HS2 was never anything but a Tory money laundering scheme. That is laundering taxpayer funds into the hands of Tory friends and family who have the contracts for the work. It's exactly the same as the military budget problem in the US - only even they aren't so bald faced as to grease their known friends palms with that money. The Tories are truly utterly shameless leaches.
If the Tories were serious about the north of England they would have started the work there and moved south. They would always have found the funding in that case.
It’s what they do in other countries to stop politicians from changing their minds. Start from the outside build to the centre to ensure the benefits are only accrued at the end.
So, having filled our heads with stratospheric promises, and the landscape with thousands of tons of concrete, the magic link between the armpit of London with northern lands is proving too difficult and expensive. Who would have thought?
Hs2 would have been a good thing the problem is when building they wanted to please the climate change activists like they dint do that when the were building the motorways they just built them but when they want to build a railway that will use electricity they have to tunnel under some random forest that no one cares about. They would have saved so much money if they just destroyed they forests and also the amount of people who would have used hs2 instead of cars would have offset how much trees were destroyed.
France, Spain, Italy, Germany, even Turkey. Even Morocco has a proper TGV. Never mind Japan where it all started. Or China. Meanwhile Britain and California have two dysfunctional projects at over 100 billion each, both seeming to compete for the title of most mind bogglingly stupid.
The project is the biggest farce of this century. They have utterly destroyed swathes of countryside and it is billions over budget. Utterly disgraceful. The government is a shower of incompetent buffoons they should all be sacked immediately.
@Paul, HS2 should have been strangled at birth and some of the money spent on improving existing lines, likey commuter lines into places like Manchester. There never was an honest business case for building HS2 even before the costs escalated and the whole project should have been cancelled long before now as costs rose.
The money has largely already been spent. To stop at Birmingham and leave out the part which has the greatest value and the lowest per KM cost (Birmingham to Manchester) is insane. However running a country with zero economic growth in 15 years and record uncontrolled and unscreened illegal migration across southern border, whilst having the highest taxes in 80 years is an horrific record of Governance that even Tories struggle to see any merit to.@@hughjohns9110
@@dacorum8053 yes there was, it was designed to rid the WCML of congestion especially around Birmingham New Street and why should the money be spent on Manchester when there are many Railways in Birmingham and the West Midlands require upgrading.
Worth remembering that the Shinkansen/Bullet train in Japan had a lot of opposition when it was proposed and built. Since they have kept developing it and it has transformed the country. I wish we could complete a long-term project properly...
As long as the worthless Tories are "in charge" nothing will get done. The only thing they are interested in is funnelling tens of millions of pounds of public money into the pockets of their donors.
I posted this many months ago: HS2 super-fast rail system linking London with Manchester and Leeds. A 200 mile journey. HS2 will take 20 minutes off the travel time. Wow. Originally budgeted at £20 Billion in 2010, the final cost could be well in excess of £100 Billion, possibly reaching £150 Billion, and it won't be finished until 2040. A useless vanity project that has resisted all attempts to have it cancelled.
It' would have been good but the problem is overprotection they said it was gonna be 50 billion overall this is the problem with positions and engineers the politicians will hear its possible then will run with that and tell everyone how they're gonna build this great thing that's gonna save everyone. Hs2 would have been great but simply put we should have got advice from Japan on how to build it cause they have years of experience
It has been 13years of Conservative Government that have lied,been incompetent and corrupt……voted for by the dumb British public ! They gave them the power.
Biggest White Elephant in history,build more freight lines and get traffic of our motorways astronomical cost for a journey that's 20minutes quicker FFS
HS2 was always a totally ridiculous splurge of money. Insane project offering little benefit to the country. George Osbourne vanity project designed by management consultants.
HS2 should have been strangled at birth because there was never an honest business case for it. The business case was based on dishonest assumptions about the costs as we all can see. The benefits were based on unrealistic passenger numbers and falsehoods concerning the fares that would be charged that stated that once built, the fares would no more expensive than using slower rail lines in direct contradiction to the experience of HS1 where higher fares are charged. It is not to late to cancel the whole project now and to cut our losses because, what we are likely to get if this farce is allowed to continue, is a line from a common in Acton in west London, which is unconnected to the existing rail network to a station in Birmingham unconnected with the rest of the rail network. In other words, it will go from nowhere to nowhere and nobody will use it! It will also be years late. Just cancel it and use the money saved to upgrade existing lines and capacity on crowded commuter lines into cities like Manchester
It literally is too late to cancel, they have already got huge building sites in Birmingham and OOC, the route is being dug out, and bridges are already assembled. This was and remains the only game in town, it was this or nothing. Also the WCML, MML, and Cross Country route are all getting too busy. We need a new rail line connecting Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, and London.
Exactly right. The funding should have gone to the local lines & infrastructure & fixing the potholes in the roads. We could even re-deploy some of the construction workers to fix the concrete problem in the schools and other public buildings.
@@matty_mcmattface Exactly right! And also use some of the money saved to fix the cladding problem on our flats as there should have been regulations to prevent inflammable cladding being put on our buildings.
@@petercharles8799 It is never too late to cancel an unfinished project which is over budget and a total waste of money that we cannot afford. The world is dotted with unfinished engineering projects. It is a total fallacy to say that HS2 would relieve pressure on other lines when it doesn't even join up with the rail network in Birmingham and Acton! HS2 if ever completed would by definition mean worse intercity connections for places like Watford , Milton Keynes and Coventry as they are not on the HS2 route. They won't have the same connections or the journey times and if other stages are built, they will have to change trains to complete journeys to Manchester, so just HOW is HS2 a benefit to people living in towns and cities not on HS2 when it is clear it would result in a worse service for them? After all the only way HS2 can improve capacity on the the existing Euston Birmingham line is by taking off the intercity services serving the towns on the route. That would be the case, wouldn't it? I'm right, aren't I?
Damm it, we need HS2. Build it. It will be expensive, but the major city's need better rail connections. Its this, or planes and cars. None of them are very good for the environment.
And this is a surprise because…? The country is clearly broke and has been for years living on credit and losing it’s ability to repay. I hear sometimes arguments that investment is the way out of economic doldrums. Hs2 was only going to line pockets of shareholders and those that built it. After that it would be at best small change and beer money for local businesses and damn prohibitively expensive for travel on for ordinary folk much as the rest of the rail network is.
Betrayal,it is and was a nonsense from the start. Over one hundred billion pounds plus, so some people can save twenty minutes on travel time that it a nonsense. The people that dreamt this s.. up should be locked up for the country safety. 🇬🇧🏴
Well well! Sorry Crewe, the money was given to the Ukrainians! And i am on record from day 1 of the SMO, that sooner or later the British people would pay the price! And of course Sky will not make that connection!
HS2 should never have been started with the London end. London is what the tories are interested in; they're just so London-centric! The northern cities should have been connected first before extending south later. Tories cannot project-manage!
It's rather sad and pathetic how an initial cost is allowed to spiral out of control with no consequences for the original estimate. This country is run by con artists.
Anything really stunning, and far-sighted is destroyed by government. At 75 I can look back on all the wonderful projects that went up to completion and were then scrapped, despite the input of so much talent and so much treasure.
I live in Wakefield West Yorkshire,if they connect hs2 to Manchester I will definitely be moving. If they don't build it it will be a massively let down.
No it will go from the City Center of the UK's second largest City, the City of Birmingham to London Euston in the suburbs of London and may be into Manchester Piccadilly Station
@@random6809The thing is there are so many people opposed to HS2 that if someone said it was terminating in a field in Oxfordshire they would believe it, the fact of the matter is that the tunnels from OOC to Euston are being constructed in readiness and OOC station would not cope with all the trains terminating there with just around 2 through platforms , as the line gets more under way, Euston will start to be built.
So much for levelling up Broken promises after broken promises It's time to for: Devolution for North England Devolution for Birmingham Devolution for Scotland Devolution for Northern Ireland and lastly Devolution for Wales
Glad Johnsons bridge to Ireland was tossed aside,,but still folk made good money out of playing along with the idea,,maybe one day but not now,,Shishi Sunak wants his elevators to the moon first 😂,dont worry It'll only take 10yrs and cost a few million,,,,,,,now where do find stocks and shares in the yatch building market😊
This railway should have been clocked, on time and budget for a country like Britain the way we strutt our stuff. Perhaps we need to rethink who we really are. Absolutely humbling. The ruins of an Empire crumbling. Milled between Left and Right into dust, blowing away into the winds of time. Sad.
I hope the whole thing gets binned. We don't need it. People don't travel as much by train anymore. It's unreliable due to militant strikes and the fares are ridiculous. Why do we need another line to Birmingham? There's already two, the chiltern route and the exorbitant west coast mainline route. We need the money it's costing to pay all the hotel bills for illegal migrants.
Just another party of clowns and crooks promising a lot; easy to do when they’re far from being in charge. And even if they do get in charge, on a closer look one realises they don’t seem to have much competency or much vision. Yet they are still very appealing to people who are most susceptible to buzzwords and identity politics.
if it does not reach Manchester then it is just a toy... - not useful to rich or poor... - maybe a little bit of fun, - nothing more... I prefer the Sunday 'express' to London anyway (takes just under six hours, - nice in a buffet car with a French Sunday Luncheon....
I was in Warwickshire last week, and the state sponsored vandalism is heart breaking. A massively over budget white elephant to get a few people to Birmingham half an hour earlier at the cost of pristine ancient woodland. I would bet my house that no Tory MPs estate will be affected by this monstrosity.
Not a few people from Birmingham but any one that travels on the Avanti West Coast trains from Birmingham to London Euston at the moment will when HS2 opens have to travel on the HS2 line, like wise from Manchester.
India would have colonised the moon by the time HS2 reaches Manchester and the Tories would still try and convince us we're a global power.
Probably as this country sends money to India for the Indian space programme
HS2 was never anything but a Tory money laundering scheme.
That is laundering taxpayer funds into the hands of Tory friends and family who have the contracts for the work.
It's exactly the same as the military budget problem in the US - only even they aren't so bald faced as to grease their known friends palms with that money.
The Tories are truly utterly shameless leaches.
HS2 makes us a global power? Seriously?
I don't believe they have been there yet
If the Tories were serious about the north of England they would have started the work there and moved south. They would always have found the funding in that case.
Keyboard warrior tutu
100%
They are building from the North to the South, to a Londoner Birmingham is up North so yes starting in Birmingham they are starting in the North
Bang on! It’s been a con since the start
It’s what they do in other countries to stop politicians from changing their minds. Start from the outside build to the centre to ensure the benefits are only accrued at the end.
So, having filled our heads with stratospheric promises, and the landscape with thousands of tons of concrete, the magic link between the armpit of London with northern lands is proving too difficult and expensive. Who would have thought?
Hs2 would have been a good thing the problem is when building they wanted to please the climate change activists like they dint do that when the were building the motorways they just built them but when they want to build a railway that will use electricity they have to tunnel under some random forest that no one cares about. They would have saved so much money if they just destroyed they forests and also the amount of people who would have used hs2 instead of cars would have offset how much trees were destroyed.
Apparently it has cost so far 50 billion pounds.
It’s almost like they want to be voted out forever
France, Spain, Italy, Germany, even Turkey. Even Morocco has a proper TGV. Never mind Japan where it all started. Or China.
Meanwhile Britain and California have two dysfunctional projects at over 100 billion each, both seeming to compete for the title of most mind bogglingly stupid.
The Tories are a disgrace. To not build HS2 to Manchester, given all that has been done, is unforgivable.
The project is the biggest farce of this century. They have utterly destroyed swathes of countryside and it is billions over budget. Utterly disgraceful. The government is a shower of incompetent buffoons they should all be sacked immediately.
@Paul, HS2 should have been strangled at birth and some of the money spent on improving existing lines, likey commuter lines into places like Manchester. There never was an honest business case for building HS2 even before the costs escalated and the whole project should have been cancelled long before now as costs rose.
To build any of it at all was unforgivable. Just think how much that money could have usefully done for the UK.
The money has largely already been spent. To stop at Birmingham and leave out the part which has the greatest value and the lowest per KM cost (Birmingham to Manchester) is insane. However running a country with zero economic growth in 15 years and record uncontrolled and unscreened illegal migration across southern border, whilst having the highest taxes in 80 years is an horrific record of Governance that even Tories struggle to see any merit to.@@hughjohns9110
@@dacorum8053 yes there was, it was designed to rid the WCML of congestion especially around Birmingham New Street and why should the money be spent on Manchester when there are many Railways in Birmingham and the West Midlands require upgrading.
Worth remembering that the Shinkansen/Bullet train in Japan had a lot of opposition when it was proposed and built. Since they have kept developing it and it has transformed the country. I wish we could complete a long-term project properly...
A faster train by 20 mins isn’t king to lift the uk one bit.
As long as the worthless Tories are "in charge" nothing will get done. The only thing they are interested in is funnelling tens of millions of pounds of public money into the pockets of their donors.
@greenie3419Government funding paid for Shinkansen. JR took over control later.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Comparing Apples and Pears again .
What is the point of railway when the railway workers are constantly on strike ? 🤔
People are surprised the tories told proxies again? Wonder who’s made millions on the back of this scam…
I live in Lyon. The TGV does 320kph up to Paris. (Rhone line) The UK is absolute laughing stock.
France will always be a laughing stock, rolling over and having the Germans rub your belly so easily.
100%
Cheers, sons crying
Thank goodness the UK's rail network is still better than the US.
Do railway workers go on strike like they do in UK ? 🤔
I'm surprised anyone believed it would eventually run to Manchester in the first place.
I posted this many months ago: HS2 super-fast rail system linking London with Manchester and Leeds. A 200 mile journey. HS2 will take 20 minutes off the travel time. Wow. Originally budgeted at £20 Billion in 2010, the final cost could be well in excess of £100 Billion, possibly reaching £150 Billion, and it won't be finished until 2040. A useless vanity project that has resisted all attempts to have it cancelled.
It's not even running to London by the looks of it. £100bn to connect Old Oak Common to Birmingham.
@@staponsa1 It will be running into Euston.
Are people just realising HS2 was just one big Tory "gravy train"?
It' would have been good but the problem is overprotection they said it was gonna be 50 billion overall this is the problem with positions and engineers the politicians will hear its possible then will run with that and tell everyone how they're gonna build this great thing that's gonna save everyone. Hs2 would have been great but simply put we should have got advice from Japan on how to build it cause they have years of experience
HS2 was a waste of money from the start. Should be scrapped in full now.
Oh, what a surprise! What exactly are we being “levelled up” to, the Middle Ages?
Imagine believing the words of ANY Politician?
It has been 13years of Conservative Government that have lied,been incompetent and corrupt……voted for by the dumb British public ! They gave them the power.
HS2 always was a stupid idea. It doesn’t fix any commuter issues.
But it fixes Hi Speed train service issues from Birmingham and the Northwest
Biggest White Elephant in history,build more freight lines and get traffic of our motorways astronomical cost for a journey that's 20minutes quicker FFS
HS2 was always a totally ridiculous splurge of money. Insane project offering little benefit to the country. George Osbourne vanity project designed by management consultants.
Scrap it and make all the tories that had their big houses “ compulsory purchased” for millions pay it all back.
HS2 should have been strangled at birth because there was never an honest business case for it. The business case was based on dishonest assumptions about the costs as we all can see. The benefits were based on unrealistic passenger numbers and falsehoods concerning the fares that would be charged that stated that once built, the fares would no more expensive than using slower rail lines in direct contradiction to the experience of HS1 where higher fares are charged.
It is not to late to cancel the whole project now and to cut our losses because, what we are likely to get if this farce is allowed to continue, is a line from a common in Acton in west London, which is unconnected to the existing rail network to a station in Birmingham unconnected with the rest of the rail network. In other words, it will go from nowhere to nowhere and nobody will use it! It will also be years late.
Just cancel it and use the money saved to upgrade existing lines and capacity on crowded commuter lines into cities like Manchester
It literally is too late to cancel, they have already got huge building sites in Birmingham and OOC, the route is being dug out, and bridges are already assembled. This was and remains the only game in town, it was this or nothing. Also the WCML, MML, and Cross Country route are all getting too busy. We need a new rail line connecting Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, and London.
Exactly right. The funding should have gone to the local lines & infrastructure & fixing the potholes in the roads. We could even re-deploy some of the construction workers to fix the concrete problem in the schools and other public buildings.
@@matty_mcmattface Exactly right! And also use some of the money saved to fix the cladding problem on our flats as there should have been regulations to prevent inflammable cladding being put on our buildings.
@@petercharles8799 It is never too late to cancel an unfinished project which is over budget and a total waste of money that we cannot afford. The world is dotted with unfinished engineering projects.
It is a total fallacy to say that HS2 would relieve pressure on other lines when it doesn't even join up with the rail network in Birmingham and Acton! HS2 if ever completed would by definition mean worse intercity connections for places like Watford , Milton Keynes and Coventry as they are not on the HS2 route. They won't have the same connections or the journey times and if other stages are built, they will have to change trains to complete journeys to Manchester, so just HOW is HS2 a benefit to people living in towns and cities not on HS2 when it is clear it would result in a worse service for them? After all the only way HS2 can improve capacity on the the existing Euston Birmingham line is by taking off the intercity services serving the towns on the route. That would be the case, wouldn't it? I'm right, aren't I?
Because of its huge costs no one will be able to afford to travel on it unless it receives constant subsidies.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 we won't be needing cars/trains/planes, we'll be locked into our own little cubicles & forgotten.
It’ll be a miracle if HS2 reaches Birmingham 😂
Damm it, we need HS2. Build it. It will be expensive, but the major city's need better rail connections. Its this, or planes and cars. None of them are very good for the environment.
And this is a surprise because…? The country is clearly broke and has been for years living on credit and losing it’s ability to repay. I hear sometimes arguments that investment is the way out of economic doldrums. Hs2 was only going to line pockets of shareholders and those that built it. After that it would be at best small change and beer money for local businesses and damn prohibitively expensive for travel on for ordinary folk much as the rest of the rail network is.
I couldn't have put it better myself. Well said.
Just scrap the whole thing already , so much money wasted
We need HS2 everything cannot be in London we need this so we can move out of London
Please stay in London
Love it!@@reggipher
Politicians in London still aren't aware that there's cities outside London
Should have just improved what we already had
Good idea but that doesn’t give them the avenues to filter off millions into their mates back pockets.
Levelling up was always complete nonsense. This proves it, if proof is required.
Betrayal,it is and was a nonsense from the start. Over one hundred billion pounds plus, so some people can save twenty minutes on travel time that it a nonsense. The people that dreamt this s.. up should be locked up for the country safety. 🇬🇧🏴
Whole thing was a stupid idea and not needed at all ,just contracts for the boys
HS2 was carved through 16 ancient woodlands when there was no business case for this exhorbitant expenditure.
Try looking at what the UK's Motorway network has destroyed over the years
Well well! Sorry Crewe, the money was given to the Ukrainians! And i am on record from day 1 of the SMO, that sooner or later the British people would pay the price! And of course Sky will not make that connection!
Id rather they built a wall around London
Oh there was actually a train and a railway? I thought it was just a way for Boris to get public money in the hands of his friends and donors?
HS2 should never have been started with the London end. London is what the tories are interested in; they're just so London-centric!
The northern cities should have been connected first before extending south later. Tories cannot project-manage!
Why, HS2 was not started at the London End it is being constructed over the whole length of the line
Waste of money
Its not betrayal just common sense!
I hope they do splash out and invest in it. Passengers will be able to get to Manchester 5 minutes earlier! 😂😂😂😂
Contrast our rail infrastructure to our peers across Europe and we're a laughing stock. We're entire generations behind the French and Germans.
Tories being Tories. Keeping the investment money in the South which the North have paid for.
13 years. 😂
big surprise, tories lied.
It's rather sad and pathetic how an initial cost is allowed to spiral out of control with no consequences for the original estimate. This country is run by con artists.
This railway could have changed travel in the uk but it’s been miss managed from the start by everyone involved it’s a joke
Anything really stunning, and far-sighted is destroyed by government. At 75 I can look back on all the wonderful projects that went up to completion and were then scrapped, despite the input of so much talent and so much treasure.
They wasted billions by even thinking of it.
How come Manchester is so special ? They cancelled the Eastern leg to Sheffield and Leeds in the blink of an eye and it didn't even make the news .
It did
It did make the news.
County lines..
They will tell us that this will significantly reduce travel time.I do it all the time if don't go somewhere it takes no time at all.
I live in Wakefield West Yorkshire,if they connect hs2 to Manchester I will definitely be moving.
If they don't build it it will be a massively let down.
It should go to every city in gb and NI right up to rural areas
100 billion to Birmingham 15mins faster! Tories putting great into Britain,
Why not 100 billion pound to Birmingham, and it will be 40 mins faster in each direction not 15 mins.
So it will go from somewhere outside london to somewhere outside Manchester.🤣🤣🤣
No it will go from the City Center of the UK's second largest City, the City of Birmingham to London Euston in the suburbs of London and may be into Manchester Piccadilly Station
@@peterwilliamallen1063
Actually it may stop six miles from Euston. That was the point the OP was making.
@@random6809The thing is there are so many people opposed to HS2 that if someone said it was terminating in a field in Oxfordshire they would believe it, the fact of the matter is that the tunnels from OOC to Euston are being constructed in readiness and OOC station would not cope with all the trains terminating there with just around 2 through platforms , as the line gets more under way, Euston will start to be built.
@@peterwilliamallen1063
Perhaps because promises have been made and people lied to.
@@random6809 why.
It's HS3 we northerners want! A band of northern cities compined !
I ask again, any news from Bandera Ukraines failed counteroffensive?
So much for levelling up
Broken promises after broken promises
It's time to for:
Devolution for North England
Devolution for Birmingham
Devolution for Scotland
Devolution for Northern Ireland and lastly
Devolution for Wales
Betrayal is in the very DNA of the tories.
They should have started in the North
Why
@peterwilliamallen1063 Because if they started in the north then they would have had to reach London, instead of cutting it short in the north
Got to pay for the illegal immigrants. Now .
i never wanted it in the first place. Who wants to become a commuter belt to that floating turd on the thames
See any comparison between Kevin Spacey and Russell Brand? Seems he's already been convicted without trial,
It’s the Tory’s ! U really need to ask that question ?!
What happened to the Northern Power house and Leviling up? 😂😂😂
Why not blame China on this issue?
It’s the EUs fault.
Better still, Corbyn.
To save half an hour on train times, what a waste of money. Biggest rip off ever. No one cares about HS2, especially the normal bloke in the streets.
build it now at todays costs or build it years later at 2 or 3 or more times the cost
Glad Johnsons bridge to Ireland was tossed aside,,but still folk made good money out of playing along with the idea,,maybe one day but not now,,Shishi Sunak wants his elevators to the moon first 😂,dont worry It'll only take 10yrs and cost a few million,,,,,,,now where do find stocks and shares in the yatch building market😊
We need futuristic fast trains like japan and China and they can’t even do this
That is what will operate on HS2, and we have these types of trains running on HS1 through the Channel Tunnel
I see Ms Ridge lacks the courage to face any response to her nonsense about Brand then. Weak journalism.
Crewe? Eurgh disgusting
We are a backwards country the dream of the nostalgic 80s and protest about anything new
Nothing to do with the Tories.
This railway should have been clocked, on time and budget for a country like Britain the way we strutt our stuff.
Perhaps we need to rethink who we really are.
Absolutely humbling.
The ruins of an Empire crumbling.
Milled between Left and Right into dust, blowing away into the winds of time.
Sad.
I hope the whole thing gets binned. We don't need it. People don't travel as much by train anymore. It's unreliable due to militant strikes and the fares are ridiculous. Why do we need another line to Birmingham? There's already two, the chiltern route and the exorbitant west coast mainline route. We need the money it's costing to pay all the hotel bills for illegal migrants.
HS2 is replacing trains from Birmingham that run on the WCML
Crewe and March. Armpits of the rail network.
nobody on either side of the political split thinks HS2 is worth it. Why have billions in taxpayers money and 13 years been wasted on this?
Again?
I’ll be voting for Reform UK 🇬🇧
Just another party of clowns and crooks promising a lot; easy to do when they’re far from being in charge. And even if they do get in charge, on a closer look one realises they don’t seem to have much competency or much vision. Yet they are still very appealing to people who are most susceptible to buzzwords and identity politics.
Waste of space that lot. Worse than UKIP crackpots
I would like to see it go all the way up to Edinburgh
Im sure that could be arranged. Although it will cost £1 trillion and stop 10 miles short for no reason at all.
@@staponsa1 seems crazy money and if it's 10 miles short it could be down to Urban architecture
Should be going to Leeds aswell but oh well
Hs2 or Concorde mk 2
Ah yes the moto of britan we got there first and now we are the worst
Anyone who believes a thing the lying tories say, should seek help really, because they have lost touch with reality 🤔
Soo should i start thinking of buying a bike 🤔
3417, jelabi junction.!😅
Build it!
What next, Pakistani Junction?
Its o joke if it doesn’t whole government northern power house 😂
Tories have gone back on a number of promises. HS2 will just be one of a long list of betrayals and failures
This government is repeatedly cutting the hs2 budget so it is doubtful.
Russel brand did nothing wrong
Let's send more money to Ukraine
if it does not reach Manchester then it is just a toy... - not useful to rich or poor... - maybe a little bit of fun, - nothing more... I prefer the Sunday 'express' to London anyway (takes just under six hours, - nice in a buffet car with a French Sunday Luncheon....
Will HS2 get from one end of the platform to the other!? 🤔 🚆 😂 no chance!!!! 🇬🇧 💩
A Cameron Clegg Idea , say no more.
errrr.....F*** tory
I was in Warwickshire last week, and the state sponsored vandalism is heart breaking. A massively over budget white elephant to get a few people to Birmingham half an hour earlier at the cost of pristine ancient woodland. I would bet my house that no Tory MPs estate will be affected by this monstrosity.
Not a few people from Birmingham but any one that travels on the Avanti West Coast trains from Birmingham to London Euston at the moment will when HS2 opens have to travel on the HS2 line, like wise from Manchester.