the right year to make this; the game one week later was one of the best in this series' history
The Best period I lived it and I'm from NEW Jersey it never gets old tw # 6 78-82 RIP LW #82 my brother
Great job Paul and all! great cause love you fight on! Got to love a Bruin without them there can't be a Trojan and vice versa RIP to whom has transitioned on to there next journey
Dude whoever uploaded this. You’re a legend. I been looking for this for about 5 years. Thank you. Hope you have a great Xmas. 😊
This is cool I grew up in North Jersey and mostly saw Penn State and Pitt regionally. Loved Michigan vs Ohio State around Thanksgiving. But the west coast football culture has always fascinated me because I usually watched the Rose Bowl. Very interesting…
Thank you for uploading this.
I really enjoyed this documentary!
Incredible documentary! Thank you. I was at the same high school at the same time with one person who spoke here.
Pat Haden. He never lost a conference game as USC QB, and he never lost at the Coliseum. And he went totally gangster on Lane Kiffin later on as AD.
RIP Terry Donohue. He was the greatest UCLA football HC ever.
@Will Muny USC Football had ELEVEN years of NCAA sanctions from the Reggie Bush saga.
this was beautiful on every level. thank you, thank you, thank you!!
Beautiful.
As a Die Hard USC Trojans fan R.I.P. Terry Donohue
Cant wait for them both to be a part of the BIG 10
Of all the sports and rivalries, I love this one the best, there's a strong hatred for each other, but theres usually a lot of love too. I've taken shots with ucla fans at the rose bowl when SC was getting pummeled and even got a ride from the coli from a UCLA fan when my car wasn't starting. Its a lot like a sibling rivalry
John Barnes! Forever a UCLA legend.
marinovich Flippin off roman Phifer in that 90 battle was iconic
I'm so glad both teams are wearing their home uniforms during the game Again
Love 💘 and Hate that bond the two LA Schools together in all sports not limited to football; hence it's the best rivalry in college sports you can check for yourselves the number of all collegiate sports championships between the two unmatched by any rivalry.
Boy, the way OJ Simpson SLASHED through that defense was unreal. He was a sure KILLER on the field....and off the field as well.
Now that's a movie thank you for This 💯 fight on ✌️🏈🏈🏈
Well produced documentary, it’s true no rivalry is cross-town like this one, other rivals are the state rivalry that are so distantly apart while USC and Brentwood school are less than 30 miles apart, the children Halloween is so rivalry based 😂
*Westwood
As a Utah fan, I have no idea how I went down the TH-cam rabbit hole enough to be watching this. But I will say while we have had difficult losses to both teams over the years and good wins over both teams over the years, I have always had tons of respect for the UCLA team and fans. The UCLA fans show a lot of class. When the UCLA fans got off the bus and the first thing they did was put flowers on the 22-yard line to honor our murdered players it left many of us in tears as a reminder that our humanity and brotherhood off the field is more important than the moments of rivalry on the field. UCLA fans aren't so entitled that they expect that due to the name and tradition of their school and their ability to write big checks that means they are somehow owed conference championships and national championships. UCLA fans don't expect coaches to do the impossible and come in and turn around an average team into a national championship team in one or two years.
On the other hand, a certain contingent of USC fans are just nasty, spoiled, entitled, arrogant brats. I feel bad for any coaches stupid enough to take the check and prestige USC dangles in front of them because even if you take an average team and manage to go to the PAC-12 Championship and only lose two games in the season - both to Utah, one time only by 1 point, and you managed to stay in the Football Playoff conversation until the very end of the season, you will still have some very vocal fans already calling for your head. USC fans have zero patience and zero understanding that building something real takes time. If we at Utah had fired Whittingham before he had a chance to build his program we would never have had any success. If football is only about tradition and money, why even play the games? Why don't we just start a bidding war for the national championship trophy and let the team that is willing to pay the most for it have the trophy? The only reason most people enjoy college football so much is precisely because you can't buy the national championship or be given the trophy today simply because you were the best 50 years ago or 150 years ago. Sure, for some reason money and a programs success from prior years does give certain programs a significant unfair advantage, but even with that unfair advantage at the end of the day every program still has to prove it where it counts - on the field. Some teams have the name and the money, and some teams have an incredible ability to build something with very little prestige and almost no money. I will always find the latter more impressive. And even if your players really are dominate, what have the fans themselves actually accomplished that makes them think they have earned the right to not treat other fans as human beings when we are not actually in competition? It may come as a shock to them, but there are things that are way more important than football, and there are times when it is more important for us to come together as fellow human beings.
I'm sure there are plenty of USC fans that think this is just sour grapes from a jealous Utah fan, and I'm sure nothing I say will change their minds. But this year we actually lost to UCLA, and we beat USC both times, so the team this year that should bother me more is UCLA. Also, I know USC is leaving the PAC-12, but in theory so is UCLA. With USC, my feeling is the way they are doing it is rewarding their nasty, selfish behavior, so in general I hate that bad behavior is being rewarded, but on the other hand I know I am with a bunch of PAC-12 fans who are saying, "Good riddance. I hope the door (doesn't) hit you on the way out." Getting rid of USC is honestly probably worth the loss of money and recruitment opportunities they gave to the conference. With UCLA I have the exact opposite reaction. I believe they have earned some good fortune and deserve it. Whether or not it will prove to be good fortune after taking into account the travel, etc. remains to be seen, but if it does prove to be a good move for them I wish them luck. I would absolutely love to see UCLA dominate the Big 10 in as many sports as possible in the near future - especially football and men's basketball since I actually watch those. But UCLA will genuinely be missed. Yes, both USC and UCLA leaving are destabilizing the conference, and as a Utah fan I have enjoyed being in a stable PAC-12 for a few years. I am definitely sad about UCLA contributing to that destabilization, but I also can't fault them for making the move that they think will be an amazing opportunity for their program. I admit, I kind of am hoping the Cal Board of Regents votes to block the move because that is absolutely the best outcome for Utah, and as much as I respect UCLA my first loyalty will always be what's best for my Utes. I'm also not completely convinced a move to the Big 10 is the dream those making the decisions think it will be. Sure, at first there will be more money, but sometimes sacrifices a program makes for more money today can result in less money in the future after taking into account the travel not only for the players but also for the fans and also taking into account that there is a certain power that comes from being a big fish in a small pond that you lose becoming a small fish in a big pond. I'm not convinced the Big 10 is really that much bigger of a pond in terms of competition than the PAC-12, but in terms of prestige and teams that have prestige it is certainly different. UCLA will probably not have as big of an adjustment because they haven't been trading on their prestige in the PAC-12 as much as USC has, but USC could be in for a real shock. USC has enough power in the PAC-12 to make sure they never have to schedule any games that are likely to be in the snow. They won't have that power in the Big 10. USC stole many of the best players and assistant coaches from other teams in the PAC-12 using their superior brand recognition and superior budget knowing those players will not be making a huge adjustment because they will still be playing in most of the same venues. However, in the Big 10 suddenly they might be on the other end of that trend when The Ohio State is using its superior budget and superior national recognition and storied tradition to steal all of USC's best players. That may not sound like a big deal now, but if it continues for enough years that USC starts having regular losing seasons their program may lose a huge amount of its prestige and marketability, and next time it comes to negotiating with a conference they may not be in as strong of a position and that decision to take money today could theoretically result in less bargaining power and thus less money in the future. Sure, it's probably unlikely something that extreme would happen, but it's also certainly not unprecedented. Like I said, I think this is a bigger problem for USC than UCLA. This is because USC's strategy is to build its success on being the big fish in the pond, and that strategy doesn't work when you aren't the big fish anymore. UCLA has clearly built other strategies beyond just trading on their name recognition and budget, so they have practice making alternative strategies for success work for them.
Anyway, I doubt anyone will ever read any of what I just wrote. I mainly wrote it to get it out of my system. But if any UCLA fans do read this, know that I'm pretty sure most of the conference has a ton of respect for your fans and your program, and although we will miss you we wish you the absolute best in your new conference once you get there. It does hurt the rest of the conference that you are leaving, but I think most of us understand that while we hate it you have to do what is right for your program and seize the opportunities when they come. What you have built has a lot more substance than the USC program and has impacts both on and off the field. USC has a lot of flash, but at least for now that substance is really missing. Any program should be able to do well with a big budget and name recognition, especially when you are able to poach everyone else's hard work. Even if it succeeds, that strategy will never be impressive or earn my respect. It's the programs that are able to take the 2 star recruits and teach them discipline and skills and transform them into 4 or 5 star players, and that more importantly teach all of the players to be good citizens OFF the field that are actually creating anything of value, and at least right now UCLA seems to be doing a really good job of that. There are very few rivalries that I as an outsider to the rivalry can say one school/team/fanbase clearly and consistently outclasses the other side of the rivalry, but in the UCLA/USC rivalry I think there is a very clear winner, and it is UCLA. Sure, I know some people will say when it comes to a football rivalry all that matters in the end score. Although what happens off the field really is more important, the score does matter. I have no idea from personal knowledge how both teams looked decades ago, but I can say for all of the hype that always seems to surround USC even when on the field they are putting out a subpar product, in our years in the PAC-12 I can also solidly say I haven't noticed that USC has significantly outclassed UCLA on the field, either. Sure, there are some seasons/games where one team has clearly been better than another, but overall both teams have had up years and down years, and both teams have had years where they have caused us Ute fans a lot of anxiety. So while I'm sure those who are blinded by USC's flash will disagree, from my perspective UCLA is an equal competitor on the field, but both on and off the field their sportsmanship and class completely eclipses USC.
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An astute commentary on The Cross Town Rivalry.
My father played at Stanford, my older brother played at USC, I played at UCLA. My brother and I are retired College and High School Football Coaches in our eighties. Of course the annual shoot out is big in our respective families. While we kid each other and have bragging rights for one year, we both know it's all in fun.
All of us in the coaching profession know that USC has a tradition of buying the skill position players resulting in year in and year out having the most physically talented team in the nation. However, bought and paid for athlete's often display lack of character i.e. OJ and Reggie. USC "fans" most who have never played a down of college football, ignore the quality of character and justify the "just win baby" attitude exemplified by a former USC assistant coach by the name of Al Davis.
Kyle Wittingham and Chip Kelly have built programs from the ground up. Hats off to both.
Unfortunately College Football has embraced the "Portal Transfer System" effectively creating a semi-pro situation and a new Portal recruiting season. This is detrimental to the sport I love.
The silver lining is that USC can no longer control the weather as they did with Notre Dame playing at home the last game of the season last Saturday in November but playing at Notre Dame in early October so the poor little SoCal boys wouldn't get cold! Hats off to the Offensive genius Lincoln Riley for bringing half of the OU team including a Heisman Trophy QB to LA, only to lose twice in the same season to the Utes 😂.
The PAC 12 WILL be fine with Utah, Oregon (Nike $), Oregon State, Washington, WAZU, and maybe a resurgent Tree Team.
@@williedouglass5137 Well said. Thanks for the perspective as well.
TLDR: he hates that USC is back on top and such an established big national brand which Utah will never achieve in his lifetime, so he ends up being a UCLA stan instead.
@@snakeydoo The real TL:DR - From a Utah fan looking in UCLA fans and players on average show tons of class, which matters even more than winning. But even if you just focus on winning, over the years we have played both teams and on average USC hasn’t looked significantly better than UCLA on the field, either. In fact, on average I tend to be a little more scared of UCLA.
It’s funny that I even predicted that USC fans would say this was just jealousy of a team that is better than us, conveniently ignoring that UCLA beat us this year, and we beat USC twice. If it was just sour grapes, the team I should be sour towards is definitely UCLA. I certainly wouldn’t describe USC as being “back on top.” Not only did they lose to Utah twice, but if USC had played Oregon and Washington this year I doubt they would even have made it to the conference championship game. They made it because they lucked out on scheduling, not because they are good. If that’s a USC definition of being back on top I’d say that’s a pretty solid commentary on how long it’s been since they have actually genuinely been on top. Don’t get me wrong, they put a decent team on the field this year, but there’s a huge difference between being decent and being “on top.”
There is a team on top right now that has shown a lot of class over the years, and I wish them the best. That is Michigan. It may be hard to understand, but showing class and being on top are not mutually exclusive.
Where can I purchase a copy of this documentary on DVD? Fight On!
U.C.L.A!!! Fight fight !! 🏈🟡🔵🐻🌹🏟️
FIGHT ON!
a great program
By the way this is an multi sport rivalry (basketball, baseball, soccer, gymnastics, volleyball)
I'm a Tennessee fan myself and my personal favorite rivalry is Florida/Tennessee and my 3rs favorite team is UCLA after Memphis so I'm partial to this game but I have to be honest and say that Michigan Ohio State is the number one game with the Red River shoot out 2nd and even USC vs Notre Dame over it. If we rewind time and stop at just the right moment I'd even rank Tennessee vs Alabama over it during that particular time
Beban may have lost that day, but won the Heisman! However , he never tried to decapitate 2 people
get over it
and Reggie Bush.
I had my cars tires slashed, cussed at, flipped off, threatened, yelled out, and I hadn’t even parked the car.
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It is the greatest college sports rivalries in Los Angeles. University of California Los Angeles Bruins and University of Southern California Trojans. The Battle of Los Angeles. The winner of that rivalry will have full control the city Los Angeles.
That is probably the 4th or 5 the Best Rival in the Land!
McKay should’ve stayed at USC and left TB alone when they got the Bucs in expansion.
it's really not a city divided. there's some extreme fans, but most of it is in good faith.
You should have extended the rivalry to basketball as well as specially when Harold miner was there Trojans won. And how could you not include Cheryl and Reggie Miller
My wife, her uncle is Ronnie Lott
As of 2018, USC has never beaten UCLA in football in the Year of the Dog. UCLA’s first team was fielded in 1929. The teams did not play each other in 1934. UCLA won 13-6 in 1946, the teams tied 15-15 in 1958, UCLA won 45-20 in 1970, UCLA won 20-19 in 1982, UCLA won 31-19 in 1994, UCLA upset USC 13-9 in 2006, and UCLA won 34-27 in 2018. Let’s see what happens in 2030.
More than half of my family are USC alumni so we have a bit of a bias, but when my cousin decided to go to UCLA, it was like she was the black sheep of the family 😅😅
Love how SC people like to deride UCLA as the Basketball School but still hate their football team.
Heismans, I’m re-adding and recognizing Reggie Bush’s Heisman and he should’ve never returned the trophy. When Pat Haden says, “ we expect us to be great on the field and off the field as well.” What he basically meant was Reggie Bush should have been great at NOT being caught off the field like he was at NOT being caught on the field. Every team was paying for players and the one good thing that may have came from the NCAA hypocrisy with Reggie Bush is the NIL rules today. Reggie should have his Heisman Trophy reinstated by both USC and the NCAA at least by USC in defiance of the NCAA hypocrisy. What do you think? UCLA/USC Rivalry aside, what do you all think?
USC, UCLA is a rivalry? Must be a night game on the left coast 😴 Everyone east of the Rocky Mountains is asleep. I'll try and catch a replay sometime
Classic documentary but for me our biggest rivalry will always be USC vs Notre Dame ✌️
O.J. Simpson and other USC players have said otherwise.
I think other rivalries are better like Osu and Michigan. Florida Fsu Alabama Auburn. The difference is this is in the same city
This Rivalry may not be the best, but the most underrated is Kansas V. Mizzou. We hate Kansas over here in Missouri and we hate them so much we kick there Big Brothers ass because we get bored waiting for them to grow some balls to play use on gridiron.
This must be kind of old because Matt said there was no professional football in LA
History of the rivalry from 1929 to 2015. Brought it back out because of how big the game is this year.
This absolutely is not the biggest rivalry in college football. Cool it
What's funny is that USC's #1 football rival is Notre Dame not UCLA
No it's actual U.C.L.A, Notre Dame is just an football game for U.S.C., like the past football games Nebraska vs. Oklahoma, but Colorado was Nebraska rival and Oklahoma State is Oklahoma rival
Big game yes, biggest rivalry in college ball...uh no
Then what game is?
Michigan vs Ohio state
Army vs Navy, Michigan vs Ohio State, Auburn vs Alabama, Oklahoma vs Texas are all bigger rivalries than the battle for LA. Just to name a few
@@isaacparry1295 for football maybe but in college sports nothing is bigger
@@v.a.entertainment1889 the video is literally titled the history of the USC UCLA football rivalry. We are talking about football here
A great rivalry, but "Nothing else like it?"”. Miami vs FSU?
¿But is Miami vs. Florida State is actually an rivalry game? i believe Florida State actual rival is Florida not Miami
Shoes
What about Ohio State vs Michigan? Alabama vs Auburn?West Virginia vs Pitt
My father went to USC and UCLA..he had an academic scholarships for 2:years.Got his BS from USC in 62; He said bboth schools were quality...and whike John Wooden and UCLA basketball is respected he was ( i am ) die hard Trojan. He said the family vibe the person ability at SC while UCLa is more youre on youre own..heres the course study ..heres the inoortant dates..readihg m.etc..exams...goodbluck
..SC professors staff and student body carried thenselves as family would..UCLA is larger ahd doesnt gwt as personable....fight on
Julie’s Trojan Barrel.
As a USC fan i hate Notre Dame more than i hate UCLA🤷✌️♥️💛
SC will always be UCLA little brother!!!!
Scoreboard says otherwise. Wins, chips, Roses, and Heismans. ✌️😎✌️
I don’t know about lol😂
Lol bad joke ? It’s the other way around fUCLA , is Trojans lil sister every and their mother knows it
Ohio State/Michigan, Nebraska/Oklahoma much bigger rivalry
Ohio State / michigan...It is called The Game for a reason.
It is THE Rivalry of all rivalries.
Looks like we have to agree to disagree. Welcome to the B1G
When the hypocrite Pat Haden says "What happened at the end of Reggie's career was not good," he fails to mention it was HADEN who moronically extended Clay Helton, arguably the worst coach in Trojan history. It was HADEN who spurned Chris Petersen, it was HADEN who didn't have a clue what an athletic director is supposed to do. And likely it was HADEN who wanted the next piece of work--Lynn Swann--as his replacement. Haden did more damage to USC than Bush ever did.
I remember when I found out Reggie Bush scored a 720 on the SAT, yet received a scholarship and degree.
Rivalry? How many natty’s and heisman’s does each school have? When both teams are at their peak. Only one program brings home championships. Usc are the lakers. Ucla are the clippers. We’re the dodgers. UcLa are the angels. The city loves rain rings. We’re the rams. Ucla are the chargers.
UCLA are the Lakers (11 men's basketball titles). USC are the Clippers (0 men's basketball titles). Otherwise, I have no arguments.
Go Trojans
32:44 ncis couldn’t save Mark Harmon 😂
Word. I said the same thing to my gf.
C'mon man nobody in LA cares about college football like that. Only time I ever saw ppl wear USC jerseys was during the early 00s. I dont see that shit anymore only time I remotely see USC or UCLA stuff are bumber stickers or license plates with the logos but that's it. Only football jerseys and football talk you get here is NFL, and even then its Raiders,Cowboys,Rams and 49ers.
It was once divided, today is all one sided leaning on the Trojan side
Ha UCLA 8 straight but haven't won 8 games since they're 6-18 Fight On ✌️
I get it. its a great rivalry ..... But saying the greates .... come on man....
Ohio state -Michigan
Alabama vs. Auburn
Army vs. Navy
Texas vs. Texas A&M
USC vs. Notre Dame
Then you wanna tag "greatest game ever" on to them.
Its a great rivalry but sorry its no greater than the ones listed above
Give Bush back his trophy.
This rivalry has always been pretty weak..😊
Let’s calm down with this “biggest rivalry” stuff 😂
Give me a break
Michigan vs ohio state enters the chat 😂😂😂
It's nowhere near. Plus this is a true multi sport rivalry. Athletic programs vs Athletic programs
Everybody knows the Heisman and NCAA need to give back the Heisman to Reggie
Lol ah no. You need to head to watch Auburn Alabama or Michigan Ohio State
Oj seems to be kept away. Why not talk about the double murder?
I like USC football and UCLA basketball. No rivalry there.
yeah a lot of people in LA are like that too.
Lol y'all are delusional if you think sc ucla is bigger than Michigan Ohio state
I’m sorry bruins fan , but UCLA is not even our main concern we care abt NATTY and beating notre dame . UCLA is like our little sister 😂
That don't make it not U.S.C. rival, U.C.L.A. is U.S.C. rival not Notre Dame
UCLA sucks! SC runs LA! ✌🏽
Tailgate parties at the coliseum don't forget to feed the rats.
Cheat Carroll and crooked Mike Garrett hmm best team money could buy...
Do they even play defense in Los Angeles??