And to add to that: We have to be careful - we were also "without a clue" before we were saved. We have to be careful we fall into the trap of thinking we were smarter / better / or whatever to have "figured out" God's truth when the fact is it's God that revealed it to us. So preach the gospel with grace and humility, point out how someone's claims are contrary to Scripture, but be careful we don't get prideful of how "stupid' people are. Romans 2:4 *_"Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?"_*
@@JanieBee So TRUE! IF we plant the "seed" GOD will do the REST... It's SO SAD just how MANY ppl in our SOCIETY talk about NOT knowing wht the GOSPEL is all about...tht's real scary for these ppls SOUL being LOST : ( MANY have been brainwashed from COLLEGES & the MEDIA ..BUT SO MANY ppl are in for such a RUDE AWAKENING someday...😥 It literally 💔BREAKS my heart! RAY talks w/ everyone cuz he's truly concerned about them going to HELL..Me too when I watch these videos,! Wht an AMAZING Christian man Ray is! Definitely a TRUE man of his GOD! He was saved at about 22 yrs old, about 50 yrs ago! Still going strong 💪 for GOD! Tht's so AMAZING! He def knows the Bible! I'm so GLAD YOU changed once you understood the "word" better! Some things are HARD to understand but MOST let's us know things to happen before CHRIST'S return! The Bible is being fulfilled & more is happening right under our noses...Israel 🇮🇱 etc! GOD BLESS YOU always!🙏💙 💜💜💜💜
He’s ok with rape. I wonder how he feels about child molesting? What if someone steals his car, his identity, his child? Let’s see how nonjudgmental he is then
Quick tip: if someone tells you "there is no truth," or "there is no objective truth," just ask them "is that true?" or "is that objectively true?" If it is true that there is no truth, then truth must exist, otherwise you fall into a logical paradox.
@@pinguy2334 the point here is that there are actual people who think sin doesn't exist and yet get mad when something wrong is happening to them. They refuse to acknowledge that right and wrong are even a thing. They contradict themselves.
I'm in SoCal too and...(yes seen Ray and others often) see guys exactly like this, and interact with people exactly like this, every single day. Truth claims and zero ability to defend them, THEN a 180 degree flip flop, then BACK again then frustration with themselves and MY lack of "understand what they're "trying to say". Many aren't open enough to actually see their argument positions lacking a consistent idea.
It's funny but also sad at the same time listening to people who think they are saying something deep and heavy but when you challenge them with simple questions their logic falls to pieces. I'm trying to learn how to do this without becoming frustrated in the discussion. Pray for me please!!
Hi Truth Matters! I pray God reveal to you truth, but you need to ask Him to do this and accept the truth He gives you! Sometimes it is difficult to accept cold hard truth, just accept and thank God for the truth and ask Him to help you receive it. God bless you.
Ray is so patient with people because of his great love for the Lord, and because of his great love for humanity, and his great desire to see them saved. Pray the Lord "gives you His eyes" to see others, and for Christ's Calvary love for others. That's what I pray for myself and for others.
The man being interviewed in the video tends to contradict himself. Why is that? He probably hasn't thought his own dispositions through much nor has he beend challenged often it seems. That man probably puts more emphasis as to what he will order at his favorite restaurant, or how his favorite team will make the playoffs etc as opposed to where he will spend eternity. I think it might do you good to re watch some of these videos.while calming your emotions. Study the body language, choice of words and facial expressions of the people being interviewed. There are a lot of bright people who miss the mark on what matters most. But understand when we evangelise to people, our focus is to lead them to the message of salvation, not to spend hours on end wallowing in rabbit holes. People love to debate,.but when their heads hit the pillow at night, they are left with their own thoughts and conscience to deal with.
@@BornAgain223 different strokes for different folks! God uses suitable intsruments.... one says "i am of paul" or " i am of applos" is Christ divided? we are all different intruments with the same breath of God breathing through us which makes different sound depending upon the disposition of the instrument
@@LivingWaters question, what would you say about heaven and hell? What would you say to someone who talked to their dad on a ouiji board for 6 hours with 5 close cousins. And what if your dad told you to come see him using astral projection as all ancient talk about. I love Christianities teachings but it's only a 3000 year old religion. Factually human remains have been here for 300000 years. Intelligents at least 12000 years ago as relics and artifacts can be dated. What this guy is articulating to you is~ this is not the only life, duality is essential to the human experience Good/Evil. light/Dark Male/Female. All is one at the beginning/the big bang is a splitting into The other(one/two). You will experience sins in one life to grow into knowing why they are wrong in the next.
"When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything." ~ G.K. Chesterton ---- Thanks for these!
So believing in some Mythical Celestial Dictator makes you feel superior to those who chose to believe in Logic and Common Sense,Do you realize how Hysterically Stupid you sound….😂😂🤡
@@loughton57 Wow, your insults, and assumptions speak volumes about your character. Just because someone doesn't agree with what you do you have to resort to that? Not very Christian of you.
Yeah, it's Romans 1 in full technicolor. First a sexual revolution, then a homosexual revolution, then insanity. I wondered what "insanity" would look like. I think we all see it now. :D
This poor guy. He has no idea that he is so confused about reality, he doesn't know if he's coming or going. I hope that Mark planted the seed, and someone else will water it.
The idol of the human mind. It's a tough one. It is the one thing that keeps Jordan Peterson from the ultimate truth. We must pray for him. With his knowledge of the human mind, he could cure so many mental conditions if he only laid down the pride. For his brain is a gift from God, there is no doubt. He speaks of the Bible too wisely. And he speaks of God too wisely. But that dang human pride!
Sometimes when I remember how many people think like this and are going on to HELL, it makes me sad, and depressed. I want to scream and slap them into reality. Because I love them. And don't want to see their destruction, in the depths of hell. Amen.
This channel has helped me a lot in my faith and I come back for every new video but of course The Holy Spirit was calling me for my purpose amen and God bless all viewers of this channel all the people who left a comment and the wonderful team who produces these videos thanks to you all 🤠👍
If you are ever on trial, this would be a great guy to have on your jury because he cannot tell you what is right or wrong. Your crimes are you experience.
I respect this conversation as it is with patience. A lot of persons would have already flipped out when their logic is tested because their logic is based on emotions really. Subjective truth is an oxymoron but I get the message and Mark has done a good job in breaking down what is truth. I am grateful for messages like this as it helps in defending my faith in Christ and help inspire to become more gracious.
Wow. Mark, you always keep such a clear head during these conversations. Thank you for setting such a good example for believers who are learning how to h share the gospel!
*You can overcome all the roadblocks in your life with the help of GOD. He can take you to new heights and to new places. The LORD is able to do exceedingly beyond all that could ask or think. Don't Give Up!*
Hehee that guy is on every jury. For this is how most folks think today. They are allergic to "judging," allergic to "truth" .. because they turn from God. Just tell someone that a woman is an adult human female, and LISTEN. However God never quits working for good .. so I still think the jury system is the better system. ALL our (Western nations) laws are from God. NO NATION or CULTURE on earth can compare with the Western (God given) sytem, now or in history! *Glory be to God*
If this brainless, Godless lump of a man doesn't get a grip , he is in for a rude awakening in HELL burning. Would he feel the same if his daughter, wife , sister or mother was raped right in front of him? Jesus is coming back, people get ready. Have a blessed day.
I’ve been sharing ‘Living Waters’ with groups I am in on FB. It’s so inspirational and makes me want to share it with others. It has really blessed me. God Bless You All that brings these videos to us.
Amen and God bless you as well for your faithfulness ministry as well dear sister. I was reading the word today and Gld gold me to tell you that a woman who fears the Lord is more precious than rubies and more fair than the most beautiful women. For in her mouth is the Las of mercy and the judgment of kindness and the flowing rivers lf God's love are in her heart continually. May he bless you continually in the same.
Watching him try to rationalize his position really hurts my heart. Knowing that there are many out there that are lost and believe this type of stuff. As I was once in that state of mind and spiritually unawake. I pray that the seed that has been planted, The Holy Spirit will water it so that he may be awaken spiritually. 🙏
Everyone of you on Living Waters is so compassionate and kind when you speak to people. I see the light of Jesus in you. I pray that all who speak to you see it.
“Four idiots talking about serious things.” That made me laugh, but add me to the group. Unfortunately our serious things are foolish to the stubborn unbeliever!!!
@@thatscrawford Is it wise to allow two people who love each other to get married? That's a very silly question! Why would you deny someone's love for another person, so long as it's consenting to both adult parties involved?
am in shock of his answers , its very sad that people are losing the standards of what is right and wrong and make their own reality , a house divided shall not stand ...
i've been saying the message of this video for decades. before Jesus, the king was God in modern times the governments of the world want a Godless society full of chaos so they can justify martial law and without God and a set of standards the government can install the standards and become God and once again have total control. people like richard dawkins, tyson, krauss, etc promote atheism and the governments plan and many people blindly fall right into the trap
@@deamcn6548 no I would not think that. There is no such thing as a dumb question when an individual is seeking truth. The gentlemen that is giving all the reasons why there isn't a God an going on about not judging. The creator of this video is trying to be patient with him
Opposing truths cannot exist when you consider there are solid facts. Good report. Keep up the great work. How about coming to the middle of the country and talk to people on the street just as a change? Alright, let's go be a blessing.
Heehee that would be interesting! But as a denizen of So Cal for 35 years 'til my escape 19 years ago (I worked at the animal hospital in Huntington Beach on Newland,) these folks need it. I was a communist and thought Jesus was a joke for idiots. And so did my peers. May they return home with the contagion of "Obejctive Truth!" :D
When he said we're supposed to be greater than Jesus, my jaw dropped and I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. How could we ever be better than Christ when He's the absolute perfect. It made me feel so strange hearing him say that.
Yeah, i think he interprets Jesus saying wrong where He says to His apostles 'you will do greater things than me'. But that doesn't mean we will be greater than He. Hence i would think that is his error in thinking.
This gentleman is a perfect example of what is being taught in secular schools. What I hate most is that our taxes fund this kind of education without our permission. 📖🙏🤓🇺🇸😎
i've been saying the message of this video for decades. before Jesus, the king was God in modern times the governments of the world want a Godless society full of chaos so they can justify martial law and without God and a set of standards the government can install the standards and become God and once again have total control. people like richard dawkins, tyson, krauss, etc promote atheism and the governments plan and many people blindly fall right into the trap
Every day that goes by with everything that is happening today, proves Jesus is coming, HE is at the door, and the Bible is absolutely the truth! I love Love "Living Waters"...... so eye opening and a great work in the Lord..
The best way to be accepted by a group of poeple you've not met? EMBARRASS YOURSELF. It is the sign of humility .. and folks can't help but repsond positively. :D ✝
the part where that one guy was like "we weren't meant to follow Jesus. We were meant to be *greater* than Him" cue me going OK SATAN. That is some serious blasphelmy right there!
@@connievida4089 Yes, but there is hope in getting people to think about this life and eternity after death. That is why Jesus died , for this life and eternity.
Fantastic responses to the relativistic man, those folks especially out in CA, are so used to living in a relativistic vacuum that they usually can’t really cope with objective objections. In my own experiences as well. Keep on speaking the Truth brother!
With this logic everything also becomes a fantasy…there is no reality…it is impossible to live in a world like that…. No rules just what you think……?????
@@Daftok Yes exactly! These people will superficially respond to everything you say with statements like “well that’s your truth”, or “well you can have your opinion”. But as soon as you touch on a topic they are passionate about, they will go full authoritarian tyrant on you, and demand everyone concede to their opinion. Like climate change, pro baby murder, or things like the welfare state. Suddenly with those topics they will demand that their view is the ONLY possible option, and all relativism goes flying out of the window in a split second. They do this because they don’t actually believe anything is relative. They just find the relativistic argument to be an easy religious out of having to actually think critically about God, their sin, and the Truth.
Yea I was born and raised in California and it’s just jacked up out here. Everyone is pretty much afraid to say anything because that’s what happens when everyone has their truths. I praise God He saved me and shined His glorious Light in my life! Let’s stand on The Truth🙏🏼🙌🏼
@@enrikefranco8725 stand on it and shout it from the rooftops. It's worthy to be praised at all times. Let us draw near to God with a pure heart of assurance and love. God bless you.
@@enrikefranco8725 Glory to God for drawing you to Truth brother! My entire family is from CA as well. But I moved with my dad to Montana as a kid, in the 90’s. But God saved me as an adult. I hope you can still speak some truth to some old friends at least? My sister went back to Berkeley area, and then to San Diego, and she is fullllllllll relatism brain washed. There is zero reasoning with her, logic means nothing, and draws her to immediate anger.
“He was despised and rejected- a man of sorrows, acquainted with deepest grief. We turned our backs on him and looked the other way. He was despised, and we did not care. Yet it was our weaknesses he carried; it was our sorrows that weighed him down. And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God, a punishment for his own sins! But he was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed. All of us, like sheep, have strayed away. We have left God’s paths to follow our own. Yet the Lord laid on him the sins of us all. He was oppressed and treated harshly, yet he never said a word. He was led like a lamb to the slaughter. And as a sheep is silent before the shearers, he did not open his mouth. Unjustly condemned, he was led away. No one cared that he died without descendants, that his life was cut short in midstream. But he was struck down for the rebellion of my people. He had done no wrong and had never deceived anyone. But he was buried like a criminal; he was put in a rich man’s grave. But it was the Lord’s good plan to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the Lord’s good plan will prosper in his hands. When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish, he will be satisfied. And because of his experience, my righteous servant will make it possible for many to be counted righteous, for he will bear all their sins. I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier, because he exposed himself to death. He was counted among the rebels. He bore the sins of many and interceded for rebels.” Isaiah 53:3-12 NLT This was written around 700 years before Jesus came into the earth, yet it describes His life perfectly. "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 God loves you so much and showed that by sending His Son to die for us so that we may inherit eternal life. We deserve hell but He gave us heaven through faith in Jesus. He took the punishment we deserved and by putting our faith in Him we can be saved. The Key To Eternal Life: th-cam.com/video/uZdv-TtiMkg/w-d-xo.html For evidence for Christianity and answered questions, check out th-cam.com/users/drcraigvideos and th-cam.com/users/CrossExamined because if Jesus really rose from the dead it is the most important fact ever!
Proverbs 26:4-5 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
@@Horustheoriginalgod morality is absolute, if it was subjective then there was nothing wrong with hitler killing the Jews since according to you it’s for the goodness of the village. That’s the evolutionary way of thinking and “survival of the fittest” as well, it never works because you will always tend to dehumanize the weak and the vulnerable.
@@Horustheoriginalgod well I would disagree because that would be a change in the standard of living not absolute morality. Also yes it’s a selection in which supposedly advances the human race meaning we should, according to the ideology of evolution, kill all people with cancer genetics, Down syndrome, etc… this will completely advance the human race because you eliminate any life that doesn’t meet the standards of the “ideal” human being. Also if we use the ideology you’re defending we can’t say that Hitler was wrong because isn’t morality subjective? That’s why morality has to be objective because we can all agree that what happened was a horrific event, it’s an absolute fact.
@@Horustheoriginalgod not a straw man at all, I responded to your comment. What I understand is “straw man” is usually said when someone doesn’t have anything to respond with just like you did. I brought up evolution because if you believe that morality is subjective then you shouldn’t be able to say hitler was wrong for killing the Jews because your morals that killing is wrong doesn’t apply to him because it’s all subjective right? Also you said this has nothing to do with survival of the fittest but survival of the group..? That’s why I responded how I did, also morality doesn’t change. It’s suppressed by evil people to get what they want. Just like you said, hitler was a maniac who did evil but according to your view morality is subjective therefore who are you to judge and decide what’s wrong or right?
In (fallen) Britain we used to call it ‘talking bollocks’! This man was doing it by the bucket load. But at least he listened at the end. Praying for him now...
I have met several individuals who actually believe there is no truth. And somehow they can not see past the error of this belief. But, as soon as you back them into a corner and they can not make an assumption of their position, they immediately become hostile. No one likes being backed into a corner…and that is a truth…so they start spouting squishy rhetoric about life being continuous and truth is fluid so in the next life, if there is a next life, you can avoid the consequences of your beliefs. It’s really very interesting how these individuals can twist and justify beliefs that have no foundation.
In case anyone finds this helpful or is interested in praying for our Christian ministries/leaders/shepherds/evangelists/apologists like Mark Spence: 16 prayer points you can pray for them: 1 You can pray that they will always have a good walk with God (that they will not forget their first love), that God will bless their daily private Bible reading and prayer life, and that they will have good sound doctrine. 2 You can pray that they will be full of the Holy Spirit and that God will bless their ministries so that many more people will come to faith in Jesus for God’s glory, and that they will feed God’s sheep and disciple them properly. 3 You can pray that they will be humble, that they will remember how many Christian leaders in the past have fallen, and that they will have a very healthy fear of the Lord. 4 You can pray that God will protect them and the ministry God has given them from: Pride Love of fame Love of money Desire for the approval of people rather than the approval of God Being worried about offending people Compromising God’s Word Sexual temptation Demonic attacks Persecution (from outside the Church and inside the Church) 5 You can pray for their PHYSICAL HEALTH and that God will heal all their health problems. 6 You can pray for their MENTAL HEALTH. Pastors and Christian workers often have stress and battle discouragement and depression. Please God touch them and heal them of all mental and emotional problems and distress. They can also sometimes be hurt by the people they serve or by other Christian leaders - so we can pray that this won’t happen but that if it does that God will heal these wounds and strengthen His servants to forgive each other and that God will restore unity for His Glory. 7 You can pray that God will bless and protect their families. Satan often attacks Christian workers by attacking their loved ones. So you can pray that their family members will all have a good walk with God, have good sound doctrine, that God will protect them all from demonic attacks, that God will also bless and protect their physical and mental health, heal them of all infirmities, and that God will bless all their family relationships so that there is peace and love in their families. You can pray that God especially blesses and protects all areas and parts of their marriages, so that they will not be tempted to look elsewhere. Also please God bless their marriages especially so that they can be a model and example for other Christians. 8 You can pray that God will abundantly bless and protect the finances of the ministries and also the personal finances of God’s servants (especially finances needed for health or medical expenses). You can pray that they always have abundant finances so that they can always do every good work God wants them to do. 9 You can pray that God blesses and protects the relationships between Christian co-workers in ministries - so that no jealousy or strife or bitterness takes root. That they will all have Christian unity and that their focus will be on God getting all the glory and rejoice in any and all work for God. 10 You can pray that God prevents any technical or logistical or legal or any type of problems for their ministry, but if they have any such issues/problems that God will help them resolve/fix and totally solve and remove these problems. 11 If it’s an internet (e.g. TH-cam) ministry you can pray that God will help the videos spread on those platforms and get many views and that God will use the videos to bring many people to repentance and faith in Jesus. 12 You can pray that God will help Christian leaders be good shepherds of Jesus’ sheep and continue to feed Jesus’ sheep, and that they will not only convert people, but also disciple new converts so that they can grow and develop and mature in a healthy and supported way. 13 You can pray that God will give them the heart of a servant. 14 You can pray that God gives them wisdom and helps them and powerfully guides them when making all decisions and plans. 15 You can pray that if they make mistakes or sin that God will grant them humility and repentance and restore them. 16 You can pray that more Christians will pray consistently for Christian leaders/pastors/shepherds/workers/ministries. *********************** You could make a list of pastors/ministries you want to support and pray for them regularly. Jesus said: “ when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will REWARD you.” Matthew 6:6
14 more BIBLICAL prayer points for praying for the LOST: 1 You can pray for God to draw more people to Jesus and to grant more people to come to Jesus. Jesus said: "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them" John 6:44 Jesus said: “No one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.” John 6:65 -------------------------- 2 You can pray that God will REVEAL the reality and truth about Jesus to more people. "Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not REVEALED to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in Heaven." Matthew 16:16-17 "At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and REVEALED them to little children." Matthew 11:25 --------------------------- 3 You can pray that God will teach more people. Jesus said: "It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him COMES TO ME." John 6:45 -------------------------- 4 You can pray that God will open more hearts to attend to His message. "The Lord opened her heart to attend to the things being spoken by Paul." Acts 16:14 -------------------------- 5 You can pray for more laborers. "Then Jesus said to his disciples, “The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few; therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest.”" Matthew 9:37-38 Jesus said: “The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest." Luke 10:2 ------------------------- 6 You can pray that God will use these labourers to OPEN MORE EYES and turn more people from darkness to light. Jesus said: "I send thee (Paul), TO OPEN THEIR EYES, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me." Acts 26:17-18 ------------------------- 7 You can pray that God will grant more people repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth: “in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth” 2 Timothy 2:25 ------------- 8 You can pray for more opportunities to share the Gospel, and for God to open more doors for effective work: "And pray for us, too, that God may open a door for our message, so that we may proclaim the mystery of Christ, for which I am in chains." Colossians 4:3 “ because a great door for effective work has opened to me” 1 Corinthians 16:9 ------------------------- 9 You can pray that God will give all Christians the boldness to share the gospel. "Lord... grant to your servants to continue to speak your word with all boldness... And when they had prayed... they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and continued to speak the word of God with boldness." Acts 4:29-31 ------------------------ 10 You can pray that Christians will speak boldly RELYING ON THE LORD: “ they spent a long time there speaking boldly with reliance upon the Lord” Acts 14:3 ------------- 11 You can pray that God will give us all the right words to say. "Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel," Ephesians 6:19 ------------------------- 12 You can pray that God will give more people eyes to see and ears to hear so that they would turn to God and God would heal them. “while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand….. OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT SEE WITH THEIR EYES, HEAR WITH THEIR EARS, UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART, AND RETURN, AND I WOULD HEAL THEM.’ But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear.” Matthew 13:13…16 “The hearing ear and the seeing eye, The Lord has made both of them.” Proverbs 20:12 ----------- 13 You can pray that God will even open blind eyes and bring prisoners living in spiritual darkness out into the light of Jesus: “a light to the nations, To open blind eyes, To bring out prisoners from the dungeon And those who dwell in darkness from the prison.” Isaiah 42:7 ----------- 14 “pray for us that the word of the Lord will spread rapidly and be glorified” 2 Thessalonians 3:1 ---------- 15 You can pray that we will have more of God's love in our hearts for the lost so that we will not be afraid to share the Gospel, but that God's love in us will override any fears and make it automatic that we share the gospel in love. If there was a frozen lake, you wouldn't want to go swimming in it. But if a small child fell in, you would automatically dive in to save them. We can pray for love that will cause us to act. ------------------------- "Devote yourselves to prayer, being watchful and thankful." Colossians 4:2 Jesus told us multiple times throughout Scripture to watch and pray always.
Here's the end of the whole relative argument right here: "If it's all your truth is yours & my truth is mine" then I should be able to exact violence or steal from a person & I shouldn't suffer any of the consequences cause no one is right & no one is wrong."
Yes. They use our language for themselves to make a truth claim, and then deny there exists any absolute truth claim.. This is the core of presuppositional apologetics (as opposed to classical apologetics.) You allow them to snare themselves with their own words. The Evidence Study Bible and the Evangleical Guidebook shown in the video are two resources that have assisted my understanding. They just dig a pit and fall in. And then they are more willing to be guided out.
The more people talk, the more the Bible is validated.
And sometimes the more people talk, the more full of sxxx you find them to be
Good to see you here. Love your music. God bless you, brother.
And to add to that: We have to be careful - we were also "without a clue" before we were saved. We have to be careful we fall into the trap of thinking we were smarter / better / or whatever to have "figured out" God's truth when the fact is it's God that revealed it to us. So preach the gospel with grace and humility, point out how someone's claims are contrary to Scripture, but be careful we don't get prideful of how "stupid' people are.
Romans 2:4 *_"Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?"_*
Yep. And when I was an atheist as a teenager, I would only search up videos from atheists and rarely wanted to hear the other sides POV
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So TRUE!
IF we plant the "seed" GOD will do the REST... It's SO SAD just how MANY ppl in our SOCIETY talk about NOT knowing wht the GOSPEL is all about...tht's real scary for these ppls SOUL being LOST : ( MANY have been brainwashed from COLLEGES & the MEDIA ..BUT SO MANY ppl are in for such a RUDE AWAKENING someday...😥
It literally 💔BREAKS my heart! RAY talks w/ everyone cuz he's truly concerned about them going to HELL..Me too when I watch these videos,!
Wht an AMAZING Christian man Ray is! Definitely a TRUE man of his GOD! He was saved at about 22 yrs old, about 50 yrs ago! Still going strong 💪 for GOD! Tht's so AMAZING!
He def knows the Bible! I'm so GLAD YOU changed once you understood the "word" better! Some things are HARD to understand but MOST let's us know things to happen before CHRIST'S return! The Bible is being fulfilled & more is happening right under our noses...Israel 🇮🇱 etc!
GOD BLESS YOU always!🙏💙
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My jaw keeps hitting the floor on the things this man is saying. " Profesing to be wise they became fools" , says the LORD.
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Amen!
I can't get my Jaw off the floor!!!
The fat guy chewing gum has a guilty conscience.
He’s ok with rape. I wonder how he feels about child molesting? What if someone steals his car, his identity, his child? Let’s see how nonjudgmental he is then
Quick tip: if someone tells you "there is no truth," or "there is no objective truth," just ask them "is that true?" or "is that objectively true?" If it is true that there is no truth, then truth must exist, otherwise you fall into a logical paradox.
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Who Do You Think You are? Frank Turek? LOL just playing
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Thank you for sharing this!
Exactly!
My favorite quote is this "if someone says there is no such thing as sin, steal his wallet" -R.C. Sproul
its a lot funnier the way the conversation played out
You still can believe in crimes and wrong doing.
@@pinguy2334 the point here is that there are actual people who think sin doesn't exist and yet get mad when something wrong is happening to them. They refuse to acknowledge that right and wrong are even a thing. They contradict themselves.
@@goosieschmoo8239 I dont believe in sin because that a Christian term and not all of us are Christian. But we all have to live with bad acts.
@@pinguy2334 looks like it's time to steal your wallet, then.
I'm in southern CA. I see these guys interviewing people almost every time I go to the beach in the area. Great to see. ❤️
I'm in SoCal too and...(yes seen Ray and others often) see guys exactly like this, and interact with people exactly like this, every single day. Truth claims and zero ability to defend them, THEN a 180 degree flip flop, then BACK again then frustration with themselves and MY lack of "understand what they're "trying to say". Many aren't open enough to actually see their argument positions lacking a consistent idea.
SALVATION IS ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST 🙌 the truth
Faith in Jesus and obeying His Commandments (John14:15)...turning away from it and living in holiness.
The 'my truth' generation needs to know about The Way, The Truth, and The Life.
Good to see you Mark. Living Waters future is good :)
What’s going on with Pastor Ray? Did I miss something? Is he okay??
PROFESSING to be wise, they become fools.
Sounds like a lot of Christians.
@@mattr.1887 Sounds like you.
He actually listened at the end! May God bring the increase!
It's funny but also sad at the same time listening to people who think they are saying something deep and heavy but when you challenge them with simple questions their logic falls to pieces. I'm trying to learn how to do this without becoming frustrated in the discussion. Pray for me please!!
Hi Truth Matters! I pray God reveal to you truth, but you need to ask Him to do this and accept the truth He gives you! Sometimes it is difficult to accept cold hard truth, just accept and thank God for the truth and ask Him to help you receive it. God bless you.
@@bettyqueen1235
He’s not struggling with excepting truth. He’s saying that he gets frustrated in these type of conversations.
Ray is so patient with people because of his great love for the Lord, and because of his great love for humanity, and his great desire to see them saved.
Pray the Lord "gives you His eyes" to see others, and for Christ's Calvary love for others. That's what I pray for myself and for others.
The man being interviewed in the video tends to contradict himself. Why is that? He probably hasn't thought his own dispositions through much nor has he beend challenged often it seems.
That man probably puts more emphasis as to what he will order at his favorite restaurant, or how his favorite team will make the playoffs etc as opposed to where he will spend eternity.
I think it might do you good to re watch some of these videos.while calming your emotions. Study the body language, choice of words and facial expressions of the people being interviewed.
There are a lot of bright people who miss the mark on what matters most. But understand when we evangelise to people, our focus is to lead them to the message of salvation, not to spend hours on end wallowing in rabbit holes.
People love to debate,.but when their heads hit the pillow at night, they are left with their own thoughts and conscience to deal with.
@@eastwood111 Correct!
I'm loving Mark's street conversations. He's such an inspiration
Very kind of you! Thank you. -Mark
yeah no offense to Ray, God bless him, Mark is my favourite for street interviews, his style is unique and compelling.
@@BornAgain223 different strokes for different folks! God uses suitable intsruments....
one says "i am of paul" or " i am of applos" is Christ divided?
we are all different intruments with the same breath of God breathing through us which makes different sound depending upon the disposition of the instrument
@@LivingWaters question, what would you say about heaven and hell? What would you say to someone who talked to their dad on a ouiji board for 6 hours with 5 close cousins. And what if your dad told you to come see him using astral projection as all ancient talk about. I love Christianities teachings but it's only a 3000 year old religion. Factually human remains have been here for 300000 years. Intelligents at least 12000 years ago as relics and artifacts can be dated. What this guy is articulating to you is~ this is not the only life, duality is essential to the human experience Good/Evil. light/Dark Male/Female. All is one at the beginning/the big bang is a splitting into The other(one/two). You will experience sins in one life to grow into knowing why they are wrong in the next.
@@colejackson9576 I'm too tired to answer at the moment.
"When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything." ~ G.K. Chesterton
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Thanks for these!
Amen brother. The fool has said in his heart there is no God. The simple in heart believeth everything he hears. Proverbs
Christians don't believe in multiple other gods so they can believe in anything. See how that works.
So believing in some Mythical Celestial Dictator makes you feel superior to those who chose to believe in Logic and Common Sense,Do you realize how Hysterically Stupid you sound….😂😂🤡
That's funny. To believe in a god you have to be able to suspend your sense of rationality and stop using your brain.
@@danbailey2964 and the fool hath said in their heart there is no God.
"There is no right or wrong, it just the level of growth where you're at" .
Please LORD take us away from this, and deliver us from evil!
It was worse than ignorant, he was beyond dumb. Probably plays video games all day or the tv is on 24/7.
I pray he has no kids.
There's a medical procedure called P.A.S. to help with people who don't want to live on this earth anymore.
More like pray for this man because he is so clearly lost in his own sin.
@@loughton57
Wow, your insults, and assumptions speak volumes about your character. Just because someone doesn't agree with what you do you have to resort to that? Not very Christian of you.
@@goosieschmoo8239 Says the person with a goose for a profile pic.
Satan so easily slips in with his little lies. Wrong is now right. The Bible said we’d get here
Complete inversion friend!
Yes and in this day and time we are living in he is trying to steal the souls that belong to God. It is a battle I'm fighting !
Yeah, it's Romans 1 in full technicolor. First a sexual revolution, then a homosexual revolution, then insanity. I wondered what "insanity" would look like. I think we all see it now. :D
@@youbetyourwrasse we are getting close. Evil is now good, good is now wrong
And they shall call evil good and good evil. Isaiah 5
This poor guy. He has no idea that he is so confused about reality, he doesn't know if he's coming or going. I hope that Mark planted the seed, and someone else will water it.
Poor guy, he knows the truth, he was holding on tight to his idol. I hope he lets go
The idol of the human mind. It's a tough one. It is the one thing that keeps Jordan Peterson from the ultimate truth. We must pray for him. With his knowledge of the human mind, he could cure so many mental conditions if he only laid down the pride. For his brain is a gift from God, there is no doubt. He speaks of the Bible too wisely. And he speaks of God too wisely. But that dang human pride!
@@youbetyourwrasse truth!!
This man is hopelessly lost keep him in
your prayers
No one is hopelessly lost.
God bless the Living Waters ministry.
When your eyes are veiled to the truth, they are veiled indeed!
“There is no right and wrong.”
“Is that sentence right?”
He's an IDIOT.
GOD HELP US 🙏
I'll forgive him if he's had a lobotomy
The problem with that response is that it’s no different than “Can GOD make a stone He can not lift?”
This man needs our prayers!
Sometimes when I remember how many people think like this and are going on to HELL, it makes me sad, and depressed. I want to scream and slap them into reality. Because I love them. And don't want to see their destruction, in the depths of hell. Amen.
Truth is not subjective.
Pray for this man (for God to open his eyes and give him a new heart).
Peace in Christ! 🕎✝️🕊️🔥
That was a lot of word salad coming from the man. Thank you Mark for your ministry! You and the Living Waters team continue to encourage the Body!
i like how mark reasons with people, its really fun to watch and learn from him.
May the God remove the blinders from people that have been so badly deceived .
I was almost like that man until I know that there is a God who loves me.
This channel has helped me a lot in my faith and I come back for every new video but of course The Holy Spirit was calling me for my purpose amen and God bless all viewers of this channel all the people who left a comment and the wonderful team who produces these videos thanks to you all 🤠👍
I like Mark as his voice is very soothing and sensible.
If you are ever on trial, this would be a great guy to have on your jury because he cannot tell you what is right or wrong. Your crimes are you experience.
Haaaaaaaaa your right funny..if he was on trial he would get himself jail for along time.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The jury would be in deliberations for years 🙄
I’m an atheist and even I disagree with this guy. What a terrible argument 😂
I respect this conversation as it is with patience. A lot of persons would have already flipped out when their logic is tested because their logic is based on emotions really. Subjective truth is an oxymoron but I get the message and Mark has done a good job in breaking down what is truth. I am grateful for messages like this as it helps in defending my faith in Christ and help inspire to become more gracious.
Listening to Ollie brings to mind the song “Ball of Confusion”.
Wow! What a tough interview. Well done, Mark.
Wow. Mark, you always keep such a clear head during these conversations. Thank you for setting such a good example for believers who are learning how to h share the gospel!
*You can overcome all the roadblocks in your life with the help of GOD. He can take you to new heights and to new places. The LORD is able to do exceedingly beyond all that could ask or think. Don't Give Up!*
He's done it already for me. God bless
Amen
Nice message. Never give up. Hope you're well.
Well, at least he's consistently inconsistent. Can you imagine this guy on a jury?
Hehee that guy is on every jury. For this is how most folks think today. They are allergic to "judging," allergic to "truth" .. because they turn from God. Just tell someone that a woman is an adult human female, and LISTEN. However God never quits working for good .. so I still think the jury system is the better system. ALL our (Western nations) laws are from God. NO NATION or CULTURE on earth can compare with the Western (God given) sytem, now or in history! *Glory be to God*
If this brainless, Godless lump of a man doesn't get a grip , he is in for a rude awakening in HELL burning. Would he feel the same if his daughter, wife , sister or mother was raped right in front of him? Jesus is coming back, people get ready. Have a blessed day.
or in a leadership position or having a family.
ahahahahahahaha
Amen! 😂😂 ❤
I’ve been sharing ‘Living Waters’ with groups I am in on FB. It’s so inspirational and makes me want to share it with others. It has really blessed me. God Bless You All that brings these videos to us.
Amen and God bless you as well for your faithfulness ministry as well dear sister. I was reading the word today and Gld gold me to tell you that a woman who fears the Lord is more precious than rubies and more fair than the most beautiful women. For in her mouth is the Las of mercy and the judgment of kindness and the flowing rivers lf God's love are in her heart continually. May he bless you continually in the same.
That is great, Anita.
jesus tank you for these servants ove yours please deliver all that ears them preach your words jesus amen
God bless the man for sticking it out
Watching him try to rationalize his position really hurts my heart. Knowing that there are many out there that are lost and believe this type of stuff. As I was once in that state of mind and spiritually unawake. I pray that the seed that has been planted, The Holy Spirit will water it so that he may be awaken spiritually. 🙏
Pray the scales fall from his eyes! It's so sad to see people so deceived that they won't stand against an evil as bad as rape.
Everyone of you on Living Waters is so compassionate and kind when you speak to people. I see the light of Jesus in you. I pray that all who speak to you see it.
It's like saying there is no need for law. If there no law, then everything is permissible. There will be no morality.
AND no more human beings alive. We would go extinct in a Communist bloodbath. Welcome to the Book of Revelation.
@@youbetyourwrasse I don't understand you statement, what you are saying?
"By what standard?" That is the question!
“Four idiots talking about serious things.” That made me laugh, but add me to the group. Unfortunately our serious things are foolish to the stubborn unbeliever!!!
God bless you guys too
You guys are one of my ministry biggest influences, Praise Jesus
All Hail Satan! Thank the US Constitution for Freedom Of Religion!
@@AlexTheGreat21 I hope you're doing well
@@thatscrawford I'm doing great, our government is hopefully going to codify Gay Marriage before Thanksgiving :3
Are you sure thats wise? Not to say people wont be gay but what is marriage about?
@@thatscrawford Is it wise to allow two people who love each other to get married? That's a very silly question! Why would you deny someone's love for another person, so long as it's consenting to both adult parties involved?
am in shock of his answers , its very sad that people are losing the standards of what is right and wrong and make their own reality , a house divided shall not stand ...
i've been saying the message of this video for decades.
before Jesus, the king was God
in modern times the governments of the world want a Godless society full of chaos so they can justify martial law and without God and a set of standards the government can install the standards and become God and once again have total control.
people like richard dawkins, tyson, krauss, etc promote atheism and the governments plan and many people blindly fall right into the trap
God loves this man❤️
Let's pray that this guy never gets picked for jury duty. Love ye Mark!
This guy is just flapping his jaws an is sadly very uneducated believing the fairytale of nothingness
@@byronscherer4986 which one?
@@byronscherer4986 please don't think I'm dumb for asking lol
@@deamcn6548 no I would not think that. There is no such thing as a dumb question when an individual is seeking truth. The gentlemen that is giving all the reasons why there isn't a God an going on about not judging. The creator of this video is trying to be patient with him
@@byronscherer4986 right on brother. I was just making sure lol. You never know these days but you are 100 percent right.
Incredible the level of blindness of the American society these days, I witness this kind of mentality almost every day.
You mean the blindness .. of ever single unrepented sinner? :D
@@youbetyourwrasse absolutely, you got what I mean.
I feel the same way.
It's not just in America. Sin is in every single person around the world.
Keep posting 📫 we need yalls evangelism!
Opposing truths cannot exist when you consider there are solid facts. Good report. Keep up the great work. How about coming to the middle of the country and talk to people on the street just as a change? Alright, let's go be a blessing.
Heehee that would be interesting! But as a denizen of So Cal for 35 years 'til my escape 19 years ago (I worked at the animal hospital in Huntington Beach on Newland,) these folks need it. I was a communist and thought Jesus was a joke for idiots. And so did my peers. May they return home with the contagion of "Obejctive Truth!" :D
Well done Mark, keep up the good work in taking the gospel to the streets.
When he said we're supposed to be greater than Jesus, my jaw dropped and I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. How could we ever be better than Christ when He's the absolute perfect. It made me feel so strange hearing him say that.
Yeah, i think he interprets Jesus saying wrong where He says to His apostles 'you will do greater things than me'. But that doesn't mean we will be greater than He. Hence i would think that is his error in thinking.
Good work Mark!
I love what you do may GOD bless you all
This gentleman is a perfect example of what is being taught in secular schools. What I hate most is that our taxes fund this kind of education without our permission. 📖🙏🤓🇺🇸😎
i've been saying the message of this video for decades.
before Jesus, the king was God
in modern times the governments of the world want a Godless society full of chaos so they can justify martial law and without God and a set of standards the government can install the standards and become God and once again have total control.
people like richard dawkins, tyson, krauss, etc promote atheism and the governments plan and many people blindly fall right into the trap
Every day that goes by with everything that is happening today, proves Jesus is coming, HE is at the door, and the Bible is absolutely the truth! I love Love "Living Waters"...... so eye opening and a great work in the Lord..
Awww the end was awesome when he said we're 4 idiots talking about serious things🤣
The best way to be accepted by a group of poeple you've not met? EMBARRASS YOURSELF. It is the sign of humility .. and folks can't help but repsond positively. :D ✝
@@youbetyourwrasse I've know thus since I was small..making fun of yourself lightheartedlly I love it😁
Prime example of confidence at a 10 but actual knowledge at a 2.
Jesus is God! Praise His name!
F*ck God! WOOHOO!!!!!
the part where that one guy was like "we weren't meant to follow Jesus. We were meant to be *greater* than Him" cue me going OK SATAN. That is some serious blasphelmy right there!
Exactly!!
That is crazy! Jesus did say that we can do greater works then he did when we are filled with the Holy Spirit.
@@darm1959 if you try to puff yourself up to be better than God, then you are no different than satan.
Please interview my aunt too, that ought to teach her a lesson. She's a progressive Christian. Please pray for her
God bless you Mark
this man is fighting conviction hard but there’s no man that can stand Before God and not bow down
Why would we have to bow?
@@pinguy2334 Because He's the holy, perfect, sovereign ruler of the universe, we will all bow before God one day whether we think we will or not.
I learn something with every video and encouragement for my christian walk. Great video and insight.
I learn something to.
How stupid ppl are
@@connievida4089 Yes, but there is hope in getting people to think about this life and eternity after death. That is why Jesus died , for this life and eternity.
Your correct & I hope they come around.
This dude is lost. Pray for him
His subjective truth is his way of saying he approves acts of sin.
He - as most that have not yet received the Holy Spirit - want to keep on sinning. God bless that, guy in Jesus Name we pray.
@@Steinstra-vj7wl we shouldn’t ask God to bless him, we should rather ask God to give him a ‘Road to Damascus’ experience.
@@CherylPix62 THAT is blessing.
Tell the truth. " He who keeps my word ..." "He who confesses me before man, i she'll confess him even before my father even which is in heaven "
I admire your patience with such stuborn PEOPLE!
Fantastic responses to the relativistic man, those folks especially out in CA, are so used to living in a relativistic vacuum that they usually can’t really cope with objective objections. In my own experiences as well. Keep on speaking the Truth brother!
With this logic everything also becomes a fantasy…there is no reality…it is impossible to live in a world like that…. No rules just what you think……?????
@@Daftok Yes exactly! These people will superficially respond to everything you say with statements like “well that’s your truth”, or “well you can have your opinion”. But as soon as you touch on a topic they are passionate about, they will go full authoritarian tyrant on you, and demand everyone concede to their opinion.
Like climate change, pro baby murder, or things like the welfare state. Suddenly with those topics they will demand that their view is the ONLY possible option, and all relativism goes flying out of the window in a split second.
They do this because they don’t actually believe anything is relative. They just find the relativistic argument to be an easy religious out of having to actually think critically about God, their sin, and the Truth.
Yea I was born and raised in California and it’s just jacked up out here. Everyone is pretty much afraid to say anything because that’s what happens when everyone has their truths. I praise God He saved me and shined His glorious Light in my life! Let’s stand on The Truth🙏🏼🙌🏼
@@enrikefranco8725 stand on it and shout it from the rooftops. It's worthy to be praised at all times. Let us draw near to God with a pure heart of assurance and love. God bless you.
@@enrikefranco8725 Glory to God for drawing you to Truth brother! My entire family is from CA as well. But I moved with my dad to Montana as a kid, in the 90’s. But God saved me as an adult. I hope you can still speak some truth to some old friends at least? My sister went back to Berkeley area, and then to San Diego, and she is fullllllllll relatism brain washed. There is zero reasoning with her, logic means nothing, and draws her to immediate anger.
What a big brain this gentleman must have.
If you don't stand for something....
... *you'll stand for anything.*
@@youbetyourwrasse I thought it was "you'll fall for anything"
God bless you Mark, God bless Living Waters🙌🏽❤
i love your vidoes! thanks for making them!
Interesting conversation. You planted some good seed.
“He was despised and rejected- a man of sorrows, acquainted with deepest grief. We turned our backs on him and looked the other way. He was despised, and we did not care. Yet it was our weaknesses he carried; it was our sorrows that weighed him down. And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God, a punishment for his own sins! But he was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed. All of us, like sheep, have strayed away. We have left God’s paths to follow our own. Yet the Lord laid on him the sins of us all. He was oppressed and treated harshly, yet he never said a word. He was led like a lamb to the slaughter. And as a sheep is silent before the shearers, he did not open his mouth. Unjustly condemned, he was led away. No one cared that he died without descendants, that his life was cut short in midstream. But he was struck down for the rebellion of my people. He had done no wrong and had never deceived anyone. But he was buried like a criminal; he was put in a rich man’s grave. But it was the Lord’s good plan to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the Lord’s good plan will prosper in his hands. When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish, he will be satisfied. And because of his experience, my righteous servant will make it possible for many to be counted righteous, for he will bear all their sins. I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier, because he exposed himself to death. He was counted among the rebels. He bore the sins of many and interceded for rebels.”
Isaiah 53:3-12 NLT
This was written around 700 years before Jesus came into the earth, yet it describes His life perfectly.
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Oh my goodness I have a headache bless this guys heart .’ He’s all over da place 🤦🏽♀️
Great video
4:51 Boom! He just proved that Truth does exist. Of course he won’t admit that! That’s why Mark gave that little smile right after LOL!
It’s crazy I’m always fighting to prove absolute morality, but at a certain point Proverbs 23:9 always comes to my mind and I stop talking to them.
I do not understand your delima. I would like to know and maybe offer assistance to you. Blessings. BTW See m post above.
Proverbs 26:4-5 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
@@Horustheoriginalgod morality is absolute, if it was subjective then there was nothing wrong with hitler killing the Jews since according to you it’s for the goodness of the village. That’s the evolutionary way of thinking and “survival of the fittest” as well, it never works because you will always tend to dehumanize the weak and the vulnerable.
@@Horustheoriginalgod well I would disagree because that would be a change in the standard of living not absolute morality. Also yes it’s a selection in which supposedly advances the human race meaning we should, according to the ideology of evolution, kill all people with cancer genetics, Down syndrome, etc… this will completely advance the human race because you eliminate any life that doesn’t meet the standards of the “ideal” human being. Also if we use the ideology you’re defending we can’t say that Hitler was wrong because isn’t morality subjective? That’s why morality has to be objective because we can all agree that what happened was a horrific event, it’s an absolute fact.
@@Horustheoriginalgod not a straw man at all, I responded to your comment. What I understand is “straw man” is usually said when someone doesn’t have anything to respond with just like you did. I brought up evolution because if you believe that morality is subjective then you shouldn’t be able to say hitler was wrong for killing the Jews because your morals that killing is wrong doesn’t apply to him because it’s all subjective right?
Also you said this has nothing to do with survival of the fittest but survival of the group..? That’s why I responded how I did, also morality doesn’t change. It’s suppressed by evil people to get what they want. Just like you said, hitler was a maniac who did evil but according to your view morality is subjective therefore who are you to judge and decide what’s wrong or right?
Thank you for willing to go out ask these questions and let them start thinking.
I had the exact same reaction as Mark at 10:08!
Awww he even ended it saying god bless you. Sometimes people need to talk themselves in circles to really understand how little they know.
Was just about to head to bed. Also there needs to be a name for these series of Mark Spence witnessing videos. Any suggestions? God bless you.
I really like Mark Spence., Holy Spirit kickin in my ♥️, mind during this video. Thank you commissioner Spence.
Great conversation & explanation! Keep up the good work!
I'm just shaking my head right now.....
I appreciate you conversations with people. I tend to be more argumentative and impatient
In (fallen) Britain we used to call it ‘talking bollocks’! This man was doing it by the bucket load. But at least he listened at the end. Praying for him now...
I have met several individuals who actually believe there is no truth.
And somehow they can not see past the error of this belief.
But, as soon as you back them into a corner and they can not make an assumption of their position, they immediately become hostile.
No one likes being backed into a corner…and that is a truth…so they start spouting squishy rhetoric about life being continuous and truth is fluid so in the next life, if there is a next life, you can avoid the consequences of your beliefs.
It’s really very interesting how these individuals can twist and justify beliefs that have no foundation.
Hey Mark! I REALLY enjoy your quick WIT!
I feel very sad for this man.
I feel very sad for you
God have mercy on us.
In case anyone finds this helpful or is interested in praying for our Christian ministries/leaders/shepherds/evangelists/apologists like Mark Spence:
16 prayer points you can pray for them:
1
You can pray that they will always have a good walk with God (that they will not forget their first love), that God will bless their daily private Bible reading and prayer life, and that they will have good sound doctrine.
2
You can pray that they will be full of the Holy Spirit and that God will bless their ministries so that many more people will come to faith in Jesus for God’s glory, and that they will feed God’s sheep and disciple them properly.
3
You can pray that they will be humble, that they will remember how many Christian leaders in the past have fallen, and that they will have a very healthy fear of the Lord.
4
You can pray that God will protect them and the ministry God has given them from:
Pride
Love of fame
Love of money
Desire for the approval of people rather than the approval of God
Being worried about offending people
Compromising God’s Word
Sexual temptation
Demonic attacks
Persecution (from outside the Church and inside the Church)
5
You can pray for their PHYSICAL HEALTH and that God will heal all their health problems.
6
You can pray for their MENTAL HEALTH. Pastors and Christian workers often have stress and battle discouragement and depression. Please God touch them and heal them of all mental and emotional problems and distress.
They can also sometimes be hurt by the people they serve or by other Christian leaders - so we can pray that this won’t happen but that if it does that God will heal these wounds and strengthen His servants to forgive each other and that God will restore unity for His Glory.
7
You can pray that God will bless and protect their families.
Satan often attacks Christian workers by attacking their loved ones.
So you can pray that their family members will all have a good walk with God, have good sound doctrine, that God will protect them all from demonic attacks, that God will also bless and protect their physical and mental health, heal them of all infirmities, and that God will bless all their family relationships so that there is peace and love in their families.
You can pray that God especially blesses and protects all areas and parts of their marriages, so that they will not be tempted to look elsewhere.
Also please God bless their marriages especially so that they can be a model and example for other Christians.
8
You can pray that God will abundantly bless and protect the finances of the ministries and also the personal finances of God’s servants (especially finances needed for health or medical expenses).
You can pray that they always have abundant finances so that they can always do every good work God wants them to do.
9
You can pray that God blesses and protects the relationships between Christian co-workers in ministries - so that no jealousy or strife or bitterness takes root. That they will all have Christian unity and that their focus will be on God getting all the glory and rejoice in any and all work for God.
10
You can pray that God prevents any technical or logistical or legal or any type of problems for their ministry, but if they have any such issues/problems that God will help them resolve/fix and totally solve and remove these problems.
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If it’s an internet (e.g. TH-cam) ministry you can pray that God will help the videos spread on those platforms and get many views and that God will use the videos to bring many people to repentance and faith in Jesus.
12
You can pray that God will help Christian leaders be good shepherds of Jesus’ sheep and continue to feed Jesus’ sheep, and that they will not only convert people, but also disciple new converts so that they can grow and develop and mature in a healthy and supported way.
13
You can pray that God will give them the heart of a servant.
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You can pray that God gives them wisdom and helps them and powerfully guides them when making all decisions and plans.
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You can pray that if they make mistakes or sin that God will grant them humility and repentance and restore them.
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You can pray that more Christians will pray consistently for Christian leaders/pastors/shepherds/workers/ministries.
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You could make a list of pastors/ministries you want to support and pray for them regularly.
Jesus said:
“ when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will REWARD you.”
Matthew 6:6
14 more BIBLICAL prayer points for praying for the LOST:
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You can pray for God to draw more people to Jesus and to grant more people to come to Jesus.
Jesus said:
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them"
John 6:44
Jesus said:
“No one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”
John 6:65
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You can pray that God will REVEAL the reality and truth about Jesus to more people.
"Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not REVEALED to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in Heaven."
Matthew 16:16-17
"At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and REVEALED them to little children."
Matthew 11:25
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You can pray that God will teach more people.
Jesus said:
"It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’
Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him COMES TO ME."
John 6:45
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You can pray that God will open more hearts to attend to His message.
"The Lord opened her heart to attend to the things being spoken by Paul."
Acts 16:14
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You can pray for more laborers.
"Then Jesus said to his disciples, “The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few; therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest.”"
Matthew 9:37-38
Jesus said:
“The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest."
Luke 10:2
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You can pray that God will use these labourers to OPEN MORE EYES and turn more people from darkness to light.
Jesus said:
"I send thee (Paul), TO OPEN THEIR EYES, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me."
Acts 26:17-18
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You can pray that God will grant more people repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth:
“in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth”
2 Timothy 2:25
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You can pray for more opportunities to share the Gospel, and for God to open more doors for effective work:
"And pray for us, too, that God may open a door for our message, so that we may proclaim the mystery of Christ, for which I am in chains."
Colossians 4:3
“ because a great door for effective work has opened to me”
1 Corinthians 16:9
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You can pray that God will give all Christians the boldness to share the gospel.
"Lord... grant to your servants to continue to speak your word with all boldness... And when they had prayed... they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and continued to speak the word of God with boldness."
Acts 4:29-31
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You can pray that Christians will speak boldly RELYING ON THE LORD:
“ they spent a long time there speaking boldly with reliance upon the Lord”
Acts 14:3
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You can pray that God will give us all the right words to say.
"Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel,"
Ephesians 6:19
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You can pray that God will give more people eyes to see and ears to hear so that they would turn to God and God would heal them.
“while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand…..
OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT SEE WITH THEIR EYES,
HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,
UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART, AND RETURN,
AND I WOULD HEAL THEM.’
But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear.”
Matthew 13:13…16
“The hearing ear and the seeing eye, The Lord has made both of them.”
Proverbs 20:12
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You can pray that God will even open blind eyes and bring prisoners living in spiritual darkness out into the light of Jesus:
“a light to the nations,
To open blind eyes,
To bring out prisoners from the dungeon
And those who dwell in darkness from the prison.”
Isaiah 42:7
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“pray for us that the word of the Lord will spread rapidly and be glorified”
2 Thessalonians 3:1
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You can pray that we will have more of God's love in our hearts for the lost so that we will not be afraid to share the Gospel, but that God's love in us will override any fears and make it automatic that we share the gospel in love.
If there was a frozen lake, you wouldn't want to go swimming in it.
But if a small child fell in, you would automatically dive in to save them.
We can pray for love that will cause us to act.
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"Devote yourselves to prayer, being watchful and thankful."
Colossians 4:2
Jesus told us multiple times throughout Scripture to watch and pray always.
We can pray this for the whole of humanity too! *Glory be to God*
@@youbetyourwrasse May God bless you and your loved ones abundantly!
Here's the end of the whole relative argument right here: "If it's all your truth is yours & my truth is mine" then I should be able to exact violence or steal from a person & I shouldn't suffer any of the consequences cause no one is right & no one is wrong."
Wait.... Didn't the man who said there's no true or false just call something false?
Yes. They use our language for themselves to make a truth claim, and then deny there exists any absolute truth claim.. This is the core of presuppositional apologetics (as opposed to classical apologetics.) You allow them to snare themselves with their own words. The Evidence Study Bible and the Evangleical Guidebook shown in the video are two resources that have assisted my understanding. They just dig a pit and fall in. And then they are more willing to be guided out.