the best troll map ive ever seen in doom was this map, exactly the same but the exit was blocked off and they called it "the dead end" its such a stupid pun and i love it
This is Romero's best work for Doom II. Perhaps the only level of his that mixes perfectly the Doom 1 maze nature of levels, with the focus on verticality of D2. Love how the action is a literal crescendo that culminates in a Cyberdemon battle on top of the "mountain". To bad you can just skip it, instead of actually kill the C.D like Against Thee Wickedly. Between Monster Condo, Spirit World and The Living End, what a great way of end the game before the final boss.
@@januszkomin3490 yeah, they could have placed a real final boss on the mountain, and you'd be forced to retreat to the initial areas, the entire level would become a boss fight arena.
Definitely feels like when they got to this point, their mastery of the Doom engine was really starting to show. Big open area, the flow of showing you where you're going to end up (but you're gonna have a heck of a fight to get there), and the way you work your way through the level... *chefs kiss* Much better than some of the more simple "maze-like" levels, this has a great sense of "place", something Romero did particularly well (not to dismiss the others, Sandy's prolific work included, but Romero definitely has a touch with his Doom levels).
It's well done. In UV, I hate the first room on that path. If you wasted ammo while shooting in the distance at the start, you're done there. They should have made it impossible to shotgun the cyberdemon over the edge with no risk, though. 😄
The Penultimate map is another banger. Shawn's Got a Shotgun is a great song and with tons of enemies, one of the more twisted designs that makes you feel like your ascending a mountain, and a climactic Cyberdemon fight, this is one of the most iconic.
One take is really impressive on this. Romero killed it with the angles, hitscanners, and overall balance on this one. It's incredibly well crafted without feeling cheap. The chaingunngers guarding the plasma are a particularly nasty trap. The waiting for lifts and such were well done to make you feel confined, but not without options to fight back. It's a beautiful thing. Honestly, I could see this being the basis for TNT Evilution turning into hitscan hell. They took all the nasty trap ideas Romero used with restraint and made them into an entire megawad. Yuck.
I feel like Doom 2 like was id discovering its footing with the doom combat formula but with some hang-ups from Doom 1's mazy shooting gallery design, like they were still getting a feel for the new sandbox that the enemies and the new tool in the SSG added, kinda makes me wonder if they just did one more hoorah after this. Alas the community transcended them.
Man this is quite hardcore. I did a nightmare playthrough of doom II on youtube years ago and I remember this level very clearly, because I found it to be the most difficult by far, especially the end. Rewatching my own video and comparing it to yours I found it not worth it/impossible to get rid of the respawned hitscanners at the end so I found just rushing up the stairs and just tank all the hits was the way to go. Anyway, great series, it's fun to compare your strats to the ones I used (even though I had no constraints other than no saving). You also make it look so easy somehow . I don't really play anymore but would have loved to exchange ideas and strats. Great to see some love for nightmare :)
It's really impressive that you did it with only the weapons on the map. For me, the frustrating thing about this level is the random respawn timers. Nightmare is mostly about shooting and moving, but the entire level is designed to just make you wait. Wait for the teleport pause. Wait for the bridge to rise. Run back and forth in every room pressing one button after another. If the monsters had a reasonable forced internal cooldown on their respawn then it wouldn't be so frustrating. The majority of my deaths are a result of that baron of hell respawning on the pillar, or being swarmed with cacodemons -- props to how you sidestepped that one in the third bridge room -- or just having those god damn revenants in the final room chain respawn before you've even cleared the shotgunners off the bridges. It's a fantastically desiogned level, but it has just one thing too much going on when respawns can range from being nigh instantaneous to being 3+ minutes long.
He did it! Pumpkin Man did it! He beat Doom II Hell on Earth on nightmare. You made this map look easy, but its a real challenge to beat it pistol start. The icon of sin is such a joke I don't even count it towards completing Doom II on any difficulty. Congratulations Decino :D
hope your happy. because of these great videos i’ve played doom, sigil, doom 2, TNT and Plutina. All UV. in Plutina i had 1% health and stumbled into a secret and got a mega sphere. didn’t realize it until mowed some revenants and wondered how i survived
I wish I knew the plasma was down in that tunnel. That would have saved me from having to play this map about 15 times last week. I really don't remember a lot of these levels well anymore since it's been around 15 years since I had my last playthrough, but I sure like these maps over the Final Doom maps I'm playing now.
This is one of the maps I missed out on as a console player. A worthy penultimate level, and your Nightmare run made it look like a real blast to face!
@@lankymaccrazyhair264 the PS1 version of Doom had several levels cut. It was also missing the Arch Vile and Icon of Sin. But to make up for it, we got Doom II monsters in Ultimate Doom.
@@lankymaccrazyhair264 The last level of PSX Doom is Redemption Denied. It's a single room arena like E3M8 with a bunch of Barons in the middle, and when they die walls lower to reveal two Spider Masterminds in opposite corners.
I love love love listening to you decino. Your work. Game play and voice. Make me feel like I'm listing to a friend and keep me comfortable in times of stress. Even hot me on Xbox playing the expansions and such. .. I hope your day is well my future friend
This is probably my favorite DooM II level, this or Vivisection. It's just such a fun level with plenty of tense, close up fights but still a large area that helps feel the scope and gravity of the pen-ultimate level. And then the Cyber demon that shows up at the end just made it feel quite epic.
Absolutely astonishing that this was your first attempt - I based my own routing off of Peter's as well, so no surprise that yours felt familiar at first. The amount of times you can get scammed on that final triple-switch area and final staircase is unreal. And don't worry, not disappointed at the lack of outtakes, just surprised. Just goes to show the skill difference between Pumpkin Doomgod and the common folk, I suppose!
Tell me one thing pumpkin man. You know everything about all the dooms. You know every level and you can play it at an incredible skill level. You know the code, the mechanics, dodging all the shots like nothing. You are even better at multiplayer than JR himself. Tell me…. Are you an Icon of sin? Or maybe retired doom slayer, reliving his wild past? 😂❤ i love your style decino. For me, you are Uncle ducino for eternity. Edit: wuw u xoxo
i like a lot map 29, feels like you are at the center of everything before jumping inside the brain and that song feels so good. Also amazing first try, always moving foward with no hesitation and with the plus of no outtakes. Congrats!
How could we be disappointed, that was a mesmerizing run to watch! Felt like the Doom equivalent of a juggling act with how fast priorities shift and you constantly have to be on your toes. I'm not as big a fan of this map as most typical Doom fans, but I will say that it's one of those maps where, for some reason that I don't even know, it still grew on me a lot when doing it from a pistol start. Same with map 14. I guess some get better, some get worse when you do that.
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I knew it ! It took only one attempt to complete this map, just as expected ! Great job ! Perhaps when we expect great challenge that we can overcome and feel confident enough, we became more overally prepared, even at thinner, deeper layers that we don't notice usually... And a bit of luck of course ! And enough of sleep and vitamins and hydration of course ! Also funny caco in thumbnail feels *veeery* familiar, like I've seen him a lot of times already... Like a tiiiny subtlest gag/expression type of familiar...
Fuggin nailed it! And the ending staircase... At times it looked like you were just a pixel away from falling off the cliff. And that Caco trying to block the path was a nice little surprise 🍅💀
This map looks so good always liked the design of it and originally it kicked my butt a few times but nowadays I tend to fly through it though I always forget the plasma secret anyway icon of sin next so will see how quickly you get through that I deliberately didn't look at the video length but yeah with that as always cheers for upload decino
No outtakes huh? I kind of expected you to get a good route here for some reason. Plasma and chaingun are nightmare's worst enemy or better say player's best friend and it's really nice to know this, if I want to try nightmare sometime. Map 30 isn't much different than on UV, I bet.
When I was a kid Cacodemon's were my favourite demons, because they looked so cute. I mean they still are not gonna lie. But this was my favourite Doom map since there were so many of them. I thought that this was their home in hell haha!
I love this level because this first time in where a advance level don't exist keys, only switch buttons. and because the tension of that level shows that all hell will not let you visit Jhon Romero.
Awesome level. It builds and builds to the final showdown, thankfully that Cyberdemon can be ignored. When I first saw this map, my friends saw the CD and backed off and had to try and kill him from a distance not knowing he could be ran by to win.
It's an objectively brilliant level. There's so much going on, and it pulls off everything it tries really well. It sometimes feels mean-spirited, though. But I guess that's not out of place for Doom. And it's certainly not as sadistic as a lot of things that happen in Plutonia.
I like that this video was recommended to me in the TH-cam feed after I had watched the short clip of Zap Brannigan "That's for school girls. Here's a route with some chest hair". Chest hair indeed.
the best troll map ive ever seen in doom was this map, exactly the same but the exit was blocked off and they called it "the dead end" its such a stupid pun and i love it
Its a Romero map, thats to be expected.
"You're doomed"
"Speak of the devil"
How meta
This is Romero's best work for Doom II.
Perhaps the only level of his that mixes perfectly the Doom 1 maze nature of levels, with the focus on verticality of D2.
Love how the action is a literal crescendo that culminates in a Cyberdemon battle on top of the "mountain". To bad you can just skip it, instead of actually kill the C.D like Against Thee Wickedly.
Between Monster Condo, Spirit World and The Living End, what a great way of end the game before the final boss.
if only this was the final level instead of the Icon of Shit
@@januszkomin3490 yeah, they could have placed a real final boss on the mountain, and you'd be forced to retreat to the initial areas, the entire level would become a boss fight arena.
Definitely feels like when they got to this point, their mastery of the Doom engine was really starting to show. Big open area, the flow of showing you where you're going to end up (but you're gonna have a heck of a fight to get there), and the way you work your way through the level... *chefs kiss* Much better than some of the more simple "maze-like" levels, this has a great sense of "place", something Romero did particularly well (not to dismiss the others, Sandy's prolific work included, but Romero definitely has a touch with his Doom levels).
This map is so tough, well done! Nearly done with Doom II now!!
this map literally stepped up the game even more. also this song just slaps
It's amazing how well the map pushes you to constantly move forward and stay on your toes, it's basically a Nightmare map in all but name
It's well done. In UV, I hate the first room on that path. If you wasted ammo while shooting in the distance at the start, you're done there. They should have made it impossible to shotgun the cyberdemon over the edge with no risk, though. 😄
I like your pfp
The Penultimate map is another banger. Shawn's Got a Shotgun is a great song and with tons of enemies, one of the more twisted designs that makes you feel like your ascending a mountain, and a climactic Cyberdemon fight, this is one of the most iconic.
So satisfying to watch Decino in proper form! Swift and accurate moves, beautiful!
Really well done on this one; no outtakes! But man, we're near the end already. Looking forward to Map 30; hope RNJesus is kind to you on that day! 😁
Those instructions he gives while going through the levels make it feel like a cooking tv show.
One take is really impressive on this. Romero killed it with the angles, hitscanners, and overall balance on this one. It's incredibly well crafted without feeling cheap. The chaingunngers guarding the plasma are a particularly nasty trap. The waiting for lifts and such were well done to make you feel confined, but not without options to fight back. It's a beautiful thing.
Honestly, I could see this being the basis for TNT Evilution turning into hitscan hell. They took all the nasty trap ideas Romero used with restraint and made them into an entire megawad. Yuck.
Doom 2's always felt like a mixed bag to me, but this map stands out as one of the best. What a way to (almost) end a game.
I feel like Doom 2 like was id discovering its footing with the doom combat formula but with some hang-ups from Doom 1's mazy shooting gallery design, like they were still getting a feel for the new sandbox that the enemies and the new tool in the SSG added, kinda makes me wonder if they just did one more hoorah after this. Alas the community transcended them.
Man this is quite hardcore. I did a nightmare playthrough of doom II on youtube years ago and I remember this level very clearly, because I found it to be the most difficult by far, especially the end. Rewatching my own video and comparing it to yours I found it not worth it/impossible to get rid of the respawned hitscanners at the end so I found just rushing up the stairs and just tank all the hits was the way to go. Anyway, great series, it's fun to compare your strats to the ones I used (even though I had no constraints other than no saving). You also make it look so easy somehow . I don't really play anymore but would have loved to exchange ideas and strats. Great to see some love for nightmare :)
"Without the plasma you're doomed."
HA, get it, because the game is called Doom.
I'll see myself out.
I can not believe it's nearly finish of Doom 2 on Nightmare, that was quite a journey :D
What a chaos in this map, wow
It's really impressive that you did it with only the weapons on the map.
For me, the frustrating thing about this level is the random respawn timers. Nightmare is mostly about shooting and moving, but the entire level is designed to just make you wait. Wait for the teleport pause. Wait for the bridge to rise. Run back and forth in every room pressing one button after another. If the monsters had a reasonable forced internal cooldown on their respawn then it wouldn't be so frustrating. The majority of my deaths are a result of that baron of hell respawning on the pillar, or being swarmed with cacodemons -- props to how you sidestepped that one in the third bridge room -- or just having those god damn revenants in the final room chain respawn before you've even cleared the shotgunners off the bridges.
It's a fantastically desiogned level, but it has just one thing too much going on when respawns can range from being nigh instantaneous to being 3+ minutes long.
Now we expect 30 outtakes for map 30
probably my favourite doom2 map. no idea why, just lot's of memories.
He did it! Pumpkin Man did it! He beat Doom II Hell on Earth on nightmare. You made this map look easy, but its a real challenge to beat it pistol start. The icon of sin is such a joke I don't even count it towards completing Doom II on any difficulty. Congratulations Decino :D
And we are close to the end, excellent run as always.
I wonder if Hell Revealed is possible on Nightmare. It would be a nice throwback to the start of the channel.
hope your happy. because of these great videos i’ve played doom, sigil, doom 2, TNT and Plutina. All UV. in Plutina i had 1% health and stumbled into a secret and got a mega sphere. didn’t realize it until mowed some revenants and wondered how i survived
Massive kudos on finishing this first run. I figured this would have brought along a lot of outtakes.
"Focus on the revenants and the shotgunners." Or, translated: at anything that moves. Love the level, it's been so long since last I played it.
I wish I knew the plasma was down in that tunnel. That would have saved me from having to play this map about 15 times last week. I really don't remember a lot of these levels well anymore since it's been around 15 years since I had my last playthrough, but I sure like these maps over the Final Doom maps I'm playing now.
"Without the Plasma, you're DOOM'd." - Decino - 2023
Chaingun and Plasma gun are definitely the 2 MVPs of your Nightmare run.
Love this map, especially this music, my favorite out of all Doom maps. Great job Decino, one more to go!
This is one of the maps I missed out on as a console player. A worthy penultimate level, and your Nightmare run made it look like a real blast to face!
They removed this level from consol? That's messed up.
@@lankymaccrazyhair264 the PS1 version of Doom had several levels cut. It was also missing the Arch Vile and Icon of Sin.
But to make up for it, we got Doom II monsters in Ultimate Doom.
@@thestabbybrit4798 it's missing the final boss? Come on, a lame final boss is better than no final boss... What's the final level in ps1 doom?
@@lankymaccrazyhair264 The last level of PSX Doom is Redemption Denied. It's a single room arena like E3M8 with a bunch of Barons in the middle, and when they die walls lower to reveal two Spider Masterminds in opposite corners.
I can't believe I waited till the very end to become a member of your channel!
Awesome game play, a master at work!
Wow, good run! Those teleport ambushes are crazy!
Wow. I never would have expected zero outtakes, that's insane! Great job on oneshotting this difficult map.
0:39 ouch face!
I love love love listening to you decino. Your work. Game play and voice. Make me feel like I'm listing to a friend and keep me comfortable in times of stress. Even hot me on Xbox playing the expansions and such. ..
I hope your day is well my future friend
Damn, that was full on the whole way through! Nice work. Thanks!
I'm impressed how you keep making these maps look so easy :o
This is probably my favorite DooM II level, this or Vivisection. It's just such a fun level with plenty of tense, close up fights but still a large area that helps feel the scope and gravity of the pen-ultimate level. And then the Cyber demon that shows up at the end just made it feel quite epic.
Absolutely astonishing that this was your first attempt - I based my own routing off of Peter's as well, so no surprise that yours felt familiar at first. The amount of times you can get scammed on that final triple-switch area and final staircase is unreal. And don't worry, not disappointed at the lack of outtakes, just surprised. Just goes to show the skill difference between Pumpkin Doomgod and the common folk, I suppose!
Tell me one thing pumpkin man. You know everything about all the dooms. You know every level and you can play it at an incredible skill level. You know the code, the mechanics, dodging all the shots like nothing. You are even better at multiplayer than JR himself. Tell me…. Are you an Icon of sin? Or maybe retired doom slayer, reliving his wild past? 😂❤ i love your style decino. For me, you are Uncle ducino for eternity.
Edit: wuw u xoxo
It's so beautiful to watch you tackle each map on nightmare strategically, very well done mate 😁
Absolutely monster to slay in nightmare 🍿🔥 incredible work pumpkin man 🧡
Nicely done! This is one of my favorite maps from Doom 2, it just has an awesome midi and challenges you almost everywhere
Holy crap man 1st attempt ? Well done cos that looked like hard work so much to do so many caco's sheer hell
Can't wait for Nightmare Plutonia!
i like a lot map 29, feels like you are at the center of everything before jumping inside the brain and that song feels so good.
Also amazing first try, always moving foward with no hesitation and with the plus of no outtakes. Congrats!
your playthrough and strategies helped me FINALLY beat map 29 on nightmare!!!! thank you so much for this amazing run!!!!!!
I forgot how cool this map is. Very good job doing it in one go!
Terrific work, decino! It's totally impressive you managed to beat this map and didn't die once. Honestly, I was expecting some outtakes here
How could we be disappointed, that was a mesmerizing run to watch! Felt like the Doom equivalent of a juggling act with how fast priorities shift and you constantly have to be on your toes.
I'm not as big a fan of this map as most typical Doom fans, but I will say that it's one of those maps where, for some reason that I don't even know, it still grew on me a lot when doing it from a pistol start. Same with map 14. I guess some get better, some get worse when you do that.
The true last level of doom 2.
It feels like it all comes together here.
What a flawless run, my man! Just like when The Beatles recorded "Twist And Shout"... in 1 take! Outstanding work. 😊👌
Thank you again for endless DOOM love 🤜🤛
HI
decino I have not watched one of your FANTASTIC videos in sooooo long and they are even better than I remember your the BEST TH-camR EVER in dooms history👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great run!
Wow, you really nailed it! 😎
A really great map. Not surprised you were a bit worried about this one in terms of difficulty. Great run.
I knew it ! It took only one attempt to complete this map, just as expected ! Great job !
Perhaps when we expect great challenge that we can overcome and feel confident enough, we became more overally prepared, even at thinner, deeper layers that we don't notice usually... And a bit of luck of course ! And enough of sleep and vitamins and hydration of course !
Also funny caco in thumbnail feels *veeery* familiar, like I've seen him a lot of times already... Like a tiiiny subtlest gag/expression type of familiar...
Never got to play the classic Doom games but I love watching content on them you're definitely my favorite
This map is peak Romero. And Shawn's Got The Shotgun is one of the best tracks in Doom II's soundtrack.
Thank you!! I was stumped
Nice run pumpkin man
I think I speak for everyone when I say I can't wait for Decino to play The Master Levels on Nightmare...
Fuggin nailed it! And the ending staircase... At times it looked like you were just a pixel away from falling off the cliff. And that Caco trying to block the path was a nice little surprise 🍅💀
Amazing!
This map looks so good always liked the design of it and originally it kicked my butt a few times but nowadays I tend to fly through it though I always forget the plasma secret anyway icon of sin next so will see how quickly you get through that I deliberately didn't look at the video length but yeah with that as always cheers for upload decino
Very fun to watch. Nothing else to add.
Muito bem Decino!
Você é um mestre do Doom!
A engenharia criativa de Romero é sua assinatura!
Doom é o melhor game FPS já criado!
imo one of the hardest maps in doom 2, great run
What astonishing skills you have wowww
No outtakes huh? I kind of expected you to get a good route here for some reason. Plasma and chaingun are nightmare's worst enemy or better say player's best friend and it's really nice to know this, if I want to try nightmare sometime.
Map 30 isn't much different than on UV, I bet.
When I was a kid Cacodemon's were my favourite demons, because they looked so cute. I mean they still are not gonna lie. But this was my favourite Doom map since there were so many of them. I thought that this was their home in hell haha!
This was the map that I almost never visited during my first years of playing Doom as a child, because I was too afraid of map 30 😆
map30 was the scariest for me because it pretty much ignores -nomonsters
Epic level, even more epic on Nightmare.
Hi Man Nice Video God Bless❤❤
Man that was impressive
When I replayed Doom 2 last year I'd forgotten about this map but I loved playing it. Great, great map.
Wow. Wowowow. Wowowowowow. I can't believe you just did that on your first try. Good freaking job. Wow.
I love this level because this first time in where a advance level don't exist keys, only switch buttons.
and because the tension of that level shows that all hell will not let you visit Jhon Romero.
"With practice, anything is possible"
-Decino
Vytaan needed 60 runs and had to switch to mouse to make it.
It's a very tough map for keyboard only.
Awesome level. It builds and builds to the final showdown, thankfully that Cyberdemon can be ignored. When I first saw this map, my friends saw the CD and backed off and had to try and kill him from a distance not knowing he could be ran by to win.
A Sunday afternoon doom 2 treat with decino, love it😀😀
Such a fuckin dope map. Maybe my favorite FPS level ever made.
First attempt? Nice!
2:21 Speak of the devil, and he shall respawn.
Top man 🎉
Such a great map. Totally reminds me of Perfect Hatred and Paths of Wretchedness.
"Without the plasma, you are doomed."
Haha, he said it. 1:16
Wow! Almost the end!
I always thought of this one as the big brother of E4M2 of Ultimate Doom.
This is a very interesting map
Smooth
Excellent. (Of course. ;)
1. You didn't get any secrets...
2. You didn't chainsaw the cyberdemon...😮
Finally!
The best map from doom 2 😊, hope the people who got the submissions enjoy 🎉🎉
Nice job, very skilled play in this one!! Who knows why that plasma isn't a secret?
Romero got inspired by that Doomworld post.
@@decino Oooh, timetravel plot! Is that meta-meta-meta?
I'm surprised there's no outtakes at all. Very well done! Now only the joke map remains.
It's an objectively brilliant level. There's so much going on, and it pulls off everything it tries really well. It sometimes feels mean-spirited, though. But I guess that's not out of place for Doom. And it's certainly not as sadistic as a lot of things that happen in Plutonia.
I like that this video was recommended to me in the TH-cam feed after I had watched the short clip of Zap Brannigan "That's for school girls. Here's a route with some chest hair". Chest hair indeed.