@@craigmoran893 people often try new things or have other likings. is like eddie van halen with his frankie: the most iconic guitar of his but not the only one
John Entwistle of The Who played Thunderbirds at one point, but he didn't like them, so he had a custom built bass that had a Thunderbird body with Fender P-Bass neck. I think he had a couple of Fenderbirds before switching to Alembic basses. Pearl Jam's Jeff Ament has also played with Fenderbirds.
I know a friend that fixed neck dive and balanced his Thunderbirds . It involves a steel rod coming forward from the top cutaway aproximatley 7-8 inches and attaching the strap at the end . This re distributes the balance point . No dive at all .
Excuse me? You think all of his followers are men? I'm a straight chick who's been a bass player for a few decades. I personally thought the pic of the sl*t on her guitar was pretty sad. You must really hate yourself to post yourself up online like that. BUT how I feel about that pic is irrelevant because I understand that most of the people who follow here are guys so I just scroll on by not offended but understanding the majority here are going to like the pic. I only commented because you appear to think that it's all guys here and it's not. 😊 👍
I have owned a charvel star for years, it has crazy neck dive. To remedy it, I took a karabiner clip and used it to hook the strap to my belt loop on my jeans. Worked like a charm, just remember to unclip it before putting the guitar down or you’ll be singing soprano for the next few days. Make sure you the strap doesn’t fail on the other end either, or you’ll flash the crowd…
A little off topic but I position the bottom end of the strap across the bottom of the bass. That along with repositioning the strap button relieves about 80% of neck dive. Love the sound of these basses.
I was playing a gig recently with the wonderful Goth band Kælan Mikla. Their bassist Margrét Rósa plays an Epiphone Thunderbird. It was the first time I ever saw a TB up close and bloody hell, that headstock is huge! It's almost the size of the body. Explains the neck dive.
I got an Epiphone Embassy for this exact reason: same pickups and pickup setup, but in a more traditional looking body that plays a lot nicer and doesn't neck dive. Of course, if you want to look of a thunderbird this is not it, but I love the way the Embassy looks as well and most importantly it sounds just as good and unique as a thunderbird.
The best T-Birds are the neck through models, they have a massive laminated resonance block which slightly tapers out towards the tail, and that more or less solves the neck dive issue. The only real issue is that they typically only have active electronics ( which I can’t stand tbh ) The bolt on neck t-birds are just atrocious in their balance.
On my guitars that have a slight neck dive,I add a 1/2inch spacer under the upper horn strap button.Possible to add more of needed.Just have to use a much longer screw.
My Epi T'bird's previous owner stuck the strap buttons in different places. The neck button is through the rear plate(where the body/neck are bolted) & the bridge button is high up on the corner. Actually means fitting a fairly long leather strap makes it hang around your nads like Joey Ramone, which suits my long orangutan arms & stance. Absolute steal at £140!!
I built my own bass starting with a thunderbird body. I cut the body shape a little different and it was perfect except the neck dive. It’s all about where you put the strap lugs.
It's just a matter of balance. Any behs that neck dives isn't worth owning. Hand fatigue & carpal tunnel are just two issues... A large 6 inch lag bolt to extend the behs body for the strap to hold the behs in the proper position would also work.
My favorite Thunderbird player is John Entwistle. He played a Fenderbird (Thunderbird with Fender neck). Shame on you 🫵 Danny for not including him in your clip!!!
I'm thinking of getting back into bass. My 1st and only bass was a thunderbird.i loved it, but it was the most awkward bass to try and learn on. What would you guys recommend as a solid beginners bass?
I put my strap(also thick) through the top Snap Straps on top the shoulders of my leather and it works great never had an issue with neck dive.ive always called it enecktile disfunction 😂
OK, fair enough. I've heard Nikki Six get mentioned before but just for comic relief. You gotta admit it's funny when Chris hits himself in the face with his guitar and Kurt kicks him in the ass. Talk about adding insult insult to injury.
@@tracygalvin6742 LOL OMG I hope Danny sees this comment it is perfect fehs yes dude!! *Ironically Krist did not get hit in the fehs by his Thunderbird :( *sadface*
Well, ask Rob from Brooks basses how to fix it. He just made a double neck thunderbird bass. With a 4 and a 12 string. It doesnt have a neckdive. Its all about lightweight tuners.
thanks for using rickkk mayall as nikki sixx. my thunderbird used to do that too. i used to call it "tomahawk chop". violin basses, rickenbackers, and bassoons will do that as well
I play SG guitars and bass and while people complain about it, I’ve honestly never had a problem, even though the bass body is the SAME SIZE as the guitar version, so the dive is much worse. By the way, what exactly did you type into Bing? Just so I don’t make the same mistake, you understand.
I never had neckdive problems, always thought it was cuz i just kept getting lucky with the guitars I own, even my SG, but having heard long ago that thicker straps made of a grippier material was a solution, I already put 3" straps on everything almost since i started, I've just been dodging the neckdive bullet unknowingly the whole time :P I do now have a neckdive issue because I had a custom Rickenbacker style bass made from one of those Chinese companies, and I asked them to add 24 frets on it, well, it jutted the neck out the body more, and it's actually a great bass, especially for $380 shipped, but she's basically a sit-down-only instrument :/ I got it for recording anyway, I don't play live, so it's actually not the biggest deal.
i got one of those. yeah not a bad rickenbacker deal for under $400. once i switched the pickups and strap buttons, it was much better. it was so close to a genuine one, but i sold it and bought a new rick eventually.
@bite-marx the Ric is my absolute favorite body and headstock shape for bass, but I play death metal tuned down to drop Bb, so my Ric is very not traditional. I had them make me a 5 string neck-thru Ric, and because I need to be able to palm mute, I requested no pickup cover plate, and instead, I went with Music Man style pickups and bridge, it actually came out great looking (and sounding), I've had it for like 12yrs now, and have come to prefer the look of mine over authentic ones surprisingly. It's a blue burst flame top with matching headstock, the back is flat black, but the 7- piece maple/(idk what second wood is) neck is natural finish all the way down to the end of the thru body, rosewood board with traditional Ric triangle pearl inlays, the whole thing is satin, cream binding on the body and neck, black pickguard, black hardware, the guy asked if i wanted the logo etched on the truss rod cover, I said no, it was pretty fun specing it out with the guy and finally getting it and playing it!!
I have the epiphone version and the E string is significantly quiter than the rest.. tried different amps but still the same.. any ideas? Maybe an issue with the pickups?
I love my thunderbird (greco copy). Sounds huge and plays like a dream. But the neck dive does get a wee bit tiresome. Thanks Danny for showing how a simple wardrobe adjustment can fix the issue. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off out to buy some short shorts.
Wide strap + leather jacket to fix neck dive just ends up as neck dive + front of jacket dive. Maybe that just me. Just move the bridge end strap button. It’s not that hard. If you’re a collector and worried about effecting resale value then you’re not worried about it being a valid instrument and you should stop buying basses and making the prices go up for musicians.
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Saw the thumbnail and knew immediately it was You
Funny enough, I was literally thinking this same exact thing lol
I didn't.😅
Ditto! Great (and small) minds think alike.
I guess we all had the same thoughts
You said what I wanted to say!
*save to thumbnail folder* dude whatever mic you use for your vocals is clear as fuck that was hilariously clear
I wouldn't be surprised if he went through the effort to dub himself over with how clear it was
Could be the phone mic. Phone mics are surprisingly clean these days when not making calls. At least iPhones sound great when recording audio.
Are you really that stupid
Gotta love how the bass line never stops when Nikki falls and isn't touching it
jedi master. trained in the slimiest swamps of dagobah
Just like when Justin Beiber puked on stage but never stopped singing. Amazing talent!
Not Nikki Sixx.....
It's Colin Grigson :-)
..Bad News!🤘
Rex Brown? That rhythm section ruled
He wasn't playing a Thunderbird when i saw him
@@craigmoran893 people often try new things or have other likings. is like eddie van halen with his frankie: the most iconic guitar of his but not the only one
Rex in my mind always played Spectors
@@SiopaoSauc3it sounds nothing like an actual Gibson. His thunderbird is more Spector than Gibson honesty
🤘
This fella is good & funny too . Not to forget a brilliant bass player .❤
John Entwistle of The Who played Thunderbirds at one point, but he didn't like them, so he had a custom built bass that had a Thunderbird body with Fender P-Bass neck. I think he had a couple of Fenderbirds before switching to Alembic basses. Pearl Jam's Jeff Ament has also played with Fenderbirds.
I don't blame Entwistle. Gibson basses have terrible necks. The necks are too chunky even for me. (A positive is that they are neck)
I know a friend that fixed neck dive and balanced his Thunderbirds . It involves a steel rod coming forward from the top cutaway aproximatley 7-8 inches and attaching the strap at the end . This re distributes the balance point . No dive at all .
He sure knows his viewers. Obviously, it is a cultured audience of gentlemen.
Excuse me? You think all of his followers are men? I'm a straight chick who's been a bass player for a few decades. I personally thought the pic of the sl*t on her guitar was pretty sad. You must really hate yourself to post yourself up online like that. BUT how I feel about that pic is irrelevant because I understand that most of the people who follow here are guys so I just scroll on by not offended but understanding the majority here are going to like the pic. I only commented because you appear to think that it's all guys here and it's not. 😊 👍
With a few equally cultured lesbians sprinkled in
Oh that girl playing guitar was amazing! That was just what I needed to brighten up my day
Dude from Skynyrd played a sick one
William Murderface Murderface Murderface also played a thunderbird
With his hog on occasion 😅
that's because when he plays the bass, he often crouches, and lower his bass so i think that's why he does not have neck dives
I know the cure for neck dive, get a different bass….
Love how this guy knows how to select a clickbaity thumbnail without it actually being clickbait.
GENIUS!! Kudos to gut BEHHS!!
Pete Way from UFO and Lemmy (in some rare occasions) also played thunderbird basses.
Yeah, but Pete had 4ft arms, so it didn't bother him😂
Pete was the reason I played one
Ha! Love the Countdown finish.
Although I doubt many of my american compatriots would have gotten that.
was that song at the end?
@@mr.astronuts3825 Darude - Sandstorm
@@zacharybinx5443Happy to be one of em, ngl i much prefer 8/10 cats but both are awesome
@@zacharybinx5443 I'm an american and I was going to comment about the Countdown riff myself =0)
I have owned a charvel star for years, it has crazy neck dive. To remedy it, I took a karabiner clip and used it to hook the strap to my belt loop on my jeans. Worked like a charm, just remember to unclip it before putting the guitar down or you’ll be singing soprano for the next few days. Make sure you the strap doesn’t fail on the other end either, or you’ll flash the crowd…
be strong young men.
day 305 of asking for meshuggah’s bass tone
Chaosphere behs tone would be amazing fr
@ absolutely, my favourite tone from their entire discography
A little off topic but I position the bottom end of the strap across the bottom of the bass. That along with repositioning the strap button relieves about 80% of neck dive. Love the sound of these basses.
I primarily play a Thunderbird and the trick to stopping neck dive is you hold it up with the strength of a real man.
A clip of Rik Mayal from the More Bad News movie! A far funnier movie than This is Spinal Tap! Nice one Danny!😎
Agree 100%
I came for the thumbnail...
I came on the thumbnail! 😂
A rough back leather strap (+ skate tape on inside if ?)
To go hard
A solid heavy guage brass control plate cover on the back
Nikki Six wins, that had me laughing :)
(Mick Mars is one hell of a player though.)
It's Colin, not Nikki.
I was playing a gig recently with the wonderful Goth band Kælan Mikla. Their bassist Margrét Rósa plays an Epiphone Thunderbird. It was the first time I ever saw a TB up close and bloody hell, that headstock is huge! It's almost the size of the body. Explains the neck dive.
Love the countdown clock sound to end the clip
I got an Epiphone Embassy for this exact reason: same pickups and pickup setup, but in a more traditional looking body that plays a lot nicer and doesn't neck dive. Of course, if you want to look of a thunderbird this is not it, but I love the way the Embassy looks as well and most importantly it sounds just as good and unique as a thunderbird.
Countdown ! Brilliant!
This is why bing is my main search engine
The leather on leather technique was used ba the great John Entwhistle. Have you done an Ox tone video?
Dang dude you are funny as heck hello from Albuquerque New Mexico your videos are great cheers
The best T-Birds are the neck through models, they have a massive laminated resonance block which slightly tapers out towards the tail, and that more or less solves the neck dive issue. The only real issue is that they typically only have active electronics ( which I can’t stand tbh )
The bolt on neck t-birds are just atrocious in their balance.
On my guitars that have a slight neck dive,I add a 1/2inch spacer under the upper horn strap button.Possible to add more of needed.Just have to use a much longer screw.
My Epi T'bird's previous owner stuck the strap buttons in different places. The neck button is through the rear plate(where the body/neck are bolted) & the bridge button is high up on the corner.
Actually means fitting a fairly long leather strap makes it hang around your nads like Joey Ramone, which suits my long orangutan arms & stance.
Absolute steal at £140!!
that wasn't no Nikki Sixx, that was the great Colin Grigson from Bad News.....RIP Rik Mayal
Odds on that Colin is a better behs player than Frank.
I’d love to see you on Cats does countdown, maybe next to Susie Dent? They love leather straps and thumbnails 😂
I built my own bass starting with a thunderbird body. I cut the body shape a little different and it was perfect except the neck dive. It’s all about where you put the strap lugs.
Colin Grigson, the man, the LEGEND.
Danny your thumbnails are the reason why I'm attracted to this content dont ask
Awww, you gave a shout out to Overend Watts! You know your rock, lad!!!
Love the clip of Colin from bad news!
It's just a matter of balance.
Any behs that neck dives isn't worth owning.
Hand fatigue & carpal tunnel are just two issues...
A large 6 inch lag bolt to extend the behs body for the strap to hold the behs in the proper position would also work.
You could also use a semi rigid strap, and/or a strap with a weighted tail...
My favorite Thunderbird player is John Entwistle. He played a Fenderbird (Thunderbird with Fender neck). Shame on you 🫵 Danny for not including him in your clip!!!
Love the Count Down “riff”
A weird thing to recognise, but I'm sure the clip of changing the strap button was from Rob Arnold's video!
I put aluminum hipshot tuners and a hipshot high mass bridge on mine. helped alot.
I'm thinking of getting back into bass. My 1st and only bass was a thunderbird.i loved it, but it was the most awkward bass to try and learn on. What would you guys recommend as a solid beginners bass?
I just had an orange base that did the same thing the Glen Hughes base but it was awesome. But thank you for that Danny I love you, bud. 🇨🇦
Krist Novoselic famous Thunderbird bass player! I think he's so bloody tall that it counters the neck dive tho!!!
I put my strap(also thick) through the top
Snap Straps on top the shoulders of my leather and it works great never had an issue with neck dive.ive always called it enecktile disfunction 😂
Thanks to you I am now a happier Behsist.
You could put a hook or something on the strap that latches onto your belt around your back
I bought a slightly used one and the seller had already moved the strap button and it’s worked for me.
Talking about the Thunderbird bass but not mentioning Krist Novoselic :(((
That's because he played the behs with his fehs.
@tracygalvin6742 well Nikki Sixx plays the bass with the "play" button and he was still mentioned
OK, fair enough. I've heard Nikki Six get mentioned before but just for comic relief. You gotta admit it's funny when Chris hits himself in the face with his guitar and Kurt kicks him in the ass. Talk about adding insult insult to injury.
@@tracygalvin6742 LOL OMG I hope Danny sees this comment it is perfect fehs yes dude!! *Ironically Krist did not get hit in the fehs by his Thunderbird :( *sadface*
The last Behs ist is a different "type" of dive !🎶🍻
Oh my days! Colin Grigson the greatest bassist ever!
Bad News!!!!! 🤩🤩🤩
Bro. You’re the absolute best not just for BEHS content but all around music content! Love it! Keep it up!
I've been playing Thunderbirds since '76, neck dive never bothered me in he least. 😁😎
Leather straps pretty much eliminate neck dive as they typically have more friction than other fabric straps
I moved the bottom strap pin further up onto the wing, like on a Spector. I also bought a leather strap with a thick shoulder pad.
Well, ask Rob from Brooks basses how to fix it. He just made a double neck thunderbird bass. With a 4 and a 12 string. It doesnt have a neckdive. Its all about lightweight tuners.
Hahaha Nickolas falling on stage like a little kid being bullied is so funny
That dude that's not Nicky Sixx took neck dive to the next level!!!
The leather strap was my solution for my thunderbird too. Made things a whole lot easier
Sweet new tat danny ! 🤘
I played one back in the 90s. I also had an EBO and its neck dive was MUCH worse.
Simple solution is to put the guitar belt through one belt loop of your pants. I have a vox constellation that is neck heavy and this works best
BAD NEWS..?? 😂🤣 haven’t seen that for years. Gotta watch that now… 😂😂
I have mave made desktop wallpaper from your last neckdive picture :)
thanks for using rickkk mayall as nikki sixx. my thunderbird used to do that too. i used to call it "tomahawk chop". violin basses, rickenbackers, and bassoons will do that as well
That's not RiK Mayall, it's Colin Gregson
@@iaincowell9747 .... or is it TREVOR, his brother?
Clicked for the thumbnail 😊
I play SG guitars and bass and while people complain about it, I’ve honestly never had a problem, even though the bass body is the SAME SIZE as the guitar version, so the dive is much worse. By the way, what exactly did you type into Bing? Just so I don’t make the same mistake, you understand.
Pete Way... The best on a thunderbird..
And S.O.A.D's bassist Shavo.
I had a stratacoustic and had to use a buckskin style strap with a rough underside to keep it from diving
Great to see behs legend Colin Grigson live on stage...
Genius.
He was just Bad News
Funny..hysterical stuff going on here. You are one funny Behs player .
HE'S TURNIN' INTO A FREEHK!!!!!!
Or you could do a John Entwistle and stick a proper neck on it, off of a Jazz Bass!
Day 213 of asking for Mikey Way’s behs tone. That is the single most terrifying thumbnail I’ve ever seen
I never had neckdive problems, always thought it was cuz i just kept getting lucky with the guitars I own, even my SG, but having heard long ago that thicker straps made of a grippier material was a solution, I already put 3" straps on everything almost since i started, I've just been dodging the neckdive bullet unknowingly the whole time :P I do now have a neckdive issue because I had a custom Rickenbacker style bass made from one of those Chinese companies, and I asked them to add 24 frets on it, well, it jutted the neck out the body more, and it's actually a great bass, especially for $380 shipped, but she's basically a sit-down-only instrument :/ I got it for recording anyway, I don't play live, so it's actually not the biggest deal.
i got one of those. yeah not a bad rickenbacker deal for under $400. once i switched the pickups and strap buttons, it was much better. it was so close to a genuine one, but i sold it and bought a new rick eventually.
@bite-marx the Ric is my absolute favorite body and headstock shape for bass, but I play death metal tuned down to drop Bb, so my Ric is very not traditional. I had them make me a 5 string neck-thru Ric, and because I need to be able to palm mute, I requested no pickup cover plate, and instead, I went with Music Man style pickups and bridge, it actually came out great looking (and sounding), I've had it for like 12yrs now, and have come to prefer the look of mine over authentic ones surprisingly. It's a blue burst flame top with matching headstock, the back is flat black, but the 7- piece maple/(idk what second wood is) neck is natural finish all the way down to the end of the thru body, rosewood board with traditional Ric triangle pearl inlays, the whole thing is satin, cream binding on the body and neck, black pickguard, black hardware, the guy asked if i wanted the logo etched on the truss rod cover, I said no, it was pretty fun specing it out with the guy and finally getting it and playing it!!
I have the epiphone version and the E string is significantly quiter than the rest.. tried different amps but still the same.. any ideas? Maybe an issue with the pickups?
Same for my Warwick Thumb bass, needed a thick suede strap
I love my thunderbird (greco copy). Sounds huge and plays like a dream. But the neck dive does get a wee bit tiresome.
Thanks Danny for showing how a simple wardrobe adjustment can fix the issue. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off out to buy some short shorts.
Jared followill rocked the Thunderbird for ages
Wide strap + leather jacket to fix neck dive just ends up as neck dive + front of jacket dive. Maybe that just me.
Just move the bridge end strap button. It’s not that hard. If you’re a collector and worried about effecting resale value then you’re not worried about it being a valid instrument and you should stop buying basses and making the prices go up for musicians.
The new tattoo looks good!
I came what I got for, cool thumbnail!
Never underestimate the power of a Bing search.
Put a shoelace around the headstock under the strings, and tie it to a wide strap.
You know what else we could fix Danny? The lack of a Burke Shelley video!
Please show us how to get Spiritbox's bass tone?
Roll Away the Stone, nice 😁
Who was the 2nd bassist mentioned, and what tune was that?
I play a thunderbird. Like the style and tone I get. But fuck me it’s a heavy bastard. Bringing it on tour in South America was a nightmare.
Nikki Sixx is the gift that keeps giving.
Rick Danko behs tone day 67 (The Last Waltz 48th Anniversary today)
justin current 3 doors down bassist used one and i really would love a nice thunderbird i love the sound and am looking for one as my next bass
So what does it smell like after you fixed it
Fran Blanche also invented some kind of anti neck dive straplock, also I've seen some crafty guys tie the strap into a belt buckle
Day *226* of asking for Aston Barret’s *BEHS* tone (Bob Marley and The Wailers)