Should you ditch your points ignition?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Should you ditch your points? It's up to you, but electronic ignition has a few advantages. Have your own stories about points or electronic ignitions? Share in the comments.
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Great video, great explanation. My concern is today most if not all electronic ignitions are made in China. Being in the classic car scene, most here in Malaysia still use the points system as they've heard horror stories of electronics failing in the middle of nowhere and has happened too many times compared to those with points. If the points shut for whatever reason, you only have to open them up and you're ready to go. If the electronic shuts, you'll be calling the tow truck. So best bet is always carry a spare electronic module like what we do here if you really need to go electronic Ignition.
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great discription but its an electronic distributor not electronic ignition conversion kit, people may get confused. Loving your videos. Can you run the black wire to earth in the distributor so you only have one wire coming out of the distributor so it looks stock??
It's distributing a charge that will cause spark that will ignite. People will get confused because people are stupid.
And don't forget to check wether you have a balasted or non balasted Ignition system and adapt your Wiring acordingly. Cheers
Balasted ignition system? Does it have like a capacitor somewhere?
Could you do an instal video on this?
An honest look at electronic ignitions. They do not in fact enable an engine to make more power or get better gas mileage. Their downside is that when they fail, they tend to fail abruptly and completely. Point ignitions can usually get you home if you fiddle with them.
Come to think of it, electronic fuel injection has much the same up- and downside as its ignition counterparts.
Couldn't agree more. As a general rule of thumb, we like keep a spare set of standard points in the car as a backup for this reason.
I agree and I still use a DuraSpark ballast system over aftermarket electronic ignition. People have done it and rev counters don't work, there's splicing involved on the Cologne. Genuine Bosch 2.8 distributor has 3 wires coming off plug (rocking horse sh**) aftermarket has 2 wires
Is it worth to buy 123 Ignition or 59D with electronic Module is fine for a little prepared mini ? Thanks guys
No more burnt points leaving you at make out point
Excellent video, short & sweet with excellent verbal and visual explanations. I’m sold, thank you:))
Glad to help!
Every points ignition I've had I've replaced with electronic....be it in a mini, early mustang or my early falcon wagon. One of the best bang for buck reliability modifications anyone can do.
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My solid state system just died. Took ages to check it. At least with points you can see what is wrong
I have points in my 71 rt charger, change them once a year, no problems.
A magneto is my preferred.
Hey I love your videos and they really help me with my mini.
If ever you get the chance, doing a video on carb identification and maybe tuning would be great!
Keep up the good work!
Yes. I just saved you a walk.
Great video! I however have a query if swapping to electronica would cause my RPM meter to report 0RPM all time?
This is a no brainer. Why ?
Alot of classic owners want to get in their car and drive.
A lot of classic car owners are not mechanically inclined , no matter how nice their garage and tool box are!
Electronic ignitions verses points..is the points can work loose and or just corrode and lose their effeciency to create a SPARK.
Another factor is they make a physical contact from the points to the spinning distributor shaft , which over time makes the point gap inconsistent , causing the fuel air carb mixture to not burn completely , or at all....a lose of power over the power band , hard starting or even flooding out the car ....
Not fear porn, just a fact of parts wearing out in normal use.
Changing over DOES NOT. hurt the value of your classic ,as it can easily. be returned to troublesome points at anytime.
Electronic componenets replacing points in Distributors and fuel pumps ,is a bullet proof up grade with modern electronic components.
THIS IS WHY " YOU THINK" YOUR EVERYDAY CAR IS MORE RELIABLE THAN YOUR FUN CLASSIC...it uses these components already !
Funny you release this vid today, I just had to swap an electronic dizzy into my mini as the points dizzy died
say hello to "set and forget" no need to worry about your dizzy's bushes being worn and effecting running either!
@@bloodreighn I just finished road tuning the timing and setting the carbs up. Last time I set timing I used the access panel and my god never again-cant see shit through that little hole!!!! She is running mint and feels much more responsive than it used to :D
Does this stealth kit fit a Ford Capri 3.0 Ghia Automatic 1978 ?
please help my problems
my SPI mini's problem are:
1st. sometimes it jerked forward when decelerate at any gear or any speed.
2nd. engine nearly stalls when shift down gears or step down clutch
Points are okay, electronics just take away the necessary maintenance needed for points but with electronics if not setup, right and safely is disastrous
I’d recommend one of these on any classic. Timing needs to be adjusted the garage told me when they fitted it. I’ve heard Acuspark might not be the best quality and I may be having issues with mine but also could be anything else with these old cars 😢
A hotter coil wouldn't give you more spark?
Question About the distributor,
Is it possible that the cam in it isnt straight anymore?
Cilinder 1 is misfiring everytime, when i take the cap off, the contact point is a bit damaged, so my guess is that the rotor hits the cap and is the problem of misfiring.
Greetings from The Netherlands, your video’s are vers helpfull and entertaining !
Is there any way of making my 1991mini run without chocke?
Mine never did work and it was installed correct with correct coil and wires to proper terminals
Install video next!! Also can you hook up a vacuum gage. Suck a vacuum and record it on the vid. Mine looks like it has little advance. Would like to see it for comparison. I have a 1980 998. Not sure which distributes I have yet.
I purchased one kit, do you need to change the coil also? What is the difference between ballast and non-ballast coils?
I'm going to fit a version of this to my classoc Land Rover.
Can you do a video about 'how to check & solve wiper shampoo line ' please .. (Rover mini 1998-auto)
EMP STRIKE > electronic
How do you set it up after installing it? It must have a first setting right?
Just a set base timing the standard way
@@Stevestonmotorco ooohhhh... But that must mean you get it right with the mechanical components first. Correct? Otherwise you have rubbish ignition timing and you've just set it in stone with the electronic conversion 😂
The rotor and pick up sensor can only be installed in one fixed position. From that point it's a matter of rotating the distributor to set the desired timing
@@Stevestonmotorco yes. That'll work 👍🏼👌🏼
Are they any good for kombis vw
I have a 1953 V8 will it work on there
Do you need to reset the timing once you change over ...
Does it mount in a suzuki maruti yr95?
I have a 1969 Buick Skylark 350 motor points setup. Can I replace my points with this?
Nice video btw
Thank you so much. I'm gonna try on a 95 Prelude
I'm running an MSD #9950 Ignition Kit in my Mini. Runs like a dream.
Im in my third electronic ignition and I am thinking about going back to points. The money I've spent does not make up for the ease of maintenance.
Are you having failures with the electronic module? If you are then you have the wrong coil. The coil must have a 3 ohm resistance across the primary winding. If you are running a modern coil which only has 1.5 ohm resistance it draws too much current and it will damage the module. A 1.5 ohm coil will also burn your points out in double quick time. If your components are correctly matched the module is trouble free and requires no maintenance which is much better than points.
You run it without a resistor huh…dont blame the product for incorrect use😅
hei...can dat work on my 1982 corolla which uses a 2T engine????um reli getting tired of replacing points time to time
Yes it can, don't use existing ballast set up ,get the right 3 omn coil.
What ignition coil do you prefer? Is there something specific to look for? TIA
The Pertronix coils are great.
thanks a lot for this assume the rotor arm doesn't need to be replaced as its no longer doing anything, also are there any reasons you wouldn't do this? Thanks
The rotor is still delivering the spark so it's important for it to be in good condition. The only downside to electronic ignition is that if it breaks, it won't work at all. That being said, points are in the same boat for the most part and the electronic ignition units are pretty resilient.
Hi guys, your videos are perfect, keep it up. Can you make a video tutorial on how to replace the classic headlights by your owns please with full connections please.
Thanks Fabien. We already made one, check it out
Duuuude, pls help me!
My mini sprite 1000cc when in idle the rev starts to get unstable floating crazy up down, but the engine doesn’t stalls.
And only start to happens after driving around 20 min.
When this happens I release the advanced timing vacuum line and it’s runs idle normally with a bit revs pitching up.
When I put the vacuum line back then the revs lowers down and begins unstable again.
Any clue!
Hi Diego, you might want to post about this issue on the forums. I'd start with checking for vacuum leaks and proper vacuum advance function.
Stevestonmotorco thanks guys! I’ll post there as well...
Yo whats up. If possible, can you please tell me how to identify a mini's year model, if possible, using the VIN or characteristics around the mini. Good Show guys. Peace out (ZA)
that can be a LONG video, though this is a good guide www.minimania.com/Mini_Identification_1803
Lazy ! Yo!! Yes you are 1 single search pulled up loads of answers.
I hope you leave your parents house ,a little more prepared then you are currently.
Out on your own in the big World you will not be spoon fed.
Here open wide...www.love-mini.co.uk/vin-numbers/classic
do you need resistive plugs with this kit?
Yes, we recommend NGK BPR6ES plugs when using any electronic ignition system.
This might be a silly question, besides reliability are there any power gains by switching to electronic ignition?
Not necessarily. But you would probably see a power increase if your points were worn out, or if you bought a special unit that has multi-spark or programmable ignition curve features.
You will see easier starting and running which translates into "seat of the pants power and confidents in reliability"
Reliability is the confidence builder a classic car owner loves to have when going to a car gathering.....no to truck involved!!!
Do you recommend adding extra engine steadies for a 1380 supercharged engine?
Definitely!
I think your just "bragging" you dont build such a motor without knowing increased stresses more power provides. So good for you !
But really....come on ?
@@MindDezign Its the first Mini I have ever put together and I didn't build the engine, I figured it was likely a good idea but thought I would get some input from those more knowledgeable than I.
@@mephiskapheles6 research and with the internet there is far more than libraries full of info. Congratulations building your first MINI.
Common sense goes a long way when building cars. More power,
means more stress on components all the way to the ground. No link in the chain should be overlooked...as that is where any weakness will expose itself. Good luck on your journey.
@@MindDezign thnkx kindly
Thank you..
;)
Points are garbage. Period. Electric ignition all the way.
short answer, Yes, Always, Just dont buy shitty ebay ones, power spark were rubbish on my mini, accuspark was great, No issues in the rain anymore, and much better starting too
Agree on avoiding the cheap ones. If it fails, you're on the side of the road. Same thing with points, of course, but buying a reliable ignition unit that actually underwent quality control is a good idea.