I love my mini Jack, WBP makes a great AK. I hope they can continue to import more rifles and get the price down. I got my mini Jack for 650 and now they’re about 200 more.
Currently, the WBP Jack 7,62x39 Polymer tactical with picatinny rail on the upper handguard and polymer magazine costs 4000 PLN in Poland, which is around 950 USD. Looking for one to buy.
Notes about my beryl 7.62. 100% bone stock no modifications It's very soft shooting compared to most other stamped 16in guns. The only stamped receiver 16inch gun that shoots softer is my 107fr and that's probably because of the 74 style muzzle brake. The original polish FCG was gritty out of the box but smoothed out very nicely and is now probably one of my favorite AK fire control groups. I'd literally pay money for another one to put into one of my other AKs. The rivets are basically as perfect as AK rivets can get. Even the inside heads of the short trunnion rivets are perfectly formed. The paint finish is pretty poor in my opinion. Right out of the blue bag that they come in, there was moisture pooled up on the receiver and I was able to wipe off two spots of the paint finish leaving a black smudge on my thumb. The finish itself was applied inconsistently and is quite thin in some places. One spot in front of the magwell even has some sort of crud stuck under the finish leaving it feeling gritty to the touch. The laser engraving is shallow and feels cheap compared to proper roll marks. It's a poor finish especially when compared to other painted AKs like my sa-85 or even my saiga and 107fr. I've honestly had a postban maadi with nicer finish. Some general fit and finish issues inside the receiver where the trunnion and rails aren't lined up perfectly leading to some ugly deformation as the parts break themselves in. And there is a small amount of metal deformation inside the bolt lug groove of the carrier where the bolts locking lug seems to be harder then the carrier and causing the carrier to mushroom slightly. None of these issues affect the function or durability of the rifle just some general fit and finish issues I've ran into when inspecting the rifle. All in all it's a well built rifle that's extremely nice to shoot but with a general fit and finish that falls below what I expected for it's price point. I feel that unless you really care about it's low production numbers and it's perceived exclusivity, you're probably better off with one of the WBP guns.
I just wanted to say I really respect your short review here. It is objective, and while you point out some flaws, you seem to accurately judge their importance. Honestly? I'd encourage you to do your own video review.
@@misha5670 I appreciate that, but I already posted something similar to this on the files and was ripped to shreds by fan boys. I was going to just let it go, shoot the rifle and enjoy it. But since you posted your video I thought I'd add my two cents in one last time.
@@josephthomas8318 Don't worry, those fan boys? They just, simply wrong. I love love love the Beryl series but, they aren't perfection. Only the Borg are t hat ;p
Glad I waited on the Fox. The Jack seems like the way to go! Nice videos as always, Misha. Keep up the great work. Always very helpful, informative and enjoyable.
Not sure if it was intentional or not, but the volume difference between your talking portions and the shooting portions is much better now. Older videos basically blow your speakers when going to the range footage. Great video, as always.
Nope, not intentional....either way. When its me doing the videos like with this one, i literally have no way to adjust the volume for anything. So it just kind of is what it is lol.
Glocks are boring to me but I depend on them, if you say the jack is boring then I'm getting one. I prefer certainty over flashy and sometimes I'm happy saying yeah it's just a Glock or a polish AK but it just works 👍 I also own a 15 year old Tacoma, it's slow and it's boring but it works
Hi Misha - Beryl is a nice rifle and has great history serving Polish soldiers in Afghanistan in 2004. Also Beryl rifles are currently serving as one of many weapons deployed by Polish border security on Polish/Ukraine border by (Military and Police). However WBP has seen action and has been in military use in Africa and Asia by local military’s there. Both are phenomenal - I have the lynx and it is my favorite rifle.
i got lucky and have a beryl in 556 and x39. great quality. took alot of time waiting by computer for them to come in. I know arms of America said the last batch was delayed because of fulfilling a military contract but they finally showed up and were gone in 8 min. I was lucky and I believe and maybe Miaha you can elaborate, but with the Russia Ukraine ordeal starting it may be a long while before they come back in stock. With all that's going on I think they will be busy with other issues in that part of the world. Hope ya do a video on the Hellion. I have one on back order to add to the bullpup collection. thanks and great content as always.
The Polish and Ukrainian government both talk a big game, but I think there are reasons as to why the shelling of Donetsk and Lugansk stopped immediately following the arrival of Russian peacekeepers. I don't think it'll be too long before the dust settles (and I'm also of the opinion that the Poles weren't that actually committed anyway). Plus the Ukrainians have their own (somewhat bizarre) arms industry in full swing now, they aren't so much in need of outside help as far as conventional small arms go, to their credit, in just a few years. I wonder how much of the time "delayed due to military contracts" is just these companies sending the message of "this is a side hustle we don't care about that much" or possibly at times delays specifically meant only to increase demand and increase prices.
Cool, thanks for posting that. Coincidentally, I’m picking mine up today!!! 👏🙌 - California, so had to wait 10’days, it’s got a silly fin on the grip, but it will be in my living arms later today.
How is your Gun treating you? I’m trying to get my first ak and was considering this or the berly. The m90 is another choice, but I had seen that it has gas issue.
@@letsgetit90 I’m really liking it. I did a Tac Rifle course with it a couple of weeks ago (all the other students had AR’s) and it did great! I ran it with a Primary Arms 2X prism scope (love the adjustable diopter) and I was getting very nice groups and ringing steel out to 200 yards, no problem. I have a few AK’s & this one is my favorite. Also, due to the stupid Fin we have to run on the grip in CA, it’s really nice having the safety in the right.
@@donaldcox6090 - if you don’t mind me asking, how much did the gun cost you? If the gun get restock on Atlantic Firearms than I’m going to buy it and become in debt 💸 I can’t find the dam gun in California and on the website beside Atlantic
@@letsgetit90 it was $1,299, plus the $49 fin to make it CA legal. The fin is not (IMO) a nice one, and I replaced with a Kydex wrap. I think you’ll like the rifle. My front sight is only slightly canted, the finish is great, all the rivets look solid, the trigger is very nice. At about 500 rounds, I’ve no issues. Accuracy has been just fine. It’s probably the best AKM clone available. By the way, with a good thumb rest, the fin is not really an issue. Safety is on that side, so it’s way better than an AR with a fin.
I sure miss the muzzle brake and bayonet lug on my old sar-1 (99).So I might like to get another one ,even at 67.My whole life has been guns ,since I was old enough to buy them .I love your videos !
Great to see the video. For some reason, probably my age, I also like the more classic akm. Don't misunderstand I want more "modern" fb radom but just can't quite justify the expense right now. That they are relatively unobtainable, and sell out immediately help curb my impulse to go into further debt. I admit I am wanting that flash hider. Are they available somewhere? Thanks again for the video. I also am somewhat suspicious of the ammo as opposed to weapon or magazine. I have both fb radom and wbp magazines and they run zavasta m90 and m85 and fox flawlessly fully loaded. Different calibers but pretty much always running brunaul mil spec. Never had any issues not even a bobble. About a case through each rifle at this point. Just my experience.
I noticed in a recent batch of 122 GR Tulammo, the quality looked a lot more ruff than usual, inconsistency all over the place with rounds from the same 20 count box. Some with cracked casings, inconsistent primer seating, inconsistent thickness of the case mouth, bullet seating depths all over the place, rim thickness and depths different from round to round, head stamps shallow and difficult to read.
I've noticed for years that tula go bang, Bang, bang, *BANG*, bang. Especially noticeable in low light. the variation in flash and report is dramatic. BUT, from what you say, it's gotten worse. It seems when the we announced no new import contracts, they turned up the production rate to 11.
I think they're importing WBP's in large quantities consistently, because their availability has met demand, anyone can just buy one whenever they want. Hopefully FB Radoms Beryls will eventually get to that point.
Cost. Ammo is expensive now. You will see the gun industry start to collapse just cause people can’t afford shit anymore. Food and gas and bills come first
@@calebclark6739 - you seem to forgot how people were dying over toilet papers lol. You would think food and & water would be the top things people would have on their priority list. However, people went nuts over papers
@@misha5670 Seems like once they added a milled receiver, it would run about the same as an Arsenal milled. Do you think they're comparable in quality?
He doesn't seem much interested in the gun community right now. He was getting frustrated last Spring and then he just told me he was out. I was inviting him everytime, but after several 'no's or 'I'll think about it"s I just gave up. His life and his decision. Me? while i might get annoyed sometimes, I just couldn't walk away from something and a group of people that mean so much to me. But that's just me though.
Any AK design can do this when slowly cycling by hand. It should not be happening during firing though. Personally? mine does not do it but that's not to say the next Jack might not hang up a little bit on the hammer. Usually after a couple thousand rounds, things smooth out to the point it is less likely too.
I have been considering the Jack but also the Zastava ZPAP,. I like the bulged trunnion on the ZPAP but don't like the fact that their handguards are an odd size so they are not easy to replace with other after-market options. I have an Arsenal SLR-101s which I love but it is a milled receiver and so have not been able to take advantage of some of the after-market stock options and am afraid I will have the same issues with the ZPAP, but I have heard lots of great things about the ZPAP and supposedly the bulged trunnion will provide for improved longevity. I am curious about what others think about the two different rifles and pros/cons of each?
I'd go with the jack. It''s a high quality AKM with a lot of aftermarket support. However the Zastava rifles also have aftermarket support now just not as much
@@booba8930 - I brought the m90 because I waited two years for the jack and Beryl. Shot it once so far and enjoyed it besides the breaking of the magazines. I live in California so the only magazine that I was able to frf is the WBP. WBP produces FB mags at their factory. The Jack is available right now but I Dont think I want to spend 1600 dollars one a gun that I feel isn't that much better than my heavy 9 pounds m90. The recoil is a solid, and the weight isn't a burden as I had thought. I mean, people have been harping about the WBp chrome barrel. Sure, I feel like the Polish gun industry, especially FB and WBP, produces top-quality guns, but most folks won't probably outshoot their weapons. You are right about the after-market parts with the Jack and AKM.
@@letsgetit90 My Jack cost 1200 and feels good in my hands in my opinion. Although me personality I think I got one of their lower quality guns as the sights are a bit canted which is rare for WBP AFAIK. Still feels well built. Thank you for the effort in your reply though. Glad you enjoy your M90.
@@booba8930 - I had heard almost great stories about the Jack and it's super light . It's funny because one of the common problems that i was afraid about purchasing the m90 was the canted sights lol. If I didn't get the m90, I'd have drop that money in a heartbeat to get the Jack.
I'm intrested in the 5.56 WBP Jack rifle. I'm having problems finding the twist rate on this rifle. Would you know the twist rate on the 5.56 Jack rifle? Thank you
Here soon, we'll publish a review of that one + compare it with something. Probably either the Beryl or Arsenal's SAM5? or maybe Zastava's M90? Wish there was time to shoot all back-to-back but...
WBP in its "5.56 Jack and Mini Jack rifle user manual" says twist rate is 228mm which equals to 9 inch (to be precise: 228/25.4=8.976377952755906 inch)
the malfunction in the beryl really is odd. seems like it would be a mag or ammo problem but with 2 different mags i don't know. did you use the same mags loaded to the same round count and ammo type in the fox?? interesting if others came across that with there rifles. thanks.
@@TedIntessimone the 1mm gap at trunnion and buttstock was spec for laminate wood. Maybe you should contact the Izhevsk Factory in Russia and give them the proper advice on how to build the AKM.
The Jack has it because realistically any AK import to the USA has to have some kind of an optics mount. Its just one of those market demand things. The Beryl lacks it because on the military version there isn't room for it. Where the side rail would go, it has the 3 position selector switch. This is one of the major reasons they developed the POPC rail system.
Only thing is, most other imports are even more money, and even those that are less like the wASR10 and Zastava M70 aren't so by a whole lot these days. Welcome to inflation and a failing economy.
@@omardevonlittle3817 One area you are wrong is on the gassing. The Jack and Beryl use the same system. For what its worth, I own 3 Beryls compared with 2 WBPs.
@@misha5670 interesting. Everyone i know with a jack has suggested a kns... i have both Beryls. Maybe the extra 2 inches of the 5.56 barrel makes it feel less punchy
@Misha I will remind you that Russia is not Soviet Union anymore and manufacurers must acquire license on the patent. Hope someday Russia will enforce their law and kidnap law violators to trial in Russia according to their law, just as USA does. 👌
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I love my mini Jack, WBP makes a great AK. I hope they can continue to import more rifles and get the price down. I got my mini Jack for 650 and now they’re about 200 more.
Currently, the WBP Jack 7,62x39 Polymer tactical with picatinny rail on the upper handguard and polymer magazine costs 4000 PLN in Poland, which is around 950 USD. Looking for one to buy.
@@ProgramistaNaBudowie Classic Firearms and Atlantic Firearms has some for sale
Shot mine over the weekend, it's a AKM and it goes bang. Only mod was adding a Polish bakelite grip. Fantastic gun.
Man take your time I love your videos.
Notes about my beryl 7.62. 100% bone stock no modifications
It's very soft shooting compared to most other stamped 16in guns. The only stamped receiver 16inch gun that shoots softer is my 107fr and that's probably because of the 74 style muzzle brake. The original polish FCG was gritty out of the box but smoothed out very nicely and is now probably one of my favorite AK fire control groups. I'd literally pay money for another one to put into one of my other AKs.
The rivets are basically as perfect as AK rivets can get. Even the inside heads of the short trunnion rivets are perfectly formed.
The paint finish is pretty poor in my opinion. Right out of the blue bag that they come in, there was moisture pooled up on the receiver and I was able to wipe off two spots of the paint finish leaving a black smudge on my thumb. The finish itself was applied inconsistently and is quite thin in some places. One spot in front of the magwell even has some sort of crud stuck under the finish leaving it feeling gritty to the touch. The laser engraving is shallow and feels cheap compared to proper roll marks. It's a poor finish especially when compared to other painted AKs like my sa-85 or even my saiga and 107fr. I've honestly had a postban maadi with nicer finish.
Some general fit and finish issues inside the receiver where the trunnion and rails aren't lined up perfectly leading to some ugly deformation as the parts break themselves in. And there is a small amount of metal deformation inside the bolt lug groove of the carrier where the bolts locking lug seems to be harder then the carrier and causing the carrier to mushroom slightly.
None of these issues affect the function or durability of the rifle just some general fit and finish issues I've ran into when inspecting the rifle. All in all it's a well built rifle that's extremely nice to shoot but with a general fit and finish that falls below what I expected for it's price point. I feel that unless you really care about it's low production numbers and it's perceived exclusivity, you're probably better off with one of the WBP guns.
I just wanted to say I really respect your short review here. It is objective, and while you point out some flaws, you seem to accurately judge their importance. Honestly? I'd encourage you to do your own video review.
@@misha5670 I appreciate that, but I already posted something similar to this on the files and was ripped to shreds by fan boys. I was going to just let it go, shoot the rifle and enjoy it. But since you posted your video I thought I'd add my two cents in one last time.
@@josephthomas8318 Don't worry, those fan boys? They just, simply wrong. I love love love the Beryl series but, they aren't perfection. Only the Borg are t hat ;p
Glad I waited on the Fox. The Jack seems like the way to go! Nice videos as always, Misha. Keep up the great work. Always very helpful, informative and enjoyable.
Wbp make great stuff. Considering Poland is a nato country we should be seeing them imported for as long as wbp are willing.
I bought one and I like it better than I thought I would. They are awesome. Thanks for the review.
Updates?
Just ordered a Jack this morning through Atlantic. It has the red sunburst furniture, and it's one of the most beautiful guns I've ever seen!
How are you liking it? I just ordered the same model
@@Horvath0819 I LOVE the rifle, but I haven't shot it yet. Probably will later this year when I find a place to shoot.
@@Vladpryde sweet I got mine for 1199 from Atlantic. Going to see how I like it compared to my Zastava M70
@@Horvath0819 shot it yet? Still torn between those two
@@carter5103 yes and the WBP is a beautiful gun. Definitely worth the money
Not sure if it was intentional or not, but the volume difference between your talking portions and the shooting portions is much better now.
Older videos basically blow your speakers when going to the range footage.
Great video, as always.
That was a signature characteristic of his videos lol
Nope, not intentional....either way. When its me doing the videos like with this one, i literally have no way to adjust the volume for anything. So it just kind of is what it is lol.
Glocks are boring to me but I depend on them, if you say the jack is boring then I'm getting one. I prefer certainty over flashy and sometimes I'm happy saying yeah it's just a Glock or a polish AK but it just works 👍
I also own a 15 year old Tacoma, it's slow and it's boring but it works
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Glad to have you back! Its deffinately good to take a break sometimes we will all be here when you get back:)
Educational as always. Thanks!
Good to see ya Mish always good to recharge
I like that Jack. The flash hider and wood is a cool combination. And, yes, that flash hider works great.
Hi Misha - Beryl is a nice rifle and has great history serving Polish soldiers in Afghanistan in 2004. Also Beryl rifles are currently serving as one of many weapons deployed by Polish border security on Polish/Ukraine border by (Military and Police). However WBP has seen action and has been in military use in Africa and Asia by local military’s there. Both are phenomenal - I have the lynx and it is my favorite rifle.
i got lucky and have a beryl in 556 and x39. great quality. took alot of time waiting by computer for them to come in. I know arms of America said the last batch was delayed because of fulfilling a military contract but they finally showed up and were gone in 8 min. I was lucky and I believe and maybe Miaha you can elaborate, but with the Russia Ukraine ordeal starting it may be a long while before they come back in stock. With all that's going on I think they will be busy with other issues in that part of the world. Hope ya do a video on the Hellion. I have one on back order to add to the bullpup collection. thanks and great content as always.
The Polish and Ukrainian government both talk a big game, but I think there are reasons as to why the shelling of Donetsk and Lugansk stopped immediately following the arrival of Russian peacekeepers. I don't think it'll be too long before the dust settles (and I'm also of the opinion that the Poles weren't that actually committed anyway). Plus the Ukrainians have their own (somewhat bizarre) arms industry in full swing now, they aren't so much in need of outside help as far as conventional small arms go, to their credit, in just a few years. I wonder how much of the time "delayed due to military contracts" is just these companies sending the message of "this is a side hustle we don't care about that much" or possibly at times delays specifically meant only to increase demand and increase prices.
@@radical026 hmmmmm idk man I’m not so sure the dust is very settled
Still waiting for them to be restock… 😭🥜😡🫥. Like Cartman from South Park, my 🥜 is dry from all this waiting
Cool, thanks for posting that. Coincidentally, I’m picking mine up today!!! 👏🙌 - California, so had to wait 10’days, it’s got a silly fin on the grip, but it will be in my living arms later today.
How is your Gun treating you? I’m trying to get my first ak and was considering this or the berly. The m90 is another choice, but I had seen that it has gas issue.
@@letsgetit90 I’m really liking it. I did a Tac Rifle course with it a couple of weeks ago (all the other students had AR’s) and it did great! I ran it with a Primary Arms 2X prism scope (love the adjustable diopter) and I was getting very nice groups and ringing steel out to 200 yards, no problem. I have a few AK’s & this one is my favorite. Also, due to the stupid Fin we have to run on the grip in CA, it’s really nice having the safety in the right.
@@donaldcox6090 - if you don’t mind me asking, how much did the gun cost you? If the gun get restock on Atlantic Firearms than I’m going to buy it and become in debt 💸 I can’t find the dam gun in California and on the website beside Atlantic
@@letsgetit90 it was $1,299, plus the $49 fin to make it CA legal. The fin is not (IMO) a nice one, and I replaced with a Kydex wrap. I think you’ll like the rifle. My front sight is only slightly canted, the finish is great, all the rivets look solid, the trigger is very nice. At about 500 rounds, I’ve no issues. Accuracy has been just fine. It’s probably the best AKM clone available. By the way, with a good thumb rest, the fin is not really an issue. Safety is on that side, so it’s way better than an AR with a fin.
Thanks for sharing this.
GOT ONE AND LOVE IT
HE'S GOT THE JACK!!
AC⚡DC
I sure miss the muzzle brake and bayonet lug on my old sar-1 (99).So I might like to get another one ,even at 67.My whole life has been guns ,since I was old enough to buy them .I love your videos !
How do you like it so far ?
Love WBP
A very happy Misha in thumbnail :)
Thank you. Great video .
Great to see the video. For some reason, probably my age, I also like the more classic akm. Don't misunderstand I want more "modern" fb radom but just can't quite justify the expense right now. That they are relatively unobtainable, and sell out immediately help curb my impulse to go into further debt. I admit I am wanting that flash hider. Are they available somewhere? Thanks again for the video. I also am somewhat suspicious of the ammo as opposed to weapon or magazine. I have both fb radom and wbp magazines and they run zavasta m90 and m85 and fox flawlessly fully loaded. Different calibers but pretty much always running brunaul mil spec. Never had any issues not even a bobble. About a case through each rifle at this point. Just my experience.
Well this is bizarre. I ordered a Jack about an hour before this video popped up.
I want a 5.56 jack so I can get one of the definitive arms ar mag adapters and have a damn great extra SHTF rifle.
I noticed in a recent batch of 122 GR Tulammo, the quality looked a lot more ruff than usual, inconsistency all over the place with rounds from the same 20 count box. Some with cracked casings, inconsistent primer seating, inconsistent thickness of the case mouth, bullet seating depths all over the place, rim thickness and depths different from round to round, head stamps shallow and difficult to read.
I've noticed for years that tula go bang, Bang, bang, *BANG*, bang. Especially noticeable in low light. the variation in flash and report is dramatic.
BUT, from what you say, it's gotten worse. It seems when the we announced no new import contracts, they turned up the production rate to 11.
One of the Things I Love About You Misha Is You Shoot Your Guns And Really Enjoy Them And Not Have Them Just as Safe Queens🔥 💨🔥💨🔫😊
FB Radom Beryl or WBP Jack?
Which would you choose at today's INSANE prices?
Just ordered the jack 556.
It’s the mag. I had the same issue with that same mag. I thought it was the barnaul ammo but it was the magazine
I honestly don’t know how Atlantic firearms isn’t sold out of them they look tremendous. Can’t wait to get one in the future.
I think they're importing WBP's in large quantities consistently, because their availability has met demand, anyone can just buy one whenever they want. Hopefully FB Radoms Beryls will eventually get to that point.
@@gage5484 Don't hold your breath for that.....sadly.
Cost. Ammo is expensive now. You will see the gun industry start to collapse just cause people can’t afford shit anymore. Food and gas and bills come first
@@calebclark6739 - you seem to forgot how people were dying over toilet papers lol. You would think food and & water would be the top things people would have on their priority list. However, people went nuts over papers
These are some sweet rifles
Quite a gap on the butt stock and rear trunion (for lack of a better term) on the WBP. Performed very well.
The gap is correct, it keeps the stock from cracking due to swelling from moisture.
The jack is where it's at
Thank you.
I hope WBP does a factory underfolder
I'd like that with a milled receiver.
Hopefully WBP does a 5.56 rifle.
Would love to see them do a 5.45 rifle, maybe a Tantal type. But I highly doubt it.
@@AKS-74U *wink*
@@misha5670 Seems like once they added a milled receiver, it would run about the same as an Arsenal milled. Do you think they're comparable in quality?
@@misha5670 this was the best wink hint I've ever had
Thanks Misha! How's Jay? Keep your information flowing!
Truth? I have no idea. He hasn't communicated with me since last October.
That's tough to hear. Pray the solution presents quickly. You two pair well. ONWARD!
He doesn't seem much interested in the gun community right now. He was getting frustrated last Spring and then he just told me he was out. I was inviting him everytime, but after several 'no's or 'I'll think about it"s I just gave up. His life and his decision. Me? while i might get annoyed sometimes, I just couldn't walk away from something and a group of people that mean so much to me. But that's just me though.
can a pick rail for the stock work on the berly? and will a normol AKM handguard work on the bottom part?
Hold on to your 2nd. Last hope for a free world
Thx for the vid. Still drooling
If recent events haven't convinced some people of the 2A's importance? then nothing will, and that's very sad.
What one would you refer to get the wbp jack or wbp fox? Is the jack just the more generic one.?.
WWII MP40 Schmeiser mags -known that soldiers loaded to only 28 for reasons.
Exactly, its just one of those wlong-standing things that's been known for a century. Typically, i load 20-25 rds per mag when we shoot.
Nice! Is there any sort of bolt hangup on the hammer, as with some of the older Tapco G2s?
Any AK design can do this when slowly cycling by hand. It should not be happening during firing though. Personally? mine does not do it but that's not to say the next Jack might not hang up a little bit on the hammer. Usually after a couple thousand rounds, things smooth out to the point it is less likely too.
Hi Misha,
What muzzle brake did you put onto that? I've been trying to look for it.
Thanks!
Which one is better the fox or Jack ?
I have been considering the Jack but also the Zastava ZPAP,. I like the bulged trunnion on the ZPAP but don't like the fact that their handguards are an odd size so they are not easy to replace with other after-market options. I have an Arsenal SLR-101s which I love but it is a milled receiver and so have not been able to take advantage of some of the after-market stock options and am afraid I will have the same issues with the ZPAP, but I have heard lots of great things about the ZPAP and supposedly the bulged trunnion will provide for improved longevity. I am curious about what others think about the two different rifles and pros/cons of each?
I'd go with the jack. It''s a high quality AKM with a lot of aftermarket support. However the Zastava rifles also have aftermarket support now just not as much
@@booba8930 - I brought the m90 because I waited two years for the jack and Beryl. Shot it once so far and enjoyed it besides the breaking of the magazines. I live in California so the only magazine that I was able to frf is the WBP. WBP produces FB mags at their factory. The Jack is available right now but I Dont think I want to spend 1600 dollars one a gun that I feel isn't that much better than my heavy 9 pounds m90. The recoil is a solid, and the weight isn't a burden as I had thought. I mean, people have been harping about the WBp chrome barrel. Sure, I feel like the Polish gun industry, especially FB and WBP, produces top-quality guns, but most folks won't probably outshoot their weapons. You are right about the after-market parts with the Jack and AKM.
@@letsgetit90 My Jack cost 1200 and feels good in my hands in my opinion. Although me personality I think I got one of their lower quality guns as the sights are a bit canted which is rare for WBP AFAIK. Still feels well built. Thank you for the effort in your reply though. Glad you enjoy your M90.
@@booba8930 - I had heard almost great stories about the Jack and it's super light . It's funny because one of the common problems that i was afraid about purchasing the m90 was the canted sights lol. If I didn't get the m90, I'd have drop that money in a heartbeat to get the Jack.
I'm intrested in the 5.56 WBP Jack rifle. I'm having problems finding the twist rate on this rifle. Would you know the twist rate on the 5.56 Jack rifle? Thank you
Here soon, we'll publish a review of that one + compare it with something. Probably either the Beryl or Arsenal's SAM5? or maybe Zastava's M90? Wish there was time to shoot all back-to-back but...
WBP in its "5.56 Jack and Mini Jack rifle user manual" says twist rate is 228mm which equals to 9 inch (to be precise: 228/25.4=8.976377952755906 inch)
the malfunction in the beryl really is odd. seems like it would be a mag or ammo problem but with 2 different mags i don't know. did you use the same mags loaded to the same round count and ammo type in the fox?? interesting if others came across that with there rifles. thanks.
That’s a problem with your magazine spring being soft inside those mags.
Love my zastavas! How to these compare? Looking into a 223 variant.ty
Are they reliable? If anyone knows?
Is this a stamped or milled reciever?
It’s a stamped receiver
Ironically I've had failure to feed issues like that with my WBP Fox, but never with my m762 Beryl. Maybe just bad luck of the polish.
Totally a 'feeling' on my part, but it just didn't seem like a firearm issue. At least not directly. I'm actually most suspicious of the RAS ammo.
What flash hider is this on the Jack?
why is there a small gap between the buttstock and reciever?..kind of drives me crazy
That is purposely done so wood doesn't swell and crack due too moisture.
@@SlickSlack4pac dry the wood first..I'd never buy onelike that..there has been rifles many years old with no problems at all..
@@TedIntessimone the 1mm gap at trunnion and buttstock was spec for laminate wood. Maybe you should contact the Izhevsk Factory in Russia and give them the proper advice on how to build the AKM.
Akm right, so I could put a romy dong (if I can’t find a polish) and cheese grater on correct?
You should do a Polish Archer vs 223S M1 video
I got the Jack Jack Jack Jack Jack Jack Jack I got the Jack
Love my wpb AK pistol!
Just don’t like the flash hider, needs a sugar scoop!
That was what it shipped with. Had the AKML Polish parts around, so felt like using them. Didn't take the bipod with us this time though.
WBP Jack or new zpap?
WBP is a lot nicer than Zastava
Have both you can’t go wrong with either
Does it appear over gassed to anyone else? Like even over gassed for an ak?
Not to me, and i was the one firing it.
Bravo
How long does an Ak and Ar15 usually last?
Longer than you or I will shoot them :)
One thing that bugs me is that the "Classic" Jack has a side rail, while the "Modern" Beryl lacks a side rail.
The Jack has it because realistically any AK import to the USA has to have some kind of an optics mount. Its just one of those market demand things. The Beryl lacks it because on the military version there isn't room for it. Where the side rail would go, it has the 3 position selector switch. This is one of the major reasons they developed the POPC rail system.
Should've loaded up a different mag asap.
I did, had a total of 6 mags out that day: steel, WBP poly, & Magpul PMag
Pluto. 2/22/22
Ya' know it!
Bought a wbp polish mag feels like a cheap pos mag.
How something functions should matter more than how it feels.
🙌💪🤙🇺🇸
These are nice but for $1300 dollars? Am I the only one that thinks that price is crazy?
Only thing is, most other imports are even more money, and even those that are less like the wASR10 and Zastava M70 aren't so by a whole lot these days. Welcome to inflation and a failing economy.
I paid 1300 for a milled arsenal sam7 ak back in 2017. Now the same gun is close to 2k
Sign of the times, get it while you can. It’s not going to get any better soon.
@@arujei1 same here, paid $1245 for my SAM7 in 2016. Great investment!
Is it legal for a blind dude like this to shoot a rifle...?? Even if it's legal it certainly isn't safe.
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4th
No, its not better.
Cool, why?
@@misha5670 more pedigree. Better gassed. Less available... Ill just stick with the real military rifle. Beryl for me. Fox for thee. 🍻
@@omardevonlittle3817 One area you are wrong is on the gassing. The Jack and Beryl use the same system. For what its worth, I own 3 Beryls compared with 2 WBPs.
@@misha5670 interesting. Everyone i know with a jack has suggested a kns... i have both Beryls. Maybe the extra 2 inches of the 5.56 barrel makes it feel less punchy
Kinda hilarious that people will pay this much money for a commercial copy of a outdated platform,go figure great videos tho!
Hey, people have been buying the Springfield M1A for over 40 years *shrug*.
How is this platform outdated? What are militarys around the world still using?
Another unlicensed illegal copy.
Lmao what are you talking about
Remind me again what the Tu-4 was?
@Misha I will remind you that Russia is not Soviet Union anymore and manufacurers must acquire license on the patent. Hope someday Russia will enforce their law and kidnap law violators to trial in Russia according to their law, just as USA does. 👌
@Razgriz Surget did polish manufacturer paid their license fees to Russia? Nop. So it's an unlicensed illegal copy.
Illegal you say.... hmmm I want one more now.