History of the Beretta 92 Series
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This should be interesting.
Someday, maybe we'll get a history of the CZ-75 series.
I’d love to see that. Maybe he would have to do the browning hi power before since it was someone derived from it.
@@FishFind3000 oh I'd say more than "somewhat" but agreed.
That would be like a two hour video.
Yes please!
Small Arms Solutions did do a video on the CZ-75 but I don’t know how much Chris delved into it’s history.
I've owned my 92FS for 15 years. 6,000 rounds no malfunctions. The most reliable pistol I own. 😊
Since now owning all metal frame 1911's, 1911 a1's and now the Beretta 92, I don't think I'll ever desire to use or buy a polymer frame anything.
I can say the same with my iwi masada ive had for 3 years, no jams, misfeeds, ect. I sold my first handgun a gen 2 g17 for it, my glock was older than me. No complaints.
@@Roboticdoughbull3kim in the same boat i love my iwi masada but after i got my 1911, even though its a rock island i fell in love at first shot. That weight, feel of full metal is unmatched.
In 2017 the military of Oman selected the Beretta 92 as it's new handgun (replacing the old Browning Hi-Power). The order was for 10,000 guns, IIRC. It says a lot for the Beretta to win that award in a world full of polymer handguns. It beat out three or four other European competitors.
Outstanding video, as always.
Do you think lack of polymer is why the US military dumped the M9?
@@markp4401 No, they just wanted to move on from Beretta.
One reason Hollywood loves the Beretta 92 is they are very easy to be modified to reliably fire blanks without any differences on the outside. For a 9mm pistol to reliably cycle with blanks it basically needs to be converted to work as a straight blowback, which for the 92 just means not installing the locking block, for something like a glock you need a barrel that doesn't have a locking block which is more expensive and the Glock doesn't look right in close-ups, you need to swap out a deactivated prop gun with a blank firing pistol, this is a little obvious in some scenes.
If you want the close up pistol shots, especially in slow motion for John Woo's films... you need the Beretta 92.
Now I think later they worked around this problem so that blanks could fire even from pistols with their locking block intact, but in the 80s and 90s the 92 was the "star".
The timing of this video is impeccable as I just purchased a commercial M9 a week ago. So happy to be apart of the Beretta family!
if yours didn't come with a G series decocker, it's a big recommend. Enjoy her! If you can't find a suitable holster, surplus UM-84's are cheap and great!
You won’t believe this but I was going to write this very same comment. I am planning to buy a 92 or 96 series beretta myself, and suddenly this video shows up. Unbelievable synchronicity.
Good move. I hope they start making the M9A1 again soon.
It’s “a part of” not “apart of”
You’re welcome
Just put an M9 commercial on layaway 👍
The Beretta 92FS was my first handgun, and it is still one of my favorites. Thanks for the video!
By far my favorite pistol. The only malfunctions I ever had with them has been with a batch of reloads I bought that were severely underpowered, and a few with my wife's 92fs that were caused by an aging surplus GI magazine. A phenomenal pistol that is just as legendary as the 1911.
Love the history!! Please do more like this! Keep up the good informative work!!
The best handguns I tried in range I can vouch for...
Springfield Operator 1911
Beretta M9
Heckler and Koch USP 45 Tactical
Sig Sauer Navy P226
FN FNX 45 Tactical
*Anything with a hammer I'll try.
You do the best detailed reviews on the Beretta 92 series, very informative and well put together 👍.
Having been around for the conversion from M1911A1 to M9, I can say this: Yes, our M1911A1s were beat to hell, and the M1911 was ready to be retired as a platform. However, the M9 was a problematic handgun for a lot of Marines I served with. The recoil was much more manageable of course, but the M9 is a BIG handgun. Troops with smaller hands, especially Females and the younger guys had real problems grasping the pistol correctly, and the double action trigger was all but unreachable for some of them without thumb cocking the pistol. They would also have problems reaching the magazine release.
A small minority I suspect. You can’t please everyone.
When the M9 was in the armorers room were they doing the proper preventative maintenance on the pistols. Or were they like a lot of other units where they just shot them until they broke or just beat the hell out of it until they didn't work at all.
It's a big mofo.
It's my opinion that replacement was a mistake. The upgrade package was fine.
Yeah why did they try to fix something that wasn’t broke.
I've only had the Taurus PT 92 and loved it.
Does anybody here know anybody who manufactures the single stack magazines for the 92sb type M
Thank you for this video. I used to be a 1911 only guy, until I learned about the 92 series. I haven't been able to get my hands on one yet, but if I could only have one pistol, it would be a 92.
You should review the 92 XI. It’s awesome, my only complaint is it dosent come with a wraparound grip. I ordered a pair of G10 wraparounds made specifically for the XI from LOK grips.
INOX comes from French "inoxidable" and is now international for stainless steel. :) Thanks for the Video. Cheers from Switzerland, Victor
Awesome video thank you…as a young man I shot a lot of these versions of Berettas and I have wanted to buy one recently….
This video has made me decide 92FS or M9A4 …for myself but truly appreciate your time !
Why is there so little info out about the all steel 92? Not the inox, that still has the aluminum frame. They made an all steel gun at one point in the vertec frame, I believe. I've always considered it a unicorn gun that I would love to have, but nobody seems to remember them.
I own a 92s a sig p226 and a CZ 75, I briefly owned a p320 which was subpar to any of the others I still own
I'm from Hungary and whilst our gun culture is almost non-existent here, the 92 does have a tiny cult following (mostly from games and films). I've just ordered my first handgun, an M9A3 and I'm hoping it will arrive in 4-6 months fresh from Italy. It's a fantastic modern evolution to a legendary classic and I dare to say, it's still Beretta's best handgun (even beating the M9A4 and trading blows with the 92X Peformance). With this, I'm going to join the handful of Beretta handgun owners in the country and I'm fairly certain that I'll be one of the few Hungarian sport shooters who has an M9A3.
Why is it better than those two
Great to hear sir. How is your Beretta doing in Hungary? Winning at all the matches I bet!
I just inherited my father-in-law‘s 92F. He was 93 years old. Purchased it brand new and It was never fired. After disassembling it to inspect it. It only appears to have what the factory tested it put through it with very little wear on anything inside the weapon. One thing I can’t find anything on is the serial number range for the 92F. What were the serial numbers in the first phase of government testing? What were the serial numbers in the second phase of government testing? Why is it every Beretta I own the Beretta corporation has no record of the serial number? I’m gonna hit you up with an email with pictures.
Probably one of the prettiest pistol designs of all time. Die Hard and Lethal Weapon made it a superstar, and it was the perfect pistol for that spotlight....curvy and powerful. Like a sports car.
I have a 92FS I bought in the mid 1990's I still carry around the rural property I live on. It has only ever failed me when I did night qualification for a security job after being up over 18 hours before I started shooting. I was not holding the grip right after shooting all day.
Surprised there was no mention of the Argentinian Bursa company. Argentine adopted the 92S in the 1970's. The deal was the same as Brazil he mentioned. Company now trades as a private company called Bursa. I have a Bursa 380 Thunder. Looks just like a miniature 92FS. Manual of arms is the same. Take down is different of course because the barrel is fixed.
Beretta 92X RDO Full Size looks to be based off the M2A4...
Great info, I have a mint 92 with the box and paper work. The non cut slide… Ive been on the fence about letting it go…. But just can’t do it
love my M9, my 92fs with guide rod laser(bought it that way), and my Beretta Model 84 as well. All are well made and have been superbly reliable.
I was lucky enough to find a 92 SB in the case in my local gun shop one day. I snatched it immediately. Awesome find
Best Beretta history channel I've ever had the prvilege of really of enjoying! Thank you! Berreta 92 FS forever! 😃
Yes one of my favorites also. Started out with Colt 1911s and Browning Hi Power but I found that Beretta 92 is probably one of the best pistols ever made.
Spaghetti 🍝 Blaster 🔫 🤌🏻❤
I've had several versions of 92, with my favorite being the 92A1. A LTT 92 RDO has been at the top of my bucket list for a long time
I'm shocked you didn't pull out a Samurai edge lol😂
Another very educational video. Great job!
No idea that you worked on the laser guide rod. I've always been amazed that it didn't become a more ubiquitous option. Just genius. I'm a Taurus fanboy, and they will never make one for the G Series, so O-Light it is. Thanks for all the great work and great videos.
So, if I’m understanding this correctly, on regard to 9mm NATO ball ammo, even when loaded correctly with reduced powder compared to commercial Luger, gets higher pressure and higher velocity than commercial (1170-1200 fps). So that being the case, if reloading 9mm NATO cases, one should be careful and not load too high compared to what the 9mm Luger loading data shows in your manual because the cup sits higher than the shells the manual is recommending for Luger. And when doing so, staying well below the max load listed for Luger, you can duplicate 9mm NATO velocity. (Using a 9mm 124 gr FMJ and Power Pistol or AA7 powder)
Correct. Load separate nato cases
Over 30 thousand rounds and still going no jams and in all conditions
Not really a Beretta fan, but your review here has made it very interesting. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, knowledge, and experience with these fine pistols. (My favorite Europeans are CZ.)
The Beretta 92F-series truly is the best metal 9mm out there. I’d say the CZ 75 B and BD models are nearly shoulder to shoulder with the 92F, but the Beretta has the edge. Next in my opinion is the Browning Hi Power, with Springfield’s SA-35 being the best Hi Power ever made and better than the original. Just my opinions as I own all of these guns. Today, I feel that the best overall combat down-n-dirty 9mm is the Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS. Hands down, it’s the winner for professional (LE/Military) use in the trenches. It ain’t pretty, it’s not the most accurate, and it doesn’t feel the best in one’s hands but, …it’s the toughest and most dependable. The Glock 22 (.40), Glock 31 (.357Sig), Glock 21 (.45) are all in the same category/class as the Glock 17-series.
Great info, Alex Jones! No offence intended mate. This video was just what I was looking for, liked and subd.
I dont know who Alex Jones is
great video! just picked up my first beretta today and it just happens to be a 92sb too, really like it so far!
Is the 'Holy Grail' of Berettas' their newer 92X Performance/Defense series pistols..??
You mention the Beretta 92SB (for the Air Force). Is the slide compatible with the 92 FS? Does the SB version have the same "safety features" as the FS.
The FS required the slide stop notch to go on the frame with the enlarged hammer pin/slide captive pin
Nice collection! I was issued the M9 from 1987-1998. Loved it. I like my Girsan Turkish copy too. I notice the Girsan has a different locking block/slide cutout and wonder if that is another way of improving that part's service life? The Girsan copy has picked up some military and police contracts too. So far it seems to be as reliable as the Berettas I've had. Good guns (M1911, P35, CZ75, M92) get copied.
Great informative video. Having been issued both M-9 and M-11 pistols, I much preferred the M-11.
So there is something interesting about the barrel ramp and reliable feeding. It's conventionally believed that designs that use a ramp will be less reliable when feeding certain ammunition but for whatever reason the S&W 4506 challenges this. That gun is capable of feeding, chambering, and extracting an entire magazine of empty casings. How does it do that?
I have an M9A3 and love it. I've always wanted an M9A1 and I don't know why, I just do. That and a 92FS Inox of course.
I want those two also and neither is very available right now.
Extremely well built and accurate pistol. The Turkish knockoffs are pretty good also. Another well researched video.
For those of us of smaller stature, the Compact series is a hidden gem, especially those with the Vertec grip. The Vertec grips make a world of difference.
There's ultra slim grips for the 92 series from VZ grips and Langdon that can also help quite a bit on the full size 92s
At first glance it looks like the 92X grip is closer the being at a right angle to the barrel when compared to the 92FS or M9. It may just be an optical illusion though.
Hello,
A strange format to ask this. Were you in Western NY at a diner for breakfast this Sunday 11/13? Love your videos.
Yes
Hi Chris, could you explain the logic behind the post-dot sight on the M9? I've never seen it on any other pistol. Also, where can I FIND a Brigadier slide?
I've wondered about the CMP getting any.
Bummer.
Ya, that’s not gunna happen
About what year did the FS model come out? Also, the D model was missing. Still, this was a great video of a pistol, that I once distrusted and now can easily trust my life with it! Still would love to see an S-1 model.
Beretta 92's....solid handgun, a little spread out in the grip as far as controls go so the ergo's are effected by that if your someone with smaller mitts...other then that it's very well made and is reliable enough to go to Hell and back.
I'm a younger guy and started out shooting Glocks, for many years I was a Glock guy until I bought an M9A1, and I shot better with it off the bat than any Glock I had shot up until then. It was a no brainer for me. Sold my Glocks and invested into the 92 series "platform" which I now use to shoot competitively with. My Langdon LTT Elite is my EDC, duty, and competition gun. My only issue with them is how heavy they are compared to Glocks, relatively speaking of course. Because the Beretta 92 is still pretty lightweight at only 33oz, which is pretty light compared to most metal framed pistols which tip the scales at 40+ ounces.
Also, people say the Berettas have monster grips but I just don't find this to be true and most actual shooters don't either. If anything they have somewhat of a smallish/compact grip compared to other pistols. Even more so when you put some ultra slim grips. Fits my hand better than a Glock 17 I'll tell you that much. I think the biggest hurdle for these guns for most people is the fact they're DA/SA. Like that Navy Seal you had on who said he just doesn't like DA/SA, despite the fact competitive shooters have mastered and even prefer DA/SA. These guns are still relevant because if I recall correctly JJ Recaza just recently won USPSA carry optics with an M9A4, and he's a pretty small stature guy with small hands. Don't let the myths of Berettas having huge grips deter you from using one of the sweetest shooting pistols ever made. Highly underrated firearm within the shooting community, even if it's overrated in media.
Yeah I agree with everything you say. Maybe the M9 could be made with some polymer to lighten it up. I’m a little jealous. I want an M9A1 badly but Beretta isn’t producing them right now. I couldn’t get a straight answer from them on whether or not the model is discontinued.
@@markp4401 I don't believe they have discontinued them. They just make them in batches. Its the only rail having model in California, and they make a lot of money selling those here. When they'll make a new batch, who knows. But they should since they recently paid for the license to keep it legal in CA.
@@paddypibblet846 Can’t you also purchase a 92A1? It has a 1913 rail.
@@markp4401 No, unfortunately it's not on the roster. A big bummer otherwise believe me I'd own it by now. I'm hoping to acquire a little Beretta collection but being a Commiefornian makes it near impossible.
@@paddypibblet846 California is an interesting state to me. I’ve had great times there. I enjoy going there very much. It’d be one of the last states I’d want to live in though.
got 92s under 400 love its look want to get more them had a cz clone kind before and they felt neck and neck for what few times i can go
Does anyone know if it’s true or not that Beretta has discontinued the m9a1 and 92a1?
I have a 92F from the 80s. Really pretty piece and works well too.
Awesome video Chris! Do you think there is any difference in the parts life between the plastic commercial m9 and metal contract parts?
Does the M9 commercial come with the improved barrel lock piece, or do I need to get an FS or M9A1?
Yes, it has all the updates
Excellent video. I've got a Beretta M1951 and a Helwan. They are nice, reliable pistols.
Why was it called 92?
Have to ask Beretta
My 92S has a trigger reset as short as a 1911, one advantage to not having the firing pin block.
Nice overview of the 92 Series! A couple of years ago, my local Cabela's was selling a brand new 92A1 (Marine Corps Variant), for $599.99 It was the last one in stock. My wife knew I always wanted a 92 (especially the Marne Corps Variant, as I had been a Marine). She gave me the "Green Light" so to speak to buy it. I've always wanted one since Lethal Weapon and Diehard! The price was so good that even my regular local gun store that we do business with, and would usually price match, said they couldn't have beaten that price that I paid, and that I got a really good deal. I ended up sending it off to Wilson Combat and had it customized with their silicon trigger and a host of other enhancements. I now own the kind of firearm that is not only battle tested, handsome to behold (as the 92 Series are), and a gun you would want to hand down to your child as a legacy gun (though hopefully not for a few more decades!). I appreciate your detailed and insightful knowledge regarding small arms. Keep up the fine content!!!
Great video! My favorite handgun thanks to Ernest Langdon. I had a little eperience with the Beretta in the Army woth the M9 and never thought much about it. Then when the Elite LTT came out I decided I needed a 92 in my life and it started a love for the 92.
Nice job Chris and Heather. I’ve always wondered under what conditions the Brigadier slide is truly needed. When is it a must and when is it superfluous? Any feedback would be appreciated.
There are 9 Beretta pistols in my pile. Will not hesitate to add more given the op. My ole' 1951 Brigadier is still a high performer. 👍 Great video.
92x Performance is a fantastic version. Steel frame, thus almost no recoil, better grip angle, frame safety (where it should have been all along) accurate and runs all the cheap ammo like match ammo for me.. also the factory case is excellent. Not inexpensive, but worth every penny.
Surprised there was no mention of this. The Performance is the flagship 92! Completely blows the rest out of the water!
Still considerably cheaper than the HK USP platform.
Excellent video! My first Beretta was the model 92FS Centurion. Absolutely love it!!! Where would that model fit into your time line?
I just sat through 2 of your Beretta M9/92 videos. You REALLY like this pistol. I personally rekindled my love for Beretta. Finally got myself a 92xi. Zero regrets. Love the single action, not one malfunction. Even with the new magazines. Any pistol I've owned, you'd get a malfunction from brand new mags. Nothing crazy, just a misfeed. Not the 92. Solid pistol. Size is an issue for concealed but doable. Amazing pistol.
Chris is in my opinion is the authority on the 92 series and his videos speak volumes on his depth of knowledge on these firearms.His videos are like listening to an old college professor
who conveys his enthusiasm for his subject.I love my Beretta 92 all five of them.
There was a third series of M1951 in the 1975/1976 timeframe. It brought back the lightweight alloy, and it was the same alloy as the 92 series.
My service M9 was a piece of crap but it was a testament to its durability that such a pistol could serve so many decades with such abuse and neglect and still function
My first pistol I bought for myself was a Beretta 96A1 and I still have it to this day. Now I have 2 other 92 series pistols and might get a 4th
Why was it a piece of crap?
Fantastic video Chris. I was also amazed by how clean that Norma (made in Switzerland) 9mm 124gr ammo shoots!
Incredibly Educational & A Absolutely Fabulous Presentation My Brother!
Many Thanks 🙏
as a Navy vet, I've shot several throusands of rounds through M9s and trusted my life to them for thousands of hours of watch. I've never understood the criticisms they receive; it's my favorite pistol to carry when weight isn't a big concern and shoot period. Thanks Chris.
Why do you think the US military ditched it for the M17?
@@markp4401 Chris did a video on that.
I really need a Beretta 92fs in my collection.
Always wanted to know:
-Why did they go with the abnormally thick, outside-the-rails slide? Was it to compensate for the exposed barrel or the locking block action?
-Why is the trigger...arm?...linkage?...exposed and on the outside of the frame? Seems like a weakness in design, exposing necessary components to the environment.
-Was there a reason the barrel protrudes past the slide, with no threads or compensator cuts on it?
The Taurus 907c (compact 92FS) was my first handgun, and it's probably the smoothes shooting one I own. The above features have always perplexed me.
If you are referring to the heavy slide of the Brigadier, that was designed for use with extreme +P+ ammunition used in high round count. This model was not commonly bought by LE or Military which is whom it was designed. But it was a cool option. The trigger arm of the Beretta is significantly stronger than that of many military pistols such as Sig. One of the parts on an Sig that will brake with extreme use is the trigger bar. I have broke a few when doing endurance testing of P226 and P229 pistols. As far as the barrel protruding the slide, well all I can say is in the armorer school I went to, a student asked the instructor that very same question . His response “Ita looka niceah!” 🤌🏻
@@SmallArmsSolutions The slide question was more regarding why the slide is wider than the dust cover section under it. It's like it has a set of car bumpers on it, but on the left/right side instead of the front/back. I assume they had to make it more sturdy, due to the sun roof they decided to give it to allow the barrel to be exposed.
......it do be looking good though. 🤓 Very distinct, I can't think of many other handguns with a proud crown on the barrel.
Also, thanks for the replies. 🍻
The shape is the locking recess where the locking block engages the slide to lock the breech during firing. If you look on top of the pistol with s closed slide, then pull rearward you will see the locking block disengage the grooves in the slide allowing the slide to mode rearward.
My 92x RDO G Centurion has that same trigger system it seems. Much lighter pull and very short reset. My first Beretta was the all stainless like you show. Still have it. The 92A1 has some differences from the others and I can't recall exactly but it seems it has a beefier slide and with the captured recoil spring the hole in the slide is larger, if I remember right. Also not mentioned here is the model 90-TWO which is much like the 92A1 except for slide shape and grip module.
Great video and info as always. Do a special video on the 93R!
Beretta 92FS vs Glock 17? Which would you choose?
This recoil spring system will allow you to easily switch between subsonic & supersonic ammunition: DPM Beretta 92X Performance & Old Version 92/92FS
I just inherited my father-in-law‘s 92F. He was 93 years old. Purchased it brand new and It was never fired. After disassembling it to inspect it. It only appears to have what the factory testing put through it with very little wear on anything inside the weapon. One thing I can’t find anything on is the serial number range for the 92F. What were the serial numbers in the first phase of government testing? What were the serial numbers in the second phase of government testing? Why is it every Beretta I own the Beretta corporation has no record of the serial number? I’m gonna hit you up with an email with pictures.
I had a 92 fs with a dot front sight and a white bar rear sight. It was great but I've never seen another one. All the other ones have had the 3dot system.
I have one too white front and rear dot not a bar though, that I bought brand new in jan 1991 also had to ask around because all the others on you tube have 3 dots, almost like a m9-92fs mixture when they made the first civilian 92fs?, slide is stamped 92 fs acck md think these are official lethal weapon Riggs ones? mine looks like the day I bought it and still only 500 rounds shot.
The 92 is definitely a lovable pistol.
I just snagged an M9A1/Model 92FS w/rail. I'll be getting an M9A4 as well, and they'll sit next to my APX, a gun that I feel is a worthy successor/companion to the M9. Beretta just makes good pistols.
“Replaced a couple years ago” was 5 years now, the M17/18 are doing just fine, y’all are just mad.
I have my Beretta Model 96 in .40 S&W with an extra 92 FS barrel. (Same mags, same recoil spring). I also have the .22 LR Conversion kit for it.(Different mags for the .22LR of course). 3-Calibers (.40 S&W, 9mm and .22 LR), one fun-gun. Always Flawless.
I also wish to mention how easy this pistol is to rack. Very accurate also.
Great information!! I was just gifted my Uncle's Highway Patrol duty 92F. What a beautiful gun it is and such a treasure, given its history. Thanks so much for the history lesson.
Don’t own a beretta yet, would you choose the classic M9 or the 92A1 with all the enhancement updates? Take care!
Very nice black Brigadier model you have there! Hold onto it! Those are very hard to come by these days! But the Brigadier is still made in Inox. Wish I could have gotten a black Brigadier for my Resident Evil Samurai Edge Beretta build.
Not a fan of the M9, however the Army should have either stuck with Beretta or gone with Glock.
Yeah why’d they ditch the Beretta. Some say modularity. That’s BS. Beretta came up with a modular upgrade.
@@markp4401 Agreed. The logistics was already there too; tweaking to accommodate Beretta's submission gun wouldn't have been a big leap. Also, why does the US Army need a compact gun? By far and large the average infantry or any other combat arms aren't concealing and women have used the M4/M16 for decades. You don't seem them get a rifle made for them; they work around the weapon system. It's big Army wasting money again.
@@resolute123 Good point. It’s not like the Army is into concealed carry.
I got my 92 Centurian in 86...never jams...accurate..imo..the best 2 Double action semi autos every made..HK and beretta
Thank you for doing this. My only jeers is towards Crimson Trace and their refusal to restart and make Beretta Vertec laser grips for people with the M9a3 and m9a4 as the M9 grips they make for the 92FS doesn't fit the m9a3 and m9a4 or current vertec framed series. Maybe you can put some weight and bug them on making the vertec laser grips again. Again, thanks for doing this video.
I’d be very curious to see your opinion of A Girsan Regard???? Admittedly I have no intention of buying one I dislike the thought of giving money to people who want me dead, I just be curious to see where you’d go with it.
If you're a Marine 03. At 20:42 point you may laugh a bit. Because what he said made me lmao.
My favorite channel. Thanks chris!
I just got the 92 x performance defense … it’s just a work of art
I won two police “Top Gun” competitions with my 92FS duty sidearm, back in the day. For me, it was the perfect balance and form that made it an extension of my arm. Sorry I sold it, I now carry the 96 stainless, the added recoil changes the balance from the 92 and for me, doesn’t quite have the innate accuracy I had with the 92FS.
Very informative, I learned some interesting history on the M-9. Great video!