Mga team owners may ari nang makalalaking company. Baka ito ginagawa nila ay base sa research nila. Maaring mahal n masyado magpatakbo ng PBA. Kaya di nila basta basta magawa improvements
Yeah kaya naging kakatawanan yung may height limit na import. Imagine sa europe at US mga 6'10 to 7 footer nila parang guard pa na mag laro samantala sa pilipinas 6'3 to 6'6 center na taga sceeen at low post lang alam lol
@@nestpaul356 tingin ko cultural perception na din to sa pinas. parang sa mga bata sino pinakamatangkad sa 5 player = center. di tulad sa ibang bansa kasi kahit matangkad may option sila pumili ng position na gusto nila o kaya maalam ang coach nila na dito sila sa position nato magaling. ilagay mo dito si lebron sa pinas panigurado sentro yan. 😂
One major reason sa current crisis ng PBA: na-realize na ng Pinoy kung gaano ka-global ang basketball, at kung gaano ka-archaic ang sistema ng sarili nating liga. Walang parity, walang teams na may culture & identity na nag-re-resonate sa tao (except Ginebra), lack of openness to international players. Ilan lang yan sa issue na dapat ayusin.
as a Ginebra fan tumigil na din ako manood PBA 2 yrs ago bukod pa doon ang baduy na nitong liga msyadong lumang style, hndi balanse teams at bulok ang sistema.
lack of openness ba talaga para sa international players o PBA na ang isa sa mga last option ng mga foreigner para maglaro sa pinas? andami kasing basketball league na mas malaki ang kikitain nila tulad ng CBA, euroleague, taiwan, japan at korea. mga iba ngang pinoy naglalaro sa ibang ibang bansa kaysa dito. 😂🤣
@@hachibei4914 sa tingin mo paano umabot sa ganung situation na last option na ang PBA kahit na ang laki ng headstart natin compared sa mga liga ng Korea & Japan?
@@jonPrs 3 nakikita kong bagay e. pera, competition at marketing. may mga players pa din na gustong imarket ang sarili nila para mapansin ng mga scouts para makasali sila sa ibang malaking liga dito kasi wala na yung hinahanap mong hype tulad ng dati nung mga 90s at 2000s kapag ang mag kalaban ginebra at magnolia rivalry. ngayon ang highlights nalang ng PBA suntukan di yung laro mismo.
@@hachibei4914 Agree ako dun sa lack of hype, yun yung effect ng pagiging predictable ng liga, walang sense abangan yung matchups kung sa unang tingin mo pa lang sa lineups may idea na kung sino maghaharap sa championship. No amount of marketing ang kukumbinsi sa 'yo na manood. Anyways, naalala mo yung Fil-Sham scandal? Looking back, dapat dun pa lang nag-start na mag-open for international players sa PBA, noong struggling pa yung basketball leagues ng Japan & Korea, (at nasa World Cup fever pa yung dalawang bansa so medyo sidelined ang basketball). Sayang din yung attempt nila dati na mag-add ng Asian imports, di na-sustain. Unfortunately, PBA refused to see the trend, di sumabay sa globalization, instead nag-stick sila sa 90s mindset for too long. Ngayon stable na yung mga Asian leagues (at sila na yung preference ng foreign players) samantalang PBA na ang nasa existential crisis.
big respect bro. I don't watch many Filipino channels because they are waaaay too optimistic and are afraid of constructive criticism that might offend a subset of people. you have the correct mindset in fixing the PBA, I hope they actually implement anything of what you said because it's all logically feasible.
PBA is like a non stop advertising for the brands there. ginebra, rain or shine? who tf wants to support a multimillion company’s basketball team? unlike sa NBA na per province or city ang mga nirerepresent nila and may sense of patriotism dahil sumusuporta sila sa city team nila. and skillwise and sa production, NBA is just more worth our time.
Vovov kasi kayo mag observe galing kasi sa pandemya , at ginebra lang naman talaga matao dahil nga pandemya syempee mahihirap lang fans kaya mas piliin. Alang nila manood sa bahay Dati pa naman ganyan sa ibang teams langaw na talaga HAHAHAHAHA gins lang nakakapuno Imagine phil arena na puno hehe
Tingnan mo ba naman bench minsan sa mg court mga players nakaupo sa monoblock na upuan tapos allstar game yung 3 point contest parang pina welding lang tapos skills challenge na 2000 yung format tapos mga team na dinmarunong mag market ng players nila sino pa ba manunuod diyan tapos mga trade na walang logic parang nag laro ka sa 2k24 tapos in off mo yung trade logix tapos lahat ng malalka kinuha mo my god boring na mpbl nalang talaga ang maayos na lig ngayon mas professional galawan dun kesa pba ginebra lang tinatap
Another San Miguel - Ginebra final looming. Sa NBA, mga dating bottomfeeders na Thunder at Twolves, ngayon contender na. Ang Blackwater and Terrafirma, 10 taon na sa PBA, kahit semis man lang wala pa rin.
Apart nung nagsemis blackwater 2018 kontra ginebra ii believe tama ka hindi rin masiyadong maganda image ng terrafirma unfortunately when it comes to records.
@@Abdulmalik7Sarip7Correction po, Rain or Shine ang nag semis against Ginebra talking about the Commissioner's Cup. Or siyempre, ang Manila Clasico nung Governors' Cup.
Wala na tayong magawa when it comes to pba eh, High Caliber Coach nga na si Coach Tab Baldwin na nagsabi Dapat 2 imports, di pinakingan, minasama pa. NBA all-star din na si Dwight Howard, di rin pinakinggan when it comes to height limit.
Kaya mas dinadayo ang MPBL in terms of gate attendance dahil nirerepresenta nila ang isang bayan. Dapat may identity ang isang club. Logic lang yan, makakalimutin ang average fan. Like Alaska is now converge. Ilang porsyento ang mga nakakakilala sa Alaska na Converge na pala ngayon ang team. Opinion ko lang po, na sana mag expand ang PBA into inter-city basketball clubs and franchise. That's how they can stay relevant.
Agree. Ang dream scenario talaga is merging ng PBA tsaka MPBL. Teams na may cities or province na nirerepresent tapos yung sponsors included sa team name or sa jerseys. Parang sa Euroleague. Just imagine these hypothetical team names: Manila Brgy. Ginebra Rizal Sta. Lucia Makati Ayala
The last player you can consider as a "superstar" is Junemar Fajardo. Siguro pwede din si Scottie Thompson pero debatable pa. The rest, basketball player lang. Ngayon ang issue sa NBA, sino ang next face of NBA. LeBron, Steph, and KD are getting older. Ngayon hinahanap nila sa pool of superstar kung sino pwede maging face ng NBA. Luka, Ant, Shai, JT, Giannis, Jokic, D.Book, kahit si Wemby, gusto igroom ng NBA para kahit magretire na si LeBron, Steph, and KD, hindi mawawala yung attention ng tao sa NBA.
Kahit per team lang sana may franchise player Yun ang problema eh Kahit ba konting teams lang nanalo, atleast may franchise player kada team tapos competitive lahat ng roster tatauhin pa din yan kahit papano Superteam nga ang isang team sino ang franchise player sa kanila? Sino yung face ng team na yun? Para at least diba kikita sila kasi bibili yung tao dahil sa fans ng player na yun
Ang tinutukoy nyang superstar ay yung ginagaya ng mga bata kaga ni MC,JY TR,,,,😂😂😂IDOL KO SI JUNE MAR PERO MAY NAKITA KANA bang bata na tumira sabay sabi ng fajardo ..???😂😂😂 Kagaya nu kay Terence na magcrossover sabay tira tapos sisigaw ng romeo ,,,,ang tanong ko may nakita o nadinig kana bang bata na ginagaya si junemar? ...
@@RenatoJimenez-xi1ok pinagsasabi mo? Tama naman original na comment eh, Super star si Fajardo. Para mo nading sinabi na hindi super star si Shaq o Giannis sa NBA. Lahat ba nang Amerikano ganun kalaki. Hindi diba.
Yea I do agree with PBA’s lack of representation pero in the 90’s ganun din naman pero people flock to see games. I was a fan of Shell,tivoli and of course Alaska, still people see games live. Isa pa PVL is almost the same and yet we see it flourish. For me PBA is a big movie spoiler, alam na antin sino mag chahampion. Manood ka ba ng movie na alam mo na ang ending? Of course not, its a waste of time. PBA’s lack of innovation at yun nga marketing. 3 conferences pero nka talent cap sa height nman in favor of the strong teams, nag import ka pa dba. Filipinos love underdogs if and only if terrafirma and blackwater ay mag champ then baka bumalik. Isa pa “Foreign teams” bakit hindi na lang alisin yung govs cup at gawin international invitational na lang, i mean try something new. Pero habang anjan pa rin si Marcial at yung mga team governor na status quo wala manyayari. You have to let them go first.
Simple. The internet. Ang bilis mo maview ng nba or other league games and you can see the difference of quality. Noong 90s wala ka makikitang ibang liga.
@@ChewyGummy17 yea that separates yung casual to the deep rooted fans. Watching your fave team/player in person is an experience youll never get virtually. RN PBA has no idea how to bridge that gap on enticing people in to arenas. If PVL,UAAP and even MPBL can do it , why cant they? People can also watch these leagues online pero they decide to come in diba? Sabi ko nga parang movie houses land din ngaun, people tend to watch online kahit pirated ung new movies pero if the movie is that good , a small screen wont cut it.
@@VedrifolnirSchoffield panahon b ng crispa toyota parity yun silang dalawa din nagcha2mpion. Ang totong dahilan dami ng choices ng tao ngyn compare dati..at grbe traffc mhal ng bilihin etc.
@@mcthorwmalows kaya nga sabi ko "ONE OF THE REASONS" hindi ko sinabing yan lng ang rason.. daming factors at ibat iba ang reasons ng mga tao individually . And most of the people i know yan din ang tingin
naalala ko ang asar/alias sakin terrence pedro noon, kasi idol talaga yang si T.Romeo, yung mga kabataan ngayon wala namang sumisigaw ng CJ Perez. Mas kilala pa nila sila Coach Mavs atbp
at imbis na sabayan nila ang uso, mas pinili ng pba na lumayo sa fans, kasi mayaman sila malaki tingin nila sa diskarte nila, kaso kita naman ngayon na mali talaga ginagawa nila
what if kung i-distribute ng PBA yung mga Teams to represent a certain place ex. (ginebra - Pasig, San Miguel - San Juan, Magnolia -Mandaluyong, North Port - Manila, Converge - Pampanga, RoS - Bulacan etc. etc.) parang ganun gawin tapos home/visitor ang game sched... then transition to MPBL merging na yan.
Ang mga susunod na superstar sana ng PBA ay gaya nila Rhenz Abando, Thirdy Ravena, Dwight Ramos Justin Gutang, RJ Abarrientos atbp. pero dun na sila sa Korea o Japan naglalaro.
Naalala ko yung nagstart magchampion yung ginebra at smb sa late 2010 sobrng bagsak ng attendance at grabe napaka lopsided ng mga trade naalala ko dati nung nagthreepeat yung san mig don ko masasabe na last part na napaka engage ng fans sa pba anjan yung mga memes at mga discussion eh ngayon wlaa na para sakin ang dapat sisihin yung commisioner mismo wala ng iba, di dpat sisihin ibang liga kundi mismong nasa taas at mga ulupong nya, kung ikaw fans kahit die hard fans kapa ng ginebra or kahit ano pang team kung aapat na teams lang yung alam mong mqgchachampion bat kapa manunuod.
Hanggat ang mga PBA governors ang nagpapatakbo ng liga walang magbabago, dapat ang magpapatakbo ng liga ay mga competent at hindi ang governors para maiwasan ang lopsided trades at mapaganda ang marketing at magkaroon ng mga innovations para mapaganda pa ang liga.
I think mag kakaroon lang talaga ng malaking innovation tong PBA kapag nag sipag retiro na yung matatandang nakaupo dyan ngayon! Kasi baka siguro walang pag babago dahil din sa mga pride ng mga yan! Tska kadalasan sa mga yan ayaw sa modernisation, ayaw nilang masapawan mga teams nila liliit kasi yung profit nila. Kanya kanyang pride, parang politics lang! Pero kung mahahawakan ng bagong generation yan na marunont sumakay sa trend, basta magagabayan lang ng maayus, magiging okay nayang PBA.
Senior na mga board of governors at Marcial. Makaluma palakad, ayaw gamitin ang Socmed bilang marketing. Kumuha sila ng vloggers everyteam para may awarereness sila sa team at players. Para mas makilala sila. Gandahan ang venue tularan ang Japan ,taiwan o indonesia gaganda ng mga vlogs sa indonesia especially Dewa United. Magpa raffle sa mga fans lalo na pag elims mamigay ng motor, kotse sa semis at suv sa finals. Syempre gusto ng fans yan manonood na sila may papremyo pa.
Pba dropped off gate attendance drastically due to they didnt adapt to change or make some innovations that make the league appealable and also added the imbalance trades and lack of leadership of marcial and old heads of governors and to make pba back is to really market their players and make it easier for fans to identify them dati nga kahit di nanonood ng pba kilala sina yap at caguioa ngayon ala na
I agree with this. People pay because of the experience. And also, PBA needs to revamp their marketing, kung meron man. In game, nagpapagames sila pero sinong parang kasali? Most often, mga nsa courtside. Why not select one or two s upper boxes or gen ad? Simple steps would go a long way. And also, instead of blaming smc and mvp teams, sa advent ng bashing generation (sorry s term haha) lets highlight and appreciate successes more instead. Like for example terrafirma going to the quarters, instead na congratulating and uplifting them more, talo na agad wala pa nga. Real talk yes, tall order, pero look at them. Wala namang superstar pero they did everything to win. Ito yung mga dapat hinahighlight. 😊 I do hope PBA reaches this vlog. I super appreciate the breakdowns , xs and os, na dapat natututunan ng isang basketball fan and player that this channel brings. But going back, the PBA has to build their brand. Even though yes sila n ung Professional league s Pinas, but wag sana yun yung maging mindset nila n ok n sila and let the fans come. They would always say sila yung buhay ng liga. Then bring life and greater experience to your audience so that people would start coming again. 😊 And when people start going to the games again because of the experience, bigger stakeholders would love to put in new teams kasi they would see the pba to be once again a venue for more opportunities. More power to your channel sir!
Di ko expected na may isang tao na tulad mo na malaman kung ipaliwanag ang tunay na isyu sa PBA. Tanung ko lng, kaya pa ba ng PBA maka bawe with those issue na napag usapan sa podcast ninyu at sa bidyong itu?? Galing mo par. Shout out from Bicol
Suggestion ko, i link dapat ang teams sa mga provinces at magkaron ng home and away games. For example, Manila Ginkings, Pampanga Elasto Painters, Cebu Beermen etc. I believe magkakaron ng local following ang set up na to at tataas ang gate attendance.
Ung format ng MPBL ang maganda sana eh. If you've noticed, halos lahat ng mga liga sa buong mundo have teams na based sa isang lugar. They do this kase to instill into the minds ng mga tao doon na this is their team at dapat nilang suportahan. From that way, magiincrease ung gate attendance nila kasi makakaconnect ang mga tao sa city na iyon kasi team nila, isama mo pa na may home at away games, mas lalong lalaki ang gate attendance.
Brad @Bakits. Could you also do some checking... based sa experience ko kasi, everytime I purchased tickets sa game ng BGSM even after few days before the game e halos wala na seats available. Pero during the game, yong mga seats na supposedly taken na e wala naman mga nakaupo.
2 import setup. Contract transparency. Invitation of international teams every season. Asian player quota option. Allow naturalized players and one FSA per team. Yan ang magbabalik sa sigla ng PBA.
Nowadays wala ng sweet moves tulad nila vergel meneses maybe balance lang nila ang talent ng team at patayin ang ego ng players pag feeling magaling na sila. Pero nakaka miss parin yung mga sweet moves ng mga player vs balyahan under the basket....
Meron pang player na inaabangan ngayon ng mga tao, unfortunately hindi local... Justin Brownlee.. Tingin ko kapag nawala na si JBL dun na matatapos ang PBA unless gumawa sila ng paraan para panoorin ulit sila ng mga tao
Dati ko pang suggestion is magkaroon ng isang NCR city at provincial na homecourt ang bawat team. Pwde silang mag draw lots para fair. Ex: QC/Cebu Gin Kings or Converge X Pasig/Pampanga. Tapos 2x laro sila sa NCR homecourt, pagkatpos 1 game sa provincial homecourt nila. But agree ako na wlang superstar stigma & marketing ang mga current PBA players.
connect the audience to the team..sa marketing issue malaking impact ang fan base..in short, old school na ang ‘product’ based team..sure ako walang tiwala ang PBA sa live audience puro social media audience na lang marketing nila
Nakakahiya talaga toh sa PBA kasi mas marami nanonood ng UAAP at PVL kesa sa PBA. Mas sumisikat na tuloy ang vball kesa sa bball. Kailangan na talaga palitan si Marcial😅
Ganito po Kasi Yan noong early 90's up to 2010 ang sports lang na malimit mapanood sa Live mapa araneta man Yan or MOA at sa TV ay PBA at UAAP at NCAA lang..Ngayon kasi meron ng PVL "volleyball"Minsan sabay pa ng schedule Yan isa Yan sa factor kaya kumonti ang nanonod sa Venue..den Isang factor din malimit makumpara ang PBA Sa NBA Lalo na Yung mga Hindi 6:41 marunong mag basketball...
Simpleng simple lang solusyon dyan lagyan nila ng soft cap saka minimum spendings ang teams. Tapos ilabas nila yung actual payroll ng bawat team tagal tagal na nyan kase hindi paren nila malabas. Kahit anung gawin mong pagpapanda sa kalahati ng teams sa pba mabubuhat lang yan ng farm teams pababa kasi yan yung problema in the first place. Kumbaga yung sinasabe mong solusyon e band aid lang yan hindi mo inaayos yung talagang problema. Uncertainty is always the one that makes sports great tulad mo sa nba every year for the last 5 years ibang team ang nagchachampion kaya yung buzz na nagagawa nila is napakalakas. At the end of the day competition is what makes the product better hindi mo pedeng lagyan ng band aid solution yan. Mauumay at maaumay lang ang tao.
Need ng PBA na ma pa balik yung mga bata na players na nag lalaro overseas.. like Sotto , Abando , Ramos , Abarrientos , Tamayo.. then papasok sila KQ.. sila ang mga millennial idol sa basketball ngayon ng kabataan.. kung ma Kaka pag laro sila sa PBA sila ang next Stat..
@@sungodnigga15 For me, ito yung main issue ko sa kanila. The idea na nasa liga nila yung best players talent wise. Di na sila nag-iinnovate masyado. The only key innovation lang ata ngayon is yung Coach's Challenge. Other than that, not much
@@sungodnigga15 Ang gusto ko nga sana, pagsabihan ng FIBA ang PBA in the same way na pinagsabihan nila yung mga liga sa Japan. After pinagsabihan ng FIBA yung league sa Japan, dumami na good changes dun
@@manueleduarte1275 sayang kasi ang dami ng MATANGKAD pero talented sa Pinas kaso nasasayang dahil sa Coaching at Organization ng Pinas. Chance na sana makasabay sa Europe pero wala e.
Dapat kc balance...80s 90s PBA exciting panoorin kc balance ung liga. Each team may mga star players na kaya mkipag sabayan sa ibang malalakas na team...iba ang fanbase nung 80s 90s kompara ngayon na puro nalang SMB, Ginebra at nau,may ung mga taomkya wala ng interest sa PBA...
Naalala ko no'ng nasa teens pa lang ako, one reason bakit ako naadik sa PBA ay dahil kay Sol Mercado sa Meralco. Tandem pa sila no'n ni Asi Taulava samahan pa ng medyo may edad nang Cardona kaya pangarap na pangarap ko makanood nang live noon at makabili ng jersey ng Meralco. 'Yon din 'yong time ni Gary David sa Powerade. And isa 'yon sa nawawala ngayon: player marketing. During that time may ads pa ang PBA na may kasamang star player ng bawat team kahit Air21 kaya may titingnan ka na "uy gusto ko manood" "gusto ko makita maglaro to". Ngayon, yes, may mga CJ Perez, JMF, may mga rising stars pa rin naman pero hindi sila nama-market na katulad noon na alam mong kapag Ginebra ang aabangan si Caguioa, kapag Purefoods/B-Meg si Yap, kapag TNT sina Alapag at Castro, sa Alaska si Baguio, etc.
Sir I hope na magrow pa channels mo. Solid palagi content🔥di gaya ng mga walang kabuluhang puro hype ng iba dyan👀 and sana mapadalas ka masama sa mga ganitong klaseng discussions.
Masyadong isolated kase ang basketbol sa Pilipinas kumpara sa ibang bansa. May height restrictions, limited ang foreign imports, mababa ang rewards, at yung mga teams, puro mga companies ang nirerepresent. Yang sistemang na yan, gaya rin sa mismong economic system ng ating bansa, ayaw sumunod sa examples ng ibang progressive bansa dahil tingin naten na ok tayo sa status quo.
What i want to see is let PBA die a natural death and let MPBL be the premiere basketball league when the top PBA stars is dispersed in the regional setup and sponsors will partner with the regional teams what i think PBA/MPBL(replacing PBA) should do is to have transparent compensation and strict team salary cap implementaion update player cap and make the salary like NBA wherein each team could have maybe 2 max player with cap of 2M salary 2 1M players 4 400K players etc etc. current problem new breed of young charismetic players are playing overseas and sees PBA as a last option with higher compensation to worth it players playing on foreign leagues could be salary match for 1 slot per team rookies who has played from other pro league should be excempted from rookie cap And i also think PBA teams should put roots and partner to regional location so each team should have a home court and they just need to play 1 round robin home games example Pasig Ginebra Pampanga Converge etc etc A healthy league should be money generating companies are paying for their products to be advertised.
I think part na rin ng problem is the change in demographics. Sa totoo lang aside sa mga papogi sa mga school at barangay wala ng interes sa basketball ang mga kabataan. Which I think is good kasi need talaga na malipat ang interes ng kabataan sa ibang sports like football at baseball. Another factor is, PBA primarily is a marketing for companies. Teams doesn’t actually represent anyone. Walang pride na nasheshare sa fans kumabaga.
sana pba mag rework. city team na hanggang mindanao may mga sports arena naman kada city and mag boom ang mga business ng ibat ibang lugar, marami manonood kung maglalaban kunyari davao v manila kahit sino pa manlalaro yan may pride ang fans na icheer
its not about idols and quality of player ang dahilan ng mga audience, ... its about distribution and equal strength of the team...hnd mo kayang ibenta ang isang bagay n alam ng customer ang quality ng product mo....sample ako...wala nman ako kilalang player sa mpbl pero pinapanuod ko dahil alam ko maganda ang laro kc equal strength sila...umpredictable kung sino mananalo...hnd nila binilhin yan unless ipakita mong iba n ang laman ng product mo at hnd n ung dating product mo kung saan sila naumay...
sa tingin ko kasi karamihan ng player ngaun madami ng option na liga na pwede salihan domestic at international. Tapos alam na ng mga fans kung sino mananalo medyo alam na nila hindi na exciting. cguro baka o sana in less than 10yrs makabalik sa dati ang pba.
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Speaking of selling products, yung ibng teams kasi nonsensical na in terms of the products they're suppose to be selling. May mapagpipilian ba na ibang products versus Meralco o NLEX? No-choice ka naman na gamitin mga utilities na yun eh, alam mong andun lang sila para dumami teams ni MVP. Tapos kung ang point ng PBA is to push your products, bakit ilang taon na Terrafirma sa liga pero di pa rin alam ng karamihan kung ano ba binebenta nila? In terms of earnings, correct me if I'm wrong but I read somewhere that most (?) MPBL games are free entrance. Kaya kahit na madaming nanunood they're still not commecrially viable, di pa rin sila kumikita. Nakasandal lang sila sa backing ng local politicians. Pero ang bottomline, napag-iwanan na talaga PBA. Like you said, they should sell the experience. Ang lungkot lang na during one of the games at Rizal Memorial, may nagvi-videoke during the game. Dapat di nila pinayagan yun, may image of professionalism pa din dapat yung PBA. Tapos wala pa silang pake kung na-hack yung All-Star voting nila. All of these things will turn off most fans.
My take Marcial is not forever ,PBA politics is not forever but will stay longer than Marcial, Money is always limited especially dun sa Small teams but creative minds doesnt stop, Solution free agency draft sa All Filipino example - Al Hussaini ,Quinahan balik PBA 3 UAAP/ NCAA 1 conference contract parang kung baga sa estudyante OJT example Quiambao to Northport,Balunggay to Blackwater Revamp the All Star game format suggestion Young once (35up) vs. Young ones format (Rookies,Sophomores and Juniors
Kinda vague though. I think we all agree na kailangan pagandahin yung PBA as a product. It definitely needs much better marketing. How exactly do you do that? By finding the next Terrence Romeo? He's probably in Japan right now, or headed there. We don't have marketable stars because most of them are not home, which is another problem of the PBA. I also kinda disagree with the point about pinoy fans not being able to appreciate serious Basketball talk. I think that's universal - the average fan of any team of any sport understands little more than "score more points than the other team!" It's why many NBA fans think less physicality = less defense. One contributing factor to the lack of serious pinoy Basketball fans is the lack of experts in Philippine sports media. The leading analysts and color commentators should not be people with degrees in Journalism who cover multiple sports, few of which they actually understand.
Tama ako ngq taga bicol pero pag naka tungtong ako sa metro manila matik nunuod ako pba hahaha lalo na ngayon onti nalng pati nq nunuod haha solid nayan magpa pic 😆. Tinqlo na ng MPBL yung PBA. At isa pa kasing problema yung hindi pag kinig nilq sa mga fans. Na umay na mga tao kakaantay ng pag babago.
Kume Marcial does not know this : NINGAS KUGON - the tendency to start something with great enthusiasm but then quickly lose interest or fail to follow through. My wanted to advocate the change in a legal way however crossing the line is the last option to make it happen like what happened to Former CEO of the Luxury Brand Gucci, Maurizio Gucci who was g***ed down in March 1995. Afterwards, nag-bloom ang Gucci.
I think mas better na isang format na lang tas import laden tas balance ung trade tas may inv team like bay area bago sa paningin tsaka mas mababago ung laro kase mahihirapan ung mga locals naten.
Dapat isang season nlng kase. Mahabang gap, hindi ung next month umpisa na ulit bagong season, nakakaumay. Wala nang dating ung championship sa PBA hindi na ganon kalakas ung impact
May internet may TV na kasi madami na platform para makanood na nasa bahay ka lang tapos ppunta ka sa venue matrapik pa sana mura na lng ticket iimprove ang mga scoreboard pagandahin ang PBA
@@redlauro if it helps why not haha must madaming viewership at audience attendance pag ganun. mostly kase ang pinapanood ng fans lang ang ginebra at smb. Tsaka kase mas accessible din sa ibang fans sa ibang regions.
At sana libre lang yung league 2 pang marketing strategies ba na laging dumadayo sa mga probinsya or sa mga NCAA at UAAP basketball kasali sana at Visayas at Mindanao na university
Pagandahin ng PBA ang League 2 Isali magagaling na team ng ibang liga gaya ng mpbl Japan B league CBA Thailand Indonesia Taiwan Guest team para good entertainment
Kung regionalize dapat Hindi hawak Ng politiko Yung mga team gaya Ng Manny Pacquiao basketball league na puro mayor, vice mayor ,governor, senador may Ari Ng teams
cross league tourna PBA-MPBL. gandang promotion. Itry din kaya nila iffree gen admission😂 kapag wala pa ding nanood, ala talaga. O kaya itie up nila sa mga products; ex 5 tansan ng gin bilog = 1 gen admission ticket etc. Iconvince nila mga empleyado nila manood. smb at gsm dami emp nyan oh.
Naisip ko rin, part ng marketing, media training ng players. Ginagawa ng F1 yan sa junior driver programs nila. Tapos nakatulong yung Netflix drive to survive. Baka makatulong din na magka-off season PBA tapos gawa sila ng mga training camps for kids and top prospects to build generations of fans
I want to ride dun sa observation ni sir Ize. Na mentioned kasi na ung current market nya is na hi hit pa din ng PBA. But, i-add ko lang na since ang nature nung league is teams founded on brands and not on cities/places. So your fanbase per team would have no real or personal connection sa team. Cguro sa players yes, pwede pa na hatak mo ung fanbase just because andyan sa team mo ung favorite player ng mga tao (just as the case of T Romeo and Kyt). Going back dun sa teams founded on brands, PBA's whole business principle is earning off from the brands na nag form nung teams and d siya necessarily earning off dun sa Gate Attendance. They are already earning dun palang sa teams kasi these teams would be willing to spend much just to be in the PBA for the purpose of Brand Relevance and Advertising. Just as long may TV or SocMed coverage ung games ok na sa kanila kasi for these teams, na serve na ung purpose na bakit pumasok sila sa league. Teams are happy so PBA is happy kasi may willing and paying customers sila. Kaya nga three conferences in a year kasi to accomodate more playing time and more air time sa mga brands yan. Bonus na pag pumasok sa playoffs ung teams. PBA may or may not desire for more seats sold per game but ung laro kasi is as long as may paying teams bawi na sila to cover the league expenses.
Ano ang ibig sabihin mo ng spending teams? Ang mga brand mismo ang nagpapatakbo ng teams. Kung hindi kikita ang team, ang brand mismo ang sasalo sa lugi. Ok lng yung lugi kung sulit sa ads na hinahatak ng PBA. Pero kung masyadong malaki ang lugi, e di bakit pa sila sasali sa liga? May rason na nawala na ang Alaska Aces.
@@retrictumrectus1010 That's what I mean. These brands would pay for a team's franchise spot which in return PBA has the responsibility of marketing and provide a platform for these brands in a form of teams. Lesser tickets sold doesn't directly affect the brands or the team. As long as may TV coverage, SocMed coverage, or any other platform coverage, that in itself has a lot more reach and those brands are ok with it. Does it hurt PBA knowing that lesser people are buying tickets? I don't know. But the fact that PBA's stance has been still strong in keeping their strategies the same tells us something. That probably, they do not care gate attendance and that they're funds are not hurting.
It has been 2 decades too late. 4:01 remember Asi Taulava's retirement ceremony? Asi had a lot to thank for, the PBA had a lot to thank him, but he ended up thanking to the wind
I was able to watch PBA and MPBL, mas nae enjoy ko yung MPBL kasi sa format, yung lugar, yung tao pero quality players parin ang PBA mas enjoyable nga lang ang MPBL
Ung mismong format ng PBA (3-conference format) since 1975 pa yan. Kaya napag-iwanan na kasi ayaw nila mag-evolve. Pati ung issue ng parity mauumay ka na lang dahil same teams lang ang lumalaban sa championship.
Kung ganto lang sana 😫 Remove yung 3 conferences gawin nalang 30 games per season 15 home 15 away parang ganun Add ng home / away teams, kung nag wowork nga sa mbpl why not sa pba? Remove import height limit, kaya nalulula tayo pag dating sa mga international tournaments e. Ex fiba world cup, fiba asia cup. Add 2 imports per team, gayahin nalang rules ng ibang liga like bawal yung 2 imports pagsabayin sa court. Hire ng foreign coaches, layo ng playstyle ng pinoy compare sa international coaches need natin ng wisdom nila playmaking drills etc
PBA kasi ay liga ng san miguel. sila nag co control kung kanino mapupunta ang isang superstar kaya nawala yung competitiveness ng PBA. 2012 pa ako huling nanood ng PBA sa araneta.
Sa totoo lang, hindi ko alam kung may marketing sila, sobrang disjointed marketing mix nila o kaya kung produkto paguusapan, masaya na sila sa core benefit at pinabayaan na nila ang mga ibang level
Highly unlikely na gagayahin ng PBA ang NBA or MPBL, or yung naunang MBA. Mahina na ticket sales sa Manila so risk sa kanila na maglalaro sa ibang cities on a regular basis. Too many teams owned by one corporation. Should be one team, one group. Not sure how broadcast rights or ticket sales are distributed sa league. If evenly, then those with more teams get more revenue, which already makes it unbalanced.
1. Corruption between the two big corporate teams 2. Talent hoarding 3. No real superstar face of the league that entices even the casual people to watch ( ex. Lebron for the NBA ) 4. PVL has clearly overtaken popularity among filipinos 5. MPBL has a better reach in the local community in terms of fans. 6. Garbage outdated transaction system.
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Galing Tama Marketing, Hindi na nadadala yung brand identity na nirerepresent ng bawat teams.
Mga team owners may ari nang makalalaking company. Baka ito ginagawa nila ay base sa research nila. Maaring mahal n masyado magpatakbo ng PBA. Kaya di nila basta basta magawa improvements
FIBA World Cup happening here changed the perspective of pinoy hoops fans. It made things much worse for the PBA.
tumaas lalo standards.
Yeah kaya naging kakatawanan yung may height limit na import. Imagine sa europe at US mga 6'10 to 7 footer nila parang guard pa na mag laro samantala sa pilipinas 6'3 to 6'6 center na taga sceeen at low post lang alam lol
@@nestpaul356 tingin ko cultural perception na din to sa pinas. parang sa mga bata sino pinakamatangkad sa 5 player = center.
di tulad sa ibang bansa kasi kahit matangkad may option sila pumili ng position na gusto nila o kaya maalam ang coach nila na dito sila sa position nato magaling. ilagay mo dito si lebron sa pinas panigurado sentro yan. 😂
One major reason sa current crisis ng PBA: na-realize na ng Pinoy kung gaano ka-global ang basketball, at kung gaano ka-archaic ang sistema ng sarili nating liga.
Walang parity, walang teams na may culture & identity na nag-re-resonate sa tao (except Ginebra), lack of openness to international players. Ilan lang yan sa issue na dapat ayusin.
as a Ginebra fan tumigil na din ako manood PBA 2 yrs ago bukod pa doon ang baduy na nitong liga msyadong lumang style, hndi balanse teams at bulok ang sistema.
lack of openness ba talaga para sa international players o PBA na ang isa sa mga last option ng mga foreigner para maglaro sa pinas? andami kasing basketball league na mas malaki ang kikitain nila tulad ng CBA, euroleague, taiwan, japan at korea. mga iba ngang pinoy naglalaro sa ibang ibang bansa kaysa dito. 😂🤣
@@hachibei4914 sa tingin mo paano umabot sa ganung situation na last option na ang PBA kahit na ang laki ng headstart natin compared sa mga liga ng Korea & Japan?
@@jonPrs 3 nakikita kong bagay e. pera, competition at marketing. may mga players pa din na gustong imarket ang sarili nila para mapansin ng mga scouts para makasali sila sa ibang malaking liga dito kasi wala na yung hinahanap mong hype tulad ng dati nung mga 90s at 2000s kapag ang mag kalaban ginebra at magnolia rivalry. ngayon ang highlights nalang ng PBA suntukan di yung laro mismo.
@@hachibei4914 Agree ako dun sa lack of hype, yun yung effect ng pagiging predictable ng liga, walang sense abangan yung matchups kung sa unang tingin mo pa lang sa lineups may idea na kung sino maghaharap sa championship. No amount of marketing ang kukumbinsi sa 'yo na manood.
Anyways, naalala mo yung Fil-Sham scandal? Looking back, dapat dun pa lang nag-start na mag-open for international players sa PBA, noong struggling pa yung basketball leagues ng Japan & Korea, (at nasa World Cup fever pa yung dalawang bansa so medyo sidelined ang basketball). Sayang din yung attempt nila dati na mag-add ng Asian imports, di na-sustain.
Unfortunately, PBA refused to see the trend, di sumabay sa globalization, instead nag-stick sila sa 90s mindset for too long. Ngayon stable na yung mga Asian leagues (at sila na yung preference ng foreign players) samantalang PBA na ang nasa existential crisis.
big respect bro. I don't watch many Filipino channels because they are waaaay too optimistic and are afraid of constructive criticism that might offend a subset of people.
you have the correct mindset in fixing the PBA, I hope they actually implement anything of what you said because it's all logically feasible.
PBA is like a non stop advertising for the brands there. ginebra, rain or shine? who tf wants to support a multimillion company’s basketball team? unlike sa NBA na per province or city ang mga nirerepresent nila and may sense of patriotism dahil sumusuporta sila sa city team nila. and skillwise and sa production, NBA is just more worth our time.
Mpbl
i hope mpbl becomes the next pba na
Imagine national obsession na nga basketball sa Pilipinas di pa tinatao
Vovov kasi kayo mag observe galing kasi sa pandemya , at ginebra lang naman talaga matao dahil nga pandemya syempee mahihirap lang fans kaya mas piliin. Alang nila manood sa bahay
Dati pa naman ganyan sa ibang teams langaw na talaga HAHAHAHAHA gins lang nakakapuno Imagine phil arena na puno hehe
💯 mas puno pa venue kapag UAAPWV eh
Nagsawa na obvious na Sino mananalo lagi smc teams at walang competition ahhahaha
Tingnan mo ba naman bench minsan sa mg court mga players nakaupo sa monoblock na upuan tapos allstar game yung 3 point contest parang pina welding lang tapos skills challenge na 2000 yung format tapos mga team na dinmarunong mag market ng players nila sino pa ba manunuod diyan tapos mga trade na walang logic parang nag laro ka sa 2k24 tapos in off mo yung trade logix tapos lahat ng malalka kinuha mo my god boring na mpbl nalang talaga ang maayos na lig ngayon mas professional galawan dun kesa pba ginebra lang tinatap
1st pick tapos kaya na bumuhat ng team bigla itrtade sa big teams tapos kapalit di ganun kagaling
Another San Miguel - Ginebra final looming. Sa NBA, mga dating bottomfeeders na Thunder at Twolves, ngayon contender na. Ang Blackwater and Terrafirma, 10 taon na sa PBA, kahit semis man lang wala pa rin.
Apart nung nagsemis blackwater 2018 kontra ginebra ii believe tama ka hindi rin masiyadong maganda image ng terrafirma unfortunately when it comes to records.
@@Abdulmalik7Sarip7Correction po, Rain or Shine ang nag semis against Ginebra talking about the Commissioner's Cup. Or siyempre, ang Manila Clasico nung Governors' Cup.
Wala na tayong magawa when it comes to pba eh, High Caliber Coach nga na si Coach Tab Baldwin na nagsabi Dapat 2 imports, di pinakingan, minasama pa. NBA all-star din na si Dwight Howard, di rin pinakinggan when it comes to height limit.
maski yung dating imports ng Gilas nakikiusap na palaruin at tanggalin ang height limit AYAW pa din ng mga matatanda na nagpapatakbo ng PBA
Kaya mas dinadayo ang MPBL in terms of gate attendance dahil nirerepresenta nila ang isang bayan. Dapat may identity ang isang club. Logic lang yan, makakalimutin ang average fan. Like Alaska is now converge. Ilang porsyento ang mga nakakakilala sa Alaska na Converge na pala ngayon ang team. Opinion ko lang po, na sana mag expand ang PBA into inter-city basketball clubs and franchise. That's how they can stay relevant.
Agree. Ang dream scenario talaga is merging ng PBA tsaka MPBL.
Teams na may cities or province na nirerepresent tapos yung sponsors included sa team name or sa jerseys. Parang sa Euroleague.
Just imagine these hypothetical team names:
Manila Brgy. Ginebra
Rizal Sta. Lucia
Makati Ayala
One of the reasons ay umasa ang pba sa kasikatan ginebra in terms of fan base.. at isa timamad ang marketing team ng pba..
The last player you can consider as a "superstar" is Junemar Fajardo. Siguro pwede din si Scottie Thompson pero debatable pa. The rest, basketball player lang.
Ngayon ang issue sa NBA, sino ang next face of NBA. LeBron, Steph, and KD are getting older. Ngayon hinahanap nila sa pool of superstar kung sino pwede maging face ng NBA. Luka, Ant, Shai, JT, Giannis, Jokic, D.Book, kahit si Wemby, gusto igroom ng NBA para kahit magretire na si LeBron, Steph, and KD, hindi mawawala yung attention ng tao sa NBA.
Kahit per team lang sana may franchise player
Yun ang problema eh
Kahit ba konting teams lang nanalo, atleast may franchise player kada team tapos competitive lahat ng roster tatauhin pa din yan kahit papano
Superteam nga ang isang team sino ang franchise player sa kanila? Sino yung face ng team na yun?
Para at least diba kikita sila kasi bibili yung tao dahil sa fans ng player na yun
Nasa abroad na kasi yung mga next generation stars dapat sa pba so matagal makahanap ulit na player tulad nila jmf at scottie thompson
Ang tinutukoy nyang superstar ay yung ginagaya ng mga bata kaga ni MC,JY TR,,,,😂😂😂IDOL KO SI JUNE MAR PERO MAY NAKITA KANA bang bata na tumira sabay sabi ng fajardo ..???😂😂😂 Kagaya nu kay Terence na magcrossover sabay tira tapos sisigaw ng romeo ,,,,ang tanong ko may nakita o nadinig kana bang bata na ginagaya si junemar? ...
@@RenatoJimenez-xi1ok😂 agree bro, as if naman pati karamihan ng pinoy kasing tangkad or matangkad gaya ni Fajardo pra magaya yung laro nya.
@@RenatoJimenez-xi1ok pinagsasabi mo? Tama naman original na comment eh, Super star si Fajardo. Para mo nading sinabi na hindi super star si Shaq o Giannis sa NBA. Lahat ba nang Amerikano ganun kalaki. Hindi diba.
Yea I do agree with PBA’s lack of representation pero in the 90’s ganun din naman pero people flock to see games. I was a fan of Shell,tivoli and of course Alaska, still people see games live. Isa pa PVL is almost the same and yet we see it flourish. For me PBA is a big movie spoiler, alam na antin sino mag chahampion. Manood ka ba ng movie na alam mo na ang ending? Of course not, its a waste of time.
PBA’s lack of innovation at yun nga marketing. 3 conferences pero nka talent cap sa height nman in favor of the strong teams, nag import ka pa dba.
Filipinos love underdogs if and only if terrafirma and blackwater ay mag champ then baka bumalik. Isa pa “Foreign teams” bakit hindi na lang alisin yung govs cup at gawin international invitational na lang, i mean try something new.
Pero habang anjan pa rin si Marcial at yung mga team governor na status quo wala manyayari. You have to let them go first.
Simple. The internet. Ang bilis mo maview ng nba or other league games and you can see the difference of quality. Noong 90s wala ka makikitang ibang liga.
@@ChewyGummy17 yea that separates yung casual to the deep rooted fans. Watching your fave team/player in person is an experience youll never get virtually. RN PBA has no idea how to bridge that gap on enticing people in to arenas. If PVL,UAAP and even MPBL can do it , why cant they? People can also watch these leagues online pero they decide to come in diba? Sabi ko nga parang movie houses land din ngaun, people tend to watch online kahit pirated ung new movies pero if the movie is that good , a small screen wont cut it.
@@ChewyGummy17YES! Isang factor din yan.. 😂 pro one of the big reasons jan is yung hindi balance mga team😂
@@VedrifolnirSchoffield panahon b ng crispa toyota parity yun silang dalawa din nagcha2mpion. Ang totong dahilan dami ng choices ng tao ngyn compare dati..at grbe traffc mhal ng bilihin etc.
@@mcthorwmalows kaya nga sabi ko "ONE OF THE REASONS" hindi ko sinabing yan lng ang rason.. daming factors at ibat iba ang reasons ng mga tao individually . And most of the people i know yan din ang tingin
THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE, LET'S MAKE IT ABOUT THE PROVINCES LIKE THE NBA ITS ABOUT THE STATE KAYA MAY MARKET NA AGAD SILA.
naalala ko ang asar/alias sakin terrence pedro noon, kasi idol talaga yang si T.Romeo, yung mga kabataan ngayon wala namang sumisigaw ng CJ Perez. Mas kilala pa nila sila Coach Mavs atbp
at imbis na sabayan nila ang uso, mas pinili ng pba na lumayo sa fans, kasi mayaman sila malaki tingin nila sa diskarte nila, kaso kita naman ngayon na mali talaga ginagawa nila
what if kung i-distribute ng PBA yung mga Teams to represent a certain place ex. (ginebra - Pasig, San Miguel - San Juan, Magnolia -Mandaluyong, North Port - Manila, Converge - Pampanga, RoS - Bulacan etc. etc.) parang ganun gawin tapos home/visitor ang game sched... then transition to MPBL merging na yan.
Sana i merge nalang... tulad ng ginawa ng NBA at ABA. Pero yun nga need mag adopt ng City ni PBA
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MPBL at PBA sana magmerge. Suportado pa grassroots.
Pero mukhang malabo to lods di naman kasi magbebenefit ang SMC at MVP companies pag ganito
malabo yan lods.
Ang mga susunod na superstar sana ng PBA ay gaya nila Rhenz Abando, Thirdy Ravena, Dwight Ramos Justin Gutang, RJ Abarrientos atbp. pero dun na sila sa Korea o Japan naglalaro.
Naalala ko yung nagstart magchampion yung ginebra at smb sa late 2010 sobrng bagsak ng attendance at grabe napaka lopsided ng mga trade naalala ko dati nung nagthreepeat yung san mig don ko masasabe na last part na napaka engage ng fans sa pba anjan yung mga memes at mga discussion eh ngayon wlaa na para sakin ang dapat sisihin yung commisioner mismo wala ng iba, di dpat sisihin ibang liga kundi mismong nasa taas at mga ulupong nya, kung ikaw fans kahit die hard fans kapa ng ginebra or kahit ano pang team kung aapat na teams lang yung alam mong mqgchachampion bat kapa manunuod.
Makapanood nga ng full podcast.
iba ka talaga mag paliwanag ize ❤
PBA is PBA still, I agree to this 💯 percent. The league needs a pool of marketing team, combination of GenZ, Millennials, and older gen.
Hanggat ang mga PBA governors ang nagpapatakbo ng liga walang magbabago, dapat ang magpapatakbo ng liga ay mga competent at hindi ang governors para maiwasan ang lopsided trades at mapaganda ang marketing at magkaroon ng mga innovations para mapaganda pa ang liga.
I think mag kakaroon lang talaga ng malaking innovation tong PBA kapag nag sipag retiro na yung matatandang nakaupo dyan ngayon! Kasi baka siguro walang pag babago dahil din sa mga pride ng mga yan! Tska kadalasan sa mga yan ayaw sa modernisation, ayaw nilang masapawan mga teams nila liliit kasi yung profit nila. Kanya kanyang pride, parang politics lang!
Pero kung mahahawakan ng bagong generation yan na marunont sumakay sa trend, basta magagabayan lang ng maayus, magiging okay nayang PBA.
Senior na mga board of governors at Marcial. Makaluma palakad, ayaw gamitin ang Socmed bilang marketing. Kumuha sila ng vloggers everyteam para may awarereness sila sa team at players. Para mas makilala sila. Gandahan ang venue tularan ang Japan ,taiwan o indonesia gaganda ng mga vlogs sa indonesia especially Dewa United. Magpa raffle sa mga fans lalo na pag elims mamigay ng motor, kotse sa semis at suv sa finals. Syempre gusto ng fans yan manonood na sila may papremyo pa.
Pba dropped off gate attendance drastically due to they didnt adapt to change or make some innovations that make the league appealable and also added the imbalance trades and lack of leadership of marcial and old heads of governors and to make pba back is to really market their players and make it easier for fans to identify them dati nga kahit di nanonood ng pba kilala sina yap at caguioa ngayon ala na
I agree with this. People pay because of the experience. And also, PBA needs to revamp their marketing, kung meron man. In game, nagpapagames sila pero sinong parang kasali? Most often, mga nsa courtside. Why not select one or two s upper boxes or gen ad? Simple steps would go a long way. And also, instead of blaming smc and mvp teams, sa advent ng bashing generation (sorry s term haha) lets highlight and appreciate successes more instead. Like for example terrafirma going to the quarters, instead na congratulating and uplifting them more, talo na agad wala pa nga. Real talk yes, tall order, pero look at them. Wala namang superstar pero they did everything to win. Ito yung mga dapat hinahighlight. 😊
I do hope PBA reaches this vlog. I super appreciate the breakdowns , xs and os, na dapat natututunan ng isang basketball fan and player that this channel brings. But going back, the PBA has to build their brand. Even though yes sila n ung Professional league s Pinas, but wag sana yun yung maging mindset nila n ok n sila and let the fans come. They would always say sila yung buhay ng liga. Then bring life and greater experience to your audience so that people would start coming again. 😊 And when people start going to the games again because of the experience, bigger stakeholders would love to put in new teams kasi they would see the pba to be once again a venue for more opportunities.
More power to your channel sir!
Di ko expected na may isang tao na tulad mo na malaman kung ipaliwanag ang tunay na isyu sa PBA. Tanung ko lng, kaya pa ba ng PBA maka bawe with those issue na napag usapan sa podcast ninyu at sa bidyong itu??
Galing mo par.
Shout out from Bicol
Suggestion ko, i link dapat ang teams sa mga provinces at magkaron ng home and away games. For example, Manila Ginkings, Pampanga Elasto Painters, Cebu Beermen etc. I believe magkakaron ng local following ang set up na to at tataas ang gate attendance.
Ung format ng MPBL ang maganda sana eh. If you've noticed, halos lahat ng mga liga sa buong mundo have teams na based sa isang lugar. They do this kase to instill into the minds ng mga tao doon na this is their team at dapat nilang suportahan. From that way, magiincrease ung gate attendance nila kasi makakaconnect ang mga tao sa city na iyon kasi team nila, isama mo pa na may home at away games, mas lalong lalaki ang gate attendance.
Cute mo pala Boss Ize, buti nalang straight ako(Am I now?)
Well said!!!
Brad @Bakits. Could you also do some checking... based sa experience ko kasi, everytime I purchased tickets sa game ng BGSM even after few days before the game e halos wala na seats available. Pero during the game, yong mga seats na supposedly taken na e wala naman mga nakaupo.
2 import setup. Contract transparency. Invitation of international teams every season. Asian player quota option. Allow naturalized players and one FSA per team. Yan ang magbabalik sa sigla ng PBA.
Nowadays wala ng sweet moves tulad nila vergel meneses maybe balance lang nila ang talent ng team at patayin ang ego ng players pag feeling magaling na sila. Pero nakaka miss parin yung mga sweet moves ng mga player vs balyahan under the basket....
Meron pang player na inaabangan ngayon ng mga tao, unfortunately hindi local...
Justin Brownlee..
Tingin ko kapag nawala na si JBL dun na matatapos ang PBA unless gumawa sila ng paraan para panoorin ulit sila ng mga tao
Noon PBA maraming fans..ngayun sa smartphone naka babad ang ibang manga Pinoy...
Kaka cellphone mo yan eh. Walang word na "manga"
Di excuse yang kaka selpon. Ang mga NBA fans puro din naman selpon pero may effect ba sa number ng views ng NBA? 😂
Dati ko pang suggestion is magkaroon ng isang NCR city at provincial na homecourt ang bawat team. Pwde silang mag draw lots para fair. Ex: QC/Cebu Gin Kings or Converge X Pasig/Pampanga. Tapos 2x laro sila sa NCR homecourt, pagkatpos 1 game sa provincial homecourt nila. But agree ako na wlang superstar stigma & marketing ang mga current PBA players.
connect the audience to the team..sa marketing issue malaking impact ang fan base..in short, old school na ang ‘product’ based team..sure ako walang tiwala ang PBA sa live audience puro social media audience na lang marketing nila
Nakakahiya talaga toh sa PBA kasi mas marami nanonood ng UAAP at PVL kesa sa PBA. Mas sumisikat na tuloy ang vball kesa sa bball. Kailangan na talaga palitan si Marcial😅
Vball nyu Hirap pa sa sea games
Ganito po Kasi Yan noong early 90's up to 2010 ang sports lang na malimit mapanood sa Live mapa araneta man Yan or MOA at sa TV ay PBA at UAAP at NCAA lang..Ngayon kasi meron ng PVL "volleyball"Minsan sabay pa ng schedule Yan isa Yan sa factor kaya kumonti ang nanonod sa Venue..den Isang factor din malimit makumpara ang PBA Sa NBA Lalo na Yung mga Hindi 6:41 marunong mag basketball...
5:10 yung mga idol material kasi bro kagaya ni lakay nasa KBL, B-league or nsa abroad
Simpleng simple lang solusyon dyan lagyan nila ng soft cap saka minimum spendings ang teams. Tapos ilabas nila yung actual payroll ng bawat team tagal tagal na nyan kase hindi paren nila malabas. Kahit anung gawin mong pagpapanda sa kalahati ng teams sa pba mabubuhat lang yan ng farm teams pababa kasi yan yung problema in the first place. Kumbaga yung sinasabe mong solusyon e band aid lang yan hindi mo inaayos yung talagang problema. Uncertainty is always the one that makes sports great tulad mo sa nba every year for the last 5 years ibang team ang nagchachampion kaya yung buzz na nagagawa nila is napakalakas. At the end of the day competition is what makes the product better hindi mo pedeng lagyan ng band aid solution yan. Mauumay at maaumay lang ang tao.
agree boss
Halos SMC at MVP ang lagi nagcchampion
SMC lang nagpapalitan boss. Parang di na din all in si MVP
Need ng PBA na ma pa balik yung mga bata na players na nag lalaro overseas.. like Sotto , Abando , Ramos , Abarrientos , Tamayo.. then papasok sila KQ.. sila ang mga millennial idol sa basketball ngayon ng kabataan.. kung ma Kaka pag laro sila sa PBA sila ang next Stat..
Sir, kung ikaw na may mas malaking offer sa ibang bansa at chance mo pang makakalaro yung mas magagaling na mga player, mag lalaro ka pa ba sa PBA?
@@thomascamus3136If the quality wasn't shit
MPBL na ngayon
So, with this in mind, fair ba to say na overall, totoo yung claim of a "dying league?"
Yung mga Gurang na board of directors hindi ma gets na kailangan sumabay ibang liga sa Asia. Ma Pride kasi feeling TOP league😂
@@sungodnigga15 For me, ito yung main issue ko sa kanila. The idea na nasa liga nila yung best players talent wise. Di na sila nag-iinnovate masyado. The only key innovation lang ata ngayon is yung Coach's Challenge. Other than that, not much
@@sungodnigga15 Ang gusto ko nga sana, pagsabihan ng FIBA ang PBA in the same way na pinagsabihan nila yung mga liga sa Japan. After pinagsabihan ng FIBA yung league sa Japan, dumami na good changes dun
@@manueleduarte1275 sayang kasi ang dami ng MATANGKAD pero talented sa Pinas kaso nasasayang dahil sa Coaching at Organization ng Pinas. Chance na sana makasabay sa Europe pero wala e.
Dapat kc balance...80s 90s PBA exciting panoorin kc balance ung liga. Each team may mga star players na kaya mkipag sabayan sa ibang malalakas na team...iba ang fanbase nung 80s 90s kompara ngayon na puro nalang SMB, Ginebra at nau,may ung mga taomkya wala ng interest sa PBA...
Naalala ko no'ng nasa teens pa lang ako, one reason bakit ako naadik sa PBA ay dahil kay Sol Mercado sa Meralco. Tandem pa sila no'n ni Asi Taulava samahan pa ng medyo may edad nang Cardona kaya pangarap na pangarap ko makanood nang live noon at makabili ng jersey ng Meralco. 'Yon din 'yong time ni Gary David sa Powerade. And isa 'yon sa nawawala ngayon: player marketing. During that time may ads pa ang PBA na may kasamang star player ng bawat team kahit Air21 kaya may titingnan ka na "uy gusto ko manood" "gusto ko makita maglaro to". Ngayon, yes, may mga CJ Perez, JMF, may mga rising stars pa rin naman pero hindi sila nama-market na katulad noon na alam mong kapag Ginebra ang aabangan si Caguioa, kapag Purefoods/B-Meg si Yap, kapag TNT sina Alapag at Castro, sa Alaska si Baguio, etc.
bet sa ending ang dahilan bakit may nanonood pa ng pba, tinalo na nga sila ng volleyball pagdating sa dami ng manonood
Sir I hope na magrow pa channels mo. Solid palagi content🔥di gaya ng mga walang kabuluhang puro hype ng iba dyan👀
and sana mapadalas ka masama sa mga ganitong klaseng discussions.
Para sa akin suportahan ko pa Rin Ang pba kung ayaw Ng pba wag na manuod kahit gilas wag KAYONG manood Kase pba. Player sila
Masyadong isolated kase ang basketbol sa Pilipinas kumpara sa ibang bansa. May height restrictions, limited ang foreign imports, mababa ang rewards, at yung mga teams, puro mga companies ang nirerepresent. Yang sistemang na yan, gaya rin sa mismong economic system ng ating bansa, ayaw sumunod sa examples ng ibang progressive bansa dahil tingin naten na ok tayo sa status quo.
What i want to see is let PBA die a natural death and let MPBL be the premiere basketball league
when the top PBA stars is dispersed in the regional setup and sponsors will partner with the regional teams
what i think PBA/MPBL(replacing PBA) should do is to have transparent compensation and strict team salary cap implementaion
update player cap
and make the salary like NBA wherein each team could have maybe 2 max player with cap of 2M salary
2 1M players
4 400K players
etc etc.
current problem new breed of young charismetic players are playing overseas and sees PBA as a last option
with higher compensation to worth it players playing on foreign leagues could be salary match for 1 slot per team
rookies who has played from other pro league should be excempted from rookie cap
And i also think PBA teams should put roots and partner to regional location so each team should have a home court
and they just need to play 1 round robin home games
example
Pasig Ginebra
Pampanga Converge
etc etc
A healthy league should be money generating companies are paying for their products to be advertised.
I think part na rin ng problem is the change in demographics. Sa totoo lang aside sa mga papogi sa mga school at barangay wala ng interes sa basketball ang mga kabataan. Which I think is good kasi need talaga na malipat ang interes ng kabataan sa ibang sports like football at baseball.
Another factor is, PBA primarily is a marketing for companies. Teams doesn’t actually represent anyone. Walang pride na nasheshare sa fans kumabaga.
sana pba mag rework. city team na hanggang mindanao may mga sports arena naman kada city and mag boom ang mga business ng ibat ibang lugar, marami manonood kung maglalaban kunyari davao v manila kahit sino pa manlalaro yan may pride ang fans na icheer
its not about idols and quality of player ang dahilan ng mga audience, ... its about distribution and equal strength of the team...hnd mo kayang ibenta ang isang bagay n alam ng customer ang quality ng product mo....sample ako...wala nman ako kilalang player sa mpbl pero pinapanuod ko dahil alam ko maganda ang laro kc equal strength sila...umpredictable kung sino mananalo...hnd nila binilhin yan unless ipakita mong iba n ang laman ng product mo at hnd n ung dating product mo kung saan sila naumay...
sa tingin ko kasi karamihan ng player ngaun madami ng option na liga na pwede salihan domestic at international. Tapos alam na ng mga fans kung sino mananalo medyo alam na nila hindi na exciting. cguro baka o sana in less than 10yrs makabalik sa dati ang pba.
Speaking of selling products, yung ibng teams kasi nonsensical na in terms of the products they're suppose to be selling. May mapagpipilian ba na ibang products versus Meralco o NLEX? No-choice ka naman na gamitin mga utilities na yun eh, alam mong andun lang sila para dumami teams ni MVP. Tapos kung ang point ng PBA is to push your products, bakit ilang taon na Terrafirma sa liga pero di pa rin alam ng karamihan kung ano ba binebenta nila?
In terms of earnings, correct me if I'm wrong but I read somewhere that most (?) MPBL games are free entrance. Kaya kahit na madaming nanunood they're still not commecrially viable, di pa rin sila kumikita. Nakasandal lang sila sa backing ng local politicians.
Pero ang bottomline, napag-iwanan na talaga PBA. Like you said, they should sell the experience. Ang lungkot lang na during one of the games at Rizal Memorial, may nagvi-videoke during the game. Dapat di nila pinayagan yun, may image of professionalism pa din dapat yung PBA. Tapos wala pa silang pake kung na-hack yung All-Star voting nila. All of these things will turn off most fans.
Dapat kasi lagyan nila ng import ang pba na 6'10 to 7'1.. para maganda ang laban
Sana magkaroon na lang ng merger ang MPBL sa PBA pero home and away format na
My take Marcial is not forever ,PBA politics is not forever but will stay longer than Marcial, Money is always limited especially dun sa Small teams but creative minds doesnt stop,
Solution free agency draft sa All Filipino example - Al Hussaini ,Quinahan balik PBA
3 UAAP/ NCAA 1 conference contract parang kung baga sa estudyante OJT example Quiambao to Northport,Balunggay to Blackwater
Revamp the All Star game format suggestion
Young once (35up) vs. Young ones format (Rookies,Sophomores and Juniors
Yung mga manong na jan sa PBA na ayaw pa mag retire, bigay nyo na yung roster spot sa mga bata
Reavis, Kelly Williams, Norwood,Pringle,Ross
kahit matanda na yan nakaka contribute pa din mga yan except kay reavis
Retire na si Pingris boss
Kinda vague though. I think we all agree na kailangan pagandahin yung PBA as a product. It definitely needs much better marketing. How exactly do you do that? By finding the next Terrence Romeo? He's probably in Japan right now, or headed there. We don't have marketable stars because most of them are not home, which is another problem of the PBA.
I also kinda disagree with the point about pinoy fans not being able to appreciate serious Basketball talk. I think that's universal - the average fan of any team of any sport understands little more than "score more points than the other team!" It's why many NBA fans think less physicality = less defense. One contributing factor to the lack of serious pinoy Basketball fans is the lack of experts in Philippine sports media. The leading analysts and color commentators should not be people with degrees in Journalism who cover multiple sports, few of which they actually understand.
Tama ako ngq taga bicol pero pag naka tungtong ako sa metro manila matik nunuod ako pba hahaha lalo na ngayon onti nalng pati nq nunuod haha solid nayan magpa pic 😆. Tinqlo na ng MPBL yung PBA. At isa pa kasing problema yung hindi pag kinig nilq sa mga fans. Na umay na mga tao kakaantay ng pag babago.
If naglaro sa PBA sina Renz Abando, Kai Sott,o tsaka Dwight Ramos feel ko sila talaga ung may superstar aura imho
Tagal ko na talaga nirerequest na gawin na nilang home and away para kahit terrafirma may manunuood padin kasi may nirerepresent na lugar.
Para maging accessible din.
Feeling ko gine-gate keep nila yang teams sa PBA. Ano ba balita sa Chooks?
Kume Marcial does not know this :
NINGAS KUGON - the tendency to start something with great enthusiasm but then quickly lose interest or fail to follow through.
My wanted to advocate the change in a legal way however crossing the line is the last option to make it happen like what happened to Former CEO of the Luxury Brand Gucci, Maurizio Gucci who was g***ed down in March 1995. Afterwards, nag-bloom ang Gucci.
I think mas better na isang format na lang tas import laden tas balance ung trade tas may inv team like bay area bago sa paningin tsaka mas mababago ung laro kase mahihirapan ung mga locals naten.
Isa sa decline ng PBA ay ang presyo ng ticket at ang minimum wage... Di na nag adjust ung PBA pinamahal ung ticket di kinonsidira ang minimum wage...
Dapat isang season nlng kase. Mahabang gap, hindi ung next month umpisa na ulit bagong season, nakakaumay. Wala nang dating ung championship sa PBA hindi na ganon kalakas ung impact
Ag gwapo pala ni bakits!....
Te ikalma mo ang kiffy😂
@@sungodnigga15 whhaaaattt!!??
They never listen to fans. Walang pakialam sa tao, basta gusto nila, gusto nila. Kaya ayan.
May internet may TV na kasi madami na platform para makanood na nasa bahay ka lang tapos ppunta ka sa venue matrapik pa sana mura na lng ticket iimprove ang mga scoreboard pagandahin ang PBA
Option is idistribute nila yung PBA teams representing different major cities sa philippines.
Gagayahin nila mpbl? 😂
@@redlauro if it helps why not haha must madaming viewership at audience attendance pag ganun. mostly kase ang pinapanood ng fans lang ang ginebra at smb. Tsaka kase mas accessible din sa ibang fans sa ibang regions.
@redlauro ganyan din ginagawa ng ibang bansa sa mga basketball leagues nila, utakan lang yan, kasya naman sa malugi yung liga dahil nilangaw.
@@redlaurojapan, korea home and away format wala masama dun
umanib na lang sana sila sa MPBL
Sana gayahin nila soccer team sa Europe
Pag kulilat yung team sa League 1
Bababa sya sa League 2
At yung champion sa League 2 aakyat sa League 1
At sana libre lang yung league 2 pang marketing strategies ba na laging dumadayo sa mga probinsya or sa mga NCAA at UAAP basketball kasali sana at Visayas at Mindanao na university
Mag invest sila ng malalaking stadium sa Mindanao at Visayas region at Luzon provinces
Yung league 1
Sunday Wednesday Friday Saturday
Yung league 2
Monday Tuesday thursday
Ipalabas sa tv
Wag muna sila mag pambayad sa PBA app
Pagandahin ng PBA ang
League 2
Isali magagaling na team ng ibang liga gaya ng mpbl
Japan B league
CBA Thailand Indonesia Taiwan
Guest team para good entertainment
Short term plan: magbago ng marketing team. Makaluma na mga pag-iisip nila dyan. Long term plan: regionalize
Kung regionalize dapat Hindi hawak Ng politiko Yung mga team gaya Ng Manny Pacquiao basketball league na puro mayor, vice mayor ,governor, senador may Ari Ng teams
@@rheyvienvillanueva2854 siempre pag-aari pa rin ng mga kompanya
Battle of the SMC teams
cross league tourna PBA-MPBL. gandang promotion.
Itry din kaya nila iffree gen admission😂 kapag wala pa ding nanood, ala talaga. O kaya itie up nila sa mga products; ex 5 tansan ng gin bilog = 1 gen admission ticket etc.
Iconvince nila mga empleyado nila manood. smb at gsm dami emp nyan oh.
Naisip ko rin, part ng marketing, media training ng players. Ginagawa ng F1 yan sa junior driver programs nila. Tapos nakatulong yung Netflix drive to survive. Baka makatulong din na magka-off season PBA tapos gawa sila ng mga training camps for kids and top prospects to build generations of fans
I want to ride dun sa observation ni sir Ize. Na mentioned kasi na ung current market nya is na hi hit pa din ng PBA. But, i-add ko lang na since ang nature nung league is teams founded on brands and not on cities/places. So your fanbase per team would have no real or personal connection sa team. Cguro sa players yes, pwede pa na hatak mo ung fanbase just because andyan sa team mo ung favorite player ng mga tao (just as the case of T Romeo and Kyt). Going back dun sa teams founded on brands, PBA's whole business principle is earning off from the brands na nag form nung teams and d siya necessarily earning off dun sa Gate Attendance. They are already earning dun palang sa teams kasi these teams would be willing to spend much just to be in the PBA for the purpose of Brand Relevance and Advertising. Just as long may TV or SocMed coverage ung games ok na sa kanila kasi for these teams, na serve na ung purpose na bakit pumasok sila sa league. Teams are happy so PBA is happy kasi may willing and paying customers sila. Kaya nga three conferences in a year kasi to accomodate more playing time and more air time sa mga brands yan. Bonus na pag pumasok sa playoffs ung teams. PBA may or may not desire for more seats sold per game but ung laro kasi is as long as may paying teams bawi na sila to cover the league expenses.
Ano ang ibig sabihin mo ng spending teams? Ang mga brand mismo ang nagpapatakbo ng teams. Kung hindi kikita ang team, ang brand mismo ang sasalo sa lugi. Ok lng yung lugi kung sulit sa ads na hinahatak ng PBA. Pero kung masyadong malaki ang lugi, e di bakit pa sila sasali sa liga? May rason na nawala na ang Alaska Aces.
@@retrictumrectus1010 That's what I mean. These brands would pay for a team's franchise spot which in return PBA has the responsibility of marketing and provide a platform for these brands in a form of teams. Lesser tickets sold doesn't directly affect the brands or the team. As long as may TV coverage, SocMed coverage, or any other platform coverage, that in itself has a lot more reach and those brands are ok with it. Does it hurt PBA knowing that lesser people are buying tickets? I don't know. But the fact that PBA's stance has been still strong in keeping their strategies the same tells us something. That probably, they do not care gate attendance and that they're funds are not hurting.
It has been 2 decades too late. 4:01 remember Asi Taulava's retirement ceremony? Asi had a lot to thank for, the PBA had a lot to thank him, but he ended up thanking to the wind
I was able to watch PBA and MPBL, mas nae enjoy ko yung MPBL kasi sa format, yung lugar, yung tao pero quality players parin ang PBA mas enjoyable nga lang ang MPBL
Mas maliliit lang yung courts ng MPBL pero may inherent fanbase ka.
Naalala ko yung MBA dati
Napag iwanan na talaga ang PBA parang Nokia lang e kahit anong gawin di na makakasabay. Naging culture na rin lahat sa PBA
Yung tatay ko madalas manood ng PBA dati. Ngayon di na daw kase saksakan na daw ng dami yung Fil-Am.
i like yung last line ni Pow, they kept doing the same thing na hindi na applicable.
Matagal na ngstart mag-decline yung PBA. Sana magising na sila. Sayang yung liga. Magandang halimbawa yung bleague.
Face reveal ba to or nahuli lang ako?😂
Ung mismong format ng PBA (3-conference format) since 1975 pa yan. Kaya napag-iwanan na kasi ayaw nila mag-evolve. Pati ung issue ng parity mauumay ka na lang dahil same teams lang ang lumalaban sa championship.
PBA:Eat Bulaga / PVL:Showtime
Never let Willie Marcial cook again with the PBA 🔥🔥🔥
Kung ganto lang sana 😫
Remove yung 3 conferences gawin nalang 30 games per season 15 home 15 away parang ganun
Add ng home / away teams, kung nag wowork nga sa mbpl why not sa pba?
Remove import height limit, kaya nalulula tayo pag dating sa mga international tournaments e. Ex fiba world cup, fiba asia cup.
Add 2 imports per team, gayahin nalang rules ng ibang liga like bawal yung 2 imports pagsabayin sa court.
Hire ng foreign coaches, layo ng playstyle ng pinoy compare sa international coaches need natin ng wisdom nila playmaking drills etc
PBA kasi ay liga ng san miguel. sila nag co control kung kanino mapupunta ang isang superstar kaya nawala yung competitiveness ng PBA. 2012 pa ako huling nanood ng PBA sa araneta.
Sana mag partnership nalang ang PBA at MPBL. Ex: MPBA.
tas magiging commisioner yung kupal sa pba?.
Sa totoo lang, hindi ko alam kung may marketing sila, sobrang disjointed marketing mix nila o kaya kung produkto paguusapan, masaya na sila sa core benefit at pinabayaan na nila ang mga ibang level
dapat talaga balanse ang lahat ng mga team, di lahat ng magagaling nasa mga SMC team
Highly unlikely na gagayahin ng PBA ang NBA or MPBL, or yung naunang MBA. Mahina na ticket sales sa Manila so risk sa kanila na maglalaro sa ibang cities on a regular basis. Too many teams owned by one corporation. Should be one team, one group. Not sure how broadcast rights or ticket sales are distributed sa league. If evenly, then those with more teams get more revenue, which already makes it unbalanced.
1. Corruption between the two big corporate teams
2. Talent hoarding
3. No real superstar face of the league that entices even the casual people to watch ( ex. Lebron for the NBA )
4. PVL has clearly overtaken popularity among filipinos
5. MPBL has a better reach in the local community in terms of fans.
6. Garbage outdated transaction system.
Sayang di KO napanood nung Glory Days Ng PBA hayyy😢😢
I watched last Sunday's game. Daming tao pa din basta Ginebra just saying
ginebra lang ang madaming fans pero compared sa ibang team nilalangaw