Would you do a video addressing the massive increase in cartridge prices. Even our local budget stuff has gone up by 49%. I've had to cut down how often I shoot and so have many others. I don't know how a new shooter can justify affording to get into the sport if the costs keep on climbing like this.
Yep,, I was shocked last week when I bought 6 boxes of cheap stuff . I was using up the last of some 5 year old boxes that still the sticker price so I had new and old together. The new was 3x + increase from 2017, and this is the cheapest available. I will not pay the price required for “premium “. Maybe time to pull out the reloader , or pay someone to load up a case.
@@peterparsons7141 we shoot a lot of cheddite cartridges here. I was paying £200 per 1000 before lockdown. Now £272 Every other brand is the same story too. There literally isn't a cheap option anymore.
@@elemental4rce I’m going to talk to a couple local shops and maybe get a couple of shooters together to buy bulk amount. Also picking up any at estate sales, gun shows. I could be a diminishing market. Although I, old enough to remember early 80’s, box of good grade (not made of gold grade), but good stuff sold for around 4$cad a box 25. 1984?… In 2012 i was paying 6$cad for cheap high speed steel loads. (Good enough to hunt ducks with). Today cheapest..stuff is 25$,,and it’s cheap stuff.
The Monte was my 1st Benelli.. always a soft spot. My early 2000s version in 20ga is a pheasant slayer and at under 6lbs I can walk all day with it. I hope they make this in wood as well. Thank you for your channel from Minnesota.
What a good analysis. People who may not be aware of some of the Montefeltro’s details may dismiss the things you’ve mentioned as being trivial . I can support what you’re saying because I’ve shot these exclusively for 20+. My Benelli bit me the other day, and it reminded me it was one of the things I didn’t like. I also just had an issue loading quickly, under stress, and again it was something I don’t like but was willing to tolerate because everything else with the Montefeltro works for me.. except the safety. very cold here last week and because of the hunting situation I had the safety on and off a couple of dozen times in 1 hour,, big bother with gloves on. I like my Montefeltro’s and they were the best I could find for what I use them for, I would have had no reason to upgrade until I saw this new version. Benelli really have refined those little things I don’t like about the ones I’ve owned and shot (a lot) for 20+. The good thing is when I change to the new version I will have no problems finding new homes for my older versions, they shoot flawlessly and always have. Someone asked me the other day what I thought about the Montefeltro, I wished I had started with it instead of trying different makes and models shotguns. But then how would i know what I like and don’t. I am partial to the wood and Blue on the pre upgrade Montefeltro’s, however one butt stock has cracked (my bad), very hard use/abuse. Maybe synthetic stock could be tolerated to better stand up to use and abuse, IF the weight is same as previous wood version. I appreciate your video and assessment, you hit all the details. The details make the Montefeltro a nice shotgun.
Funny, but their 🇺🇸 site seems to only show the walnut version of the new Monte. Anyways, wherever you are, I'd guess walnut will be on the menu at some point soon.
Jonny you know me and my love of traditional things, but this gun just ticks off all my boxes for a modern gun. Now to see if I can find one to take for a test drive. Great video as always👍👍
Coming from a 500th anniversary Raffaello I love this! Not pinching the thumb will be a very welcome update but otherwise I couldn't see how it could be made better. Hoping the new M2 will have auto lifter option built in
Looks like a great update. I have (but rarely shoot) a Raffaello. It’s almost ‘too nice’ to be that grotty day gun, this would fill that gap nicely, being synthetic you’re never worried about getting it wet etc.
Thank you for describing the 2023 new changes and how they contribute to the shooting experience. Do you press the forearm forward or do you pull it back into shoulder? Tape a flashlight on the end of barrel and shine it on the ceiling where it meets the wall. Then compare your straight line when you pull the gun across the wall with the light trying to stay even with the corner going horizontal when you pressure the forearm rearward and forward. Tell me how the light reacts to the different pressure.
That a UK-based gun channel is even reviewing a new-model Benelli is a sign of the mission that Benelli played a large part in accomplishing. Namely, they made autoloaders acceptable, appealing, and even desirable on a worldwide basis including (gasp) in the (gasp again) UK.
The word classic can never be used in connection to Benelli. Beast, on the other had, is perhaps closer to reality. High recoil, high price, utilitarian, and increasingly ubiquitous is a more apt description in my opinion.
Really nice looking gun. I'm wondering if it would be ok to shorten the barrel to 20"? In AZ I can legally shorten a barrel down to 18" or above. I could pick one of these up brand new unshot for $850, but I want a shorter barrel if it wouldn't affect the gun negatively.
Weight is your friend in a clay gun, so probably the Maxus 2. However if competitive shooting isn’t the goal and fun is a priority- this gun is a great option
Looks like a VERY nice update! Versus the Turks, I'm not sure its practical value is 2x that of an Impala, but if you're willing to spend enough for a Retay, this Benelli looks very competitive. And the cool kids would hang out with you...
I know this is off topic. Been looking for a Caesar Guerini Invictus II ascent here in the states. I cannot find one anywhere. Would it be possible to purchase one from Italy or England and have it shipped over? What would that entail? Paperwork? Taxes? Thank you for any help on this. Love the channel.
We ar making a film on export at the moment following a friend doing something similar. Should be live in a month or two when the process is complete. Should shed some light on how difficult the process is
@@tgsoutdoors just did it . Try contacting Holts in-house / out house broker, shipping agent for tales of woe . E.g.air courier fees £160 plus additional x£ because it is a firearm . Agent to clear firearmthru Canada Customs . Knowledgeable purchasers will think twice about buying from Holts for export !
A couple of years ago i literally walked in to buy an M2..... Had a look n handle of an affinity just to see n compair the two as i knew benelli made the affinity anyway, as much as i loved the benelli brand within 30 seconds i just couldn't justify the double the price of the benelli and bought the affinity..... Its been faultless 🤷🏻♂️,
@@robertandrews6555 Looking at both these models right now. I think I actually prefer the location of the action spring on the Franchi Affinity. I've heard people complain of springs getting rusty in the buttstock.
@@johnanon3081 yeah, also the franchi affinity had better balance because of the weight of the moving parts being forward, .... I was actually genuinely disappointed i wasn't buying the gun i went in for,..... But it was half the price, branding or not i just couldn't do it
So these must be named differently in the UK vs U.S. this looks exactly like the new M2 in the U.S. The monty only comes with walnut stocks and doesn’t have the ribs on the forend.
Benelli need to stop tempting me with Autos the new two peace shell latch / bolt releases they’ve been adding to there guns make loading a lot smoother having had a play with a M2 speed I can say the two peace shell latches make them butter smooth to load I’d love to have a play with a new montefeltro and compare it to me raffeallo
Sadly, we left handers will not be able to enjoy the new Montefeltro or the M2, as Benelli has dropped the left handed versions. At least in the USA. I won't be letting go of my LH, 20 bore M2 anytime soon.
Why am I not surprised that you and only you could just drop in a Star Trek reference in and keep going without stopping for a breath. Or it's comedic value.....😢
I owned one in 28ga for 3months. Nothing but a continuous slew of issues with cycling and feeding. It was so bad i sold it off and have better luck with an over/under. I can get more shots off(2) without issue than the ethos cordoba best which might rum 3 rounds, or maybe one. Or many times, none. I realize rolls royce makes a lemon here and there but i know three other guys in my subgage waterfowl group that had the exact same experience with thiers. I wanted to love itn but for 2100dollars us, it was dissapointing to say the least.
@@MattsArchive like i said, i know thier other options are extremely dependable but that ethos cordoba in 28ga ive seen failure more than succes from multiple owners. Not sure if the cartridge just doesnt produce enough energy to reliable eject and cycle as im sure it is proportionate to the spring strength but its just not well matched between spring and cartridge energy in the 28 ga. Ive ran thousands through the 12ga version without a hiccup but the 28 just let me down.
What an abomination! First gun I ever bought is a 26” barreled montefeltro 20 gauge. almost ended up with a Remington 1100 20 gauge but the shop guy went in back and found it! If I knew then what I know now they also had a benelli m121 tactical on the wall that was to die for. I don’t know how many rounds I’ve put through that gun but it’s deadly on pheasants and clay pigeons. Johnny has described them as light and whippy but I find it fast and responsive but I am sort of a spaz.
Where's the Wood? Life is to short to shoot with an ugly gun and plastic is ugly and impersonal. I did just look and there is a model with what looks like a Walnut stock. However that figuring in the pictures is apparently just a paint job so any work such as an adjustable comb will produce a pretty funky appearance after it's been re-finished in the area where the work was done. In addition I have yet to see any paint job that plays with the light like genuine well figured Walnut. Good news is that once broken in it will cycle with 24 and 28 gram loads.
bought a 28 gauge ethos and hate it. The recoil operation is crappy , no accessories over here in USA (you can wait 1 year for a pad) their Customer Service the worse ever. Buy Beretta if you need an auto ... so much better
Would you do a video addressing the massive increase in cartridge prices. Even our local budget stuff has gone up by 49%. I've had to cut down how often I shoot and so have many others. I don't know how a new shooter can justify affording to get into the sport if the costs keep on climbing like this.
Yep,, I was shocked last week when I bought 6 boxes of cheap stuff . I was using up the last of some 5 year old boxes that still the sticker price so I had new and old together. The new was 3x + increase from 2017, and this is the cheapest available.
I will not pay the price required for “premium “. Maybe time to pull out the reloader , or pay someone to load up a case.
@@peterparsons7141 we shoot a lot of cheddite cartridges here. I was paying £200 per 1000 before lockdown. Now £272
Every other brand is the same story too. There literally isn't a cheap option anymore.
I'm not sure if it's considered a side benefit of the Eastern campaign, or one of the main ones.
Corporate greed run amok.
@@elemental4rce I’m going to talk to a couple local shops and maybe get a couple of shooters together to buy bulk amount.
Also picking up any at estate sales, gun shows.
I could be a diminishing market. Although I, old enough to remember early 80’s, box of good grade (not made of gold grade), but good stuff sold for around 4$cad a box 25. 1984?… In 2012 i was paying 6$cad for cheap high speed steel loads. (Good enough to hunt ducks with).
Today cheapest..stuff is 25$,,and it’s cheap stuff.
The Monte was my 1st Benelli.. always a soft spot. My early 2000s version in 20ga is a pheasant slayer and at under 6lbs I can walk all day with it. I hope they make this in wood as well. Thank you for your channel from Minnesota.
Walnut is shown on the 🇺🇸 site.
@@funkla65 there’s a AA grade silver, price is good.
What a good analysis. People who may not be aware of some of the Montefeltro’s details may dismiss the things you’ve mentioned as being trivial . I can support what you’re saying because I’ve shot these exclusively for 20+. My Benelli bit me the other day, and it reminded me it was one of the things I didn’t like. I also just had an issue loading quickly, under stress, and again it was something I don’t like but was willing to tolerate because everything else with the Montefeltro works for me.. except the safety. very cold here last week and because of the hunting situation I had the safety on and off a couple of dozen times in 1 hour,, big bother with gloves on. I like my Montefeltro’s and they were the best I could find for what I use them for, I would have had no reason to upgrade until I saw this new version. Benelli really have refined those little things I don’t like about the ones I’ve owned and shot (a lot) for 20+. The good thing is when I change to the new version I will have no problems finding new homes for my older versions, they shoot flawlessly and always have. Someone asked me the other day what I thought about the Montefeltro, I wished I had started with it instead of trying different makes and models shotguns. But then how would i know what I like and don’t.
I am partial to the wood and Blue on the pre upgrade Montefeltro’s, however one butt stock has cracked (my bad), very hard use/abuse. Maybe synthetic stock could be tolerated to better stand up to use and abuse, IF the weight is same as previous wood version.
I appreciate your video and assessment, you hit all the details. The details make the Montefeltro a nice shotgun.
Funny, but their 🇺🇸 site seems to only show the walnut version of the new Monte. Anyways, wherever you are, I'd guess walnut will be on the menu at some point soon.
For a marsh gun, i have and never will have a place for wood stocks.
Jonny you know me and my love of traditional things, but this gun just ticks off all my boxes for a modern gun. Now to see if I can find one to take for a test drive. Great video as always👍👍
A brilliant gun and video as usual. Really cant get enough. Keep it up Johnny and Sash. 👍👍🍻
Hi Johnny, Benelli great! Hope they upgrade all their models!! See you on the next one Malc and Ann Lincs xx
Coming from a 500th anniversary Raffaello I love this! Not pinching the thumb will be a very welcome update but otherwise I couldn't see how it could be made better.
Hoping the new M2 will have auto lifter option built in
We saw and handled this at the Shooting Show, was very impressed with it 🤩🤩🤩 This felt a lot like my Raffaello 🤩
Looks like a great update. I have (but rarely shoot) a Raffaello. It’s almost ‘too nice’ to be that grotty day gun, this would fill that gap nicely, being synthetic you’re never worried about getting it wet etc.
Thank you for describing the 2023 new changes and how they contribute to the shooting experience. Do you press the forearm forward or do you pull it back into shoulder? Tape a flashlight on the end of barrel and shine it on the ceiling where it meets the wall. Then compare your straight line when you pull the gun across the wall with the light trying to stay even with the corner going horizontal when you pressure the forearm rearward and forward. Tell me how the light reacts to the different pressure.
Love the idea of thumbing it in, in the dark. Lovely design…..
any additional help to thumb it in in the dark is a great advantage
That a UK-based gun channel is even reviewing a new-model Benelli is a sign of the mission that Benelli played a large part in accomplishing. Namely, they made autoloaders acceptable, appealing, and even desirable on a worldwide basis including (gasp) in the (gasp again) UK.
That's a bloody nice looking gun. Great vid again guys. Thank you!
Great video Jonny. Love the new Benelli. Looks like a great new shotgun. I have always been a Benelli fan, but this looks like a winner.
Another top class gun review. Keep em coming.
love your reviews , nice shot gun too , very nice
Hello TGS, John that is a awesome looking gun.
The word classic can never be used in connection to Benelli. Beast, on the other had, is perhaps closer to reality. High recoil, high price, utilitarian, and increasingly ubiquitous is a more apt description in my opinion.
Not info on the barrel !! Forcing cone ? Step Rib ?
Excellent review 👏
Great review as always. Nice looking shotgun.
Another good video Johny, what length of pull is it. Benelli's have always been too small for most people,
This one looks like a treat!
Really nice looking gun. I'm wondering if it would be ok to shorten the barrel to 20"? In AZ I can legally shorten a barrel down to 18" or above. I could pick one of these up brand new unshot for $850, but I want a shorter barrel if it wouldn't affect the gun negatively.
I love the synthetic stock but sadly Benelli does not ship them to the USA only the wood models
It may be the replacement to my well worn M2.
I’m a Beretta guy but damn this looks good.
Would love to c the new m2 vs the old as I'm a keeper and I use my m2 everyday
You are correct, the price of shells Are outrageous. Why in the hell are they gone up so much could it be there all in cahoots?
Great in depth video Johnny as usual,, could I use this on a shotgun license, thanks. Bill
Klingon,s forehead…… 😂😂
When will a version of this test be available with Italian subtitles for friends to see?
Great videos John, for a beginner to clay shooting what gun would you recommend? I was thinking of a Montefeltro or Browning Maxus 2 thanks
Weight is your friend in a clay gun, so probably the Maxus 2. However if competitive shooting isn’t the goal and fun is a priority- this gun is a great option
@@tgsoutdoors thanks John
Looks like a VERY nice update!
Versus the Turks, I'm not sure its practical value is 2x that of an Impala, but if you're willing to spend enough for a Retay, this Benelli looks very competitive. And the cool kids would hang out with you...
Benelli is an Italian company. Not Turk.
@@LetMeEducateYou-vj6un I plainly stated "versus the Turks", not "versus other Turks".
Why do they not try and sort out the short lop???
Did you really look down the barrel with the bolt closed /
Damn ..i just bought the previous one
I would like a vid on shotgun combs being to high. Nothing really out there to offer advise
Bore barrel 18,4 ?
What is the barrel length of the Montefeltro you tried?
28”
@@tgsoutdoors thanks
What's the recoil like on these?
Similar to other Benelli
How do you get one ? GMK have no knowledge of this gun ! What's the UK price ?
We may get new Benellis quicker than you but you get Brownings we never see (B525GL)😝
I know this is off topic. Been looking for a Caesar Guerini Invictus II ascent here in the states. I cannot find one anywhere. Would it be possible to purchase one from Italy or England and have it shipped over? What would that entail? Paperwork? Taxes? Thank you for any help on this. Love the channel.
We ar making a film on export at the moment following a friend doing something similar. Should be live in a month or two when the process is complete. Should shed some light on how difficult the process is
@@tgsoutdoors that’s great looking forward to seeing that.
@@tgsoutdoors just did it . Try contacting Holts in-house / out house broker, shipping agent for tales of woe . E.g.air courier fees £160 plus additional x£ because it is a firearm . Agent to clear firearmthru Canada Customs . Knowledgeable purchasers will think twice about buying from Holts for export !
Perfect👌12 cal. What kg..???
That is the M2 in the states
Are they not different guns?
I'm sure the Franchi Affinity has hurt sales of the Montefeltro and other Benelli models.
A couple of years ago i literally walked in to buy an M2..... Had a look n handle of an affinity just to see n compair the two as i knew benelli made the affinity anyway, as much as i loved the benelli brand within 30 seconds i just couldn't justify the double the price of the benelli and bought the affinity..... Its been faultless 🤷🏻♂️,
@@robertandrews6555 I bought mine in 2017 and put a few thousand rounds through it without issue.
@@robertandrews6555 Looking at both these models right now. I think I actually prefer the location of the action spring on the Franchi Affinity. I've heard people complain of springs getting rusty in the buttstock.
@@johnanon3081 yeah, also the franchi affinity had better balance because of the weight of the moving parts being forward, .... I was actually genuinely disappointed i wasn't buying the gun i went in for,..... But it was half the price, branding or not i just couldn't do it
@@robertandrews6555 Do you recommend the Affinity? Any hiccups or reliability issues?
So these must be named differently in the UK vs U.S. this looks exactly like the new M2 in the U.S. The monty only comes with walnut stocks and doesn’t have the ribs on the forend.
We are having a New M2 that will vary differently from the US spec version but this and the American M2 are different guns
Benelli need to stop tempting me with Autos the new two peace shell latch / bolt releases they’ve been adding to there guns make loading a lot smoother having had a play with a M2 speed I can say the two peace shell latches make them butter smooth to load I’d love to have a play with a new montefeltro and compare it to me raffeallo
If the Benelli is indeed the "greatest" why can't it be set to neutral cast?
Sadly, we left handers will not be able to enjoy the new Montefeltro or the M2, as Benelli has dropped the left handed versions. At least in the USA. I won't be letting go of my LH, 20 bore M2 anytime soon.
when did rhys montrose become a gun lover
Had one 4 Years...This will tempt me...mmmmm...
Probably don't want to look down the barrel from the muzzle with the bolt closed.........
Why am I not surprised that you and only you could just drop in a Star Trek reference in and keep going without stopping for a breath. Or it's comedic value.....😢
Would love your take on the ethos cordoba best.
I owned one in 28ga for 3months. Nothing but a continuous slew of issues with cycling and feeding. It was so bad i sold it off and have better luck with an over/under. I can get more shots off(2) without issue than the ethos cordoba best which might rum 3 rounds, or maybe one. Or many times, none. I realize rolls royce makes a lemon here and there but i know three other guys in my subgage waterfowl group that had the exact same experience with thiers. I wanted to love itn but for 2100dollars us, it was dissapointing to say the least.
@@eduffy4937 damn. Sorry to hear that but glad to hear it now vs later. Will look at other options. Thank you!
@@MattsArchive like i said, i know thier other options are extremely dependable but that ethos cordoba in 28ga ive seen failure more than succes from multiple owners. Not sure if the cartridge just doesnt produce enough energy to reliable eject and cycle as im sure it is proportionate to the spring strength but its just not well matched between spring and cartridge energy in the 28 ga. Ive ran thousands through the 12ga version without a hiccup but the 28 just let me down.
Arabic translation
What an abomination! First gun I ever bought is a 26” barreled montefeltro 20 gauge. almost ended up with a Remington 1100 20 gauge but the shop guy went in back and found it! If I knew then what I know now they also had a benelli m121 tactical on the wall that was to die for. I don’t know how many rounds I’ve put through that gun but it’s deadly on pheasants and clay pigeons. Johnny has described them as light and whippy but I find it fast and responsive but I am sort of a spaz.
Türkçe çevirim ekleyin lütfen
Baikal bit my finger!
That's a great gun but in no way better than a Beretta. Even the A300 Ultima is better, let alone the A400
I'd rather have a pump in the field.
Oh if weren't limited to 3 rounds.
Should be 4+1. Just comes with a removable magazine plug so it’s legal for most bird hunting.
@@lukegaines3276 Yep. It's just one of things that annoys me. It annoys most I know.
Where's the Wood? Life is to short to shoot with an ugly gun and plastic is ugly and impersonal. I did just look and there is a model with what looks like a Walnut stock. However that figuring in the pictures is apparently just a paint job so any work such as an adjustable comb will produce a pretty funky appearance after it's been re-finished in the area where the work was done. In addition I have yet to see any paint job that plays with the light like genuine well figured Walnut. Good news is that once broken in it will cycle with 24 and 28 gram loads.
Benelli.... the best?..... cmon. All their guns are exactly the same, just different aesthetics.
It it ain’t broke
A poorly made excuse for a shotgun, with a stock fit to esthetic rather than ergonomics.
bought a 28 gauge ethos and hate it. The recoil operation is crappy , no accessories over here in USA (you can wait 1 year for a pad) their Customer Service the worse ever. Buy Beretta if you need an auto ... so much better
Agreed
That is the M2 in the states