HP ProDesk G1 Small Form Factor Upgrade Guide
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ม.ค. 2023
- The HP ProDesk G1 is an OEM PC from the Intel Haswell generation. They are cheap and easy to find on places such as eBay and at first glance seem quite boring. However they can be upgraded to offer better performance. In this video we will discuss upgrading the RAM, processor, storage, graphics card as well as various expansion cards and drive bays.
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This is exactly the type of pre-built I like. Very understated utilitarian design.
If they only dropped making proprietary sizes for everything they can produce internally or order cheaply. But both Dell and HP are hellbent on making custom motherboards, PSU's, cooling, leaving much more of their units ending as landfills once corporations replace these. And for no apparent reason, they keep some of the standard measures but change PSU headers or make them too long in one dimension, use slightly off-standard motherboards size even if mini ITX or mATX would fit perfectly
@@netiturtle 0.01% of people know what you're talking about. That's why.
@@netiturtle Agree +1000. As somebody who has a kink of turning old SFF/DT PC's into gaming machines. The nail to the coffin for me was getting a dell optiplex and finding out they even had proprietary fan headers...
@@netiturtle Because they want you to go to them for repairs. Or, if they no longer provide parts, simply purchase a new machine and toss the old in the landfill. Recurring revenue streams 🙂.
I sold an i5 version of this machine a few weeks ago. As always with HP business-class machines I was impressed with the many paths to upgrade and the build quality. SSD, 8GB ram, complete setup with 1080p monitor, keyboard and mouse for $150 USD. The young lady I sold it to was thrilled to have it.
This is the type of video I miss from the rest of the tech tuber sphere. Thank you Phil. It hit the spot!
It's amazing what you can squeeze into that form factor now
I really like these machines and the Elitedesk 800 (which is basically identical internally). I managed a fleet of about 300 of them at my previous job, the hardware quality and ease of service is very good, and the failure rate was very low (maybe 2-3 out of the 300 that wasn't caused by users). I had a couple I used at home & gave to family when they were replaced at work, and they're still in daily use to this day.
Great job explaining and showing all the different capabilities for machines like this, now that they are widely available cheaply on the 2nd hand market due to enterprises updating. I would say one of these machines with a few key upgrades is much better value than most low budget new machines.
If buying one now I would perhaps try to get the next model with a 6th gen CPU and DDR4 memory.
I still love how Haswell CPU-s are so popular and platform has lived so long.
And more motherboards should implement the clear cmos button, which avoids taking out battery in hard to reach placement
With adapters / adapter cards etc, the versatility of these older PCs can make the useful again in a modern setup. Thanks again Phil for this upload 🥰🥳🎉👍😇
Absolutely!
I did something very similar with the Dell Optiplex 9010 sff. Came with an i7-3770, I installed 16 gigs of ram, and added a low profile gtx 1650. Used it in my living room with my entertainment center. Sometimes I take it to my parents place if I plan on staying for a bit. Really solid build for its size and age of parts.
I did the same thing but i picked up an i7-3770s and had to upgrade to 32gb of ram and a radeon card. put holoiso on it and its great.
@@worldgate989 what Radeon card do you recommend?
@@victorfigueroa9385 rx6400 low profile
Awesome breakdown of the potential upgrades to this machine. Thank you!
that's the kinda video I love so much about this channel
cheers phil have a great weekend man!!!
I built this pc exactly 1 year ago still runs great built this for my younger brother for editing and some gaming as of his age.
Core i7-4790K
MSI GTX NAVIDA 4GB 1050 ti GPU
32GB RAM
1TB HARD DRIVE
1TB SSD
this all fit and work. The ssd fits using blue screws i got off ebay for £3.99 fit like a dream no issues.
Only thing i did add is a wifi adapter.
Making SFF PCs even greater with Phil!
A wonderful job on the video! I was deciding between this system and a Lenovo but this video has me sold on the HP. Thanks for such a clear and informative video!
I have a few of these. I turn them into emulator machines with e9173 radeon cards and on my next step down I5-2400 machine, I put XP on it, used snappy driver and use a gt 740. I love these machines.
That icy dock is the best, so simple to swap in 2.5” SATA SSDs and HDDs easily for quick data transfer or multi-booting with separate bootloaders.
Have it in a 3.5” to 5.25” adapter to fill an empty slot where an optical drive would go.
And since the front side of the inserted disk is visible, one can easily put small labels onto the disks, so you always know what’s currently inserted.
I recently purchased the 800 G1 SFF for $33 US because it came with the I7 4790 CPU and this video is packed with great information and cool upgrades I didn't know about before. I love this channel man! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise, much appreciated. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Phil. I love these kind of Videos. I have an HP Elite Desk 800 with an I5 6500 and a GT1030. That 1650 looks like a good upgrade
Great to hear!
Yes, I always loved this compact machine that you can upgrade to a lot faster machine in all little space! Wow!
Always love watching videos of prebuild SFF PCs getting overkill upgrades. In an odd way, it's like a comfy watch for me.
Glad to hear it!
These are my favorite kinds of videos.
Great vid, keep them coming.
I work for University of london as an AV Tech and was allowed to nab one of these a couple of years ago. Using it as a media server. Works great, just wish there was more space for storage.
I love upgrading these type of small form-factor
And other desktop variance
I've just seen 5 seconds and i already put my Like... thanks for the video, interesting af as always
I'm happy user of the ProDesk 600 G2 mini. Tiny and newer version of this one. It has a Skylake processor and both BIOS/MBR as UEFI/GPT support. I started at full legacy mode with Windows 7 and now I'm on UEFI/GPT mode with Windows 11. It only uses a little bit of energy which helps a lot as it is in use as a small game/web server.
Glad to see that HP has made their ProDesk machines better, even if those are DDR3 machines.
The Prodesk 400 machines I used to support were prone to hard motherboard failures. We'd replace at least four a week for our customer. All under warranty but the sites would scream why they couldn't have their Lenovos back.
I really like these ProDesk machines. I bought one a couple of months ago with the i5 4570 for $44 US shipped. They are more commonly in the $60 to $100 range, but that's still a good deal if you are looking for a small form factor computer at an affordable price.
My most recent project is a Shuttle H170 mini PC that I got just as cheap with an i3 6300. There are so many good deals on 3rd through 6th gen Intel machines nowadays, and the performance is still completely usable.
You are right 🙂
Yep you can still game fairly decently on these systems. My daughter had my old i5 4690 16gb ddr3 combined with an rtx 3060. Worked great. Now my youngest has it paired with a gtx 1070.
ah yes, love these series return to OEM machines.
Phil!!! Happy Friday buddy 😀
There is Mount Adapters to convert CPU Coolers from a Threaded Screw Mount to Push Pin Mounts & Vice Versa. I have used them more than once so far with no issues but your results might vary.
Hope you don't mind me saying this but I love watching your channel as ASMR. And these types of videos are my favorite. Personally, I will never buy these proprietary nightmares ever again but I like watching people fiddle with them for some odd reason.
I like that you mentioned Icy Dock. They make some really useful products, and I always have one of their hot swap bays on my computer because it’s useful for things like transferring data from one PC to another or for having different OSes you can swap in and out.
Dual or triple boot
I did this build I think just before Covid hit. I went for a used 10050ti which runs pretty well for this system.
Handy upgrade guide. This would be perfect for a lot of uses. Sadly in some markets sellers are too greedy when it comes to used PCs
Check your local dump or electronics recyclers. I literally dug 2 old 4th gen teacher machines out of a dumpster, fully working.
Recently got the same Pc just G2 variant added i7-6700 and 16gb ram and Rx 6400. Works great. Total price added up to 400 Euros. Great machine for the price small and efficient.
We must be on the same wavelength. I ordered one of these last month and they shipped me a barebones by mistake, they let me keep it and then sent me the one I ordered with a i7 4770 and 8gb of ram+ 250 gb hdd. The other one I wanted to use as a *free* pc build so I bought a 5 dollar core i3 4150, spent 18 dollars on four 2gb sticks, paid 20 dollars for a r7 250 and used a 10 dollar spinning hard drive I got off ebay. I'm dual booting windows XP and ubuntu 22.04 and it runs like a dream.
Awesome 😍
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Thank you 😍
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i have a couple of these machines. i use them for LAN parties with some of my friends. we play some older retro games and such on them. easy to setup / clone and then restore the backup to multiple of them as they are all the same hardware.
Some third party coolers can work with a tiny bit of modification. Just think "out of the box". Rotate some retention brackets. Bend a little here and there ;-)
Great video as always!!!
That's one practical machine!
Like the SSD options you found.
To bad, folks don't like front bays nowadays...
We sold more than a hundred used HP SFF Prodesk and Elitedesk PCs of various generations, all of them work like a charm. The HP 8300 SFF is useful if you want an Ivy Bridge PC with USB 3.0 which is fully compatible with Windows XP, Windows 10 and Windows 11.
Some of our customers added a Geforce 1030, 1630 or a 1650, as shown in this video. Works like a charm. The older Elitedesk series requires an extra fan to cool the Geforce 16xx series. All kind of expansion cards work fine as well, including PCIe to NVMe adapters.
I kinda want one of these.
The perfect balance between cheapto upgrade and modern enough to support VR if upgraded enoug.
For crazy upgrades, there's SilverStone FPS01-C for slim drive bay that got m.2 SATA slot, USB-C port and (micro)SD-card reader.
Nice find!
A few upgrades, install DosBox and XP /98se virtual machines, paint it and you've got a PC classic to go next to your game consoles lol
This needs more upvotes
Whatsa' console? 😛
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@@dallesamllhals9161 🤣🤣🤣 I miss the old days when gamer could join hands and sign kumbaya and enjoy the love of gaming together...
@@JohnSmith-xq1pz C64 vs other 8 bits! Amiga vs other 16 bits? And so on...
When WERE the times you ramble about?
Great video. But when (and how) did you put the graphics card in? (I wanna see)
Thanks for the video. Would be great to find a way to convert these into rack mount/rack mount case.
If you need 4K video decode/ encode and such, the Nvidia P400/600/620/1000 might be a good option for low profile, low power htpc.
I just bought an Elitedesk 800 G1 SFF. It's a shame that Noctua doesn't make a 70mm fan. What brand of 70mm fan do you recommend?
I have this model and have added a PCIe 2.5 GBe Network Card and PCIe NVME Adapter. Both work very well. My Hard Drive with the OS is a Samsung SSD 500 Gig for fast loading.
for more advanced users willing to risk it, disabling patches for spectre/meltdown can help squeeze out extra performance
and for any one else looking to get into repurposing one of these older machines, make sure you know what you're getting into with the parts included; an i7 back in the day was largely a waste of money over an i5 for many users, but can make all the difference today with the extra cache and threads being necessary to make more modern games playable, and i3s of the era might have been perfectly fine for everyday tasks but can be a bit rough for today's standards outside of niche use cases where a Haswell i3 will still make for an awesome homelab router, or dedicated retro gaming/emulation machine.
Great video ^^
hello i neeed your help i cant eject the graphic card feel so solid should i press that black tip in face of the feet of the pc ?
I have both an SFF ProDesk (Win10 Pro) and an SFF EliteDesk (Win10 Home) from HP. Each has a 4th generation i5 processor (Haswell) at 2.3 Mhz. The EliteDesk G2 has only 8 GB of DDR4 and a 256GB HDD. The ProDesk G2 has 16 GB of DDR4 and a 516 SSD. But I like both of them. On a whim, I also bought a USFF HP EliteDesk G2 with a Haswell running at 2.7 Mhz and a 516 SSD running alongside 16 GB of DDR3. But it's actually the fastest of the three and was priced exactly in the middle of the other two ($199, $219, and $249). I'm happy with all 3. Can't wait to do regular maintenance and upgrades on such simple but well built machines. (Bought them all Reconditioned, at different times and months within a four-month span between December 2019 and March 2020, from TigerDirect.)
Cool video!
I recently received this computer from a familiar.
I want to convert this as a NAS, I already have 1 ssd (that one is not attached to any screw, is just floating with the cables lol), so I wanted to add 2 HDD of 1 Tera each, I see the first bay clearly for 1 but I don’t see for the other, can you telling me where should I put the other HDD? Or if I should use an adapter?.
Thanks!
These HPs are great value, so I'm sure we'd all like another video of a later model. I recently re-housed a HP ProDesk 600 G1 SFF in a standard size case (DeepCool MACUBE 110 MATX) for someone who wanted something with a glass door and some RGB. Pretty easy because the motherboard holes lined up with the new case. Kept the exist power supply, but could have upgraded to a standard power supply if I bought an adaptor cable. Perhaps you could do a re-housing video of a later model HP?
Hp 600s g3s (6th/7th gen) are even easier to recase, wide itx sized board (16x on the bottom tho so wont fit most itx cases), all holes line up perfectly in atx/matx towers, no need for adapters for anything (takes normal 24 pin psu, front panel has pinouts online, usb2/audio headers are standard)
Thanks for the video, maybe consider upgrading a HP 400 G5 SSF! It comes with Intel Core i5-8500 + which would be good for your living room needs?
What's the NIC model name of this machine? intel 210AT or Realtek 8111Hor Broadcom Net extreme series? it's difficult to buy the secondhand machine with every spec meets my needs.
What I love about those ejectable SSD's is that you can make the top one your BOOT drive and swap the operating system as easy as a ROM cartridge in a games console. Eject Windows 10, slot in Ubuntu. Eject that, slot in Windows 7. Wrecked the OS? Reload a new image. No fear to mess around because there is very little down time.
Hey bro, @philscomputerlab, where is the links to buy this pieces?? I don't found the HHD adaptador in AliExpress, someone can help me? And on the another hand, is not possible to put a Xeon in this motherboard instead the Intel i7th?? or you are preparing another video? Thanks in advance.
Hi, I have a prodesk 800 g1 16Gb. I added a gt 1030 and it handles 4k video easily. I've been using it for about a year now and I have had no problems. Incidentally, you can drive 3 monitors directly if you do this.
What is the pad you used on the CPU in place of thermal paste and is it worth getting
I have one of these an I love it however its keeps having start up issues. I've redone some codes in the bios. Also reinstalled windows but now it says it prevents a start up because of a hardware issue. Cant figure anything out but hopefully I'll be able to fix it and start getting things upgraded! Any suggestions on a possible solution?
Great video. I thinking about doing the same to a elitebook my work was going to throw in the dumpster. I was wondering what size thermal pad are you using?
30mm
Hi there can you tell me please the specific icyssd dock you are using please
I love the Z240 SFF versions of these HP boxes. They have V3/V5 Xeon E3s, ECC support, and better drive bays that don't require sleds. They also have thoughtful touches like 4 extra of those hard to find screws, along with the standard SATA drive style screws. Diskless boxes with 16GB memory and a Quadro K620 are under $100 on the bay.
I have one of these which I bought from eBay for £60. I'm very happy with it for the price.
Most of the Z-Series workstations also have surprisingly good RAID controllers. They make really nice NAS boxes or just a reliable place to store large amounts of data like videos.
I have HP prodesk 600 g1 sff i7 4790.
Is it suitable for ArchiCAD 20???
I've been using what is basically the Dell equivalent of this PC (4th Gen Intel Core, etc) as my son's online school PC for a few years now. I bought mine in the spring of 2019 for $99 US via Ebay. Upgraded the RAM to 16 GB, installed a SATA SSD and a Nvidia 750 TI card that I already had. It's quiet, has been completely dependable and for my son's school work and his light gaming (Roblox, Among Us, etc) it's been excellent. At this point I'm not looking to possibly replace it until the summer of 2024 unless it were to have a major hardware failure before then.
Awesome 😎
I think you forgot the links to the componets you show in the video ( cooler, RAM, SSD, graphics etc)
Have you also tried to use throttle stop for undervolting the cpu? This could maybe save you some extra watts.
Also the RTX A2000 could be an option for the gpu. Should be overkill, but sometimes you can get a used one "relatively" cheap. Would be interesting to see how this combo performs.
That A2000 has been mentioned a few times, but I don't have one. The other option is using a desktop GPU with the case open and PCIe ribbon cable.
Got one today as a hobby machine , "$50" NZ " Great vid ,, subbed .. 🙂
speaking of low prpfile gpu there is also the nvidia rtx A2000 and various cards from the radeon pro family, which are all valid options for upgrades here
Could you post a link to the USB 3 add in card you used in this upgrade im trying to find a good rated USB 3 add in card but Amazon ones are less then 1k reviews
Yea I just bought generic one. Look out for: Full height and half height brackets included. Some need external power (SATA or Molex), others do not (I prefer these, neater cabling inside the case.
i have a hp 800 g1 i5 4th gen and 8 ram ddr3 and 240w pwersupply is gtx 750 ti work whit this power supply whitout any usus?
where are the links to the various adapters?
I use the little bigger version G1 800 here which came with an i3 4130 and 4GB of DDR3-1600 and a 1TB mechanical drive. Well now i am using an i7 4675T in there - 35WTDP and 2Ghz base clock, a 6 and 8TB mechanical drive plus 128GB SSD and 4 sticks of DDR3 1600 in 4GB size. This machine is the heart of my retro-room where i do my research on, watching TH-cam and store my archived files on. I dont miss a thing on this PC, its fast, silent, reliable, rock solid, using the Intel HD graphics and the internal network connection. Does the job for me 100% well as it is now. No dedicated GPU needed in my case. I still love the Haswell generation very much. Cheap, affordable power for daily use.
Is that a fan header next to the CMOS Battery?
Hey Phil, I have a question:
I have an HP Compaq Elite 8000, what specific ATX cases and adapters would I need in order to be able to move the motherboard as well as the proprietary PSU into a new case? Thanks!
No idea, not covered in this video and really wouldn't recommend it.
@@philscomputerlab Why? Is it because the proprietary PSU or is it because the ATX standoffs won't fit a modern case?
Hi, can you write type of cpu again?
Can i install windows 11 with this CPU?
I own a very simular computer(800 g1 I5), thus I was wondering, how impactful is dual channel ram. Also I have a magic device attached at the back above the usb and audio ports, any clue what it does. It has no ports.
Good point and something I can add to future tests. I don't have any SFF machines at the moment, but keep my eyes out for deals in Australia. Lately we got some Z440 and Z640 workstations so expect some content about those machines!
Awesome vid! Few things; 1) if you get desperate, you can get a PSU adapter to run a more powerful PSU, I have done this and put the mobo in a bigger case. 2) Depending on the size and position of the BIOS chip, you can get a cheap programmable chip reader of aliexpress which may allow you to manually flash a fresh BIOS. 3) There are adapters you can 3D print to allow for traditional coolers! Check thingiverse!
hey mate what do you think about the usdt version?
Hey Phil, can you recommend low profile EAX sound cards for an SFF windows XP machine?
For PCI there is the is the regular X-Fi card, but good luck finding the bracket! For PCIe I think we are out of luck. I do want to explore USB options but at the moment the onboard Realtek is actually ok, you do even get EAX support, just not the highest level and of course not to the same quality but better than nothing.
How about power supply? Shoud I need to change ? Tks
I wonder if this would run a v3 Xeon processor? The E3-1270 v3 is a tad faster than the i7-4770.
I have 2 Haswell era Lenovo Thinkcentre sff pc's that where thrown away. Might as well upgrade it and use it as a daily driver. I currently use an Intel i7 nuc, but although it works well, I'm just not very enthousiast about it.
Hi im new to computers as this was my first one, but my computer has been having many problems and when i looked at this video i realized I don't have the tiny green thing next to the 4 blue ports. Would this impact the pc in any way? Also the error code my PC keeps giving me is 0xc0000225, if you could give me any help it would be greatly appreciated.
How much power it uses on idle would like to use this as server
Can you tell us what kind of CPU cooler that is and where it can be found?
It's the stock CPU cooler, I didn't change it out.
Very nice project, it is nice to see that Intel i7 4th gen still can give us some fun
It sure is!
I recently did a very similar build with the Radeon RX6400. I got lucky with an HP ProDesk 400 G6 w/9th gen i5 at around 170USD. I have to say these G1 boxes still pack a punch and you can easily get them for less than 50USD on ebay for the i5 model.
What rating is your PSU? I have a ProDesk 400 G2.5 which only has a 180watt PSU and I'm struggling to find a higher wattage PSU that will fit
I have one of these with an i5 4590 haswell refresh cpu
Hello, nice video explain! I have hp 800 G2 sff i5-6500 ddr4 200watts 80plus platinum, what gpu is compatible fo this pc?? Thanks to help me, salute from Uruguay!
Officially, check the maintenance manual from HP. Unofficially the card needs to be low profile and maybe single SLO depending on your machine layout.
Hi Phil which make of thermal pads did you use on your systems, thanks?
I can't remember 😅
Phil, I've been working with the somewhat smaller HP ProDesk 400 G2.5, which doesn't have quite the same upgrade flexibiity for various reasons, but here's a question for you: I'd like to fit the system with an i5 4570 but the BIOS refuses to allow this, stating that only CPUs with 65W or lower TDP are allowed. Do you know if there's a way to bypass this restriction? I originally bought the machine because it came with an i7 4790S (which I put as an upgrade into my main HTPC), so I'd hoped to move the old 4570 into the HP, spec it up a bit and then sell it on to make back at least some of the original cost (the G2.5 was 55 UKP total).
In other ways though it is certainly more limited. With the system disk and DVDRW connected there are no spare SATA ports, no spare SATA power connectors either, and the main PCIe slot is right next to the PSU chassis so only single-slot GPUs would be viable. It came with a 500GB HDD, which I can replace with an SSD of course, but only 4GB/1600 RAM (just two slots). If I can get the 4570 working then I'll do up the rest of the system (change the RAM to 16GB, etc.), but otherwise I'll just put in a basic i3, add an extra 4GB, change the storage to an SSD, fit a simple Quadro 600 and leave it at that. Would be nice to get the 4570 working though if possible. Any thoughts?
Ah well, the 4790S in the HTPC was at least a resounding success, better performance but lower power usage. It has an ASUS Z97I-Plus, 750 Ti, 2TB NVMe (SN570), 1TB SATA boot (850 Pro), works very well, draws 45W while idle without any undervolting, etc.
Btw, there's a nicer front 2-bay trayless hot swap unit one can get, the Startech HSB220SAT25B (code B001CYZC38 on Amazon UK); one can't see the drives when installed and the buttons are more flush to the chassis, though it is more expensive (or a slightly cheaper alternative is the SilverStone SST-FS202B). I didn't know about those dummy optical cases though, to hold a 2.5" device, that's cool.
Without having looked more into this issue, I would say your chances are limited as HP will want to make sure that the CPU is within the power limit of what the machine can handle. Also thanks for pointing out this G2.5 model, I wasn't aware of such a model. Seems to be an in-between model, with more options than the Ultra SFF machines. As for using it as a HTPC, it's the lack of modern video decoding that's the main issue. They can do H264 but no chance with VP9 and AV1. Newer SFF machines are slowly coming onto the used market, so there is always something new around the corner.
@@philscomputerlab Thanks for the reply! I thought perhaps what one could do is set a power or voltage limit in the BIOS, in which case it would work fine, but cest la vie. I've ordered a cheap i3 4170 (6 UKP) to put in the system instead, that will suffice for selling it on, though just with 8GB, SSD and Quadro 600, a basic tasks machine for 25 or whatever (it came with Win10). In the meantime I'll keep an eye out for a bargain Z87/Z97 mbd, perhaps even one I could repair.
Re using the G2.5 as an HTPC, I only bought it as a means of obtaining a 4790S for a reasonable price. My actual HTPC is a far better box, as I say with an ASUS Z97I-Plus, 750 Ti, 2TB NVMe, BDRW, etc. I'm not bothered about VP9/AV1 for the moment, my TV is only 1080p. If/when I move up to 4K then I'll look for a better GPU; I had been considering a Zotac 1070 Mini, but maybe that's not new enough for decent 4K support. Alas the realm of small form factor or low profile GPUs has been poorly supplied in recent years, there are few decent options, with products like the 3050 being rather lame and too expensive. Maybe I'll obtain a 1050 Ti instead at some point, I won a Gigabyte low profile model on ebay for my brother's HTPC (Ryzen 2600X), works very well.
Phil, can you show how to fit a standard lowpowered videocard into these small form factor pc with a pcie raiser?
You plug in both ends of the riser cable and find a place to set the video card. I believe the reason it wasn't in the video is because there's no elegant place to mount it.
You cannot fit it neatly and I used it for the purpose of this video to test the games as I didn't want to buy a low profile card specifically for this video.
@@harleyn3089 You right, i saw a guy that mount the card outside the case doing a mod but maybe isn't aesthetic, and placed it inside is also tricky and the rear connections wouldn't fit in. Thanks for reply!
@@philscomputerlab Ok Phil, I understand, so the only way would be doing an extreme modding on the original case to mounting the card outside or better (without destroying the case) taking off the hardware and making a diy case, but is a lot of work hehe. Thanks for reply!
Is there a possibility to upgrade to Windows 11 version 24H2 ?
I have a love / hate relationship with hp and dell machines.. lol. They are great for everyday computing but as they age, finding drivers ect. sometimes becomes a battle when the manufacturer removes them from their site. I too have used many of those extra devices to add more functionality, Icy dock has great products that are worth it.
What did you use an external PSU for that GTX 1650 cause I know that OEM one wont.
No external PSU used 😊