Caught you on Tone Talk with Dave Freedman. Happy to see you schmoozing with a guy who really seem to want to see and help you take off with your amp builds. So cool he actually watches you channel. Love it!
Wow, great video. I have a 65 Deluxe Reverb reissue from 1996 with the exact same problems. Really loud hiss and crackle on the reverb knob. Just dropped it off with an amp tech, but this video at least makes me feel that a fix is within reach. Thank you! I learned something new today.
I wish that I knew ( what you know ) about: These-particular amp's = my all time Favorite amplifier ever made. Great content. Always enjoyable, and Interesting.
Thanks for this, Lyle! I was able to get my Princeton clone (Clark Kanee) as quiet as my noisy house circuitry (50's house with more recent dimmer switches everywhere) will allow by hot swapping in preamp tubes while I had a dB meter app going on my phone in front of the amp.
Thanks for making this video. I kept getting told that noise was normal in my 65 re issue. Soon as I get my stuff out of storage I'll contact you about bullet proofing it.
Interesting. A PR build I did from of an Ao29 with all new components had the same exact issue with the reverb. Sounds great till turned up to 6 or so. Then a bit of hum. Nothing I did fixed it. I didn’t figure it could be the brand new MOD tank!
I wish I lived near enough to get my Deluxe Reverb Reissue to you! I’m in UK. Have some Ok local techs near me but no way they take the same care over their with or have the level of expertise you do
Hello Psionic Audio. What would you do in my situation? I bought a Carmen Ghia that kept buzzing and humming uncontrollably, and sound cut in and out. The one they sent as a replacement had a volume knob that wouldnt shut off too. Never experienced issues with any tube amp or brand like this, and was wondering if its even worth the 6 month turnaround wait for me in Ontario 🇨🇦 here. Thanks for all the great learning! 👍 MJ
Great stuff...I wish you were in Montreal. I have a Blues Jr. III thats working fine, but it's beeen used quite heavily and I'm sure would benifit from your mods and maintenence. I'm using preferred series 7189 tubes that can handle more juice, but cooling the bias seems like a good idea. I put a Cannabis Rex speaker in it and I think sound is overall way better. In your opinion is that a good speaker choice for that amp?
I have a PRRI as well, and have been having it cut to a way lower volume and will usually mostly come back in a bit. I took off the back and turned the amp on and notices that V4 is glowing a lot more than the other preamp tubes... i'm thinking maybe that is the problem? Thank you!! Great video btw!
Thanks, I love watching all your videos on amps. I just had a question about the hot rod amps, is it worth it at all to swap out the little metal feet for rubber ones? Would it help with vibration and maybe preserve the amp a bit longer? Apologies if this is a stupid question.. thanks again!
So can you dime the volume when using the reverb XFMR to 8 ohm speaker (whilst seeking OD & distortion) with no worries concerning the main output to ground (?) and also is there a safe way to route the rev. out to low level in with some sort of simple/easy impedance matching (if necessary) also for chasing distortion 😵💫(?) (Thanx in advance) 🥸
I have a re-issue fender Deville 4 10 in speakers sounds like dust really static then blew a fuse should I take it to a shop or just replace the fuse and do nothing but blow out the cab with my air compressor
I used to have a DRRI '65 and when I complained about the always existing hum (which was pretty loud when using tremolo and reverb) everybody told me it's completely normal! So it wasn't?
I’m thinking about buying a new 65 DRRI. Fender offers a 64 Custom Deluxe Reverb for twice as much. Does it sound that much better? If I go with a 65, can you recommend a tech in SoCal to replace bad stock components?
I’m having a very similar issue with the reverb on my 94’ Twin. Was there a particular reason WHY the tank went bad on this one? Any apparent damage? Would a tank be fixable or should one just attempt a swap?
Any insight on why the more drive channel on a 1997 hot rod deluxe cuts in and out, I replaced all the filter caps, replaced and raised the 5 watt resistors, and changed the plate resisters as well as the zenors.
@@PsionicAudio I've had one bad relay in hundreds of these amps. Unfortunately it was pretty early in my career, so I assumed it was common and order like 25 relays. Lol.
@@BradsGuitarGarage unfortunately for me as mostly a hifi repair guy, lots of audio switching was done in 80's hifi via the switches directly instead of with miniature relays being operated by the switches. Usually it's much easier to find a replacement relay with the correct footprint and coil specs than it is to find a replacement fimor, or dismantle and clean, a 40 year old switch that is directly handing the analog switching......but in the 90's, many manufacturers switched to using relays.
I'm here searching for why I'm only getting crackling and scratchy string noise from my DSL40CR. Anybody know what it could be? All the tube's seem perfectly fine, but I am new to this game, so I'm not 100 percent sure.
@@Hubip when I strum the strings with the guitar plugged in, some noise from the strings is making it through, it's just very scratchy and patchy sounding. Like it's cutting in and out harshly.
I have a brand new princeton, second one actually. First one had a rattle on low notes at reasonable volume, second one does it too but the warranty tech doesn’t hear it. It’s a 1200 paper weight at this point. Should I start replacing tubes since that is what the tech said is common issue with new amps But do I replace them all?
Hey Lyle, I'm hoping you can help me understand an issue I'm having with my Deluxe reverb after making a really idiotic mistake with it. I sometimes use a Marshall head into the speaker of the Deluxe (just using the combo as a cabinet, deluxe reverb stays off.), and accidentally grabbed the wrong cable while running late to a gig and mindlessly plugged the speaker out of the Marshall into the speaker out of the Deluxe Reverb... I noticed no sound and turned the amp off, it way on for maybe 30 seconds to a minute tops before I realized what I had done. The Marshall made it through the gig and sounds fine... but I just got back home and plugged the Deluxe Reverb in, and it's sputtering and signal is cutting in and out. Do you know what issues I could have caused by doing this? I plan to call my tech about it soon, but right now am just so embarrassed and defeated by making such a mindless and stupid mistake. :/
I’m sorry dude. The good news is anything you killed is easily replaceable. The bad news is you almost certainly hurt something in the process. Your tech can find out what.
@@PsionicAudio thanks for the reply Lyle. The amp seems to be working fine now somehow.. could those symptoms be from using the amp after it being cold in the car? Maybe chilly tubes not happy to heat up quickly, or a stiff power cable? I’ll keep an eye on it and contact my tech as well. I really appreciate your time.
What Hum??? Your audio is very, very poor for this kind of demo - And YES I have my PC volume at full bore. :-( The first few minutes are useful to know after that there isn't much of practical use for an amp owner... well of my limited knowledge anyway.. The reverb driver trick: Input is actually the reverb Output... thus it can be hooked up to a 8ohm speaker... for low output practice, hmmm... Well I guess that's handy to know without any explanation. Then there is the ability to plug your guitar directly into the reverb driver but with impedance issues... again no explanation. I guess that would have meant a much longer video but, maybe if you are bringing it up you should perhaps direct viewers to more info. When you arouse curiosity... people like answers.
The main point of the video is that you shouldn't hear any hum when all the knobs are turned down and nothing is plugged in (also when the knobs are turned up as well). He fixed the first issue by swapping out the preamp tube, so that was a simple fix for anyone to do themselves. The second issue was hum that occurs when the reverb volume is increased. It was audible in the video, but probably not as pronounced as you would notice in person and it's not easy to pick that up without placing that mic really close to the amp. There are many reasons that would cause this issue, in this case it ended up being a bad transducer in in the reverb tank. Unfortunately, you need a new tank to even test that but it's good to know that's where hum can come from. As far as the low output trick, you have the option to connect an 8 ohm impedance speaker up to that reverb tank output and play at lower volumes without reverb. Do not plug your guitar into that jack, that's for the speaker only. Your guitar plugs into the normal input jack on the front of the amp only. Of course, the main volume knob won't be used and only the reverb volume would be used if the goal is to play at a lower volume level.
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Sorry about the bit with black screen. Not sure what happened.
Exactly what owners need. Simple understanding of some issues. With simple solutions. Proves not everyone doesnt just wants money out of you. 👍👍
Caught you on Tone Talk with Dave Freedman. Happy to see you schmoozing with a guy who really seem to want to see and help you take off with your amp builds. So cool he actually watches you channel. Love it!
I appreciate you passing along your knowledge and techniques to us!
Seconded!
its quite dark in that reverb tank :)
I guess the battery on his flashlight failed at that point. LoL.
Yeah, sorry. I don’t know how that happened. First time in like 900 videos or whatever.
I enjoyed the moment of reflection…
@@PsionicAudio you are correct - has never happened before.
Dont be sorry Lyle, its all good fun !
Wow, great video. I have a 65 Deluxe Reverb reissue from 1996 with the exact same problems. Really loud hiss and crackle on the reverb knob. Just dropped it off with an amp tech, but this video at least makes me feel that a fix is within reach. Thank you! I learned something new today.
I wish that I knew ( what you know ) about: These-particular amp's = my all time Favorite amplifier ever made. Great content. Always enjoyable, and Interesting.
What a coincidence that it's also the best amp ever made too, ever...IMHO of course.
I have a Princeton reissue that needs the caps replaced. This video gave me the motivation to finally get off my butt and do it. Thanks...
Thanks for this, Lyle! I was able to get my Princeton clone (Clark Kanee) as quiet as my noisy house circuitry (50's house with more recent dimmer switches everywhere) will allow by hot swapping in preamp tubes while I had a dB meter app going on my phone in front of the amp.
It's also a good idea to make sure the tank is the right way round. The output of the tank doesn't like being near the transformer.
Thanks for making this video. I kept getting told that noise was normal in my 65 re issue. Soon as I get my stuff out of storage I'll contact you about bullet proofing it.
I recommend people with many amps and techs to get a Orange Divo VT1000 Tube valve tester. It has saved me lots of money and trips to the repair man.
Interesting. A PR build I did from of an Ao29 with all new components had the same exact issue with the reverb. Sounds great till turned up to 6 or so. Then a bit of hum. Nothing I did fixed it. I didn’t figure it could be the brand new MOD tank!
I wish I lived near enough to get my Deluxe Reverb Reissue to you! I’m in UK. Have some Ok local techs near me but no way they take the same care over their with or have the level of expertise you do
Hello Psionic Audio. What would you do in my situation? I bought a Carmen Ghia that kept buzzing and humming uncontrollably, and sound cut in and out. The one they sent as a replacement had a volume knob that wouldnt shut off too. Never experienced issues with any tube amp or brand like this, and was wondering if its even worth the 6 month turnaround wait for me in Ontario 🇨🇦 here. Thanks for all the great learning! 👍
MJ
Another great video, enjoyed it. Is it possible to use the reverb input and output as an effects loop?
No
Great stuff...I wish you were in Montreal. I have a Blues Jr. III thats working fine, but it's beeen used quite heavily and I'm sure would benifit from your mods and maintenence. I'm using preferred series 7189 tubes that can handle more juice, but cooling the bias seems like a good idea. I put a Cannabis Rex speaker in it and I think sound is overall way better. In your opinion is that a good speaker choice for that amp?
I have a PRRI as well, and have been having it cut to a way lower volume and will usually mostly come back in a bit. I took off the back and turned the amp on and notices that V4 is glowing a lot more than the other preamp tubes... i'm thinking maybe that is the problem? Thank you!! Great video btw!
Thanks, I love watching all your videos on amps. I just had a question about the hot rod amps, is it worth it at all to swap out the little metal feet for rubber ones? Would it help with vibration and maybe preserve the amp a bit longer? Apologies if this is a stupid question.. thanks again!
Never knew you could drive a speaker from the reverb out!
So can you dime the volume when using the reverb XFMR to 8 ohm speaker
(whilst seeking OD & distortion) with no worries concerning the main output to ground (?)
and also is there a safe way to route the rev. out to low level in with some sort of simple/easy
impedance matching (if necessary) also for chasing distortion 😵💫(?) (Thanx in advance) 🥸
I have a re-issue fender Deville 4 10 in speakers sounds like dust really static then blew a fuse should I take it to a shop or just replace the fuse and do nothing but blow out the cab with my air compressor
You said JJ tubes don't hold up well in combo amps. Why is that? What tubes do you reamend for combos?
Sensory deprivation reverb tank?
Looking forward to the follow up!
Great video! Did the tank replacement also eliminate the crackle in the reverb pot?
5:13 "Crackle and hum". Wasn't that a U2 album from the late '80s? LOL, sorry, couldn't resist ;-).
I used to have a DRRI '65 and when I complained about the always existing hum (which was pretty loud when using tremolo and reverb) everybody told me it's completely normal! So it wasn't?
What speaker would you suggest for a 70’s Princeton?
I’m thinking about buying a new 65 DRRI. Fender offers a 64 Custom Deluxe Reverb for twice as much. Does it sound that much better? If I go with a 65, can you recommend a tech in SoCal to replace bad stock components?
Thank you sir for great video helpful 👍
Peavey Classic 50 has barely any volume. Anything I can try at home?
What’s a reverb tack? Did it show in the video?
I’m having a very similar issue with the reverb on my 94’ Twin.
Was there a particular reason WHY the tank went bad on this one? Any apparent damage? Would a tank be fixable or should one just attempt a swap?
Does Fender make any reliable amp in 2022 and what lifespan do they have?
I have a 5E3 that tends to eat 6V6 power tubes. Is that common for this circuit? Thanks.
Can you place a light in the reverb tank? I didn’t see a thing.
Any insight on why the more drive channel on a 1997 hot rod deluxe cuts in and out, I replaced all the filter caps, replaced and raised the 5 watt resistors, and changed the plate resisters as well as the zenors.
Could be a damaged trace or just a dirty switch. Rarely (very rarely) a bad relay.
@@PsionicAudio I've had one bad relay in hundreds of these amps.
Unfortunately it was pretty early in my career, so I assumed it was common and order like 25 relays. Lol.
@@BradsGuitarGarage unfortunately for me as mostly a hifi repair guy, lots of audio switching was done in 80's hifi via the switches directly instead of with miniature relays being operated by the switches. Usually it's much easier to find a replacement relay with the correct footprint and coil specs than it is to find a replacement fimor, or dismantle and clean, a 40 year old switch that is directly handing the analog switching......but in the 90's, many manufacturers switched to using relays.
@@PsionicAudio changed the relays also
I'm here searching for why I'm only getting crackling and scratchy string noise from my DSL40CR. Anybody know what it could be? All the tube's seem perfectly fine, but I am new to this game, so I'm not 100 percent sure.
What do you mean with "string noise"?
@@Hubip when I strum the strings with the guitar plugged in, some noise from the strings is making it through, it's just very scratchy and patchy sounding. Like it's cutting in and out harshly.
When can I send my amp out to in order to heave it serviced by you?
Thank You
Thank you for doing these videos. As a owner of a few old amps. :)
The layout is so similar to the pro jr and blues jr… I wonder…
Beautiful. Ty.
Don't forget Princeton is single ended and will always have more floor noise than a push pull amp.
All Princetons from ’61 to today are push pull amps.
@@PsionicAudio yea you are right. I was thinking of tweed amps my bad.tjhank you
Those heater wire twists seem marginal at best. Literal penny pinching by Fender.
Anyone in these comments have a recommendation for speaker cab cables for a matchless? Mogami? Anything will do?
Any 18AWG speaker cable will do. Neutrik, Amphenol, or Switchcraft plugs.
I have a brand new princeton, second one actually. First one had a rattle on low notes at reasonable volume, second one does it too but the warranty tech doesn’t hear it. It’s a 1200 paper weight at this point. Should I start replacing tubes since that is what the tech said is common issue with new amps
But do I replace them all?
Make sure the cab/baffle screws are tight, but it’s probably the JJ 6V6s not the amp.
Thanks!
Cool info😎👍
Hey Lyle, I'm hoping you can help me understand an issue I'm having with my Deluxe reverb after making a really idiotic mistake with it.
I sometimes use a Marshall head into the speaker of the Deluxe (just using the combo as a cabinet, deluxe reverb stays off.), and accidentally grabbed the wrong cable while running late to a gig and mindlessly plugged the speaker out of the Marshall into the speaker out of the Deluxe Reverb... I noticed no sound and turned the amp off, it way on for maybe 30 seconds to a minute tops before I realized what I had done.
The Marshall made it through the gig and sounds fine... but I just got back home and plugged the Deluxe Reverb in, and it's sputtering and signal is cutting in and out. Do you know what issues I could have caused by doing this? I plan to call my tech about it soon, but right now am just so embarrassed and defeated by making such a mindless and stupid mistake. :/
I’m sorry dude. The good news is anything you killed is easily replaceable. The bad news is you almost certainly hurt something in the process. Your tech can find out what.
@@PsionicAudio thanks for the reply Lyle. The amp seems to be working fine now somehow.. could those symptoms be from using the amp after it being cold in the car? Maybe chilly tubes not happy to heat up quickly, or a stiff power cable?
I’ll keep an eye on it and contact my tech as well.
I really appreciate your time.
Tube shields necessary?
They're just as they're named. Shields . Just a bit of protection. Not necessary
(curious but chicken)
Nevermind, me dumb you literally posted that.
Liked and subbed
BOOM! first comment.
And gotta re-up it. Part of it disappeared...
@@PsionicAudio Meh, too hard. Leave it in and get back to work, mate!
What Hum??? Your audio is very, very poor for this kind of demo - And YES I have my PC volume at full bore. :-( The first few minutes are useful to know after that there isn't much of practical use for an amp owner... well of my limited knowledge anyway..
The reverb driver trick: Input is actually the reverb Output... thus it can be hooked up to a 8ohm speaker... for low output practice, hmmm... Well I guess that's handy to know without any explanation. Then there is the ability to plug your guitar directly into the reverb driver but with impedance issues... again no explanation.
I guess that would have meant a much longer video but, maybe if you are bringing it up you should perhaps direct viewers to more info. When you arouse curiosity... people like answers.
The main point of the video is that you shouldn't hear any hum when all the knobs are turned down and nothing is plugged in (also when the knobs are turned up as well). He fixed the first issue by swapping out the preamp tube, so that was a simple fix for anyone to do themselves. The second issue was hum that occurs when the reverb volume is increased. It was audible in the video, but probably not as pronounced as you would notice in person and it's not easy to pick that up without placing that mic really close to the amp. There are many reasons that would cause this issue, in this case it ended up being a bad transducer in in the reverb tank. Unfortunately, you need a new tank to even test that but it's good to know that's where hum can come from.
As far as the low output trick, you have the option to connect an 8 ohm impedance speaker up to that reverb tank output and play at lower volumes without reverb. Do not plug your guitar into that jack, that's for the speaker only. Your guitar plugs into the normal input jack on the front of the amp only. Of course, the main volume knob won't be used and only the reverb volume would be used if the goal is to play at a lower volume level.