This is great! I'm a historical reenactor based out of central Louisiana, these days mainly focusing on 18th and 19th century artillery impressions, my unit does war of 1812 British Royal Artillery, and Royal Spanish artillery from the Rev War period. When we demonstrate for the public at places like Oakley Plantation, for the battle of Fort New Richmond, they have no idea who we are for the most part, they have never heard of Galvez, and most didn't even realize Spain was involved at all! It's a very overlooked time in our state's history, but a fascinating one!
@nathanirby4273 Spain paid for the Yorktown campaign paying both the French and Continental soldiers who hadn't been paid for several months and years causing several mutinees and also paid and refurbished Degrasse's French fleet allowing Degrasse to travel to both the Chesapeake and later Yorktown which Spain also had a huge role in the military planning which is why the Spanish Ambassador was invited to the Yorktown victory celebration in October of last year 2023! Spain protected French possessions in the Caribbean allowing Degrasse to travel to his destination freely without worry and it was Spanish General Bernardo de Gálvez who was kind and generous enough to release his own French troops under Spanish command and ALLOWED Degrasse to take them to go reinforce Rochambeau at Yorktown! Bernie didn't have to do that but he was very generous! Spain also sent muskets to Saratoga in coordination with the French in 1777! Spain also sent weapons to the American Colonies inside French ships from France. When the ships arrived everyone assumed the entire cargo was only French lol! Spain tipped the balance in favor of the American Revolution! France alone could never have led the 13 Colonies to victory! Not without Spain! Thanks Spain!
Excellent talk! I really enjoyed Kathleen Duval's Independence Lost, which has a strong emphasis on Spain's importance in the Gulf Coast during the Revolution. This is yet another nice addition to the historiography of Vast Early America! I'll definitely be purchasing the book and working some of this info into my lectures next time I teach HIST 1301!
Very few Spanish settled in Louisiana as compared to California, which is why you don't see a lot of Spanish names in Louisiana. Almost all their officials and soldiers were only there temporarily and then moved on to other colonies or went back to Spain. Nevertheless, some officials and soldiers did remain (often intermarrying with the local French Creoles, becoming French speakers, and plantation owners) so you do have a few Spanish Creole place names and familial names in Louisiana, like Gonzales, Viator, and Perez. There was also a couple of very small Filipino settlements living Venice style along the coast. The Filipinos got to Louisiana by jumping ship while sailing on Spanish ships transiting along the coast of Louisiana. Spain struggle to bring in Spanish settlers so they advertised for settlers in Germany and brought the first German settlers to North America by settling them along the Mississippi River in Louisiana, north of New Orleans. These Germans progeny ended up becoming French speaking Creoles, as their culture mixed with and was subsumed by the dominant French culture. The Spanish also were the ones to let in the Acadians/Cajuns as discussed in Dr. Turnbell's talk. Oliver Pollock, the Irish-Spanish New Orleans merchant, who played such a large role during the Revolution is buried in Mississippi just north of the Louisiana state line, between Natchez and St. Francisville. He had lived and owned land in West Feliciana Parish (in West Florida) but died and was buried at his daughter's home in Mississippi.
Spain paid for the Yorktown campaign paying both the French and Continental soldiers who hadn't been paid for several months and years causing several mutinees and also paid and refurbished Degrasse's French fleet allowing Degrasse to travel to both the Chesapeake and later Yorktown which Spain also had a huge role in the military planning which is why the Spanish Ambassador was invited to the Yorktown victory celebration in October of last year 2023! Spain protected French possessions in the Caribbean allowing Degrasse to travel to his destination freely without worry and it was Spanish General Bernardo de Gálvez who was kind and generous enough to release his own French troops under Spanish command and ALLOWED Degrasse to take them to go reinforce Rochambeau at Yorktown! Bernie didn't have to do that but he was very generous!
Very interesting topic. Appreciate Dr. Turnbell's presentation. As a commoner I always wondered why there was a Spanish monument in the French Quarter of New Orleans. I just do not remember anything from my history classes that explain this French Territory becoming Spanish Territory becoming a French Territory again, and finally purchased by an opportunistic Thomas Jefferson. I appreciate Dr. Turnbell trying to explain this. Its seems the expansionist European powers or empires of England, France, and Spain were fighting each other and local indigenous population to take as much land around the world as possible. The English, French, and Spanish enslaved Africans and transported Africans to the Americas to work as slaves for European overlords. Stealing land from indigenous Americans and enslaving Africans as a way to accumulate wealth for the wily English, French, and Spanish. That seems to be a recurring theme in the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Unfortunately, I am still confused. Dr. Turnbell mention there were exchanges in the possession of what is now Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. Why were there territorial exchanges, and from one government to another government and back again? That is still unclear. This is why I did not study history in college. Science is logical and make sense. After Dr. Turnbell's presentation I know what happened but I do not why or how it happen. I feel like I do not really know what happened. It is sort of like listening American and English politicians running for political office. They give you a lot of information but it does not make any sense.
All you gotta know Sir is without Spain the American Revolution would have been lost! Spain tipped the balance of the American Revolution and led her to victory! France alone could never have won the war! Not without Spain!
@AustinB.3322 France has always been a disaster and the Spanish knew it! The French tried to replace Admiral Luis de Cordova from taking command of the Spanish fleet to which Floridablanca absolutely flat out refused! The decisions of France would have been a catastrophy for the triumph of the American Revolution!
This is great! I'm a historical reenactor based out of central Louisiana, these days mainly focusing on 18th and 19th century artillery impressions, my unit does war of 1812 British Royal Artillery, and Royal Spanish artillery from the Rev War period. When we demonstrate for the public at places like Oakley Plantation, for the battle of Fort New Richmond, they have no idea who we are for the most part, they have never heard of Galvez, and most didn't even realize Spain was involved at all! It's a very overlooked time in our state's history, but a fascinating one!
I. Live in mandeville...how does one get into that?
@nathanirby4273 Spain paid for the Yorktown campaign paying both the French and Continental soldiers who hadn't been paid for several months and years causing several mutinees and also paid and refurbished Degrasse's French fleet allowing Degrasse to travel to both the Chesapeake and later Yorktown which Spain also had a huge role in the military planning which is why the Spanish Ambassador was invited to the Yorktown victory celebration in October of last year 2023!
Spain protected French possessions in the Caribbean allowing Degrasse to travel to his destination freely without worry and it was Spanish General Bernardo de Gálvez who was kind and generous enough to release his own French troops under Spanish command and ALLOWED Degrasse to take them to go reinforce Rochambeau at Yorktown! Bernie didn't have to do that but he was very generous!
Spain also sent muskets to Saratoga in coordination with the French in 1777!
Spain also sent weapons to the American Colonies inside French ships from France. When the ships arrived everyone assumed the entire cargo was only French lol!
Spain tipped the balance in favor of the American Revolution!
France alone could never have led the 13 Colonies to victory! Not without Spain!
Thanks Spain!
This is a very knowledgeable and well spoken presentation on a lesser-known theatre of the American Revolution.
I grew up in Natchez, MS. Would love to see more presentations and lectures about the Old Southwest.
Excellent talk! I really enjoyed Kathleen Duval's Independence Lost, which has a strong emphasis on Spain's importance in the Gulf Coast during the Revolution. This is yet another nice addition to the historiography of Vast Early America! I'll definitely be purchasing the book and working some of this info into my lectures next time I teach HIST 1301!
Very few Spanish settled in Louisiana as compared to California, which is why you don't see a lot of Spanish names in Louisiana. Almost all their officials and soldiers were only there temporarily and then moved on to other colonies or went back to Spain. Nevertheless, some officials and soldiers did remain (often intermarrying with the local French Creoles, becoming French speakers, and plantation owners) so you do have a few Spanish Creole place names and familial names in Louisiana, like Gonzales, Viator, and Perez. There was also a couple of very small Filipino settlements living Venice style along the coast. The Filipinos got to Louisiana by jumping ship while sailing on Spanish ships transiting along the coast of Louisiana.
Spain struggle to bring in Spanish settlers so they advertised for settlers in Germany and brought the first German settlers to North America by settling them along the Mississippi River in Louisiana, north of New Orleans. These Germans progeny ended up becoming French speaking Creoles, as their culture mixed with and was subsumed by the dominant French culture. The Spanish also were the ones to let in the Acadians/Cajuns as discussed in Dr. Turnbell's talk.
Oliver Pollock, the Irish-Spanish New Orleans merchant, who played such a large role during the Revolution is buried in Mississippi just north of the Louisiana state line, between Natchez and St. Francisville. He had lived and owned land in West Feliciana Parish (in West Florida) but died and was buried at his daughter's home in Mississippi.
Spain paid for the Yorktown campaign paying both the French and Continental soldiers who hadn't been paid for several months and years causing several mutinees and also paid and refurbished Degrasse's French fleet allowing Degrasse to travel to both the Chesapeake and later Yorktown which Spain also had a huge role in the military planning which is why the Spanish Ambassador was invited to the Yorktown victory celebration in October of last year 2023!
Spain protected French possessions in the Caribbean allowing Degrasse to travel to his destination freely without worry and it was Spanish General Bernardo de Gálvez who was kind and generous enough to release his own French troops under Spanish command and ALLOWED Degrasse to take them to go reinforce Rochambeau at Yorktown!
Bernie didn't have to do that but he was very generous!
I am still concerned about the unlicensed peddlers and the sharing of ideas in unpoliced spaces.
Very interesting topic. Appreciate Dr. Turnbell's presentation. As a commoner I always wondered why there was a Spanish monument in the French Quarter of New Orleans. I just do not remember anything from my history classes that explain this French Territory becoming Spanish Territory becoming a French Territory again, and finally purchased by an opportunistic Thomas Jefferson. I appreciate Dr. Turnbell trying to explain this. Its seems the expansionist European powers or empires of England, France, and Spain were fighting each other and local indigenous population to take as much land around the world as possible. The English, French, and Spanish enslaved Africans and transported Africans to the Americas to work as slaves for European overlords. Stealing land from indigenous Americans and enslaving Africans as a way to accumulate wealth for the wily English, French, and Spanish. That seems to be a recurring theme in the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Unfortunately, I am still confused. Dr. Turnbell mention there were exchanges in the possession of what is now Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. Why were there territorial exchanges, and from one government to another government and back again? That is still unclear. This is why I did not study history in college. Science is logical and make sense. After Dr. Turnbell's presentation I know what happened but I do not why or how it happen. I feel like I do not really know what happened. It is sort of like listening American and English politicians running for political office. They give you a lot of information but it does not make any sense.
All you gotta know Sir is without Spain the American Revolution would have been lost!
Spain tipped the balance of the American Revolution and led her to victory!
France alone could never have won the war! Not without Spain!
Too many ums.
France abandoned us.
@AustinB.3322 France has always been a disaster and the Spanish knew it!
The French tried to replace Admiral Luis de Cordova from taking command of the Spanish fleet to which Floridablanca absolutely flat out refused!
The decisions of France would have been a catastrophy for the triumph of the American Revolution!
@AustinB.3322 F France!!!!
@@CheerfulFerryBoat-ug8gr We shouldn't have helped them in WW2.