The moment you said that you would exchange the wire on the Zniper I knew what would happen. 🙈 But thanks God it's not only me. 😂 The only one way to change the wire without loosing the washers is to *push* it out with a wire of the same diameter. Then use the indoor wire to push out the intermediate wire in the opposite direction. The moment you *pull* you have lost.
That was in my mind too 😂 From stock it comes only with one washer. I tried two washers too. Annoying job to get it done. Maybe i should ask Michael Mayer what’s the goal behind that.
@@ColoursOfDan02 Although I'm just gettting back into archery, I've been involved in RC fort a number of years, and RC racing for a few years. I completely understand the "difficjulty" of getting washers (or, in the case of RC, 'spacers' or 'shims') into very tiny spaces. When trying to places shims as thin as 0.5mm between a spacing of less thsan 1mm, it can sometimes take quite a while...and many, many attempts.
Finally, a barebow series! Thank you for that. Also, I rather watch you as a “non-expert” than “real” experts that don't explain anything. I hope you go into every detail and make it a mega series, specialize in barebow and compete with John Demmer III one day :)) Keep shooting videos and barebows. Cheers from Germany.
What I really like about the way Jake shoots barebow is his release and follow through. I surely cannot be alone in finding even the highest level of barebow archery almost unwatchable purely because about 95% of archers have a more or less dead release. It makes me cringe and wonder how the hell they are so good despite their horrible technique!
lol funny thing is a few top barebow guys ive chatted with on social media talk junk on jake... they see him as a threat in reality .. i cant wait till jake takes his skills to the Lancaster barebow classic and waxes the competition... jakes dedicated his life to this point to recurve archery and has mastered his craft...
oh wow. I've had the same thought. their anchor looked solid, but their alignment, release and follow through just wasn't as immaculate as I'd hoped for medalists. but I guess they were consistent enough to score and had good instincts/sense to beat the other athletes. really can't wait to see what former recurve athletes can bring to the barebow scene. maybe we'll see if barebow does require a significantly different form compared to olympic recurve.
@@blackriflex39 he'd definitely train all out to maximize his competitiveness and would have no time to produce this channel!!!! Be careful what you wish for. 🤣
Great Video Jake. Clean run through set up and it's good for us to be exposed to challenges like the wire change. Loved the Centre-Shot section and camera centred. (English/ Australian spelling on centre vs center) I shoot recurve but would like to try out barebow later ...think I'll keep my low anchor point aswell. Bow looks killer. Get those groups. Would be cool to see an Olympic Recurve Archer's bare bow release in slow motion (high frame rate)
I use the longer wire on my zniper, it has better clearance for larger fletchings on indoor arrows, but I don’t bother changing it for outdoor as I had the same issue with the short wire not been under the plunger.
Perfect timing--how did you know I was thinking about indoors? I have a 27" ATF-X and have put dampers with 4oz weights in both the mounting holes behind the limb pockets with 5oz weights in the front bushings. The dampers take a lot of the shot vibration out of the riser. I really like having weight top and bottom of my riser. And yes, my riser does pass through the 122mm ring. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
@ 16:58 To clear the bottom limb bolt I put a 1/4" thick steel washer between the lower weight and the bushing, otherwise too much weight is transferred up the riser for my liking. Nobody has said that's illegal so far!!
@JakeKaminskiArchery Do you have any suggestions for limb alignment for folks who may not have a stabilizer? All of the videos I've seen on limb alignment require the stabilizer as part of the setup. I suppose I could always purchase a cheap $30 one just for alignment purposes but just curious if there is a method that could be reliably used with barebow only equipment. Thanks!
Jake, I'm wondering why you choose these W&W setup over Hoyt's or Gillo's for barebow? Those two are among who offer specific barebow setup, especially the risers. Is there any particular reason regarding your barebow preference? Do you find it better rocking with W&W compared to other brands?
@jake : around 7:00 - why do you want to have the wire under the button? Try it as it is now, it is like the "overdraw effect" of compounds. I see nothing wron in havin a cm or 1,5 beween Button und Wire. OK, you explained at 8:00. Yet I do not see that critical, but I might have smaller crawls than you.
Silly newby question: does stringing and unstringing a bow get it off tune? And should I take it apart if I'm using it weekly? I have an aluminum riser with bamboo/glass limbs (in case it makes a difference).
Jake, i also intend to keep my indoor arrows uncut so far (which gives me a length of 36"), but i wonder if this is in conflict to where the front node of the arrow sits in relation to the contact point of the plunger. Isn't there a 'riskt' that the front node sits too far in front of the plunger (and if so, what are the possible consequences / negative impacts and is there a chance to compensate for it beside cutting the arrow?)
Hi jake. If my ATA draw length is 31,75 should I stick with 25 inch riser or should I switch to 27 inch? And will you review Hoyt xd riser and Axia limbs because I think about buying it?
jake i know this isnt related to this video but im looking for outdoor arrows and in your video on building your wife arrows you used the easton inspire . then in a later video you told about changing arrows... im curious as the reason for the change? i have the exact draw weight and was about to copy your setup you decided on for her but before i buy i was wanting to see what you said... what arrows did she ultimately settle on? thanks Jake youve definitely made me a better archer
@@gavincarmody3302 did you by chance catch what arrow they decided on? im looking for 18 to 50 meters being my average distance and want a arrow that wont disappoint
I'm really a novice and a DIY'er, but I drilled a piece of aluminum angle and used a bolt the same thread as the stabilizer hole to hold the bow. I tightened the bolt to the bow, tightened the bolt with a nut to the angle and clamped the angle to my bench.
If you only shoot barebow you are not going to have a stabilizer to help you align the limbs. I am assuming that many cheap stabilizers are not as straight as one would want. I refuse to spend the money for a high quality one that will be used only infrequently. Aside from the beiter blocks, does anyone know of any inexpensive aids to limb alignment?
Thank you for responding. If it was not for you, I doubt that I would have continued with the sport. I was a frustrated tyro when you launched your channel. Best wishes.@@JakeKaminskiArchery
"Damper's corresponding verb is dampen, which means to deaden, restrain, or depress. ... A dampener is someone or something that dampens. So damper and dampener can both refer to one that deadens sound vibrations."
Agreed. in RC, Tamiya calls the shocks "dampers". And, in cycling, bicycle/frame manufacrturers call the 'elastics' inserted into frames (such as the Specialized Roubaix, Pinarello Dogma, etc) "dampeners". Two different words...with the same meaning.
Dampen seems to be reserved more for non-physical things, like someone’s mood. In engineering it’s always been damp and damper for physical attenuation, such as vibration, shock loads, or oscillations. I wonder if this is one of those cases where more and more people have been using dampener overtime so they added it to the dictionary. An older American Heritage Dictionary we have (1985) does not have an entry for dampener, but includes it at the end of the entry for dampen, used as a noun for making something wet. It also explicitly defines damp and damper as used in the engineering sense, but not dampen.
I only use one washer in my zniper rest. I really don't know how it is even possible to have two. With the one i dont get any vibration. I need a bow clamp, but the one you have is $266 Canadian! Thats expensive 😩.
The moment you said that you would exchange the wire on the Zniper I knew what would happen. 🙈 But thanks God it's not only me. 😂 The only one way to change the wire without loosing the washers is to *push* it out with a wire of the same diameter. Then use the indoor wire to push out the intermediate wire in the opposite direction. The moment you *pull* you have lost.
That was in my mind too 😂 From stock it comes only with one washer. I tried two washers too. Annoying job to get it done. Maybe i should ask Michael Mayer what’s the goal behind that.
Those Zniper washers are the bane of my existence.
My zniper had a wobble, I saw it only had 1 washer so figured putting a 2nd in would fix it and be a quick job...... 30 minutes later I had it done.
@@ColoursOfDan02 Although I'm just gettting back into archery, I've been involved in RC fort a number of years, and RC racing for a few years. I completely understand the "difficjulty" of getting washers (or, in the case of RC, 'spacers' or 'shims') into very tiny spaces. When trying to places shims as thin as 0.5mm between a spacing of less thsan 1mm, it can sometimes take quite a while...and many, many attempts.
Finally, a barebow series! Thank you for that. Also, I rather watch you as a “non-expert” than “real” experts that don't explain anything.
I hope you go into every detail and make it a mega series, specialize in barebow and compete with John Demmer III one day :))
Keep shooting videos and barebows. Cheers from Germany.
It’s always damper. Dampers basically absorb energy and distribute it somewhere else. Glad you want to say it right! Way too many people say dampener.
Just put Jake’s R Core grip on my Satori. Really, really nice.
What I really like about the way Jake shoots barebow is his release and follow through. I surely cannot be alone in finding even the highest level of barebow archery almost unwatchable purely because about 95% of archers have a more or less dead release. It makes me cringe and wonder how the hell they are so good despite their horrible technique!
lol funny thing is a few top barebow guys ive chatted with on social media talk junk on jake... they see him as a threat in reality .. i cant wait till jake takes his skills to the Lancaster barebow classic and waxes the competition... jakes dedicated his life to this point to recurve archery and has mastered his craft...
oh wow. I've had the same thought. their anchor looked solid, but their alignment, release and follow through just wasn't as immaculate as I'd hoped for medalists.
but I guess they were consistent enough to score and had good instincts/sense to beat the other athletes. really can't wait to see what former recurve athletes can bring to the barebow scene.
maybe we'll see if barebow does require a significantly different form compared to olympic recurve.
@@blackriflex39 he'd definitely train all out to maximize his competitiveness and would have no time to produce this channel!!!! Be careful what you wish for. 🤣
@@kevinbrown5321 .... or Howling Wolf trying to flick a wasp off his chin ?
@Chris Shaw that's it! Lol
Great Video Jake. Clean run through set up and it's good for us to be exposed to challenges like the wire change. Loved the Centre-Shot section and camera centred.
(English/ Australian spelling on centre vs center)
I shoot recurve but would like to try out barebow later ...think I'll keep my low anchor point aswell.
Bow looks killer.
Get those groups.
Would be cool to see an Olympic Recurve Archer's bare bow release
in slow motion (high frame rate)
I use the longer wire on my zniper, it has better clearance for larger fletchings on indoor arrows, but I don’t bother changing it for outdoor as I had the same issue with the short wire not been under the plunger.
Perfect timing--how did you know I was thinking about indoors?
I have a 27" ATF-X and have put dampers with 4oz weights in both the mounting holes behind the limb pockets with 5oz weights in the front bushings. The dampers take a lot of the shot vibration out of the riser. I really like having weight top and bottom of my riser. And yes, my riser does pass through the 122mm ring.
Looking forward to the rest of the series.
Perfect timing! I've got new arrows on the way... going to get set for this years indoor 18. Looking forward to this series!
perfect timing my new gear for indoor came in last week and i'm currently tuning. Thanks for sharing your knowledge Jake
Good to see you with a barebow again : )
Hi Jake, WA's Rulebook says 'dampeners'. Please keep up those excellent posts. Cheers from Portugal.
@ 16:58 To clear the bottom limb bolt I put a 1/4" thick steel washer between the lower weight and the bushing, otherwise too much weight is transferred up the riser for my liking. Nobody has said that's illegal so far!!
I was wondering where you got that black weight, I didn't realize you were developing it. Looking forward to get one.
Hey Jake! Which one did you prefer at barebow shooting? The ATF oder the Meta DX?
@JakeKaminskiArchery Do you have any suggestions for limb alignment for folks who may not have a stabilizer? All of the videos I've seen on limb alignment require the stabilizer as part of the setup. I suppose I could always purchase a cheap $30 one just for alignment purposes but just curious if there is a method that could be reliably used with barebow only equipment. Thanks!
Never underestimate the power of MacGyvering something to work like that rest 🤣🤣
*Do a shootout on 70m with aluminum arrows and xceed-velos combo.*
Jake, I'm wondering why you choose these W&W setup over Hoyt's or Gillo's for barebow? Those two are among who offer specific barebow setup, especially the risers. Is there any particular reason regarding your barebow preference? Do you find it better rocking with W&W compared to other brands?
Jake doesn't have a Gillo (he borrowed Ryan's for his reviews). W&W just sponsored their first barebow archer (Chrissy Lyons).
Thanks for your videos. Do you have one the explains crawl? I am new to all of this.
How to String Walk a Barebow | Barebow Archery String Crawling Technique Explained
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@jake : around 7:00 - why do you want to have the wire under the button? Try it as it is now, it is like the "overdraw effect" of compounds. I see nothing wron in havin a cm or 1,5 beween Button und Wire. OK, you explained at 8:00. Yet I do not see that critical, but I might have smaller crawls than you.
Silly newby question: does stringing and unstringing a bow get it off tune? And should I take it apart if I'm using it weekly? I have an aluminum riser with bamboo/glass limbs (in case it makes a difference).
How do you adjust point on? Example I want to be point on at 50 m for outdoor. But I have yet to find a video explaining how to make that happen
Can you recommend riser and limbs to begin learning bare bow without breaking the bank?
Jake, i also intend to keep my indoor arrows uncut so far (which gives me a length of 36"), but i wonder if this is in conflict to where the front node of the arrow sits in relation to the contact point of the plunger. Isn't there a 'riskt' that the front node sits too far in front of the plunger (and if so, what are the possible consequences / negative impacts and is there a chance to compensate for it beside cutting the arrow?)
What do you think of Easton RX7's for indoor and why did you chose the super drives over them?
I prefer the speed out of the bow these light weight arrows will have over the RX7s
Hi jake. If my ATA draw length is 31,75 should I stick with 25 inch riser or should I switch to 27 inch? And will you review Hoyt xd riser and Axia limbs because I think about buying it?
jake i know this isnt related to this video but im looking for outdoor arrows and in your video on building your wife arrows you used the easton inspire . then in a later video you told about changing arrows... im curious as the reason for the change? i have the exact draw weight and was about to copy your setup you decided on for her but before i buy i was wanting to see what you said... what arrows did she ultimately settle on? thanks Jake youve definitely made me a better archer
@@gavincarmody3302 did you by chance catch what arrow they decided on? im looking for 18 to 50 meters being my average distance and want a arrow that wont disappoint
We used victory Vap arrows
@@JakeKaminskiArchery thanks for the reply and thanks for the knowledge .
The Inspire are really bad arrows. Inconsistent, not straight, and very heavy GPI for their size (lots of resin in that carbon).
I thought we were supposed to position the arrow just outside center shot, not dead under the string....??
Hi, what do you/everyone use to hold the bow whilst checking limb alignment? Thanks
I am not sure that's the right english word, i use a Bike repair stand.
I'm really a novice and a DIY'er, but I drilled a piece of aluminum angle and used a bolt the same thread as the stabilizer hole to hold the bow. I tightened the bolt to the bow, tightened the bolt with a nut to the angle and clamped the angle to my bench.
If you only shoot barebow you are not going to have a stabilizer to help you align the limbs. I am assuming that many cheap stabilizers are not as straight as one would want. I refuse to spend the money for a high quality one that will be used only infrequently. Aside from the beiter blocks, does anyone know of any inexpensive aids to limb alignment?
Actually I’ve found more straight stabilizers in cheap manufactures. Expensive doesn’t mean straight.
Thank you for responding. If it was not for you, I doubt that I would have continued with the sport. I was a frustrated tyro when you launched your channel. Best wishes.@@JakeKaminskiArchery
"Damper's corresponding verb is dampen, which means to deaden, restrain, or depress. ... A dampener is someone or something that dampens. So damper and dampener can both refer to one that deadens sound vibrations."
Agreed. in RC, Tamiya calls the shocks "dampers". And, in cycling, bicycle/frame manufacrturers call the 'elastics' inserted into frames (such as the Specialized Roubaix, Pinarello Dogma, etc) "dampeners". Two different words...with the same meaning.
Dampen seems to be reserved more for non-physical things, like someone’s mood. In engineering it’s always been damp and damper for physical attenuation, such as vibration, shock loads, or oscillations. I wonder if this is one of those cases where more and more people have been using dampener overtime so they added it to the dictionary. An older American Heritage Dictionary we have (1985) does not have an entry for dampener, but includes it at the end of the entry for dampen, used as a noun for making something wet. It also explicitly defines damp and damper as used in the engineering sense, but not dampen.
I tend to find dampers in chimneys.
I only use one washer in my zniper rest. I really don't know how it is even possible to have two. With the one i dont get any vibration.
I need a bow clamp, but the one you have is $266 Canadian! Thats expensive 😩.
Got an ATF-X black 27" Riser for sell if interested. It has about 14hrs of use.
a dampener dampens
get yourself a set of MIP wrenches they are expensive but you will never strip an allen
even just a set of elkind T handle wrenches will make a world of difference