@@filoIII fair enough. I guess each to thier own. However personally the I4 is 1 of the main reason i like the hornet However the dash of the 2009 up isnt my cup of tea. And for that reason I'd choose the 650f (I assume its still I4 i dont know much about the 650f)
I drive the Trident, first Triumph I ever bought, 48 years of only Yamaha 38 of those on 1000 fours. I really like the Trident, nice smooth engine, have no problems with the throttle, suspension a bit hard but also very good roadholding. Comfortly on very long drives + 500km even with luggage. I am 65 years old, 68 kg and 1,67 m. Very bad right knee and shattered left wrist but still driving.
I also owned the Trident for a while and loved it. I had no problem with the throttle either, aside for a second's latency in the acceleration in lower gears.
@@tonydare7614 Never a problem for me, maybe it's my weight, I am only 68kg. With motorbikeclothing 72kg. Could be, the dealer where I go never had any complaints from not one owner. Belgian or European spec different ?
I own a cb650r because of a number of factors. First it’s beautiful (the all bike if you discount the plate support). Then it’s a authentic 4 pot mid Honda which will be a rare classic in a couple of years. Is sounds marvelous and for a second bike to go around town or in weekend trips, it’s perfect, it’s nimble and small enough that I can move it around easily (it depends on what your used to, but comparing with my GS1200Adventure, it’s very light). I really dislike the new hornet looks (I know it’s a matter of esthetic likes or dislikes but that headlight and fairing…). It may be a very good bike but you have to “feel” something about our stuff, and the 2 cylinder mid capacity Hondas are not for me. If you talk about the Yamahas mt07, mp2 engine your talking about soul, the 4cyl Hondas 650, 750, Triumph 3cyl etc always had always owned there own charisma and factor of fun that’s characteristic and somewhat authentic. Changing that distinctive factor is a comercial mistake in my opinion. Honda should be smart enough to invest in there own clusters and not go with the general flow. The triumph is also lovely and exudes character. The hornet, in my (debatable) opinion, is bland and with no “taste”.
Hi Peter. We rode all three bikes stopped for a coffee and chat then I started filming and talking to the camera. I would hope the Hornet is the best as it’s fresh. Trust me if it wasn’t the best one of the others would have one.
Goes to show how we all have different taste. I think the round head-light looks ugly, like theyre stuck in the 80's. There's probably a method to the madness with the shape of the headlight with the Hornet. Over and over again Hornet reviews say that at speed the Hornet (for a naked bike at least) has a smooth airflow round the rider. Perhaps this is why Honda styled it this way.
I had a new 2021 CB650R and swapped it for a Triumph Street Twin 900 after 1 yr. CB is a lovely bike but have to rev too high, bars too low, seat height for me and average handling. Triumph twin torque with 5 speed is amazing, ride position better all round, leans in on corners so easy, exhaust with Vance and Hines cans is something else, looks better than the 3 tested IMO. Nearly bought a Trident, glad I didn’t. Enjoyed the vid 👍
The CB650R was the only bike I've rode thus far that I was looking for the fastest loop back to the dealership. Just felt too bulky and didn't feel apart of me when I wanted to flick it around.... What I'd love to see is a comparison between the Hornet and two bikes in a different class, the Monster 937 and the Street Triple. Sure, they are more premium, but what percentage of thrills is one getting for the money in comparison?! Can the Hornet punch above it's weight? 🤔
Lool funny explanation. I also agree with the comparison I've heard the triumph get a lot of praise for handling. However this is only word of mouth and haven't experienced it. Same with the MT line from yamaha word of mouth says suspension and brakes are awful.
@@512460 yes, there's a rhetoric going around about the MT line about awful suspension. From what I can ascertain, that stems back from the MT-O7 several releases ago when it WAS awful and spongy. However, Yamaha have improved it since, albeit it still might not be perfect. It seems the rhetoric still continues from when it was worse though. I can attest that my MT-03 has better suspension than what the 07 had when it was underperforming. The Triumphs are fantastic to ride. As is the Monster 937 which is so easy to ride! My Hornet could arrive next week, so I'll soon get a taste comparatively. It seems to tick all the right boxes for me. Small, agile and fast acceleration. Basically what I wish my MT-03 was, as it only ticks 2 out of 3 of those boxes.
Really wish they went neo cafe with the hornet. That front headlight is hideous. Also, wish they stuck a high revving 4 in it like the old Hornets. Like how Kawasaki did with the new ZX4RR!
Yes I noticed that maybe it’s our set up. Will have to go back for another ride. Just chatted about you comment with Rachael and she put it another way as in open it nothing then snatch its off.
OK, I undertand. I have put it against the Trident that so many talk about the throttle being laggy, soft and that you have to twist a lot to get some power. Thanks for answering. @@Geordiebiketester
The Hornet aka the cb500f 2.0... All the hype for those boring aesthetics. The bike is probably very good, but the looks are just plain and nothing interesting about them.
I owned a new CB500f until a recent chance meeting with a deer with little regard for the highway code. Result CB500f 0 (written off) and deer 0 (dead). Decided to upgrade to the Hornet. I won't get it for a couple more weeks but damn that Hornet is just a single kilogram heavier and almost double the power. I'm gonna miss the staggering fuel economy of the 500 though. 😢
@@marcwelstand6791I just got my Hornet 750 after upgrading from my beloved 500f I miss The Great milage And the 17.2 L tank 😂 Other then that It's a perfect bike for me😊
I would rather see the Hornet compared to the new Zuzuki 2 cylinder and the Mt07. The hornet seems like a great bike but i dont like how it looks. And to me a motorcycles looks are important. Honda shouldve made it look more like the cb1000. I dont like all of the over angular naked bikes that keep coming out. With there rock hard passenger seats that are a mile high. And the red frame and forks dont do it for me either. And i dont like the tank with whatever you call those wings pointing out the front of it. I dont know who designs these bikes and thinks that looks good. And the headlight shape everyone is doing now sucks. At least the Honda 650 and Trident look nice. I test road the Honda 650 and didnt like its lack of low end power. I prefer the engine on the MT07. Why couldnt the Hornet look like the new red Triump 765 Street Tripple RS. Honda would sell a billion of them.
Agree. That Zard sounds so good on the Trident! I have the sound on a drop screen and have to click on it every so often. It always creates a smile. The GPR Power Cone is also awesome, but not as cosmetically pleasing.
Oh, wow, motorcycles sound terrible in the UK. I am truly shocked. I imagine there is some law forbidding them from sounding too masculine in order not to trigger the many people with anxiety.
Based solely on the sound on this and other similar videos I'd agree with you. However, you can't really capture the real sound too well with the mic of a go-pro or similar even if you are listening to it on a decent sound system at your end. I asked to listen to a Hornet at my local dealer and believe me the Hornet sounds great in person, it barks like a real beast and is not that quiet. I've got one on order. I noticed a bit of a whine from the triumph reminiscent of a BMW K75 triple I used to own.
@@stephmarshall2746 On PAR w/ HONDA?????????????? NAAA!!!!!!! Reliability Data Table: Number Brand Reliability Rating Likely to Buy Again (%) Average Lasting Mileage (for Touring Motorcycles) 1 Honda 9.2 87.1 100,000+ miles 2 Yamaha 9.0 84.9 80,000+ miles 3 Kawasaki 8.8 82.4 80,000+ miles 4 Suzuki 8.7 81.3 90,000+ miles 5 BMW 8.5 77.2 120,000+ miles 6 Harley-Davidson 8.2 74.9 80,000+ miles 7 Triumph 8.0 72.1 90,000+ miles 8 KTM 7.8 68.7 50,000+ miles 9 Ducati 7.5 65.2 70,000+ miles 10 Indian 7.2 61.9 100,000+ miles
I've ridden all 3 and the CB650R is by far the fastest and smoothest. The Hornet is the best value for money but ugliest. The Trident is a great bike and looks great but the reliability and Triumphs customer service in the UK is terrible.
CB650R is by far the fastest what? Top end? Who cares? We ain't on a track. i-4 ain't practical on the highways and byways. Low-end torque is where it's at.
@@filoIII on highways I would argue an i4 is better, straight line will give the i4 space to scream. I think you mean back roads where the more torque focused p twin will make a difference
@@sleeper.simulant7327 AGAIN, we ain't on a track when on the highways. You know, the speed limit is only 75. Why do you need a bike that realllly comes into its own at 80???? Naaa. Give me low-end. NOT i-4 high end 13k rpm power.
@@filoIII Inline 4’s are nice for overtaking a line of cars on a straight, as they tend to accelerate better at higher speed. Also the CB650R is pulling good by 7,000 rpm, it’s power band is lower in the rev range compared to a 600 super sport
@@fguimara You obviously don't appreciate four cylinder bikes and sound like an accountant. The reason why two cylinder bikes are popular these days is because they are cheaper to manufacture so get yourself a four cylinder bike now because they will be sought after in years to come as future classes in this sterile electric motorcycle world.
@@Apollo949 Twins have a lot more usable power at real road speeds. Also the 270 degree parallel twins sound damn good, a real throaty roar. Inline fours have a very generic sound.
thanks for posting....great video. i have a 660 currently but will be taking delivery of a cbr650r when i get back to my other home next week. hoping that i won't be disappointed in it but i'm looking forward to a bike with more wind protection and that feels more substantial for highway trips. i have to agree with a lot of people that the hornet is an ''interesting'' looking bike. not to my taste but to each his own. btw, i thoroughly enjoy the 660. it's great to have so many good choices available.
I drove the Cb650R from norway all across europe through croatia albania Montenegro Macedonia over to italy and across the alps back home to norway. 3 weeks trip. drove about 7000km. was awesome, but comfort was abit rough for that kind of trip. but totaly worth it. thing i missed was the Low end power. 2 pass cars etc, u need to have it high revs for it to be quick and fun for my taste. but bike is beautiful. got it as my first bike during covid. drove it 12 000 km first year before i tradet it in.
I love my Hornet and for me personally it handles better and sounds great, I had the Triumph Trident 660 but I never gelled with that bike for some reason, I found it uncomfortable. Whereas the Hornet I’ve ridden all day with very little in the way of numb bum and I love that engine.
How long did you have the trident for? I'm seriously considering buying one to replace my CB after I was blindsided by an idiot on her phone, but the reliability of my Honda is making me second guess anything else. Did you have any issues aside from the comfort?
@@WILLGRAYY I had mine just under two years and the only issue I had was the clutch cable kept sticking, they would sort it then after a few months it would do it again. Other people I have spoken haven’t had the same problem, so maybe I was unlucky. Like you I love Honda’s for their reliability, I’ve never had any problems with any of my Honda’s over the years. What ever you decide on enjoy 🏍👍
The Hornet has roughly 30 more horses, I hope Yamaha comes up with a faster MT07 to compete with the current market because their engine sounds so good.
Trident 🔱 it s better than the CBR & should of been second.No doubt the Hornet one as it's in the next class up being a 750 & 90hp a MT 07 is in the same class as CBR 650 & Trident & would of been a better choice.If Hornet didn't win there be something seriously wrong with it being in the next class.Also Kawasaki 650 would be another one in the CBR, Trident,MT07.
@@paradiddlesixix7530 Hornet has the Suzuki 800 now too in the same class & the entry level Triumph 765 Trident 🔱 is a 660 in the 650 class with Z650rs,CBR 650,XSR 700,MTO7 It's like putting the Suzuki 800 in MT09-XSR900,Z900 class😁😆🤣.
I did my mod 1 on the 750 and mod 2 on the 650.. I found low speeds stuff was so much smoother on the 650.. I found the 750 very juddery low down.. it's not for me..
Getting ready to take my bike test here. Would love to buy a hornet but the lack of weather protection means I will likely go for a Triumph 660 sport instead.
Loved this video. I have a 650 V Strom which I love but the Hornet ticks all the boxes for me, this video has me almost convinced to order one. Just need a test ride but testing any Honda in my part of the world seems to be extremely frowned upon by the dealers in Aberdeen and Dundee (Eccosse Motorcycles) so I feel a nice ride to Glasgow coming up.
it's just stupid that suzuki's 650's are priced so high now vstrom 650xt is more expensive than transalp 750 where I am, and the sv650 will probably be more expensive than the hornet, same with yamaha's mt07. honda will stomp on these bikes.
IDK if Honda needed a 750 parallel twin. 700 like the MT07 woulda been cool. MT anything SUCKS suspension-wise, so, Honda would eat Yamaha's lunch if they put out a proper handling 700cc p. twin.
The cbr 650 to me, is nice looking and build quality is good, but that motor does need the higher revs before the sweet spot. The hornet, all round is clearly the better package and value for money. But! Yeah there is always a but! The hornet styling, as soon as I look away, I have no lasting impression, absolute vanilla, what a shame. Perhaps they will bring out a different different style bike like yamaha did with the mt07 and the xsr 700. So, that leaves the trident! Yeah bought one, hits all the right notes for me. No issue with the throttle. Would agree the rear shock, if I was heavier might be a problem, you can uprate, would cost you £300 odd quid tho'. Anyway! It doesn't bother me I,m chuffed to bits with this bike. 👍
I've ridden the CB650R and didn't like it that much. I remember it had for sure power but late, combined with vibrations. So you could cruise or race, but the transition between both felt a little long, while riding it over 8000 all time just sounds annoying for me. It looks however very nice!
Great video review. You say the stock exhaust is better than the SC Project on the Hornet. Why is this? I was thinking of having the SC instead, now not so sure
In NZ the 650 has forks 108mm travel and shock 128mm. The 750 has 130mm and 150mm travel. So explains the difference. Any chance of a comparison with the Suzuki GSX 8G?
Apart from the Hornet's swing-arm, which is definitely the least exciting looking, I'm not sure where the Hornet is actually "budget" compared to the other two. Twins are cheaper to make that triples or i4's. The CBR 650 is still about £700/800 more than Hornet and they share the same suspension. Triumphs are guaranteed to cost more coz they don't make the same quantity of bikes compared to Honda. Disregarding which dash any one may prefer the look of, the Hornet is the most comprehensive, it certainly looks more premium than the other two. I had the same dash on my 2023 CB500f as the CB650R and it was a bugger to read the chunky sized speedo in even moderate light, as for the rest of the smaller dash info, forget it. It was only visible at night.
Hi sorry it’s my cameras got the frame rate set for what I need but that has an effect with the LED’s. You can see the same effect with the security light on the shops wall.
Trident still is a great bike. It was clearly good enough to worry Honda, hence the release of the Hornet. Just shows that competition definitely benefits the consumers!
If only the hornet looked like the cb650r!
Fully agree. CB650R looks stunning. Hornet sounds like a fun light bike.
I totally understand. Get to keep that inline 4
@@512460 Many don't want the i-4.
if you look at the evolution of the hornet since 1998, 2004 through to 2013 it's exactly what you'd expect it to look like.
@@filoIII fair enough. I guess each to thier own. However personally the I4 is 1 of the main reason i like the hornet However the dash of the 2009 up isnt my cup of tea. And for that reason I'd choose the 650f
(I assume its still I4 i dont know much about the 650f)
I drive the Trident, first Triumph I ever bought, 48 years of only Yamaha 38 of those on 1000 fours. I really like the Trident, nice smooth engine, have no problems with the throttle, suspension a bit hard but also very good roadholding. Comfortly on very long drives + 500km even with luggage. I am 65 years old, 68 kg and 1,67 m. Very bad right knee and shattered left wrist but still driving.
I also owned the Trident for a while and loved it. I had no problem with the throttle either, aside for a second's latency in the acceleration in lower gears.
@@tonydare7614 Never a problem for me, maybe it's my weight, I am only 68kg. With motorbikeclothing 72kg. Could be, the dealer where I go never had any complaints from not one owner. Belgian or European spec different ?
They're all great all round comfortable, practical middle weight bikes. Id be happy with any one of them.
@@garysouthwell5762 totally agree.
I own a cb650r because of a number of factors. First it’s beautiful (the all bike if you discount the plate support). Then it’s a authentic 4 pot mid Honda which will be a rare classic in a couple of years. Is sounds marvelous and for a second bike to go around town or in weekend trips, it’s perfect, it’s nimble and small enough that I can move it around easily (it depends on what your used to, but comparing with my GS1200Adventure, it’s very light). I really dislike the new hornet looks (I know it’s a matter of esthetic likes or dislikes but that headlight and fairing…). It may be a very good bike but you have to “feel” something about our stuff, and the 2 cylinder mid capacity Hondas are not for me. If you talk about the Yamahas mt07, mp2 engine your talking about soul, the 4cyl Hondas 650, 750, Triumph 3cyl etc always had always owned there own charisma and factor of fun that’s characteristic and somewhat authentic. Changing that distinctive factor is a comercial mistake in my opinion. Honda should be smart enough to invest in there own clusters and not go with the general flow. The triumph is also lovely and exudes character. The hornet, in my (debatable) opinion, is bland and with no “taste”.
I have the same thoughts, I am really trying to convince myself to buy the Hornet due to the technology inside and price.
Looks alone trident! And that sound god damn!
I haven’t seen a tft I like yet. I don’t need a monitor on my bike… I can only see a purpose to a tft if it has google maps on it
If you could only see the bike from the riding position I guarantee majority would choose the Hornet. It is that good.
From the very begining you had made up your mind and nothing was going to change it.
Hi Peter. We rode all three bikes stopped for a coffee and chat then I started filming and talking to the camera. I would hope the Hornet is the best as it’s fresh. Trust me if it wasn’t the best one of the others would have one.
Goes to show how we all have different taste. I think the round head-light looks ugly, like theyre stuck in the 80's. There's probably a method to the madness with the shape of the headlight with the Hornet. Over and over again Hornet reviews say that at speed the Hornet (for a naked bike at least) has a smooth airflow round the rider. Perhaps this is why Honda styled it this way.
I had a new 2021 CB650R and swapped it for a Triumph Street Twin 900 after 1 yr. CB is a lovely bike but have to rev too high, bars too low, seat height for me and average handling. Triumph twin torque with 5 speed is amazing, ride position better all round, leans in on corners so easy, exhaust with Vance and Hines cans is something else, looks better than the 3 tested IMO. Nearly bought a Trident, glad I didn’t. Enjoyed the vid 👍
Great vid, appreciate the comparison.
Great review!Thanks for posting!
Mate, your mic is heavily right biased
The CB650R was the only bike I've rode thus far that I was looking for the fastest loop back to the dealership. Just felt too bulky and didn't feel apart of me when I wanted to flick it around.... What I'd love to see is a comparison between the Hornet and two bikes in a different class, the Monster 937 and the Street Triple. Sure, they are more premium, but what percentage of thrills is one getting for the money in comparison?! Can the Hornet punch above it's weight? 🤔
Lool funny explanation. I also agree with the comparison
I've heard the triumph get a lot of praise for handling. However this is only word of mouth and haven't experienced it. Same with the MT line from yamaha word of mouth says suspension and brakes are awful.
@@512460 yes, there's a rhetoric going around about the MT line about awful suspension. From what I can ascertain, that stems back from the MT-O7 several releases ago when it WAS awful and spongy. However, Yamaha have improved it since, albeit it still might not be perfect. It seems the rhetoric still continues from when it was worse though. I can attest that my MT-03 has better suspension than what the 07 had when it was underperforming. The Triumphs are fantastic to ride. As is the Monster 937 which is so easy to ride! My Hornet could arrive next week, so I'll soon get a taste comparatively. It seems to tick all the right boxes for me. Small, agile and fast acceleration. Basically what I wish my MT-03 was, as it only ticks 2 out of 3 of those boxes.
@@mindcave which hornet did you order? The new cb750 ?
@@512460 Hmm, weird, I replied but the comment dissapeared. I got the new one, in white. With some luck it will be here this week.
@@mindcave congratulations hope you enjoy it. And it turns out to be every you expect from it.
Really wish they went neo cafe with the hornet. That front headlight is hideous. Also, wish they stuck a high revving 4 in it like the old Hornets. Like how Kawasaki did with the new ZX4RR!
Could a 6 foot 200 pound man be comfortable on the trident or the cb650r ?
@@williamduckworth305 I think the CB650R would be the most roomy.
@@Geordiebiketester
Thank you, 😊
Strange that so many reviewers have said the Trident throttle is laggy and not direct enough and you call it too sharp.
Yes I noticed that maybe it’s our set up. Will have to go back for another ride. Just chatted about you comment with Rachael and she put it another way as in open it nothing then snatch its off.
OK, I undertand. I have put it against the Trident that so many talk about the throttle being laggy, soft and that you have to twist a lot to get some power. Thanks for answering. @@Geordiebiketester
7:03 the profile view of the Hornet actually looks very nice, dare I say it even better than the other two.
Does the Hornet now goes to the Street Triple 765 level?
Sadly no the Street is much higher spec so would be well a head of the Hornet. The Hornet is the better bike for relaxed ride if you know what I mean.
The Hornet aka the cb500f 2.0... All the hype for those boring aesthetics. The bike is probably very good, but the looks are just plain and nothing interesting about them.
I agree, it looks like a cb500f. But i really, really like the cb500 look especially the mask. So it all comes down to personal tadte i guess.
I owned a new CB500f until a recent chance meeting with a deer with little regard for the highway code. Result CB500f 0 (written off) and deer 0 (dead). Decided to upgrade to the Hornet. I won't get it for a couple more weeks but damn that Hornet is just a single kilogram heavier and almost double the power. I'm gonna miss the staggering fuel economy of the 500 though. 😢
@@marcwelstand6791I just got my Hornet 750 after upgrading from my beloved 500f
I miss
The
Great milage
And the 17.2 L tank 😂
Other then that
It's a perfect bike for me😊
Pillion provision?
I would rather see the Hornet compared to the new Zuzuki 2 cylinder and the Mt07. The hornet seems like a great bike but i dont like how it looks. And to me a motorcycles looks are important. Honda shouldve made it look more like the cb1000. I dont like all of the over angular naked bikes that keep coming out. With there rock hard passenger seats that are a mile high. And the red frame and forks dont do it for me either. And i dont like the tank with whatever you call those wings pointing out the front of it. I dont know who designs these bikes and thinks that looks good. And the headlight shape everyone is doing now sucks. At least the Honda 650 and Trident look nice. I test road the Honda 650 and didnt like its lack of low end power. I prefer the engine on the MT07. Why couldnt the Hornet look like the new red Triump 765 Street Tripple RS. Honda would sell a billion of them.
i keep expecting it to turn into deceptacon. a couple of orange winglets away from being a ktm
Honda are already going to sell a billion as they currently look.
put a Zard race exhaust on the Trident flash the ecu, then drive it like your hair is on fire. Do this and its a proper bad ass
Agree. That Zard sounds so good on the Trident! I have the sound on a drop screen and have to click on it every so often. It always creates a smile. The GPR Power Cone is also awesome, but not as cosmetically pleasing.
I think I’m the only person that likes the look of the Hornet 🐝
Everybody has that proverbial body part! But, in reality, the CB750 TWIN is fugly.
Nope, I'm with you all the way. I get mine later this month
Cb650r the best one
The hornet is the ugliest out of the 3, if you care about looks the CB650R is the best.
CB750 It's so ugly
Let’s go Arsenal.
Oh, wow, motorcycles sound terrible in the UK. I am truly shocked. I imagine there is some law forbidding them from sounding too masculine in order not to trigger the many people with anxiety.
Based solely on the sound on this and other similar videos I'd agree with you. However, you can't really capture the real sound too well with the mic of a go-pro or similar even if you are listening to it on a decent sound system at your end. I asked to listen to a Hornet at my local dealer and believe me the Hornet sounds great in person, it barks like a real beast and is not that quiet. I've got one on order. I noticed a bit of a whine from the triumph reminiscent of a BMW K75 triple I used to own.
Triumph is best looking, but British bikes have always been poor quality, so, no thx.
When did you last ride / own a triumph??!! Quality has been on par with honda/yamaha etc. For years..
You clearly have not been on a Triumph, next.
@@stephmarshall2746 On PAR w/ HONDA?????????????? NAAA!!!!!!! Reliability Data Table:
Number Brand Reliability Rating Likely to Buy Again (%) Average Lasting Mileage (for Touring Motorcycles)
1 Honda 9.2 87.1 100,000+ miles
2 Yamaha 9.0 84.9 80,000+ miles
3 Kawasaki 8.8 82.4 80,000+ miles
4 Suzuki 8.7 81.3 90,000+ miles
5 BMW 8.5 77.2 120,000+ miles
6 Harley-Davidson 8.2 74.9 80,000+ miles
7 Triumph 8.0 72.1 90,000+ miles
8 KTM 7.8 68.7 50,000+ miles
9 Ducati 7.5 65.2 70,000+ miles
10 Indian 7.2 61.9 100,000+ miles
Maybe you should give it a chance. After all, it’s made in Thailand.
@@davidleonard8369 Sub-par quality, and no local support, unlike the jap brands.
what were the designers at Honda thinking??? what a downgrade from the Neo Café line :(
I've ridden all 3 and the CB650R is by far the fastest and smoothest.
The Hornet is the best value for money but ugliest.
The Trident is a great bike and looks great but the reliability and Triumphs customer service in the UK is terrible.
I was thinking probably the same...
CB650R is by far the fastest what? Top end? Who cares? We ain't on a track. i-4 ain't practical on the highways and byways. Low-end torque is where it's at.
@@filoIII on highways I would argue an i4 is better, straight line will give the i4 space to scream. I think you mean back roads where the more torque focused p twin will make a difference
@@sleeper.simulant7327 AGAIN, we ain't on a track when on the highways. You know, the speed limit is only 75. Why do you need a bike that realllly comes into its own at 80???? Naaa. Give me low-end. NOT i-4 high end 13k rpm power.
@@filoIII Inline 4’s are nice for overtaking a line of cars on a straight, as they tend to accelerate better at higher speed. Also the CB650R is pulling good by 7,000 rpm, it’s power band is lower in the rev range compared to a 600 super sport
Give me the CB650R any day, even with its dated dash. I like the four cylinder engines, and they are a dying breed in middleweight motorcycles.
And that's how it should be. A decade ago I already thought that 4 cylinders for 600cc was a lot of cylinders for very little volume.
@@fguimara You obviously don't appreciate four cylinder bikes and sound like an accountant. The reason why two cylinder bikes are popular these days is because they are cheaper to manufacture so get yourself a four cylinder bike now because they will be sought after in years to come as future classes in this sterile electric motorcycle world.
@@Apollo949 Twins have a lot more usable power at real road speeds. Also the 270 degree parallel twins sound damn good, a real throaty roar. Inline fours have a very generic sound.
@@Starstreak170 Really? My CB650 produces 90 bhp and is good for 130mph. The Yamaha MT-07 produces 77 bhp.
@@Apollo949 I owned the cb and I'm now on a much older Er6f. I honestly much prefer the twin.
thanks for posting....great video. i have a 660 currently but will be taking delivery of a cbr650r when i get back to my other home next week. hoping that i won't be disappointed in it but i'm looking forward to a bike with more wind protection and that feels more substantial for highway trips. i have to agree with a lot of people that the hornet is an ''interesting'' looking bike. not to my taste but to each his own. btw, i thoroughly enjoy the 660. it's great to have so many good choices available.
I drove the Cb650R from norway all across europe through croatia albania Montenegro Macedonia over to italy and across the alps back home to norway. 3 weeks trip. drove about 7000km. was awesome, but comfort was abit rough for that kind of trip. but totaly worth it. thing i missed was the Low end power. 2 pass cars etc, u need to have it high revs for it to be quick and fun for my taste. but bike is beautiful. got it as my first bike during covid. drove it 12 000 km first year before i tradet it in.
I love my Hornet and for me personally it handles better and sounds great, I had the Triumph Trident 660 but I never gelled with that bike for some reason, I found it uncomfortable. Whereas the Hornet I’ve ridden all day with very little in the way of numb bum and I love that engine.
How long did you have the trident for? I'm seriously considering buying one to replace my CB after I was blindsided by an idiot on her phone, but the reliability of my Honda is making me second guess anything else. Did you have any issues aside from the comfort?
@@WILLGRAYY I had mine just under two years and the only issue I had was the clutch cable kept sticking, they would sort it then after a few months it would do it again. Other people I have spoken haven’t had the same problem, so maybe I was unlucky. Like you I love Honda’s for their reliability, I’ve never had any problems with any of my Honda’s over the years. What ever you decide on enjoy 🏍👍
Now I would like to see a comparison between the Hornet and the MT07
The Hornet has roughly 30 more horses, I hope Yamaha comes up with a faster MT07 to compete with the current market because their engine sounds so good.
@@tubejorrit 18+
This guy did a great comparison video if you haven't seen it already th-cam.com/video/DHYPu8E7GSo/w-d-xo.html
I felt like I was listening to Mrs. Doubtfire, and I was perfectly OK with that.
Just give us a Hornet w/ a plain, non-techy screen, and only ABS, and you'll win.
Just google and look at the Trident's dyno chart. Thing's got ridiculous bottom-end torque.
Mt 07 is more a fair comparison,the Hornet 750 is alot more powerful with 90hp & 100cc displacement more.
Trident 🔱 it s better than the CBR & should of been second.No doubt the Hornet one as it's in the next class up being a 750 & 90hp a MT 07 is in the same class as CBR 650 & Trident & would of been a better choice.If Hornet didn't win there be something seriously wrong with it being in the next class.Also Kawasaki 650 would be another one in the CBR, Trident,MT07.
@@ruahinesrider Totally agree with you
true but all those reviews/comparisons have been done by other youtube channels haha@@ruahinesrider
@@paradiddlesixix7530 Hornet has the Suzuki 800 now too in the same class & the entry level Triumph 765
Trident 🔱 is a 660 in the 650 class with Z650rs,CBR 650,XSR 700,MTO7
It's like putting the Suzuki 800 in MT09-XSR900,Z900 class😁😆🤣.
CB650R all day everyday
I did my mod 1 on the 750 and mod 2 on the 650.. I found low speeds stuff was so much smoother on the 650.. I found the 750 very juddery low down.. it's not for me..
I owned the cb. The midrange is annoyingly weak. I got tired of needing 8000rpm going into a corner just to get decent pull on the exit.
Getting ready to take my bike test here. Would love to buy a hornet but the lack of weather protection means I will likely go for a Triumph 660 sport instead.
yeah good bike that. if you check out my channel I test it there. love the motor.
Fantastic comparison!
CB 650R 👌🔥
Loved this video. I have a 650 V Strom which I love but the Hornet ticks all the boxes for me, this video has me almost convinced to order one. Just need a test ride but testing any Honda in my part of the world seems to be extremely frowned upon by the dealers in Aberdeen and Dundee (Eccosse Motorcycles) so I feel a nice ride to Glasgow coming up.
I bought one blind and so far do not regret it.
it's just stupid that suzuki's 650's are priced so high now vstrom 650xt is more expensive than transalp 750 where I am, and the sv650 will probably be more expensive than the hornet, same with yamaha's mt07. honda will stomp on these bikes.
IDK if Honda needed a 750 parallel twin. 700 like the MT07 woulda been cool. MT anything SUCKS suspension-wise, so, Honda would eat Yamaha's lunch if they put out a proper handling 700cc p. twin.
The cbr 650 to me, is nice looking and build quality is good, but that motor does need the higher revs before the sweet spot. The hornet, all round is clearly the better package and value for money. But! Yeah there is always a but! The hornet styling, as soon as I look away, I have no lasting impression, absolute vanilla, what a shame. Perhaps they will bring out a different different style bike like yamaha did with the mt07 and the xsr 700. So, that leaves the trident! Yeah bought one, hits all the right notes for me. No issue with the throttle. Would agree the rear shock, if I was heavier might be a problem, you can uprate, would cost you £300 odd quid tho'. Anyway! It doesn't bother me I,m chuffed to bits with this bike. 👍
Also I completely disagree with the outdated and bulky CB beating out the Trident espescially considering price.
2 cylinders are fun but the vibration, noise and engine braking combined are unbearable
Perhaps they’ll bring out a less angular round headlight styled bike like the CB650R but with the hornet engine?..call it the CD750!!👌
I've ridden the CB650R and didn't like it that much. I remember it had for sure power but late, combined with vibrations. So you could cruise or race, but the transition between both felt a little long, while riding it over 8000 all time just sounds annoying for me. It looks however very nice!
I want to see the road and speedometer now your face coz we can't see you talk
If Honda would throw the Hornet engine into the CB that would be perfect.
They did …CB650F
Great video review. You say the stock exhaust is better than the SC Project on the Hornet. Why is this? I was thinking of having the SC instead, now not so sure
The standard is louder but the SC project helps it breath and looks better.
Yer I hate the throttle on my trident.
Cool r3view. I found tne CB650R suspension a bit. Underdamped and felt cheap. Is the hornet better? Si ilar spec but longer travel.
Hi Paul. The latest CB650R has the same as the Hornet. Weird the Hornet felt a touch better.
In NZ the 650 has forks 108mm travel and shock 128mm. The 750 has 130mm and 150mm travel. So explains the difference. Any chance of a comparison with the Suzuki GSX 8G?
The hornet is clearly the most budget built of the 3
Apart from the Hornet's swing-arm, which is definitely the least exciting looking, I'm not sure where the Hornet is actually "budget" compared to the other two. Twins are cheaper to make that triples or i4's. The CBR 650 is still about £700/800 more than Hornet and they share the same suspension. Triumphs are guaranteed to cost more coz they don't make the same quantity of bikes compared to Honda. Disregarding which dash any one may prefer the look of, the Hornet is the most comprehensive, it certainly looks more premium than the other two. I had the same dash on my 2023 CB500f as the CB650R and it was a bugger to read the chunky sized speedo in even moderate light, as for the rest of the smaller dash info, forget it. It was only visible at night.
Why are hornet blinkers blinking all the time? is it camera or just a feature of the bike?
Hi sorry it’s my cameras got the frame rate set for what I need but that has an effect with the LED’s. You can see the same effect with the security light on the shops wall.
@@Geordiebiketester it's all right, i was just wondering :) nice comparison between great value nakeds
its a digital camera issue, not a bike issue.
I never understood people complaining about dash displays. I almost never even look at mine. Could care less if it even had one.
It seems like the Trident hype has died down, I always thought that its kind of boring compared to other bikes on this category.
Trident still is a great bike. It was clearly good enough to worry Honda, hence the release of the Hornet. Just shows that competition definitely benefits the consumers!
@@PhilWare1 True enough.
You don't stink too much with these exhausts? My last bike made me smell like a cold engine