"Grizzly Man" was a great doc. It explored the perils of a life spent too close to nature and too far outside of the realm of society and technology. I'm very interested in watching this one, as well. It seems that it explores the perils of lives spent too close to technology and too far outside the realm of society and nature.
Hell yes! Just found out this film is showing at a microtheater near me here in West Virginia! Can't wait to see it. I was among the first to grow up online. I got Internet access at 12 years old, before the web was even a thing, through dialup to a local college mainframe. Totally text based, images had to be individually selected, downloaded, and viewed offline. 300 bytes per second was a good transfer rate when I started (2400 baud modem). I would have suffocated intellectually if I had to grow up without the Internet at my beck and call. I quit my job a year and a half ago and now I do custom software and web programming work from home over the Internet, still here in West Virginia. The Internet is marvelous. I do hope, though, that the "will our children or grandchildren need human companionship" quote was taken out of context. Humans evolved to be profoundly social. In the early 1900s, an idea got popular in society that touching children affectionately made them weak. A hospital eventually adopted a "no touching" policy for infants. And babies started dying. 'Failure to thrive' they called it. Perfectly healthy babies, given plenty of food, water, warmth, everything they could possibly need to survive. The only thing they lacked was the affectionate touch of another human being. And that alone was enough to kill them. No, we will not lose a need for human companionship. The Internet is successful because it makes that companionship BETTER and untethers it from geography and some of the negative consequences of in-person interaction (like the tendency for charismatic people to dominate a discussion regardless of the quality of their ideas). But oh my, the Internet will change everything else. I fully expect the standard work world to disappear with the majority (but not all) people working online from home, large companies being dismantled since they no longer offer value to anyone (most actively destroy value now). But that will lead to a rebirth of local communities as people find themselves IN their community more, rather than losing hours every day commuting, working more than anyone needs them to, and being drained by the time they make it back home.
Herzog's genius shows up in elements like the soundtrack. Vivaldi's Four Seasons. A hymn to nature and the overbearing life of the seasons in vivid contrast to cold steel robots and the incorporeal thoughts of the net. I do not wish to become a neural flick of electricity. Long life to beasts and animal spirits.
Actually, more than contrasting with the documentary, I thought it had quite some similarities as well. Like a the buzzing of a mechanical beehive of wires and circuits.
What I like about Herzog's style is that he always sees and portrays things through the objective lense. He sees the benefits in even the things he don't necessarily agree with.
1:16 That's Lesli Catsouras and her family. Mother of the now deceased Nicole "Nikki" Catsouras. She took her dads Porsche out and crashed it into a concrete toll booth. Which destroyed the car and killed her instantly it also destroyed Nikki's head and photographs of the scene were leaked onto the internet just do a Google search for her name (warning they are graphics) Her head is literally exploded. Once these images got leaked, the family then got emails of the pics to sent to them and the people sending were taunting the family with things like "Hey look daddy, I'm alive" with the grotesque pictures. The internet brings out evil in people.
Best laughs I've had in a long time and so many ridiculous questions and comments to misquote. "Do you like to fold shirts?" "Send me to Mars, a one way ticket." "Those bubbles tell a story." "Do you love the robot?" "No further introduction needed... [goes on to introduce him]" "I like smelling the old bits" "You are the most sane person in this room." Tbf, that last one would make a great line in a thriller/slasher film. Still, nothing beats the "is this for real?" expression on some of their faces during the interviews. That is the best. Soccer robot guy was my personal favorite.
I had no idea Herzog just made this film. His documentaries are usually good in an intelligent way. Sounds like it is time for me to pay a visit to the cinema for the first time in about 5 years...
Bob Seidensticker vs Ray Kurzweil? Meh. Ray's way smarter and actually has accomplished way, way more than Bob. TH-cam Ray Kurzweil and you will understand that Bob has at best, a shaky platform for his arguments. Who can you trust a guy who has displayed strong predictive ability in technology developments or a guy that has no predictions/comparative accomplishments just an "it ain't so" mentality?
Did you read the book? Because Seidensticker is not saying "it ain't so". He just suggests a healthy dose of scepticism which can be good thing. If Seidensticker is not "smart and accomplished" enough for you, then maybe listen to what Jaron Lanier has to say about Kurzweil's ideas about A.I and the singularity.
If ANYONE knows the particular version of Vivaldi's "Summer" that they're using here, I would appreciate it very much! It sounds heavy and full of bass, which gives it a power I rarely hear from it. Maybe it's a normal recording with some trailer effects added on top, but it's a shame a version like this doesn't exist independent of the voices and sounds of the trailer.
I know it's the Presto! :) I didn't ask what movement it was, but what version of the movement, of the Presto, that this was. I was interested, and STILL AM interested, in knowing from which particular recording this comes from. It could be something from Varese Sarabande or not; it could be conducted by Karajan or some current conductor. I don't care. I want to know where this comes from. That's what I'm curious about. I want to know which version of it this is. ;) I'm not expecting someone to know, but I'm just leaving this here just in case someone ever knows where exactly this comes from. Otherwise, I'll just extract the music as best I can using an audio editing program. Thank you for replying, though!!! ;)
Krause says, "Will our children's children's children need the companionship of humans? Or will they have evolved in a world where that's not important?" The correct question is, Will they have Devolved in a world where that's not important? We're already well on our way of achieving that nightmare scenario.
Yeah, what I was trying to point out is that there's essentially no difference between the two anyway. Is it not good enough that our thoughts have the capability to move our arms and hands in an instant?
It means you can tweet exactly what you are thinking, words always trigger different thoughts in different people. You could let someone experience the exact thought the way you had it, no matter the language or background the receiving person might have.
You are right, I watched this documentary and he said that in the future you might be able to capture a thought and tweet it so others could then read it. Which is indeed not anywhere near as cool since it would be somewhat of a substitute for typing. On the other hand controlling a computer with your thoughts using that same technology sounds pretty cool. An other benefit might be that you could create perfect translations of your thoughts for different languages, since you are not typing sentences in a specific language any more.
Love this trailer - looks like the movie is one of a nearly documentary "fashion" And yeah - you showed too much, when Monks stop meditating = something's gone completely wrong :D
That guy at the chalkboard had me like, "wtf"? You could literally see his thoughts moving through his hand as he wrote; Sort of a shaky, wiggly action.
I laughed when the woman said she moved to a place with no cell phone contact, as if moving to a place with no cell phone contact was unimaginable...Welcome to Marine! :-D
It is interesting. Questions I would like answered include and excuse me if i sound like a dummy. Does the internet in its current and future forms take up space so to speak. Does it overlap our own biochemical bioelectrical systems and affect those. I have the experience of our thoughts in the past decade and probably the ones people have been typing has been like a psychological war. Did they know that another more ethereal net was created via peoples energy system that is supposedly multi dimensional and supposedly a healing net. Does it the internet become part of a fractal reality? Lets hope that none of it is real otherwise we will have issues to deal with. It obviously creates a sound which we know the old version of dial up. We can be affected by this. How does ai or a computer generated brain account for the impact of this on the unconscious planes of reality if we perceive things even beyond our physical brains. I know I am affected by a sound i hear in the distance which I have heard in a shop near here?? SO many questions as to why we may be affected negatively. Somehow, it feels a little late to be asking these questions.
The question is: how fast will it happen? Will we be able to adapt or will people hold on to their jobs with their claws untill the the education system collapses, the white male terrorist phenomena start to force itself on people when happenings become more and more frequent, the mental health crisis continue to grow and environmental fugitives start to destabilize the geopolitical order. Will these kinds of crises need to happen in order for people to see that the most efficient economical ecosystem is this merger between renewable energy and automation -- that human time/attention is a neglected resource in the present state of affairs.
I've always thought about this. Haven't we, in effect, created God? An all seeing, all knowing, (hypothetically) eternal place where our online artifices can live forever?
Aw... he's just trying to get out of his mind those pitiful cries of poor Timothy Treadwell being eaten by a grizzly. Or maybe those pitiful cries of poor Klaus Kinski as he is slowly being squeezed to death (figuratively) between a big boat and Claudia Cardinale.
"Grizzly Man" was a great doc. It explored the perils of a life spent too close to nature and too far outside of the realm of society and technology. I'm very interested in watching this one, as well. It seems that it explores the perils of lives spent too close to technology and too far outside the realm of society and nature.
My brother and I played some of the bluegrass music in this movie. Highly recommend. Werner is a great director and individual.
Hell yes! Just found out this film is showing at a microtheater near me here in West Virginia! Can't wait to see it. I was among the first to grow up online. I got Internet access at 12 years old, before the web was even a thing, through dialup to a local college mainframe. Totally text based, images had to be individually selected, downloaded, and viewed offline. 300 bytes per second was a good transfer rate when I started (2400 baud modem). I would have suffocated intellectually if I had to grow up without the Internet at my beck and call. I quit my job a year and a half ago and now I do custom software and web programming work from home over the Internet, still here in West Virginia. The Internet is marvelous.
I do hope, though, that the "will our children or grandchildren need human companionship" quote was taken out of context. Humans evolved to be profoundly social. In the early 1900s, an idea got popular in society that touching children affectionately made them weak. A hospital eventually adopted a "no touching" policy for infants. And babies started dying. 'Failure to thrive' they called it. Perfectly healthy babies, given plenty of food, water, warmth, everything they could possibly need to survive. The only thing they lacked was the affectionate touch of another human being. And that alone was enough to kill them.
No, we will not lose a need for human companionship. The Internet is successful because it makes that companionship BETTER and untethers it from geography and some of the negative consequences of in-person interaction (like the tendency for charismatic people to dominate a discussion regardless of the quality of their ideas). But oh my, the Internet will change everything else. I fully expect the standard work world to disappear with the majority (but not all) people working online from home, large companies being dismantled since they no longer offer value to anyone (most actively destroy value now). But that will lead to a rebirth of local communities as people find themselves IN their community more, rather than losing hours every day commuting, working more than anyone needs them to, and being drained by the time they make it back home.
Herzog's genius shows up in elements like the soundtrack. Vivaldi's Four Seasons.
A hymn to nature and the overbearing life of the seasons in vivid contrast to cold steel robots and the incorporeal thoughts of the net. I do not wish to become a neural flick of electricity. Long life to beasts and animal spirits.
Sorry Dear, we are all already but a mere neural flick in the grande scheme.
Maybe you are. I live in italy where rules are options
Actually, more than contrasting with the documentary, I thought it had quite some similarities as well. Like a the buzzing of a mechanical beehive of wires and circuits.
"i would come along" musk's nod hahaha
What I like about Herzog's style is that he always sees and portrays things through the objective lense. He sees the benefits in even the things he don't necessarily agree with.
1:16 That's Lesli Catsouras and her family. Mother of the now deceased Nicole "Nikki" Catsouras. She took her dads Porsche out and crashed it into a concrete toll booth. Which destroyed the car and killed her instantly it also destroyed Nikki's head and photographs of the scene were leaked onto the internet just do a Google search for her name (warning they are graphics) Her head is literally exploded. Once these images got leaked, the family then got emails of the pics to sent to them and the people sending were taunting the family with things like "Hey look daddy, I'm alive" with the grotesque pictures.
The internet brings out evil in people.
that's fucked up.
"Of course not."
obvious! (anyway there were many madman among those scientists, bah )
That's Mr. Herzog for you :D
Hahaha Amazing.
Herzogs complete work should be the sole content on the next golden record.
Reading comments, I imagine them all in Hertzog's voice
I wish my girlfriend had the voice of herzog
Thats a unique fetish.
@@JamanWerSonst All men wish for this, if they don't, they are lying to them selves
He really has a brilliant voice.
Larry! I told you to stop getting on the internet, and talking about Herzog... Now get in here and help me with dinner!
Men...🙄🙄🙄🙄
Only Mr. Herzog can make baking look sinister.
lol
looks like it's all vampires
Muffin burnt? Yes, sorry, we were glued to the computer screen.
Absolutely brilliant shot. ONLY Mr. Herzog could make baking look sinister.
monks were not tweeting; they were catching a rattata
***** god only knows
That was my first thought as well
"Sonof a bitch, not a another fucking pidgey." - Monk, probably
Best laughs I've had in a long time and so many ridiculous questions and comments to misquote.
"Do you like to fold shirts?"
"Send me to Mars, a one way ticket."
"Those bubbles tell a story."
"Do you love the robot?"
"No further introduction needed... [goes on to introduce him]"
"I like smelling the old bits"
"You are the most sane person in this room."
Tbf, that last one would make a great line in a thriller/slasher film.
Still, nothing beats the "is this for real?" expression on some of their faces during the interviews. That is the best. Soccer robot guy was my personal favorite.
I had no idea Herzog just made this film. His documentaries are usually good in an intelligent way. Sounds like it is time for me to pay a visit to the cinema for the first time in about 5 years...
Perhaps Werner could make a documentary on this rare venture...
Oooooh as soon as they showed the weirdos I was in
1:19 wow what a happy family!!!
You obviously don't know who they are
I just watched it. Great stuff.
Speculating on the things to come is nice and all, but before you get too carried away I'd suggest reading the book Future Hype (2006).
Bob Seidensticker vs Ray Kurzweil? Meh. Ray's way smarter and actually has accomplished way, way more than Bob. TH-cam Ray Kurzweil and you will understand that Bob has at best, a shaky platform for his arguments.
Who can you trust a guy who has displayed strong predictive ability in technology developments or a guy that has no predictions/comparative accomplishments just an "it ain't so" mentality?
Did you read the book? Because Seidensticker is not saying "it ain't so". He just suggests a healthy dose of scepticism which can be good thing. If Seidensticker is not "smart and accomplished" enough for you, then maybe listen to what Jaron Lanier has to say about Kurzweil's ideas about A.I and the singularity.
So excited for this!!
really enjoyed this - fascinating.
I am more interested in the release of this film than I have been interested in any film released in the last 10 years.
If ANYONE knows the particular version of Vivaldi's "Summer" that they're using here, I would appreciate it very much! It sounds heavy and full of bass, which gives it a power I rarely hear from it.
Maybe it's a normal recording with some trailer effects added on top, but it's a shame a version like this doesn't exist independent of the voices and sounds of the trailer.
It is the Presto, my son. Or, "Concierto No. 2 in G-minor"
I know it's the Presto! :) I didn't ask what movement it was, but what version of the movement, of the Presto, that this was.
I was interested, and STILL AM interested, in knowing from which particular recording this comes from. It could be something from Varese Sarabande or not; it could be conducted by Karajan or some current conductor. I don't care. I want to know where this comes from. That's what I'm curious about. I want to know which version of it this is. ;)
I'm not expecting someone to know, but I'm just leaving this here just in case someone ever knows where exactly this comes from. Otherwise, I'll just extract the music as best I can using an audio editing program.
Thank you for replying, though!!! ;)
i searched imdb to no avail :( apologies m'liege
Is this still worth a watch 7 years later?
Good old sexy-voiced Hedgehog!
:)
BENTLEYQUAMP yep, it's very calming.
“The monks are tweeting” would have been a good title for the film.
very exciting release!
This is fantastic!
Krause says, "Will our children's children's children need the companionship of humans? Or will they have evolved in a world where that's not important?" The correct question is, Will they have Devolved in a world where that's not important? We're already well on our way of achieving that nightmare scenario.
I thought I was tweeting thoughts. What have I been tweeting?
I think he means directly tweet from mind to internet. No sending a signal to your muscles and fingers to type into a phone.
Yeah, what I was trying to point out is that there's essentially no difference between the two anyway. Is it not good enough that our thoughts have the capability to move our arms and hands in an instant?
It means you can tweet exactly what you are thinking, words always trigger different thoughts in different people. You could let someone experience the exact thought the way you had it, no matter the language or background the receiving person might have.
thebowman2 That's not what the man said.
You are right, I watched this documentary and he said that in the future you might be able to capture a thought and tweet it so others could then read it. Which is indeed not anywhere near as cool since it would be somewhat of a substitute for typing. On the other hand controlling a computer with your thoughts using that same technology sounds pretty cool. An other benefit might be that you could create perfect translations of your thoughts for different languages, since you are not typing sentences in a specific language any more.
Can't wait to see this
can't wait for this
Elons face is priceless,
Nothing external can be evil, it all starts in the human mind and translates into something external.
dat voice
In German, "Herzog" means duke. And that he is.
he made up his name
Awesome movie!
Herzog for Blade Runner 3?
Narated by Giorgio Moroder :)
when i was sixteen...
machines will make movies, will they be as good as yours?
-OF COURSE NOT
Made me LOL
Love this trailer - looks like the movie is one of a nearly documentary "fashion"
And yeah - you showed too much, when Monks stop meditating = something's gone completely wrong :D
That clip from 00:00 to 00:40 is the only clip from the movie that SHOULD NOT be on the Trailer.
The Internet was invented in Europe, enhancing communication between research institutions (f.e. KFKI in Hungary and CERN in France).
You're talking about the World Wide Web, not the Internet. First message was sent from UCLA to SRI in 1969.
Germane. Hit nail on head
That guy at the chalkboard had me like, "wtf"? You could literally see his thoughts moving through his hand as he wrote; Sort of a shaky, wiggly action.
THE BACKGROUND SYMPHONY NAME PLEASE
Pretty sure it's Vivaldi's four seasons.
"the winter"
0:18 OMG! DO u believe That's machine was built in 1979 ?!
is that guy playing BC2 1:48
How and when can I watch this in the uk?
amazon video
it's showing on big screens inside all UK Argos stores on 16-09-16 @2pm... Elon Musk will be at the Argos on Stockwell Street in person from 1pm...
use pirate website if you want it free
Its on Netflix now
Scary.
I laughed when the woman said she moved to a place with no cell phone contact, as if moving to a place with no cell phone contact was unimaginable...Welcome to Marine! :-D
beginning music song?
need add some sounds of the old telepon-modem 56k
All monks have stopped meditating. They all seem to be tweeting to God, real time.
Vivaldi
Werner's next documentary is gonna be be about the absurdity of memes....
background music pls?
Antonio Vivaldi - Summer
The guy interrupting the speakers made me and the speaker very uncomfortable!
Wait for the download so you can fast forward through it. Some of it is good, the scenes shown here mostly, the rest is all nonsense.
Internet is the manifestation of evil itself :DD ... haha all the freaks in the trailer... :D
gonna watch it...
This is a fascinating film that reveals the many positive aspects of the Internet, along with potentially life threatening warnings. Yikes!
LOL and Behold
It is interesting. Questions I would like answered include and excuse me if i sound like a dummy. Does the internet in its current and future forms take up space so to speak. Does it overlap our own biochemical bioelectrical systems and affect those. I have the experience of our thoughts in the past decade and probably the ones people have been typing has been like a psychological war. Did they know that another more ethereal net was created via peoples energy system that is supposedly multi dimensional and supposedly a healing net. Does it the internet become part of a fractal reality? Lets hope that none of it is real otherwise we will have issues to deal with. It obviously creates a sound which we know the old version of dial up. We can be affected by this. How does ai or a computer generated brain account for the impact of this on the unconscious planes of reality if we perceive things even beyond our physical brains. I know I am affected by a sound i hear in the distance which I have heard in a shop near here?? SO many questions as to why we may be affected negatively. Somehow, it feels a little late to be asking these questions.
2:15 to 2:30 is so funny xD
لماذا غير مترجم عربى
Music name pls?
It's a beautiful isn't it! Here is the name: Antonio Vivaldi - L'estate RV 315.
Daniel Davis thanks!
In English, "Summer", from "The Five Seasons".
Tweet thots? Don't we have this already?
Herzog: If Arnold Schwarzenegger and Forrest Gump had a love child
👍🏻
lmao them monks
Joydeep Biswas (robocup guy) 1000% would date
Giorgio Moroder, is that you speaking?
Monks no longer meditating? We are in the dark ages indeed.
The question is: how fast will it happen? Will we be able to adapt or will people hold on to their jobs with their claws untill the the education system collapses, the white male terrorist phenomena start to force itself on people when happenings become more and more frequent, the mental health crisis continue to grow and environmental fugitives start to destabilize the geopolitical order. Will these kinds of crises need to happen in order for people to see that the most efficient economical ecosystem is this merger between renewable energy and automation -- that human time/attention is a neglected resource in the present state of affairs.
Creation of virtual reality in also virtual vorld is not a surprise!Suprising is how inslaved people becomed with it.
this sounds like a comedy
Is that Schwarzenegger's voice 🤔
IT Crowd: "This is gentlemen, is the Internet"
How's the film? Hmmmm 🤔
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even the monks need that pokimon go lol
interesting
Is this Arnold Schwarzenegger narrating?
Catsouras🥺
Very keen to, yet haven't seen the movie yet, however this trailer seems to present a very negative bias to the technology of today..
Before covid era
The internet the killer of religion
I've always thought about this. Haven't we, in effect, created God? An all seeing, all knowing, (hypothetically) eternal place where our online artifices can live forever?
And are you saying that this is bad or good?
Ilya S Good.
Depends on your definition. God is usually described as being: all-knowing, all-powerful and all-good.
Anand Debusschere But is he really? God also asks to punish the non-believers in the most violent ways according to many religions
good luck to those who think AI and technology will take over?
Of course not
Aw... he's just trying to get out of his mind those pitiful cries of poor Timothy Treadwell being eaten by a grizzly.
Or maybe those pitiful cries of poor Klaus Kinski as he is slowly being squeezed to death (figuratively) between a big boat and Claudia Cardinale.
internet was born in Netherlands.. watch first 3 seconds and catch a lie!
not enough memes imo
"Internet is the Antichirst" LOL
Apps Salut
to hell with this. I can't watch it in Poland becouse of location restrictions...
"tweet thoughts" like ppl do now you mean? only thing ppl tweet are stupid options and other stupid shit
so sad...
Fuck the internet
Yep the internet is revolutionary.... right up until greedy dickheads start geo-blocking everything to squeeze a couple extra bucks out !!
STOP MAKING OUR LIVES MORE COMPLICATED SO FUCKING FAST!! IT HURTS!
modern Luddite?
No, Herzog and Musk are preaching to the choir, Jaron Lanier and Andrew Keen are a tech luddites.