The Upcoming Ban List for the One Piece TCG
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Welcome to today's video discussing the upcoming ban list and what cards we could possibly see in it!
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Apparently since recording this, a lot of people want 8c green captain kid banned lol green wasn't doing anything for so long. I guess since BY luffy might get nerfed if gecko goes then 8c kid is the next best way to have high power leader essentially? I get smoker uses it very well, we'll see if it gets hit or not, who knows. This is coming from a biased green player who got destroyed for months by BY luffy and lucci lol Also sorry for the quiet audio for the quick section talking about the green cards. But again if anything green got hit I'd think it'd be one of those 3 cards.
Silly to want 8c Kid gone... R/P Luffy (Kid + Newgate) is also 9K leader btw
Yeah idk, I haven’t tested smoker too much or even played against it much to have too many thoughts on how much of a problem 8c kid is. Apparently it’s very strong in that deck but like green hasn’t done much like at all to warrant a ban on it lol again this is just from what I’ve seen people talking about online in regards to cards to ban, not saying I agree with it.
Green and purple are the last color that should get banned lol
As someone who is still somewhat new to the OPTCG, but with a background from other TCGs, I think seeing some of these opinions is weird.
1. Gum-Gum Giant is just right out stupid, sure it "costs" 2 DON cards, but at the late game that isn´t even a real cost and most of the purple leaders just ramp right back, there is no real drawback to that card at all imo.
2. Gecko Moira is good, but not that broken. In my experience playing against BY Luffy, it is the 5 cost Sabo you can loop, that is broken. Yes Gecko enables it, but I believe other cards are the problem in that Deck. They should ban 5 cost Sabo and see what happens, but that will never happen.
3. Blackbeard is just awful Leader design, taking a whole game mechanic out of the match is never fun for the opponent and sets examples for bad play patterns, in MTG other cards get banned all the timed for this reason. His ability even works around his cards, so they have an on play effect, without saying its an on play effect ffs...
4. Blue teach needs to go, same reason as Gum-Gum giant, makes a drawback (putting a card on top of deck) into a plus for the Doffy.
Of course these are just opinions of a new player, but thats how I see it and I can be totally wrong about it. :)
Love seeing the detailed explanation for your opinions on these, I’m glad there’s a lot of discussion going on from people both new and experience in the game. And that’s the point we can all be totally wrong because we don’t have the information the people making the game have haha what card game did you play before one piece? And also with Blackbeard specifically I never liked the ability and worry that without blue doffy that set 10 will be JUST Blackbeard pretty much. All depends on what they actually hit and when it goes into effect. And yeah gecko Moria was super busted before but compared to new and upcoming sets it’s not a major deal to keep him in the game imo. Glad to have rational and well explained conversations about this!
@@StrawHatPecan I play/played way too many TCGS in the past, but mainly Force of Will, MTG, Pokemon, Digimon, Lorcana and Yu-Gi-Oh!.
I personally don´t understand what they thought, when they designed Blackbeard. He is restricting the game around him from his design and they have to now always consider him and his support for new cards.
For example in Force of Will we had Rulers (basically Leaders) and there was one that got value by collecting counters for free every turn and could cash them in anytime, to for example negate a card an opponent played and warped the playing field around him the minute he was released.
That card got nearly instantly banned as soon as it hit the west, because it promoted a unfun play pattern.
Same incidents happened in MTG before and the solution was always to ban the card, because it restricts card design so heavily.
If gecko enables the loop then IT is the problem. The sabo is not the problem. It's a 1 turn effect that without gecko you can only use as many times as you have sabos to play. Geck just let's you reuse 1 single sabo over and over and over
@ But that is the wrong mindset in my opinion. Because with that reasoning you basically say "anything that revives is bad for the game".
That would be the same as if we would ban every creature in MTG that can reanimate from the graveyard, just because one creature gets abused by getting reanimated.
Why should they limit such an effect on that scale, instead of fixing the card effects that get looped?
I get that OPTCG works different than MTG but I hope its clear what I mean.
My only problem with Gecko is that he is a 9k attacker for 8 that brings 2 bodies back, if he would be like 6k he wouldn´t be that broken.
Sadly I don't think Enel is gonna go unless Bandai releases one specific card that completely breaks him like how Black Maria broke RP Law, even though Enel has a very big design issue in which he has such a good generic ability that almost every single good yellow support eventually ends up going to him. As such, it leads to people not thinking it's worth running any other yellow leader than Enel and it's like Bandai doesn't want to admit it
A lot of these just need to be leader locked like gecko, 4 drop Rebecca, law maybe ban yeah.
No way Moria gets banned. If they ban Moria basically all non-teach black decks will become unviable. No BY, Lucci or Smoker. Most Usopp lists don't even run it. It should've been hit like 3 sets ago and now power creep has made it more bearable (except in BY)
Yeah exactly what I’m saying if you told me in set 8 Moria getting hit I understand but now like you said usopp doesn’t use it, obviously Blackbeard doesn’t so I don’t think there’s a need to. Just a lot of people always bring it up when talks of a ban comes around. Like I said power creep is a big thing in the next few sets and Moria isn’t as bad of a problem.
@ 100%, you're right on the money
Well if they ban gum gum giant Luffy op05 is cooked
2:19-3:20 theres an audio error, the levels get really low. Still listenable but I have to crank the volume
I know I apologize, I mentioned it in the pinned comment. I simply had the rubbed over audio on the wrong track in my editing software which was lower than the rest. I kinda go over my brief thoughts on green in the pinned comment as well. I doubt green gets hit but those 3 cards are what people keep mentioning with green. 8c kid and in turn stuff that protects him, but again I don’t think it needs to get hit
Law needs an errata to return 1 other character to use his effect so he can't return himself constantly, and more decks need to run cards to get 2 drop teach off the board. These are 100% the cards that are the issue.
Agreed. Very well put
They won't errata. They'll ban
I want rebecca out and i could possibly deal with moria limited as much as i hate enel i think he might stick especially with the new one in eb02
enel is lack luster even with new support can tell by just the japan placing
Yep like I said he’s kinda just around but never top of the list but generally people dislike the deck lol I doubt he gets hit but felt like I had to talk about him since so many people mention him every time ban lists come around. I even thought the new 10c was gonna break the deck but it’s still not anything crazy, just annoying for some folk
Jp players don't know how to play Enel except the guy that beat bb
Gecko moria is a must ban
Both of Blacks best leaders don't even use him, being teach and usopp. Why ban moria now? Ptsd?
Ban Enel, ban the baby Sabo for BY Luffy, limit Jinbe or Law to 2, limit gum gum to 2 and maybe erata Gecko to make it Thriller Bark exclusive or black targets only. That's my wants.
Limits are stupid.
Ban or don't ban.
Banning the baby Sabo would be too funny, would love to see that happen tho
The only hit that makes sense is blue doffy leader
No
Doffy, Jesus burgess and gum gum giant
@ThatTCG purple isn't a big problem deck in the east. It's only a problem in gp luffy and that just came out. Hitting burgess would kill the whole blackbeard deck.
Doffy, gum gum giant and jesus burgess or the 4c bb event.
3 easy bans
Lol Burgess is the easiest card to remove from play.
I don't Enel, Giant or Rayleigh will get hit. I think the only good candidates are 4C Bouncer Law and Gecko or Rebecca. Hit blue and black.
Yeah I agree on bounce law I think it’s just too much without allowing the opponent to properly interact with it. And yeah gecko been a target for awhile lol I just wonder because a lot of the newer black decks don’t seem to care about Moria so will it even need to be hit? I’d still like to see it go honestly
Wow. Jinbe. Really?
Possibly, just saying it’s one of strong key pieces for blue doffy like I explain in the video if they don’t directly ban the leader they might go for one of the pieces. I’d rather see the bounce law go personally, like I explain the lack of interaction potential when you can continue to bounce the law back to your hand so your opponent can’t interact with the card except for hand destruction cards can be rough. If not neither of those cards maybe the 2c Blackbeard which I forgot to mention. What would you do to nerf Blue Doffy past banning the leader?
Just ban law.
@@StrawHatPecan besides banning jinbe means bannin more extra bodies cards like luffy-taro.
You wanna ban jinbe? Ban rob lucchi
@@StrawHatPecan they tried to nerf Law with the "put one of your character in your hand" condition, but they made the card really strong. I know it is not what bandai does, but i think it should receive an errata and delete that condition.
If they just ban jinbe, or law or boa, they´ll destroy the deck and any possility for any blue deck to compete on any nearly meta.
@@Tuturial464 I agree, people don´t realize that blue doesnt have mid and late game tools, Jinbe gives you the best early game of the current meta? YES, but in exchange you have nothing in the pool of card to build any other kind of strategy.