I wish Van's had a build assist program. Having to pull together all the logistics and do all the work yourself is a massive undertaking. Well done to Sling for having this in place to make it a much smaller burden for buyers.
Agree 100%!! And you were so fortunate to have those experienced gentlemen helping on your build! They were impressive to say the least!! Love your plane btw!
Yes--but all that work and research really helps a builder maintain the airplane after it's built since they do need work from time to time, but you really get to know every nut and bolt without factory assistance! The FAA rules only state that a builder participate in each major assembly--not the entire assembly. But, the experience becomes much deeper and more "ZEN like" if you build the entire assembly yourself. Vans always says "you either GET to build an airplane, or you GOT to build the airplane". For us, before each step of our RV-9A project (been flying it for 20-years now), we would pour over every word and every associated drawing before starting into the assembly. And, many things were learned by reading Vans instruction sets, including the theory behind each assembly that you were building--a vast wealth of knowledge gained! 😎
@@vivianrotunda1587 For sure yes - I loved being so immersed in the ENTIRE process of the RV-14 build. But not doubt some aspects of the logistics in terms of sourcing components and going off book to make certain things work was daunting - at times, I felt very alone sorting out some of that stuff - but in the end I do feel I know the airplane intimately, as you say. A few years back I went through the build assist for a Carbon Cub and although I learned a lot, I did feel there were very low stakes... Like it was gonna get done on schedule, and it was gonna be a safe airplane - but it was an entire different universe than what I went through building the RV-14 with my team. I guess what I was inspired to say with the initial comment is that I wish there was a build assist option, or a hybrid option for people that want a Van's aircraft.
Building an RV-14 in my garage.. Make decisions and stick to them. Don't let yourself sit and wait for a potential new thing to come because you'll never finish. Set a time to decide on Avionics, and then decide. Set a time to decide on certain "upgrades" and then decide on those upgrades. You guys are going to have such an awesome time, especially with the assist you'll be getting. Enjoy!
The original cost, maintenance, savings on non certified parts and not having to pay 5k annuals negates any depreciation. Plus the sheer knowledge of your aircraft and skills gained is priceless.
What most people don't realize is that experimental aircraft are (as they should be) at the forefront of aviation technology. That new carbon fiber composite airliner you're flying in? It exists because pioneers started building experimental airplanes with composites back in the late 1970's and 1980's. Because experimental class aircraft are not hampered by decades of (largely outdated) certification rules and liability tort, they have the latest in avionics, the latest in airframe design, the latest in engine technology. Your Cessna is using technology and design practices developed in the 1940's and 1950's (engine design actually dates back to the 1930's). Want to put the newest glass panel from Garmin into your Piper? Better hope there's an STC for that. And the STC will define exactly what functionality is allowed. If Garmin later comes out with additional functionality, that is not covered by the STC, you can't have it. In the Experimental world, our Garmin avionics always has far more features and functionality enabled than the exact same unit that goes into a certified airplane, because we're not hamstrung by the archaic STC process. Oh...and at half the price. Because of the expensive STC certification process required to get the new avionics in your Piper, that gets added to the price of the certified avionics. Not just avionics, either: ALL parts are affected this way. The EXACT SAME part or piece of avionics that goes into your certified airplane will cost you from 150% to 1000% more than the identical one that goes into your experimental. I put a new alternator in my Cozy last year, it cost me $105. To replace the alternator in a Cessna, you're looking at more like $1000.
I completed building a Van’s RV-10 during the summer of 2023 after 5 years. (The pandemic delayed everything.) The plane is currently in the final days of painting at Evoke Aviation and I can’t wait to get it back. The beauty of experimental aviation is the flexibility to modify the aircraft design to fit your own desires and needs. With that freedom comes the awesome responsibility to consider how any deviation from a proven design may affect safety and airworthiness. I incorporated the Mountain High oxygen system into my interior. They offer a pulse-demand regulator which is designed to greatly reduce the wasted oxygen when compared to a continuous flow system. I mounted the bottle on the underside of the same fiberglass shelf which holds my Airflow Systems air conditioner. Living in Texas, the AC was a MUST HAVE despite the 2 knot and 50 pound penalty. I applauded your decision to equip the aircraft for IFR. Weather can change significantly during a 5 hour cross country flight. My suite of instruments are all Garmin. I have two G3X Touch displays, the GTN 750 TXi navigator, G5 independent backup display with its own backup battery, an Independent Battery Backup System (IBBS) to power the entire panel for hours, and a Garmin autopilot. The system shares information through a CAN bus, so input is simple and redundant control in the event of a component failure is seamless. I envy your youthful enthusiasm for this project. I don’t doubt you will have fun; I really enjoyed the building process. I am also amused by your plan to be flying Phase One by September-ish. When I say, “good luck” I really mean it! That said, life happens. Especially if you two are also working and planning a wedding. I look forward to following your journey via TH-cam.
Very interesting and informative video. I'm just under two years into a flat kit TSi build. About 90% complete. Building it at home because I have the room. I get build centers and quick builds. But I enjoy the build process immensely. So the flat kit was the only option for me. The kit is impressive. I've had several questions and issues along the way, but Sling and Sling technical have been responsive. Good luck with yours. For your mission, I think you made the right choice. But then I'm not exactly impartial. I'm not big on videos or editing, but there are a couple walkaround videos in my channel.
One clarification on manufacturer imposed limitations on an experimental armature built - you are the manufacturer, you set the limitations: gross weight, etc. You have to be able justify those to your DAR when you apply for your airworthiness certificate. Your airworthiness certificate will come with ops limits. Those are the limits you must live by. I recently finished a scratch built Wittman Tailwind. It took me many years but I thoroughly enjoyed the process. Have fun!
Y’all do a great job of communicating. Talk slow and don’t talk above the average viewer’s knowledge. Clear concise vocabulary. Fellow Swt Bobcat here..
My first thought while watching this episode was, 'I need to read the comments section of the channel more often.' Congrats on your new project. Your explanations were well thought out, and I am excited to see the progress made with the build.
The hardest part will be paint colors and graphics. Builder assistance will be great and make the build quicker and smoother than building on your own. One thing that’s never talked about is climate in the work space. We built in my basement (exposed basement with patio door to get the plane out). My brother always said it so nice to do this build in the basement, AC in hot summer and furnace heat during the cold winter.
If well built they absolutely hold their value. With how Sling are gaining popularity, their resale value is better than certified. A friend of mine had a sling 2 for 3yrs. He sold it for more than he paid and 4yrs later it was double what he sold it for. He was one of the early sling owners. Absolutely no mistake building a Sling, rather than buying a dinosaur with old style instruments.
For paint, check out Mercedes paints. When I painted my plane metallic silver (notoriously challenging) I chose one of the factory colors. My understanding is that these are not mixed by the paint shop but rather at the factory, in order to ensure perfect matches during repairs. I put this to the test after using my plane as a static display for kids at our Young Eagle event. One young lady chose to jump out before I could assist and she stepped directly on the wheel pant, crushing it! A little fiberglass repair work and I dropped off the part for a re-spray (I used a car painting facility with a good booth), and you cannot tell that it was repaired.
Loved this format of answering questions you cant when you are flying. So I probably missed it but how much storage will you have if you have 4 people, 2 people and your puppy or just two people? How much does the parachute system weigh and how much room does it take away from your total storage? And the biggest subject that you never even alluded to is......When is the Wedding date ??????? Curious people, who have followed you for years, would like to know!!! You two are the perfect couple!! You became friends first which will always keep you grounded when you hit any rough spots later on in your marriage. My wife and I were high school sweethearts and have been together for 56 years. I am also still full time employed which allows us to pursue separate interests so we are not together 24/7. Let us know when you can or when you know!
Welcome to the exciting world of experimental aviation. A word of warning though. It’s hard to stop at just one. You sound like you’ve planned well. I’ll watch your progress with interest. Currently on a TSi build but it’s in a different country to where I live. It’s a blast. All the best, you’re going to love it.
I own a tsi N782MB and built it at TAF, and keep it at S43 near Seattle. We finished the fly off just before Christmas 2023 and we have about 270 hours. We couldn't be happier. Expect some squaks but am very pleased with their support. I'm happy to discuss numerous details and can offer some different experiences and opinions and anything else. Ben Taves
As the famous Mike Patey said and helped me a lot in my builds. Do one thing a day even if it’s ordering a bolt you don’t have or planing a paint scheme or looking up how to mount somthing. At least 1 thing a day That’s my best advice for building/ restoring an airplane or car or bike what ever project your tackling
21:33 As an A&P/PPl and hopefully future experimental aircraft owner, I’d love to see a video on the Rotax maintenance course! A deeper dive into Sling Mx would also be great! I really appreciate you taking the time to break down the pros/cons of experimental A/C down like this.
Hi Josh and Chels! First off, congratulations on your engagement! I’m so excited for both of you as you embark on this next chapter of your lives together-and of course, for your soon-to-be beautiful Sling TSI! I can’t wait to see you both vlog every step of the build process and all the thoughtful customizations you'll make to this incredible airframe to fit your unique needs. This video is absolutely top-notch, just as we’ve come to expect from Aviation101. You covered every key aspect with precision and attention to detail, and it’s clear how much dedication went into this production. I love that you're asking for feedback and input on the aircraft-this shows how much you care about the thoughts of your community, so I figured I’d throw my two cents into the ring! Talking colors and designs for the TSI, it reminded me of a video from Sevo1kinevo’s PC-24 in the Swiss Alps. That sharp blue/white color combination, tapering off toward the tail, is such a striking look-truly stunning, in my opinion. I know there’s been talk that a predominantly white aircraft can sometimes "date" the design, but it could still serve as a great starting point. Personally, I think a blue top with a grey bottom would look fantastic. It keeps the palette neutral and blue, while also allowing for more flare-like perhaps a gold stripe to honor 56X, and an blue stripe from 991 that intertwines at some point to symbolize the dedication between you two. This would add a unique touch and make the overall design timeless, leaving room for optional additions down the line without compromising the overall aesthetic. As others have mentioned, and from my automotive background, choosing a high-end "luxury" paint manufacturer (think Lamborghini, Mercedes, BMW, etc.) is really the best way to go for painting an aircraft. Many top-tier brands premix their paint at the factory to ensure consistency. Plus, as you and Chels discussed, finding perfect touch-up paint for metallic colors can be a real challenge. So, I’d highly recommend sourcing your paint from those high-end manufacturers to ensure a reliable supply and easier access to touch-up options. The choice of the cognac interior will pair beautifully with a blue color scheme and will definitely stand out against the usual greys and browns that many manufacturers lean toward. I also loved the idea others have suggested about incorporating a small Aviation101 logo somewhere on the aircraft. Something subtle enough that it’s not immediately noticeable, but when someone spots it, it’ll be a cool little Easter egg. Embroidering the seats like FlightChops did on his RV would also be a unique touch to consider. I can’t wait to see the notifications when a new Aviation101 video drops-every adventure you and Chels take feels like I’m right there with you, experiencing it all from the seat!
I heard the best statement ever once "if you want to build, build, if you want to fly, BUY!" I'm a contractor who is always "building" things, and the only way I would build an aircraft would be because "what I want" isn't available "unless I build." Having said that, for the two of you, given Chels's qualifications, building a SLING with the team at Sling in Torrance will probably be extremely satisfying and rewarding. Jean and Matt are awesome and their build factory is awesome. If you are willing to spend the time the rewards should be amazing.
Yes--it's a huge investment in both time and money, but once you test-fly your completed airplane for its first time, there are simply no words to describe the sensations and feelings you get from the experience--a once in a lifetime experience! As your airplane quickly and smoothly leaves the ground and accelerates skywards for its first time, it becomes hard to breath as you catch-up with your beautiful sleek ship. While building your airplane, you continue reminding yourself that you will be the first test pilot, so you take extra care in each and every step, and you have a better airplane for it! From an RV-9A builder--completed 20-years ago and still flying. 😎
I’m hoping for a Mike Patey style build video! This is going to be so exciting to follow. Thank you both for all the hard work you put into these videos; Lindsey and I can’t wait to say hi to y’all again at Osh this year.
Mogas is great. I have a 110gal transfer tank put in a trailer. If you do the same, make sure you get a tank that is DOT certified for gasoline. You can have a tank up to 110gal without placards and CDL. Saves be $2 a gal here in WA where autogas is even expensive.
I've heard that building a house together is one of the most trying things to put a relationship through. Wonder where building an airplane ranks?! 😁 Good luck, you two! Excited to live this journey vicariously through you! As for colors... pearlescent paints are beautiful now!
Looks like you made some great choices. I completed my TSi in 2023 from a flat pack with some excellent assistance from the folks at Midwest Build Center. I also did transition training at TAF so I know you guys are in very capable hands there. As far as oxygen, I believe Aithre has a hybrid solution now that is a concentrator plumbed with an external tank so you get the best of both worlds. I have no experience with it but it looks interesting for sure(it may be what. you're looking at now that I think about it). I added the external alternator to offset the aft CG affect of the BRS, but in retrospect I wish I had just solved it via some strategically-placed ballast. I also wish I had gone PTFE lines out of the gate while I was building, but did the conversion at my first condition inspection so I won't have to do the required 5 year rubber hose replacement. If you're going to run mogas and have any concerns about vaporization you might consider the wing root boost pump system offered by aerospace innovations. Apologies for the long comment.
My husband and I (both long-time pilots and aircraft owners) completed our RV-9A quick-build in 2004 after 4-years of consistent work. After the FAA inspection, my husband test-flew the airplane from Paine Field WA (the home of Boeing). We have been flying and maintaining our RV-9'er ever since then, and we just love her! Last October, we reached the 20th year milestone of flying and maintaining this wonderful fast and efficient little airplane, and we have flow her to many cross-country destinations. So, we totally agree that building a high-quality kit-plane has many great advantages--good for you! We have also been following the ROTAX engines ever since they had been used on ultra-lights. ROTAX has come a long ways over the years. But, the overall reliability of Lycoming and Continental engines are still statistically higher than ROTAX. As Vans Aircraft will tell you, a Lycoming engine only needs fuel and air to run and cool the engine. In terms of efficiency, using a 160HP Lycoming O-320, our RV-9'er uses 5-GPH to cruise at 135 knots and 8-GPH to cruise at 160 knots. It also reaches 20,000 feet (have been there) with it's highly efficient laminar flow ram-air induction. A well maintained direct-drive Lycoming engine is very simple and nearly bulletproof, and when installed on a modern highly efficient airframe like Vans RV-9A, it does every bit as good as a ROTAX. Certainly, ROTAX has come a long way, but it's still more complex in design and runs at a much higher RPM. ROTAX engines also use coated aluminum cylinder barrels without steel sleeves, so they don't always make TBO, especially at that higher RPM and turbo induction. We have found that high car engine reliability doesn't always translate to high aircraft engine reliability. The builders that we have known, who used car engines on their RV's (Subaru boxer, LS1 Corvette and Honda Fit), had all experience premature engine, gearbox and/or prop hub failures. Car engines would also easily overheat during climbs at full-power on warm days. So, please don't diminish the "good old" proven Lycoming engines before you fly and maintain a ROTAX engine as safely and reliably as we have for the same 20-years. 👍😎👍
Hi my name is Walt Carter. I have been a subscribed viewer for about 10 years now. This episode lead me to make a comment. The part about the Rotax engine being able to run motor gas and avgas made me think about motor (with ethanol) Gas going bad after 3 or 4 weeks. after I retired in 2004 I worked for my local motorcycle dealer part time. We had a 1,000 gal. gas tank to bee able to put gas new bikes. When a delivery gas truck can to delver gas the driver always put in 3 or 4 gal, of gas treatment in the tank before felling it with gas. I ask my boss what the driver was putting in the tank. He told me it was StarTron Gas treatment. For him it was the best treatment he had found. I have been using it for last 15 years in my bike for winter storage hear in PA. Good luck with new plain build and keep up the good work on Aviation 101 Walt
Your seemed to be getting a little excited calculating those performance numbers😊. Those numbers are worth getting excited about! Experimental is the way to go! I am excited for you guys!
I personally love the blue / silver / black on N723CD. Because that’s my plane!! 😂 Great to see you chose the right sling model 😉 and sorry we missed you at Osh 24 Biggest things I can think of: Avoid fading from one color to another. Looks great until you have to touch it up and then what the heck do since it’s neither color exactly Do the PTFE fuel lines, both from wings and fuselage forward. No changing rubber hoses at 5 years. Oil lines too if you can. Check with Henry at Midwest for the kit Also consider the wing root boost pumps if you’re going to use mostly mogas. Low wings and suction pumps can be an issue. Use a lead scavenger additive when you fill with avgas Consider Midwest panel for the avionics. They are incredible from design thru fly off Run separate air for heat and cool. The rotax heat is low enough that you don’t want to mix. Also seal all the potential air gaps in the back seat to keep cold air out. Bunch of good info in the Facebook forum on this Gonna be a fun build. Hope to see you all at Oshkosh 25
I am currently building a TSi at Torrance. I like blue for the color. I spotted a 2015 Ford Mustang and got the color code (N6) off the door frame and Carlos at the Airplane Factory was able to get that color for me. They really do work as a team with you on the build.
Loved your Q/A session. Unless I missed it somewhere, you have not talked about the numbers....ie.....how long to build, cost of aircraft, costs for lodging and expenses while in California etc. Looking forward to those. Thanks
Thanks to you 2 I got into Microsoft Flight Simulator (closest thing I ever will get to fly a plane on my own). Thank you for all the videos, advice and views. Stay healthy, stay happy and stay proficent.
I know you're content creators but make sure you take some time to put the cameras aside and just enjoy the build together. Super excited for you guys!! Can't wait for you to start.
I am stoked for you guys! that is an awesome choice on the plane.Glad to hear you get the parachute as well, I just had an engine out in IMC at 1000 AGL (not fun) I hope you guys go with some good blue my 172E is blue and white and should get a fresh coat of the same soon. Good luck on the build!
This Q&A was great. So many good nuggets in here, and your excitement and enthusiasm is infectious. I could not agree more about BRS. I fly lots of aircraft types, but I just feel better in our SR22. 450 hours in two SR22's and I have never taken, or continued, a flight simply because of CAPS. To your point, there are some scenarios where there are just no good options, or the best pilot skills and planning in the world won't help. Having another option, a failsafe, is invaluable.
It's so much fun to follow your journey! My Sling TSi goes into paint next month and we've been building it at Midwest Sky Sports, the other major Sling build-assist center in the US. Sounds like we picked very similar options, though I opted for standard tanks because stopping after 5-6 hours or so is totally fine with me. We also opted for two Aithre portable oxygen concentrators rather than integrating it directly into the panel. My thinking is that I just wanted it to be super easy to remove when we don't need oxygen, and I don't want to deal with an oxygen tank at all which also takes up valuable luggage space and adds weight to the baggage compartment, which with the parachute results in aft CG concerns. I think 15,000ft will be fine, and you can still go up to 18,000ft if you have just two people. Good suggestions in the comments already, just a couple things I haven't seen mentioned yet. If rear seat passenger comfort is a concern at all, you may want to consider asking them to install rear seat heating/vents. I've see this done on various builds but don't think it is standard for whatever reason. Another random thing I noticed in flying 916TS is that it's a bit louder than I was expecting. Not insurmountable with a good ANC headset, but still a bit more annoying than a 172 or something IMO. You could consider asking them to add additional insulation, perhaps on the cabin side of the firewall. Finally, if you haven't already, you should consider joining the Sling Builders Facebook group for a lot of miscellaneous great info and an active community of other Sling builders!
Do yourselves a favour when building the TSI and change all the rubber fuel lines to PTFE as its the biggest maintenance item on the sling and its not too difficult to do when you are building, we are excited to get our TSI flying in the next month or so here in sunny South Africa!
Awesome, you two are going to enjoy the build. Use to help a friend when he was building his zenith 750. I was in charge of the wiring, lightning & avionics. Something i enjoy doing. Been looking at the TSI and hope to do the same as you guys one day. Can't wait to see the videos of the building process.
I don’t know enough about planes to make suggestions other than to say don’t worry about negative comments concerning this type of aircraft. My dad rebuilt a wrecked plane back in the 60’s. He was an airplane mechanic during WWII so he had good knowledge and he had the assistance of one of the most respected mechanics in the area. He had a lot of fun with the project and I enjoyed flying with him as a child. I’m sure you guys will enjoy the process.
Enjoy the build and be in the moment. Every day I find myself being happier with my Sling TSi, N141D. The Sling TSi is a wonderful plane, great choice!
I'm excited to see what you guys come up with, I have no input but just love following this awesome channel and look forward to watching for many years to come😊
I am the owner of Sling Tsi - built in Torrance in 2024 also quick build - great experience overall but definitely some tips to pass on. Easy one is to get Rosen sunshades before you fly cross country. We are based in Florida so a lot of XC trips back and forth CA to FL
12:55 Tip from a friend of ours: Y’all should take a serious look at getting a collapsible fuel bladder for shuttling gas to and from the plane away from home. Super handy if you decide to top off with mogas and it can handle Ethanol fuel. Take a crew car to the gas station and fill up the bladder, empty it into the plane, and then collapse the bladder and put it in the cargo area.
Great to see you both providing feedback in this episode. Congrats on your new "GA" project, and wonderful to see how passionate the both of you are to work together to build your new personal plane. I also enjoyed how the both of you explained the freedom that this type of build provides with the flexibility for upgrades & maintenance along with your own personal specifications and design... Curios to know what other Experimental Aircraft (e.g: Vans RV, Lancair Mako, etc...) you both looked at, and how you ultimately chose to decide to go with Sling Aircraft?
Stoked for your sling! The school I teach at in Idaho has two sling NGT’s, the second of which I got to go down to KTOA and pick up. Got to meet the guys, and see the whole process and it is absolutely amazing what they’re doing for aviation. One thing I will say is that running the engine by ECU is definitely different. Sometimes it can throw some strange errors and cautions at you, especially in the early hours of breaking it in. Would love to see your TSI make it to Boise and up into our mountains soon!!
Parker Colorado, the ballistic recovery parachute works! couple years ago some kind of single engine plane needed use of a rescue parachute system heading into centennial airport. it works! plane floated down next to cherry creek reservoir no one injured and yes great option to have on a single engine for sure. ty 101 keep up the good work and videos
13:38 As someone who put an initial deposit on a Sling HW in August 2022 and still waiting, I can say having a TSI kit on a ship in less than 6 months is impressive.
Suggestion: check with your airport before trying to self-fuel mogas on the field. Mine made me jump through a ton of hoops to have it happen. That said, if the airport receives public funding, they can't prohibit you from self-fueling with mogas. But you do have to follow their rules. AOPA has a great document on the rules around it. I'd share the link here but pretty sure YT would kill the comment. See also FAA Compliance Order 5190.6b Section 11 Another suggestion: Cirrus really has done their homework on when to deploy and not deploy the parachute. Some of those courses are available to non-cirrus pilots. Check them out. They're really good. I am, right now, looking at building an airplane. I have 3 candidates: Sling TSI, TL Sparker, RV916 (which is an RV9 with a rotax 916). I'm leaning towards the TL.
For paint, the first 3 images you showed for ideas were amazing. The blue of the first one with the theme of the second one and add silver from the third and you’ll have a winner!
Aerox has a canine oxygen mask. You need a constant flow system. Also depends on the dog, if they are comfortable with something on their face. Worth a look to see if it is something that may work for you.
You chose wisely. I own a ‘72 Beech Musketeer, and had the opportunity to fly a Sling not too long ago and was immensely impressed by it. Just a joy to fly. That HW is a lovely aircraft, but no surprise you chose the TSi. It’s pretty special.
$$$$$$ is why. For $330,000 & $100,000 in incidentals, you get a new aircraft that meets mission requirements. Or get a new 182 or a Cirrus for 3 times that much....
My wife and I started building our Velocity XL-RG in our garage and eventually at the airport. It took 15 years to build and we've been flying it ten years now. Your story sounds parallel. It sounds like you have figured it out. My one piece of advice is do not deviate from the plan. Our build took extra long because we "could make it better". Every time we did, it took an exorbitant amount of time. We started building when our model when it was new so we got to learn while the factory was learning. The first flight is something to remember. I think it was a Lockheed test pilot once said "when I taxied onto the runway and realized I'm the only thing in this airplane that has flown before". I remember every detail of my first flight like it was yesterday and it was ten years ago. As for your paint scheme goes...good luck. We went though 15 iterations and finally landed on something we could "live with". Bottom line, I can't think of any more rewarding experience. When we flew over the Ripon coming into Oshkosh our first time in an airplane we built is an experience that will stay with you for the rest of your life.
Hi you two, how exciting this new venture of yours is going to be especially as you are in the US, and under their rules. I built the first four seater Jabiru J430 ( stol wings), aircraft in the U.K. and being U.K. registered it can’t be flown IMC/IR so all the other good things that you talked about in your last video, night etc, we can’t do. Please double check that should you fly to the U.K. your N registration allows you to fly IR here. Re paint, it all equals weight, not the friend of light aircraft. Finally mine was a quick build same time as yours and it took nine months from receipt. I sincerely hope that your governing body will be more kind to you than ours was, but admittedly it was the first of type. Good luck and have great fun in building and flying. Mike Record. G-RDCO
Awesome, having Chelsea with more screen time and lending her A&P expertise in the upcoming build!! So looking forward to the series! Love you guys!! Best aviation channel on TH-cam!!
Hello Josh and Chelsea, I’m 15 and a sophomore in High school. I live in Tucson AZ and go to flight school based out of KAVQ (Marana Regional) and I have≈65 flight hours, and I have all my PPL requirements. I mainly fly a PA-28/181 ArcherII but I also have time in C-172’s and C-182. I am just waiting to turn 17 to get my license. I am apart of a program called SATA(Southern Arizona Teen Aviation) and we are building a VANS RV-12is with a Rotax 912-is. I have plenty of work hours on the rotax engine, there awesome. Our plane has DYION avionics, and with that being said, I would recommend that do some research when looking at parts/ upgrades, don’t just go for the name brand. Also the instructions are there for a reason, and sometimes you need to just walk away and come back with fresh eyes. I also am going to have a chance to go to OSH-25 and I hope I can meet both of you!!Until then safe flying.
Regarding your paint scheme; Have you considered doing a vinyl wrap like they're doing on cars/trucks for business owners? Very durable and if you get bored, or when it starts getting a little faded, it's easily changed for a fraction of a paint job. Just peel and stick. All you need is a base color painted. I know for a fact they're doing them on aircraft. GOOD LUCK!
Chelsea and Josh. Congrats on your engagement, and your exciting big project news! Thank you for rescuing that cute pup (we have 6 rescues in our home, plus a rescue foster). They are the best, and bring so much joy! A simple O2 crate may be the answer for the pup at high alt. Ask your vet about how they set up an O2 enclosure in their practice. I'm sure you could dig up similar that would fit in back seat. I imagine we may see you here in South Mississippi in the near future at South Mississippi Light Aircraft in Lucedale, MS. Ronnie Smith and son Morris are the Rotax gurus, and teach the Rotax maint courses at all levels. Just get on their schedule early, you can easily complete their owner level, and line maint level courses in one 4-5 day visit. They both live on there golf course smooth 3000 ft turf strip, MS22. Ballistic recovery system - we just replaced our BRS system in our flight school's Flight Design CTSW with a Junkers Chute system. This was done for a number of reasons, but primarily due to the lengthy (3 mos+) for chute inspect/repack turn around, and because the Junkers system is a soft pack system, and can be changed out in 1-2 days. I know 6 years seems like a long time, but it comes quickly. The Junkers Co. will send you a certified, inspected, repacked chute in advance of yours expiring, you simply swap yours out, return your out of date chute, and receive a core charge refund when they receive your chute. This is a huge advantage, and they are half the cost for that inspection compared to BRS. This is especially important for schools and busy traveller's like yourselves. Taking your plane off line for a day vs. 3-4 months... You should ask these questions of BRS, Sling, and Junkers. The confusion over Exp vs Part 23, vs. S-LSA, vs E-LSA... have so many rumors flying... everyone just believes what's on the internet. It's kind of like the term "PPL" that I hear so often. There is no such thing... There is a Private Pilot Certificate so I guess PPC would be legit. Licenses expire, Certificates do not. The requirements to exercise that certificate expire (medical, BFR, currency, ) expire, but not the certificate itself. Well many of your commenter's "no night, no ifr" info may be coming from the possibility that light sport pilots can't fly at night, or ifr, or above 10,000 feet, and a number of other restrictions (that can be removed via endorsements). But, each Special Light Sport Aircraft "S-LSA" (which are only the factory built ones) airworthiness certificate (again not a "license") comes with an "Operating Limitations for Light Sport Aircraft Letter (Aircraft/Gyroplane/etc). That letter is specific to the Make, Model, Serial, and Tail number of the aircraft listed on the AW cert. That document will specify any limitations or required equipment to operate in specific conditions like night VFR, or IFR. In our particular case, our limitations letters state if the aircraft is equipped per 91.205, it is authorized for both night and IFR flight. Just because the plane can, the limitation on a light sport PILOTS certificate restrictions Sport Pilot to Day VFR operations. There are plenty of IFR equipped Lancair, Glassair, RV, Falco, Epic, aircraft flying every day. Ask Mike Patey, for example? If you get down this way, please consider stopping in at 5R2, Ocean Springs MS. On the east edge of a very unique and historic city. Founded in 1699, a walkable, bikeable, golf cart friendly town, on the white sands of the Gulf. Full of art, food, boutique hotels, and photographic beauty. You would both love it here, and I would be glad to help you plan a visit. Just call the number for 5R2 in Foreflight, speak to our airport owner, get my number, Mark S. I'm certain we could find you a courtesy car/truck, and recs on all the fun places to stay, eat, and visit. I look forward to your call.
So excited for you both & to vicariously follow along with your build process. The Sling Tsi looks like an awesome aircraft for you & cant wait to see it come together. If I had the time i would LOVE to build something like that. Awesome.
I am an experimental (Zenith) builder/owner/flyer and I will tell you that you are going to enjoy the experience and will probably say you wish you had done it sooner. The biggest shock will probably be the cost of insurance, experimental (especially from companies not located in the USA) planes tend to be higher than certificated…
You two are great aviation professionals and provide great knowledge and insight for GA pilots. That said, I would ask (or maybe get legal advice on this) about the use of an experimental aircraft that becomes part of your filming and presentation of monetized videos through TH-cam. You point out that as long as the plane is 'not for hire' you are OK, however since the equipment is used and becomes integral to the production of your videos from which you (or both of you) receive some kind of compensation via monetization, the argument can be made that the airplane was used for commercial purposes. Not trying to 'step in it' with you but I would suggest consultation with legal counsel if not already done so. Keep flying you two as I always like to see fellow pilots promote safety and innovation in the GA world.
So much misinformation and lack of information regarding the experimental aviation world. You did a good job in informing and dispelling. Look forward to your build videos. Cheers from Winnipeg.
Built a cobra replica and while not an aircraft, working with metal and composites is the same either way. You guys will do great and enjoy the process with a sense of satisfaction you will not get otherwise! Finishing up my PPL and about to sit for my check ride :)
Nice one you two and what a day with the weather. thats the sort of weather where you go to the hanger and build a homebuild. looking forward to some surprises
Something to think about on the paint on the plane is the amount of abuse the paint will endure. I never understood why everyone paints the darker colors on top and the white underneath. If I could afford a paint job it would be lighter to darker complimentary colors. White on top because it won’t get as hot in the direct sunlight and depending on how the rotax is exhausted under the plane I’d do the dark colors underneath. It’s going to take the most abuse with debris being kicked up and with exhaust blow back. Just my two cents on the matter….good luck and looking forward to the build.
The resale of a kit aircraft may also depend on the reputation of the builder. Much the same as a custom built car, the build from a well known builder is known to sell for more and to depreciate less or even increase in value. A recent crash of a Vans seems to be the fault of the owner / pilot not installing the updated door latch and the door opening while in flight. Certified aircraft would be forced to have the updated latch installed. The installation of such items in an experimental aircraft are often optional.
A Europa in 2002. Tools and Techniques. Don't stop, but make sure you don't forget to take time to enjoy what you are doing. It is fun and the great thing is you can work on all when it is said and done
Did mine (alone) between March 2017 to October 2019. Had help to install wings and tailcone. Expect (assuming you build alone) to spend a LOT of money on almost never used, but expensive tooling (aircraft scales, prop balancer) and annual maintenance items (carb balancer [assuming not injected], compression differential), etc.. Plus standard build items: gloves, chemicals, drills and bits (drill press and hand drill -- electric and hand) and all the extension accessories, plus drivers and extensions, ratchets, safety wire and pliers, and clecos, and more clecos, and pliers, and tape (electric, duct, masking, etc.) and butcher paper and coax cutters and crimpers and accessories (plus the coax [often RG400]) and flashlites and shop llights and paint guns and tyvex and paint and MEK (lots of MEK) and alcohol and greases and oils and oil filter cutters and wrenches and jacks and stands and TALC and, and, and, and ,,,,,, {{ and don't forget: T I M E and commitment }}.... Have fun and keep good spirits and forward thinking and wishes of blue skies and tailwinds ....
Oh, and be ready for Service Bulletins ---- lots of service bulletins (at this moment, I'm sure you've heard the Rotax latest on the generators and on the defective blocks/case and gear box {PSRU} housings. And don't forget that Rotax abhors the use of 100LL [says to use it as last resort]. Besides doubling frequency of spark plug and oil changes, the PSRU also needs to be MAJORed every 600 hours -- by a certified shop -- if you use 100LL {they allow you to go to TBO if you go strictly with 0-ethanol 0-lead MoGas or UL94 or G1000} --- absorb the contents of the Rotax MX Manual -- HEAVY (as well as the LINE and Ops MX manuals).
If you are buying a plane (or boat, atv, RV, etc.) for resale value, then you aren't shopping for the right reasons. These are things you buy for your specific purpose and the value is in the experiences and time spent using it. Take as good of care of it as you can and what you get out of it when you are ready to move on is what you get. Not everything in life is about the dough.
I have owned my Beachcraft P - 35 Bonanza for 35 years… I am a CFII and currently do a fair amount of IFR flying. In those 35 years, avionics have changed dramatically. When I started out, King Avionics were the best. That has transitioned and I now feel that Garmin is clearly the market leader. I have equipped my Bonanza with a Garmin GFC 500 auto pilot, (3axis) and electric trim. I also have GTN 750 and 650 TXI, Garmin GTX345 transponder and GMA 350 Audio panel. I also have a G500 MFD/PFD. Great functionality with the G500 autopilot! I have a King KTA 870 active TCAS. I would recommend all of the above but would opt for the active Garmin traffic TCAS and either a G500txi or G3X PFD/MFD. I would recommend CIES fuel sensors for fuel gauge sensors and LED lights and strobes.
When you start your build make sure you document everything with photos it realy helps with resale value way down the road if possible buyers can look at photos of the whole process vs a logbook entry.
I personally would do a medium to dark navy blue main color with gold or bronze stripes. But just my personal thing. 🙂 Have fun participating in the build and customization.
Totally do a design contest, and maybe the prize is a Sling sponsored trip to the factory for a tour and flight! I'd definitely be interested in entering that! Have some designs floating around in my head.
I'm looking forward to your build. Experimental aircraft was my dream but the insurance cost dissuaded me. A 172D in my hangar now and your videos, along with Chris Palmers have inspired me on what is possible with a cessna. In the interim, I'll be building vicariously through you!
I have been following your adventures for a long time Josh - and I am delighted to have Chelse (Sorry if I got that wrong, autocorrect had 3 options for your name and I don't know which you use) joining you on these adventures. It has been enjoyable to see your videography skills develop over time. I am severely impatient to see the first video in your TSI. As a viewer, I have a couple things that would add interest: time-lapse videos of your longer flights with some of the ATC comms over-dubbed, and an external camera toward the bottom rear of the airplane so that we can see exactly how smoothly you spread the butter on your landings (plus it would offer some pretty cool shots of terrain while in flight). Oh, and how about an external 360 camera that the viewer can point in any direction? Anyway, it is a privilege to join you on your flights, and I thank you sincerely for bringing us along on your life journey. Following winds and clear skies, you two!
Here are 4 lessons I can share from building my slowbuild RV-8 in Quebec, Canada since 2015: 1) This project must be amongst your top 3 priorities in your life, and for a long time. Life got in the way of my project in the form of working a full time job and be a part time flight instructor. Now working toward ATPL and Senior CFI rating, my project is being delayed further more... 2) Your homebuilt project needs to be very close to your home. It is those regular 30 min to 2 hours sessions many times a week than will make your project progress the most. I moved my project too early to the airport hangar thinking it would be beneficial. When my project was 5 minutes from home, I could put lots of hours to it. Now at the airport, I have to drive 45 minutes to get to my project and 45 minutes back home. Therefore, most week nights, especially in the Canadian winter, I don't go to the airport to work on my project. My project is suffering from the lack of regular and constant work... 3) Your workshop must be extremely well organized, both for tools and parts/hardware storage. Leisure time is a premium, and loosing time looking for tools and parts in your shop is killing your productivity. Again, if you have only 1 hours in an evening to work on your project, and your loose 30 minutes to find a tool or any hardware, you are not productive. Since I moved to my new airport hangar, I didn't take the time to organize the 'shop'. I am wasting so much time looking for what I need to build my airplane, it is frustrating. 4) Avoid trying to customize the aircraft too much. Being an engineer, I tend to want to redesign everything, hence adding unnecessary work to my airplane. Keep it simple ! Have fun with the building process. It is very educative and rewarding.
I wish Van's had a build assist program. Having to pull together all the logistics and do all the work yourself is a massive undertaking. Well done to Sling for having this in place to make it a much smaller burden for buyers.
Agree 100%!! And you were so fortunate to have those experienced gentlemen helping on your build! They were impressive to say the least!! Love your plane btw!
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@@FlightChops plus the riveting on the vans requires two people, it’s a huge commitment.
Yes--but all that work and research really helps a builder maintain the airplane after it's built since they do need work from time to time, but you really get to know every nut and bolt without factory assistance! The FAA rules only state that a builder participate in each major assembly--not the entire assembly. But, the experience becomes much deeper and more "ZEN like" if you build the entire assembly yourself. Vans always says "you either GET to build an airplane, or you GOT to build the airplane". For us, before each step of our RV-9A project (been flying it for 20-years now), we would pour over every word and every associated drawing before starting into the assembly. And, many things were learned by reading Vans instruction sets, including the theory behind each assembly that you were building--a vast wealth of knowledge gained! 😎
@@vivianrotunda1587 For sure yes - I loved being so immersed in the ENTIRE process of the RV-14 build. But not doubt some aspects of the logistics in terms of sourcing components and going off book to make certain things work was daunting - at times, I felt very alone sorting out some of that stuff - but in the end I do feel I know the airplane intimately, as you say.
A few years back I went through the build assist for a Carbon Cub and although I learned a lot, I did feel there were very low stakes... Like it was gonna get done on schedule, and it was gonna be a safe airplane - but it was an entire different universe than what I went through building the RV-14 with my team.
I guess what I was inspired to say with the initial comment is that I wish there was a build assist option, or a hybrid option for people that want a Van's aircraft.
You two are so amazing together! I love this channel even more now and I've been watching since the beginning.
Same here! They’re perfect for each other, and this channel is going to only get better!
Facts and same here. I remember when Josh was filming his private lessons. Fun stuff.
Building an RV-14 in my garage.. Make decisions and stick to them. Don't let yourself sit and wait for a potential new thing to come because you'll never finish. Set a time to decide on Avionics, and then decide. Set a time to decide on certain "upgrades" and then decide on those upgrades. You guys are going to have such an awesome time, especially with the assist you'll be getting. Enjoy!
You’ll love the RV-14 🎉
Perfection is the enemy of completion...
The original cost, maintenance, savings on non certified parts and not having to pay 5k annuals negates any depreciation. Plus the sheer knowledge of your aircraft and skills gained is priceless.
What most people don't realize is that experimental aircraft are (as they should be) at the forefront of aviation technology. That new carbon fiber composite airliner you're flying in? It exists because pioneers started building experimental airplanes with composites back in the late 1970's and 1980's. Because experimental class aircraft are not hampered by decades of (largely outdated) certification rules and liability tort, they have the latest in avionics, the latest in airframe design, the latest in engine technology. Your Cessna is using technology and design practices developed in the 1940's and 1950's (engine design actually dates back to the 1930's).
Want to put the newest glass panel from Garmin into your Piper? Better hope there's an STC for that. And the STC will define exactly what functionality is allowed. If Garmin later comes out with additional functionality, that is not covered by the STC, you can't have it. In the Experimental world, our Garmin avionics always has far more features and functionality enabled than the exact same unit that goes into a certified airplane, because we're not hamstrung by the archaic STC process. Oh...and at half the price. Because of the expensive STC certification process required to get the new avionics in your Piper, that gets added to the price of the certified avionics. Not just avionics, either: ALL parts are affected this way. The EXACT SAME part or piece of avionics that goes into your certified airplane will cost you from 150% to 1000% more than the identical one that goes into your experimental. I put a new alternator in my Cozy last year, it cost me $105. To replace the alternator in a Cessna, you're looking at more like $1000.
I completed building a Van’s RV-10 during the summer of 2023 after 5 years. (The pandemic delayed everything.) The plane is currently in the final days of painting at Evoke Aviation and I can’t wait to get it back.
The beauty of experimental aviation is the flexibility to modify the aircraft design to fit your own desires and needs. With that freedom comes the awesome responsibility to consider how any deviation from a proven design may affect safety and airworthiness.
I incorporated the Mountain High oxygen system into my interior. They offer a pulse-demand regulator which is designed to greatly reduce the wasted oxygen when compared to a continuous flow system. I mounted the bottle on the underside of the same fiberglass shelf which holds my Airflow Systems air conditioner. Living in Texas, the AC was a MUST HAVE despite the 2 knot and 50 pound penalty.
I applauded your decision to equip the aircraft for IFR. Weather can change significantly during a 5 hour cross country flight. My suite of instruments are all Garmin. I have two G3X Touch displays, the GTN 750 TXi navigator, G5 independent backup display with its own backup battery, an Independent Battery Backup System (IBBS) to power the entire panel for hours, and a Garmin autopilot. The system shares information through a CAN bus, so input is simple and redundant control in the event of a component failure is seamless.
I envy your youthful enthusiasm for this project. I don’t doubt you will have fun; I really enjoyed the building process. I am also amused by your plan to be flying Phase One by September-ish. When I say, “good luck” I really mean it! That said, life happens. Especially if you two are also working and planning a wedding. I look forward to following your journey via TH-cam.
#1 thing I learned, the tools. Lots and lots of specific tools needed. #2. Don’t pause or stop. KEEP GOING.
Very interesting and informative video. I'm just under two years into a flat kit TSi build. About 90% complete. Building it at home because I have the room. I get build centers and quick builds. But I enjoy the build process immensely. So the flat kit was the only option for me. The kit is impressive. I've had several questions and issues along the way, but Sling and Sling technical have been responsive. Good luck with yours. For your mission, I think you made the right choice. But then I'm not exactly impartial. I'm not big on videos or editing, but there are a couple walkaround videos in my channel.
90% to go!!!
Agreed. This is a fun build!
One clarification on manufacturer imposed limitations on an experimental armature built - you are the manufacturer, you set the limitations: gross weight, etc. You have to be able justify those to your DAR when you apply for your airworthiness certificate. Your airworthiness certificate will come with ops limits. Those are the limits you must live by. I recently finished a scratch built Wittman Tailwind. It took me many years but I thoroughly enjoyed the process. Have fun!
Y’all do a great job of communicating. Talk slow and don’t talk above the average viewer’s knowledge. Clear concise vocabulary.
Fellow Swt Bobcat here..
My first thought while watching this episode was, 'I need to read the comments section of the channel more often.'
Congrats on your new project. Your explanations were well thought out, and I am excited to see the progress made with the build.
The hardest part will be paint colors and graphics. Builder assistance will be great and make the build quicker and smoother than building on your own. One thing that’s never talked about is climate in the work space. We built in my basement (exposed basement with patio door to get the plane out). My brother always said it so nice to do this build in the basement, AC in hot summer and furnace heat during the cold winter.
Thanks for always producing high-quality content! Looking forward to the Sling TSI build. It’s going to turn out fantastic!
If well built they absolutely hold their value. With how Sling are gaining popularity, their resale value is better than certified. A friend of mine had a sling 2 for 3yrs. He sold it for more than he paid and 4yrs later it was double what he sold it for. He was one of the early sling owners. Absolutely no mistake building a Sling, rather than buying a dinosaur with old style instruments.
For paint, check out Mercedes paints. When I painted my plane metallic silver (notoriously challenging) I chose one of the factory colors. My understanding is that these are not mixed by the paint shop but rather at the factory, in order to ensure perfect matches during repairs. I put this to the test after using my plane as a static display for kids at our Young Eagle event. One young lady chose to jump out before I could assist and she stepped directly on the wheel pant, crushing it! A little fiberglass repair work and I dropped off the part for a re-spray (I used a car painting facility with a good booth), and you cannot tell that it was repaired.
@@russbeers9613 fantastic advice! I’ll look into their paints. 🫡
Loved this format of answering questions you cant when you are flying. So I probably missed it but how much storage will you have if you have 4 people, 2 people and your puppy or just two people? How much does the parachute system weigh and how much room does it take away from your total storage?
And the biggest subject that you never even alluded to is......When is the Wedding date ??????? Curious people, who have followed you for years, would like to know!!! You two are the perfect couple!! You became friends first which will always keep you grounded when you hit any rough spots later on in your marriage. My wife and I were high school sweethearts and have been together for 56 years. I am also still full time employed which allows us to pursue separate interests so we are not together 24/7. Let us know when you can or when you know!
Welcome to the exciting world of experimental aviation. A word of warning though. It’s hard to stop at just one. You sound like you’ve planned well. I’ll watch your progress with interest. Currently on a TSi build but it’s in a different country to where I live. It’s a blast. All the best, you’re going to love it.
I own a tsi N782MB and built it at TAF, and keep it at S43 near Seattle. We finished the fly off just before Christmas 2023 and we have about 270 hours. We couldn't be happier. Expect some squaks but am very pleased with their support. I'm happy to discuss numerous details and can offer some different experiences and opinions and anything else. Ben Taves
You guys rock. I want to thank you for doing all the hard work to find me my future airplane. The Sling TSI is incredible on all levels!
I absolutely love your enthusiasm for this! Can’t wait for the build footage!!
Proud of you guys. Enjoy your gift to yourselves. You guys are great
Who could be better ambassadors for the sling brand than you two? Your enthusiasm and due diligence are awesome!
As the famous Mike Patey said and helped me a lot in my builds. Do one thing a day even if it’s ordering a bolt you don’t have or planing a paint scheme or looking up how to mount somthing. At least 1 thing a day
That’s my best advice for building/ restoring an airplane or car or bike what ever project your tackling
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As an A&P/PPl and hopefully future experimental aircraft owner, I’d love to see a video on the Rotax maintenance course! A deeper dive into Sling Mx would also be great! I really appreciate you taking the time to break down the pros/cons of experimental A/C down like this.
Hi Josh and Chels! First off, congratulations on your engagement! I’m so excited for both of you as you embark on this next chapter of your lives together-and of course, for your soon-to-be beautiful Sling TSI! I can’t wait to see you both vlog every step of the build process and all the thoughtful customizations you'll make to this incredible airframe to fit your unique needs.
This video is absolutely top-notch, just as we’ve come to expect from Aviation101. You covered every key aspect with precision and attention to detail, and it’s clear how much dedication went into this production.
I love that you're asking for feedback and input on the aircraft-this shows how much you care about the thoughts of your community, so I figured I’d throw my two cents into the ring!
Talking colors and designs for the TSI, it reminded me of a video from Sevo1kinevo’s PC-24 in the Swiss Alps. That sharp blue/white color combination, tapering off toward the tail, is such a striking look-truly stunning, in my opinion.
I know there’s been talk that a predominantly white aircraft can sometimes "date" the design, but it could still serve as a great starting point. Personally, I think a blue top with a grey bottom would look fantastic. It keeps the palette neutral and blue, while also allowing for more flare-like perhaps a gold stripe to honor 56X, and an blue stripe from 991 that intertwines at some point to symbolize the dedication between you two. This would add a unique touch and make the overall design timeless, leaving room for optional additions down the line without compromising the overall aesthetic.
As others have mentioned, and from my automotive background, choosing a high-end "luxury" paint manufacturer (think Lamborghini, Mercedes, BMW, etc.) is really the best way to go for painting an aircraft. Many top-tier brands premix their paint at the factory to ensure consistency. Plus, as you and Chels discussed, finding perfect touch-up paint for metallic colors can be a real challenge. So, I’d highly recommend sourcing your paint from those high-end manufacturers to ensure a reliable supply and easier access to touch-up options.
The choice of the cognac interior will pair beautifully with a blue color scheme and will definitely stand out against the usual greys and browns that many manufacturers lean toward.
I also loved the idea others have suggested about incorporating a small Aviation101 logo somewhere on the aircraft. Something subtle enough that it’s not immediately noticeable, but when someone spots it, it’ll be a cool little Easter egg. Embroidering the seats like FlightChops did on his RV would also be a unique touch to consider.
I can’t wait to see the notifications when a new Aviation101 video drops-every adventure you and Chels take feels like I’m right there with you, experiencing it all from the seat!
I heard the best statement ever once "if you want to build, build, if you want to fly, BUY!" I'm a contractor who is always "building" things, and the only way I would build an aircraft would be because "what I want" isn't available "unless I build." Having said that, for the two of you, given Chels's qualifications, building a SLING with the team at Sling in Torrance will probably be extremely satisfying and rewarding. Jean and Matt are awesome and their build factory is awesome. If you are willing to spend the time the rewards should be amazing.
Yes--it's a huge investment in both time and money, but once you test-fly your completed airplane for its first time, there are simply no words to describe the sensations and feelings you get from the experience--a once in a lifetime experience! As your airplane quickly and smoothly leaves the ground and accelerates skywards for its first time, it becomes hard to breath as you catch-up with your beautiful sleek ship. While building your airplane, you continue reminding yourself that you will be the first test pilot, so you take extra care in each and every step, and you have a better airplane for it! From an RV-9A builder--completed 20-years ago and still flying. 😎
I’m hoping for a Mike Patey style build video! This is going to be so exciting to follow. Thank you both for all the hard work you put into these videos; Lindsey and I can’t wait to say hi to y’all again at Osh this year.
The funny thing was I was wondering if we could get Mike Patey to give a “Mike Patey treatment” to a SlingTsi. That’d be pretty funny.
I'm a CFI at Sling and built an RV-12 in high school! I'm so excited to watch ya'll through this process and can't wait to see the final TSi!
That’s fantastic! Maybe we’ll see you at TOA ❤ fly safe
Mogas is great. I have a 110gal transfer tank put in a trailer. If you do the same, make sure you get a tank that is DOT certified for gasoline. You can have a tank up to 110gal without placards and CDL. Saves be $2 a gal here in WA where autogas is even expensive.
Even more if you are close enough to fill it in Idaho :)
I've heard that building a house together is one of the most trying things to put a relationship through. Wonder where building an airplane ranks?! 😁 Good luck, you two! Excited to live this journey vicariously through you! As for colors... pearlescent paints are beautiful now!
Chelsea turns the wrenches in that relationship. 😉
Looks like you made some great choices. I completed my TSi in 2023 from a flat pack with some excellent assistance from the folks at Midwest Build Center. I also did transition training at TAF so I know you guys are in very capable hands there. As far as oxygen, I believe Aithre has a hybrid solution now that is a concentrator plumbed with an external tank so you get the best of both worlds. I have no experience with it but it looks interesting for sure(it may be what. you're looking at now that I think about it). I added the external alternator to offset the aft CG affect of the BRS, but in retrospect I wish I had just solved it via some strategically-placed ballast. I also wish I had gone PTFE lines out of the gate while I was building, but did the conversion at my first condition inspection so I won't have to do the required 5 year rubber hose replacement. If you're going to run mogas and have any concerns about vaporization you might consider the wing root boost pump system offered by aerospace innovations. Apologies for the long comment.
My husband and I (both long-time pilots and aircraft owners) completed our RV-9A quick-build in 2004 after 4-years of consistent work. After the FAA inspection, my husband test-flew the airplane from Paine Field WA (the home of Boeing). We have been flying and maintaining our RV-9'er ever since then, and we just love her! Last October, we reached the 20th year milestone of flying and maintaining this wonderful fast and efficient little airplane, and we have flow her to many cross-country destinations. So, we totally agree that building a high-quality kit-plane has many great advantages--good for you! We have also been following the ROTAX engines ever since they had been used on ultra-lights. ROTAX has come a long ways over the years. But, the overall reliability of Lycoming and Continental engines are still statistically higher than ROTAX. As Vans Aircraft will tell you, a Lycoming engine only needs fuel and air to run and cool the engine. In terms of efficiency, using a 160HP Lycoming O-320, our RV-9'er uses 5-GPH to cruise at 135 knots and 8-GPH to cruise at 160 knots. It also reaches 20,000 feet (have been there) with it's highly efficient laminar flow ram-air induction. A well maintained direct-drive Lycoming engine is very simple and nearly bulletproof, and when installed on a modern highly efficient airframe like Vans RV-9A, it does every bit as good as a ROTAX. Certainly, ROTAX has come a long way, but it's still more complex in design and runs at a much higher RPM. ROTAX engines also use coated aluminum cylinder barrels without steel sleeves, so they don't always make TBO, especially at that higher RPM and turbo induction. We have found that high car engine reliability doesn't always translate to high aircraft engine reliability. The builders that we have known, who used car engines on their RV's (Subaru boxer, LS1 Corvette and Honda Fit), had all experience premature engine, gearbox and/or prop hub failures. Car engines would also easily overheat during climbs at full-power on warm days. So, please don't diminish the "good old" proven Lycoming engines before you fly and maintain a ROTAX engine as safely and reliably as we have for the same 20-years. 👍😎👍
Hi my name is Walt Carter. I have been a subscribed viewer for about 10 years now. This episode lead me to make a comment. The part about the Rotax engine being able to run motor gas and avgas made me think about motor (with ethanol) Gas going bad after 3 or 4 weeks. after I retired in 2004 I worked for my local motorcycle dealer part time. We had a 1,000 gal. gas tank to bee able to put gas new bikes. When a delivery gas truck can to delver gas the driver always put in 3 or 4 gal, of gas treatment in the tank before felling it with gas. I ask my boss what the driver was putting in the tank. He told me it was StarTron Gas treatment. For him it was the best treatment he had found. I have been using it for last 15 years in my bike for winter storage hear in PA. Good luck with new plain build and keep up the good work on Aviation 101 Walt
Your seemed to be getting a little excited calculating those performance numbers😊. Those numbers are worth getting excited about! Experimental is the way to go! I am excited for you guys!
I personally love the blue / silver / black on N723CD.
Because that’s my plane!! 😂
Great to see you chose the right sling model 😉 and sorry we missed you at Osh 24
Biggest things I can think of:
Avoid fading from one color to another. Looks great until you have to touch it up and then what the heck do since it’s neither color exactly
Do the PTFE fuel lines, both from wings and fuselage forward. No changing rubber hoses at 5 years. Oil lines too if you can. Check with Henry at Midwest for the kit
Also consider the wing root boost pumps if you’re going to use mostly mogas. Low wings and suction pumps can be an issue. Use a lead scavenger additive when you fill with avgas
Consider Midwest panel for the avionics. They are incredible from design thru fly off
Run separate air for heat and cool. The rotax heat is low enough that you don’t want to mix. Also seal all the potential air gaps in the back seat to keep cold air out. Bunch of good info in the Facebook forum on this
Gonna be a fun build. Hope to see you all at Oshkosh 25
I am currently building a TSi at Torrance. I like blue for the color. I spotted a 2015 Ford Mustang and got the color code (N6) off the door frame and Carlos at the Airplane Factory was able to get that color for me. They really do work as a team with you on the build.
Loved your Q/A session. Unless I missed it somewhere, you have not talked about the numbers....ie.....how long to build, cost of aircraft, costs for lodging and expenses while in California etc. Looking forward to those. Thanks
This whole TSI project and all the upcoming adventures are going to be truly EPIC!
Thanks to you 2 I got into Microsoft Flight Simulator (closest thing I ever will get to fly a plane on my own). Thank you for all the videos, advice and views. Stay healthy, stay happy and stay proficent.
I know you're content creators but make sure you take some time to put the cameras aside and just enjoy the build together. Super excited for you guys!! Can't wait for you to start.
Happy for this wonderful couple. Can’t wait! ✈️
Exciting stuff! Love that you're sharing your life's adventures with us.
I am stoked for you guys! that is an awesome choice on the plane.Glad to hear you get the parachute as well, I just had an engine out in IMC at 1000 AGL (not fun) I hope you guys go with some good blue my 172E is blue and white and should get a fresh coat of the same soon. Good luck on the build!
This Q&A was great. So many good nuggets in here, and your excitement and enthusiasm is infectious. I could not agree more about BRS. I fly lots of aircraft types, but I just feel better in our SR22. 450 hours in two SR22's and I have never taken, or continued, a flight simply because of CAPS. To your point, there are some scenarios where there are just no good options, or the best pilot skills and planning in the world won't help. Having another option, a failsafe, is invaluable.
It's so much fun to follow your journey! My Sling TSi goes into paint next month and we've been building it at Midwest Sky Sports, the other major Sling build-assist center in the US. Sounds like we picked very similar options, though I opted for standard tanks because stopping after 5-6 hours or so is totally fine with me. We also opted for two Aithre portable oxygen concentrators rather than integrating it directly into the panel. My thinking is that I just wanted it to be super easy to remove when we don't need oxygen, and I don't want to deal with an oxygen tank at all which also takes up valuable luggage space and adds weight to the baggage compartment, which with the parachute results in aft CG concerns. I think 15,000ft will be fine, and you can still go up to 18,000ft if you have just two people.
Good suggestions in the comments already, just a couple things I haven't seen mentioned yet. If rear seat passenger comfort is a concern at all, you may want to consider asking them to install rear seat heating/vents. I've see this done on various builds but don't think it is standard for whatever reason.
Another random thing I noticed in flying 916TS is that it's a bit louder than I was expecting. Not insurmountable with a good ANC headset, but still a bit more annoying than a 172 or something IMO. You could consider asking them to add additional insulation, perhaps on the cabin side of the firewall.
Finally, if you haven't already, you should consider joining the Sling Builders Facebook group for a lot of miscellaneous great info and an active community of other Sling builders!
Do yourselves a favour when building the TSI and change all the rubber fuel lines to PTFE as its the biggest maintenance item on the sling and its not too difficult to do when you are building, we are excited to get our TSI flying in the next month or so here in sunny South Africa!
Awesome, you two are going to enjoy the build. Use to help a friend when he was building his zenith 750. I was in charge of the wiring, lightning & avionics. Something i enjoy doing. Been looking at the TSI and hope to do the same as you guys one day. Can't wait to see the videos of the building process.
I don’t know enough about planes to make suggestions other than to say don’t worry about negative comments concerning this type of aircraft. My dad rebuilt a wrecked plane back in the 60’s. He was an airplane mechanic during WWII so he had good knowledge and he had the assistance of one of the most respected mechanics in the area. He had a lot of fun with the project and I enjoyed flying with him as a child. I’m sure you guys will enjoy the process.
Enjoy the build and be in the moment. Every day I find myself being happier with my Sling TSi, N141D. The Sling TSi is a wonderful plane, great choice!
I'm excited to see what you guys come up with, I have no input but just love following this awesome channel and look forward to watching for many years to come😊
I am the owner of Sling Tsi - built in Torrance in 2024 also quick build - great experience overall but definitely some tips to pass on. Easy one is to get Rosen sunshades before you fly cross country. We are based in Florida so a lot of XC trips back and forth CA to FL
12:55 Tip from a friend of ours: Y’all should take a serious look at getting a collapsible fuel bladder for shuttling gas to and from the plane away from home. Super handy if you decide to top off with mogas and it can handle Ethanol fuel. Take a crew car to the gas station and fill up the bladder, empty it into the plane, and then collapse the bladder and put it in the cargo area.
For low wing planes I love the paint schemes along the fuselage mimiking the airflow over the wings and swinging upwards the vertical stabilizer.
Great to see you both providing feedback in this episode. Congrats on your new "GA" project, and wonderful to see how passionate the both of you are to work together to build your new personal plane. I also enjoyed how the both of you explained the freedom that this type of build provides with the flexibility for upgrades & maintenance along with your own personal specifications and design... Curios to know what other Experimental Aircraft (e.g: Vans RV, Lancair Mako, etc...) you both looked at, and how you ultimately chose to decide to go with Sling Aircraft?
Blue and charcoal with a pretty mix!!!!! Alot of metal flake!!!!!! Can not wait to see how this turns out!!!!! GOOG LUCK!!!!!!!
Stoked for your sling! The school I teach at in Idaho has two sling NGT’s, the second of which I got to go down to KTOA and pick up. Got to meet the guys, and see the whole process and it is absolutely amazing what they’re doing for aviation. One thing I will say is that running the engine by ECU is definitely different. Sometimes it can throw some strange errors and cautions at you, especially in the early hours of breaking it in. Would love to see your TSI make it to Boise and up into our mountains soon!!
Parker Colorado, the ballistic recovery parachute works! couple years ago some kind of single engine plane needed use of a rescue parachute system heading into centennial airport. it works! plane floated down next to cherry creek reservoir no one injured and yes great option to have on a single engine for sure. ty 101 keep up the good work and videos
That was actually a midair. The other airplane was able to land. The Cirrus pilot would not have survived without the chute.
I am excited for you guys. Best Wishes and blue skies, and oh, keep the key chain pointed to the floorboard!
Thanks the update guys! Love yall
13:38 As someone who put an initial deposit on a Sling HW in August 2022 and still waiting, I can say having a TSI kit on a ship in less than 6 months is impressive.
Suggestion: check with your airport before trying to self-fuel mogas on the field. Mine made me jump through a ton of hoops to have it happen. That said, if the airport receives public funding, they can't prohibit you from self-fueling with mogas. But you do have to follow their rules. AOPA has a great document on the rules around it. I'd share the link here but pretty sure YT would kill the comment.
See also FAA Compliance Order 5190.6b Section 11
Another suggestion: Cirrus really has done their homework on when to deploy and not deploy the parachute. Some of those courses are available to non-cirrus pilots. Check them out. They're really good.
I am, right now, looking at building an airplane. I have 3 candidates: Sling TSI, TL Sparker, RV916 (which is an RV9 with a rotax 916). I'm leaning towards the TL.
For paint, the first 3 images you showed for ideas were amazing. The blue of the first one with the theme of the second one and add silver from the third and you’ll have a winner!
Hell yeah. Good for you. Long range tanks are going to be well used by you both!
Great information guys!!!
Aerox has a canine oxygen mask. You need a constant flow system. Also depends on the dog, if they are comfortable with something on their face. Worth a look to see if it is something that may work for you.
You chose wisely. I own a ‘72 Beech Musketeer, and had the opportunity to fly a Sling not too long ago and was immensely impressed by it. Just a joy to fly. That HW is a lovely aircraft, but no surprise you chose the TSi. It’s pretty special.
$$$$$$ is why. For $330,000 & $100,000 in incidentals, you get a new aircraft that meets mission requirements. Or get a new 182 or a Cirrus for 3 times that much....
A sling is no Cirrus or C182 thus the difference in the price. ask me how I know……
@@josbren8943 How do you know?
My wife and I started building our Velocity XL-RG in our garage and eventually at the airport. It took 15 years to build and we've been flying it ten years now. Your story sounds parallel. It sounds like you have figured it out. My one piece of advice is do not deviate from the plan. Our build took extra long because we "could make it better". Every time we did, it took an exorbitant amount of time. We started building when our model when it was new so we got to learn while the factory was learning. The first flight is something to remember. I think it was a Lockheed test pilot once said "when I taxied onto the runway and realized I'm the only thing in this airplane that has flown before". I remember every detail of my first flight like it was yesterday and it was ten years ago. As for your paint scheme goes...good luck. We went though 15 iterations and finally landed on something we could "live with".
Bottom line, I can't think of any more rewarding experience. When we flew over the Ripon coming into Oshkosh our first time in an airplane we built is an experience that will stay with you for the rest of your life.
Very excited to see the build, AND what yall do with the plane afterwards, the adventures are going to be amazing 👊👊👊
Hi you two, how exciting this new venture of yours is going to be especially as you are in the US, and under their rules.
I built the first four seater Jabiru J430 ( stol wings), aircraft in the U.K. and being U.K. registered it can’t be flown IMC/IR so all the other good things that you talked about in your last video, night etc, we can’t do.
Please double check that should you fly to the U.K. your N registration allows you to fly IR here.
Re paint, it all equals weight, not the friend of light aircraft.
Finally mine was a quick build same time as yours and it took nine months from receipt. I sincerely hope that your governing body will be more kind to you than ours was, but admittedly it was the first of type.
Good luck and have great fun in building and flying.
Mike Record. G-RDCO
Awesome, having Chelsea with more screen time and lending her A&P expertise in the upcoming build!! So looking forward to the series! Love you guys!! Best aviation channel on TH-cam!!
Hello Josh and Chelsea,
I’m 15 and a sophomore in High school. I live in Tucson AZ and go to flight school based out of KAVQ (Marana Regional) and I have≈65 flight hours, and I have all my PPL requirements. I mainly fly a PA-28/181 ArcherII but I also have time in C-172’s and C-182. I am just waiting to turn 17 to get my license. I am apart of a program called SATA(Southern Arizona Teen Aviation) and we are building a VANS RV-12is with a Rotax 912-is. I have plenty of work hours on the rotax engine, there awesome. Our plane has DYION avionics, and with that being said, I would recommend that do some research when looking at parts/ upgrades, don’t just go for the name brand. Also the instructions are there for a reason, and sometimes you need to just walk away and come back with fresh eyes. I also am going to have a chance to go to OSH-25 and I hope I can meet both of you!!Until then safe flying.
Regarding your paint scheme; Have you considered doing a vinyl wrap like they're doing on cars/trucks for business owners? Very durable and if you get bored, or when it starts getting a little faded, it's easily changed for a fraction of a paint job. Just peel and stick. All you need is a base color painted. I know for a fact they're doing them on aircraft. GOOD LUCK!
So stoked for you guys! Can’t wait to follow along on the build and future flights of course. 😉
Chelsea and Josh. Congrats on your engagement, and your exciting big project news!
Thank you for rescuing that cute pup (we have 6 rescues in our home, plus a rescue foster). They are the best, and bring so much joy! A simple O2 crate may be the answer for the pup at high alt. Ask your vet about how they set up an O2 enclosure in their practice. I'm sure you could dig up similar that would fit in back seat.
I imagine we may see you here in South Mississippi in the near future at South Mississippi Light Aircraft in Lucedale, MS. Ronnie Smith and son Morris are the Rotax gurus, and teach the Rotax maint courses at all levels. Just get on their schedule early, you can easily complete their owner level, and line maint level courses in one 4-5 day visit. They both live on there golf course smooth 3000 ft turf strip, MS22.
Ballistic recovery system - we just replaced our BRS system in our flight school's Flight Design CTSW with a Junkers Chute system. This was done for a number of reasons, but primarily due to the lengthy (3 mos+) for chute inspect/repack turn around, and because the Junkers system is a soft pack system, and can be changed out in 1-2 days. I know 6 years seems like a long time, but it comes quickly. The Junkers Co. will send you a certified, inspected, repacked chute in advance of yours expiring, you simply swap yours out, return your out of date chute, and receive a core charge refund when they receive your chute. This is a huge advantage, and they are half the cost for that inspection compared to BRS. This is especially important for schools and busy traveller's like yourselves. Taking your plane off line for a day vs. 3-4 months... You should ask these questions of BRS, Sling, and Junkers.
The confusion over Exp vs Part 23, vs. S-LSA, vs E-LSA... have so many rumors flying... everyone just believes what's on the internet. It's kind of like the term "PPL" that I hear so often. There is no such thing... There is a Private Pilot Certificate so I guess PPC would be legit. Licenses expire, Certificates do not. The requirements to exercise that certificate expire (medical, BFR, currency, ) expire, but not the certificate itself.
Well many of your commenter's "no night, no ifr" info may be coming from the possibility that light sport pilots can't fly at night, or ifr, or above 10,000 feet, and a number of other restrictions (that can be removed via endorsements).
But, each Special Light Sport Aircraft "S-LSA" (which are only the factory built ones) airworthiness certificate (again not a "license") comes with an "Operating Limitations for Light Sport Aircraft Letter (Aircraft/Gyroplane/etc). That letter is specific to the Make, Model, Serial, and Tail number of the aircraft listed on the AW cert. That document will specify any limitations or required equipment to operate in specific conditions like night VFR, or IFR.
In our particular case, our limitations letters state if the aircraft is equipped per 91.205, it is authorized for both night and IFR flight. Just because the plane can, the limitation on a light sport PILOTS certificate restrictions Sport Pilot to Day VFR operations.
There are plenty of IFR equipped Lancair, Glassair, RV, Falco, Epic, aircraft flying every day. Ask Mike Patey, for example?
If you get down this way, please consider stopping in at 5R2, Ocean Springs MS. On the east edge of a very unique and historic city. Founded in 1699, a walkable, bikeable, golf cart friendly town, on the white sands of the Gulf. Full of art, food, boutique hotels, and photographic beauty. You would both love it here, and I would be glad to help you plan a visit. Just call the number for 5R2 in Foreflight, speak to our airport owner, get my number, Mark S. I'm certain we could find you a courtesy car/truck, and recs on all the fun places to stay, eat, and visit.
I look forward to your call.
So excited for you both & to vicariously follow along with your build process. The Sling Tsi looks like an awesome aircraft for you & cant wait to see it come together. If I had the time i would LOVE to build something like that. Awesome.
I am an experimental (Zenith) builder/owner/flyer and I will tell you that you are going to enjoy the experience and will probably say you wish you had done it sooner. The biggest shock will probably be the cost of insurance, experimental (especially from companies not located in the USA) planes tend to be higher than certificated…
You two are great aviation professionals and provide great knowledge and insight for GA pilots. That said, I would ask (or maybe get legal advice on this) about the use of an experimental aircraft that becomes part of your filming and presentation of monetized videos through TH-cam. You point out that as long as the plane is 'not for hire' you are OK, however since the equipment is used and becomes integral to the production of your videos from which you (or both of you) receive some kind of compensation via monetization, the argument can be made that the airplane was used for commercial purposes. Not trying to 'step in it' with you but I would suggest consultation with legal counsel if not already done so.
Keep flying you two as I always like to see fellow pilots promote safety and innovation in the GA world.
So much misinformation and lack of information regarding the experimental aviation world. You did a good job in informing and dispelling. Look forward to your build videos. Cheers from Winnipeg.
Can't wait to see the build Videos ! Hope yaw are doing well !
Built a cobra replica and while not an aircraft, working with metal and composites is the same either way. You guys will do great and enjoy the process with a sense of satisfaction you will not get otherwise! Finishing up my PPL and about to sit for my check ride :)
Nice one you two and what a day with the weather. thats the sort of weather where you go to the hanger and build a homebuild. looking forward to some surprises
This is awesome. Can't wait to see your build footage
Reference glide range: When you double the diameter of your glide circle, you quadruple the area.
Something to think about on the paint on the plane is the amount of abuse the paint will endure. I never understood why everyone paints the darker colors on top and the white underneath. If I could afford a paint job it would be lighter to darker complimentary colors. White on top because it won’t get as hot in the direct sunlight and depending on how the rotax is exhausted under the plane I’d do the dark colors underneath. It’s going to take the most abuse with debris being kicked up and with exhaust blow back. Just my two cents on the matter….good luck and looking forward to the build.
The resale of a kit aircraft may also depend on the reputation of the builder. Much the same as a custom built car, the build from a well known builder is known to sell for more and to depreciate less or even increase in value. A recent crash of a Vans seems to be the fault of the owner / pilot not installing the updated door latch and the door opening while in flight. Certified aircraft would be forced to have the updated latch installed. The installation of such items in an experimental aircraft are often optional.
A Europa in 2002. Tools and Techniques. Don't stop, but make sure you don't forget to take time to enjoy what you are doing. It is fun and the great thing is you can work on all when it is said and done
**All the airframe **.
Also triple check everything to make sure everything was shipped
Did mine (alone) between March 2017 to October 2019. Had help to install wings and tailcone. Expect (assuming you build alone) to spend a LOT of money on almost never used, but expensive tooling (aircraft scales, prop balancer) and annual maintenance items (carb balancer [assuming not injected], compression differential), etc.. Plus standard build items: gloves, chemicals, drills and bits (drill press and hand drill -- electric and hand) and all the extension accessories, plus drivers and extensions, ratchets, safety wire and pliers, and clecos, and more clecos, and pliers, and tape (electric, duct, masking, etc.) and butcher paper and coax cutters and crimpers and accessories (plus the coax [often RG400]) and flashlites and shop llights and paint guns and tyvex and paint and MEK (lots of MEK) and alcohol and greases and oils and oil filter cutters and wrenches and jacks and stands and TALC and, and, and, and ,,,,,, {{ and don't forget: T I M E and commitment }}....
Have fun and keep good spirits and forward thinking and wishes of blue skies and tailwinds ....
Oh, and be ready for Service Bulletins ---- lots of service bulletins (at this moment, I'm sure you've heard the Rotax latest on the generators and on the defective blocks/case and gear box {PSRU} housings. And don't forget that Rotax abhors the use of 100LL [says to use it as last resort]. Besides doubling frequency of spark plug and oil changes, the PSRU also needs to be MAJORed every 600 hours -- by a certified shop -- if you use 100LL {they allow you to go to TBO if you go strictly with 0-ethanol 0-lead MoGas or UL94 or G1000} --- absorb the contents of the Rotax MX Manual -- HEAVY (as well as the LINE and Ops MX manuals).
If you are buying a plane (or boat, atv, RV, etc.) for resale value, then you aren't shopping for the right reasons. These are things you buy for your specific purpose and the value is in the experiences and time spent using it. Take as good of care of it as you can and what you get out of it when you are ready to move on is what you get. Not everything in life is about the dough.
I have owned my Beachcraft P - 35 Bonanza for 35 years… I am a CFII and currently do a fair amount of IFR flying. In those 35 years, avionics have changed dramatically. When I started out, King Avionics were the best. That has transitioned and I now feel that Garmin is clearly the market leader. I have equipped my Bonanza with a Garmin GFC 500 auto pilot, (3axis) and electric trim. I also have GTN 750 and 650 TXI, Garmin GTX345 transponder and GMA 350 Audio panel. I also have a G500 MFD/PFD. Great functionality with the G500 autopilot! I have a King KTA 870 active TCAS. I would recommend all of the above but would opt for the active Garmin traffic TCAS and either a G500txi or G3X PFD/MFD. I would recommend CIES fuel sensors for fuel gauge sensors and LED lights and strobes.
When you start your build make sure you document everything with photos it realy helps with resale value way down the road if possible buyers can look at photos of the whole process vs a logbook entry.
I am so excited for this update!!!!
Don’t be afraid to ask for help, and measure twice cut once, have fun. Steve. 👍😀
I personally would do a medium to dark navy blue main color with gold or bronze stripes. But just my personal thing. 🙂 Have fun participating in the build and customization.
You guys are the best! Looking forward to your adventure.
Totally do a design contest, and maybe the prize is a Sling sponsored trip to the factory for a tour and flight! I'd definitely be interested in entering that! Have some designs floating around in my head.
I'm looking forward to your build. Experimental aircraft was my dream but the insurance cost dissuaded me. A 172D in my hangar now and your videos, along with Chris Palmers have inspired me on what is possible with a cessna. In the interim, I'll be building vicariously through you!
I have been following your adventures for a long time Josh - and I am delighted to have Chelse (Sorry if I got that wrong, autocorrect had 3 options for your name and I don't know which you use) joining you on these adventures. It has been enjoyable to see your videography skills develop over time. I am severely impatient to see the first video in your TSI.
As a viewer, I have a couple things that would add interest: time-lapse videos of your longer flights with some of the ATC comms over-dubbed, and an external camera toward the bottom rear of the airplane so that we can see exactly how smoothly you spread the butter on your landings (plus it would offer some pretty cool shots of terrain while in flight). Oh, and how about an external 360 camera that the viewer can point in any direction?
Anyway, it is a privilege to join you on your flights, and I thank you sincerely for bringing us along on your life journey.
Following winds and clear skies, you two!
Here are 4 lessons I can share from building my slowbuild RV-8 in Quebec, Canada since 2015:
1) This project must be amongst your top 3 priorities in your life, and for a long time. Life got in the way of my project in the form of working a full time job and be a part time flight instructor. Now working toward ATPL and Senior CFI rating, my project is being delayed further more...
2) Your homebuilt project needs to be very close to your home. It is those regular 30 min to 2 hours sessions many times a week than will make your project progress the most. I moved my project too early to the airport hangar thinking it would be beneficial. When my project was 5 minutes from home, I could put lots of hours to it. Now at the airport, I have to drive 45 minutes to get to my project and 45 minutes back home. Therefore, most week nights, especially in the Canadian winter, I don't go to the airport to work on my project. My project is suffering from the lack of regular and constant work...
3) Your workshop must be extremely well organized, both for tools and parts/hardware storage. Leisure time is a premium, and loosing time looking for tools and parts in your shop is killing your productivity. Again, if you have only 1 hours in an evening to work on your project, and your loose 30 minutes to find a tool or any hardware, you are not productive. Since I moved to my new airport hangar, I didn't take the time to organize the 'shop'. I am wasting so much time looking for what I need to build my airplane, it is frustrating.
4) Avoid trying to customize the aircraft too much. Being an engineer, I tend to want to redesign everything, hence adding unnecessary work to my airplane. Keep it simple !
Have fun with the building process. It is very educative and rewarding.
I Totally recommend doing inventory and making sure that you have all the parts